CHRIS PAYNE Interview (Part.1) Gary Numan, Tubeway Army, Visage Fade to Grey, Dramatis, Synth Legend

Part 1 of our interview with the brilliant Chris Payne - 80's synth legend for Tubeway Army, Dramatis, Visage (Fade to Grey), Gary Numan. 2023
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THIS EPISODE:
Gary Numan - Tubeway Army
Gary Numan - Replicas
Gary Numan - Telekon
Gary Numan - Living Ornaments 79, 80, 81
Gary Numan - Dance
Gary Numan - Warriors
Gary Numan - Berserker
Gary Numan - Strange Charm
Visage - Visage
Visage - Fade to Grey
Dramatis - For Future Reference
Dead or Alive - Youthquake
Gary Numan - OGWT
Chris Payne Interview Part 2:
• CHRIS PAYNE Interview ...
Visage, Rusty Egan, Fade to Grey, Midge Ure, Russell Bell, Cedric Sharpley, Denis Haines, Billy Currie, Ultravox, Dead or Alive, Helden Project, Hans Zimmer, Zaine Griff, David Bowie, Tony Visconti, Genesis, Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, Skaparis Orchestra, Tubeway Army, Pete Burns, Warren Cann, Old Grey Whistle Test, TOTP
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[@electroniccafemusic]

Our Electronic Cafe interview with synth legend Chris Payne (Visage, Numan, Tubeway Army, Dramatis), tell us what you think 🎵

[@ashfaq1999]

Brilliant. Another great electronic cafe interview .

[@hannahpatrick1103]

Absolutely loved this interview, Chris is a legend to us Numan fans, well done, looking forward to part2, keep up the good work. Thanks for sharing ❤️

[@electroniccafemusic]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for kind words and for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@faylonbiryani]

Fantastic interview, Chris is always an absolute pleasure to talk to. Was lucky enough to get Chris to play on a Tenek track back in 2011, he took it to another level. Can’t wait for Part 2!

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thanks for your kind words + for watching the Electronic Cafe. MW

[@gazb916]

Wow, as you're asking Chris how he went from classical music to an interview with Gary Numan, and he mentioned his music teacher being Aedan Kerney...who was also MY music teacher and the choir master at Boundstone School in Lancing!! How have I only just found out that Chris went to the same school as me?!?!?

[@electroniccafemusic]

Wow, that's amazing, thanks for sharing ... and for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@lennyrussell8954]

Fantastic interview gentlemen. Chris is a proper musician who seems to be able to play anything and i know Billy Currie has gone on record saying he looked up to Chris which is high praise from someone who has had so much success.

[@andymcnab5620]

thanks Lenny always appreciate your support for the Electronic Cafe my friend - Andy

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thank you for your kind words Lenny. much appreciated, glad you enjoyed. Part two next week - Thanks too for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@kevinhill4904]

Superb interview, with a keyboard legend, who I saw playing with Gary Numan on his last Wembley Arena tour in 1981, thank you.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Glad you enjoyed it!. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe, much appreciated. MW

[@geraldtir]

Hi chaps, fantastic interview. It takes me right back love it…!!! Thank you. All the best now…

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thank you for your kind words. much appreciated, glad you enjoyed. Thanks too for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@andymcnab6848]

Thank you so much for the kind words and for watching the Electronic Cafe-Andy

[@TIMDRY]

Nice one!

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thanks! Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@andymcnab5620]

thanks and for watching the Electronic Cafe -Andy

[@johnnybambi]

tik and tok one next please . :)

[@robertthrossell4321]

Chris is an absolute superstar 👏👏

[@electroniccafemusic]

100% - thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe. MW

[@roblewis5044]

True legend synth player, love the Numan team.

[@golfhacker9051]

Wow how good was this 2 of my all time favorite tracks , Are Friends Electric and Fade To Grey, LOL every Xmas eve we all get to add 10 songs for our playlist for party. These two songs were blasted out of the speakers at Waddy point Fraser Island Australia for 10 years + i was asked to change after a few years i said NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! never.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Haha, fantastic. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@floridahomesales]

Great interview, Chris is so humble considering his incredible skills.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thank you for your kind words. much appreciated, glad you enjoyed. Thanks too for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@andymcnab6848]

Totally agree and thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe- Andy

[@djm9937]

Complex still gives me goosebump :)

[@electroniccafemusic]

Indeed. What a song. Thanks you for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@andymcnab6848]

Me too! Thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe-Andy

[@andrewsly3183]

Great interview guys-Chris is an understated & interesting person- I’ve watched his making off Fade to Grey many times-just a real shame that not many people know that he created that genius riff.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Indeed. Lovely guy. Thank you for your kind words. much appreciated. Thanks too for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@andymcnab6848]

Totally agree Andrew! Thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe- Andy

[@andrewburns5697]

A great watch and really interesting. Chris is a really great interviewee. I'm looking forward to part 2 very much.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thank you + thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe. MW

[@ondinamc]

Amazing to get to know all these legends and their work through your interviews! I had little knowledge of Chris and love being able to connect the dots. ❤️

[@electroniccafemusic]

Glad you enjoyed it!. Thanks as always for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@scotth1547]

Very interesting interview. I was a wee lad in 1979/80 and Numan was my introduction to electronic music. The listing of synths used on albums I always found informative. When will you guys interview Simon Posford? Unequivocally one of the most talented electronic music producers around today.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thanks for the kind words + for watching Electronic Cafe. Glad you enjoyed. MW

[@ashfaq1999]

Great video of the legendary chris payne 🎶

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thank you for your kind words. Chris was awesome to talk to. Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@ashfaq1999]

@@electroniccafemusic You’re welcome 😊

[@carlrose4877]

Great interview. Fade to Grey has such a quirky intro before the bassline kicks in. I would love to know how they came up with that

[@andymcnab6848]

Thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe -Andy

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thanks for your kind words and for watching the Electronic Cafe. MW

[@ianpearson9973]

Great interview with Chris. I enjoyed it a lot. Can’t wait for part 2.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for kind words and for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@translunar1]

Brilliant interview. Chris is an electronic music legend and this is really enjoyable. Thank you!

[@electroniccafemusic]

Couldn't agree more!. Thanks for your kind words. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@redonblue99]

Great interview , enjoyed that

[@electroniccafemusic]

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for comments. Thanks too for watching the Electronic Cafe. MW

[@iDoTechOK]

Super interview guys. I particularly love his rather humble beginnings, trying to find his way, picking up the viola - not knowing music.

[@andymcnab6848]

Appreciate the kind words and for watching the Electronic Cafe - Andy

[@iDoTechOK]

@@andymcnab6848 and I appreciate you mate (MarkW as well), but yourself in particular because you were absolutely bubbling. Giddy..

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thanks for your kind words - glad you enjoyed. Part 2 this week. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@electroniccafemusic]

i'm sure there's a compliment in there somewhere haha :-) MW

[@iDoTechOK]

@@electroniccafemusic oh yeah, nothing but compliments. it's nice to know I'm not the only one who gushes over someone I admire

[@StratsRUs]

If you just take the 3 songs that most know.Fade To Grey, Cars and Are Friends Electric ( in any order) , it is amazing how impactful they remain. Magical.Knocks me out and I only play guitar to them ! Thank you.LOVE your channel.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Great comments. You are spot on. Thanks for your kind words and for watching / supporting Electronic Cafe. MW

[@brianbutterworth8801]

Thanks for that guys, really interesting interview looking forward to part 2, keep cool fella's ..

[@andymcnab6848]

Thank you Brian and for watching the Electronic Cafe-Andy

[@electroniccafemusic]

Glad you enjoyed it. More coming. Thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe. MW

[@duncankemp63]

Another fantastic Interview ! Great Content guys.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thank you for your kind words. Glad you are enjoying. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@roblewis5044]

I love the brief talk about how unreliable the old analogue synths were, and the digital synths that replaced analogue, but now we have so many re-release of so many classic synths, juno x , jupiter x, behringer sh 101, korg arp odyssey etc, golden age of synths! Shout out to all of you guys! When machines rock !!!!!! Love you guys! God bless!

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thanks for your kind words + for watching Electronic Cafe. Means a lot. MW

[@clarebayliss3594]

Another fantastic interview as usual keep it up lads

[@electroniccafemusic]

Much appreciated. Thanks for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@RustyEgan]

Chris is a lovely person and we have done some beautiful music together .Sadly Visage was stolen from Midge and me by the contractual situation when we made the Visage recording and now are copied by John Pitcher of MRC Digital and put up for Synch uses as VISAGE. There are no members of Visage on these recordings and even Fade to Grey has been used by Dior and more world wide renowned brands who believe they are buying Visage . I do hope Midge Billy + Chris will ensure any more uses of the music is in fact quality recordings like the Blitzed Mix we recorded for the Sky Arts Documentary kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHu8apaJZ5yimLM

[@electroniccafemusic]

Well said Rusty. Chris is lovely. Thanks too for watching and supporting Electronic Cafe. MW

[@andymcnab6848]

Amen to all of that Rusty- thanks for your amazing support for the Electronic Cafe as well x

[@user-yc5um2pl5v]

Sad to read all of this, but I really hope everything will work out for you guys - and especially you, Rusty, you truly deserve it. Good luck!

[@ashfaq1999]

Sad to read this rusty. But you & the group amongst others have given us such great music which is priceless 👏

[@grahamwa65]

Chris is a lovely bloke. Had many laughs with him on tour in 1989.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Indeed he is. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@andymcnab6848]

Absolutely a lovely guy! Thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe =Andy

[@user-yc5um2pl5v]

Don't understand why Chris is is critical of his singing effort - "Turn" is a great song, quite possibly my favourite on the album, and he did a great job! So much passion and grit, like he was really cheesed off by something - not quite punk but there in spirit. Adds variety to the proceedings, too. No-no, stop it Mr Payne, I for one won't have any of it! A very surprising Boy George story. And always so good to hear of "Fade to grey" origins. Overall an addictive episode, heading straight to the next chapter! Thank you guys! And of course thank you Mr Payne!

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thanks for your kind words + for watching Electronic Cafe. Glad you enjoyed it. I too like "Turn". Great track. MW

[@ZeldaFitz]

Brother of Davie Payne, sax player in the Kilburns & blockheads.

[@electroniccafemusic]

I did not know that. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@colinwright4139]

Not convinced, can't find a reference. CP 13 years younger and born in Penzance. DP born London

[@ClivehWright]

Great interview, thanks guys. So many awesome tracks

[@electroniccafemusic]

Glad you enjoyed it!. Thank for the kind words + Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@paulpisters668]

The days that music was experimental created where so much better. The best songs emerged back than.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Without a shadow of a doubt. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@outpost31737]

The old band were the best. Gary's music has suffered since their departure.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe.MW

[@andymcnab6848]

Thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe-Andy

[@thiagofreigedo]

He must be completely senile, as he says he enjoys touring more now than ever

[@luciferbox5577]

A great interview with Chris, who does seem to be a thoroughly decent chap. Interesting to hear that it was actually him who came up with “Fade To Grey”, although Billie Curry and Midge Ure etc added elements to it to make it the great song it became. Don’t know if you’ve been asked this before, but an interview with Denis Haines would be great to hear at some point. Out of all the musicians who have worked with Gary over the years, he seems to be the most enigmatic. Pretty much everyone else has been interviewed, but not him. I remember hearing something years ago, not sure by whom, but they said that he didn’t quite fit in with the band, which doesn’t much sense in hindsight because he was in Dramatis. Would love to hear what he has to say about his time with Gary and his great album, “The Listening Principle”.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Great comments. Thanks for sharing. Thanks for the kind words, glad you liked it - part 2 coming. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@cnfuzz]

Fury tour was jx8p , d50 came out 2 years later 1987

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@1numanoid]

Great interview.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@user-sz9bc1qm8n]

Amazing interview with an amazing man.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thank you. Appreciated Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@tomsaunders8108]

"I didn't have an effing clue." Love it. As always a brilliant interview. The 'Fury' tour was my schoolmates and mine first Gary Numan tour, although we'd followed Gary and the band for a few years beforehand. It shows how 'fragile' (see what I did there ;-)) how Chris and Russell's instruments were back then; it almost sounds like a racing team mechanics crew followed them around to maintain the equipment. You get to appreciate from this interview how complicated and hard it was to put on a live Numan concert back then.

[@electroniccafemusic]

Great comments Tom, glad you enjoyed. Part 2 this week. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@andymcnab6848]

Awesome feedback Tom, thanks for your amazing support for the Electronic Cafe- Andy

[@syracusemusic1539]

Hi Mark and Andy great interview. Had no idea Kylie and Kelly burrowed the riff?!!!

[@andymcnab6848]

Thank you! We didn’t either! Thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe-Andy

[@electroniccafemusic]

Glad you enjoyed it. Such an interesting guy. Part 2 coming. Thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe. MW

[@andrewgarley1400]

Chris is lovely, he will respond to comments on FB, Learning Fade to G at the moment

[@electroniccafemusic]

Great stuff. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@GNeuman]

Another fascinating interview. Chris really is a mega interesting person to talk to. Thank you.

[@electroniccafemusic]

You’re welcome. Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for Watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@ashfaq1999]

Brilliant video & conversation with chris payne. A legend 👏

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thank you so much. Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@ashfaq1999]

@@electroniccafemusic Your Welcome 😊

[@stevejenko7416]

So glad I found your channel absolutely love it , it's a thumbs up from me 👍

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thanks Steve. Much appreciated and glad you have found us at Electronic Cafe. Please subscribe and all the usual stuff. MW

[@stevejenko7416]

@@electroniccafemusicit's the first thing I done , looking forward to future content 👍

[@Kevin-si1es]

Another superb interview with a synth legend can we please have one with vince clarke or any of the human league love your channel keep up the good work

[@electroniccafemusic]

Great suggestion!. Thanks for comments and kind words. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@2009numan]

The Human League used to use reel to reel tape players as well

[@electroniccafemusic]

Indeed. Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@andymcnab6848]

Thanks for watching the Electronic Cafe-Andy

[@user-yc5um2pl5v]

And OMD. And DepMo too. Actually a really great visual, pity it got rid of pretty quickly.

[@jasonmcbain15]

Stumbled across this channel and now subscribed...Love to the location for the sleeve shots for 'For Future Reference".

[@electroniccafemusic]

Awesome! Thank you!. Glad you found us + subscribed.Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@adrienbickenbach4204]

I love Chris' music, he's fantastic. Thanks for this great interview. Back in the 80s, when I was a teenager in Germany, I was a big fan of Dramatis (I was probably their only German fan, though). Did I get this right, it's possible we finally get a proper studio version of "Sand and stone"? That would be awesome. I've been waiting for this for a 100 years!!

[@electroniccafemusic]

Glad you enjoyed it!. Thanks for the kind words and for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@user-yc5um2pl5v]

Oh yes, "Sand and stone" is a lost gem! Pity they didn't release it back in the day.

[@aaronrojas5399]

The vocals sound a bit like Heaven 17

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thanks for watching Electronic Cafe. MW

[@GravyDaveNewson]

the hook from Fade to Grey was lifted from Being Boiled anyway

[@colinwright4139]

Actually, it wasn't.

[@g-nman6265]

Cant see it myself.

[@user-yc5um2pl5v]

Lol what?! What are you talking about? Have you heard either song at all?

[@colinwright4139]

@user-yc5um2pl5v having purchased Being Boiled in 1979, and been a Numan fan in the beginning, and understanding the two commonly ascending notes don't really make a hook. Chris Payne playing a composition he wrote at music college in a sound check makes it more than improbable. It is unlikely that Marsh/Ware heard the progression from Payne either. Just because something sounds similar doesn't mean it's lifted.

[@user-yc5um2pl5v]

@@colinwright4139 Exactly! Also, maybe it's simply a common and/or natural progression that just plays itself - happens in music all the time. I gave "Being boiled" a hard listen yesterday, and yeah, there's a short bit that sounds kinda similar - but I highly doubt "Being boiled" was that widely known in 1979. It was a cult hit, heard by chosen few, not sure anyone would already be lifting from it.

[@dresstokill4992]

Boss interview. My 1st synth was a moog Rogue. Then juno 6, alpha one, d10 Like Mr Payne I sold all of em

[@electroniccafemusic]

Thank you for kind words. Yes, same here - let's not go there ! Thanks for comments + supporting Electronic Cafe. MW

[@dresstokill4992]

@@electroniccafemusic And I still have my Touring program from the Liverpool Empire in 79. With ticket stapled on. 3 quid for THAT light show! 1st gig I ever went to. Only Gabriel's light show in 87 came close