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Chris Simms discusses the thought process behind how he constructs his 2024 NFL quarterback rankings, which releases on Monday, May 13. #NFL #FNIA #NBCSports
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[@ThoughtPolice1984]

Unless someone tears his arm off, Matthew Stafford should be near the top of any "right now" conversions. He still rips the ball, builds great chemistry with his receivers and is arguably the toughest QB in the league. I know he is old but he hasn't fallen off quite yet.

[@rjohn0493]

You can argue the order but top 5 is Mahomes Lamar Allen Burrow Herbert. Stroud will overtake Herbert after this year though.

[@nobonesaboutit7639]

​@@robmiller2221this is the dumbest thing i ever heard

[@JohnAC4]

@@robmiller2221oh no he lost a receiver that had nothing to do with their second half of the season surge. Oh noooo

[@jo0123]

Lamar is a below averages passer.

[@JohnAC4]

@@jo0123I wouldn’t say that, he definitely improved this year with consistent decision making and with overall pocket presence

[@Brojack66]

Herbert?? That shipped sailed years ago

[@stevewest6133]

Simms sounds like he's trying to out-analyze the actual analytics, rather than just admitting bias and opinion. The final 2023 PFF QB grades were: 10)Goff 85.7 9)Cousins 86.1 8)Hurts 86.7 7)Tua 86.9 6)Purdy 87.4 5)Stafford 88.2 4)Dak 90 3)Lamar 90.4 2)Mahomes 90.5 and 1) Josh Allen 92.1 That is the baseline. The 2024 debate should be- Who regresses? Who breaks in?

[@stephenchamberlain7184]

PFF grades also aren't perfect. I think they're a great gauge to get a baseline but just as an example I can remember games that Fields would grade amazingly because he would get some long scrambles, meanwhile if you watched the tape he's just missing his reads. PFF has it's own grading system and also has humans grading those plays based on that system. They weight certain things certain ways. It's still subjective based on their grading system and who's doing those grades at the time. Chris is watching the tape and doing his best, in his opinion to grade these players. It's not as simple as PFF are the analytics so there you go. That's close minded thinking to one system(even if it is a pretty good one)

[@DenBover-pf7xk]

No analyst should be using pff grades lmao, eye test is a smarter way to look at it.

[@chrissimon3790]

Pff is cool but people need to form their own opinions otherwise you're not doing any analysis

[@stevewest6133]

@@DenBover-pf7xk LOL, literally you are saying "analysts shouldn't use analytics"

[@DenBover-pf7xk]

@@stevewest6133 analysts should use statistics... PFF isn't an analytic it's creating its own grade. It's like me saying mahomes is 10000 rank and Allen is 7500 and burrow is 7000 because that's what I think based on stats. Then someone saying Allen is better than mahomes because of his denbover rating. It's the lazy way of an analyst having an opinion. Like you apparently 😉

[@rorytribbet6424]

Putting Jordan love at #5 when he’s played literally 7 good games of football in his entire career is so asinine I don’t even know how to process it 😂😂💀💀

[@toddthomas4761]

I couldn't help but laugh at the ridiculousness

[@2badmofo257]

I agree. Not to mention the games he was good were the games Aaron Jones was nearly unstoppable

[@ajkareem5685]

I would take Daniel jones over him

[@szn1580]

He ain’t better than Stroud

[@toddthomas4761]

@@ajkareem5685 LOL now that's an easy one

[@Joel-brody]

Brock Purdy should be top 8 but likely wont be...His arm isn't elite but his accuracy, processing, and short area quickness are. Chris oozes over Trevor Lawrence because of the pedigree and potential for some wow throws, but man he was WAAY more inconsistent and bad throw prone last year than Brock was.

[@704jiggy2]

Purdy top 5

[@wardski123]

Jordan Love over Herbert is hilarious.

[@cameronbatterton5900]

Playoff games

[@thewizardofoz511]

I just don't see why everyone on ESPN national media is ready to crown the guy already after a season.. idk common sense would tell me I want to see it again before I label or crown anything or anyone.. you would think these professionals would know something like this.. If Love retraces,..😮 ooooOOO boy, you will have people just salivating over the opportunity of shredding this guy but ESPECIALLY national media.. 😅😅

[@jdajayi92]

That's correct. He's barely Top 8. If Herbert wasn't tall and white with blonde hair, neither him or Trevor are even in the conversation. They plain suck against top competition, and live off of media hype. Hurts went to the superbowl and doesn't get any love. Herbert can't even get to the playoffs

[@wardski123]

@@jdajayi92 Looks like Simms agrees with me. Herbie at 6. Sad!

[@jdajayi92]

@@wardski123 you get your confidence from Simms? The fact that Herbert and Trevor can stink up in any game they want, but Lamar, Kyler, Hurts, Dak, Fields, and soon CJ Stroud get THRASHED for every mistake, should tell you the OBVIOUS dang reason why Herbie is at 6 even though he can't get to the playoffs

[@w00deey12]

notables from last year. Daniel Jones at 11. Ryan Tannehill at 16. Mac Jones, Kyler, and Derek Carr above Tua. Kenny Pickett above Brock Purdy.

[@ALWAYSTHINK4YOURSELF]

Yes, but that was last year.

[@Drewswaggy]

@@ALWAYSTHINK4YOURSELFexactly lol

[@Kolbi504]

Daniel jones had a good szn when the giants went to the playoffs the year before couldn’t knock it

[@TTSCAM]

@@Kolbi504no he didn’t

[@mikeygregory9913]

I wanna see your full QB rankings coming into this year and we will see how wrong you were. Oh wait you didn't make one, you were busy spreading hate on social media in your bedroom.

[@matthewm7487]

Lamar Jackson gets into the top five conversation via affirmative action.

[@noelliastarr5853]

Racist much?

[@roundhouse8003]

1. Mahomes 2. Allen 3. Burrow 4. Lamar 5. Stafford 6. Stroud 7. Herbert 8. Love 9. Dak 10. Hurts.

[@terrancehall9762]

Lamar is 2.

[@704jiggy2]

Exactly who you gonna put 2x mvp behind ppl that ain’t win shit in the their career never even won their conference & he won his conference 2x 🤣🤣🤣

[@travesotom6890]

The first 8 picks look good but 9and 10 got to go 😂

[@dannygross1639]

@@terrancehall9762Allen put up a td score that equaled what Lamar and purdy did combined against kc in playoffs , there is a reason to put Allen at 2 .

[@boldtaa]

I don’t hate this.

[@clos24]

"He's on his butt, he's coming "

[@JohnAC4]

It’s always the butts and thighs with him😭🤣

[@jd229]

Mahomes/Allen Burrow Everyone else. Dont come at me with burrow is better than Allen. Burrows defense has won every playoff game hes been in his average points scored is mid at best. Had a chance to win the SB and pooped the bed.

[@billsfanatic7288]

Burrow doesn’t deserve a unanimous top 5 bid

[@jd229]

@@billsfanatic7288 I mean I lean towards agreeing with you but he's been to a sb and had great stats when healthy. Idk who I'd put over him. Arod maybe but that leans heavily on past performance

[@erskinreese3239]

Mahomes is in a tier all by himself… the gap is after him…

[@jd229]

@@erskinreese3239 if you look at the level of play and not accomplishments that just isn't true. In fact allen does stuff mahomes simply cannot do. Chiefs have been the much better team than the bills.

[@zm3691]

​@@jd229what are you talking about, level of play?! What do you mean by level of play? Aside from consistently running designed runs, what does Allen do that Mahomes doesn't? Mahomes by every metric - minus run yards and run TD's - is beyond Allen. Mahomes has won as a gunslinger and game manager. He's won with offensive stars and nobodies. He's won with a top tier defense and a bottom tier defense. Allen is good. He's not on Mahomes tier, and that's ok, no one is. 1. Mahomes - 2. Whoever else you want to argue (Allen, Burrow, Jackson, etc.)

[@brent4536]

11:33 no diddy😂

[@turdsandwich5035]

I thought I was the only one who caught that. 😂

[@ethanhoward9327]

Justin Herbert looks amazing while losing most of his games...

[@moose_tracks41]

Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the league - and that’s why so many people tune in when the Bills play the Chiefs. Everybody knows 17 is that dude. But in a team sport, you gotta have all three phases if you want to win hardware. The Chiefs figured that out, the Bills have yet to do so. It is what it is.

[@lordbudlett6520]

Josh Allen didn’t lose most of the games this year. He always puts our team in a spot to win. Dumb coaching calls/plays and the defense lose games. Also the fact we had a hobo from the parking lot playing man on Travis Kelce didn’t help.

[@moose_tracks41]

@@lordbudlett6520 Agreed. Most of the time, Allen does what it takes to win a game - even if he started off that game with an untimely turnover. He redeems himself most of the time.

[@sprawlz6466]

Allen somehow has the all time NFL record for postseason yards per game and postseason TDs per game, and is still top 5 in all time postseason interception percentage. Monster

[@moose_tracks41]

@@sprawlz6466 Right. And it’s that kind of stuff that contributes to my belief that Josh Allen before it’s all said and done may be the best quarterback to have ever played in the league to this point. When he’s on fire, it’s pretty much impossible to stop him. But he doesn’t play defense or special teams (!). 🤷‍♂️

[@sprawlz6466]

@@moose_tracks41 idk if I’d say that. Lots of great quarterbacks over the years man

[@robertschoelerman7496]

What games is Cris simns watching Prescott had a great roster and choked when it mattered the most

[@DenBover-pf7xk]

Like Allen most years 😂

[@Andyman2340]

Burrow vs Mahomes and Allen combined: 5-1

[@shawnokeefe1580]

How many games he miss hurt....too fragile

[@shawnokeefe1580]

But great

[@BillyBuffalo354]

Great, now do his record vs the Browns & Steelera. Or his very average playoff stats.

[@itsnotaus]

1. pat mahomes 2. joe burrow 3. josh allen 4. stroud 5. lawrence 6. stafford 7. herbert 8. jackson after that i don’t care

[@terrancehall9762]

This isn't in order?

[@704jiggy2]

wtf bro this list ass asf you don’t kno football don’t ever list qb in ya life 🤣💯

[@itsnotaus]

@@terrancehall9762 y’all sleep on lawrence

[@travesotom6890]

This is a good list except Lawrence isn’t a top 7 quarterback or top 10 for that matter, he’s about 12-14 😆

[@itsnotaus]

@@travesotom6890 aye I respect that it’s a common opinion but I believe that lawrence is hella underrated.

[@wingedbuffalo4670]

I'm NOT a Chargers fan especially, BUT don't sleep on Herbert this upcoming season or sell him short. I believe Herbert will absolutely FLOURISH under Harbaugh, and I even think that -- depending on injuries and luck -- the Chargers could even shock KC and win the AFC West this year. Herbert is super smart, he's got loads of talent, and Harbaugh excels at "coaching-up" average-to-good talent QBs to play at "franchise QB" levels ... just look at what he did for Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick in San Francisco. Herbert has more raw talent than both of them combined, so I can just imagine how good of a QB he will become under Harbaugh.

[@sal4856]

Allen just as good as Mahomes 3-3.reguar season, playoffs his frozen brain coach and kicker cost him 2 playoff games, Mahomes luckier..

[@dankenkit]

from watching them go head to head, Allen makes more plays and is the better QB. Mahomes has more help on boh sides of the ball

[@moose_tracks41]

I see a couple people put bias in the trash bin and actually watch football objectively. How refreshing. 💯

[@dankenkit]

@@moose_tracks41 you know that. 👍

[@PatTheRipper]

Imagine Allen under Andy Reed 🤯🤯🤯

[@dankenkit]

@@PatTheRipper wouldn’t be fair.

[@Noahdventure]

Jordan love at 5 is actually stupid lol. You can argue. Lot of guys top 5 not him

[@jdajayi92]

The Trevor Lawrence argument is so ridiculous. The guy has done NOTHING!

[@TheInsatiableDrBoom]

Toms sitting at home going... shit Im better than 23 of these starters.

[@jamesanagnos6123]

Tommy is a hasbeen forget about him

[@rorytribbet6424]

Mahomes Allen Burrow Lamar Herbert Stroud Lawrence Love Stafford

[@billsfever]

You were just ripping the other dude for putting Love in the Top 5 already but then you put Stroud at 6 after his rookie season?

[@benguensche]

@@billsfeverstroud is probably higher than 6 honestly

[@billsfever]

@@benguensche I'm not disagreeing, I was just showing his logic in it all

[@tunahelpa5433]

Same 10, but I'd put Herbert higher, Burrow lower and Stafford gets no respect

[@ThatsCrazyBro3752]

Lawrence? Baker mayfield is better than Lawrence

[@noelliastarr5853]

Mahomes Allen The rest

[@nhp5067]

Burrow >

[@czechpirc3212]

Stafford should be 3 or 4 worst case

[@simonevans5562]

Simms, fire your barber.

[@MattRowland]

Herbert sure does get a lot of respect for someone who doesn't have "it."

[@milton1448]

wait and see

[@DerekForde]

Love how Allen gets excuses for a terrible defense but Herbert had a much worse defense for his entire career.

[@thomasburns3345]

The difference is that Allen still wills his team to victory in most of those cases and Herbert just… hasn’t. Josh has won a lot in spite of the poor play of his team. Herbert either can’t or doesn’t will more from his group.

[@307wyopride4]

Allen does more with less. It's that simple. Love how there's always that one guy who thinks Herbert is anywhere near Allen's talent.

[@rorytribbet6424]

@@307wyopride4most people in the league think this. Allen is better, Herbert is close tho.

[@christopherg7098]

It's not the defense that's the problem on Buffalo, it's the coach and mediocrity that surrounded him, outside of Diggs. Buffalo WR room was not that good, they just weren't.

[@mass9504]

Allen has carried his team multiple times including in the playoffs the last 4 seasons. he hasn't won less than 10 games in a season since his rookie year.

[@brandenmessersmith9868]

I want to hear Chris simms, not McCourty.

[@jacobgiordano7778]

Jordan Love is another Carson Wentz

[@hunterreynolds2225]

This is actually the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. They do not play at all the same.

[@jamesanagnos6123]

@@hunterreynolds2225 he must be a bears fan lol

[@dayneamyx293]

Mahomes Burrow (healthy) Allen Lamar Stafford Herbert Stroud Goff Purdy Love Hurts Rodgers Dak Cousins Kyler Murray T Lawrence Tua Baker G Smith R. Wilson D Watson D Carr D. Jones S Darnold Bryce Young A Richardson G Minshew Levis TBD: Player(ceiling for 2024) Caleb Williams (10ish) Jayden Daniels (15ish) Bo Nix (20th ish) Drake Maye (shouldnt start, 22nd ish) JJ Mcarthy (shouldnt start, 20th ish) Pennix (shouldnt start, maybe 15th ish)

[@tinyvanliving4488]

Burrow is not and will never be healthy again….

[@mattuccima2893]

Yeah and Derrick rose was the best nba player ever (healthy) 🤡

[@wingedbuffalo4670]

STOP jinxing Josh Allen by saying "he never gets hurt." Point 1: He actually DOES get hurt -- BUT he plays through his injuries for the most part: a) His rookie year he hurt his passing elbow, ligaments, and tendons, and missed a couple of games b) Two seasons ago he BADLY hurt his throwing elbow's ligaments and ulnar nerve fairly early in the season (there was a concern he might require Tommy John surgery to repair the damage) ... but, like a warrior, he didnt throw during practice for several weeks yet played the games on Sundays when most QBs would have shut it down for the remainder of the seson c) Last season, he suffered a badly hurt shoulder (non passing arm I believe) but kept playing all season So he does get hurt -- he simply plays through it for the most part Point 2: He's at risk of getting SERIOUSLY hurt though if you keep jinxing him -- just like the oafish commentstor who opines that "QB x hasn't thrown an interception in 200 throws" ... and the very next play proceeds to throw a pick" ... or "kicker Z hasn't missed a field goal inside 35 yards in over a season" ... and the kicker then proceeds to miss a short "chip shot" FG attempt.

[@axe2grind244]

What Chris Simms says doesn’t affect reality. If Simms had said “Allen never wins the SB” does that mean they’re going to or is the “reverse jinx” not real either. For being far and away the most physically aggressive QB ever he does not get injured, he gets hurt, which is 2 completely different things.

[@wingedbuffalo4670]

@@axe2grind244 "Jinxing" is a figure of speech -- everyone knows that the speaker can't actually produce the articulated event or its inverse; but that reality doesn't alter the other reality that, invariably (for reasons unrelated in reality to the speaker) the articulated event or its inverse often does occur. As for the "hurt" vs "injured" distinction, everyone who has ever played football knows that they are different -- but NOT "completely" different. They are differing GRADATIONS -- as in our coaches always telling us that we can play hurt, but not truly injured. Josh may indeed get "injured" (we never get to see the MRIs, X-rays, CT scans, medical reports, etc.) -- but he typically plays through it whenever possible -- moreso than most other QBs do.

[@GeeDeeBird]

I like the idea of jinxes. So let me say, the Buffalo Bills haven't been to the Super Bowl since drafting Josh Allen, and they have never won it. Jinx me!

[@wingedbuffalo4670]

@@GeeDeeBird let's hope that does the trick to reverse the track record !!!

[@jd229]

If cj stroud was on the dolphins they would have beat the chiefs in the playoffs.

[@Sleezygem]

Where are sims rankings lol

[@Sleezygem]

@@nuwavetvproductions preciate it

[@thomasburns3345]

It literally says in the info card and the video they’re being released Monday, May 13th

[@Sleezygem]

@@thomasburns3345 my bad I got adhd

[@ringoflynt]

Mahomes - Allen and then there’s Burrow and Jackson. Those are the QBs that everyone is most excited to play Mahomes.

[@NathanDean79]

Burrow isn’t hurt ALL THE TIME. He missed 6 games in 2020 and 7 games last year. In 2021 he played in 21 straight games. In 2022 he played in 20 straight games. Tua just finished a whole 17 games last year. Tua has missed more than 13 games. Burrows were freak accidents. Lamar Jackson mised 10 games In 2 years. Not sure how many he has missed total. Burrows injury’s were no one could play through that. No one could play if the tore their ACL and MCL. Not going to happen. The Bengals offensive line I. 2020 was pathetic. Last year he tore a ligament in his wrist. A linebacker could have played through that. A CB could have played through that. A QB can’t not when it’s on your throwing arm. Just like Brock Purdy had a similar injury and then you have Christian MaCaffery the RB playing QB. Burrow is going to play 20 games again this year. The Bengals are getting the number 1 seed and are winning the Super Bowl. There are lots of QBs in the NFL who can’t make it through an entire 17 game season. Burrow played through small injury’s. By week 10 no k e is fully healthy. That’s why I say Burrow is t injury prone because the injury’s he had had were catastrophic freak accidents. His latest injury the wrist injury is a fairly common injury among linebackers or o and d lineman. QB’s don’t Have that injury. Burrow could Not find 1 single QB who had ever had that injury. All he found were linebacker and linemen who have had it.

[@szn1580]

Top 5 in my book !! 1. Patrick Mahomes 2. Joe Burrow 3. Lamar Jackson 4. Josh Allen 5. Justin Herbert Honorable mentions: Aaron Rogers, Jalen Hurts, Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff, CJ Stroud, Brock Purdy, Tua Tagovailoa,

[@jamesanagnos6123]

Stafford is better then your 3,4,and 5 by a long shot

[@szn1580]

@@jamesanagnos6123on a consistent basis? I don’t think so. This past 3 years? Debatable for sure

[@jamesanagnos6123]

@@szn1580 the three i mention were not playing on the Lions for ten years lol were talking about right here and now, to be honest i would only take Mahomes over Stafford he is top shelf

[@rzawistowski33]

He's gonna have Tua at like 22, always puts him too low, he's probably around 12-15 realistically as a thins fan. Good enough to always be a starter, but not a put you on his back QB.

[@szn1580]

@@rzawistowski33I’m no analysts but I’m a huge nfl watcher. Off the top of my head Tua is maybe 16 or 17. I’d put Goff and Baker right infront of him tbh

[@dubmcz]

Sorry, Tua's better than Herbert. Try to objectively tell me how he's better, i'll wait.

[@TheRealPSKilla502]

Tyreek Hill

[@dubmcz]

@@TheRealPSKilla502 Herbert had Keenan Allen, Mike Williams and Austin Ekeler. Tua still put up numbers when Tyreek was hurt.

[@thomasburns3345]

Tua never makes a play after his first read lmao. As a Bills fan I’m PSYCHED you folks fell into the trap and are going to pay him…

[@jeremyspencer3374]

Tua is like the two girls on squid game playing marbles. He’s the one that noodles the marble like 5 inches. He’s a nice dude and good at getting the ball out quickly and gaining yards from his yac guys but Herbert is a complete QB just had some terrible coaching in LA

[@TomatoPace]

Dude i understand Tua doesnt have the strongest arm, but to still hate on him for throwing a screen every now and then from you is beyonf hypocritical. You argued all pre draft that Bo nix shouldn't be knocked because of his offense and the amount of screens he threw. You argued today that Burrow gets to be as good as he is because of Chase, boyd, higgins, and Mixon versus Allen just have diggs all these years. I just dont get it. Tua and Burrow now has similar roster talent around them, but you never make such negative comments towards burrow. Im not even arguing Tua is better than Burrow. Im just asking for consistency in your arguments

[@JAEKorn317]

Honestly what’s the difference where he’s ranked. He’s fine but will never, ever get the phins to a Super Bowl. He MAY win a division title in his career. So who cares if he’s ranked 9 or 15?

[@johnripepijr.7858]

Tua only led the league in AirYards last year- did screen passes change??

[@w00deey12]

your point is well stated. I agree. Simms does not like to admit that there are different systems in football that require different skillsets from the quarterback who runs the system.

[@TomatoPace]

@@johnripepijr.7858 true, but Simms will overlook the fact Tua really threw 20 yard passes as often as anyone

[@307wyopride4]

​@TomatoPace lol, but 20 yards is all Tua's got. He can't hardly throw any further.

[@tjayd1225]

Talent for talent Herbert is better than Lamar. Put Herbert on the ravens in the afc title game & the ravens go to the Super Bowl

[@1234legend1234]

Fucking hell, that is one of the worst takes I've ever heard. Bravo.

[@TheRealPSKilla502]

Herbert has never won a playoff game, and in his only playoff appearance, he blew a 28 point lead vs the jags. Please explain how he would fare against Mahomes in the afc championship.

[@samgallup8260]

Mahomes Burrow Allen Stroud Stafford Herbert Then maybe Lamar

[@TheRealPSKilla502]

Mahomes Burrow Lamar Allen Stroud Stafford Rodgers Dak Tua Purdy Then maybe Herbert

[@dankenkit]

Allen Mahomes Jackson Herbert Stroud Burrow is mid and made by his weapons

[@TheRealPSKilla502]

@@dankenkit Allen is not better than Mahomes or Lamar

[@dankenkit]

@@TheRealPSKilla502 He most definitely is

[@baltimoregetup9537]

So many QB but only Lamar bothers you many your annoying

[@bankslaw8900]

It’s crazy how MVPs didn’t mean anything when Lamar started winning them.

[@roundhouse8003]

His first MVP was 5 YEARS AGO. Since then Lamar has not had a season close to that level of production. His recent MVP was given to him because his TEAM was so good that they finished with the best record. Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott, and Josh Allen all contributed more to their teams in terms of statistics. Lamar had a great year, but playoff performance has been an Achilles Heel of his and it reared its ugly head again against the Chiefs. Once Lamar shows up consistently in the postseason then he will unequivocally be top 2. Right now it’s not clear that he is.

[@TheRealPSKilla502]

@@roundhouse8003Lamar had a great season in 2019 because of Greg Roman’s new offense, but teams gradually figured it out and G Ro didn’t evolve the passing game, also he had literally the worst receivers in the league in 2022. Look what happened when the ravens finally gave him an NFL-caliber passing scheme. In retrospect, it’s pretty impressive what he was able to achieve with such a terrible passing scheme and supporting cast.

[@bankslaw8900]

@@roundhouse8003 Lamar is in the MVP race every year outside his rookie year. The Ravens lost to the SB champs by 7 and Zay fumbled in the end zone but I guess that was Lamar fault. Bottom line unless you have 2 MVPs you not better than Lamar.

[@SeiyaSoiya-un4jj]

Lamar hasn’t even come close to throwing for 4,000. How is that possible in today’s NFL?

[@mikemike6182]

Well u can put lamar as no1 but i think 99 more people will say no to thag 😂

[@VladeDivacJr]

He’s right on Mahomes butt…. He’s coming…. Ayo…. No diddy

[@jeffandkarenhay8966]

Aaron Rogers????????????>

[@dunegoon7412]

Here we go knock on TuA. Earth to simms look at net air yards stat. He is such a buffoon and doesnt even do his homework.

[@sprawlz6466]

The Dolphins passing plays will always result in a turnover or a sack of Tua’s first 2 reads aren’t open

[@milton1448]

Tua is a pretender

[@dubmcz]

The lack of respect for my guy Tua continues. unreal. watch what happens when NFL top 100 comes out how the nfl considers Tua over their "Top 10 qbs"... unreal.

[@dankenkit]

Tua sucks bro

[@dubmcz]

@@dankenkit why?

[@dankenkit]

Burrow is mid, stop it

[@Kolbi504]

Lamar is #2 he has the mvp to back it up , Allen 3

[@DerekForde]

MVP with the same stats as Tyrod Taylor FOH

[@Kolbi504]

@@DerekForde without Lamar ravens wouldn’t be in that position. Taylor can put up those stats and his team doesn’t have the best record lol or his impact isn’t the same as Lamar

[@thomasburns3345]

Stats > Popularity contest

[@vitigaymer1053]

Allen has the better post season record and has better stats year after year. Lamar gets carried by his team. Josh Allen carries his team on his back Allen is QB no#2

[@307wyopride4]

Allen is way better than Lamar. MVP is just a popularity vote so that doesn't mean shit. Allen had more yards and TD's than all other QB's last season. And still didn't win MVP, the participation trophy. Lmfao

[@chrischilds368]

No way Allen is second. Awards, winning, stats, supporting cast should all play apart. To say Allen is better at those things than Lamar just doesn’t make sense. To ding Lamar for not winning a superbowl but not others is the unfairness people talk about.

[@skippythetubrat]

LOL. OK.

[@Kolbi504]

I agree Allen is 3 if anything and if it wasn’t for mahomes winning lamar would be 1

[@JAEKorn317]

Allen’s won the division the last 4 years, his playoff numbers dwarf Lamar’s. He’s a much better passer than Lamar and more durable. If the Bills defense holds KC to 17 you like Ravens did you can bet the bills are advancing.

[@jonathancastillo9616]

Josh Allen plays all his games. On top of that he's second in the league in total yards since 2020 (rushing and passing) and 5,000 more than Jackson, 1st in total TDs since 2020 and 74 more than Jackson. It gets worse in the playoffs. And let's not mention their head to head in the playoffs, where Jackson throws a pick six in the goalie while down 7nand then doesn't finish the game.

[@Kolbi504]

@@jonathancastillo9616 well Lamar won mvp last season , i understand Allen has the better stats but based off last season Lamar is 2 , Allen 3 .

[@jamesanagnos6123]

Simms you can get them all on a piece of paper and you will still get it all wrong nothing you ever say comes to be true

[@Seanksb]

Uh, Mahomes, Allen, and Lamar?

[@GeeDeeBird]

Okay, you don't like Chris Simms.