Chris Voss on the Beginning Stages of Becoming a Police Officer - Jocko Willink

[@kmbmakz3]

30 year street cop vet. Two agencies. On SWAT, gangs, undercover narcs, at both agencies and retired with railroad tracks. Good luck out there guys.

[@taylorrollins5576]

“Most departments are running 2 man patrols” is a false statement. Most departments do not have near enough man power for that.

[@BeastinFitness]

Exactly my thought when I heard that. Not in this day and age they don't.

[@andrewminer3308]

1000%

[@wickeywaanzla3015]

You're right about it being false. A person can watch 5 cruisers roll up on a routine traffic stop. A person can be walking and get their ID ran just to check for warrants. A person can watch 8 cops struggle to detain 1 person. It's gotten absolutely absurd. Electing the same fuckin people to make a new law, to counter an old law, that they put in place, that you were already too ignorant to understand. Got so busy rooting for the good guys that you forgot to measure their standards through the years.

[@2K9s]

@@wickeywaanzla3015 Try logic to the op’s point instead of projecting… next time.

[@wickeywaanzla3015]

@@2K9s Try not licking boots.

[@franklange7692]

Thank you men and women who do become police officers ,Thank you.

[@y25151956]

For what

[@franklange7692]

@@y25151956 For what they do for you and me ..

[@valley6824]

@@y25151956for the reason that when you get to call for an emergency we are the ones that show up to help not some randoms. That’s for what.

[@4biddenflow]

@@y25151956for having bigger balls than you to confront the shit they do.

[@stueyphone]

@@4biddenflow but they do a really bad job at it

[@GurlsiLike]

Just graduated academy. Nervous to get on the road next week!

[@thundergrace]

Don't do it. Get another job. You will thank me later

[@aarongoldsmith6659]

Don't listen to Veronica. It's an amazing career and you'll see and get to do things daily the average citizen will never get to do. The career is what YOU make it. Don't listen to the media or social media. I've had more people approach me and thank me in person than people approach me with hate. Also, remember to treat everyone with respect, even the gangbangers and career criminals. Don't be a pushover to them but be respectful. And don't get amped up. It's scarier to be told "If you with fight me I will hurt you" by someone who is calm and collected then some dude screaming it. Plus, if you show you are in control of your emotions, even in a fight, your going to get better support by the public watching from the outside looking in. Good luck and stay safe out there. And do good always.

[@kingjohn3480]

Bro do it ,don't listen to hater and fuck the people that will hate you follow your dream bro

[@genaroperez8896]

I’ve thought about it but I kind of have some personal questions I’d like to ask you about the onboarding/application process like the polygraph test and being honest. I’ve struggled with drug abuse a lot of my life thankfully only weed. Is there any way I could message you and ask you more about the polygraph test? I’ve thought about being an officer but I know it’s not an easy job.

[@GurlsiLike]

@@genaroperez8896 ask away brother. Almost a year later and I’m loving the job! Some hard days but it’s worth it by the end of the week when I get to go home and relax with my family, while being proud of what I’ve accomplished this work week.

[@ilistencanada]

Thank you for sharing what it's like to be a police officer!!!🙏

[@dps6198]

I was a county deputy during the 1980s to early 1990s. I resigned for a position in the IT department of a chemical company for 2.5 times what I was making as a deputy. It is indoor work, Monday through Friday with evenings, nights, weekends and all holidays off. I don't have to deal with the public that disrespects police and complains when we did our job. I am a better man for having worn the badge and gun.

[@pinkydavis6113]

The primary considerations for Law-Enforcement administrators are budget, scheduling, and covering their own ass. However, the needs of the street officer are far more complex. This problem is at the core of many high-profile use-of-force incidents. Until we start holding administrators accountable for failing to PROPERLY prepare their officers, nothing will change.

[@camonly849]

I agree with you, except it's not really on command. Academies have a state curriculum they have to follow for legality purposes. They cannot deviate because those techniques can be defended in court. If the academy staff goes outside and teaches something not backed, you can get absolutely screwed in court. Lawyers fuck us and is the reason why everything is a complete pain in the dick.

[@pinkydavis6113]

⁠My comment was directed at the ongoing training that is supposed to take place long after the academy. Given the number of “experts” who provide such training it’s impossible to expect that any of it will be completely in line with academy standards . Moreover, academy curriculums are nothing more than a quick-start guide for general law enforcement procedures . The real training takes place at the individual agencies. As a use-of-force training provider I have seen administrators thoughtlessly send their subordinates to arbitrary training courses with no real long-term goal in mind. Their primary concern is acquiring a meaningless certificate of training that can be placed in the officers file. This insulates the administrator from liability should the officer malfunction on the street. Therefore, the effectiveness of said training and the qualifications of a given instructor is generally an afterthought. Many of these training programs are heavily flawed, and when they fail to work as advertised, the individual officer is left to twist in the wind. I lay this predicament solely at the feet of the modern law enforcement administrator.

[@camonly849]

@pinkydavis6113 Yes, in that case I would definitely agree...it makes it so they can essentially black list the officer. I agree on all your points tho. I'm fortunate that my department is big enough it can put on its own academy. So the academy that I get is geared towards my department etc. That is nice. I had a 21 week academy and 6 months FTO afterwards...can't believe this guy said he only had 2 months...that's crazy...

[@pinkydavis6113]

@@camonly849 Be well my friend, and keep your head down out there…

[@camonly849]

@@pinkydavis6113 you as well! Take care.

[@RhetroRP]

I personally like 2 man patrols instead of being alone. It’s safer for the officers, and it’s up to each officer to hold the other accountable for any over reaction. Most departments require a minimum of 2 officers to respond to all DV calls. And on most calls, there’s usually 2 or more officers that respond. Now if someone is on Traffic detail, I’d keep it 1 officer by himself. But calls for service in a Metropolitan area, should be a 2 man patrol. Especially on B and C detail.

[@calcal2145]

You must not have any idea of the volume of calls that officers respond to on a daily basis.

[@RhetroRP]

@ I’m in a Metropolitan City. I am completely aware of high volume of calls, and high volume of critical incidents, and a PD that is down in manpower almost 500 officers below their allotted budget.

[@RhetroRP]

And Traffic takes a back burner bc of the volume of calls for service

[@hrdrockfarm8948]

How about the response of the typical criminal when he sees one lone cop? Does that come into play? The more Leo faces you have in any scenario the less likely it will go sideways. End of story.

[@Johnnyo1300]

Mental gymnastics great analogy for wisdom gang mentality seen it sometimes it only takes two so very true when you’re flying solo whole different attitude

[@tjsimpson4744]

Whe is the new JP episode gonna upload?

[@tonysaylc]

I did 10 years as a cop. Never seen 2 man patrols in TX. Only seen it in really big cities like LA and NYC. I prefer solo patrols that why I dont have to worry about what my partner wants to do. Plus, most patrol guys dont like DWI hunting like I did. They usually handed it to me if they ever found one.

[@magnet_rusmagnet7473]

where can I study tests for free, I want to be prepared for the exams, so that later it will be easier for me to pass upon admission. Can you tell me where I can find all these tests?

[@ivancazares1294]

I found a job posting on indeed in the city of Dallas TX and decided to randomly apply. I went in without any preparation, first was a physical test and I passed it next was a written exam and passed it. Now I have a board meeting scheduled for the 30th of September. We'll see how that goes

[@ed24dyt85]

@@ivancazares1294 update?

[@lynkriger]

And you’re talking to a man who never had to police with a body camera on. There is a constant fear of “losing face” in front of the entire world, much less more a partner.

[@camonly849]

A body camera is amazing at times and terrible...I've seen command go back through weeks on someone's body cam footage just to find a reason to write them up. Cursing? "Unprofessional". Like wtf....stop micromanaging for no reason. This job is getting stupid and I'm a cop at the complete wrong time. I'm just there to collect a paycheck and do my time hoping for a better opportunity to come along.

[@barrex5315]

@@lynkriger I worked during an era where body cams were never even thought about

[@bubbatreks]

interesting point but missed an opp there brother. the diff b/w war patrol and street. one is more life/death, the other a big mixed bag

[@kmbmakz3]

With totally different rules of engagement too

[@johnmorganjr769]

🎯 The prevention of 'lost face' syndrome. 👍 Witnessed that. 👍

[@bertvsrob]

the application for detective in britain was a doozy - first question was about how I had helped a minority in the past year.. I could see with the rainbows on the cars and the D.I.E application questions that the career wasn't going to be for me so I bailed

[@camonly849]

Oh my gosh that's insane....that's liberal bullshit if I've ever heard it.

[@honchojefe5611]

I hope you said “I helped myself by wiping my ass this morning…I identify as black.””

[@Getrippedoutofyourmind]

How fast do you have to be to react to a situation?

[@koyle3027]

So keep the cop alone so he is more hesitant to get involved or act yeah that’s definitely is a stat by someone who never leaves a desk chair

[@edwardrio9840]

One man patrols are usually for departments with small man power or shortage of man power ,and even tho it has to be done in those departments one man patrols are tactically inferior to two man patrol’s especially in regards to car stops with multiple occupants or certain calls like domestic calls having a rookie with 2 months experience go out alone is something I am not a fan of there’s is more chances of that rookie making mistakes when not having someone to correct it ,and in the modern times that could lead to termination of employment or worse indictment further if that one man loses his temper in a situation he doesn’t have a partner to intervene ,and stop him from possibly going to far so not a fan of one man patrols

[@barrex5315]

@edwardrio9840 I spent about 98% of my career in single officer patrol, that's just the way it was.

[@dakotagilbert7321]

I am contemplating weather to get an associates degree in criminal justice before joining or after I get the job. I can't decide

[@honchojefe5611]

If the agency you want is gonna take you without the degree then go in first then get them to pay for your degree…most agencies have that education plan for employees. Most agencies require atleast associates first so if that’s the case obviously get the degree. That’s my advice….hope that helps

[@tonysaylc]

CJ degree is worthless. Departments don't care for it.

[@matthewcowan6337]

Hey Jocko what's your take on the spy balloon over Montana? How could it gotten past the radar stations in midway and Hawaii? And what are the possibilities of it having point to point laser targeting system for submarine launch's.

[@idothejabbing5532]

China owns a shit ton of American Land. Probably launched it in Country...

[@jamesalexander8872]

What makes you think it wasn't launched here?

[@Bilbus7]

Propaganda

[@JohnDoe-yu2xw]

Funny how it kinda looks like a space satellite only with a balloon attached to it, aint it?

[@matthewcowan6337]

@@jamesalexander8872 well the news is calling it a spy balloon from China which I've heard from multiple sources mainstream and alt media. Plus the size of it which is bigger than a zeppelin which leads believe that it's not a private citizen cause who the hell would spend that kind of money on that.

[@unleashedHobby776]

Jocko is a cop pocatello idaho

[@hirumbiffidum9145]

He looks and sounds like Dan Grimaldi from the Sopranno's ...

[@patrickoriley6791]

Patsy left his grief behind him.

[@janvyachaslav5903]

Nice ideas.

[@christophermcconnell8946]

I only disagree with most of this. The theme I get but the facts not so much. An officer, a real officer, is more likely to use verbal judo when alone vs. having 5 other officers on scene. First hand experience. Has NOTHING to do with ego and pride but 100% safety.

[@shyryTsr2k]

Yeah idk what this dude’s on about. Looking “cool” or “bad” in front of other officers like it’s fuckin high school is bound to get someone hurt or killed and they know that

[@WizardsPath-if5oq]

I currently have a open court case. I have not been indicted. Its for a felony charge. Can i still become a Police Officer?

[@elvisdejesus303]

Unfortunately no, when they run your background check that’ll come up regardless if you havnt been indicted. Actually my brother has one open too and so after the pt test I received an interview but he received a denial letter and it was more than likely bc of his open case, when they ran his background it was considered “active” so to answer your question, more than likely until you have been acquitted you won’t be able to

[@thundergrace]

I might want to start my own podcast

[@Bilbus7]

Don't it'll suck!

[@thundergrace]

@@Bilbus7 🤣😂🤣😂🤣if i have you on my show it will!

[@Bilbus7]

@@thundergrace Damn Veronica! No chill 😂

[@shawn-the-first.1643]

What are you waiting

[@PandGsports]

This is the type of cop that hated grunts like myself. He can probably type 50 words per minute.

[@jamestaylor5341]

Nah your just a bum who didn't get into college.

[@Faji9r]

@@jamestaylor5341 what is collage for. Does it help you become a better person.

[@Unanythang]

2:37 "The basic 4 chemical hormones that drive us. Testosterone, serotonin, oxytocin, serotonin." Lmfao. I think ya maybe meant dopamine on that last serotonin 😂

[@messagedeleted4307]

Remember...he's a cop, lmfaoo.

[@missdonna9896]

Adrenaline

[@Unanythang]

@@missdonna9896 epinephrine the plot thickens

[@carolinadog8634]

The overwhelming majority of police departments are not running two man patrols. That is completely untrue

[@christophermcconnell8946]

I'd say it is true.

[@Cheeseyman]

@@christophermcconnell8946nope

[@barrex5315]

For what it's worth coming from a 35+ years Law Enforcement veteran, choose another profession. It's not worth it.

[@michaelhernandez1799]

Why

[@camonly849]

Depends on your department and command. Sometimes they don't seem like they're on your side. The job feels like it's meh...chasing people and fighting people is a dream of mine, and I hardly ever get to do it on the job. The job is nothing but cleaning up people's bullshit, red tape, and getting good at typing.

[@raybay7237]

You are one of the bad police that hates body cameras. It sucks watching a police officer act like a butthead and then everyone watches their camera and agrees. It’s obvious when you can hurt people indiscriminately it makes them follow orders and you get the end result you want or you shoot them which was basic police protocol from the 60’s to the early 2000’s. But now citizens can watch a 45min BWC and really break the interaction down in real time objectively. And that most suck for American police because most of them can’t handle the stress and then end up killing a 13 pound blind dog or like the 50% of cops that go home and beat their wives. A guy that speeds doesn’t sound so bad compared to that.

[@justindaniels363]

Why would you say that to aspiring police officers? Shame. Life them up and passed on what you learned. What would be the outcome if everyone took your advice? 35+ to be that close minded is mind boggling to me.

[@justindaniels363]

Lift**

[@shawn-the-first.1643]

🔥

[@magnet_rusmagnet7473]

I also want to work for the government, but my English is bad. Tell me where I could get to work for them with minimal English? But I have an American passport. But I would like to become a policeman and work in a prison.

[@johnnyf3894]

Try border patrol

[@terryharrington2690]

Man factor

[@MichaelJames707]

👑👑

[@ExecutiveZombie]

Ima do the bouncy house… 🏠 They have adult obstacle course and that’s how I train… 💪🏾🇺🇸🧟‍♀️

[@jenx8842]

Good. Like scuba diving. You dive with a buddy. You walk at night, you take your dogs. You approach me the wrong way. I play PMS. Feel me. There's no we in my pants. Badda Bingo.

[@casamir1]

This is poetry and insanity

[@jenx8842]

@@casamir1 My grandfather always said, there's a fine line between genius and insanity depending on where you are. 😊👍

[@firedad7341]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@americanazheck]

I remember attending the police academy in 1984. I was in great shape. I actually won an award for most physically fit. My career always involved being fit. A great appearance demands respect. Alot of the fat out of shape cops are a disgrace. Criminals will not screw woth a fit cop.

[@PRASANTHPR-v1g]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@dripdragon5398]

I’m not sure I agree with the one man is better than two man example.

[@crimsoncrusade2497]

The Corefluxian Passage is opening

[@John-tx5or]

3 or Give Rides. Huberman is awesome... 3 or 4 Whole hours on 0 Learning curve / purpose... Cut it up. Make A School Program. Right is Right.

[@terryharrington2690]

Cops pull up and out number you usually, I got knocked down by 4 just for telling the girl that I would bail her out. I've been in worse with crooked police officers. I always show respect but they seem like they are on a power trip.

[@therulesaredifferent8280]

👍

[@samueljimenez7420]

Yeah the only honest part of this interview was the beginning. At first it is hard to listen to your radio and take in all the other information your processing around you. The rest is crap.

[@almightymachine9930]

FTP FOR LIFE 🫡🖕

[@SpartanFitnessMma1]

Lmfao the becoming a police officer more like suib the police exposing the illegal surviellance and cover ups and exposing them for doing fucked up shit

[@thundergrace]

#Voss is the name of a water.

[@terryharrington2690]

The police department here is crooked as all get go, they are in with our corrupt judicial system up here. Bellaire Michigan. Something has to happen, crooked.

[@xxxxxbriansanchezyyy]

Yeah Don't do it

[@windbuddy1560]

Tru

[@dailyshenanigans4883]

What rational person would even consider becoming a cop? After watching countless body cam videos, I know law enforcement is no longer considered an honorable and respectful profession. Nowadays, it would take a lunatic to ever dream of becoming a peace officer. In reality, there are several KZbin channels dedicated to exposing ignorant cops who are ignorant of the rights citizens have in the United States. Many cops in this country don't even know the laws. I highly recommend taking a screenshot of this list of KZbin channels and then doing a search for them here on KZbin. Because then, you can become more knowledgeable about the tyranny that is taking place in this country. 1. Audit Archive 2. The Civil Rights Lawyer 3. Shields of Shame 4. US - Corrupt Cops 5. Dirty Cops 6. Brutal cops

[@gamerbot101]

Correct, it would take a lunatic to be a cop in today’s world. More the reason to respect the ones that do it because it’s a job that needs to be done for society to function. Without law enforcement you’d be living in a very different world beyond most people’s imagination. Even with the authority to penalize the population for criminal activity, crime is thriving and increasing in almost every state and country for that matter. Now imagine how it would be without police

[@dailyshenanigans4883]

@@gamerbot101 did you watch any of those body cam videos on any of those KZbin channels listed? Obviously not. Because if you did, then you know that there is not one cop out there that deserves any respect.

[@gamerbot101]

@@dailyshenanigans4883 I’ve seen them, every industry and profession has its bad apples. I’ve also seen videos of terrible drivers causing accidents. With your logic, I suppose all drivers everywhere are terrible drivers that get into accidents…

[@dailyshenanigans4883]

@@gamerbot101 give me a break. You can't really be that ignorant.

[@gamerbot101]

@@dailyshenanigans4883 I’ve only had interactions with good officers. Respect is given to be reciprocated back. You want to be a cocky mouthpiece with a camera in an officers face then I’ll guarantee you’ll only have negative experiences. It’s not hard to show a bit of respect and cooperate. Most times I walk away without a ticket, and shake hand with the officer thanking them for their service. Oh and I’m a minority also, BLM is all bs

[@thundergrace]

It has everything to do with race. People

[@Ben-js7kj]

The world is not at it is, it is as you are

[@camonly849]

Go do the job and you'll learn it literally isn't. All people do is assume shit. Ridiculous.