Chris Paul Teaming Up With Wemby | Group Chat | Ringer NBA

The guys react to the San Antonio Spurs' landing of Chris Paul and what that means for not only the Spurs’ roster rebuild, but also the career progression of Victor Wembanyama.
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[@barbarooza8408]

Here's the deal. The 2024 FA class is doo doo. The 2025 FA and draft class is stacked. CP is a one year rental and Stephon Castle gets a year's tutelage at the Chris Paul school of Point Guard. All the players will benefit from this and Paul gets a chance to audition for the league he still has it before he goes to another team. It's win-win. 2025 off-season will be when the Spurs strike. Anybody who suggests the Spurs should cash in now and rush the rebuild is misguided.

[@MrOctober44]

That all sounds nice, but everyone claimed that they were tanking last year for this draft. Now they traded the 8th pick away. They acquired an ancient Chris Paul, who as was pointed out, will miss half of the year being injured. How many seasons of 50-60 losses do you think Wemby is going to put up with?

[@barbarooza8408]

@@MrOctober44 they didn't tank last year, they just sucked. The plan always was to see how the players fit around Wemby first season. 2nd season will be much of the same, with the odd veteran here and there. CP3's value is as much for his mentorship and off-court leadership as his own-court production. Given Wemby has preached patience from the fanbase, I would say he is fine with one more season. He's still only 20!

[@ed8018]

Wemby is so good people forgot there was a reason the Spurs got the number 1 pick to begin with. The Spurs were a bad team. They didn't tank in Wemby's first season. 100% agree next off season is the time to make bold moves. CP will do wonders for Castle's development.

[@toolken835]

@@MrOctober44they got the player they really wanted in the draft, Stephon Castle (if not Sheppard). He gets a year of mentoring from one of the smartest and greatest PGs ever. They still have Keldon Johnson and Devin Vassel. There’s no promise Dillingham will pay off, if he does the trade looks stupid, if not they got 2 firsts for a role player (or he’s out of the league, his size makes him very boom or bust potential). Players will want to play with Wemby, and the spurs are not going to be as bad with CP3 being able to get Wemby good looks, and Castle can at the very least play elite defense.

[@patrickhanlon2325]

Until all the good free agents resign and ask for trades before they even get to free agency. I wouldn't be holding out for fa in the nba these days

[@davidhymel24]

Wosny looking at this from a short-sided perspective. Stocking up picks, by trading a #8 pick in a draft that’s considered one of the worst in years, is a long-term move to acquire assets for potential future trades. Not to mention they have ATL’s unprotected 1st round pick in addition to their own in a stacked draft class next year. Also hearing SA’s is interested in making a move for Booker if the suns play like shit this year and decide to blow it up. All of these future assets make sense for long term moves in Wemby’s second year

[@MrOctober44]

At this point you're looking at another 50 plus loss season. How many do you think Wemby will put up with?

[@brianchen3992]

@@MrOctober44You can’t be serious right? It’s literally been ONE SEASON. Holy hell casuals man

[@davidhymel24]

@@MrOctober44 it’s a great question, and I’d guess he’d be pissed if they aren’t in the playoffs by year 3. With that being said, the way they finished last year I think they have a good shot at making the play-in this year. Biggest difference for me long term is I feel like Wemby genuinely wants to be in San Antonio. And because of the assets SA has acquired the past few off seasons, at some point they’re gonna cash those in for a player they think will fit with Wemby. Can’t see them just sitting on those assets just to let Wemby walk

[@dylandavis9833]

@@MrOctober44 Wemby is extremely patient, he has stated this multiple times and has talked about how much he trust the FO. He also talks about how much he loves San Antonio (even going out of his own way to say he hates big markets). Wemby grew up a Spurs fan and is a Spur through and through. He's here for a long time

[@ziplockbaggies8707]

Good thing the short sighted Wosny is not the Spurs GM!

[@RafaelCK08]

Wosny again with some terrible takes about the Spurs, nothing new here. Mikal Bridges was traded for 5 fucking 1rst rounds. The spurs are collecting assets, playing chess here, not checkers.

[@MrOctober44]

Lol. The Knicks also massively overpaid for Bridges, Ntm they were trading with a rival with the Nets. That sounds nice to do a painstakingly slow rebuild. Let's see how many 50-60 losses a year type of seasons Wemby will put up with

[@RafaelCK08]

@@MrOctober44 rebuilds are slow. Just look at OKC. The Paul George trade was 5 years ago.

[@patrickcauthorn985]

Totally agree, this take was really bad. Pop and RC methodically planned having the best shot for Wemby. Now they have a generational talent and tons of assets. They have a boat load of cap space next year. Fire them? Bring in new guys after their plan worked? These guys are playing the long game and now Spurs are primed to have a long run at championships. There is plenty of evidence that trying to speed things up doesn't work. It's so ironic to me that everyone pumps up OKC all the time but are so short sighted and can't respect what/how OKC got where they are.

[@MaximusR93]

Wosny complaining about us trading the 8th pick when those picks we picked up will be in Wemby’s 7th and 8th year, Minnesota won’t have Gobert, KAT will be old, and they’ve given up all their picks for the next 8 years. Also, Ant may be off the team, I think his second contract is up in 29(?), good chance they’ll be lottery picks

[@MrOctober44]

@@patrickcauthorn985 Two major problems with the whole slow burn rebuild. How many 50-60 loss seasons do you think Wemby is going to put up with? What makes you believe they're capable of doing a good rebuild? What positive move have they made in the past seven years other then drafting the biggest, most hyped prospect since LeBron?

[@wavedgoblin]

Wos has a terrible take like usual.

[@sqx22]

why would they rush it, so many have rushed it and didn't succeed. Yes, definitely a bad take

[@wavedgoblin]

@@sqx22 we ain’t rushing it but we bringing in someone who can help us build winning habits and help wemby , castle and the rest pick up some tricks of the trade. Cp3 isn’t gonna make us a contender but help maybe regain some of his value and help out the younger players

[@kam_12_]

@@sqx22wemby is not like any other player, he is the One

[@amattchronism]

Wos forgetting about the Dejounte trade. We fleeced Atlanta

[@FarewellOrwell]

That move now in hindsight was fookin brilliant

[@NBArecap]

Not to mention the Poeltl trade and the DeRozan trade were also huge surplus value

[@FortunateKidd]

Exactly!! The draft capital stored up in San Antonio is insane right now. I trust Pop and RC more than anybody else.

[@cuspcham]

To me it's a slightly risky bet that doesn't pay off. Dejounte may be good with Trae Young. They believe themselves I think. Sad that it doesn't pay off. As a Spurs fan I still hold some soft spot for the kid, no matter what he has said.

[@MaximusR93]

These dudes at the Ringer smoking good shit, they still think like the NBA is operating in 2008 when no one cares about draft assets… let dumb teams swing for the fences and give up all their picks. Smart teams like the spurs tank, trade valuable players to short sighted teams, draft wemby and have a surplus of picks to replenish talent, we see teams like the nuggets hit a wall because when you win a ring, your role players look for bigger contracts and you can’t pay everyone. Then you’re too good to draft anyone cause you’re always drafting in the late first round. The way the Spurs have set it up, they have a lot of picks to bring in top talent when the spurs will be championship contenders.

[@Kaubel]

Wemby in State Farm commercials, CP3 in HEB commercials.

[@sams568]

Yes! Didn't think about that.

[@FortunateKidd]

The crossover we never knew we needed

[@onerainywish7]

These guys have no idea what they’re talking about. They want the spurs front office to make rash, short-sighted decisions. Could they have gone all in on getting someone like Trae young? Sure but even then they’re a play-in team who’s given up future assets. 2025 will be a big draft for the Spurs. They’ll potentially have 2 lottery picks and have a lot of flexibility during free agency. If they don’t make big additions then, I’ll understand the criticism but for now, they’re playing it smart. The young guys will keep growing and be ready to meaningfully compete in a year or 2.

[@accordingtodrew7302]

Chris Paul can be a mentor for castle like how he was for SGA, shai himself will tell you how big Paul was for his development. Cp3 basically just realized his championship window is over so now he’s leaving his mark by being a mentor for the next group of guys

[@ed8018]

Wosny's takes have never impressed me. "The Spurs front office hasn't done anything cool in 10 years." What is that?? They are trying to build a long term championship contending team not get clicks. The Spurs are doing this methodically. Sorry it's not fast enough for some people. Ask how long it took OKC and Minnesota to be competitive.

[@britaneejustinmosley1900]

Took OKC 2 years to be competitive. Playoffs in 2020. Tore it down and back in the play-in in 2023. 1 seed in 2024. Only had 2 tank seasons 2020-2021 and 2021-2022 and then right back in playoff contention.

[@ed8018]

@@britaneejustinmosley1900 yeah it was brilliantly done. They are good now because they aquired a ton of draft capital and patiently developed their young players. Now they are legit championship contenders.

[@RMASUPERFLY]

Totally forgot that up to now the Spurs are still benefitting from the Kawhi trade.

[@guillaumeraux]

@@britaneejustinmosley1900Yeah, but Spurs are on a similar path as OKC: - 22 wins. - 24 wins or something. - 40 wins. - And last season, first seed. Beginning their serious contention window. Spurs just finished that second 20 something wins year and could get closer to the 40 wins OKC had during their 3rd year. (Probably around 33-35 for the Spurs next year). The timeline is pretty similar. And even if they need one more yea to get there, it would still be a fast and successful rebuild for the long term, while keeping their assets intact. Next year’s FA and Draft class are where the Spurs want to go hard. Keep your options open and your assets until then, build organically with one of the most experienced and best mentors in the league, and be the Behemoth at the negotiation table when it matters next summer. The Spurs one of the most well-ran organizations in team sport history for a reason.

[@MrWilson-zx9ix]

9:21 Wosny, arguing for Pop’s removal, actually makes a great argument for the current decision making. Imagine inadvertently beating yourself in an argument. 😂

[@sams568]

Terrible reporting

[@1mrrichierich]

For real. The reason why I never follow them

[@roksolid9]

Not every pick in the top ten is worth its weight. Just because you have a top ten pick you have pick someone just to pick. There’s a difference from other front offices and the spurs. The Spurs are winners. And almost everyone else is the wizards or pistons or hornets. Teams are perpetually in the lottery. So you don’t have to be “Fun” in the lottery and just pick anyone. This is a long term plan so the spurs can get back to dominating for the next 20-25 years again like with Duncan-TP-Manu. Don’t try to jump on the bandwagon later😂

[@1mrrichierich]

How about yall stop trying to make all kinds of narratives. You don’t need stop. Dillingham wasn’t the feature. You don’t need to develop two players. Castle is the person we needed. We need his lockdown defense.

[@joshdominguez853]

Hearing Wos talk about the spurs makes me lose brain cells, what a garbage take. Every one of these guys is being extremely short sighted

[@chirocket4791]

1 year of having a on court teacher for the young Spurs.

[@karl_sunagawa]

Interesting take in this video 🤔😬 CP3 will elevate the Spurs immediately. There will be a ton of CP3 -> Wemby lob highlights. CP3 will also help bring maturity to the locker room. CP3 will also expedite Castle’s development. And commitment is only for one year & for only $11 million. Spurs get better, expedites development, & CP3 gets to start. Everyone wins. This is a great move by the Spurs 🔥

[@petehaglund8840]

He’s ancient

[@genorivera2207]

Cp3 will help with the late game situations, they lost a lot of games because of late game turnovers.

[@christopheb.6121]

Nolan Traoré in the next draft for the Spurs.

[@_Waingro]

DILLINGHAM was a Minny Pick not a Spurs Trade

[@SteveOhs]

These guys do not know basketball

[@NBArecap]

“We can be painstakingly precise” …is that a bad thing? I’d rather patience than brash short sighted win now trades

[@dalvarez101093]

This is the definition of bad NBA takes, these guys do not come in prepared to have this discussion.

[@RMASUPERFLY]

Castle just got a hyper boost having Paul as a mentor. That kid is blessed having Hurley as college coach and now GOAT Popovich and Paul to help him reach his full potential. GSG!

[@allemoney]

Look at what CP3 did for numerous bigs and franchises. OKC and Shai being the most recent example. This is great for Wemby because he’d been missed on so many open easy buckets all season long. CP3 won’t miss those.

[@TheGorillaGuerrilla]

Rob Dillingham a dynamic and talented player but everyone is acting like he's an All-Star already. He hasn't played a single minute of NBA basketball and there are plenty of question marks, particularly on the defensive end. There's a small chance he gets played off the court, especially in the playoffs.

[@dunnswood]

Y’all are killing me over here. This is the best situation for us in San Antonio, and benefits everyone on the team regardless of position

[@phoenixkane1986]

I guess I’m gonna be saying this a lot. The Wolves picked Dillingham. The Spurs traded the 8th pick and made the selection for the wolves. We don’t know if they necessarily viewed Dilly as the 8th best player. Everybody keeps talking about them passing on Dilly when they passed on everybody below 7, Matas, Dilly, Devin Carter, etc. And yes, Castle is probably gonna get that CP3 tutelage.

[@gervinwilliams6885]

Yeah, this is a bad discussion. They've only missed the playoffs since 2020 after making it every year since 1997. What opportunities have they had to make "cool" moves? The Castle pick is the only top 8 pick they have had since...Sean Elliott? And the URGENCY 1 DAY INTO FREE AGENCY shouldn't even be a discussion. One guy says why wouldn't you draft Dillingham when they traded for two future 1st and the next guy wonders why they aren't thinking long term about Luka when they didn't even make the moves you're comparing them to? Just nonsensical.

[@MrWilson-zx9ix]

They were never gonna compete this year. Wemby and Castle are gonna learn this year. They’re gonna win 38 games, get a good pick in the 25 draft and make playoffs the next year. Stay calm folks.

[@christophermelendez2992]

It is future focused, you just want the big moves but that’s why you don’t work for an nba team and we just have to listen to your asinine opinions

[@nicklewandowski3877]

Spurs should go for a Markennan or DeRozan to add to the mix

[@sportsandstuff99]

Why the hell should the spurs be quick in rebuilding? So they can go out in the first round the next 3 years and then have no assets. So closed minded

[@MaelstromEnergy]

This works for all parties. CP3 gets to start, play for a good organization that will make sure is as healthy as he can be. Spurs get a mentor for the youngest squad in the league that won't take all the development time from Castle. On top of that, if CP3 plays well, he can be traded for more assets at the trade deadline

[@davetrevino4670]

These Spurs takes are so dumb lol why do they pretend to know? Wosnys confidence in his ingnorant takes is hilarious

[@kelleyeidem667]

I believe CP3 is going to play his ass off this year. Keep in mind that Wemby would be likely to improve a lot even if CP3 weren't part of the mix. Add in Paul's magic and we have no idea just how extraordinary the two will be together. Look for the opposition to try to double team Wemby which will give Vassell and Barnes lots of open threes.

[@alexc.7868]

Chris Paul inching closer to a ring. At the spurs trajectory he is only about 5 years away

[@Jomitheelf]

Spurs have something like 15 1st round picks in the next 7 drafts. They can give up 5 future firsts and Keldon Johnson for Lauri Markennan and still have multiple firsts in the Wemby era. They’re fine.

[@ryanerwin7394]

Never forget Wos said Chet was better (in November 2023) and now wants the spurs to rush the rebuild

[@Vastatio]

I'd suggest ditching red hat guy for the sake of your channel's growth. It's as if you grabbed a random guy from r/nbacirclejerk and asked him to spew bad takes.

[@Lilmacmcmo]

The future Minnesota picks are potential lottery picks. Who knows where they will be as a franchise 6-7 years from. Wemby will be entering his prime with potential lottery picks available to replenish the ranks - cheap talent too!

[@Convisis]

The Dillingham talk is so played out. Trey didn’t want him, or anyone else at number 8. They wanted future draft assets for flexibility to spend at the right time. The idea of the Spurs fast-playing their hand is ridiculous, the only thing more ridiculous is the idea that Pop and RC’s untouchable status mean they don’t have some necessary sense of over-urgency. Absurd.

[@jen_s_13]

Guy in red cap is too hot in American consumerism. “I want it now!!”

[@jeepneygang]

Watch for Juan Nunez

[@Head_log_8311]

It’s more about if you listen to SGA Chris Paul had a huge influence on him so I think the Spurs are trying to do the same for Castle. GSG

[@awenner]

I love bringing in Paul. The Castle pick and the trade of 8 are highly questionable, however

[@coachsondberg]

this wasmt a sharp discussion... job security... really???

[@_Waingro]

WOS IS A SABETEUR 9:46

[@jasonholloway4162]

The point gaurd from Kentucky ain’t ready, he too small. and more importantly unproven in the NBA.

[@joshuarangel4091]

Wos forever hates on the spurs lol f you mean the only good thing cool they have pulled off was draft Wemby dafawk!!! That’s kinda a big deal. You do realize trading white n Murray and not being aggressive on assets and loading up on picks was to get em 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@patconlon7835]

Lambre was right on--brian wright and his hubris front office are without a clue---including pops

[@darkaeons21]

Those T wolf's pick happen when wemby is in his prime and when the wolfs are out of it. Ant man's max contract is due at that time he might go elsewhere. High picks. Spurs are using that cap space for other moves. They are not done adding and trading this year. We fave 5 point guards on the roster right now. People are leaving. RC doesn't make these decisions anymore. Bryan Wright does. We have 5 possible picks in 2025 too. I wouldn't be in a hurry either.

[@basscat2107]

If you look at what the spurs have been trying to do, it is try to built a lockdown defense. They have drafted defense the last 3 years. It might surprise the league with their D

[@SwaySensei]

Wos better be careful, he inching towards McCants level bad takes with each passing day lol

[@ryanerwin7394]

Wosny wants the Spurs to do something “cool” … ok man

[@Chill-lofi-q9e]

Guy in maroon hat had a terrible take. The spurs know what they are doing and have 5 rings to prove it!

[@SwaySensei]

Just more national media members that don’t have a clue about a non Lakers, Celtics teams. Wos in his bag again, speaking matter of factly while missing the actual FACT part of it 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@jonathan7497]

These dudes know fuck all especially Wos. Dude needs a new job because he’s not him.

[@LiamborninDC]

How does CP3 put a pause on the Spurs progress? He is the reason OKC made the playoffs in 2020 and mentored SGA to become a better PG. He is the reason the Suns made it to the championship. If anything CP3 is going to help the Spurs compete for the play-in, hopefully get into the playoffs, get some playoff experience for the Wemby and the young core. Plus help mentor Castle like he did SGA.

[@eddiea2446]

Who are these guys 😂

[@berisfordcodd2859]

Castle will be a 2 guard... Juan Nunez will jump him by the time he comes over... Vassel will get phased out eventually

[@slobberkissintl3548]

People thought San Antonio was the safest place for Wembanyama. Maybe not

[@teEMOgeek14]

So many bad takes about this. Just 4guys with microphones talking about basketball but don't know about basketball. SMH

[@serge6885]

4:39 This guy is just horrible.

[@benjipie]

such dumb takes.

[@michaeltrevino3668]

These guys don’t know shit

[@danielharrell1660]

These takes are insanely bad 😂

[@Sentrox-]

Verrier with one of the dumbest takes of all time regarding the trade out of 8th. Trading out of 8 gives them so many more options, godfather package for a disgruntled superstar or trading for the 2025 number 1 pick, acquiring quality starters through trades, etc etc. Infinitely better than having a guy who projects to be Lou Will 2.0 with worse defense. If anything this can potentially accelerate how good the Spurs can become.

[@roksolid9]

Not every pick in the top ten is worth its weight. Just because you have a top ten pick you have pick someone just to pick. There’s a difference from other front offices and the spurs. The Spurs are winners. And almost everyone else is the wizards or pistons or hornets. Teams are perpetually in the lottery. So you don’t have to be “Fun” in the lottery and just pick anyone. This is a long term plan so the spurs can get back to dominating for the next 20-25 years again like with Duncan-TP-Manu. Don’t try to jump on the bandwagon later😂