Who’s the Best Quarterback in the NFL Not Named Mahomes? | The Rich Eisen Show

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[@GameBlouses84]

“No I don’t wanna talk about Nick Wright” lol that one got me

[@JmanJblack]

Rich is a hater

[@KomoKorp]

@@JmanJblack no my brudda nick is the h8er

[@ryanfinley8912]

“But there’s nothing funny about it these days, is it?” Rich that was cold 😂🥶

[@legman1476]

Yeah, Rich went "all in" with that comment.

[@logancarothers5268]

He didn't have to do that 😂😂😂

[@stephensullivan1011]

🤣​@@legman1476

[@steelpookie7597]

Damn, that hurt me and I’m a Steelers fan 😂😂😂

[@wifi8811]

Rich is becoming one of my favorite sports commentators.

[@stevehasler8922]

becoming?

[@matthewdennis1739]

Burrow and Allen have shown they can go toe to toe with Mahomes in the playoffs. Whether it's fair or not Lamar has not. He has consistently underachieved in the postseason.

[@darnelldavis7842]

Exactly great point

[@matthewdennis1739]

@@darnelldavis7842 And Lamar doesn't have the excuse of not having enough around him either, the Ravens are consistently one of the best rosters in the league.

[@RayWilson-bf5qz]

​@@matthewdennis1739Lamar never had a number one receiver like Allen, burrow and mahomes, and going toe to toe with mahomes in the playoffs, Lamar only lost by a touchdown, and at the end of the day Lamar, Allen, and burrow have zero Superbowl's 🤡, The only difference out of the three quarterbacks is that Lamar has two MVPs to there none lmao 🤣 🎤 drop racist white boy!!

[@matthewdennis1739]

@@RayWilson-bf5qz And Allen has never had a run game, and Burrow has never had an offensive line. Not many QBs don't have a weak spot on their offense. It's not an excuse. The difference in his performance in the regular season and postseason isn't because of his receivers.

[@plugcap2604]

@@matthewdennis1739Lamar is the run game lmao

[@tjayd1225]

Josh Allen is dramatically better than Lamar Jackson. Let’s keep it all the way 100, idc care about MVP’s, Lamar has more turnovers than td’s in the playoffs and has a losing record in the playoffs

[@almightyderic527]

Y’all love talking talking about the playoffs when neither qb won a superbowl but 1 has 2 mvps and the other was mid asf before a coach and Diggs changed his life…

[@rjtherenegade7743]

If Josh Allen had Lamar’s resume and Lamar had Allen’s you wouldn’t say that. Y’all are weird as hell.

[@kdr5d]

But yet, only one of them is a HOFr RIGHT NOW

[@jesseg1486]

That dude wasn't just MID asf HE WAS A ROOKIE. ​@almightyderic527

[@eddieillz425]

@@almightyderic527 change who life last time I checked diggs a nobody he had one high light catch with Viking and Sean as the coach what did he do before he got to buffalo? Josh made changes diggs & Sean career around let keep it 100 josh numbers was good before diggs got there

[@ryanshedler4861]

Lamar is 1-1 against Allen in the regular season and 0-1 in the playoffs. Joe Flacco was the QB in 2018 when they are recording Lamar for a win. So Lamar is 1-2 against Allen

[@richstrobel]

I looked it up and that really shouldn't be considered. Allen's first regular season game and Lamar's too. LJ only threw 4 passes.

[@Zappy1210]

2-4 in the playoffs.

[@jerisgibbs5362]

Excluding Mahomes, Josh Allen has the most TDs, most yards and most wins of any QB since 2020. He leads every category. You can mention the turnovers but they’re effectively irrelevant considering he has the most wins of any QB not named Mahomes. The turnovers haven’t been a real detriment to his team’s success.

[@JT2327]

That’s false

[@davidleary4524]

​@@JT2327No it's true. It's DAMN true!

[@dan-ly1je]

Leaving out the fact he leads the league in INTS is crazy

[@jerisgibbs5362]

@@dan-ly1je His INTs are irrelevant. The goal of playing well and being a good QB is to win. He’s won more games than everyone but Mahomes so the INTs aren’t hurting him or the Bills. And he doesn’t throw picks in the postseason, only regular season, so the playoff losses aren’t related to turnovers.

[@fisherfoster6032]

@@jerisgibbs5362he fumbled the damn ball on the final drive vs kc but got bailed out by his te snagging it last second.

[@jd229]

It is blasphemous how bad lamar played in the afc championship game. Lamar hasn't got ALLEN in the playoffs either. Longest pick six in history and left the game injured cause he couldn't run away from a sack

[@JoeyDee86]

I’d take Purdy over Lamar in a heartbeat, unless your goal is to lose playoff games…

[@rfitzpatrick723]

If Lamar was in nfc he would have made super bowl. Purdys best quality is being in a different conference from mahomes. Gives him a chance to make some playoff noise

[@MatthewBretton-cu2el]

Lamar and CMC with Debo , Ayuik and Kittle ... Shanahan calling plays would be unstoppable. Put Purdy on the Ravens with Andrews and a kicker lmao 🤣 that offence would be somewhere between the Steelers and Jets lmao 🤣😂

[@Donth8onme2]

Lamar jackson has the same number of playoff wins as Baker Mayfield. Regular season awards mean nothing if you choke when the moment matters.

[@JKSSubstandard]

It's why Allen has the reputation he does. He's a top 5 QB all time in the 4th quarter and overtime. Top 10 all time in most relevant playoff stats. I believe he might be the leader in scoring all time through his point in his career.....but he hasn't won a ring and he hasn't beaten Mahomes in the playoffs. So instead of all that, he's the turnover guy who chokes

[@JohnDoe33408]

Burrow has the same number of rings as Lamar and Allen combined. He choked when it REALLY matters.

[@Jesus-do1wl]

Lamar is 1-2 against Allen what the hell is that person talking about. Furthermore Allen’s playoff stats and record is way better than Lamar’s

[@AndrewWright1998]

Answering anyone besides Burrow or Allen as best QB after Mahomes is crazy

[@Aneeshtherave]

Not really. What have they done??

[@thewvuguy]

​@@Aneeshtherave Josh allen puts up unreal numbers on a bad team, burrow puts up amazing numbers and has winning records against mahomes and Allen. He also took his historically awful team to the superbowl in his 2nd year

[@Aneeshtherave]

@@thewvuguy that don’t mean anything. Burrow didn’t win the superbowl that year. Also Josh Allen didn’t have a bad team. He had a plethora of skilled players on his offense.

[@Aneeshtherave]

@@thewvuguy Lamar Jackson is the only correct answer.

[@christiangraff5236]

​@@Aneeshtheravelol what have they done? He's been to the afc championship games and 1 superbowl appearance plus winning comeback player of the year. Allen hasn't done anything in the postseason. Burrow is without question the #2 QB in the league

[@barbalato5]

Allen has 20 rush tds more than " the best running qb." This is laughable. Lamar is overrated and Allen is the most dangerous athlete at the position

[@gworld7926]

Most dangerous and had done…..nothing

[@RyanJones-lr2im]

@@gworld7926he’s done more for Buffalo than Lamar has done for Baltimore lmao & that’s a cold hard fact, Lamar wins awards because of affirmative action BS, sit alllll the way the fck down

[@barbalato5]

@@gworld7926 Hes far better than lamar and stays healthy. He outperforms lamar in total yards and TDs and its not even close dude. He also made it to the afc chip 3 years before lamar did and managed more than just 7 pts so... Btw Lamars bs 2nd MVP award has become a joke because his team had the best record. He wasnt even top 5 in Passing and he still had fewer rush TDs than Allen. His first MVP dont even rank Top 30 all time and has been bettered by 5 other QBs, some more than once and they werent even given the MVP in those seasons. Hes overrated and too brittle.

[@rjtherenegade7743]

No he’s not.

[@barbalato5]

@@rjtherenegade7743 He really is..... Lamar is nothing without his legs, he finally got good receivers and always had good RB and defenses. 7 pts in a playoff is a joke for your MVP... Josh had 5 more pass tds, and 10 more rush tds than lamar and at least put up a fight in the big game. Lamar has proven over and over that hes a paper MVP/ good QB. Thats all he is.

[@nobonesaboutit7639]

Since 2019 Josh Allen has 24 more total tds than the next closest quarterback

[@youngboy3571]

Now what about turnovers

[@connorberglund7032]

Allen is a stud, idk why he gets so much hate

[@connorberglund7032]

But also only 7 more than Mahomes over that period. If you include 2018 it isn’t even close as Mahomes had 56 TDs that year

[@spin-rg9ib]

@@youngboy3571 compare Allens record in his first 50 games started of his Career and Mahomes first 50 career starts, The only thing seperating them is rushing yards, Mahomes has like 200 more passing yards, but the TD stats and turnover stats are nearly identical. you put the stats lines against each other and take the names out of it you wouldnt be able to tell them apart. outside the rushing stats

[@orphy6869]

Allen is the best QB in the NFL and has been for 3 years

[@ryandiflavio1853]

He says Lamar has a winning record against Allen, but actually they are 2-2 when you include playoffs. You know, bc allen won in their singular playoff matchup.

[@Stompinwind]

He is also counting a win where he came in late in the 4th quarter leading 47 to 3 and where lamar went 1 for 4 with a 50 qbr

[@BurchyGaming]

Thanks for typing this so I didn’t have too. Caller is insane 😅

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

Caller is out of his mind Allen has DOMINATED Lamar in their REAL head to head matches....

[@trueson5351]

Yal crazy if yal think Allen is better than Lamar

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

@@trueson5351 every stat on the planet says allen is better than lamar....

[@nvmfirezactaylor6035]

Lamar keeps on fucking up in the playoffs over and over. His team's victories have been over Ryan Tannehill and rookie CJ Stroud 💀💀💀

[@JoshAllenIsthenextElway]

The dude had 53 net passing yards in the first half vs the upstart Texans. Fake MVP too

[@jd229]

In the last 4 seasons Josh Allen 2nd in total yards 1st in total tds Only guy beside pat with 4 consecutive division titles Best TD to int in the playoffs Best playoff passer rating in history for a single game More points scored against the chiefs on average in the playoffs than any other team (read: if his defense held up 1 time he would have beat them) Burrow and lamar dont even have 4 full starting seasons how can you compare them to pat and josh? That alone takes them out. Allen has 5 playoff wins to lamars 2. Go watch burrow beating the chiefs vs the 13 second game abd tell me which QB was better vs what defense was better and look at the stats.

[@jakehoganOW]

For me it’s Lamar, but really I feel like good arguments could be made for him, Burrow, and Allen. I wouldn’t actually say that you’re wrong for choosing either of the other two.

[@seanmunninghoff3496]

Why does every person conveniently forget that Burrow went back to AFC championship after losing in the superbowl?

[@shoeless1137]

Because he’s never healthy. I agree at times he is great, but also these days it seems he’s never on the field

[@billwe5772]

@@shoeless1137 Lamar missed two playoffs cause he was hurt... your point just fell apart in front of your eyes. Lamar has no afc championship win and no superbowl appearance just an mvp so the nfl can say they like black people.

[@scruffd0g193]

Because it’s old news, burrow has to stay healthy.

[@shoeless1137]

@@billwe5772 lately Lamar is the one who’s much more healthy consistently. Idc about 4 years ago

[@billwe5772]

@@shoeless1137 4 years ago? The season before last Tyler Huntley played the bengals because poor baby Lamar didn’t want to play? Did you forget about that?

[@TrueSaint916]

It's obviously Purdy. Recognize.

[@caseyp3879]

Burrow was about to go to back to back super bowls lol. Ravens have had super teams with Lamar and he can’t do it. He’s a great qb but his mind is elsewhere during the playoffs where it matters most.

[@BiPolar_BeaR.]

The nfl mvp is a laughable joke now.. bad award.. Truly doesn't mean anything anymore.. Like it used to.. Its ust a popularity contest or To make a certain audience happy

[@jjmadoublen7375]

Became the DEI awards

[@Treemendous_1]

Aaron Rodgers won the MVP twice in a row and just like the rest of these guys choked when it mattered

[@JoshAllenIsthenextElway]

​@@Treemendous_1 Rodgers actually had MVP numbers. That's the difference

[@lo17107]

Ya, it might sound bitter as a Bills fan but I think regular season MVPs are far overvalued when it comes to discussing who the best players are. The MVP is just an award they automatically give to the QB of the team w/ the best record. The Bills' defense was decimated with injuries & Diggs was absolutely sucking, yet Josh dragged the team from out of playoff contention to winning the division & being the #2 seed, but he didn't get consideration. And the Bills came the closest to beating Mahomes of any of the teams that played him this postseason, losing by an easy field goal that a decent kicker would've made.

[@newfoundmoralclarity]

It's Joe Burrow and it's not close

[@adammcneilly11]

LOL classic Ravens fan calling in to cry about Lamar and bring up how he has a winning record over Joe Burrow and Josh Allen. Put up the banner in Baltimore for that if it means so much

[@JohnDoe33408]

Baltimore has more banners than Cinci and Buffalo combined...

[@ClowderOf3]

It’s Allen, Burrow, Lamar in that order. If Burrow stays healthy and goes back to the playoffs and wins, that changes things.

[@almightyderic527]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 is it because they white? Gotta be cause neither won a superbowl and only 1 has a mvp. And burrow is 1-4 vs Lamar and Allens best nfl moment was LOSING to Pat mahomes 😂😂😂

[@ClowderOf3]

@@almightyderic527 notice I didn’t say Allen, Burrow, Purdy. THAT would have been racist. What’s your order?

[@joealese]

last year's MVP was week af. you look at Jackson's numbers and it's nothing that would look like a normal MVP season. he wasn't even in the MVP conversation until like, week 10 and then he had two good games and somehow one MVP off of that. and the caller said that Jackson has a better win percentage over Allen and Burro but neglects the fact that he has a much better team than the bills. without Allen, the bills have nothing. The Ravens could still win with Tyler hutley behind center

[@jtime62493]

If they both retired today, Lamar Jackson goes to the HOF. Josh Allen goes home. Not even in the same conversation.

[@joealese]

@@jtime62493 one of the worst playoff qbs currently in the league vs one of the best playoff qbs currently in the league and you think that Jackson goes to the hall? iight homie you do you

[@Finnissee0122]

He was in mvp convos all year. You ppl are crazy lol. He made the late jump when he out played the remaining candidates.

[@joealese]

@@Finnissee0122 nahhhhhhh you're buggin. the first 6 weeks he averaged 209 yards per game and had 5 touchdowns that is absolutely NOT mvp numbers. in fact, he only had 4 games where he put up more than 250 yards. that's not an mvp qb. he had 4499 scrimmage yards and 29 tds. they were 21st in pass yards and 6th in total yards. the fucking browns had 5 qbs total for more yards than Jackson did

[@jtime62493]

@@Finnissee0122 You're mistaken. The first half of the season the BIlls struggled. Josh Allen had over 20 int's and the Bills had to win out their last 5 games of the season in order to even make the playoffs. Josh Allen had a great 2nd half of the year. Which is why he only got 1/50 votes. So apparently I'm not the only one that thinks that.

[@TomboBrewster]

No-one wants to talk about Nick Wright. Genuinely.

[@ParkerBG]

You clearly do

[@mrsatangto]

He may rub people the wrong way but that dude is smart and one of the best in the business IMO.

[@ajfatca]

@@mrsatangto how is being a massive homer and refusing to listen to anyone else make a point about chiefs that might be slightly negative being one of the best in the business? Hes a clickbait host.

[@tviceman]

@@ajfatca He wouldn't be the homer he is if it wasn't for having the best player, best tight end, and arguably the best coach on the Chiefs. Until the Chiefs can't make a conference championship, most of his takes regarding the chiefs aren't wrong.

[@abneryates4304]

@@ajfatca he continues being right most of the time about the chiefs. you're just mad because you think he's annoying. he should be, because his team keeps winning. and because you find him annoying, one of two things is true: 1) you don't really try to listen to his points and his arguments or 2) you do listen and hear it but you don't want to admit he's often right. don't get me wrong, i don't blame you. it is what it is. annoying people that are right so often must be insufferable.

[@BrunerMJ]

Dude said Burrow went on a Linsanity run as if Burrow didn’t lead the Bengals right back to the AFC title game the following year after starting that year 0-2. C’mon now. Now, I’m a die-hard Bengals fan, and at this moment in time I do think that Lamar Jackson is the 2nd best QB in the NFL. I’m impress with Lamar’s overall talent and greatness. But just as there are questions about Burrow’s durability (which is fine), there are questions about Jackson’s clutchness in a game’s critical moments (which is fine, too). And until one of them wins a Super Bowl first, what’s gonna keep this whole Burrow/Jackson debate going throughout their careers is just that: Durability vs. Killer Instinct. So may the best QB win. 5/14/24 | 12:50 a.m. | EDT

[@benjaminschmitt3225]

Lamar’s OC’s fail him, not the clutch moments. Consistently the best regular season rushing offense in the league and then playoffs start and the whole script changes. You can’t have your RB1 and RB2 have single digit carries combined - you’re asking to fail. Also Lamar didn’t make Flowers fumble on the goal line. Just like everything in sports there’s *** on it, but anyone watching the games cannot blame Lamar’s ability in big games. He gets straight let down by the game plan. Mahomes got the SB this year because after getting clapped by the Raider’s D they figured out to game conservatively. That’s good coaching. Ravens honestly have some pretty poor coaching in big games as of late. Edit: Kansas City Native. We had no business beating Baltimore but thanks Harbs and Monken.

[@Echo__plex]

Burrow peaked in the 2021 season. He'll never get back to the SB.

[@BrunerMJ]

@@benjaminschmitt3225 - All-time great quarterbacks’ legacies are made in the playoffs by overcoming setbacks and hard challenges. Lamar had more total yards against Kansas City in a loss than he did against Houston in a win, but because Baltimore stream-rolled Houston on the ground by rushing for nearly 250 yards nobody noticed. Baltimore knew they couldn’t apply that offensive philosophy against Kansas City. Mahomes and Reid are too smart and talented for that, so they HAD to change their game plan for the AFC title game. And turnovers will happen. Yeah, Lamar didn’t make Flowers fumble on the goal line (which, by the way, Flowers was trying to score when that happened), but Flowers didn’t Lamar fumble in the 2nd quarter or make Lamar throw one of the most boneheaded INT in NFL playoff history either. You can’t put that on the OC. 5/15/24 | 11:45 a.m. | EDT

[@BrunerMJ]

@@Echo__plex - Except Burrow’s 2022 performance was better than his 2021 performance, and if not for that idiot Ron Tolbert giving Kansas City an extra 3rd down in the 4th quarter of a tied AFCCC game and Ossai putting his hands on Mahomes giving Butker a 45-yard FG instead of a 62-yard FG, who’s to say that we wouldn’t won that game. But yeah Burrow *”peaked”* in 2021. So go ahead with your opinion because at the end of the day your opinion ain’t fact. 5/15/24 | 11:55 a.m. | EDT

[@kdr5d]

Burrow has the same amount of touchdowns as Lamar in the playoffs

[@Guamrammer]

Lamar ceiling was last year. He’s done. That game against KC was atrocious. You can call it coaching or just pure poor Qb play. Idk, but he had his shot in front of his own fans and he just flat out disappointed. It was a terrible showing.

[@BigBoss69420]

Watch out for Purdy with Pearsall and a full off season.

[@jessebest5961]

Exactly, last offseason he was recovering from elbow surgery and he still took the 49ers to the Super Bowl and nearly beat Mahomes.

[@whodeynationbaby]

Burrow won the same amount of playoff games in the season AFTER his "Linsanity" run than Lamar has in his entire career, including wins against both the ravens and bills. Calling that a Linsanity run is just a pants on fire, smoking hot, bad take.

[@WumTung]

Burrow also had a lot of help for most of his career. At one point, Chase Higgins and Boyd were considered the best trio of wr in the NFL. He also had a pro bowl back in Joe mixon. Lamar's best receiver his whole career was Hollywood brown. Lamar never had 2 elite wr to throw to, not to mention all the injuries the Ravens had at the RB position the last few years

[@JKSSubstandard]

​@@WumTungand Josh Allen's wrs have been top 5 in the NFL in drops for half his career. QB should be ranked on what the QB does.

[@Aneeshtherave]

@@JKSSubstandardJosh Allen also had a guy named Stefon Diggs.

[@christiangraff5236]

​@@WumTungyea burrow had weapons. But he also had the worst oline in the league and he dragged them to the superbowl. Burrow is #2 in the league and it's not debatable. Playoff record and success is what you measure this off of. Burrow beats all of them

[@WumTung]

@@christiangraff5236 Give Burrow a WR2 as his best wr and a bunch of washed up vets and he's not doing what Lamar did since he entered the league. Burrow has had an elite wr in Chase not to mention they played together in college so chemistry is already there. Burrow top 5 but not top 2. Also he got injuries issues now..

[@wonderifthisistaken1]

Rich - Ravens fans hate Joe Burrow more than they hate themselves which is pretty impressive.

[@RandomGuyAgain]

You can tell the was a Ravens fan on the line lol

[@01eddiekane]

@@RandomGuyAgain and it does make sense It read Arnett from Maryland 🤔

[@kenyatta5ttconjohnsoentcr589]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@brandonsdad9284]

What is Joe Burrows record when he plays against Lamar, it speaks for itself!

[@RickNasty42069YOLO]

That's not true. I don't hate Burrow. He isn't even a threat. But I do hate myself a whole lot.

[@jessebest5961]

Brock Purdy has done everything that he's been asked to do except beat the best QB in the league.

[@rfitzpatrick723]

So he hasn’t done everything he was asked to do then…

[@jessebest5961]

@@rfitzpatrick723 he came back from elbow surgery and performed better than other QBs

[@TrendSettaRico]

Man o man, let's see these takes hold up as this season progresses.....Who Dey

[@getbrainseeds]

facts brrrr is better than mahomes, mahomes just had better coaching and a better o line now that bengals got their o line fixed it's over, not to mention chiefs had the refs

[@andrewambrusko3651]

​@@getbrainseedshow tf is burrow better than Mahomes when he's not won anything and has missed almost half his career to injury? Bruh I need whatever drugs your on

[@Echo__plex]

​@@getbrainseeds 😂

[@davegardner6673]

The fact that Mahomes is so good that you feel the refs are on the chiefs side, just shows that Mahomes is that much better.

[@PhantomLord187]

One thing that people forget is when these QBs were drafted. Being the number 1 pick means you’re literally going to the worst team the year before. Imagine if Burrow was drafted to a team starting with a winning record with an established winning head coach? What Burrow has done for the Bengals I don’t think any of these QBs could have done.

[@brandonsdad9284]

Burrows not even the best player on his team offense, that is Jamar Chase, Lamar is the best player on his team, ouch!

[@chetjablonski1993]

Ah-what Josh has done is try mat amazing. Buffalo was in shambles before Josh arrived

[@PhantomLord187]

@@chetjablonski1993 bengals we 2-14 before burrow. 2 yrs later and his first full season = Super Bowl. Burrows two full seasons, we have a Super Bowl appearance and AFC Championship appearance (of which they destroyed the Bills at Buffalo)

[@jdm1039]

Lamar is 2-2 against Josh Allen including a playoff game. He is 2-1 regular season and 0-1 post season. Allen has far more pass and rush TDs and 7,000 more passing yards and has more post season wins, including one against Lamar.

[@JoshAllenIsthenextElway]

Lamar is 1-2 vs Allen. They didn't play each other in 18

[@alexander0the0gray]

“Yeah you can talk about other networks” *Barely mentions the name Nick Wright* “Thanks for the call Arnette…”

[@krohithreddy]

Is there any beef between the two?

[@vincenttalley5938]

@@krohithreddy I hope so lol. Love Rich & hate Nick.

[@MaRkYWaHoO]

As a chiefs fan…I would want J.Burrow or J.Allen….Anyone after that…ehhh!

[@jeffreywillis4258]

Id take CJ Stroud over Burrow and Allen.

[@salromeri192]

Herbert? Who’s won in KC multiple times, and if his defense could hold a lead at the end of the game he’d have 3 or 4 wins against KC already.

[@user-zn7wc1xv1h]

@@salromeri192 bro lost to T law..............and he threw 4 picks........................... stop. he couldve just ran the ball the entire rest of the game and they would have won........ such a dumb qb maybe run and take a sack and maybe the clock keeeps running. maybe you can win a 27 point lead......... a 20 point lead at half with 3rd Quaarter start...... bahahahahahahahha........... stop

[@AlucardMM]

@@jeffreywillis4258that’s the most insane thing I’ve ever heard, he has one season that’s good and gets blown out the playoffs but he’s over Joe & Josh?

[@jeffreywillis4258]

@@AlucardMM No contest at all really.

[@Gamma_Labs]

"Theres nothing funny about it these days, is it?" lmaooo what a great way to end

[@MaxamillianStudio]

Glock Purdy!

[@kylealmorabi4273]

I love how everyone brings up the Lamar having two MVPs yet they completely ignore the fact Allen is statistically better in every way. He literally almost doubled Lamars total TDs last year, yet somehow the MVP just so happened to fall into his lap. You can miss me with that BS. The disrespect Allen gets is insane

[@TylerFaith-tm1hj]

11 more ints last year, worse QB rating, effectively the same career QBR. Ravens have won 75% of their games with Lamar as a starter. Comparing Lamar and Allen isn’t disrespectful to Allen. Prescott threw more TDs than Allen last year, guess that means he’s better?

[@anthonyambrose479]

Allen’s Gota win

[@kennyjames4679]

@@TylerFaith-tm1hj the Ravens won one more game than the bills with how many more pro bowl players than the Bills had? People need to stop confusing team accomplishments with individual ability. Dan Marino was one of the greatest QBs in NFL history but never won a super bowl. Trent Dilfer won a superbowl. Does that make Dilfer a better QB than Marino? Jackson won MVP because the Ravens finished first in the AFC, not because he produced more than Allen. And the INT criticism is horseshit, when you have double the production, and when you have less help, you will have more turnovers. A good gauge to determine individual ability is to look at how each QB performed against the chiefs in consecutive weeks in last years playoffs, Allen played like superman and Jackson played like Lois Lane against the same exact defense. Jacson put up good numbers and he's a great QB too, but he was helped by a better supporting cast and was asked to do less. When you are asked to do less, you have less ints but you also have less yardage and tds. Against the champion chiefs, it required great play from each teams QB and Allen clearly played better than Jackson because Allen is a better QB that is more capable of carrying a team by himself.

[@Finnissee0122]

It’s because Baltimore is a low volume passing offense. The Harbaugh’s love running the football.

[@Finnissee0122]

It’s because he has better stats from a volume standpoint. Baltimore is a low volume passing offense that wants to run the ball. Lamar doesn’t get as many opportunities and they don’t call his number in the redzone when running the ball.

[@DynastyDayTrader]

We've been so desperate to force a Mahomes vs Someone rivalry. Might as well be Caleb Williams at this point

[@tylerboswell7380]

Lamar is the only QB that's close. 2 MVPs in the last 5 years, especially considering he's only played 3 full seasons, is pretty remarkable.

[@penguinwarcry]

@@tylerboswell7380 Being good outside of facing Mahomes doesn't make him a rival to Mahomes. Burrow and Allen have taken Mahomes to multiple great game finishes and OT games, Lamar consistently lays an egg against the Chiefs.

[@rossdiddy29]

It's coming lol They were saying he's the next Mahomes, his last 2 seasons.

[@anthonyambrose479]

Another Quality season of football is fast approaching

[@razkable]

Burrow has beaten him a couple times

[@jamiebrs1]

Linsanity run? He was not just in the Superbowl, but made the AFC Championship as well. What a bunch of nonsense.

[@Apolitically-Correct]

So excited to read this comments section

[@moose_tracks41]

We’re not talking about team accomplishments. We’re talking about individuals that play the QB position. While Mahomes is a great QB, Josh Allen is a great QB and a unicorn. When he’s on fire, defenses don’t have an answer. The postseason games in which Allen set fire, his performances were negated by other football departments. How Josh Allen hasn’t won an MVP with the kind of numbers he puts up blows my mind. The dude is incredible. History in the making.

[@youngboy3571]

He also turns over the ball more than anybody So it kinda offsets

[@moose_tracks41]

@@youngboy3571 when you’re the most prolific scorer in NFL history, you have the ball a lot. During the span of time in which Allen led the league in turnovers, he also led the league in scoring, and Buffalo won their division 4 straight years. So you could say in most games, Allen’s turnovers are the difference in Buffalo beating you by 6 or by 16. 🤷‍♂️

[@connorberglund7032]

I agree, I gotta put Allen 2nd behind Mahomes. The people that prefer Lamar are crazy in my opinion

[@jamessanders145]

@@moose_tracks41 and even then it's only 3 or 4 more picks than Kermit.

[@moose_tracks41]

@@jamessanders145 It’s negligible because of the overwhelming positives (first downs, TDs, hype, clutch factor, etc) Josh brings to every game.

[@awill3454]

I’m almost positive Lamar does not have a winning record against Allen. They played during their rookie seasons but Allen came in relief of Nathan Peterman and threw like 6 passes in the 4th when the Ravens were up by several scores so that doesn’t count. The Ravens won in 2019 but the Bills won in the 2020 divisional round and in 2022. Might be missing one in there but Lamar most certainly doesn’t have a winning record against Allen.

[@GuRuGuy1]

Lamar is 2-1 against him

[@awill3454]

@GuRuGuy1 Nah you’re wrong, just checked schedules from 2018-2023. Allen is 2-1 vs Lamar.

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

​@@GuRuGuy1LOL no he's not.

[@YouCantMakeThisUp08]

@@GuRuGuy1what, last time they played them they was up 20-3 we came back and won, and playoff game pick 6 to the house.. Bills when

[@9doggie12]

Lamar got hurt in the playoffs lol it still counts

[@VROOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM]

1) Mahomes 2) Allen 3) Burrow 4) Herbert 5) Jackson 6) Stroud 7) Lawrence 8) Love 9) Hurts 10) Purdy

[@philblack3756]

For the life of me, I canNOT understand how folks throw their own criteria completely out of the window for certain QBs. In the SAME sentence and breath, Rich says “while Lamar has the regular season accolades, he only has 2 playoff wins” but proceeds to put Herbert- who only has one playoff APPEARANCE in the conversation. Smdh

[@davwes8594]

Lol lamars had elite team since day one herberts never for a single game had an elite team or coach

[@philblack3756]

@@davwes8594 clearly you are trolling. Or you just don’t know/watch football. Herbert and the Chargers roster has been ranked in the top 5-3 and pre-season picks for the Super Bowl every year since his rookie year. The Ravens agave rarely been discussed, and the WR corps has been bottom 10-15 each year except last. Not to mention they have been without their #1 RB for the majority of 3-4 seasons.

[@rjtherenegade7743]

@@davwes8594Yeah you’re loud and wrong. Shhhhh

[@rickybucheli4264]

Saying Lamar has a winning record over Allen is just wrong. 1) Winning is not a quarterback stat, there are another 52 players on the roster as well as coaches who all need to perform to win. QB is the most important player but isn't solely responsible for all wins or losses. 2) Lamar doesn't even have a winning record against Allen. The Bills and Ravens are 2-2 since they were drafted, but Allen and Lamar didn't start the first game. Since then the Bills are 2-1 and have a playoff win over the Ravens. By every metric except INTs Allen is a much better passer than Lamar, and is overall more valuable for his offense. Allen has 4 straight seasons with over 4000 yards and 40 total TDs. Lamar has gone over 4000 total yards twice, never gone over 3700 yards passing, and had only 1 season with 40 total TDs. If you are a QB wins and playoff wins guy, you should prefer Allen. If you are a stats guy, you should prefer Allen. Lamar's MVPs are impressive. He deserved the first, but last season would have been considered Allen's 3rd worst. Idk how Lamar actually won it.

[@Stompinwind]

Even then he is giving lamar credit for joe flacco leading the team to 47 points 0 of those points were scored when lamar was playing

[@chetjablonski1993]

@@StompinwindThey haven’t beaten Buffalo in 5 years

[@elilucas3361]

Lamar won because he was the QB for the team with the best record. Thats it. Had nothing to do with personal performance, he was average even compared to his first MVP season

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

Allen has like 30 more TDs than anyone else since 2019 and the 2nd most wins since 2018 behind only mahomes. Josh Allen has a passer rating of 100.0 with 2,723 yards, 21 touchdowns and 4 interceptions in 10 games in the playoffs in his career. Lamar Jackson has a passer rating of 75.7 with 1,324 yards, 6 touchdowns and 6 interceptions in 6 games in the playoffs in his career. There's not a single GM in the NFL who's taking Lamar over Allen. Not 1.

[@youngboy3571]

If winning doesn’t matter then why does everyone hold playoff wins against him?

[@TheCephalon]

If you are counting injuries, then sure knock burrow back. But if healthy, burrow is easily ahead of Allen

[@Stompinwind]

Will we ever see a healthy burrow he's addicted to recovery he said it him self, so he's ready to get injured again

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

Lmao, why because of one playoff game where allen played the worst he's played in like 3 years? Go look at the stats. Allen sons burrow in the stat sheets. And he's an Ironman. Burrow is glass. That matters more than anything. Best ability is availability.

[@paulcaruana4090]

Easily????

[@c0wb0yk1dd]

That last statement hurt...

[@chetjablonski1993]

Between Lamar, Josh, Burrow & Mahomes in the playoffs: Lamar is the only one to lose to all of them. The other three have between 1, 2 or all of them in the playoffs.

[@ACTopher315]

Lamar never loss to Burrow in the playoffs. Lamar didn't play in the playoffs that year and Burrow still almost lost to Tyler Huntley.

[@chetjablonski1993]

Lamar has never beaten any of this group in the playoffs nor has he ever shown up. Thr MVPs are just glorified BET social awards these days, 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@steveg1830]

Josh Allen

[@RyanJones-lr2im]

All. Fu*king. DAY.

[@krystalrehorn8216]

All fucking week!

[@voodoorage2710]

All effin month

[@axe2grind244]

The indifference between Mahomes and Allen and everyone else is so absurd its embarrassing to even talk about. Burrow and Lamar couldnt carry Josh Allens golf bag lol.

[@buffalobear2641]

It’s not particularly close

[@joshuadesautels]

"Oh, I don't want to talk about Nick Wright." The 49ers definitely don't see any need to pay attention to Nick Wright, either. Which seems to be driving Nick Wright crazy. But, yeah, I'm a 49ers fan, and I would have had Purdy more like 5th on that list. 2nd is still a bit high right now.

[@TheCephalon]

I’d have purdy around 12th. We have no proof he’s a top 10 guy. Same darnold played as well as he ever did on the 49ers

[@Elliottklassen]

@@TheCephalonDarnold hasn’t even played a single full game. That’s a ridiculous sample size to work off of. At least from Purdy we have a season and a half and two postseason runs.

[@deemity7557]

@@Elliottklassen49ers literally made Jimmy G look good😂. Brock ain’t top 5 or even 10

[@Freddie7191]

Purdy is just slightly better Jimmy G. If they pay him anything more than 30 mil a year, the 49ers are never sniffing another Super Bowl.

[@thatstheway2429]

@@Freddie7191that’s the thing. Niners fans love their guy, which is totally fair. But if he’s a top 5 QB, they should have no issues giving the man 60 million. But lie detector on not a single Niner fan would be willing to do that.

[@bradleyc328]

Who’s a better athlete? Or who plays the position better? Because I’m pretty sure Brock Purdy is the best NFL quarterback right now. The stats don’t lie. Is he the most gifted athlete?

[@benjaminschmitt3225]

The guy with multiple MVP’s probably. Harbs and Roman did Lamar no favors in the playoffs. Monken trolled 2023 vs the Chiefs by not running the ball at all.

[@richstrobel]

Truth. 30 mph wind gusts, they ran the ball very well then decided to just pass it. Went for 2 long field goals which Tucker missed. Bills kicker missed one too. Poor game plan. They should have kept running the ball and gone for it or punted on fourth down when a fg was over 40 yards.

[@jtime62493]

If all 5 of those QB's retired today, Pat Mahomes & Lamar Jackson both go to the HOF.

[@JoshAllenIsthenextElway]

Dude please stop. Lamar is the kordell Stewart of this era. Stop the disrespect to truly deserving hof QBs. It's ridiculous

[@Mr.93.20]

@@JoshAllenIsthenextElway All players with multiple MVP’s are in the HoF, Lamar has had a HoF career and he’s only 26.

[@jtime62493]

@@JoshAllenIsthenextElway Yea I'm sorry but your animosity towards Lamar for whatever reason is just clouding your knowledge of football in general. He's not only the greatest rushing QB of all time but also tied for the most perfect passer ratings in NFL history, one of the only 2 unanimous MVP's to ever play and is easily a first ballot HOF'er if he retired tomorrow.

[@JoshAllenIsthenextElway]

@@Mr.93.20 dude if Lamar was really an MVP QB, the narrative wouldn't be to run more in the playoffs. If he was really that , he wouldn't be so terrible in the playoffs. He didn't deserve MVP last year over Allen

[@JoshAllenIsthenextElway]

@@jtime62493 Jordan love and Stroud were better than Lamar last year dude. Stop

[@ryandempsey4186]

Mvp is now a popularity contest. It's funny the only thing ravens fans can say about lamar is "2x mvp" like that means anything. He has the same amount of playoff wins in his career lol

[@gtr0k]

2 time MVP makes you a hall of famer...

[@poorbob1122]

@@gtr0kso again, you’re talking about voting awards. On the field wins, playoff wins? Where’s Lamar?

[@gtr0k]

@@poorbob1122 playoff wins are a low sample size and tbh a team stat. And don't mean much when you don't actually win an SB.

[@nextbigthing2917]

@@gtr0kNeither does MVP’s they are biased reward

[@gtr0k]

@@nextbigthing2917 And playoff wins are fluky. I guess sports don't mean anything after all eh? Lamar and mahomes are the only 2 QBs under 30 who have already had a HOF career.

[@chetjablonski1993]

The final take is this: Of Lamar, Joe & Josh-who still has a nominal shot of unseating Mahomes???? Only Josh, only Josh

[@stephenhicks5012]

Why is it when people talk about players or coaches they pick and choose how to look at stats. I hear how Lamar has only won 2 playoff games even though he has 2 MVP’s but then I have to hear how great Mike Tomlin is because he has never had a losing record but he has not won a playoff game in almost a decade.

[@Denney17]

Its burrow, hes only played 2 full seasons yet he's accomplished more in the postseason than any of these guys.

[@zacharyharrington1451]

Switch burrow and Allen straight up and Allen has a chip

[@SlimTim222]

Wins are not a QB stat

[@Freddie7191]

The mighty Lamar Jackson, who is so good that everyone complained about him throwing the ball too much in the AFC Championship. If everyone agrees that your quarterback keeping the ball is detrimental to your team's chance of winning, then your quarterback isn't the second best guy in the league.

[@tylerboswell7380]

throwing the ball too much against a defense that was literally in full pass defense. You don't want to do that with any QB.

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

@@tylerboswell7380 allen has done it since 2018. Buffalo faces the least amount of stacked boxes every year.

[@brandonbooth3231]

​@JohnDoe-kh6mt Please stop it. Your team was out of the playoff picture last year when Josh was throwing the ball all over the field. You fired your OC and started running the ball more and you made the playoffs. You have Josh's toothpaste all in your mouth and it's pretty sad.

[@Freddie7191]

@@tylerboswell7380 The Chiefs were 1 on 1 with all the Ravens receivers. They were daring Lamar to throw, and that's exactly what he did. Go rewatch the game if you want, but the Chiefs obviously were not selling out to stop the pass.

[@ryangalambos6089]

How many playoff games has he won? Because Allen has won quite a few more

[@jayhaas3813]

Arnett said "Lamar had a winning record against Josh Allen" lmao bro what games are you watching?!

[@axe2grind244]

Allen and if you were to even suggest someone else you need to either get off the meds or get on them. This is such a absurd question its impossible to take serious.

[@Los150]

Lmao this Allen/Jackson stuff cracks me up. Jackson isn’t in Allen’s stratosphere as a passer or overall scorer. Cut this out. And beat him head to head in the playoffs 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@JohnDoe33408]

Yet one has 2 MVPs the other has literally nothing to his name.

[@BrockLeeCSGO]

@@JohnDoe33408mvp means nothing dude, Allen is so much more talented

[@adampilarski7083]

Don’t overthink this one. It’s Allen.

[@JohnDoe33408]

Not only did you not overthink it, you didn't think at all!

[@bboles9913]

​@@JohnDoe33408as a ravens fan burrow then lamar

[@Finnissee0122]

The only Qb that could somewhat get closer to Mahomes’ resume this upcoming season is Lamar if he wins a ring. He’d have the All pro selection & MVPs on his resume that others would still lack. All pro 1st team at your position should weigh a lot in these debates.

[@caseyhoover2231]

He does not have a winning record vs Allen. He’s 1-2 vs Allen. Allen blows him outta the water dude it ain’t close

[@Coleman.1957]

When Burrow is healthy is goes to Super Bowl… get real… Purdy… Allen over Burrow.??? You boys are tripping or very very thick…?ir simply paid off

[@chetjablonski1993]

Casual

[@bermudabengal]

And Allen has NEVER beaten Burrow ever!!!! but Allen has beaten Lamar twice! Borrow is 5-2 in the playoffs! only losses are SB and AFC champ game!!!

[@Coleman.1957]

@@bermudabengal which we’re both obviously FIXATED on Chiefs winning per referee

[@chetjablonski1993]

Allen has 100 more TDs than Lamar, I can keep going too….

[@JohnDoe33408]

No don't keep going, you might hit the turnovers and MVPs. You stopped just in time.

[@chetjablonski1993]

@@JohnDoe33408more playoff wins, more reg season wins, etc I can keep going. Lamar hasn’t beaten Buffalo in over 5 years. Your boys MVP awards are meaningless…

[@chetjablonski1993]

Josh had 2-1/2x more playoff wins and 21 more total playoff touchdowns. Get outta here kid w/Lamar….

[@JohnDoe33408]

@@chetjablonski1993 Your boy's....uhh well nothing is meaningless because he hasn't won anything LOL.

[@jtime62493]

& if they both retired today, Lamar goes to the HOF. Allen just goes home lol

[@HoPeFuLCheWBaCCa]

The reason the MVPs do not matter for Lamar Jackson as much is not the play-off wins it's because the two years he won the MVP were down years for all the other QBs in the league or major injuries to the other top guys.

[@trevormorton8415]

Why do people keep saying, QB "A" has a winning record against QB "B"? These guys aren't fighting in a cage. Sometimes a QB can do everything right, but the rest of the team under performs.

[@SonofStormblessed]

This is my problem with guys like this, if you have to lie (which he did when he said Lamar has a winning record against Allen, which he doesn't, plus the .500 record they share deserves context. Such as Allen has beaten Lamar twice in a row, and in 1st 2 games in which Allen lost, the Bills were a bad team, yet Lamar team was jacked) to make your point, then your point probably isn't actually valid. If this guy wanted to argue about Lame over Stroud, that's cool. But Lamar isn't a better QUARTERBACK than Burrow or Allen, he just isn't. Lamar has NEVER even come close to having a 4,000 yard season, and had a single season of throwing for 30 or more TDs. All the other guys, except Stroud, have multiple. Oh and Lamar is a playoff choke artist. Lamar has been horrible in the playoffs, while every other QB, including Stroud has played very well in the playoffs. Lamar is a good QB, honestly 6 sounds about right. This guy doesn't actually have the argument he thinks he does. The argument around Lamar is absolutely stupid, it's either people ranking him to low or way too high. And both arguments are garbage. The truth is that Lamar isn't as good of a passer as Burrow or Allen or Mahomes or even what Stroud was as a rookie. But at the same point he is better then most QBs. But for this guy to be upset for people properly ranking a guy just shows that people suck.

[@gtr0k]

Has burrow ever thrown for 35 TDs in a season? Lamar is just as good of a thrower than those guys. He doesn't have Allen's arm, but burrow doesn't have Lamar's arm. Burrow and Allen have better WRs. They all have the same amount of rings, but Lamar has 2 MVPs. Why is burrow better than Stafford?

[@JohnDoe33408]

Triggered so hard you probably sobbed the entire time you wrote that wall of text.

[@jtime62493]

Lamar tied for most perfect passer ratings in history. If all 5 retire today, Lamar & Mahomes are the only ones that make the HOF. Personally would have to take Lamar over Burrow, Allen, Stroud and Purdy 10/10 times especially on Sundays.

[@gtr0k]

@@jtime62493 Lamar has the record for highest completion percentage in a 400 yard passing game. And didnt have an all pro WR like the other guys you mentioned. Hm...

[@gtr0k]

@@jtime62493 not Stroud, but he has diggs and Collins so we'll see if that changes this year

[@kevinhart8339]

At the end of the day... Lamar style of play doesn't lead to victories deep in the Playoffs. It's more of a gimmick offense if you ask me...

[@benjaminschmitt3225]

Raven’s having the #1 rushing attack in the NFL and then giving RB1 and RB2 like 5 carries doesn’t lead to victories deep in the playoffs** It’s not a gimmick.. they just didn’t run the game plan that brought them success all year. Not rocket science. Even Mahomes hands the ball off more.

[@ManicSV3]

As a Steelers fan I'd say stop arguing with"steelers" fans that want Tomlin fired. It's not his coaching those"fans" don't like.

[@tyronelawson8085]

if it's not his coaching then what else could it be 🤷

[@erikpuka2627]

Josh Allen been the best QB in the league since 2020 not named Tom Brady.

[@kingroyalty9621]

Guy is completely right , why don’t yall give Jalen Hurts the same love for making the Super Bowl ?

[@themaverick1898]

Cuz his team was the most stacked out of everyones

[@kingroyalty9621]

@@themaverick1898 so is Burrow , what other QB been playing with 3 #1 wide receivers?

[@themaverick1898]

@@kingroyalty9621 he has had the worst O line out of all of em. Hurts had arguably the best.

[@kingroyalty9621]

@@themaverick1898 man please …is that what the media talk u into believing? lol

[@adamstaples9158]

@@themaverick1898 debatable, Purdy and Hurts clearly had better rosters than the others who lost to Mahomes. And I’m a birds fan.

[@brandongoeckel7752]

What has Joe Burrow done that Brock Purdy hasn't?

[@andersondeca983]

Beat the chiefs, get a heisman, get drafted 1st overall

[@connorberglund7032]

Is beating the Chiefs an accomplishment now lmao

[@thatstheway2429]

@@connorberglund7032beating a dynasty and maybe the best QB we’ve ever seen? Yes I’d say so.

[@zachrhoads2396]

Took a team to the Super Bowl whose previous season only had 4 wins and had not won a playoff game since the 90’s. Purdy is on a stacked team

[@SycoticForeverNeverAF]

@@thatstheway2429No, because he literally fucking LOST the sb lmao. Hang the banner on beating the chiefs

[@RickNasty42069YOLO]

Purdy at 2? Whoever wrote that needs to be fired.

[@Grebby80]

He doesn’t have a winning record against josh Allen bud a quick google search confirms that lol

[@owen730]

If we're talking pure skill and play making ability it's Lamar. And I'm a Bengals fan saying that. But if we're talking about the clutch gene and who you would want in the playoffs, it's Burrow

[@bourbontrail565]

Plus, Jackson might be more suited for radio sports casting and Burrow is TV .

[@owen730]

​@@bourbontrail565 weird comment

[@Stompinwind]

What skill both of them have been carried by their team

[@chetjablonski1993]

It’s Allen

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

It's blatantly josh allen lmao yall are touched in the head

[@JordanT3025]

Burrow has the best head to head record against top QBs. Lamar, Allen, Mahomes.

[@markb3786]

Which makes Eli Manning a better QB than Brady

[@richstrobel]

Ryan Mallett over Roethlisberger too. Mark Rypien over Jim Kelly.

[@ACTopher315]

Lamar is 5-1 against Joe Burrow 😂

[@JordanT3025]

@@ACTopher315 2 of them were against Rookie Burrow and a bad Bengals team 😂. Lamar is trash in the post season doesn’t have much relevance to the conversation. Lamar can’t beat Mahomes or Allen.

[@josephbowers2059]

Burrow

[@lulumelo7929]

Nfl needs to change their standings to rankings 1-32. We are being robbed of great superbowls

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

It's blatantly obvious Allen is #2. No one else has been as consistent. Not even close.

[@zanehubbard]

Allen hasn’t done anything 😂

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

@@zanehubbard he's done more than burrow and lamar both. Consistency availability durability. Stats. He's better in every way.

[@JohnDoe-kh6mt]

@@zanehubbard Allen has like 30 more TDs than anyone else since 2019 and the 2nd most wins since 2018 behind only mahomes. You say allen haven't done anything? Then what's that make lamar? Pure dog water?? Josh Allen has a passer rating of 100.0 with 2,723 yards, 21 touchdowns and 4 interceptions in 10 games in the playoffs in his career. Lamar Jackson has a passer rating of 75.7 with 1,324 yards, 6 touchdowns and 6 interceptions in 6 games in the playoffs in his career. There's not a single GM in the NFL who's taking Lamar over Allen. Not 1.

[@JT2327]

Consistently turning the ball over. Constantly

[@LuhvRaynell_NFLEnthusiast]

@@JohnDoe-kh6mtif he had Diggs would still be there 😂😂😂Joshy is lame

[@boredumb11]

Imagine getting upset about something NICK WRIGHT said🤣😂 The guy is a clown

[@dariusjohnson6013]

Well depends on what metric we are using. Numbers it’s Josh Allen Success its Joe Burrow Accolades it’s Lamar Jackson So depending on what metric you want to use it has to be one of these three guys no one else. Maybe we can throw Matthew Stafford in there because he literally just won a Super Bowl a couple years ago against Joe Burrow so he definitely fits the success argument.

[@Donth8onme2]

I would take Purdy every day of the week and 4 times on Sunday over Lamar...

[@tonymac1224]

This guy talking about how good Lamar is, please, Josh is so much better than Lamar, not even close

[@chetjablonski1993]

Preach good air, PREACH!!!!!!!!!!

[@deanallen7235]

Lamar needs to win something. Until then, he's just a very talented player that chokes under pressure.

[@Octobersown31]

Does allen and burrow choke?

[@JohnDoe33408]

Lamar has more MVPs than those other guys combined may ever win in their lives. And the same number of rings.

[@user-iq6cc3df3l]

Lamar’s playoff record is absolutely dismal. I haven’t looked in a while but I think he’s 1-4 maybe. I mean, Dak Prescott has a better postseason record. I think maybe Cousins’ might be worse but I’d have to look again.

[@josephyohn3100]

Youall missed the most important question: after Mahomes, who would you want to quarterback your team regular season and playoffs. In my opinion Burrow is best after Mahomes. None of the rest out-moxies Burrow. As far as win/loss record, football is a team sport. All of the great quarterbacks with high winning percentages played for great teams. Burrow did the most with the least.

[@Demonized515]

What's criminal is how Allen hasn't won a MVP yet but Lamar get's a 2nd one with a pretty mediocre season last season.

[@davwes8594]

Lol and if ppl actually watched games lamars ball placement was god awful last year, his oline and wr carried that offense completely

[@Finnissee0122]

⁠​⁠@@davwes8594I can tell YOU didn’t watch Baltimore play lol.

[@chedbeckford8067]

I'm taking Jordan Love

[@slapfight5689]

Lamar and Josh have a 2-2 record vs each other. Dunno what this caller was smoking

[@melod7670]

If you worry about pre-season power rankings you got too much time on your hands. The only ranking I care about happens after all the games are played and there is one eventual winner. Theses rankiings are a way to keep people engaged during the dull off-season that is it, they mean nothing.

[@chetjablonski1993]

JOSHUA. PATRICK. ALLEN. The end

[@justinkane2739]

He has accomplished NOTHING at his tenure at the bills other than losing to Mahomes. So him and Lamar are at the same playing field. Burrow is the only one that has beat him so obviously it’s Burrow

[@tomgillotti]

@@justinkane2739isolating an argument to one factor. Debating 101 🙄

[@justinkane2739]

@@tomgillotti it’s the only factor that matters beating the best…

[@tomgillotti]

@@justinkane2739 it’s a major factor, but again, isolation of one factor isn’t appropriate, especially in this instance. Agree to disagree.

[@justinkane2739]

@@tomgillotti okay the other factors? MVPs- Lamar, Most Accurate- Burrow, Running- Lamar, Team Around Him- Lamar, important Victories against Mahomes- Burrow. Josh doesn’t win a single factor against the other 2

[@knytrix]

Lamar Jackson the best QB? That's unfair to other running backs because they don't get to play wildcat.

[@GLA45Amg716]

How does Lamar have a winning record vs Josh Allen ? ??

[@chadroberts6344]

Jackson already hits his heights. When his legs are gone so are his days of being top 10