It was epic. The crowd and confusion just made this over the top crazy. I still remember it to this day. I loved it.
@dq36662 жыл бұрын
A very special Vuelta for me, and glorious to have seen Chris win, especially when he dropped Nibali and finished just behind Elissonde on the Angliru to secure the GC. 🙏🏼
@westerling8436 Жыл бұрын
on the juice
@exigency22313 ай бұрын
@@westerling8436 and also way way older. Definitely still impressive, even if it isn't legitimate
@lesflynn44552 жыл бұрын
I remember watching it in the wee hours of the morning here in Australia, as these races usually are. It was absolutely brilliant. Horner was a smart racer.
@jamesandrews11303 жыл бұрын
Chris is one of the great commentary guysmow. The Butterfly Effect.
@ryanmarshall80304 жыл бұрын
Has anyone thought of giving the man atop the car a paintball gun for crowd control. Will there be collateral damage? Yes. Of course there will be, but I believe the price is justifiable for the safety of the athletes.
@michaelnice933 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of a electric cattle prod.
@andredeketeleastutecomplex3 жыл бұрын
I prefer a nuke, to destroy these comments. All you need is those fences set up and some stewards.
@mkbbk77223 жыл бұрын
99% time nothing happens. Uphill nothin really bad can happen anyway. Apart from that: The riders love the crowds. Imagine the feeling, you are going all out to win a grand tour up this hill against super strong opponents. You get this tunnel feeling through the crowds. It is incredibly motivating.
@bobbyv3843 жыл бұрын
Hahah! The comments here are soooo funny! Horner's never been involved in any doping scandals and was always known as a great climber even in his later pro years. He was well respected in the pros but wasn't a real GC contender because he was more of a climbing domestique for his teams. What's unique about Horner is he was one of those rare riders that grimaced in the form of a smile. So it always looked like he was smiling from ear to ear when he was suffering like a dog on the mountain. Nevertheless this performance was one of the most epic rides in the history of professional cycling. Some still swear he was doped up to the gills but as with unusual feats there will always be skeptics. Eventually there will be another 40+ year old rider to win a Grand Tour with great climbing and he will be accused of doping too.
@samradcliff88173 жыл бұрын
He was never anywhere near being a gc rider than suddenly at the age of 42 he does it + he always backed lance so it does seem a bit suspicious to say the least
@samradcliff88173 жыл бұрын
@t nonyabusiness ye ik it’s j a bit disappointing
@ALSNewsNow2 жыл бұрын
He has never exactly denied it. Watch his other videos his stance is suspicious
@daleanthony4343 Жыл бұрын
That was his biggest performance highlight 👍
@orangeorphan Жыл бұрын
Yeah I think based on the fact that he talks around it but never comes out and denies it makes me think he did dope, but so did everyone else at the time. 🤷♂️
@kusalperera88393 жыл бұрын
Its an epic climb by Horner. He is a legend without a doubt
@bradford_shaun_murray10 ай бұрын
7:55 ...nice move by Horner to use the breakaway he caught here to put a gap on Nabali - he scoots past them on the side, and then the breakaway group kind of psychologically as well as physically blocked a fading Nibali from Horner, who then put a big gap on to the finish. Seems like that was the final move that won him the Vuelta on this crazy climb.
@johnmorrison71713 жыл бұрын
After 2 months of racing on empty roads this was stressing me out!!
@roebbiej3 жыл бұрын
@Luka Cherriman exactly. Irritating inconsiderate fans. Just one meter back, that's all it takes to show some respect.
@jesselobo32133 жыл бұрын
Most epic stage I ever got to watch live, it was thrilling. Kudos to Mr. Chris Horner.
@zealman7910 жыл бұрын
I threw up just watching that...23%...be easier to climb with a pick axe
@dougfitch36497 жыл бұрын
God I hate when the crowd blocks the road. I swung at them with my hands before. There were times when they'd purposefully close even the tiniest gap between me and the hometown boys (especially in Colombia.) Moto cops would swerve to open up a gap which was very cool of them to do.
@TheNotSoFakeNews3 жыл бұрын
Are you the dude from the wheaties box?
@dougfitch36493 жыл бұрын
Yup! Thats me. How did u notice?
@TheNotSoFakeNews3 жыл бұрын
@@dougfitch3649 I love wheaties. Edit: also love cycling!
@stevenqirkle3 жыл бұрын
It kind of looks like you’re trying to throw a punch on the wheaties box
@dougfitch36493 жыл бұрын
@@stevenqirkle Haha! You’re right. They put make up on my legs since it was February and I was super pasty white!
@slyviangai34202 жыл бұрын
1:57 it's really sad to see one of the best domestics and fighter Chris Anker passed away a month ago. RIP
@eurobubble70685 жыл бұрын
the crazy thing was that horner even looked like benjamin button.
@Abnsdllnnlosnfd7 жыл бұрын
0:17 Come on! 1%! I even ride that on the big ring!
@randalh4093 жыл бұрын
It was 19 %
@StephanieHughesDesign10 жыл бұрын
With LeMond, Horner may go down as the best American cyclist since. What a great tenacious victory. It is amazing, that Horner has not been given the respect in the US for this tremendous victory. The climb is epic.
@TwentyTwenty908 жыл бұрын
+Stephanie Hughes He hasn't been given the respect because something is clearly not right. Horner's ABP values, which he released himself, flagged up some serious issues. See here: www.outsideonline.com/1919196/chris-horners-bio-passport-problem
@erikgruenwedel8 жыл бұрын
So why hasn't Horner tested positive even once in his career? Sure, Armstrong's positive was allegedly covered up, but there was plenty of third-party, first-hand knowledge Lance doped. I have never heard of one person claiming s/he saw Horner dope.
@TwentyTwenty908 жыл бұрын
So you're saying that if you do not test positive you're not a doper? Armstrong fan logic.
@erikgruenwedel8 жыл бұрын
+Thomas W Hardly an Armstrong fan. You missed my point: Where are the first-hand accounts from people who saw Horner doping? Armstrong tried to intimidate all naysayers, including those with direct knowledge. Where are those people regarding Horner?
@TwentyTwenty908 жыл бұрын
There aren't many forthcoming accounts, but the fact his blood values increased in volume during a GT speaks for itself.
@johnnycab89863 жыл бұрын
NIbali kept attacking and Horner played turtle and the hare, he never responded and just kept a steady pace, he also looked about 10 lbs lighter than Nibbles. Nibali burned himself out. All these people talking about doping probably never talk shit about Valverde...
@rustytoler48911 жыл бұрын
Best duel ever . Two champions - Chris earned the win ; Nivolli the respect
@rcg95733 жыл бұрын
Horner = doping cheater
@westerling8436 Жыл бұрын
DOPEDY DOPE
@mondo8512 жыл бұрын
The last American grand tour winner. It was an epic stage!
@richmartin14273 ай бұрын
Until Sepp Kuss won this race in 2023
@archielabb9 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Horner close to 40 during this ride? Wow, that must be some great training for this climb. He trained so hard he turned back the clock.
@DiegoRuiz19918 жыл бұрын
Doping can do wonders!
@treygray28177 жыл бұрын
archielabb he was a few weeks shy of his 42nd birthday :-)
@alisnwopy48217 жыл бұрын
archielabb 41
@zero5uk3 жыл бұрын
The most farcical winner of any grand tour.
@charliedillon14003 жыл бұрын
@@zero5uk Honorable mention goes to Juan Jose Cobo.
@bf.2583 жыл бұрын
Nice! And now he is the boss at Redbull F1!
@azizselimsimsek39833 жыл бұрын
no, they are different people guy in redbull is christian horner
@calebd46693 жыл бұрын
@@azizselimsimsek3983 It’s a joke
@andredeketeleastutecomplex3 жыл бұрын
Jeez lol
@andredeketeleastutecomplex3 жыл бұрын
No no, he became Christina Horner on twitter, as 'the girl with the beard and moustache'. Fact!
@Dystopia20207 жыл бұрын
Just far too difficult to believe he could have done that riding clean.
@thunderpooch6 жыл бұрын
He and all the riders should have their heads checked if they rode that clean. 23%, forget about it, get me on the gear.
@bobbyv3843 жыл бұрын
I know! Especially laughing and smiling all the way up the mountain. Did you see the one shot of him on his cell phone going by Nibali?
@treygray28172 жыл бұрын
Nobody in the top 20 is clean
@MorningCarnival3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable, literally unbelievable.
@cesarfragoso12485 жыл бұрын
Horner es inmortal todos creyeron que no podía lograrlo y lo hizo venció alos favoritos que gran vuelta 🚵🚵🚵🚵🚵🚵🚵🚵🏆🏆🏆
@TheBonsaiZone3 жыл бұрын
Epic, go Chris!
@151bar1519 жыл бұрын
sorry Chris, but you can't win grand tour when you are 41 years old without doping
@treygray28177 жыл бұрын
151bar151 you can't win a granf tour at any age without doping
@matejburian31914 жыл бұрын
@@treygray2817 You can't win a grand tour at any age
@treygray28174 жыл бұрын
@@matejburian3191 I was outdone!
@matejburian31914 жыл бұрын
@@treygray2817 and i just tried to be funny, we both made mistake
@dmmaggi3 жыл бұрын
Horner would have got more respect for his Vuelta win if he hadn't used 48cm bars.
@pucuk16683 жыл бұрын
what's wrong with it ?
@dmmaggi3 жыл бұрын
@@pucuk1668 A joke....it was a joke.
@seanreilly66183 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they were useful here with those steep pinches.
@AComan-ch5wt3 жыл бұрын
And doping but wouldnt be able to win then haha..
@richskorczewski30813 жыл бұрын
How wide were those handlebars back then 450mm? It’s crazy how much bikes have changed in just 8-10 years.
@tonycrabtree34163 жыл бұрын
Standard 44,42,40 that you see now.
@jeffbrower87732 жыл бұрын
Elissonde's looked like 45+ cm to me
@BoxCarBoy124 жыл бұрын
Doping or not, Horner is my hero. How many cheeseburger addicts can claim that they're one of the top climbers in the world, if not the winner of a freakin' Grand Tour? He's the cycling spirit animal for fat kids like me!
@whatwelearned3 жыл бұрын
He's a cheating bitch
@geg_otmopo33 жыл бұрын
@@whatwelearned I think I saw same comment from you under vids with Armstrong. Is this your profession?
@whatwelearned3 жыл бұрын
@@geg_otmopo3 Quite possibly; they're both cheaters (although Lance is obviously an incredible turd)
@andredeketeleastutecomplex3 жыл бұрын
Lemond ate burgers too, and won the TDF.
@rcg95733 жыл бұрын
Yeah, low IQ morons tend to idolize cheats like Horner. 😆
@messi9991 Жыл бұрын
Never get how a 41-year old could win a grand tour.
@mario-yg8mx4 жыл бұрын
Bend, Oregon baby! yeah ..
@rcg95733 жыл бұрын
Doping cheater baby
@schattelux4827 Жыл бұрын
knuckleheads 🦋
@Mgoblagulkablong2 жыл бұрын
Huge respect for Nibali for trying on the climb instead of using time bonus to win. True honour.
@treygray28172 жыл бұрын
Breakaway took the time bonuses.
@Mgoblagulkablong2 жыл бұрын
@@treygray2817 there was only 1 breakaway rider left in front, they caught all the others, Chris Horner explained himself he would have lost if Nibali outsprinted him at the line, Chris Horner has a great analysis video of this stage on his channel
@treygray28172 жыл бұрын
@@Mgoblagulkablong Ah, didn’t realize that. Poor tactics by Nibali in that case
@brianluck842 жыл бұрын
The fact that the riders are not punching the fans in the face is beyond me. I get they are excited but come one give the athletes their space to ride. Keep your hands off them and get out of their face.
@WegrennerX2 жыл бұрын
Imagine doped nibali in his 30ties not dropping a 41 year old guy. 🤣
@Lundahlium7 жыл бұрын
HISTORICAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Wilbursson11 ай бұрын
After the col du granon in 22 JV looked like hed eaten 5 handfuls of $4*7. And here this man 41 or not standing on the pedals and doing pure anerobic cadience the entire way looking like the t1000 with a smile is just absurd. From GT champion to complete obscurity, what an aweful time for cycling.
@LuisHernandez-cg3fb10 жыл бұрын
Horner should've gotten the interview with Oprah, not that other guy.
@sandrost42433 жыл бұрын
Horner doped too.
@SuperVo2max3 жыл бұрын
that's my boy Chris Horner! #legend
@rcg95733 жыл бұрын
Dope city 😆
@andrewsandoz8005 Жыл бұрын
Truly an epic stage. Great to watch 41 year old American Chris Horner pedal his way to victory! Curious as to what kind of gearing Mr. Horner chose for this days festivities?
@mattfoley60822 жыл бұрын
8:00 Moment Horner won. He talks about it on his youtube channel.
@cliffcox76433 жыл бұрын
what a mob scene.. I mean it's great for the viewers and fans, but for the riders, .....
@beverleylumb80483 жыл бұрын
How they can ride up 23 percent is beyond me
@alanrobinson78913 жыл бұрын
With the amount of doping they do I'm not surprised they can ride up it
@andrewmurray55422 жыл бұрын
I've ridden this climb. It's bloody hard. In places, you'd be faster walking. I came to a grinding halt near the top and sat there trying to decide what to do; it's almost impossible to get going again on those gradients. As i sat there another rider came past and indicated that i was actually near the top and it got easier. That got me going and i was able to finish the climb.
@jlg3315 Жыл бұрын
way to go Chris.
@williammarshall42773 жыл бұрын
Horner is terribly underrated. He is America’s all time best road cyclist hands down. Unfortunately, much of his success came after Armstrong’s stunk up the sport and many Americans turned away from cycling.
@alanrobinson78913 жыл бұрын
I'd have thought LeMond would be americas greatest road cyclist.
@akadoiphin267 Жыл бұрын
@@alanrobinson7891 Horner was a domestique most of his career, this was one of 2 grand tours he was trusted as the leader and he wasn’t even the leader in this.
@alanrobinson7891 Жыл бұрын
@@akadoiphin267 contradicting yourself there. Was he trusted as the leader, or was he not the leader. Can't be both
@akadoiphin267 Жыл бұрын
@@alanrobinson7891 I’d call him independent because his race director did not trust him in the Vuelta
@deanwelsh25483 жыл бұрын
Awesome ride Chris! Go butterfly effect!
@MarkKanaster-ev6pq Жыл бұрын
Epo epo epo or blood whatever got to love it butterfly
@derrickzoolander537826 күн бұрын
Go Horner! I’m slightly biased that’s my last name! 😂
@mikedittsche3 ай бұрын
The fans getting in the way are absolute knuckleheads.
@MarkKanaster-ev6pq Жыл бұрын
Niblet niblet niblet you go
@eljamo933 жыл бұрын
Wow, Horner was smiling towards the end. I think people have to take into consideration how much better Horner's gearing was compared to his peers. I think that's what won him this race, not doping
@jeffbrower87733 жыл бұрын
@eljamo93, it's not gearing, it's Horner's constant standing @ cadence 60 to 70, with 42+ cm wide handlebars for increased leverage. Evidently he had perfected this technique over the previous 5 years or so, and got to the point where he could push a bigger gear for a longer time on steep grades. Compare with Nibali and Elissonde sitting most of the time, at much higher cadence
@eljamo933 жыл бұрын
@@jeffbrower8773 I appreciate your comment.
@treygray28172 жыл бұрын
@@jeffbrower8773 And they say spinners are winners. I say it's rider specific. Pantani spun a low cadence.
@jeffbrower87732 жыл бұрын
@@treygray2817 yes agree. A rider starts having success a certain way -- or stumbles into it by accident like Horner did with wide bars -- and they go with that and train hard over time. Very rider specific
@lesflynn44552 жыл бұрын
@@jeffbrower8773 Horner always looked like he was smiling on big climbs, but it was actually a grimace.
@bobstevens90403 жыл бұрын
Horner won nothing before or after this dubious Vuelta victory. Definitely suspected of doping. Juan Jose Cobo was stripped of his 2011 Vuelta victory retrospectively for doping. How Horner is still dining out on this one is beyond me
@gustavosalvini18273 жыл бұрын
It’s simple: Horner wasn’t doping
@abcD-wf9yr3 жыл бұрын
@@gustavosalvini1827 he most likely was, going after the Wikipedia page on him there were things on his blood pass which were suspects and for a few weeks the drug testers could not find him or something like that
@norsangkelsang793910 жыл бұрын
Brutal...
@100milesandrunnin3 жыл бұрын
That was a dope as climb
@endrizefi9566Ай бұрын
Horner with motor bike like amstrong
@kevinmejia26944 жыл бұрын
Armstrong le dio un poquito De aliento y con ESO le aguanto
@paulolsen68706 жыл бұрын
It's obviously the blue tape.
@winstoncat6785 Жыл бұрын
A car, 20 seconds ahead of the first rider. with a flame thrower.
@farcydebop79823 жыл бұрын
Amstrong taught him well.
@mgr7412 жыл бұрын
Classic!
@crosca827 жыл бұрын
Let them dope, who cares !!!
@thunderpooch6 жыл бұрын
That's stupid. I say test them and just know that they're still going to micro dope. If they dope and keep themselves within healthy limits, I'm all for it. It levels the playing field and still keeps them relatively safe.
@5ohJ5 жыл бұрын
Anonymous DueToFascists riders who don’t dope are losers
@AngelGonzalez-hc4zw3 жыл бұрын
This is insanity period!!
@ReshiramZekrom_5 жыл бұрын
DOPED!
@user-sl8gt3bu1r11 ай бұрын
If everyone’s doping then it’s level playing field. So why all the Horner trolls be cryin?😢
@Attamatic8 жыл бұрын
now look me in the eye and tell me cycling is clean....They are all doped.still even to this day....including Nibali
@thunderpooch6 жыл бұрын
So. The tests do exactly what they're intended to do. It keeps their levels within safe limits and allows them to dope a bit to level the playing filed.
@sandrost42433 жыл бұрын
@@thunderpooch we are all dumber for reading your post.
@thunderpooch3 жыл бұрын
@@sandrost4243 The tests at their very best can reduce unhealthy abuse. But you're a quack if you think they'll ever prevent micro dosing. Sorry. "We" lol, you and who else? Rest assured, you're probably not that much dumber. It's hard to bottom out more than once.
@saracen8883 жыл бұрын
Chaos
@deramassageoscar25586 жыл бұрын
Electric power ?
@xcapciuk22835 жыл бұрын
Surely
@erikvanlaar81107 жыл бұрын
Horner is clean, his bike is not.
@gabrielfonseca34135 жыл бұрын
Erik van Laar pics or you’re just talking shit
@jorgdirbach94 Жыл бұрын
Yes, very clear that he used mechanical doping. He climbed up the steepest part and his bike did not move horizontally. Very unusual!
@Dennis-DK2 Жыл бұрын
you spelled "on drugs" wrong
@wombatfeeder999 Жыл бұрын
juiced to the gils
@deadendfriends19753 жыл бұрын
Bear spray
@michaelnice933 жыл бұрын
If all the riders are doping then the sport is more fair, but if the authorities can bust on guy or one team and not another that’s not fair. I doubt all the riders dope. So it’s not fair. It’s way less fun to watch a race that’s not fair. And all those guys on the road when the racers are trying to pass each other. I would like under cover cyclists on electric bikes with cattle prods chasing the fans back and fined for those who don’t comply. Just have some deputized traffic cops and officials walking the sides of the road. Screw motorcycle cameras. A fix for that may be have every cyclist with a go pro or two or three on their bikes. They can probably make the bikes so light that they will still be the same weight with the cameras. Then the results for each day wouldn’t be known till later when all the footage was edited. But they could get some good commentators and boost the production value. I just don’t see the draw for the sport of cycling. Those fans suck. The motorcycles suck. The doping sucks. The camera work and commentary usually suck. I am way more interested in watching or participating in low key races. Though I do imagine from a fan’s perspective riding up the mountain with some liquor and getting drunk and yelling with all the other guys, then coasting down the hill after the race goes by would be a fun day.
@cliffcox76433 жыл бұрын
Covid, where are you when we need you up there?!?!?!
@anderskrgaard165310 жыл бұрын
embarrassing on so many levels! A shame on the sport that Horner got a new contract after this - Hopefully he will quit after this year!
@osimnod3 жыл бұрын
Sour grapes! Tell us about Bjarne Riis, then. Good grief, Horner was 41 years old!
@robj16374 ай бұрын
Our dope boy Chris Dopy Hormer.
@herve1601813 жыл бұрын
Hurt locker.
@fhowland Жыл бұрын
As usual too many motorcycles in the way!!!
@LEX__FERNANDEZ3 жыл бұрын
Lance le llevo unas "aspirinas" a horner para ganar está vuelta
@akadoiphin267 Жыл бұрын
or maybe he’s just 10kg lighter than Nibali and can push his limit at 510 watts, plus this was phi’s 3rd race of the year
10 жыл бұрын
We as old cyclists enjoy this great performance on the page where we meet: facebook.com/groups/wielrennenANEKDOTES
@robro9113 жыл бұрын
Amazing ! yet another American rider with "otherworldly" talents, just how did they do it ? I think we all know the answer to that now !!
@GeorgeCrosley3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, only Americans are implicated in doping! You must not follow the sport much.
@albyc8810 жыл бұрын
Doping, doping, doping...
@ltlarrow110 жыл бұрын
one might wonder how someone (Niboli) becomes so dominant just 11 months later
@giuliomavuli13210 жыл бұрын
Michael Strelka In the same year nibali won the giro d'italia, if there is a doper in this race isn't Nibali that is a true champion, he has demonstrated his class in all of three big race in the world: the giro, the vuelta and the tour. He is simply one of the best whit contador and froome.
@sabino94710 жыл бұрын
Michael Strelka SEMPLY IDIOT HERE THERE IS A DOPER AND IS HORNER
@Abnsdllnnlosnfd8 жыл бұрын
No just a case of a well balanced vegan diet!
@treygray28177 жыл бұрын
Abnsdllnnlosnfd a vegan diet is beneficial, but you still have to dope to win a GT
@ivanboesky15206 жыл бұрын
Chris Doper Horner.
@rogerdodger92293 жыл бұрын
Horner...really... motor in his bike...
@roadracer15843 жыл бұрын
Dope. Lotsa dope.
@akadoiphin267 Жыл бұрын
he’s an out of the saddle climber and was never involved in any sort of doping, probably why he was a domestique for all those years.
@danhan54403 жыл бұрын
Khán giả ,cổ động viên mất trật tự quá! Đúng là bát nháo, gây nguy hiểm cho VĐV.
@0mym3 жыл бұрын
Testosterone galore!
@ArtEmis55K3 жыл бұрын
Horner obviously doped. He knew that we knew as well - it’s ridiculous
@sirwinston26596 жыл бұрын
Nibali was robbed!
@gabrielfonseca34135 жыл бұрын
Sir Winston really. How ? Do tell
@ibthecat62795 жыл бұрын
You can't rob someone in cycling.. (Except for Vino) He dropped Nibali, end of story..
@gustavosalvini18273 жыл бұрын
Nibali was caught coping before 🤡🤡🤡🤡 unlike horner
@francy23053 жыл бұрын
@@gustavosalvini1827 Nibali had never been caught doping. 🤡 Popi popi. Just learn to read before talking.
@reglisse423 жыл бұрын
Horner very weird racer ..I don’t understand this victory
@uberkloden3 жыл бұрын
Chris Horner is a true champion, deal with it. He beat a tired weak field though.....Nibali was wasted.
@reglisse423 жыл бұрын
@@uberkloden maybe if you think so .for me it’s very weird
@akadoiphin267 Жыл бұрын
@@reglisse42 he’s an out of the saddle rider with the by far the freshest legs in the group, only his 3rd race that year. also being an out of the saddle rider gives you better aero and seems to be better all around and plus he’s way lighter than Nibali meaning he’s pushing 510 watts compared to Nibali’s 430, Horner is winning that battle every time on a climb like this.
@rcg95733 жыл бұрын
Won it doped up
@Mark-qg8hm3 жыл бұрын
I thought he won it on dope
@andrewturchan60653 жыл бұрын
Horner has wrong number on his jersey ..... Shouldn't it be "rider # 15" ? His blood levels were ALL OVER .... Just saying ....
@tranjose7 жыл бұрын
Warning to would-be sponsors of cycling - your intended audience is one negative trolling bunch. You'd be wise to spend your money elsewhere!!
@alessiograzzani16093 жыл бұрын
Dopato cris
@HasanSIM149 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@Kanonka283 жыл бұрын
Froome is a master of dopping
@diggsfather3 жыл бұрын
he's dropping with cavendish and the rest of the sprinters so idk how you can claim that
@lonzaball90633 жыл бұрын
This Vuelta was stolen from Nibali and I'm sure that between a few years everything will come out just like Juan Cobo, they just were at the end of their carriers so they had nothing to lose.
@iminc54983 жыл бұрын
Nibali has served a suspension for doping.
@gustavosalvini18273 жыл бұрын
Nibali has been caught doping, unlike Horner
@francy23053 жыл бұрын
@@gustavosalvini1827 Nibali has never been caught doping... What are you saying? Nibali is one of the most important riders for many campaigns against doping in the group. The italians caught doping in that years were Basso, Di Luca, Riccò and Scarponi. And the funny fact is that they all were much better than Nibali before they were caught doping, but then, when they had to stop with it, they came back much weaker than him.