Chris Voss on the Beginning Stages of Becoming a Police Officer - Jocko Willink

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[@taylorrollins5576]

“Most departments are running 2 man patrols” is a false statement. Most departments do not have near enough man power for that.

[@BeastinFitness]

Exactly my thought when I heard that. Not in this day and age they don't.

[@andrewminer3308]

1000%

[@wickeywaanzla3015]

You're right about it being false. A person can watch 5 cruisers roll up on a routine traffic stop. A person can be walking and get their ID ran just to check for warrants. A person can watch 8 cops struggle to detain 1 person. It's gotten absolutely absurd. Electing the same fuckin people to make a new law, to counter an old law, that they put in place, that you were already too ignorant to understand. Got so busy rooting for the good guys that you forgot to measure their standards through the years.

[@2K9s]

@@wickeywaanzla3015 Try logic to the op’s point instead of projecting… next time.

[@wickeywaanzla3015]

@@2K9s Try not licking boots.

[@Johnnyo1300]

Mental gymnastics great analogy for wisdom gang mentality seen it sometimes it only takes two so very true when you’re flying solo whole different attitude

[@ilistencanada]

Thank you for sharing what it's like to be a police officer!!!🙏

[@franklange7692]

Thank you men and women who do become police officers ,Thank you.

[@y25151956]

For what

[@franklange7692]

@@y25151956 For what they do for you and me ..

[@valley6824]

@@y25151956for the reason that when you get to call for an emergency we are the ones that show up to help not some randoms. That’s for what.

[@prohibitions1571]

@@y25151956for having bigger balls than you to confront the shit they do.

[@bubbatreks]

interesting point but missed an opp there brother. the diff b/w war patrol and street. one is more life/death, the other a big mixed bag

[@GurlsiLike]

Just graduated academy. Nervous to get on the road next week!

[@thundergrace]

Don't do it. Get another job. You will thank me later

[@aarongoldsmith6659]

Don't listen to Veronica. It's an amazing career and you'll see and get to do things daily the average citizen will never get to do. The career is what YOU make it. Don't listen to the media or social media. I've had more people approach me and thank me in person than people approach me with hate. Also, remember to treat everyone with respect, even the gangbangers and career criminals. Don't be a pushover to them but be respectful. And don't get amped up. It's scarier to be told "If you with fight me I will hurt you" by someone who is calm and collected then some dude screaming it. Plus, if you show you are in control of your emotions, even in a fight, your going to get better support by the public watching from the outside looking in. Good luck and stay safe out there. And do good always.

[@kingjohn3480]

Bro do it ,don't listen to hater and fuck the people that will hate you follow your dream bro

[@genaroperez8896]

I’ve thought about it but I kind of have some personal questions I’d like to ask you about the onboarding/application process like the polygraph test and being honest. I’ve struggled with drug abuse a lot of my life thankfully only weed. Is there any way I could message you and ask you more about the polygraph test? I’ve thought about being an officer but I know it’s not an easy job.

[@GurlsiLike]

@@genaroperez8896 ask away brother. Almost a year later and I’m loving the job! Some hard days but it’s worth it by the end of the week when I get to go home and relax with my family, while being proud of what I’ve accomplished this work week.

[@janvyachaslav5903]

Nice ideas.

[@tjsimpson4744]

Whe is the new JP episode gonna upload?

[@pinkydavis6113]

The primary considerations for Law-Enforcement administrators are budget, scheduling, and covering their own ass. However, the needs of the street officer are far more complex. This problem is at the core of many high-profile use-of-force incidents. Until we start holding administrators accountable for failing to PROPERLY prepare their officers, nothing will change.

[@camonly849]

I agree with you, except it's not really on command. Academies have a state curriculum they have to follow for legality purposes. They cannot deviate because those techniques can be defended in court. If the academy staff goes outside and teaches something not backed, you can get absolutely screwed in court. Lawyers fuck us and is the reason why everything is a complete pain in the dick.

[@pinkydavis6113]

⁠My comment was directed at the ongoing training that is supposed to take place long after the academy. Given the number of “experts” who provide such training it’s impossible to expect that any of it will be completely in line with academy standards . Moreover, academy curriculums are nothing more than a quick-start guide for general law enforcement procedures . The real training takes place at the individual agencies. As a use-of-force training provider I have seen administrators thoughtlessly send their subordinates to arbitrary training courses with no real long-term goal in mind. Their primary concern is acquiring a meaningless certificate of training that can be placed in the officers file. This insulates the administrator from liability should the officer malfunction on the street. Therefore, the effectiveness of said training and the qualifications of a given instructor is generally an afterthought. Many of these training programs are heavily flawed, and when they fail to work as advertised, the individual officer is left to twist in the wind. I lay this predicament solely at the feet of the modern law enforcement administrator.

[@camonly849]

@pinkydavis6113 Yes, in that case I would definitely agree...it makes it so they can essentially black list the officer. I agree on all your points tho. I'm fortunate that my department is big enough it can put on its own academy. So the academy that I get is geared towards my department etc. That is nice. I had a 21 week academy and 6 months FTO afterwards...can't believe this guy said he only had 2 months...that's crazy...

[@pinkydavis6113]

@@camonly849 Be well my friend, and keep your head down out there…

[@camonly849]

@@pinkydavis6113 you as well! Take care.

[@hirumbiffidum9145]

He looks and sounds like Dan Grimaldi from the Sopranno's ...

[@johnmorganjr769]

🎯 The prevention of 'lost face' syndrome. 👍 Witnessed that. 👍

[@shawn-the-first.1643]

🔥

[@hrdrockfarm8948]

How about the response of the typical criminal when he sees one lone cop? Does that come into play? The more Leo faces you have in any scenario the less likely it will go sideways. End of story.

[@Getrippedoutofyourmind]

How fast do you have to be to react to a situation?

[@unleashedHobby776]

Jocko is a cop pocatello idaho

[@lynkriger]

And you’re talking to a man who never had to police with a body camera on. There is a constant fear of “losing face” in front of the entire world, much less more a partner.

[@camonly849]

A body camera is amazing at times and terrible...I've seen command go back through weeks on someone's body cam footage just to find a reason to write them up. Cursing? "Unprofessional". Like wtf....stop micromanaging for no reason. This job is getting stupid and I'm a cop at the complete wrong time. I'm just there to collect a paycheck and do my time hoping for a better opportunity to come along.

[@firedad7341]

👍🏻👍🏻

[@bertvsrob]

the application for detective in britain was a doozy - first question was about how I had helped a minority in the past year.. I could see with the rainbows on the cars and the D.I.E application questions that the career wasn't going to be for me so I bailed

[@camonly849]

Oh my gosh that's insane....that's liberal bullshit if I've ever heard it.

[@MichaelJames707]

👑👑

[@matthewcowan6337]

Hey Jocko what's your take on the spy balloon over Montana? How could it gotten past the radar stations in midway and Hawaii? And what are the possibilities of it having point to point laser targeting system for submarine launch's.

[@idothejabbing5532]

China owns a shit ton of American Land. Probably launched it in Country...

[@jamesalexander8872]

What makes you think it wasn't launched here?

[@Bilbus7]

Propaganda

[@JohnDoe-yu2xw]

Funny how it kinda looks like a space satellite only with a balloon attached to it, aint it?

[@matthewcowan6337]

@@jamesalexander8872 well the news is calling it a spy balloon from China which I've heard from multiple sources mainstream and alt media. Plus the size of it which is bigger than a zeppelin which leads believe that it's not a private citizen cause who the hell would spend that kind of money on that.

[@koyle3027]

So keep the cop alone so he is more hesitant to get involved or act yeah that’s definitely is a stat by someone who never leaves a desk chair

[@edwardrio9840]

One man patrols are usually for departments with small man power or shortage of man power ,and even tho it has to be done in those departments one man patrols are tactically inferior to two man patrol’s especially in regards to car stops with multiple occupants or certain calls like domestic calls having a rookie with 2 months experience go out alone is something I am not a fan of there’s is more chances of that rookie making mistakes when not having someone to correct it ,and in the modern times that could lead to termination of employment or worse indictment further if that one man loses his temper in a situation he doesn’t have a partner to intervene ,and stop him from possibly going to far so not a fan of one man patrols

[@terryharrington2690]

Man factor

[@therulesaredifferent8280]

👍

[@PandGsports]

This is the type of cop that hated grunts like myself. He can probably type 50 words per minute.

[@jamestaylor5341]

Nah your just a bum who didn't get into college.

[@thundergrace]

I might want to start my own podcast

[@Bilbus7]

Don't it'll suck!

[@thundergrace]

@@Bilbus7 🤣😂🤣😂🤣if i have you on my show it will!

[@Bilbus7]

@@thundergrace Damn Veronica! No chill 😂

[@shawn-the-first.1643]

What are you waiting

[@Unanythang]

2:37 "The basic 4 chemical hormones that drive us. Testosterone, serotonin, oxytocin, serotonin." Lmfao. I think ya maybe meant dopamine on that last serotonin 😂

[@messagedeleted4307]

Remember...he's a cop, lmfaoo.

[@user-ke1qj4nk2z]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@jenx8842]

Good. Like scuba diving. You dive with a buddy. You walk at night, you take your dogs. You approach me the wrong way. I play PMS. Feel me. There's no we in my pants. Badda Bingo.

[@casamir1]

This is poetry and insanity

[@jenx8842]

@@casamir1 My grandfather always said, there's a fine line between genius and insanity depending on where you are. 😊👍

[@Entrepreneur4Class]

If I ever become a police officer I won’t last long I’m street gooner 😂 no radio no support just balls and the craziest persecutions. Personally it feels good to put fear in the heart of bad guys like what’s young man do you think this a game.

[@dripdragon5398]

I’m not sure I agree with the one man is better than two man example.

[@carolinadog8634]

The overwhelming majority of police departments are not running two man patrols. That is completely untrue

[@John-tx5or]

3 or Give Rides. Huberman is awesome... 3 or 4 Whole hours on 0 Learning curve / purpose... Cut it up. Make A School Program. Right is Right.

[@windbuddy1560]

Tru

[@crimsoncrusade2497]

The Corefluxian Passage is opening

[@terryharrington2690]

Cops pull up and out number you usually, I got knocked down by 4 just for telling the girl that I would bail her out. I've been in worse with crooked police officers. I always show respect but they seem like they are on a power trip.

[@xxxxxbriansanchezyyy]

Yeah Don't do it

[@barrex5315]

For what it's worth coming from a 35+ years Law Enforcement veteran, choose another profession. It's not worth it.

[@michaelhernandez1799]

Why

[@camonly849]

Depends on your department and command. Sometimes they don't seem like they're on your side. The job feels like it's meh...chasing people and fighting people is a dream of mine, and I hardly ever get to do it on the job. The job is nothing but cleaning up people's bullshit, red tape, and getting good at typing.

[@raybay7237]

You are one of the bad police that hates body cameras. It sucks watching a police officer act like a butthead and then everyone watches their camera and agrees. It’s obvious when you can hurt people indiscriminately it makes them follow orders and you get the end result you want or you shoot them which was basic police protocol from the 60’s to the early 2000’s. But now citizens can watch a 45min BWC and really break the interaction down in real time objectively. And that most suck for American police because most of them can’t handle the stress and then end up killing a 13 pound blind dog or like the 50% of cops that go home and beat their wives. A guy that speeds doesn’t sound so bad compared to that.

[@justindaniels363]

Why would you say that to aspiring police officers? Shame. Life them up and passed on what you learned. What would be the outcome if everyone took your advice? 35+ to be that close minded is mind boggling to me.

[@justindaniels363]

Lift**

[@thundergrace]

these guys are lying to jocko...😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@samueljimenez7420]

Yeah the only honest part of this interview was the beginning. At first it is hard to listen to your radio and take in all the other information your processing around you. The rest is crap.

[@gwuengr2]

Step 1: have psychopathic tendencies

[@thundergrace]

Voss is weird with his eyes looking up in weird ways.

[@terryharrington2690]

The police department here is crooked as all get go, they are in with our corrupt judicial system up here. Bellaire Michigan. Something has to happen, crooked.

[@thundergrace]

#Voss is the name of a water.

[@dailyshenanigans4883]

What rational person would even consider becoming a cop? After watching countless body cam videos, I know law enforcement is no longer considered an honorable and respectful profession. Nowadays, it would take a lunatic to ever dream of becoming a peace officer. In reality, there are several KZbin channels dedicated to exposing ignorant cops who are ignorant of the rights citizens have in the United States. Many cops in this country don't even know the laws. I highly recommend taking a screenshot of this list of KZbin channels and then doing a search for them here on KZbin. Because then, you can become more knowledgeable about the tyranny that is taking place in this country. 1. Audit Archive 2. The Civil Rights Lawyer 3. Shields of Shame 4. US - Corrupt Cops 5. Dirty Cops 6. Brutal cops

[@gamerbot101]

Correct, it would take a lunatic to be a cop in today’s world. More the reason to respect the ones that do it because it’s a job that needs to be done for society to function. Without law enforcement you’d be living in a very different world beyond most people’s imagination. Even with the authority to penalize the population for criminal activity, crime is thriving and increasing in almost every state and country for that matter. Now imagine how it would be without police

[@dailyshenanigans4883]

@@gamerbot101 did you watch any of those body cam videos on any of those KZbin channels listed? Obviously not. Because if you did, then you know that there is not one cop out there that deserves any respect.

[@gamerbot101]

@@dailyshenanigans4883 I’ve seen them, every industry and profession has its bad apples. I’ve also seen videos of terrible drivers causing accidents. With your logic, I suppose all drivers everywhere are terrible drivers that get into accidents…

[@dailyshenanigans4883]

@@gamerbot101 give me a break. You can't really be that ignorant.

[@gamerbot101]

@@dailyshenanigans4883 I’ve only had interactions with good officers. Respect is given to be reciprocated back. You want to be a cocky mouthpiece with a camera in an officers face then I’ll guarantee you’ll only have negative experiences. It’s not hard to show a bit of respect and cooperate. Most times I walk away without a ticket, and shake hand with the officer thanking them for their service. Oh and I’m a minority also, BLM is all bs

[@thundergrace]

It has everything to do with race. People

[@Ben-js7kj]

The world is not at it is, it is as you are

[@camonly849]

Go do the job and you'll learn it literally isn't. All people do is assume shit. Ridiculous.