Chris Watts vs. Scott Peterson | Adultery & Murder (Uxoricide)

[@Magdalene777]

I'm not convinced the affair with Peterson or Watts was the prime motive. I think both men are sociopaths who don't develop deep attachments to others. I think in both cases the wives were pregnant and they were looking at losing freedom/money, and simply decided to replace their current partner with someone new for a more fun/exciting life. I don't think it was the affair in the sense they weren't any more deeply in love with the new woman than the wives they killed. I think it was more like a child with a shiny new object and eventually the mistress would have been in the wife's place where they were discarded. I think it's just it's not so easy to find someone who would go along with what they want, but if they had gotten away with the killings, down the road probably would have done the same thing with another new woman if they came across someone else who seemed a better match.

[@Magdalene777]

I think the big change was more the motive. They just happened to find someone new at a time they were seeking that. Wanting a big change I believe was the motive.

[@nitagirl614]

You hit the nail in the head

[@sexyblackcharlery]

Yep, great analysis

[@india239]

Had Chris got away with it NK was next in line. After all he would tire of her and if he’d found a guarantee way of getting rid of an encumbrance ....

[@Magdalene777]

@@india239 Couldn't agree more.

[@auntphyllis45]

They are both entitled Momma's Boys who's mothers would rather they have gotten away with murder. Look at the similarities between the way their mothers interviewed for news broadcasts.

[@Nedula007]

What

[@gc8024]

@@Nedula007 Ya. That's what mommy says.

[@gc8024]

You are so very right,,I'm sure they saw signs. Red flags. Ignored them. Son husbands.

[@suzannegarrett2246]

Does anyone have an alternative theory of Lacey Peterson’s Murder? I’m not convinced it was SP - no criminal record, manages to leave nearly zero DNA evidence.

[@raerae2589]

G C lmao, Slenderman case right?

[@tamaramagdalene1000]

And both of them were heavy and lost a lot of weight and started having affairs after losing weight and their personality changed dramatically as if both of them were having an early mid life crisis.

[@scottfamily5963]

I was with someone like this. I think they have the makings of being murderers, they then go through a process that leads to it but some back away, fearing they won't get away with it or coming to terms with balancing double lives. Or finding a more normal solution, if often one that still harms and takes advantage of an innocent person. Malignant narcissists.

[@Tara-id3rk]

My narcissistic (now ex) husband began using steroids when our first child was still an infant then quickly spiraled into a midlife crisis- culminating in having an affair while I was pregnant with our second child with a one year old on my hip. He was 37 at the time. He went absolutely insane. So callous and cruel- when the chris watts case happened I straight up confronted him about being concerned that he would do something similar. Even though that affair was over. He called me the crazy one, of course. I don’t blame the steroids, he has an antisocial/narcissistic personality, but they definitely exacerbated the situation. He felt like he was the hottest thing walking.

[@Ripleys_mom]

@@Tara-id3rk I've noticed that a lot of these weight lifting muscle men are really insecure and build mass to mask it. jmo.

[@Tara-id3rk]

Mary Chambers He was definitely insecure. But since he’s a good looking man, that’s how he charmed people. His personality was otherwise garbage.

[@momentumstocks3493]

Jees..so now any guy that decides to lose weight and get fitter is having amid life crisis? OK..everyone stay fat.

[@pocoeagle2]

Interesting video. You recorded many videos lately. Thank you so much for your time and efforts in doing this Dr. Grande. I enjoyed the videos very much and I'm sure I'm not the only one! Keep them coming 👍

[@reneerenee1783]

I agree. I learn so much from these videos

[@kimwarner1681]

I just discovered these today, I am watching as many as I can. I love psychology.

[@honeybee1888]

Deadly cocktail: PD, juvenile thought processes and problem resolution, pregnant wife, wanting out of the family responsibilities, feeling trapped. Thank you Dr. Grande for another good video.

[@joanlynch5271]

Both were having boys. Maybe they are afraid of the Oedipal complex.

[@DrLuke49]

@@joanlynch5271 what a chilling point.

[@bossdillman7011]

@@joanlynch5271 maybe you already know she's dead and not worrying about little Johny, and a great point

[@cmwillisful]

Both killed their pregnant wives. Neither wanted the baby.

[@terrimichaels3018]

Watts also had two preschool children which compounded the tragedy. Scott Peterson is on death row unlike the other baby killer.

[@cmwillisful]

Yeah. To me, Watts was more evil because he killed his two little girls also...and the horrific way he disposed of the bodies.

[@dulcemoutinho1651]

We are animals in our subconscient. Animals in nature kill the babies a female has with other male so he can pairing with her.

[@terriberri87]

Yep I think the pregnancy is an important part of these crimes

[@wickednwyld]

@@dulcemoutinho1651 - Kind of hard to pair with someone after you kill her.

[@LaMaestra2102]

Thank you, Dr Grande! Let me sum up: Never name your child Lee, Chris or or any other variation of that name, and if your last name is Peterson, change it straight away. Scott, Drew, Michael, etc.

[@almakehlerbrown3935]

Poppy Fields ~ Great point 😁

[@AsiaFBabi93]

There might be something to this... Christian Michael "Chris" Longo killed his wife and his three young children 17 years ago... 👀

[@firstname6822]

Many, many young women who are killed are described by their friends and family as "bubbly." Watch enough KZbin videos and you will hear that description over and over and over. It must mean something; I take it to mean they are the kind of person who appears to put on a happy face and accept everything from everybody--which is basically a way for men who are so inclined to take as permission to mistreat them, abuse them, kill them.

[@ninjacat508]

@@firstname6822 , People pleasers. Narcs fave targets

[@ladylibertywdc8324]

@Gloria Vargo Names can be changed or keep maiden name.

[@wasode20]

Narcissistic discard of object after a new transitional object is sourced ?

[@dottyp137]

A Moore good point! How disgusting though 😔. Poor girls 💐🥀😪

[@mehere8228]

Agree! I believe these 2 women did not understand the full dangers of Narcissism in time to save their lives😔💔 I did not either till watching the videos. My only hope is this information keeps reaching as many people as possible. Thank you Dr Grande.

[@kaym.h.3583]

A Moore. branch monkeys🙊

[@Ladyblue7620]

Why do you call everyone who is bad a narcissist? What if it's asshole syndrome? Please don't mention a diagnosis unless you are a specialist.

[@valerieparker2242]

@@Ladyblue7620 because narcissists are easy to spot. And all are aholes. Btw, quit bossing women around you Mysoginist.

[@zeldagoblin]

On a much smaller scale, according to my observations, there does exist a type of man who attempts a "do over" scenario when divorcing. I've notice many go on to ignoring and cutting off support and contact with their children from their prior relationships, and attempt to re-boot with a new partner. While not nearly as extreme as uxoricide, it beggars belief that someone could reject their own offspring in this way.

[@JimsPal]

Dr. Grande I've been enjoying your analyses and am glad I've subscribed to your channel. It's refreshing to listen to intelligent, well articulated videos. Thank you!

[@katejuricak7941]

Cold, rainy days in Prague gives me the perfect excuse to binge watch Dr. Grande’s videos this weekend🍿 Also- watching all of these before the Netflix documentary comes out next week!

[@OtterMunchy]

i had to watch this video...i love words, and my vocabulary is *comprehensive...* but "uxoricide" is a new one. my autocorrect and alternate-word-option bar had never seen it either...(tried to replace "uxoricide" with exorcism or homicide) this is quickly becoming my favorite channel to listen to when i need intellectual stimulation...often, these days.

[@jerseymusicman3332]

I was wondering what he was saying

[@mmommo-hx4dx]

agreed...just separated 2 years now from a guy who cheated for 35 years.. and fantasized of killing me.....I'm an excellent speller....never heard the word..but had a strong hunch that "Uxoricide!" was a THING!!!

[@hopeausbyn1734]

😴😴😴I found it boring.

[@OtterMunchy]

@@hopeausbyn1734 I’m sorry about that...the Doc is pretty dry. Check out some of his newer vids...this one was from a while ago when his channel was still evolving from dry science to Psycholotainment. (Giggle) If you enjoy true crime, you could try the vids about serial killers. Doctor G is ALWAYS dry, but he warms up a lot over time, especially when he gets more comfortable introducing mild humor to his narrative. I hope you find some vids from the Doc that you enjoy, and if not I can suggest ReignBot and HannahTheHorrible...both are good channels that explore the darkness. ❤️

[@gc8024]

I noticed cw, and Scott's mom were the same. They knew

[@melindadamelio4980]

Thanks!

[@serendipitous_synchronicity]

Dr Grande, thank you for your continued dedication, in helping us understand! 🦋

[@dottyp137]

Since listening to your video on Chris Watts I have been mulling the question over and over in my head ‘how could anybody think that murdering their partner is the most effective way of ending a relationship?!’ The mind boggles 🤷‍♀️😔🤔 Thank you for this Dr Grande. I guess ordinary people could never understand it! How selfish! ( I typed that before you said it!) p.s. my daughter’s middle name is Leigh 🥴.

[@mmommo-hx4dx]

Uxoricide!--never heard of this-im afraid to hear this definition because I lived it for 35 years and I know I'm lucky to be alive.

[@JudeRevolution-c1l]

Thank you so much for your uploads. I'm in therapy right now and making great strides with my CPTSD as I have learnt what I need from my therapy provider through watching your uploads .👍

[@SweetBlackSistah]

I am in love with your mind Dr. Grande! Another great video!

[@raptorexo5029]

I just found that Channel. This Channel is EXACTLY what I was Looking for.

[@nancyjones6780]

This Literature major has a new favorite word: Uxoricide! Awesome word Thanks for that!

[@chiberjuberdourado2487]

Same! I just said out loud to an empty house....hmmmm, uxoricide. I’ve never heard that word. Then I texted it to a friend as word of the day! 😀

[@sundayweiss6776]

Every pod cast you share, is very helpful, having access to your insights and world view is a gift and blessing

[@wanderinghistorian]

Dr. Todd: Both of them had the same middle name...COINCIDENCE? Me: *Gasps* Dr. Todd: No yeah it's just a coincidence.

[@andicantu6490]

LOL There were shiploads of Nicoles and Ambers born in the late 80’s, early 90’s too. Funny that both mistresses have such common names.

[@sweetpea9347]

What’s your last name, huh? 😯

[@sweetpea9347]

Oops mention for Jason. Lol

[@Nikki-jn3ud]

@@andicantu6490 hey! Leave me alone. LOL🤣

[@trimayne7313]

My sociopathic ex-fiance's middle name is Lee. I refuse to think this is a coincidence, darn it!

[@adventurebabyboomer7318]

Hi Dr. Grande! Thanks for your expertise in talking about and explaining mental health circumstances of the human condition. Even some situations that are not so pleasant. You are a consummate professional. Your content is very enlightening, and helps others understand....!

[@kkheflin3]

Dr. Grande.... Thank you! Very enlightening as always. Your clinical experience and education shines through in literally every video you produce. I have been an educator for 25 plus years and have a Master's Degree in both Education and Psychology. I have NEVER heard the terminology "Uxoricide." I've been so arrogant I have assumed I knew almost every word in the English language! When I'm wrong I say I'm wrong!

[@robinrubendunst869]

Dr. grande, did you ever look into the Charles Stuart case in Boston in 1990? It’s so often theme and variation with these men who kill their wives.... what’s amazing to me is that they would prefer to commit murder than to part with their money. And the love and fear about money in this society is really a third character in all of these cases.

[@lisab7977]

Also Michael Fletcher. Lawyer who killed his pregnant wife and was having an affair with a judge. 😥

[@janaeanne7493]

They had even one more connection as one of the main characters in one case googled the other main chapter in the other case.. NK googled Amber Frey to see how much money she had made off of her book deal. NK also asked if people hated Amber Frey. I enjoy your analysis with science based statistics about just how rare these type of murders are.

[@mamabear-9.18.18]

I'm still wondering why this is barely discussed, hardly looked into and was basically overlooked or just something insignificant and unimportant to the detectives in that case. That's just weird to specifically look something up, especially that specific type of content for someone who had "no idea". I often think that when it comes to true crime cases and the infatuation vs interest variable in these cases, can vary depending on the individual. Adding in the mainstream media as another factor (which often tends to glorify them at times), resulting in these "copycat, money hungry, attention &/or thrill seeking" types to come out to get their 15 minutes of fame.

[@winterlynn9012]

@@mamabear-9.18.18 I think the reason it wasn't investigated much is because Nicole Kessigner googled Amber Frey after the murders and once people figured out she was the woman Chris was having the affair with. By that time the media and public were aware there was a mistress and they figured out who she was and were tweeting and speculating that it was possible she was" the next Amber Frey" if I'm not mistaken she googled first "Who was Amber Frey" which its possible she didn't know. (Giving her age Nicole would've been around 14 when the Scott Peterson case was in the media and i was around the same age and while I remember the Peterson case I wasn't familiar with details of it or Amber Frey either ) personally if I saw people comparing me to someone i was unfamiliar with i would Google them as well to see why. As for why she googled how much Amber made on the book can't say for sure but I can't blame her either. If I realized I was suddenly going from a "regular person" to someone in the midst of a high profile case where the media and people in general are suddenly interested in what i have to say i probably would've googled all that stuff too. Can say its in bad taste but it doesn't point to guilt. Now if she had googled that stuff prior to the murders? Yeah I'd say it would be suspicious to say the least.

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

I’m glad you emphasise how rare this type of murder is. These cases are indeed fascinating- but let’s not let them distort our view of marriage.

[@mmommo-hx4dx]

distort? really....its happening left and right!

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

@@mmommo-hx4dx No it isn’t. The US is a nation of about 330 million people. These cases are statistically rare, but media emphasis makes you feel that.

[@americanborn6768]

Too Late

[@462-x5n]

The ones who "get away with it" are not included in that statistic. They only include the men who were convicted. Have you seen the number of "unsolved" homicides in America? It is very difficult to charge/convict ANYONE of murder in America. Sorry to alarm you, but this is MUCH more common than 4 per million.

[@JustineBrownsBookshelf]

@@462-x5n Most people get their ideas about marital murder from the media. If it were really incredibly common for spouses to kill their families, we would all know of such cases personally. If you have the misfortune to have endured such a situation, I’m sorry for it, but it is not common.

[@barbh1]

If one watched the Scott Peterson trial, it's almost impossible to believe he did not kill his wife and baby. Both men were weary of the responsibilities of being a husband and father, and had no moral qualms to commit cold blooded murder.

[@britanny5363ify]

Scott Peterson was never weary of having a child. There’s a lot of rumors but him and Laci tried really hard to have Connor. He wanted that child, but there is an increase in infidelity when a man is having his first child bc they are stressed about it but that doesn’t mean they don’t want it. Scott is innocent. He maintains his innocence.

[@Joonflowers]

Both men also fit the profile for family annihilators - white men in their 30s or 40s. I also notice, I don't know if it's relevant, but both men had girlfriends who were very slender (bearing in mind their wives were pregnant).

[@lisamarielund6292]

@@britanny5363ify He didn't want a kid. Peterson told every girlfriend he ever had that he never wanted to have kids. Please do your research before you spout off about things you don't know about.

[@jerimcgee]

@@britanny5363ify Was he maintaining his innocence as he was dyeing his hair?

[@mattbergseid9196]

@@lisamarielund6292 brittany believes scott is innocent, facts mean nothing to her.......

[@serendipitous_synchronicity]

I've only ever studied "arm chair" psychology. Dr Grande's channel is helping bring together (or discard) much of the random information I've read or watched... 💎 Dr Grande for the psychological science's, is what Professor Brian Cox is for Partical Physics!! Both, Brilliant brains & seemingly humble men!! 💎

[@genxmum5569]

Not unusual. They want to get rid of possession they are sick of.

[@64HomeMade]

Even if Chris watts hadn't killed his wife and daughters and had leftI can't imagine his relationship with Nicole would have been long term seeing as it seemed to have a strong sexual basis. It did seem as if it was a school boy crush, if that makes an sense!! You make the subject of mental health so engaging thank you Dr Grande.

[@momentumstocks3493]

The cycle would have repeated.....5,10 years down the line she would have been discarded as he moved onto his new one.

[@BrendaBaBoom]

Or Nicole would have wound up LIKE’d to death by Chris.

[@anitpoisonp7521]

Exactly. They would have crashed and burned after a few months

[@247KW]

Thank you for your time, your dedication and the research you do to bring us a complete picture of a topic. Love listening to your brain unfolding the analysis at so many different levels. Keep up the educational videos....

[@DrGrande]

You are quite welcome :)

[@beachstreet101]

It’s just very strange. I think many have been cheated on or committed adultery, but resorting to murder is obviously very extreme. What brings it to that extreme is a question mark. To murder someone your mind has to be pretty whacked. It may be more understood that someone that was cheated on has lashed out in an uncontrollable rage against the cheater. We see that all the time from violence, revenge, retaliation on up to murder. What is more unusual is the adulterer is not only cheating on their partner, but they kill their partner on top of that to get them out of the picture. What makes them think they could get away with that is beyond me.

[@bradsanders6954]

Yup. Did Chris really seriously believe he could walk away clean as a whistle after what he did? That part makes no sense. He was in custody in no time, after smiling during an interview he didnt have to give. He acted so oddly the FBI saw the video and he got brought right in. If he pre-meditated the murders he didnt give it much thought.

[@Anastashya]

Extremely interesting analysis Dr Grande. The ‘Do Over’ is an extremely immature motive, but it certainly would explain a reason for the murders. Thing is, it’s difficult to think men or women (if such women exist in these types of scenarios) feel the right to commit murder to gain a completely new life. Just horrific and self entitled in the extreme. Thank you for the great videos lately. Happy Sunday to you! 😊

[@janpierzchala2004]

To gain a completely new life in prison

[@jonathanmthomas2728]

You even hear the detective that was interrogating Chris Watts after he semi confessed to killing Shannan but lying saying it was an act of rage after she killed their kids. The detective said it didn't make sense, he says to Chris what it really sounds like is you have this new life, your in shape now, have a hot new girlfriend it sounds like you were just trying to completely erase your old life. You hit the nail on the head with this one Dr Grande

[@j.m.5620]

As usual, great analysis.

[@camuscat123]

I see this "fresh start" theme with addiction (not all of course!). It seems an extension of denial and avoidance: "This didn't happen. This is not happening." One wants to erase the reality of the past to erase the present reality. In these cases, one had law enforcement who represent an external, very real, and tangible conscience.

[@hrush437]

Excellent presentation on the comparison. Eloquent and unbiased, as always.

[@elliebellie7816]

I get that some people are capable of murdering their significant others, but how, how can they ever take the lives of their innocent children? A helpless little child with no chance of defending themselves. That is something I will never understand.

[@joanneblack7697]

It is so sick! But apparently, narcissists (and psychopaths) think of other people as "possessions", like inanimate objects. I must say though, this guy!! Killing one kid in front of the other! Then telling the second one: Yes, you're next. That is COLD. At least have the decency to give them a drink with some sort of sleeping/ or tranquilizer pill in it first!

[@joanneblack7697]

@@AlphanumericCharacters Point taken. 🎯

[@johnpaul5474]

All the statistics are surprising, but it's good to have them. Thanks.

[@makinglimonade]

Another great video! I love your insight into famous murder cases. the Watts case especially. I agree 100% with you 🤗

[@ncahill7934]

Chris Coleman killed his wife and two boys, eerily similar to Chris Watts. He wanted a divorce but couldn't file for one because of his job, he didn't want to look like the bad guy either. Oh, and he was having an affair.

[@mehere8228]

Let me add this fact to the ones thinking Scott is innocent! Scott went back to the scene of "his crime" caught be police. Scott is the only one who knew where Laci and baby were..thats how they were able to connect Scott to the crime!

[@ninjacat508]

, Let them have their delusions. SP is right where he should be and never getting out. No amount of magical thinking will change that.

[@kathrinjohnson2582]

Thank you for another great video! 😁

[@elisamastromarino7123]

I watched a documentary on Netflix about people who commit the _family wipeout_ (as it's called on the U.K.) and after reading about Christian Longo, Chris Coleman, and these 2 guys you just mentioned, I can't help but wonder why they're _always_ men. The documentary is called _Killer In The Family_ and Laura Richardson, who is a criminal psychologist (I think), narrates and investigates these murders. I couldn't help but notice that they were all committed by men as well. I'm not talking about murder, rather the whole family erased, etc. Thank you Dr. Grande. 👍🌹

[@inspireresilience6413]

I think its men Because there more sexual driven then women people who have high sex drives addicted to sex are linked to criminals which Ted Bundy serial killer expresses how many of the criminals locked up allmostly had sex addictions like cheating having affairs from whatever they can get or watching porn till it bores then leads to higher more sinister sex like pedophilia its discusting how way back in the Uk okayed it to have sex with children i know thats another subject but it does link to your question how its always men who commits these sinister discusting acts due to way high sex drives&as Ted Bundy said &unfortunately alot of these screwed up minds were abused sexually&neglected so... so many of these factors which are complex ends up carrying on that abusive cycle because of unhealed issues they adapted, calloused their hurt heart&pains&normalized it by becoming less empathic&going to the dark side of those sinister acts.

[@iamlight1]

Is higher testosterone linked to violence?

[@inspireresilience6413]

@@iamlight1 I may believe so because some women can have some high testosterone leading to high levels of sex drive or "in heat of passion" as the courts use to dismiss murder cases of spouses due to cheating&crazy shocker fact you can get lots of testosterone from lots of heavy liplocking from all the salava swap lol idk i read some studies about that lol but anyways i believe that of a woman highly sexually active&in high levels of testosterone could play a factor.

[@MrOldboy360]

Great job, you beat me to the punch with the Longo case...I believe that the prime targets when familicide occurs are the children. A man can leave his wife & start a new life but it's not so easy when you have kids because then the connection is much more difficult to break.

[@elisamastromarino7123]

@Lux Fuzzling But neither Diane Downs nor Susan Smith killed their husbands. Taking out the whole family is always done by men.

[@Ruffiansea]

It would be great to join your chat if you have a live stream. (Unfortunately, you'd run into a three hour one, as everybody would have so many questions for you, Dr. Grande). Keep up the great work! 👍😀

[@April18265]

Interesting video and I learned a new word! Thank you again for another exceptional video!

[@ambermcdonald1302]

Technically they both killed their children - Lacy was almost full term, their son had a name, assuming Scott is guilty of killing Lacy he also killed his son.

[@Joonflowers]

In both cases the wife was pregnant. Does that make a difference to the statistics you mentioned?

[@margaretthatcher4315]

Little Miss Muffet yes, women are at higher risk for intimate partner assault when pregnant.

[@godpilled9077]

The number 1 cause of death for pregnant women is murder.

[@JonShade-fy2gm]

@@godpilled9077 So unbelievably tragic.

[@yelloworangered]

I have often read that men set up a new relationship before they move to break off their existing one. I wonder if having a new "love" available made both men more ready to act on a violent impulse, especially since the existing relationship was bringing the financial burden of an additional child. Also, I think although the pregnancy could be said to concern a fetus, it would be all right to say that both men killed their own child.

[@sarahpotts3253]

The way that Chris and Shannon got together - he contacted her out of the blue on Facebook when she was vulnerable (ill with lupus) and they began their relationship - narcissistic red flag. Also love-bombing of Nicole, another narc red flag.

[@gaiaiulia]

I thought about the extra child support stretching out for eighteen years. I'd be surprised if that wasn't a factor.

[@roseannes335]

I lived in Northern California at the time of the Laci Peterson murder, and I automatically assumed Scott committed it due to his seemingly uncaring and cold behavior about his wife being missing. I don't usually assume someone is guilty right off the bat. It was Scott's demeanor. I just knew--very unusual.

[@veror5516]

I also don’t like to assume until I hear all the evidence, but when he was trying to sell Laci’s car and he started using the baby’s room as a storage room...it was then that I believed he was guilty. CW was also trying to sell his and Shannan’s house. Like they’re in such a rush to just hurry up and move on!

[@roseannes335]

@@veror5516 Yeah. It just seemed off.

[@simmick1]

This is a much better analysis than the one you gave for Scott Peterson. However, I am a little biased and I believe Scott Peterson is as guilty as Chris Watts! The reason why Chris and NK's relationship was more intense and more frequent is because they were co-workers. And also lived in close proximity. Amber Frey lived in Fresno CA, and Scott lived in Modesto so they lived further apart and they weren't colleagues. So hooking up would have been more challenging for Scott and Amber. Also most of the affair between Chris and NK was conducted when Shannan was out of town in NC, giving that relationship more opportunity to grow and intensify.

[@veganfeministstrpper]

Narcissistic, enabling, doting mothers. I feel like it’s more powerful than we think perhaps?

[@sarahpotts3253]

Yes, but I think has to be coupled with genetic tendency to have NPD and perhaps also narcissistic fathers? Some people have worse childhoods and don't end up as Narcs

[@carla-de9bx]

Great vid!

[@shelchicago8997]

Dr Grande, would you please analyze Havey Weistein and the culture of enabling that surrounded him? Why do good people ignore or even enable acts they know are wrong?

[@fidelis1480]

The dud was manipulative, part of the psychology. I know manipulative people who have gotten people into the most f*cked up situations and ignore their own intuition.

[@sarahpotts3253]

cognitive dissonance, could even go a long way to explain Chris Watts' behaviour if Nicole was a master manipulator

[@patriciaodoherty1554]

Very interesting facts!Thank you again!

[@mslizzy03]

You brought up the similarities in names, which reminds me that the last name Peterson seems to be overrepresented in high profile murder (husband & wife) investigations (ex. Scott, Drew, Michael). Ive wondered if the media is somehow hypervigilant to this name, is it just a coincidence (afterall 3 isn't really that many lol), or maybe I'M the one who's paying too much attention to it. I don't make anything of it, just an interesting idea. Anyway, I also love playing the "if I got paid a million dollars for making the right choice, which would I choose" game. Thank you for your great videos. I've been binge watching. Would like to hear your thoughts about Michael Peterson (Staircase docuseries)

[@5954ldydi]

This is interesting from a statistical standpoint. I didn't realize these types of murders were on the rare side. I thought it was more common for husband having an affair (during a certain time of their life) to want a new start instead of going the divorce and child support route -especially when you take in their personality traits, etc. Interesting video Dr Grande. I also appreciated your comparison of the two cases.

[@MrGlenn7710]

Great job Dr Grande,..I learn alot from you and you explain it so the average person can understand it.. your video topics are interesting and intriguing to watch and examine as you explain..very smart..thank you for starting your channel..it helps to understand human behavior 💯

[@floratink]

I love your videos and how you look at things logically - very hard to find that here on KZbin. Off topic, but could you possibly do a video on Hybristophilia aka Bonnie & Clyde syndrome? There's a lot of misconceptions surrounding it. A lot of people seem to think its nothing but teenage girls or just women in general feeling this way.

[@francinecormier413]

Thanks for a Great Video

[@JustLoveOneAnother]

What about when you add the factor of the wife being pregnant?

[@kimwarner1681]

I think it made them feel even more trapped, despite the fact they did that themselves. Selfish creeps they are.

[@mmommo-hx4dx]

my ex cheated for 35 years...if I even talked to men he would become seriously agitated...and he wanted to kill me many times (but not because I talked to other men -uh that's half of the human race, I would never cheat, never did) but he wanted to kill me to be with his new lovers...

[@Kangaroojack1986]

The rate of infidelity is more disturbing than the rate of uxoricide

[@annabrahamson4320]

I think greed on the person who wants out of the marriage then they get it all no strings or responsibility.

[@reginarannit391]

I love your videos! Could you do an analysis of Myka Stauffer?!

[@mmommo-hx4dx]

our society thinks cheating is so simple and easy...but obviously its more dangerous than we realize...

[@AsiaFBabi93]

Dr. Grande, as a clinical counseling graduate student, I've found your theories videos helpful more than once, and I really enjoy these! I wonder if you might compare the cases of Chris Watts and Christian "Chris" Longo, who murdered his wife and 3 young children in 2001? Thank you! 😊

[@AngelaBuyck]

They treat the wife and the family like inconvenience.

[@jennifergiannantonio7764]

yes. that's the usual mentality for psychopaths and narcissists. everything and everyone is just simply standing in their way.

[@n3v3rg01ngback]

Wow, there’s a word for everything.

[@outsidersongs2682]

I had an idea. Watts and Shannan maybe put a lot of pressure on themselves to come across as the perfect family and as money got tighter, the pressure to look perfect became greater. Watts may have resented the need to be perfect, and the pressure, and sought to completely destroy that image of the perfect family, including his perfect daughters. Or he may have killed as an attempt to preserve his good reputation, when his wife wanted to leave. He killed all witnesses and expected to get away with it, and then be with his mistress. He is an evil man, disgusting. He bears full responsibility for his callous, inhuman acts. Those poor little girls deserved a good father, that loved and protected them.

[@reneeolson4881]

Thank you Dr. G. Very interresting video.

[@piperian3962]

If you make your spouse work out is it uxorcise?

[@mcd5478]

piperian396 😂 underrated comment

[@wanderinghistorian]

1/4 of all married men commit adultery? That makes me so sad. :(

[@anitpoisonp7521]

Me too. I was cheated and I wasn't even married yet. Not by my husband with someone else. So unfortunate Cheating happens all the time

[@hopeausbyn1734]

Thank you. My head hurts🤕. I could not take in all that information and became overstimulated.

[@teenieneenie630]

Oh, Dr. Grande, you'll never know what it's like to be a survivor(wife) of a husband a (Cop) who's having an affair that '' "You" aren't even aware of as your taking care of (our) daughter who is dying of cancer as a teenager and still working full time only to be told by said husband that "I can't take anymore", and he walks out leaving you to take care of everything so he can be with his mistress. And one night having a lucid dream of being stabbed to death by same husband after he has left. And then being diagnosed within a 3 week period of all that with Stage 3 Cancer. Try going thru all that in a 12 month period and surviving and still having some sense left, tho' not a family as the child died and the husband walked on to live happily ever after. I'm a survivor now twice of Cancer and I really believe that dream was a warning that saved my life, tho' I would have gladly given it up for our daughters life. Chew on that for awhile, sir. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and helping us grow in our understanding tho' Experience still Rules all.

[@sheilamacpherson4948]

Seeing how infrequent this is, how can we not be led to think their wives' pregnancy played a part.

[@joanneblack7697]

Statistics show that the number one cause of death for pregnant women is murder. Not necessarily by husband, as there is often a boyfriend ... or even a jealous third party.

[@Ripleys_mom]

Have you thought of doing an analysis of the OJ Simpson case? I know it's been covered a hundred times but no one has looked at all the factors of the case as you would. You discuss the the revenge motive in uxoricide (although they were separated) There's domestic violence, a celebrity used to getting whatever he wanted and the race defence. I like most people believe he did it. I find it tragic that someone got away butchering two people.

[@Terra_Incognita2004]

I learn so much from your videos!

[@estherkessler]

Your videos are very helpful and interesting

[@walkyourdog6584]

It is interesting that both men had no previous known domestic violence incidents. Maybe there were warning signs for separation and divorce from their respective wives but MURDER??

[@Ascension-wg7bj]

Thank you Dr Grande for putting the statistical information out there. Very interesting to learn about our world.🌏🌎🌍

[@DrGrande]

You're welcome :)

[@toby099]

Chris Watts seemed like more of an introvert and a loser. Scott was very handsome and ambitious, naturally more gifted even though it made no difference in the end.

[@abebuckingham8198]

I've noticed that in several high profile cases where the husband was having an affair and killed his wife that they were part of religious families and communities that strongly stigmatized extramarital affairs. This was true for Chris Watts, Scott Peterson and Chris Coleman each of which were likely to be ostracized if the news of their affairs came to light. I think the social consequences of being honest likely played a role in their decision to murder their wives.

[@dianestumbo3714]

At least Charles Stuart had the decency to take his own life after the guilt got to be to much for him

[@myahollandia3552]

Oh yes the one who killed his pregnant wife in 1990 and blamed a black man.

[@dianestumbo3714]

@@myahollandia3552 yeah it happened in Boston

[@luciuscornelius7177]

I wondered how Watts could live with himself, having known what the unconditional love from his little girls felt like and then knowing he deliberately and painfully ended their lives (with plenty of time on that drive to find a different solution to his perceived problem). Same as with that odious little shite Anthony Todt. I suppose it's an indication of just how deviant they are, that they're able to live with the memories they have before, during and after the murders.

[@shirinjs7557]

Can you please make a video about the connection between ADHD and bipolar disorder. And also the connection between PTSD and bipolar disorder. I first got diagnosed with PTSD and now with bipolar disorder type 2. My brother has ADHD, now I wonder if he might also have bipolar disorder, as we both have similar symptomes. Your videos are very informative. Greetings from Germany :)

[@k.ambriz9789]

Very interesting video. I know about a case where a cheating boyfriend killed his live in girlfriend. She went to school with me and when she confronted her boyfriend about cheating he killed her so there appears to be a related motive in that murder. Very sad case because she was such a nice person and was maintaining their household while he apparently sold cocaine. Her name was Lizzette Fountain.

[@joanneblack7697]

Very sorry to hear this about your friend. I think a lot of these type guys move in with a woman for her house or apartment, her income and in general, a convenient "home base" for their criminal activity. Challenge them ... and they can get very violent. Very sad situation!

[@kimwarner1681]

I agree! I think they both just wanted to start over without paying a ton of money to a lawyer, dealing with ex wives and kids and just move on. They get to play the victim, get sympathy and not lose a dime..they are delusional and selfish. LIke they wouldn't have any problems with a new person? The excitement of their affairs would've been short lived because they are not sharing every day real life and responsibilities with that person. The wife sitting at home is who gets the brunt of it. The piece on the side gets the good time, good mood all the time, happy guy. The poor wife gets the miserable, moody, resentful jerk who forgot what he signed up for. They are both right where they belong. May they have a long, long life.

[@clasijuls1]

I love your videos Dr Todd

[@MsRaysuns]

Both of these cases are so sad to me I’m 43 years old both these men were so young so many secrets 😢😢

[@iamlight1]

ouch, that rate of infidelity is high! And the investigator's name was Tammy Lee also. How is that word you're using different from "Mariticide"? Thank you, Dr. Grande. I like that you remain open and objective. I too think there is room for reasonable doubts when it comes to witnesses and the burglary. The statistics were helpful ♥

[@DrGrande]

Thank you so much! - mariticide is a wife killing a husband and uxoricide is a husband killing a wife (uxor is latin for wife)

[@iamlight1]

@@DrGrande Ah, thank you for the clarification. :)

[@reneerenee1783]

Thank you for sharing this. Very educational 📚

[@kimwarner1681]

What do you think of the Darlie Routier case? Would you do a segment on that?

[@carolynfischer2809]

It is important that males stop thinking with the wrong head. It is important that females stay away from men who are not divorced. Both of these men got what they wanted......a big change in their lives.

[@zOOmzity]

The fact that both wives were pregnant, it seems likely that neither man wanted the child. So that could have been part of the motive to get rid of the wife in both cases. Especially if psychopathy was involved.

[@stephaniealexander3314]

Thank you again! Do you think NK was involved or was perhaps a catalyst?

[@deekayvixen]

The Patrick Frazee case might be another interesting one... although he wasn’t married to his victim. Coincidentally enough, his girlfriend’s name is Krystal Lee..........

[@DrLuke49]

Adultery does not necessarily lead to murder since most people simply divorce their partners then move on. Murder is usually premeditated then carried out in cold blood.

[@catherinerobertson6031]

The Jeffrey McDonald case where he killed his pregnant wife and two small daughters reminds me of the Chris Watts case.