Atomos Shinobi 2 // An Upgrade with issues.

In this video, I’ll show you the all-new Atomos Shinobi 2 monitor. It’s been totally redesigned and now lets you control and power your camera straight from the screen. Whether you’re filming or taking photos, this monitor makes everything easier.
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[@hunktubes]

I hate the on-off button on all their products. But I went for the Shinobi II because of the potential like touch to focus. Thanks for the super nice review Chris.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Thanks for watching. I wish they’d change to a switch!

[@Hobbies4Hire]

Great job on the video Chris! Thanks for making it. Once I finally started using an external monitor, I don't know how I lived without it. I'm currently using a Ninja5 (or my Xperia phone) and my only real complaint is that since I'm a big believer in capturing audio on-camera, the fan noise from the Ninja is always picked up by the shotgun mic. Not a problem for my wireless or boomed mics, but annoying whenever I want to just use a forward-facing mic. I am very intrigued by the power sharing abilities of this monitor, and the lack of a noisy fan does appeal to me.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Thanks for watching

[@benjhaisch]

Pretty stoked on this concept. The Ninja is great but the extra weight was usually overkill. If they add touch tracking for AF for all the cameras I use, I’ll probably grab one. Looks like a good solution, depending on how efficient they are with smaller batteries.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

The smaller batteries still suck, literally. They suck all the power.

[@Superjeanmarc]

Thanks for mentioning the ridiculously long start up time... For a documentary filmmaker shooting a lot of vérité , this is a dealbreaker.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Yeh it’s not fast

[@benharveyphotography]

I purchased a few weeks ago, my first external monitor for my A7iv. Very impressed with it so far and very handy with my anamorphic lenses and shooting with phantom LUTS. Those small rig batteries are out of stock everywhere right now though!

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Oh really? They must be popular

[@Jae_MaV]

They're available on Amazon

[@kylemckenna]

Did you upload the ATOMOS Phantom LUTS or the normal ones?

[@benharveyphotography]

@@kylemckenna I uploaded the standard Phantom Luts and they work just fine. I managed to get the small rig battery in the end, they came back in stock. I went for a bright orange one, why not!

[@Luke_van_de_Rest]

​@@benharveyphotographydid you enable the legalize option?

[@arthurhusken]

Hey Chris, thanks for the review. Does it come with the adapter for power delivery that you slide in the battery compartmentment like with the NinjaV? Grtz Arthur

[@matthijsdedeugd]

Nice that it charges the camera battery, I could use my v-mount with D-tap to NPF dummy to charge the monitor. And use usb-c for camera control/camera power. If they fix the autofocus it's a no-brainer 👌🏻

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Fingers crossed

[@SmartVideoBE]

actually you cant. i mean you wont be able to charge the internal battery of your camera while using it. thats what i thought and what i did, but the usb c out is only 13w output so its not outputing enough juice to keep your camera on and it uses the internal battery instead… so no point other than control. As i said… i’ve tried…. failed.

[@MartinMonkDotCom]

​@@SmartVideoBE Could you elaborate? There was absolutely no power draw from Camera and it purely used internal battery? Which camera did you try this with? Thanks.

[@georgemorganphotography9714]

@@MartinMonkDotComfollowing

[@mistagooner]

Chris, what would be amazing is if you did an up to date video. There has been a lot of people complaining about overheating issues. Would be good to have your honest review on this topic. I personally have also had issues not being able to update the firmware of my monitor. I’m on the brink of returning it.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

I’ve had zero issues with overheating since I got it

[@Superjeanmarc]

Very detailed and clear as usual Chris, thanks. There is one thing though that I wish you had tested in your review, it is the option to use the monitor as a “bridge” when powering the camera via a V-Lock battery.. I always power my FX3 via USB-c from a V-lock as I don’t want to have an NPF attached to the back of the monitor. (Also want to use only one type of battery for the entire rig). I heard that there might be a power drain.. meaning that despite having the monitor connected with PD to the camera, the internal Battery of the FX3 still slowly depletes … can you test and report? Thanks again !

[@benjamin.kelley]

If it has a brighter output, touch tracking autofocus, custom function buttons, and metal outer construction with mounting points on all four sides instead of just the top and bottom, I'd buy it immediately.

[@Whaever_1981]

I much prefer powering the monitor via V mount battery (much less frontal camera weight)

[@mbvisualproductions]

I love mine! Paired with the battery eliminator, leads to a very nice and light cable managed setup. The monitor has even taken away my need for a second Dtap cable. The clean setup comes with the price of a few less features, but the camera control sold it for me. This really wasn't released to replace your old atomos, but simply to offer an upgrade from the previous model. I'm looking forward to the touch focus update coming soon.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Me too! The touch focus is the biggest ask for a lot of people

[@maloveliko9716]

Does it overheat you sony when using camera control? I experienced overheating while using the Np battery and charging sony through the monitor…

[@BrandonTalbot]

I just returned mine. Which sucks because in nearly every way it’s a substantial improvement over the previous generation. The screen size is very small because of those damn bezels: I returned mine because despite being a compatible camera I could never get mine to start or stop recording, change the shutter. I tried updating the software multiple times and I never got the monitor to update. Maybe in 6 months these bugs will be fixed

[@affordablemediaproductions1]

What camera do you have?

[@BrandonTalbot]

@@affordablemediaproductions1 S5II

[@paugonzalezfilms7924]

Hi Chris, thanks for this review. I have a question regarding ways to power. Could you: Power and control the camera via the USBC port. Supply the power from a NPF-DUMMY to D-tap plugged into a V-MOUNT. Inside the camera I would have a NP-FZ100 just in case. Would that work, and you'd get full camera control + power? Cheers dude!

[@MsDurex]

Most of SONY camera, especially FX3 has great monitor app. Just can’t find robust and easy to detect mount for it.

[@TheVistrad]

One thing that I miss a lot is the display off function when the screen is locked. Do you know why it's not there?

[@Cool-Story-Studios]

New firmware is out. AtomOS 11.02.00 - Introduction of Touch to Focus, Fujifilm and Nikon camera control support, Introduction of a dedicated shutter release button (Photo mode), and Implementation of Arri False Color and EL Zone

[@gereral1_jackofalltrades]

Does false color have el zone Arri when using a log input?

[@rommelbautista6480]

you can use also a L shape hdmi for more low profile

[@ericgrayphoto]

Wouldn’t that cover the USB-C port?

[@JayStoneCreative]

So after 4 months of use im having some issues with it, can't seem to get it to power on via dummy battery from D-tap at all, even though thats how ive been using it this whole time. Anyone got any suggestions?

[@upperroommic]

where is this touch update for my s5ii.......

[@Jae_MaV]

That's what I'm waiting on. Atomos officially announced touch to focus update a few weeks ago at IBC 2024. Said they will announce its release on it's Instagram page.

[@filmmakerevolution]

Does it have the new EL zone false colour included ? It looks great to be that thin but honestly the Port Keys one that also does camera control looks better imo

[@kylemckenna]

it does with the latest firmware update.

[@dramaversy6569]

what is the small monitor he holds up at 0:58 ?

[@AlpsLifee]

does it have EL zone?

[@markshirley01]

need a design for shooting portrait

[@IndigenousEventRecordings]

shinobi ii or hollyland mars m1 on fx30? 🤔🤔🤔

[@zeus94827]

Mars m1, same feature, with extra wireless hdmi

[@nickterraz]

I really want to purchase the Shinobi 2, but I film in 4k @ 60fps fairly often for surfing. I understand the screen will not show 4k @ 60fps, but can I still use it? Will the Shinobi 2 display it at 30fps while the Canon R6 records in 4k @ 60fps? The Ninja states it is able to do that, but there is a big price difference.

[@ChristianMcNally-n2y]

quite frustrating that the thinness is causing heat issues because I don't know a single person who said "You know I love this monitor but I wish it was thinner!"

[@mistagooner]

I have been having heat issues. Im on the verge of returning mine. Atomos don’t seem to be able to fix this issue. When mine overheats, I get a “no input” display. Useless!

[@docgooner7]

at 16:25 what is that orange icon in the top right? showing on mine too and want to turn off and be sure it's not an error. One more bug - if you turn on the monitor and trigger record from the camera, before entering camera control, there's no red box on monitor. I ghost recorded half a wedding portrait session because of this. Also I hope they add the fstop on screen when using aperture ring soon! Thanks for video!

[@studiotrics]

hi chris can show fx3 setup with atmos ninjav v+ and basic rig setup...i want to buy that but want a guide before...if have time will be very helpfull for us

[@chrisbrockhurst]

I’m in the process of doing an update rig video

[@Omerkrana]

One problem that has come up - The power draw when shooting 4k 120 is too much for the passthrough. My FX3 internal battery drains over the 50 odd minutes I am shooting a soccer game.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Good to know. Thanks for sharing

[@n25992]

Can you touch to focus on the monitor instead of the camera lcd?

[@chrisbrockhurst]

The video explains this

[@gusthecanonrebel]

I had purchased this on launch when I saw their promo video using a R5C. Immediately returned it when I tried the monitor. No USB C PD out, no camera control support after they showed it was possible in their promo video, camera data on the screen was completely inaccurate.

[@theoell2049]

If the camera usb c port is usb port for shinobi how i will connect the camera with gimbal that need usb c port too?

[@chrisbrockhurst]

you won't be able to use both unfortunately

[@MsDurex]

New FX3 firmware will always show my SD overheating. If I am not mistaken the graph. 😢

[@thefactorypublicidad]

I have tried 4 SD cards of different speeds, and every time the card is inserted the shinobi does not turn on. What can it be?

[@kylemckenna]

make sure the cards are formatted first.

[@TheTravandTazTravelDiaries]

I'm only getting issues with mine. My second unit as well.

[@MoonWilts]

What's your go to monitor recommendation?

[@chrisbrockhurst]

For size/value port keys PT6. This one might be my new fav though as I mentioned

[@definingslawek4731]

Viltrox dc x3 is pretty hard to beat right now, came out a month ago. 6 inch 2000 nit IPS. HDMI in and OUT, SDI in and OUT. It also has the BEST sun hood in the industry, game changer. Beautiful all metal design, even the buttons are metal. It costs seemingly no more than the portkeys pt6 which op recommended which is smaller and much much dimmer.

[@Yusaku_VCP]

Did Dunna and Sidney, and others visit your studio? just asking. haha

[@588ta]

You failed to mention the overheating issue, I. Return mind based on that.

[@gfok]

Updated Firmware Shinobi II firmware 11.03.00 released now for FX3 , FX30, and other

[@goodshotsproductions]

The fact there still isn't a single camera monitor out there with a level tool..

[@christianfisher7681]

The small hd cine 5 does

[@goodshotsproductions]

@@christianfisher7681 Thanks for the heads up! I'm going to check it out.

[@sambowks]

I got one couple days ago and it's great - I like the product overall but the lcd panel itself seems pretty low quality. It smudges and sort of lags when I move the camera, it's like it has a really slow response time? Like LCD's from 2004. It's not that sharp and the colour seems sort of 8bit, it doesnt handle gradients at all well. I had a SmallHD before which was leagues better. (Canon R5C)

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Aspects of it compared to much higher priced monitors feel inferior but price wise it is considered ‘budget’

[@GorkaagHD]

No touch focus, no HDMI out... Not for me :(

[@chrisjohnsonfilms]

Touch focus is coming for at least Sony in future

[@chrisbrockhurst]

It’s more of a budget friendly option so I don’t see the need for HDMI out. If you need it you’ll have to spend a bit more with Atomos

[@GorkaagHD]

@@chrisbrockhurst Yes, but i loved the size and weight... i guess you can't have everything haha

[@ekphotography]

Portrays apparently has all that and more..

[@MarkHuynh7]

So they announced at IBC 2024 that Touch Autofocus is available in a firmware update.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

Did you watch the whole video 😉

[@MarkHuynh7]

@@chrisbrockhurst ngl i was mid watch then my kid started crying 😂😂

[@ruisearts]

Why is your top view set up so flimsy? It’s shaking so much.

[@WINDSHEAR-STUDIO]

Is this the best 5?inch monitor available right now for the price? Let’s assume the touch to focus is imminent.

[@chrisbrockhurst]

there is no best anymore, its a case of what features work best for you within the budget you have, hopefully that helps

[@TheVistrad]

Anyone found a sunhood or cage for this one?

[@Filmmaker809]

Atomos Need to do a thinner Ninja V.

[@Wildpneuma-pt8qf]

If only there was a monitor similar to the size of black magic monitors. Fx6 lcd is too small, and atomos is too big to maintain a nimble setup. So close to replacing these crappy lcds yet so far

[@michaeljemery]

Those bezels, hell no. Like you said, that should not be happening in 2024.

[@spdcrzy]

No. Bezels are important. And necessary. What's annoying is when that real estate ISN'T used around the panel itself.

[@andrejcupac7359]

What’s the importance of bezels? They’re just annoying. Imagine the new iPhone having bezels the size of the shinobi’s…no one would buy it

[@spdcrzy]

@@andrejcupac7359 bezels are protection. Bezels mean you can manhandle your tech and actually expect it to survive. Shinobis aren't iPhones. And there's a reason why commercial and rugged tech doesn't go the Apple route of design.

[@nomadicreels]

i wouldnt buy that bezels...

[@definingslawek4731]

Not bright, no hdmi out, no sun hood. Nahh no thanks. Viltrox dc x3 is wayyy better!

[@Lendez]

I just bought the Viltrox DC X-3 and I had to return it cuz it was trash. No camera control and it doesn’t support 4K 60pfs.

[@definingslawek4731]

@@Lendez Neither does the shinobi or any other monitor xd. Bro all these monitors are 1080p. Just send a 1080 signal out. Actually I'm not sure what you mean, I was shooting a commercial for OPPO this weekend and I was recording a lot of it in 4k60 and I was monitoring with it just fine. What do you use camera control for? If you want to use a touch screen to change your aperture why not just use your phone?

[@_loois]

How accurate are the log conversion luts? I've found the conversion luts often have magenta color shifts on cheaper monitors

[@definingslawek4731]

@@_loois You mean the built in ones? IDK, i just use the ones I use in davinci resolve, because you can load them in.

[@wayneberry3453]

Lol 1500 isn't bright?

[@urbanie]

does it have rule of thirds grid? this is never mentioned, old shinobi doesnt and im disappointed. i know ninja V does but its discontinued and i dont plan on spending 800 euros on the new tan ninja 🥲

[@Jae_MaV]

Yes it does.