Wide Road Race Tyres Are Getting Ridiculous (35mm, 40mm?!) | NERO Show Ep. 116

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Chris Miller Cycling

Chris Miller Cycling

Күн бұрын

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@markusseppala6547
@markusseppala6547 3 күн бұрын
David Arthur made a comment on that video that will be quoted to the end of times "They're not slower but you need more power to ride at the same speed"
@austinjacob99
@austinjacob99 3 күн бұрын
😂
@valiantabello
@valiantabello 3 күн бұрын
Dumbest thing I have ever heard him say which is saying something
@anon7684
@anon7684 3 күн бұрын
Guess he meant top speed
@greg4318
@greg4318 2 күн бұрын
Yep…..the dumbest statement in the history of cycling…….
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 күн бұрын
@@valiantabello hahahahahahah
@mrwhiteshorts
@mrwhiteshorts 2 күн бұрын
@27:35 Chris is the same speed as Remco, he just needs more time to cover the same distance,
@OldDavo1950
@OldDavo1950 Күн бұрын
Just a comment on Training and Preparing. For instance the upcoming Peaks Challenge in March. Alot of us are doing a bit of both, preparing to ride faster than we ever thought. And training to do the distance. Where you two guys can get away with very little and use sheer natural ability. The vast majority are doing distance over and above what you would ever think of. Also doing the pun VERTS. Its all about klm in the bank for us. We are not all gifted with 400w FTP. And can do 4,5wkg up Hotham. So you need to acknowledge the gulf between yourselves and the rest who are going to be out there for the full 12/13hrs. Personally this is my 2nd attempt after 172klm in oven heat last year. I aim to finish this year, I know I can ride the distance, power is my achilles heel. At 75yo not suprising but I am going to give it a bloody good go..
@saurabhrandhawa4494
@saurabhrandhawa4494 2 күн бұрын
Hello Chris, Sl8 is available for a test ride at the Maap popup store for $20. Here you go, bike is available for you to test and comment if the bike hold the speed or not 😉😉
@EYEupP
@EYEupP 2 күн бұрын
Congrats guys on this RedBull sponsorship. Following you since Ep.1, I know you wanted this since the beginning, hence the RedBull can or two placed on set. Really happy and I hope this means bigger things for you guys - well deserved. FYI - I wanted to order the first NERO SUIT, but sadly you don't have anything big enough for me (according to your size guide). :(
@Gabrielle4870
@Gabrielle4870 2 күн бұрын
And the casually placed AliExpress helmet at times 😅
@EYEupP
@EYEupP 2 күн бұрын
@Gabrielle4870 they dont talk about it though. But they did talk about red bull a couple of times the 1st year they started the pod. Perseverance and continuing to do what you believe in and good things will happen... or so they say.
@paulw677
@paulw677 2 күн бұрын
As someone preparing for Peaks I really enjoyed the training vs prepping chat. I'm currently indoors after a car dooring incident which lead to concussion and broken rib - lucky not to have had more injuries....anyway I am encouraged to hear my indoor training is beneficial. I have been told by a very experienced and very successful national champion level rider that it's all about climbing efforts. I definitely agree that getting used to long non stop riding is crucial and so is having an event day plan! More of this type of discussion please - Jesse has a way of cutting through the BS
@anemlachhomebrewing3690
@anemlachhomebrewing3690 8 сағат бұрын
Sorry to learn of your incident, best regards for a full recovery. I too collided with a car early Oct, busted AC joint amongst other shoulder injuries, and also training for my first peaks. Following the Bicycle Network intermediate plan and all but one ride has been indoors on Zwift. The ride outside was the weekend before last, and despite pseudo climbing on the trainer, including ADZ and Ven Top, I smashed some local circa 15 min climbs and got new PRs I set several years ago. I felt strong the entire 3.5hrs group ride, varying abilities, so not pushing myself too hard but then still had enough in the bank for an hour and a half on the trainer as soon as I got home. Been worried the indoor training wouldn’t be enough, but the weekend rides are min 4hrs continuous pedalling against resistance so I’m starting to feel more confident. I’d say majority of my remaining training will be indoors with some “preparation” rides on weekends. Good look at Peaks.
@ryanE5038
@ryanE5038 3 күн бұрын
Iam sure there is a Channel listener that has an SL8 that would allow you guys to ride the bike, so you can finally after all this time have a real world opinion on the SL8, that you can share with all of us.
@jameseastwood402
@jameseastwood402 3 күн бұрын
The guest episodes are some of my favourite. Looking forward to the new format
@WesleyHurrell
@WesleyHurrell 2 күн бұрын
Hey guys, its Wes Hurrell here (the guy on the TCR in the video)...I see Chris a bit here and there at racing etc. I threw my Princeton Tri-Spoke and Princeton Disc Blur on for the Parra Park chop xmas eve simply for a bit of fun. I spent a couple of hours the night before putting on the stickers. Here's a pic. See you at 3 Peaks Chris. Oh and I work in the industry...@The Odd Spoke. Reach out if you want to cross check some facts or some inside info.
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling Күн бұрын
Love it Wes! So what was it like chopping on the TCR with tri and disc? Genuinely interested to know how it performed.
@LyfeisByke
@LyfeisByke 3 күн бұрын
I think everyone miss understands pressure for different volumes. A larger volume tire with the same pressure as a smaller volume tire is significantly harder. That’s why the 32 was faster on a smooth drum. Using Boyles Law to calculate the differences between sizes, a 32mm tire at 120psi is equivalent to running a 25mm tire at 195psi. A 28mm equivalent would be 156psi. Also the “recommended pressures” used in the size comparison tests are incorrect always favoring the larger volume tire. Use Boyles Law to fix those recommended pressures and I bet all the gp5000 tires in that test would roll identical. For anyone interested in real world riding pressures, a 28mm tire at 72psi is equivalent to a 25mm @90psi, a 30mm @62psi and a 32mm @55psi
@piltrid1
@piltrid1 2 күн бұрын
"We feel the ultimate test is adjusting all tires to the same comfort level. When all tires are adjusted to the same comfort level, rolling resistance is nearly the same (0.2 watts max) for all sizes of the GP 5000." - Bicycle Rolling Resistance (Continental Grand Prix 5000 Comparison: 23, 25, 28, and 32 mm Compared). Its worth a read for anyone interested.
@butikitoo6403
@butikitoo6403 Күн бұрын
@@piltrid1 i believe the argument for larger tires, (which as a "gravel rider", i feel are valid), is that you can run them at lower pressure to improve comfort, ( and reduced fatigue), and as for improvements in rolling resistance, that comes into play as the "smoothness" of the riding surface. So riding at the same "comfort level" on a smooth surface (like a steel drum), offers little benefit (perhaps increased grip), but risks aerodynamic losses.
@kimlightningmcnulty
@kimlightningmcnulty Күн бұрын
I’m no expert, but I don’t think Boyles law applies It basically says that if you squeeze more gas into a smaller space at the same temperature, the pressure will go up, that’s not similar to what we’re doing when we inflate our tires at all. When you inflate your tires to a pressure, it’s an amount of four against the tire carcass compared to the outside atmosphere, less force on that carcass equals less pressure because of soft tire The purpose of a larger tire is to distribute the load of the system weight into more tire surface by using less pressure my experience is a 25 mil tire at 95 psi is a lot harder than a 28 mill tire at 75 psi
@LyfeisByke
@LyfeisByke Күн бұрын
Sram actually has an article about it on their website. Boyles law is what the sram tire pressure calculator is based off of. P1V1 = P2V2. But ya I agree, comfort level might not feel the same.
@lunam7249
@lunam7249 17 сағат бұрын
your discussion is tech. nonsence....smaller narrow at high pressure is faster bike. the old days were 19mm @ 150psi, for comfort i use 23mm@ 95psi @ 700c, any fatter is slower regardless of psi, btw i dont blow out trust anything above 120psi..PV = nRT = boyles , is simply the ENERGY DERIVATION, NOT STIFFNESS = HOOKES LAW
@stefanohbellote9948
@stefanohbellote9948 22 сағат бұрын
dudes, the talk about Training VS Preparation was really good! Jesse not only knows a lot, but he express himself very clearly, and this does a load of difference.
@chrishamelink9942
@chrishamelink9942 19 сағат бұрын
Hi Chris & Jesse, Jonathan from TrainerRoad announced he was coming Down Under for the 3 Peaks Challenge. He has so many questions. You guys would have a fantastic conversation. Please have him on one of your guest episodes. Cheers
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling 19 сағат бұрын
Jonathan's a great choice. We'll see if we can get him on the show!
@thomasking4057
@thomasking4057 7 сағат бұрын
​@@ChrisMillerCyclinghe referenced your video a lot (and talked you up) when talking about signing up for Peaks so would be a really good discussion. He's definitely going the training over prep route
@thewisconsingravelcyclist
@thewisconsingravelcyclist 3 күн бұрын
Coyle goes gravel in 2025. Lets see it!!! The episode with Patrick Lino was great by the way.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 күн бұрын
Let's hit up some driftless gravel this summer!
@DanceTurbo
@DanceTurbo 3 күн бұрын
Silca ruined cargo bibs on their June 3rd podcast when they revealed 10 watts of losses at 33 km/h with 3-4 empty wrappers per side when testing Ben Delaney in the wind tunnel. That only goes up at speed. It's worth listening to the episode at 17 minutes to learn why.
@UpcountryUltra
@UpcountryUltra 2 күн бұрын
I haven't worn my cargo bibs since... ha. For a laugh, check out the TR tread with people complaining about the $300 Rule28 Aero Gravel suit's lack of cargo pockets. 🙄
@Shadowboost
@Shadowboost 2 күн бұрын
No bullshit, I have Sugoi RS Pro bibs and Zap Century bibs, which are essentially the same other than the cargo pockets. I am measurably slower with the cargo bibs
@dusty_hoods
@dusty_hoods 2 күн бұрын
They are not the same. I have bibs with cargo pockets shifted backwards so they are kinda hiding behind the leg. (It was designed on purpose)
@brettbolam6671
@brettbolam6671 2 күн бұрын
Sitting on the trainer wobbling my way toward Peaks - great to hear my regular indoor efforts are going to do more for me than a 6-10hr spanking 😂
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling 2 күн бұрын
Thanks man. Keep up the grid and don’t get fooled by those people on strava doing the 10 hour slop “Peaks Training”.
@chasepalpatine170
@chasepalpatine170 Күн бұрын
1:30:48, hilarious, “I’ll slot in behind him and come over the top of him”. 😂😂😂 You guys!
@_gregvalencia
@_gregvalencia 2 күн бұрын
I'm excited for the guests! I always loved hearing the different people you've had on in the past. As a roadie who also enjoys the Bonk Bros Podcast, I would love for you guys to have Dylan Johnson on so he can sell Jesse on the gravel kool-aid and convert Chris to mountain bike tires for gravel
@philadams9254
@philadams9254 3 күн бұрын
Wow, Jesse looks LEAN in that old footage, like *Durianrider* lean 😮
@markdinnie6503
@markdinnie6503 2 күн бұрын
Durianrider would 100% had his shirt off!
@specialblend218
@specialblend218 15 сағат бұрын
Loved the show. Been watching it religously while zwifitng. Patrick Lino was a great guest. Looking forward to more guests, bro science, and cycling stories. It would be cool to bring a bike fitter on the show with a bike reviewer guest to analyze positions when discussing stack/reach/sizing.
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling 11 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, glad you're enjoying the show!
@AlpenDitrix
@AlpenDitrix 2 күн бұрын
First upload of the year, I reckon that's just the right time to start the race to 100K subs
@jonahking5566
@jonahking5566 2 күн бұрын
lol I’m that 21 year old wondering if my pro potential is fleeting. Jesse is very motivational to encourage me achieving some more results even if I know it wont put a pro contract in front of me.
@lunam7249
@lunam7249 17 сағат бұрын
whats your TT times? , 1 hour flat ride time? sustain ave... 24 mph minimum, most tour riders are 27- 30mph AVERAGE!!! for 1 hour!!!INSANE!!!
@leon.a.t
@leon.a.t 2 күн бұрын
Jesse's stage win story was so good. 'Coyle's off' 😂
@orangebangmang
@orangebangmang Сағат бұрын
Jesse’s bit on preparation vs. training was really helpful for an out of shape cyclist trying to get healthy and better on the bike! Thanks guys!
@JDomed-so4rl
@JDomed-so4rl 3 күн бұрын
Been binge watching this podcast for the last few months. Amazing content 👏
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling 2 күн бұрын
Glad you’re enjoying the show!
@ItCanAlwaysBeLouder
@ItCanAlwaysBeLouder 2 күн бұрын
Loved last weeks episode and cant wait for more guest chat! 🙌
@mitchlabrador
@mitchlabrador 2 сағат бұрын
😂 “you can already get lighter bikes… buy an old one” brilliant from Jesse 😂🤣 29:49
@justsomedude7556
@justsomedude7556 Күн бұрын
Ive been using the 35mm as my road tire setup on my gravel bike and they are lovely riding tires. For crappy road surface they are fantastic. Have rought 1200k on them and they still look brand new
@melbournecyclingsegments7510
@melbournecyclingsegments7510 Күн бұрын
If your in Adelaide, there's some local dude with a collection of old bikes he reckons are pretty quick
@woofenzo
@woofenzo 3 күн бұрын
I got the 40mm Pirelli from BikeBug in early December - on the gravel bike so it can get more use as a commuter so I’m happy.
@paulaus
@paulaus 3 күн бұрын
This would be my use case. Maintain the rolling diameter but faster tread and look badass while at it 😂
@johncoates6039
@johncoates6039 3 күн бұрын
I just got a set of 35mm conti GP Urbans as another alternative for my gravel bike. Should be plenty for 80% pavement 20% jumping curbs,lime stone paths and garbage roads.
@adamchalmers9521
@adamchalmers9521 2 күн бұрын
Nero suit ‘the one suit to do it all!!’ Well done guys.
@fitbikeco3421
@fitbikeco3421 2 күн бұрын
Specialized are doing demo rides on the sl8 during TDU. Check it out!
@trentbowman2166
@trentbowman2166 2 күн бұрын
100% agree with jesse at the start, i never used to be a massive fan of some of the guest videos. However recently i have absolutely loved every single regular and guest episode that has been released teaching me more about this amazing sport. Dont know how but every episode just seems to get better and better, keep it up lads! 🤙
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling 2 күн бұрын
Thanks so much, we appreciate it!
@outdoorbros_
@outdoorbros_ 2 күн бұрын
You're spot-on with the CGM/Supersapiens chat. I wore one for 10 days and it's neat for 48 hours, but there just isn't a lot of actionable data other than realizing that your body naturally does an exceptional job at managing your blood glucose. Also, you have to ride the 40mm Pirelli PZERO Race TLR's- videos and talking points don't do them justice. Cheers, boys.
@8rk
@8rk 2 күн бұрын
Would be cool to see you on Nero Show soon!
@chrishophoto
@chrishophoto 3 күн бұрын
Interesting setup on that Giant in the background. Jessy has a monster chain ring on that bike. So big that it looks like all of the teeth on the cassette were transferred over to it! Also, congratulations on the new shelf to display product.
@Highway_95
@Highway_95 2 күн бұрын
If you ever make it to Idaho my SL8 is all yours. RTP S-Works frameset built with DA and ENVE 4.5s.
@ultimatist
@ultimatist 2 күн бұрын
Thanks, I'll call you!
@nickdowdall
@nickdowdall 3 күн бұрын
The SL8: You mentioned you want to try an SL8. I just got a custom build, standard SL8 (56) frame with a S-works build, Red, CLXII, full bit. First performance bike I have owned. Been riding an endurance bike doing Fondos, but started dipping my toe in short road races, crits (age grouper). I expected the SL8 to be fast, but to have significant issues with comfort and ride position. Yep, it's fast (i'm not btw), but the huge surprise is that it rides very smooth and is possibly more comfortable than my endurance bike using the same GP5000 S TR 30mm tires. I am having to do some neck strengthening due to the lower front end. Overall, I love this bike and I really tried to be a specialized hater. Not sure what special sauce Specialized uses, but I am full Cool-Aid at this point.
@ChristianPetilli
@ChristianPetilli 2 күн бұрын
You guys are starting to sound like Dylan Johnson! Thanks for the episode and consistently good content
@cycling-john
@cycling-john 3 күн бұрын
I used a continuous blood glucose monitor to train for the New York City Marathon. What I learned from wearing it is this: 1.) You want to fuel before the race, but you don't want to spike insulin. If you over fuel, you'll start the race in a glucose deficit. 2.) At my marathon pace, I need one gel every four miles to stay within in my target glucose range (60-90 grams of carbs an hour). However, this will change based on intensity. At half marathon pace, it's one gel every three miles (90 grams of carbs an hour). In triathlon I'm consuming 120-150 grams of carbs an hour. You could wear a CGM 2-3 times to have a baseline of how your body used glucose.
@lunam7249
@lunam7249 4 сағат бұрын
interesting, start a data group
@arnaud7536
@arnaud7536 Күн бұрын
Love the new suit! Should we expect a black bib soon? Big block letter “NERO” on each leg and small in the lower back would look so nice!
@MrGaryPeace
@MrGaryPeace 2 күн бұрын
regarding peaks: would like to hear what you think is the right training (rather than preparation)
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling Күн бұрын
Bumping up that 5-10 min power
@labelos
@labelos 3 күн бұрын
Regarding the mechanical groupset tech trend, I think we'll see Shimano release their drop bar version of the Cues. The current Tiagra is almost 9 years old now. I'm not sure if it qualifies as a trend, but it will be a bit of fresh air for the entry level bike.
@faith_yar
@faith_yar 2 күн бұрын
Love the new colourway!
@DJMSydney
@DJMSydney Күн бұрын
Cargo bibs on my 5hr+ endurance rides and for all Fondo’s has been a revelation for me. The thigh pockets & smaller rear pockets allow me to carry all my hydro tabs and fuel. I don’t feel the items in the pockets whilst riding and accessing a partially eaten bar or some lollies from the thigh pocket is easier than jersey rear pockets. They’re worth a try on your longer rides!
@BevandEdMusic
@BevandEdMusic 2 күн бұрын
I'm looking forward to the on/off format. It'll give you the chance for more news and only the best stuff for the non interview weeks!
@8rk
@8rk 2 күн бұрын
If Chris ever finds himself in the Bay Area, CA again, he can borrow my SL8 in size 52 for the duration of his trip 😊. We might need to source a longer stemmed roval bar for him (115 stem might not cut it) but it’s probably close - Gurk
@natheirabu-dahab1446
@natheirabu-dahab1446 2 күн бұрын
They don’t make a longer than 115 stem for a 38 so you’ll have to go third party
@8rk
@8rk Күн бұрын
@@natheirabu-dahab1446 I know. I meant 40cm bar. I think stem length is way more crucial than a bar that's a little wider than what you like. You could do the tarmac stem + roval rapide bar to stay on brand and judge the bike properly but i feel like one piece bar definitely rides different / better.
@DavidStacey-tx7on
@DavidStacey-tx7on 10 сағат бұрын
This wide tyre thing is getting ridiculous. We are on full carbon framesets, wheels and still the ride isnt 'soft' enough, meanwhile the weight of the bikes and equipment increases.
@buckcram5908
@buckcram5908 2 күн бұрын
Guest wishlist: Safa Brian, Josh Poertner, Gerard Vroomen, and Durianrider.
@eto2352
@eto2352 Күн бұрын
Please none of those. I hope this doesn't turn into another youtuber jerkoff fest interviewing each other. That's a sure way to kill the channel. Nero has been good about highlighting micro or non-western tubers and voices that tie into Nero's topics. Pat Lino was great as a bigger channel. Tour magazine was a great insight into often referenced material. I hope they talk to fresh voices and keep the cycling space alive and growing.
@jubeman
@jubeman Күн бұрын
more like a sh!t list with Durian in there. should be a no d!ckhead policy.
@MrJohnnyTN
@MrJohnnyTN 2 күн бұрын
Surprised neither of you want to try the BMC Teammachine R
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling Күн бұрын
Don't me wrong, I would love to ride it. But it's probably not the in the top 3 just because it's still quite a niche bike when compared to the SL8/Madone etc.
@andrewsimms5180
@andrewsimms5180 3 күн бұрын
Absolutely love the previous version Nero suit! Got mine recently and raced it over the weekend! Any chance of sharing the supplier?
@josephdunbar2105
@josephdunbar2105 3 күн бұрын
Best video I’ve seen on speed, power width is a video here on KZbin from NorCal Cycling with guest crit pro Will Harden. Very comprehensive, entertaining and helpful.
@thetinusnl8834
@thetinusnl8834 3 күн бұрын
Which one?
@josephdunbar2105
@josephdunbar2105 3 күн бұрын
@ NorCal cycling, “How Wide is Too Wide”. Great video with charts
@josephdunbar2105
@josephdunbar2105 3 күн бұрын
@ BTW, great channel for serious crit video
@thetinusnl8834
@thetinusnl8834 2 күн бұрын
@@josephdunbar2105 Yeah I was aware of Jeff's channel. Not into most of his videos though. Will watch the tire width one, cheers for providing.
@Over50sroadie
@Over50sroadie 3 күн бұрын
Skinsuit ordered for Switzerland... Naturally I will expect a full refund if it doesnt add 50W to my FTP or I lose the cafe sprint...
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling 2 күн бұрын
It will have you freewheeling turns at your fastest group ride or your money back 😂
@Over50sroadie
@Over50sroadie 2 күн бұрын
@@ChrisMillerCycling 😄
@bitminerbob6731
@bitminerbob6731 2 күн бұрын
You have converted me to wider tyres. I just put 30mm tyres on my new Canyon Aeroad CFR. Loving it so far. Running 65psi for social rides. Feels lush. What pressure should I do crit races on smooth hot mix? Keep it the same pressure or increase the pressure for the racing? Thanks.
@SweAussie
@SweAussie 2 күн бұрын
Guest requests 2025: - Dylan J - David A - Jeff NorCal - EJ NorCal - DC Rainmaker
@grumpytex1970
@grumpytex1970 2 күн бұрын
And Peak torque
@clarklowe5632
@clarklowe5632 17 сағат бұрын
As a bigger guy riding on rough roads. I love running GP5000 35 now. I think that is what I am going to be going with for now if the bike I am riding accepts them. Between my different bikes I am running 28, 32 and 35s . Love the 35s the most.
@bigring5113
@bigring5113 2 күн бұрын
Will you be inspecting our bikes at TDU and handing out Nero Approved stickers? I think my Helios A9X with FAR sports S5’s may pass. Also, be sure to include Knotts Hill - Pound Rd climb (part of stage 3) on your Nortons - Basket Range loop. 🤙🏻
@Dontsayyouwill87
@Dontsayyouwill87 2 күн бұрын
can you guys revisit tubeless and how you would go about set up ,best products etc ,
@matthews24
@matthews24 2 күн бұрын
Congrats on another nice episode... I have been running 35 mm GP5000 AS TR tyres, at 40 to 50 psi, on the new Canyon Aeroad CFR for the past 6 weeks (yes, they fit!)... Way more comfortable but they definitely do not feel as fast as 28, 30 or 32 mm... I did one crit race with the 35 mm tyres and I felt less confident going around corners fast, maybe because you lose the feel of the road surface... Sprinting and acceleration out of corners was also not nearly as good--the All Season version of the GP5000s are significantly heavier than regular GP5000s... I will probably go back to 32 mm, even before the end of winter... The 35 mm will likely be good for my longer Audax and Ultra rides, especially when road surfaces are not so good. Finally, I am 100% using the 35 mm tyres in the Tour of Flanders Sportive in April 😉
@htukmumfie
@htukmumfie 2 күн бұрын
My contradiction to your fondo training rant is for fondos with climbs over 20% where you are out the saddle yanking on the bars just to move forward requires training using similar climbs (like Fred whitton). Otherwise your arms simply collapse through lack of strength during the fondo.
@andrewbusch6022
@andrewbusch6022 2 күн бұрын
yes but you would be doing that in training? training doesn't mean you're stuck indoors
@shaheedosman5635
@shaheedosman5635 3 күн бұрын
I couldn’t agree more on your Peaks prep vs train. We have a Double Century every year end Nov in South Africa. Team time trial with 12 in a team and we usually start training July Aug. You are responsible in the week for your own training and every Sun we get together as a team and do the 100+ ride to prepare. We slowly ramp it up to 150 with climbs mixed in and a month before we do a 160km race as a team to set our final target for Nov to see where we are, team dynamics, etc.
@cookxride
@cookxride 3 күн бұрын
Well, to Jesse's point: if it's not the same casing, then the comparison is really not that useful. If you go to Bicycle Rolling Resistance and check the difference that equally named tires in different casing versions regularly have, it's possible that a fair chunk of the 12 watts comes from that fact alone.
@TwoWheelFamilia
@TwoWheelFamilia 2 күн бұрын
Can confirm. The aeroelf rides like this everyday. Changes the decals on the wheels depending on his mood. He goes well for a 60+ YO
@smshing_lee
@smshing_lee 2 күн бұрын
Those nano.worx mount are next level
@doctorscoot
@doctorscoot 2 күн бұрын
I just have to question Pirelli a little bit about those tyres. Remember these are the P-Zero _Race_ TLR. Who the hell has a _race_ bike that will take a 40mm tyre? Pirelli have a bunch of editions of the P-Zero including _Race 4S_ and _Road_ - you’d think one of those series would be more suited to a 40mm edition. Especially if they beefed it up and didn’t make it as supple as the other Race series tyres.
@bevillenz
@bevillenz Күн бұрын
Bike manufactures that are producing bikes in 2025, or even releasing new models in 2025, with 30mm max tire clearance are crazy.
@Gramkan
@Gramkan 2 күн бұрын
Please keep the Nero approved segment
@specbicycles
@specbicycles 2 күн бұрын
Now you boys can See FTP just by looking at the guys bike, I Love it ❤😂
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling Күн бұрын
HAHA!!!
@andreal1647
@andreal1647 3 күн бұрын
Wow, RedBull! Now thats what I call a sponsor. Congrats guys, well deserved.
@coralsaddiction4598
@coralsaddiction4598 Күн бұрын
Even my 35s are on the slower side. More grip and comfort tho. I think 32 is the sweet spot
@runnf204
@runnf204 Күн бұрын
Please make jersey version of the nero suit 🙏🏾
@EMC2Scotia
@EMC2Scotia 2 күн бұрын
I use 700x25 tyres on my road bike and they are fine. Why should I consider using anything wider?
@lunam7249
@lunam7249 4 сағат бұрын
700c x 23mm@100psi , my fave and fastest for road, velodrome = 700c x19mm @ 120psi
@EL-dw6ws
@EL-dw6ws Күн бұрын
chris great photo with the new nero suit, you are the ultimate welder.
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling Күн бұрын
Fact
@kpizzle1985
@kpizzle1985 Күн бұрын
There are still people that think a 23mm tyre is the fastest, quite a lot of them, it's insane.
@lunam7249
@lunam7249 4 сағат бұрын
yep, 23mm at the highest psi, for streets i run 100psi but 120psi is even faster
@conalodonoghue7147
@conalodonoghue7147 2 күн бұрын
What wheels do you have on the Giant bike hanging behind you? I still ride a rim brake bike (Tarmac SL6) and looking to update my wheels. As you would expect, the options are limited compared to disc brake wheels.
@LukeGJPotter
@LukeGJPotter Күн бұрын
The Internet thinks your bike is Fast. 😂
@ArtyHardwick
@ArtyHardwick 2 күн бұрын
Miller on the S5 vs The #aeroelf …. PP Chop is calling 😂
@10ktube
@10ktube 6 сағат бұрын
Does the Nero show now have access to Primoz for a top tier interview? Big news boys, congrats and long time viewer/listener here.
@crapilanofridge7745
@crapilanofridge7745 2 күн бұрын
Closest 'do it all' to the SL8.....how is that not the super six evo? I'm sure you guys can get around that :)
@SweAussie
@SweAussie 2 күн бұрын
Morning is saved, new Nero Show episode ❤. Love the interviews as well though 🙏
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling 2 күн бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
@SweAussie
@SweAussie 2 күн бұрын
@@ChrisMillerCycling more comments for the Algo = 100k ❤
@maurobaldini4582
@maurobaldini4582 2 күн бұрын
You guys need to ride up Norton Summit with 40mm tires and beat DR’s time 😂😂😂
@Mg67890BFF
@Mg67890BFF 2 күн бұрын
Izalco has to go up Nortons with Durian Rider!
@PedroPrego
@PedroPrego 3 күн бұрын
The 40c tires are slower on a 20min course (I guess this was the time). Some theorize that more rubber equals more confort (which david arthur confirmed it was more confortable) and more confort means more energy on the long run, thus more power. Unfortunately, for one to test such hypothesis, the test course would have to be... 100 miles. It is unpractical to perform such test. We can also not claim the theory is wrong. The new gravel zipp wheels are supposed to be made for 40c tires.
@dermitdemkuchentanzt4026
@dermitdemkuchentanzt4026 2 күн бұрын
his testing as most of testing of clycling content on you tube are over all absolut bullshit , testing rolling resistence on a 20min course for starters with a "normal" powermeter outside ....
@lunam7249
@lunam7249 4 сағат бұрын
mm NOT c
@Fyffyz
@Fyffyz 2 күн бұрын
Durian rider has an sl8 its disc he will probably give it to you.
@gokaygs
@gokaygs 2 күн бұрын
One has to be used to riding on extremely squishy tires to even begin to assume or think that 28mm on 60psi would be the fastest tire width and pressure combo😅
@lunam7249
@lunam7249 4 сағат бұрын
yep 28mm @ 60 psi are sleeping pillows for me!!😂😂🎉😂🎉 my fave 700cx23@100psi real streets
@tonyd5111
@tonyd5111 Күн бұрын
If a tour rider has complained that the teams bikes are too heavy . . you need lighter bikes or ones that hit the 6.8kg limit bang on. Don't think many do and anything over is uneccessarily heavy.
@WesleyHurrell
@WesleyHurrell 2 күн бұрын
Oh and thanks for calling me young guy. At 47, that's the best compliment ever!
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling Күн бұрын
HAHA!!! We missed you at Heffron the other week, the entire breakaway was 40+ years of age 😁
@9psi
@9psi 2 күн бұрын
Best climb prep I used to do was 90mins on the tops on a velodrome.
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling 2 күн бұрын
100% can be done, and i would argue it makes you stronger then just slopping up climbs.
@ridebyron4247
@ridebyron4247 2 күн бұрын
As a type 1 - using a cgm is key to fuelling a ride. Alerts when bsl is going up or down really quickly and it’s changed how fuel, thus feel on longer rides.
@aleksarajkovic3471
@aleksarajkovic3471 3 күн бұрын
6:10 I wouldn't recommend putting your phone in bib pockets, first thing to hit in a crash, don't ask me how I know😂
@johnh-lk8lw
@johnh-lk8lw 2 күн бұрын
Cargo pocket is good for phone. Better than bib
@nickporter3531
@nickporter3531 2 күн бұрын
Most country roads in the UK 🇬🇧 look like this… a wider tire is useful in these crap conditions!
@Andy_ATB
@Andy_ATB 2 күн бұрын
I'd say it's a necessity........
@_cpdchua
@_cpdchua 3 күн бұрын
Cargo bib shorts are very underrated! Once you try it, you never go back. Getting things in and out is a lot easier than reaching for your back
@Shadowboost
@Shadowboost 2 күн бұрын
Not really, my legs are moving. My back isn't
@DJMSydney
@DJMSydney Күн бұрын
@@Shadowboostthen stop riding a fixie………
@timtaylor9590
@timtaylor9590 3 күн бұрын
25mm tires and still faster than 30 on smooth roads, i wouldn't say comfort is a factor but speed is
@fleurdelispens
@fleurdelispens 2 күн бұрын
I think more mechanical groupsets are coming, but they're not at all in y'all's space. I think we're gonna see CUES for road this year, and a bunch of indie component makers are working on mechanical groupsets for us hipster types. For example, Growtac has new friction-shifting brifters, and Rivendell is working on a rapid rise derailleur
@kleen00
@kleen00 2 күн бұрын
Re: CGMs - I’ve noticed my blood glucose regulation on the bike is poor when I’m way overreached / overtrained. Lots of peaks up to 200 and dips below 80, and fueling strategies won’t fix it. When training is going well, blood glucose on the bike is stable to the point where I can’t draw any real conclusions about changes in fueling strategies.
@overbikedrandonneuring
@overbikedrandonneuring 2 күн бұрын
Check the bottom of that bicycle rolling resistance article. When equalized for comfort via tire drop, the gp5000 tires of different widths perform about the same. 35 mil tire pumped up high will ride like an old 25. Waste of a wide tire to not run low pressure. Surprising comfort from 30mm on the low end of their pressure range.
@chrishophoto
@chrishophoto 3 күн бұрын
I think the feeling of a wider tire feeling slower on crappy roads may be the greater amount of rebound in a larger tire. A larger tire at a lower tire pressure is going to deform more on impact and spring back more at slow speeds. I think that is the sensation that Chris is experiencing at the lower speeds.
@MrMattie725
@MrMattie725 2 күн бұрын
I bought the 30mm Pirelli P zero TLR after some research because they seemed the best performance tire with decent wet grip and puncture protection. Impossible to get on a rim though... so switched them for the GP5000 S TR. Because we can actually buy them here :D
@lovenottheworld5723
@lovenottheworld5723 3 күн бұрын
Those 40mm tyres would work great on the Surly CrossCheck. Massive speed improvement. Must get some.
@paulaus
@paulaus 3 күн бұрын
You can walk into any Chemist Warehouse and buy an Abbot Freestyle CGM and get real-time Blood Glucose on the phone app. There's no pass thru to Wahoo as Supersapiens shut down at the beginning of 24. CGM is going over the counter in the USA this year wheras they were previously prescription only which is why they might think it will be big this year?
@aliounendayziga8669
@aliounendayziga8669 3 күн бұрын
Sponsored by red bull???? Good job guys
@suliom2258
@suliom2258 14 сағат бұрын
Chris, are you taking your aero helmet to the TDU??😉😊
@ChrisMillerCycling
@ChrisMillerCycling 11 сағат бұрын
The procein air? No chance 😂
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