Chris Simms on why he is lower on Drake Maye | PFF

PFF's Steve Palazzolo and Sam Monson talk to Chris Simms and they ask him to break down why he is lower on Drake Maye then the majority of people.
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[@statisticallysound]

Say what you will about Chris but you can tell he actually watches the tape and does his own assessments. That can’t always be said about the big network NFL pundits

[@troy8231]

Exactly and that can’t be said for the vast majority of draft rankers.

[@MrCgr33]

LOL

[@boyceevans917]

Steve A Smith might not even watch sports

[@0xSpiff]

Conversely, there are other analysts who actually watch a ton of tape too and love Maye. So right or wrong, I wouldn't necessarily ascribe any higher degree of accuracy to Simms based solely on the amount of tape he watches...

[@statisticallysound]

@@0xSpiff oh yeah Maye might be great and honestly I hope he is. I was just speaking in general about Simms’s passion for football. It’s cool to see

[@CJStew06]

He's right-the highlight reel is nice but if you watch a full game it's quite shocking how many throws are way off

[@lukiepookie6227]

His adjusted completion is less than 5% of calebs

[@Kaizer5E]

This is the same guy who said Zach Wilson was "Mahomes-like".

[@TheHighlanderprime]

He said he had similarities. He didn’t say he was Mahomes like. Any QB that goes to get developed with the Jets is doomed. Zach needed to sit a year or two to learn and ease into the position. Jets misread his readiness and ruined him.

[@albinoslug5594]

He also loved Kellen Mond

[@ronaldk.wileyjr.5476]

I respect Chris because his opinions are based on his own film assessment. Assessing talent is difficult & even after that, nobody can assess a persons mental makeup.

[@nicknova703]

That’s the biggest thing right there, all you can do is draft someone that has all the tools that a team wants and HOPE they have the mental fortitude to rise up

[@Phogadacbiet]

Simms bases it off what gets him more clicks. Nothing to do with actual film or talent evaluation

[@mikemyers8683]

All former QBs with the exception of Tim Hassleback have had the same assessment of Drake Maye

[@ivoeenink3860]

Drake Maye has had NFL level QB coaching for years, in high school Josh McCown and at UNC Clyde Christensen (Peyton Manning, Luck, Tom Brady former coach) and still has mechanical issues and mental mistakes, so none of them could fix his flaws? Or is it a case that he just does not learn.. pretty big red flag!

[@mikemyers8683]

This the comment right here!

[@hans8241]

Haha watching this you’d think Steve and Sam also think Drake Maye is overrated. “I think you guys are seeing it the same way I do” They don’t Chris, they have Maye #2 but just couldn’t bring themselves to defend their takes in front of you lol.

[@mull4395]

Was waiting for them to actually defend their guy 😂

[@Mogwai88]

I don't think they wanna get into a debate with a guy who was nice enough to come on their show. They just want to keep it friendly and have him give his opinion

[@nahomwoldesenbet4064]

@@Mogwai88Then what’s the point of him coming if they can’t debate his point. They would have to think that Chris may already know there opinion before he came on. But to just go with the points that Chris said and act like they fully agree is just useless.

[@Mogwai88]

@@nahomwoldesenbet4064 I agree I would've liked to see that, I just don't think it's that kind of show. Don't you think it'd be out of character for them to challenge a guest?

[@tsevere]

@Mogwai88 then why have guests? They can just clip up audio if they want to give their audience his opinion. You have guests to have them expound on their opinions and challenge them where necessary

[@AkamatsuCreative]

Welcome to the 2024 relaunch of the show "Everybody Hates Chris" - NFL Draft version. lol Simms- keep doin your thing! Love these convos, and cheers to PFF for entertaining it. Groupthink is tiring, and unexpected takes are refreshing.

[@Phogadacbiet]

Unexpected takes for the sake of unexpected are incredibly lame. Simms is a hot take artist. His rankings are universally bad, but because he sometimes is right, he can point to that as his track record of “going against the grain.” Guys who are clearly better evaluators: Sikkema, Rogers, Brugler, Cosell, EJ Snyder, Kollman, Solak, Crabbs, Thatfranchiseguy, and Joe Marino (off the top) are all leaps and bounds ahead of simms.

[@AkamatsuCreative]

@@Phogadacbiet "sometimes is right" applies to every single prognosticator on the airwaves. Secondly, saying Simms rankings are "universally bad" is just incorrect. Thirdly, 'ranking' is just an opinion based on one's own metrics. This is exactly why different teams, scouts and pundits rank prospects differently. So there is no "wrong" unless you're talking about mock drafts predicting who will be drafted by which team. I think Simms does a good job of walking through his thought process and defensing his stances, which is what everybody tries to do to some extent. There's no rule that everybody's process has to land on the exact same rankings. Nate Tice has Drake Maye as his Number 1 QB prospect. Doesn't mean he's 'going against the grain for clicks'. It's just his opinion, whether people agree or disagree.

[@Phogadacbiet]

@@AkamatsuCreative sure. Never said that anyone is 100% accurate. However, again, it’s one thing to go against the grain, it’s another to do it, so often, and so egregiously. Having the likes of: MHJ as 3rd, Alt and Fashanu behind Latham, listing Fautanu and Fuaga as guards, Terrion Arnold, Kool Aid, and DeJean not even in the top 5 CBs, and Johnny Newton as the FOURTH best DT, is absolutely insane. Simms Rankings at every position are all over the place. So much so, that yes, I can say they are universally bad. Remember he had Will Anderson, the DROY as his fifth best edge?? How about Jameson Williams over Drake London, Chris Olave and Garrett Wilson? Who could forget Dyami Brown over Jaylen Waddle. And, this guy also ranked Jalen Hurts, a starting nfl QB, out of the top 40 behind the likes of Kellen Mond. Yes, I absolutely can say his rankings are bad. Is universal, hyperbolic? Sure. However, is he wrong WAAAAY more than he’s right? Yes. Lastly, based on his metrics. If his metrics are wrong, this bad, this often, he should adjust. Or, be rightfully called out by people who see through his BS.

[@AkamatsuCreative]

@@Phogadacbiet I should have read your reply more carefully before replying. If you are basing things on just the rankings list, then I highly recommend watching/listening to the actual breakdowns, which are long and detailed, rather than just saying these rankings are against the consensus grain and therefore B.S. Also, think about the timing of the rollout of the mainstream takes on rankings - the majority of these solidified rankings are set months ago because they have to have solidified 'takes' for their media needs,. Then they have have to basically spend months defending them. It sucks for them, actually. Simms doesn't do his evals until Jan/Feb and then watches the prev 2-3 seasons' tape, based on a top 10-20 recommendation from his industry network. So he comes in late and deliberately avoids (according to him) listening to the mainstream takes. My point really is, just listen to the actual process rather than look at the final lists. Unless you think he's just a liar, in which case never mind.

[@Phogadacbiet]

@@AkamatsuCreative mainstream doesn’t take effect until draft season. Case and point - 1. Maye, during the season, had smoke going number 1. It wasn’t until actual scouts started reviewing that Daniels was the odds on favorite at 2 2. Fautanu was a guard until the combine. Every ranking had him listed as such, now he’s a tackle 3. Payton Wilson was a 3rd, at best, prospect due to injuries. He’s now flying up boards after teams have conducted their own evals I have listened to Simms. Repeatedly, I, like him, now avoid listening to clear bias (him). His rationale for ranking Will Anderson so low was, “Well, production… but a lot of his sacks weren’t good” or something to that effect. If every draft analyst can see, on tape, special qualities, but he’s the outlier, doesn’t that indicate a flaw in his ability to actually scout? I fully understand that one poor ranking should not be indicative of his abilities, but it’s egregious. He repeatedly has atrocious rankings, and the rationale is not great. An overly long breakdown of a prospect doesn’t actually mean the insights are better than a screenshot of rankings. I mean, he has BTJ ahead of MHJ because…MHJ doesn’t show up to run block/takes plays off. That’s a horrible take, and really doesn’t require me to listen to anything more, at a minimum, on his rationale for WRs.

[@shaqpac51]

Can someone ask Chris sims what weed he smoking saying josh Allen didn’t have issues like maye. Allen probably had the worst accuracy in that class

[@vitorpeck4458]

Imagine if Phillip Rivers was coming out of College now?? Damn, he would've been torched by these scouts.

[@jesot]

He was pretty torched at the time because of how he threw the ball.

[@sleepyjoeb.8726]

These guys aren’t scouts that’s the problem. All these guys do is regurgitate what they hear. Do you honestly think Sam Monson knows how to break down tape and understand what he see on tape? Hell no.

[@JimmyWashingtonII]

Rivers only knock was the throwing motion and lack of athleticism

[@issacsimental482]

I find it funny how all these things could be said about Drake Maye but can’t be said about Jayden Daniels. It literally took 4 years of starting for him to exceed over 20 TD’s thrown in a season. Say what you will about Drake Maye but his first 2 seasons of starting were better than any of the first 4 seasons of Jayden.

[@pl33]

thank you..saved me the trouble

[@odjendo]

Outside of Williams the qbs in this draft are sketchy unfortunately

[@md.mohaiminulislam9618]

god forbid some qbs improve while others not as much

[@issacsimental482]

@@md.mohaiminulislam9618 He improved staying a 5th year in College not coming out and improving as a pro.. Kenny Picket was the last and you see how that’s turned out?

[@morrowthewizard3945]

Dude Daniels was at a program that got trashed by ncaa his first two years different situation and he changed to harder competiton. Aside what Mayes take giving me pause is he drifts in the pocket to pressure all the time

[@stefanerbar9665]

Great explanatin zu Maye.

[@peterranney9488]

I watched his footage and it screamed Carson Wentz to me. How crazy of a QB draft is it when we have a Carson Wentz comp at QB 6?

[@BTrix3D]

Carson is a backup QB

[@roshan2865]

Pre injury Carson or post injury Carson? Pre-injury Wentz was an MVP candidate

[@bodhisfattva7462]

if wentz didnt get hurt when he did...who knows how good he could have been...his career got kinda derailed...

[@user-ks3ol3lw3b]

One of the top three guys will probably work out, one will probably be a bottom 8 starter, and one will probably be lucky to be a backup. So often, draft guys talk as if every one of them will pan out every year. 1st round QBs are so important because so few of them succeed, so we should be talking about who will bust - it's easier to get right, even if just by chance.

[@Renji26]

I hope Maye proves EVERYONE wrong, he’s got the most bulliten board material than anybody I’ve ever seen coming out of college. If he has a chip on his shoulder the size of his criticism he’ll be great

[@bodhisfattva7462]

he wont be great unless he can clean up his throwing motion and his footwork and I havent seen improvement in that area in the last couple years...and he really does have to speed up his release...slow release qbs dont last long as starters in general...

[@nicknova703]

@@bodhisfattva7462same tired ass talking points, we already got it

[@Big.steppa.reese0]

I mean it’s not like people are just making things up to hate on him. He has real problems and that’s the main reasons why most former QBs are very weary of his film and his ability to become a starter in the league, especially if he’s forced to play right away

[@9etherb87]

​@nicknova703 😂😂😂 man you folks be to invested in people who could give 2 fuks about your life get over It ! Washington is drafting Jayden and New England might not be sold either so get ready 😅

[@Daniel_Capital]

Please, the guy is going anywhere from 2-4 overall, there’s no chip on any shoulder. Brady was drafted 199 and had a chip, rodgers, will levis and countless others had chips sitting there on draft night embarrassed. anaylists said lamar Jackson should be a receiver or rb. Purdy was drafted Mr Irrelevant. Maye has no chip at all, let alone the biggest chip. Get outta here

[@Unicorn-xz7uc]

Right right right right right

[@justinharman9073]

Simms may have missed on Wilson but his evaluation was right. Talents off the charts, but he doesn't get to interview them and see how they are between their ears.

[@user-pb2qw3oc5y]

Stop making excuses for Chris Simms missing the side of the barn with his Zach Wilson analysis.

[@justinharman9073]

@user-pb2qw3oc5y not an excuse, he doesn't interview them 🤡

[@saw12367]

Respect his willingness to not follow the herd. I’m not gonna be dismissive cause he’s been wrong (way wrong 😂) a few times He’s done the film study, knows way more than me and most fans

[@bodhisfattva7462]

everyone is wrong a minimum of 50% of the time with qbs...50% are total failures and should have never had a 1st round grade...

[@_Michael.Knight]

I watch 10 mins of Maye throws and 10 mins of Daniels throws.. and you can t ell Daniels is better.. Maye is not bad, he does seem like with the right coaching and development he will be really good later on

[@kennopalus]

Watch , he'll be the star of the class , the kid is 21 and played 2 years , it's obvious he tried to do to much but, he was the whole team .

[@allfactstv3812]

And got the same stats as the guy he played back up to....and that guy went in the 5th round....and that guy had many of the same issues in college...and that guy sat for a yr in the nfl which maye prolly won't and couldnt correct....sounds like a recipe for disaster

[@kennopalus]

@@allfactstv3812 Funny , both guys took 2 years to flash , your guy took 5 , other 2 has scrubs for the most part . Now compare JD to both of them after his first 2 years ! Yeah , shut the fuck up !

[@haydenrobinson8389]

12 tds 18 ints in 5 years and I’m not talking about Drake Maye 😂😂😂

[@ChuchuJS]

🫣🫣🤫 don’t say it

[@thebigdubnetwork]

He hit it on the head...They've had Maye #2 for 2 years...and they are going to keeping it that way.

[@GammaPlaya]

You guys were gushing about him two weeks again, sure bet number 2! Where’s your conviction?

[@bodhisfattva7462]

because someone who actually knows what an nfl qb is told them where they were wrong...

[@codyb.3015]

@@bodhisfattva7462 They're really soft with guests on arguing, I don't blame them, especially with bigger guests since a lot of people don't like PFF. They're going to have someone on next week who has Drake Maye as number 1, and they'll act the same. It's not like we don't already know their perspective, better to ask about someone else's rather than argue when it's mostly a difference in emphasis on specific positives/negatives of Maye rather than a difference of what are those positives/negatives.

[@levelwithme8535]

@@bodhisfattva7462 He had Hendon Hooker 3, Dorian Thompson Robinson 5, and Will Levis 6 last year. He's no better at evaluating talent than the next guy.

[@GammaPlaya]

@@bodhisfattva7462 your name rules.

[@Shiao3098]

Pats should’ve taken Malik Nabers or Harrison Jr 1st Rd and taken Joe Milton in 3rd or 4th Rd. Drake Maye is giving me Zach Wilson vibes

[@boyceevans917]

Drake Maye is gonna be great

[@bodhisfattva7462]

ya he will win a few championships in the UFL.

[@boyceevans917]

@@bodhisfattva7462 Lmaooo (im not being snarky that legit made me laugh)

[@fernandorangel2840]

Chris is my guy but I don't get that statement ,his a first round pick but not top 3 in draft ,so in how much of a project is he ,if he's a first round pick

[@robe2504]

I agree. There's a compilation of all Maye's plays in 2023 - and he misses a lot of throws, a lot. And most of his best throws are college wide wide open that we rarely see in the NFL.

[@warriorlacrosserocks]

I remember how high he was Mac Jones

[@HLDN1989]

Patriots Fan. Drake Maye is getting overly critiqued. Hopefully he lands in New England. He just turned 21, is the prototypical size (6'4) and has a rocket arm that can make all the throws in cold weather and outdoors in the AFC East in December and January. Is he the finished product, absolutely not, but you are drafting on potential ceiling (Phillip Rivers type) and expecting the coaching staff to develop him.

[@ChuchuJS]

Exactly, let them keep criticizing 😂😂 we gonna get him

[@abrahamanthony7106]

I'm also a Pats fan here in New England and disagree. He's got small hands that'll make throwing in poor weather difficult, his "rocket arm" looks mediocre, and his athleticism is worse than Daniel Jones. This guy has bust written all over him. I just know that when he sucks I"m going to have to hear about how it's coaching, O-line, receivers, anyone's fault but the QB. Just like we did with Mac Jones. Drake Maye got buzz because someone made a comp between him and Justin Herbert like two years ago and now group think has taken over. This comment will be here for future reference.

[@ChuchuJS]

@@abrahamanthony7106 ok better don’t switch up if he turns out good please

[@devonfoster241]

Maye missed literally 2 out of 70 throws at his pro day and he keeps saying it like Maye missed 10-15 throws at his pro day. For anyone who watched all the pro days, Jayden Daniels missed more throws than Jayden on less attempts !!

[@abrahamanthony7106]

"At his pro day." At his most scripted day without pads. And plenty of the remainder of his throws were behind the receivers.

[@creightonc8147]

The money ball quote? No, no, no, you didn’t think that pal, JT O’Sullivan was on a show weeks ago, and said that, it’s one of his quotes he regularly uses, and when they asked JT about Maye, he said you know that Money ball quote, if he’s a good hitter why don’t he hit good? Well that’s how I feel about Maye if he’s a good thrower why don’t he throw good?

[@Big.steppa.reese0]

Maybe you haven’t thought of this but, they both could’ve independently seen money ball and thought of the quote😮Suspend your disbelief but it’s also possible Chris Simms doesn’t watch every other QB evaluators content😨

[@richbenoit3715]

April showers bring Maye flowers to New England!

[@NYJetsForLife2024]

Do you hear whats coming out of your mouth? Hey man maybe your right and have been before, youve also been dead wrong and thats part of the game, but that Zach Wilson take will live in infamy

[@Daniel_Capital]

Blame your dumb jets front office for taking wilson and nuking your franchise. Having smoke for simms makes no sense

[@daya8270]

Like 6th to the Giants! Chris helping the cause lol.

[@brutewarrior]

Like is he not draftable? Round 2-3?

[@bodhisfattva7462]

he is undraftable if you cant afford to sit him for a year or two...if he is then trade back up to 30-32 and take him so you can get that 5th year...but inconsistent play and slow release scare the shit outta me.

[@richbenoit3715]

Make it a good April and draft Maye

[@baldurathustrayggdrasil2420]

Little elf swings from Simm's sack of course.

[@Watashiwaa]

Chris played QB, so I think you would trust his judgement better than the usual inaccurate talking Draft heads or PFF for that matter 😂😂😂

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Drake is Zach Wilson 2.0...

[@lockedonlaw]

I just saw a QB exactly like Drake Maye who could not be fixed get traded to Seattle. His ceiling is a career backup. He was a late round draft pick. Why would I want another one who is an early first round draft pick? I wouldn't. I'm with Chris Simms here. Drake Maye's floor scares the crap out of me.

[@jacobberglin5459]

Maye shows so much more talent on film it’s not even close

[@yepdontcarebud]

"Exact same" Google translate: "they went to the same school, and that's the limit of my expertise"

[@Mogwai88]

In what way are they similar, other than the school? 🔎👀

[@nicknova703]

Great take there helmet scout

[@lockedonlaw]

@@nicknova703 If quarterbacks are so easy to fix, why doesn't every team in the league have a franchise quarterback? @me when you aren't just being a fucking idiotic Drake Maye Stan.

[@JHendo247]

Cool. Drake Maye to Washington #2

[@Daniel_Capital]

As a pats fan, please god yes

[@ciresolstice]

Right. lol

[@franknorth164]

Jealously

[@user-xo2ve5eb8m]

He will fall in the draft and some team will "think" they got a steal until two years from now he is still bad

[@bodhisfattva7462]

if he has a solid pro to sit behind who is willing to help him...he can turn into a beast...but he has to clean up the inconsistencies and speed up his release..I also hate how he moves randomly in the pocket...he moves in the direction of his reads and sometimes moves right into pressure...very scary prospect imo. But worth the shot if you can sit him so he can just work on his weak points without worrying about getting killed on the field.

[@geraldtn3175]

Cant stand simms. No idea if he's right, I lack the expertise to say.. but damn he's unpleasant 😅

[@HTTR.Redskins]

He’s got that entitled spoiled rich kid brat veneer about him. Entitled to smoke dope all day and put little effort into his job. You can tell he rarely watches film. The things he says are bizarre. There’s also no reason to get emotional about your views. Simply state objective opinions. His football IQ is low.

[@intienergia1]

Same guy who said that the Jets should run to the podium for Zach Wilson. Sorry, but he put his credibility on the line and fell on his face.

[@narddog2151]

Yeah it really is a shame that it was the jets, Chris should have known they’d mess that one up

[@scottkalnoske2927]

most people did too - and look at that QB class anyways ...Trevor Lawrence is the only success - and you can google TL vs Daniel Jones first 3 years and they are nearly identical ...TL seems to be a solid QB but he isn't the generational player he was hyped to be.

[@creightonc8147]

Nobody is perfect, but, he also had Stroud number 1, and he was the guy who loved Mahomes and Allen, also loved Herbert, when people were trashing the guy coming out and said he would be a top 3 QB in the nfl. The moment they stopped giving Zach his ADD medication, because it’s banned in the nfl as a performance enhancing drug, along with other places like the Olympics, is the moment Zach got bad. He was a mediocre college QB, and then he went on that medication, suddenly got good, and as soon as he was off it, he got bad. I give him a pass on Wilson.

[@narddog2151]

Yeah I dont defend the wilson pick itself, but his questions about Trevor ended up being the things we still question today. And I do give him credit for being high on Mac and very low on Lance

[@creightonc8147]

@@narddog2151 Yeah I mean nobody is gonna be perfect at this, there is to much projection involved, but at least Simms does the leg work, he watches as much film as he can. A lot of people just talk to other people, or just copy what others say. Like a lot people say Caleb Williams had 33 fumbles in college. The NCAA says 17, Fox 17, ESPN 17, Sports Illustrated 17, yet there are analysts out there saying 33, and the only place I see that number is on Reddit, or some no name sight. The only reason I knew about the Wilson stuff, is because there was a female gymnasts who left the Olympics because they wouldn’t let her take it, and she said she couldn’t perform without out, because she would get lost in the air. So when. I read the piece on Zach Wilson, I kind of put two and two together. But Wilson had good traits. I think it’s hard job when people are like here are 5 QB’s and you work for a network, it’s like you can’t trash them, so they have to tip toe around issues. Cause the NFL wants the draft hype. Oh and rank them, and blah, blah, blah. The 2021 class was a hard evaluation, lots of traits guys, lots of projection. This class I think is easier, just cause, guys like Penix, Daniels, and Nix, have a ton of tape. Caleb has a good amount. The projection and trait guys are JJ, and Maye, and that’s because they didn’t play as much and have less tape. They are more raw guys. A lot is gonna depend on where they land. If you are Caleb it’s like ok, Bears have a defense, an OC who is good with QB’s, Moore, Allen, Kmet, Everett, Swift, alright, I can work with that’s, that’s not bad. Washington at least has a couple weapons, so maybe the guy they draft is like Ok, Kingsbury, a couple of decent WR’s. Not horrible. But if you are Maye, or JJ and New England is like oh boy we gonna draft you. That’s not a good place for a young QB right now. If I’m those two guys I’m like please dear god let the Vikings trade up. Really good coaches, great Oline, Jefferson, a good TE. While Penix and Nix probably feel like they are in better spots, probably hoping to land in Denver. Maybe a team like LA to back up Stafford, worse case is like Vegas, but you still got players to work with there. Maybe Seattle. Teams that could be hard on the players that are more raw like the Pats, or Giants, is scary for them. Jets could draft a QB, Rodgers is in his 40’s. The guys who currently have the best chance of success are the guys going to the best situations. Things could be very hard on JJ and Maye early on. Atlanta would have been another good spot for a rookie QB. Good weapons, good line. But they went with Cousins. Part of projection is where they land. If the Bears land Odunze or Nabers, or Alt… for the first time in 40 years there are worse places for a QB to go other than the Bears. If I’m any of those guys, I’m like, yeah take me, I guess can work with those WR if you twist my arm. Life is a lot easier when you got Jefferson, or Moore, and Allen. It doesn’t mean a guy going to a bad situation is a bad prospect if he struggles. Just means it’s a tough situation for a rookie QB.

[@Flying_High3333]

Drake Maye reminds me of Sam Darnold

[@robe2504]

Sam Darnold is a much more accurate passer. He makes the easy passes look easy. Watch his recent work at the Panthers or 49ers.

[@HTTR.Redskins]

Except that Sam is shorter, lacks his elite arm, processes slow and has zero athletic ability. Aside from that and Sam can’t avoid the rush they are identical twins. Lol. What a joke.

[@robe2504]

@@HTTR.Redskins Wtf? Darnold is 6'3" 225 lbs, has a rocket arm - try watching some of the tight windows he hit with DJ Moore in 2022. Maybe watch Maye missing barn doors all season with NC. Sam led the NFL in rushing TDs for the first half of the 2021 season - like RBs as well. Maybe also watch Darnold avoid many, many sacks behind a dreadful Panthers line for 2 seasons. I'm not sure that Maye is anywhere near as good as Darnold in any of the characteristics mentioned. After watching all Maye's throws and plays in 2023 - I wouldn't be surprised if Maye ends up QB4. His throwing accuracy is terrible at all levels.

[@Tomocohanx]

Sam howell 2.0 needs a few years to sit

[@bodhisfattva7462]

sam isnt as bad in the pocket...he was just short, behind a shit oline and had an idiot as OC...

[@Tomocohanx]

@@bodhisfattva7462 I agree Sam actually looked competent. No first year starter should throw 40 times a game. They got him killed behind that oline

[@HTTR.Redskins]

Sam doesn’t need to sit. After what that trash organization did to him every year will be easy. Grubb is going to love coaching Sam Howell. Sam will thrive immediately in his offense. You are not going to be a backup if you are better than the starter. That’s a main reason for trading Sam. We draft a rookie QB and Sam outperforms them. Sam has been the best QB on his team each year in the NFL.

[@GammaPlaya]

The Pats will draft him, and Zappe will win the starting job again.

[@HTTR.Redskins]

I’m sure Adam Peters is saying to himself that maybe I shouldn’t draft Drake Maye based on Chris’s Simms analysis. I had a 5th round grade on Jayden Daniels. I’ve been going to UNC for years and extremely high on Drak Maye. But, oh boy, if Chris Simms has him at QB6 then so will I. The 10,000+ all purpose yards he put up in only two years is meaningless. Yep, we need to change our draft board immediately. Aside from all the other misses by Chris Simms, that doesn’t matter. QB6 it is.

[@user-pb2qw3oc5y]

I used to listen to Chris Simms, but it's hard to take him serious after his can't miss analysis of Zach Wilson. I mean, c'mon.

[@HTTR.Redskins]

He’s clueless

[@TheHighlanderprime]

Just remember, Zach Wilson was destroyed by the Jets, as much as his lack of readiness to hit the ground running as expected. Just remember, he spent just 2 years playing low end college football. So he needed time like Jordan Love to sit and learn. I’ll judge him after he fails with a team that knows what they were doing.

[@baldurathustrayggdrasil2420]

Dude dumps on Drake because he was pos pro.

[@bodhisfattva7462]

what did he say that is wrong? And how good of an nfl qb were you?

[@HTTR.Redskins]

@@bodhisfattva7462 Chris Simms sucked at QB because he doesn’t know what it takes to be a good QB. Drake Maye is great because he does know.

[@NYJetsForLife2024]

Hes just trying to save his ass, this the same guy who said Zach Wilson was better than Trevor Lawrence, I dont believe it 6??? No way time will tell, but this take nah man, Bryan Thomas I dont hate the wr ranking as much as the drake maye ranking, if you want to say Daniels over Maye im cool with that, but cmon 6?

[@TheHighlanderprime]

Trevor’s still not that great. Zach was too raw and needed to sit for a year or two. And him going to a terrible team when it comes to QB development in the Jets, might have ruined his career potential.

[@hvrjstn]

What would Chris Simms know about being an accurate passer? This loser threw MORE interceptions in the NFL than touchdown passes. Just look at the stat sheet. If he was inaccurate it would show up in the completion %. His completion % is fine. He is talking out of his ass. People compare him to Josh Allen, but Josh had completion % in the 50s. Drake's in a bad year is still mid 60s which is fine.

[@raymondfioramonti4250]

How many touchdown passes did you have in the NFL? Claiming he doesn’t know what he’s talking about because he had a mediocre nfl career while you never sniffed the nfl but somehow your opinion is more valid?

[@exposingtimes9570]

:Hypothetically, Do you think Serena and Venus Williams in their physical/athletic primes could have success playing high school football? Why or why not?

[@EricTams]

Football feels like a bad fit since it doesn’t take advantage of stamina or precision - I’d say that golf, soccer or basketball would be the best fit for that athletic profile.

[@S3rv3nT4p]

No. Bring athletic does not mean you can take a hit from men.

[@dezzyschannel3078]

In this scenario were taking a 100th percentile athletes and putting them against boys who are growing into their bodies. Even if they're women both sisters are still high end athletes, against kids who are maximum 58th percentile. So yes.

[@Whoyouwishyouwere]

​@@dezzyschannel3078the average high school boy throws a baseball miles faster than the world's best girl pitcher. Maybe they can outplay freshmans in high school.

[@rve420]

​@@Whoyouwishyouwere Comparing softball pitching to baseball pitching is an odd choice when the topic was football. Changing the subject to shoehorn what you wanted to say is a common tactic though.

[@TheGuitarded1]

Drake Maye will be the worst of this QB draft class.

[@Zeffpenguin]

Drake Maye will be the best or second best, McCarthy will be the worst relative to where he is picked

[@Whoyouwishyouwere]

Maye will probably be better than Jordan Travis lol

[@garyb7193]

To show us you really can predict the future and not just talking out your ass, how about listing the exact names of first five players picked in this year's NFL draft? or the exact order of top 4 teams in next month's nba lottery?

[@Whoyouwishyouwere]

​@@ZeffpenguinMcCarthy is a late first rounder

[@Zeffpenguin]

@@Whoyouwishyouwere I wouldn't hate him being late first round but I still think that's too early. McCarthy is a prospect that should be drafted by a team with an aging QB. If he was picked up by like the Rams or Seahawks, I would love the pick. If he gets drafted and is expected to start immediately he will bust. The teams that should consider drafting him shouldn't waster first round capitol on him. Late first round isn't the worst place for him to go but I don't think he's one of the top 32 players in this draft

[@Tpqr-qh1wk]

Sims can’t go one week without taking digs at a 21 year old prospect. Perhaps it’s time for him to get a real job.

[@bodhisfattva7462]

where is he wrong? maye does have the slowest release...he is inconsistent with his throwing motion...he moves almost randomly in the pocket sometimes right into pressure...he moves in the direction of his reads...he will one play have an amazing ball the next throw it 5 yards off target into the dirt...he does tend to lock out his front leg... really where was he wrong?

[@leonwright7184]

You do realize Sam digs at Brian thomas Jr every time he is brought up. Trevor Sikema really doesnt like Cooper Bebe as a prospect and says it alllllll the time. All scouts have prospects they 100% do not like. most scouts do not care if they are proven wrong. 90% of the time it has nothing to do with the person, and its just their scouting report man.

[@Daniel_Capital]

@@Tpqr-qh1wkyou just gave your lengthy opinion on Maye, so what qualifies you over Simms? How many years did you play in the NFL? see how dumb your logic is?

[@lukiepookie6227]

⁠@@bodhisfattva7462because his self pressure is less than Caleb, and pretty much the average as everyone else if not less. His adjusted completion is the same as Caleb’s minus 2%, that’s not inconsistent

[@ReyO0]

Simms was so wrong about Zach Wilson. I bought into the Wilson hype, and obviously he sucks…That said I don’t trust the jets offensive coaches and development. Hoping we draft an OT since now with Smith at LT, a young guy can hopefully learn from Smith.

[@brooksfleming7643]

I find it funny a qb who wasnt even better than his father critiques everyone else.

[@zacharyminor9593]

DANIELS IS BETTER THAN MAYE, THIS STARTING TO SOUND LIKE A WHITE QUARTERBACK AND BLACK QUARTERBACK ISSUE. I KNOW FOOTBALL, I GOT EYES, IT'S NO WAY PEOPLE CAN SAY MAYE IS BETTER THAN DANIELS NOW!!! COMMANDERS WILL BE STUPID TO PICK MAYE OVER DANIELS. YOU FANS DEFINITELY DON'T KNOW HOW TO EVALUATE QUARTERBACKS YOURSELVES, YOU LET THE MEDIA DO IT FOR YOU. I LIKE MAYE ALSO BUT HE'S NOT BETTER THAN DANIELS I CAN NAME AT LEAST 7 REASONS.

[@etsidan7003]

Name them then, to me both aren't worthy of the #2 pick, JD is inaccurate, bailed out by stud WRs, he can run & lob it to the corner of the end zone from 20 yards out, that's it. He will be a bust.

[@HTTR.Redskins]

@@etsidan7003 there’s nothing to name. The more I watch of Jayden Daniels the worse it gets. Even his pro day was terrible. He doesn’t know how to lead receivers. The SEC is watered down and without Nick Sabin even more so. I’m from Florida and we’ve been recruited all over the country to smaller schools. Now we go to the big schools. The SEC is an after thought. UF’s defense is terrible. When Daniels does play against good competition he disappears or gets knocked out of the game.

[@zacharyminor9593]

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[@zacharyminor9593]

DANIELS HAS BETTER MECHANIC'S THAN MAYE. DANIELS DOESN'T TURN THE BALL OVER. DANIELS THE BETTER DUAL THREAT. DANIELS HAS MORE EXPERIENCE. DANIELS PLAYED AGAINST TOUGHER SEC OPPONENTS. DANIELS IS THE HEISMAN TROPHY WINNER. DANIELS IS READY TO PLAY NOW. DANIELS PROGRESSED EVERY YEAR FROM ARIZONA STATE TO LSU.

[@etsidan7003]

@@zacharyminor9593 🤔emmmm NO, are you sure you've watch Daniels? Jayden Daniels? the LSU QB Jayden Daniels, they play in Purple & Gold.

[@HTTR.Redskins]

Chris Simms is part of the sheep who hate Drake. No more no less. He thinks he’s a genius for putting him down even farther. He’s a sheep.

[@Elden__lord]

This dude simms said zach wilson was gonna be better than trevor lawrence 😂

[@craigwoodhall8907]

He got stroud right last year, kiper misses all the time and people still listen to him

[@yepdontcarebud]

​@craigwoodhall8907 absolutely no one takes Kiper seriously

[@bodhisfattva7462]

he didnt know he had a 5 cent head on his shoulders...talent isnt wilsons problem...

[@scottkalnoske2927]

Lawrence isn't even that great right now - he did get Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, and Lamar right though vs the rest of the draft community. You have some hits and misses ...if he was always right he'd be given a blank check by all 32 owners

[@Elden__lord]

@@scottkalnoske2927 good job, you have successfully defended his honor