Debunking Maynard's 25s Scream (Tool's The Grudge Vocal Analysis)

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Chris Liepe

Chris Liepe

Күн бұрын

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@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
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@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
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@TFYS-QA
@TFYS-QA 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Chris, I'm going to give this a go. I had my vocal folds examined just a little while back to make sure they were not damaged. Scope down the nose, not so fun, but results were good!
@justincorber7528
@justincorber7528 9 күн бұрын
My opinion is that Maynard's scream there is 3 vocal takes cross faded and put together. The first half is an unorthodox scream then cross faded into another. And lastly, a scream mixed in like the one he does it live. Just my 2 cents.
@GabiBrooks
@GabiBrooks 3 ай бұрын
Chris, please do an analysis of Deftones' Passenger. I love how Chino and Maynard sound together on that one!
@McFangsworth
@McFangsworth 3 ай бұрын
I agree!
@JaMeshuggah
@JaMeshuggah 3 ай бұрын
Now that's a song
@GabiBrooks
@GabiBrooks 3 ай бұрын
@@JaMeshuggah nice name! Meshuggah is my favorite band.
@JaMeshuggah
@JaMeshuggah 3 ай бұрын
@@GabiBrooks Now that's a band! Let's hope for a Deftones Meshuggah and Tool tour lol
@GabiBrooks
@GabiBrooks 3 ай бұрын
@@JaMeshuggah that would be fiire!
@AcademiaGutural
@AcademiaGutural 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, "The Aggressive Vocalist's Master Plan of Attack" is the single greatest name for a vocal course I've heard in MY LIFE. Nice work as always, Chris.
@hypermuser
@hypermuser 3 ай бұрын
Vulgar Display Of Vocal
@minusthetext
@minusthetext 3 ай бұрын
As a musician & engineer, the main vocal track keeps going here for the entirety of the scream - there are other layers that come in to reinforce it (it's going to get a bit thin when you hold it that long, no matter who you are) but it's not replacing the main vocal, it's just adding depth to it.
@NootNoode
@NootNoode 3 ай бұрын
finally some maynard again! thanks a lot always love analysis on him please do more
@tidewell
@tidewell 3 ай бұрын
Worked for the band during that era. Was present for many of the recording sessions at Cello Studios (Ocean Way) and The Hook. Will go on record that the length of the scream on that take was pure and Maynard nearly did pass out at the end of it. You can confirm with Danny Carey, Justin Chancellor and David Bottrill who were all witnesses to the performance in question. I do appreciate your effort and analysis, however.
@plazima
@plazima 3 ай бұрын
But did that make it to the final version
@99bajakid
@99bajakid 3 ай бұрын
neat, I actually didn't know they recorded at Ocean Way - I would have loved to be there to hear the final mix on those speakers lol
@thepooz7205
@thepooz7205 3 ай бұрын
There is no claim that Maynard didn’t nearly pass out, or that he didn’t have one or more incredible takes. But none of those claims address the claim that there is some production wizardry going on to subtlety layer and compose it into the audio we have all heard thousands of times in the released recording.
@BillCoz
@BillCoz 3 ай бұрын
.....I believe him yo, I don't know why, but I do..
@ethosfm1262
@ethosfm1262 3 ай бұрын
I have larger lung capacity than Maynard by virtue of being a bigger dude than he is, and I managed to do it ONCE when I was around 18 or so. I had a conscious black out, where I literally went blind for like a second before I regained sight.
@jessehutchings
@jessehutchings 3 ай бұрын
25:58 I think you're probably right AND you can hide more noticeable sound cuts behind the drum beats as well. Of course, Maynard has surprised me several times in live video recordings. There's no question he can do very spectacular things
@KEPSAGAMER
@KEPSAGAMER 3 ай бұрын
"I DON'T MINDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD" I swear I hear it in almost every tool song now... can we get a breakdown of "H"?
@jaykeenan8751
@jaykeenan8751 3 ай бұрын
17:04 is such a mood. Tool's genius in full view, and Chris misses none of it.
@Angela_Fleming
@Angela_Fleming 3 ай бұрын
The other members of Tool create the instrumentals and then Maynard listens to it and creates lyrics and vocals separately from the band. It's interesting that it's cohesive in the end. I've seen Tool and A Perfect Circle live. They were both awesome live! Take care Chris 💕
@edchandler5842
@edchandler5842 3 ай бұрын
I have heard that he was trying for 27 seconds to represent the 27 year orbit of Saturn, but he could only get to 25. They could have easily tacked on the extra 2 seconds in production if they wanted to. The fact that they left it at 25 makes me think he did at least one successful scream and they layered effects and tracks over it.
@fenderfox5080
@fenderfox5080 3 ай бұрын
I absolutely love this one Chris❤ anything with Maynard gives me chills. That long gritty scream with that gritty falter thing he does at the end aah I love it!!!
@ssjllamamusic
@ssjllamamusic 3 ай бұрын
Thanks to you, I now realize that mo szyslak sings in the background during the opening verse
@LukeNeumann
@LukeNeumann 3 ай бұрын
To keep the mystery alive for my own fandom, I will concede that there is layering but it's simply mixing together full 25 second takes to get a more pristine full take.
@katmannsson
@katmannsson 3 ай бұрын
I mean he's done it live so like *shrug*
@Riki_Rants
@Riki_Rants 3 ай бұрын
I've seen Tool so many times, I would agree with you for the most part. There has been a few shows where I was disappointed he missed or didn't attempt parts like on the song Pushit, but overall he "can" do it.
@banehog
@banehog 3 ай бұрын
He literally addresses that AND even plays the live audio @26:14 so like *shrug*
@cathysnider8717
@cathysnider8717 3 ай бұрын
Wow Chris this is absolutely fascinating. Relatively new to me, I’m overwhelmed by Maynard’s voice and technique and the production of this song. All those characters all those layers, I never would have heard them without this analysis. I’m I the only one who gets emotional discovering the mastery of a vocalist? Time to dive into more Maynard analyses.
@dontdissdave
@dontdissdave 3 ай бұрын
Also check out A Perfect Circle and Pucifer, Maynard's other bands. He really adds more of his incredible vocal techniques in those bands.
@cathysnider8717
@cathysnider8717 3 ай бұрын
@@dontdissdave Thank you. I’ll check those out.
@AlecBridges
@AlecBridges 3 ай бұрын
Check out the live version from New York in 2002. He screams for a long time. Not quite 25 seconds, but close.
@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
Right! Different technique tho! :)
@AlecBridges
@AlecBridges 3 ай бұрын
@@chrisliepe ​​⁠Yeah. I actually like the way he sings (the entire song) live more than studio. Side note - it would be cool to see you analyze Phil Anselmo on the intro to a live version of 13 Steps To Nowhere. It's the one from Sacramento, CA in 1996. He sounds like an actual monster. It is insane.
@jessehutchings
@jessehutchings 3 ай бұрын
Maynard's style choices are so creative and unique to him. Every song he sings I'm like who else besides Maynard thinks to do this??
@jmlopez5260
@jmlopez5260 3 ай бұрын
Chris is the GOAT for vocals analysis
@saysthemanbehindthemask
@saysthemanbehindthemask 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting breakdown. There's a lot going on really... I mean on some parts it's obvious even in the final mix but some elements can be appreciated only when the vocals are brought up. Makes me want to try things in my own recordings
@scottw5253
@scottw5253 3 ай бұрын
I have personally witnessed Maynard perform The Grudge live about a half dozen times. I never timed this part during the show like some god damn vocal debunker, but the man did the scream each time and nothing seemed off or out of place. I specifically remember after one performance of the Grudge, Maynard commented something to the effect of, "You can't do these songs if you've been SMOKING your whole life." He emphasised the word smoking pointing at the VIP section and said "fucking pot smokers!" and then they went directly into "The Pot."
@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
Haha. Nice! Ya he kills this live. I talk about that in this video. He uses a different technique. He kills it in the studio too! It’s just different. And different is awesome, but us aspiring vocalists benefit from calling out those differences and production nuances so that we have realistic expectations of what is possible with the voice and how we should be practicing!
@fenderfox5080
@fenderfox5080 3 ай бұрын
So that clean end scream is more like Know your Enemy, clean, with a pitchless scream behind it, makes sense. Good stuff sir😊
@sharpphilip
@sharpphilip 3 ай бұрын
I must recommend against trying to do that while driving. (I’ve nearly passed out at the wheel thanks to the mistaken idea that I, too, could hold that note for so long. Whoops!)
@unreactive
@unreactive 3 ай бұрын
this is super fun content i think i'm gonna hear the song a little differently from now on
@Raksasa187
@Raksasa187 3 ай бұрын
I have always noticed something was going on in that scream and hearing this makes so much sense now. Still epic all around and my gateway into Tool!!
@BW9971
@BW9971 3 ай бұрын
Chris, you make me laugh. You are so animated with your vocals. 😂 Thank you
@pietgeursen7023
@pietgeursen7023 3 ай бұрын
Man that was _fascinating_. Thanks for revealing a bunch of his creative choices i could never have heard by myself.
@JamesonNichols
@JamesonNichols 3 ай бұрын
His live performances, are his best interpretations of what happens in the studio.
@Don-QuixWhitey
@Don-QuixWhitey 3 ай бұрын
The Hammerstein Ballroom, New York, NY (5-20-01; kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaSoaKeEbL2cZpI) and The Volkshaus, Zurich, CH (5-28-01) are the only live recordings (I know of, that is) of Maynard hitting near twenty-five seconds for "The Grudge" scream using album technique. Rarities indeed, and quite impressive. Edit: KZbin won't let the me paste the link to the Zurich show. For anyone interested, a full recording of the show is available on the Tool Drive Project.
@zacharysmithingell5460
@zacharysmithingell5460 3 ай бұрын
Something that strikes me is the chorus effect on the vocal, which I think is used pretty frequently across Maynard fronted projects. Sounds very cool and adds some depth and character to the recorded performance. Also, no pitch correction that I can hear, and every vocal layer is not perfectly on pitch, which I think is additive to the overall performance.
@CMill78
@CMill78 3 ай бұрын
Great analysis! Only gripe is you could have let the last bit play out to hear Danny go off.😅
@moonf4llen
@moonf4llen 3 ай бұрын
Here to ask again because I would LOVE to see a vocal analysis of Vic Fuentes!!! I absolutely love his voice and there’s so much to learn from his tone!
@KeithShelley1
@KeithShelley1 3 ай бұрын
You can hear a lot of these production tricks on Maynard's vocals when it comes to the long-held notes. For instance, the end of "jimmy," there's a long delay effect that crossfades in at some point towards the end of the note. He uses long delays and reverbs on his vocals live, too, especially on "Pushit" from the Salival live album.
@BrainWasherAttendent
@BrainWasherAttendent 3 ай бұрын
Ok? This is obvious upon first listen. Not sure why people think they found something hidden.
@SteveReddington
@SteveReddington 2 ай бұрын
My favorite reaction of all time!
@ninomatase1112
@ninomatase1112 3 ай бұрын
Hey Chris! Thanks for uploading so much valuable information on singing, it's very helpful for so many people! Lately I've been having a problem with my mixed voice. I seem to have an unintentional rasp everytime I sing in mix (especially when I use a more open throat and around the lower mixed notes like around B flat). It sounds like a layer of fry voice on top of my singing. It doesn't sound that bad but sometimes it takes over so much that my singing almost seems an octave lower like the mongolian throat singing. I manage to get rid of it when I go as thin and winey as possible, but I would like to be able to bring a little bit of chest and keep an open throat on those notes while also being able to keep them clean (or at least cleaner). Maybe you could make a video on this in the future. Good luck in everything you do!
@yello4433
@yello4433 3 ай бұрын
Chris, I'd love for you to react to Imperial Circus Dead Decadence. the vocalist is one of the WILDEST screamers out there!
@lerb3001
@lerb3001 3 ай бұрын
Yes, and iirc he does all the male cleans as well
@GabiBrooks
@GabiBrooks 3 ай бұрын
Oh yeaah! Love his technique!
@IsaacBirchall
@IsaacBirchall 3 ай бұрын
Glen Hansard is another great singer that holds closed vowels. It's an Irish thing music thing I think. I'd love to see a react/vocal video to something of Glen... he's a folk singer with incredible range, power, grit, mix and endurance. I've seen him sing & belt it for literally hours without faltering or wavering.
@skadragon
@skadragon 3 ай бұрын
Maynard always gets a watch, a like, and a comment.
@JamesSmith-bf5ct
@JamesSmith-bf5ct 3 ай бұрын
There's a couple points during the scream where, to me, it sounds like there might be a layer (or a few) that are reversed.
@7thparabola
@7thparabola 3 ай бұрын
Great analysis!
@georges8200
@georges8200 Ай бұрын
met maynard hes a piece 25 show i was doing with like 25 people for free. it was a charity show EVERYONE paid.
@zacciswacc594
@zacciswacc594 3 ай бұрын
I’d love to hear you listen to the isolated vocals from The Red by Chevelle. I think the harmonies are beautiful!
@SwatyChopsuey
@SwatyChopsuey 3 ай бұрын
I've been following your stuff for a while now and I've always wondered why when you do the vocal take yourself you often to it a key higher
@deztaylor5151
@deztaylor5151 3 ай бұрын
I'm begging you Chris! Please do your own vocal cover of Tool!! U sounds like Maynard!! ❤
@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
Have you seen my Judith cover ? (its a short)
@deztaylor5151
@deztaylor5151 3 ай бұрын
@chrisliepe I have not!!! But I'm going to find it immediately. So excited!! Thank you kind sir!! I tip my tiny hat to u!!! 👒
@billpimentel-vm6cu
@billpimentel-vm6cu 3 ай бұрын
Maynard’s vocal ranges are amazing and I’ve seen them live over a dozen times, his lyricism is amazing and the band are the best musicians IMO. So I don’t caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrree!!
@scottw5253
@scottw5253 3 ай бұрын
You should do this with their live recording of "Pushit" from the Salival album. Maynard's vocals on that track give me the chills no matter how many times I hear that tune. It's a stunning vocal performance. The song has 3 separate crescendos. It's just bonkers how good that performance was. You'd dig it I'm certain of it.
@dakotareyna2517
@dakotareyna2517 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to hear your take on Travis Meeks from Days of the New
@GoddaryuTUBE
@GoddaryuTUBE 3 ай бұрын
He prob did also have a single take as well as the layer. I can do 35-40 second screams and can tell you I don't have much lung capacity, I smoke bongs every day. It's easy when its just yelling and not annunciating words. Especially since there's no lead up of words before or after so you have all the time in the world to get your breath
@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
Most people totally can do a longer scream, but it’s not the technique we hear Maynard doing in the studio recording. It’s more like what we hear him do live… a voiceless, low airflow fry or upper constricted “whisper” scream.
@GoddaryuTUBE
@GoddaryuTUBE 3 ай бұрын
@@chrisliepe And that's exactly how I do the long screams its super compressed low airflow fry scream, and as you start running out of support for it, you close your mouth more and bring teeth into it (for lack of a better way to describe) and lean into a more grunge kinda distortion.
@rome8180
@rome8180 3 ай бұрын
Heck, 25 seconds isn't that hard if you're singing a note in a good range either. It just takes a tiny bit of practice. I would say a scream is harder because you're more likely to accidentally release too much air at the onset. For me, an E4 in a mixed voice is the sweet spot. But really, any note that's not excessively chest voice driven would work. Lung capacity has nothing to do with it. It has to do with not releasing too much air too fast. Air flow control.
@GoddaryuTUBE
@GoddaryuTUBE 3 ай бұрын
@@rome8180 I agree it's all in the technique, but like Chris said here he isn't really talking about how long the scream is, that was my misunderstanding and commenting before the video was over
@Kommaer
@Kommaer 3 ай бұрын
I've got my guttural as low as 72 Hertz. I was too exited and unfortunately forgot to understand the process. next time, I hope =D
@shyataroo
@shyataroo 3 ай бұрын
Elizabeth Zharhoff of the Charismatic voice would LOVE this video
@Herocross64
@Herocross64 3 ай бұрын
[3:50] I don't know of the Vocalist Maynard but the voice your talking about is something that I've always had in my inventory of voices that I can use in and out of singing. I use this to sound funny when I speak to be more funny around friends like when I'm about to make a joke as an example. I have used that voice before for singing but only rarely will I, I'll check Maynard out after the video ends. Aric -
@lisasechler5714
@lisasechler5714 3 ай бұрын
T00L, A Perfect Circle, Puscifer
@alexgolovchenko3791
@alexgolovchenko3791 3 ай бұрын
Very similar chord progression is found in the song 'Epitaph' by Judas Priest on their Sad Wings Of Destiny album. 5th G down to D 5th, or a drop of three whole notes. Actually, really beautiful.
@Raksasa187
@Raksasa187 3 ай бұрын
I would also love to see a same kind of video of Chino Moreno's scream(s) on both Royal en Hexagram
@alexgrindnshine2522
@alexgrindnshine2522 3 ай бұрын
Love your reactions! Keep going down the Tool Rabbit Hole! They are one of the Best Tools to overcoming life’s hardships
@fyndor
@fyndor 3 ай бұрын
Haha of course there is a video dedicated to this scream :D
@johncarpenter3751
@johncarpenter3751 3 ай бұрын
15:17 my dude sounds like The Rev when singing the lyric Sinking Deeper 😆 RIP REV…. FoREVer!!
@SwatyChopsuey
@SwatyChopsuey 3 ай бұрын
To be honest that kind of scream is not TOO difficult in my opinion (I'm a singer and I've done smilar scream that long or longer for some songs) it's actually about relaxing the diaphragm and just holding a note while retaining some grit in your vocals. As long as you have great breathing you should be fine. Also from what I am hearing I don't know if they actually fade the beggining part of the scream into it or if they just double layered the ending part with different timing so they overlap and gives us a bigger ambiance.
@Dacoolestguyindawrld
@Dacoolestguyindawrld 3 ай бұрын
This is sooo fucking cool! Maynard is amazing, haters just dont understand! Theres a reason I called my son Lex Maynard Novak! :D Thank you so much for posting, love your vids! Best vocal coach vids on yt imo! :DDD
@Dacoolestguyindawrld
@Dacoolestguyindawrld 3 ай бұрын
I hope you in a band! If not come to Oz and we'll fuck shit up!!! LOL! :))
@KEPSAGAMER
@KEPSAGAMER 3 ай бұрын
Any chance of getting Andy Cizek to talk about covering paramore? I really need to know hahaha
@shadowcraftplayer9075
@shadowcraftplayer9075 3 ай бұрын
I think it was a 25s scream take using the technique that he uses live. Then they added layers of another takes of much shorter duration where he used other techniques. Maybe the start and end of a 10s scream that was more powerfull. You can clearly hear exactly where some of the added layers are cuz they cut them to match perfectly with the beat.
@TheLarknessMonster
@TheLarknessMonster 3 ай бұрын
You are correct about the scream. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6SqemN8qLJ_j7c fast forward to 6:45, he does the scream here for almost 21 seconds live back in 2002. When MJK was at his prime vocally in the early 2000s he could do the Grudge scream for 20 seconds live (Which is absolutely insane). In the recording its closer to 25 seconds so there's some production elements going on lengthening it by about 5 seconds so it matches up for when the instruments transition.
@BrainWasherAttendent
@BrainWasherAttendent 3 ай бұрын
This proves nothing but ok
@TheLarknessMonster
@TheLarknessMonster 3 ай бұрын
@@BrainWasherAttendent What?
@mrddcass6540
@mrddcass6540 3 ай бұрын
Live vs studio are two completely different things. He can take his time, multiple takes, pro headphones and mic ect.
@deztaylor5151
@deztaylor5151 3 ай бұрын
Chris I think you should cover some Tool, like u have done with Chris Cornell songs. You actually sounded a lot like him here ❤
@DeborahBrown-bo1ir
@DeborahBrown-bo1ir 3 ай бұрын
If there's all this mixing and layering, isn't it weird to hear these people in a concert setting where you can't do that or can you do that.
@ajburd7997
@ajburd7997 3 ай бұрын
All the drummers watching this video are going "what the hell is going on behind you, sir?" But as a drummer who is interested in how vocalists play their instruments this was very enriching. If we could hear more of the sonfter, lower tracks isolated that would be TOPS!
@aldoalonzo4183
@aldoalonzo4183 3 ай бұрын
This is very interesting! Can you analyze Mike Patton's 18 second scream in Mr. Bungle's song 'Carry Stress In The Jaw (without hidden track)' Thanks for this video, really cool stuff!
@myztklk3v
@myztklk3v 3 ай бұрын
I don't know how you isolated those tracks but it sounds so weird isolating Maynards voice like that.
@RosettaStoned462
@RosettaStoned462 3 ай бұрын
I fucking love Tool. 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐 They have ruined other music for me!
@BloodyShedProductions
@BloodyShedProductions 3 ай бұрын
Please analyse Vic Fuentes of Pierce the Veil, you're missing out if you don't hear his screams
@eclipsewrecker
@eclipsewrecker 3 ай бұрын
Live on letterman or Leno with APC, he hits similar vocal in version of The Outsider.
@LSDrums25
@LSDrums25 3 ай бұрын
It's funny that he didn't do the final yell in a single take. I managed to pull off that 25s scream once in the shower while listening to the song. But never ever again when actually trying to perform it. It's like the longer scream at the end of Eulogy, sometimes it's easier for me to do it perfectly when I'm riding a bike, but harder when standing still. Something about how open my lungs are, or maybe the increase in air flux when biking.
@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
Ya, there's lots of techniques, as Maynard demonstrates live... that will get you to 25 sec and beyond, but NOT the pitched YELL he does in the studio version. He uses a different technique live to get the length. I talk about this a bit in the video towards the end :)
@LSDrums25
@LSDrums25 3 ай бұрын
@@chrisliepe I watched it, and it makes sense. But it is still possible to do the pitched version for that long. I'm just unable to ever do it again LOL
@DrClownPhD
@DrClownPhD 3 ай бұрын
Maynard is quite the vocalist. Used to not appreciate what he brings to TOOL but now as an adult I connect with what he brings to TOOL a lot more than I ever have. His lyrics and vocal work oozes in layers and emotion
@BecksDad93
@BecksDad93 3 ай бұрын
@GabiBrooks has the right idea, Passenger is beautiful.
@NameFirst-fb6km
@NameFirst-fb6km 3 ай бұрын
Gotta do strapping young lads bring on the young , Devin Townsend does a whistle note
@oosagimami6866
@oosagimami6866 3 ай бұрын
❤Ahh!! yay!! 👏👏🙌🙌🤘🥰
@blakebrunner5499
@blakebrunner5499 3 ай бұрын
No offense but I think he held the scream for the full duration. I think its just layered to keep the amplitude up.
@Wungolioth
@Wungolioth 3 ай бұрын
Did Maynard ever actually claim the scream was a single take without production? This isn't a challenge, but I always felt I could hear layers falling away in there, so it doesn't really surprise me at all. I've only ever heard others make those claims on his behalf, nothing directly from Maynard. Let's not forget that he seems to like to troll interviewers, like when he claimed the Fibonacci sequence in Lateralus was purely coincidental.
@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
He’s made no claims. I point this out just for our own education and propensity to pressure ourselves to do things we hear in recordings.
@EBMproductions1
@EBMproductions1 3 ай бұрын
*Bro what about wayne knupps 31sec scream at the end of Devourments-Baby uhmm anliver? Id love your reaction to waynes vocals* 😂
@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
GREAT IDEA!
@ianbrinton
@ianbrinton 3 ай бұрын
I've seen him do it live. He holds the note.
@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
It’s a different technique live. I discuss this and show examples in this video
@ianbrinton
@ianbrinton 3 ай бұрын
@@chrisliepe that may be, but he achieves a very similar effect. The live recording you used is not good quality, and it's difficult to find good recordings because of Tools device policies. You really have to see them perform the Grudge, live for yourself to get what I'm saying.
@ELEMENTARYcz
@ELEMENTARYcz 3 ай бұрын
I can scream longer. Without layering and editing. You can check it out.
@damanOts
@damanOts 3 ай бұрын
To be honest the 20 second scream isnt hard to do, as long as you dont mind passing out. Also “mixing wizardry festival” is a great way to describe every Tool album from Aenima onward.
@delicrux
@delicrux 3 ай бұрын
if what your saying is true the same can be dune with a delay peddle which would cause the beginning to re trigger over top of the continuous scream honestly if you really want to do analysis you need izotope rx it will let you isolate and see a more detailed spectral graph
@timhalo7898
@timhalo7898 3 ай бұрын
It's just a doubled scream. No edits, just natural pitch bending from the layers interacting. He does it live no problem. Stop with the baseless conspiracies. It's not all that hard with practice. I find Jens Kidman's (of Meshuggah) performance throughout Chaosphere to be MUCH MORE impressive.
@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
he uses a different technique live. I talk about this in the video. I was also careful to make my observations as theories and not asserting them as absolutes.
@BrainWasherAttendent
@BrainWasherAttendent 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Sometimes the most technical “teachers” overthink this stuff and don’t get it and are off with their conclusions.
@Fargaround
@Fargaround 3 ай бұрын
I've heard him pull off the 25 sec one live.
@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
Yep! But it’s a different technique. I discussed this in the video
@em0_tion
@em0_tion 3 ай бұрын
I think you'll be interested in checking out The Charismatic Voice's channel and their research about harsh metal vocals. 🤘🤗 You might even collab, who knows, one can only dream. 😁🙏
@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
Already a part of it and have done a course with Will and Elizabeth :) you’ll see my pic on one of the funding options if you go to their page and I did a community post about the campaign last week. If you’d like to check out the course we’ve done together head to mymusicalvoice.com
@beehype46and2
@beehype46and2 3 ай бұрын
Comment for da algorithm Streak count: 434
@tribounty1392
@tribounty1392 3 ай бұрын
Man you gotta check out hellbound by autmn kings. Super unique voice and the song slaps.
@Eva-k7h
@Eva-k7h 3 ай бұрын
Please. Listen to Camilo Sesto, Getsemani live. You don't expect what you are going to listen. It's amazing. He could be the first spanish heavy metal singer. When you listen to it, you will want to make a video. Thanks and regards.
@SteweeTonez
@SteweeTonez 3 ай бұрын
🖤
@doingthings5735
@doingthings5735 3 ай бұрын
I guess this is just kinda boring to me, like a Ken Tamplin analysis - no offense. Everyone uses layering, other singers, effects (delay, reverb, chorus, whatever), all types of stuff, even live. I know you’re not digging at Maynard, it’s just that I can’t figure out what you’re trying to demonstrate or accomplish with this, based on your title. By putting debunk in your title, you attract an audience curious as to whether Maynard is being disingenuous. Sort of a bait and switch. Maybe I’m wrong, but it just comes across that way. Marketing 101 though.
@yuneappel8867
@yuneappel8867 3 ай бұрын
Least pretentious Tool fan
@originalvonster
@originalvonster 3 ай бұрын
I feel like I could hear frogs creaking during that scream 29:10
@borogove
@borogove 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes there are really funny sounds hidden in screams. I once recorded a vocalist and it sounded like we pitch corrected his scream to sound like a very fast chromatic scale. It didn't sound good, just really unnatural and edited.
@originalvonster
@originalvonster 3 ай бұрын
@@borogove thanks for the reply. I’ll have to start listening out for that kinda stuff in screams. I’m kinda intrigued now btw, I wanna hear the song you did.
@chuckymogwai
@chuckymogwai 3 ай бұрын
I feel like they layered the scream with the didgeridoo? sound you hear at the start of this song live
@originalvonster
@originalvonster 3 ай бұрын
@@chuckymogwai I just had a listen but I didn’t know a didgeridoo could go that low, when I’ve heard them they seem higher.
@very_not_emo
@very_not_emo 3 ай бұрын
please do meshuggah some day
@Mattskito529
@Mattskito529 3 ай бұрын
Do every Tool song!!
@SheddysGaming
@SheddysGaming 3 ай бұрын
My ❤..... But also... I guess it's okay to be reminded he's human 😂
@earthscorcher
@earthscorcher 3 ай бұрын
I clicked this video so fast 😂
@pawebujak4837
@pawebujak4837 3 ай бұрын
Great analysis, but make yourself as loud as track, so I won't have to lower volume every time you speak or scream. Much love ;)
@warmgadget7425
@warmgadget7425 3 ай бұрын
So you are telling us that Maynard is NOT superhuman??? Great. What's next? Santa? The Tooth Fairy???
@chrisliepe
@chrisliepe 3 ай бұрын
Haha
@MattWilhoit
@MattWilhoit 20 күн бұрын
He absolutely done the scream in 2001 and 2002 of course not now seen that tour 4 times
@matthiasjjohnsonjr
@matthiasjjohnsonjr Ай бұрын
I hear something…
@NathanNavarrete-r5m
@NathanNavarrete-r5m 3 ай бұрын
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