Christening of Philip of Austria (Maximilian)

[@Alounas]

Mary said: “Sir, look at your son and our child, young Philip of imperial seed.” Maximilian kissed the baby, and replied, “O noble Burgundian blood, my offspring, named after Philip of Valois.” ❤

[@xxwhispersxx2856]

I love the moment at 4:00 where Maximilian and Margaret switch sides so he is at Mary's right. The consort is always the right-hand of the ruler, their number one supporter. A nice touch.

[@shimanopetermann9068]

Maximilian wasn't just a consort, though. He was by right of marriage the actual ruler of Burgundy because in those times, a wife - even a Duchess in her own right - had to defer to her husband. The reason why he is walking behind Mary at all is probably because she was carrying Philipp. From the moment of his birth, Philipp was the rightful Duke and ruler of Burgundy with his father now only being regent in his place until he was old enough.

[@Belinda8881]

Mary showing her baby for everybody to see that he was a boy is a very cute scene and rather unexpected during the christening, I think.

[@cg8397]

That didn't happen in real life. The hymn used at the end is also an anachronism. "Domine secundum actum meum" was composed in 1575 by the English Catholic composer William Byrd. It also wouldn't be used at a Baptism, it's part of the Responsory for the Dead.

[@baileygr2008]

@@cg8397 Margaret of York held him up as the christening party left St Donat, proving to everyone that he was a male and ending Louis XI’s rumour of Philip being a girl, did she not

[@stoker1931jane]

That is why those who stand guard, always have their backs turned on royal processions while looking "outwards" over and into the crowd, watching for someone with bad intent.

[@MichSherl]

Ugh those lords are getting on my nerves, so haughty and sour faces! I love the pomp and imagery of the christening, also Mary' speech was great! Thanks for posting!!

[@scottibrown3274]

I doubt that someone would try to assassinate a Duke Consort in the House of God, especially during a baptism. I love the look on Margaret’s face when Maximilian said that they will open the baptism mass to the public and she just utters in shocked confusion, “what?” Still in love with the costumes of this show, especially the outfit Maximilian is wearing during the baptism

[@annstillwell730]

Well the times were just as violent and unperdictable as they are now. You have Thomas Becket who was an Archbishop and saint murder in a cathedral while saying mass. You don't get more taboo then that and Robert the Bruce killed his rival in a church and that was considered herectical as well. So totally believable.

[@isobelduncan]

Historically there were a couple of attempts on Maximilian's life but there's no record of one taking place during Philip's baptism.

[@soso8112]

Ça je ne sais pas. À la même époque environ un Médicis a été assassiné en pleine messe de Pâques.

[@douglasharley2440]

@@annstillwell730 good points, all...but those times were *far* more violent and uncertain than anytime anyone alive remembers, except for possibly ww2.

[@antoinemozart243]

He was a saint AFTER his murder.

[@umsula]

Thus began the Line of Hapsburg. ❤️ this show!

[@baileygr2008]

The Line of Habsburg had begun a couple centuries before

[@marsnz1002]

Funny how someone just makes something up and sheep just upvote it despite a 5 second google search showing that the Habsburgs had been around for 350 years at the time of this series.

[@p.muskett2931]

They existed as austrian dukes but the famous massive habsburg empire begins here indeed

[@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913]

Is this baby the future husband of Juana de Castilla, mother of Carlos I of Spain and V of Germany?

[@stefaanvandecappelle3336]

@@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913 yes.. Mary was buried in the Church of our Lady in Bruges, and her son Philipp in the Capilla Real in Granada, but his heart was taken out and placed on the lead coffin of his mom in Bruges... there is glass plate on the floor in front of her tomb where you can see her coffin and Philipp's heart in a small box on top

[@catherinemartell2873]

The crowd is so dry wth

[@jeanfish7]

" All praise the wee pe pe!":)

[@yxx_chris_xxy]

Anyone else feel like a little ... giggle?

[@juliebriggs643]

Unfortunately, the words of the baptism ceremony would have been in Latin, not German!

[@Magdalenkaization]

Shouldn't the formula of christening be told in Latin? They are Roman Catholics.

[@Belinda8881]

You are right. Services in Latin ended in the second part of the 20th century in the Catholic Church.

[@cg8397]

@@Belinda8881 Nope, there are still Latin services available in many dioceses. It's still the official language of the Catholic Church.

[@Belinda8881]

@@cg8397 Really? I didn´t know that. Perhaps on special Catholic Festivities days ?

[@baileygr2008]

I imagine they portrayed it in German so that people would understand

[@נעםמרקוביץ]

Hey Lili, when Philip grew up, who did he resemble? Like Maximilian or Mary? Because i remember learning that the Habsburgs of 12-15 century lack the known jaw that later Habsburgs were known for

[@Lily1127channel]

I think he resembled Mary more. He inherited his pretty facial features from Mary. Maximilian was not a particularly handsome man, unlike Philip.

[@נעםמרקוביץ]

@@Lily1127channel but he wasn't a bad looking like his grandchildren of his family no?

[@נעםמרקוביץ]

Also it's seems like only charles had a the Habsburg jaw, Ferdinand and some of the sister seem like they didn't inherented the jaw, or they did?

[@Lily1127channel]

Yeah the Habsburg jaw starting(?) from Charles V is a curious case. It is usually said that the Habsburg jaw was because of the dynasty's infamous inbreeding - but then, the first famous Habsburg jaw example is Charles V, who himself was not really inbred. His parents Joanna of Castile and Philip the Fair were both very good looking people, without a trace of anything similar to the Habsburg jaw, and they were not closely related at all. Maximilian was not as handsome as his son Philip but neither was he ugly, he had strong masculine features. Mary was beautiful. Charles's siblings didn't have his distinctive jaw either. So Charles's case looks like a unique gene mutilation occurring at his conception only.

[@lexigrimhaive]

@@Lily1127channel After Charles, tho, the inbreeding began in serious earnest (tho don’t forget that Isabella & Ferdinand were cousins): Charles married his first cousin, his son Philip married his first cousin then later his niece...

[@sophiekerst5346]

That someone really dared back then to stab someone in a church lmao

[@cameronmontgomery915]

Same happened in Medici

[@podcastler]

Robert the bruce killed his opponent john comlyn in the church

[@christianwouters6764]

Every scene of this series is in darkness. Even in the Gothic cathedral. And everyone is clad in a sort of leathery bikers' outfit. While illustrations of the time document about the bright colours worn.

[@douglasharley2440]

in order to perceive color, there must be abundant light...lol, there simply wasn't much light in the interiors of large buildings 500+ years ago, so even if things _are_ colorful, they cannot appear colorful.

[@mojojojo789]

What show is this from?

[@Lily1127channel]

Maximilian

[@mojojojo789]

@@Lily1127channel Perfect! I love your edits!!!

[@Lily1127channel]

Thank you! ❤

[@mojojojo789]

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[@Lily1127channel]

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[@schattensand]

Assasination attempts in churches were not so rare. In Florence 1478 the Pazzi family killed a son of the Medici duke at service. The greater number of that family became executed.

[@sofia7321]

Why do they speack a different language? How do they understand eachother?

[@jynxbron2620]

It's like you know your own language and english at the same time.

[@baileygr2008]

They speak multiple languages

[@MrDJdo]

I think it would have been really complicated for the creators of the series to use all the appropriate languages of that time. Mary of Burgundy and the Burgondian court and the nobility at the time spoke mainly French (old French). But she also spoke latin and the language of the local people of Flanders, Brabant etc... which was an old form of Dutch/Flemisch called Dietsch. I have read French and Dietsch chronicles from that time and you really need some training to be able to understand it all because many words are written differently or aren't used anymore in modern French and Flemisch. I'm not a specialist in German but i suspect it also has evolved since that time. From what I have read in the beginning Mary may have communicated with Maximilian in Latin??? but later on he learned French from her and he taught her German. So in conclusion i would say that if they wanted it to be historically accurate Mary and her court would speak old French or Dietsch, Jan Van Coppenolle from Ghent and other wealthy citizens and merchants from Flanders Dietsch and old French and the Germans maybe an oldr form of German. The actors would have had to learn those old tongues and subtitles for all the viewers of the series cause nobody would have understood a thing ;)

[@MsRedfield97]

Why in the fuck all is everyone disappointed that Mary gave birth to a son? O_O

[@xxwhispersxx2856]

They'd have reason to oust her.

[@olyamereacre3326]

I think Jan Copenhole is to blame for this attempted murder 🤔

[@GabyHernandez-rv3vo]

😮❤

[@olyamereacre3326]

How can someone stab a good person, a duke consort in the church!?

[@lucieelizabethannwesson7016]

Father of Charles V the holy Roman empire

[@joefriday8607]

When Europe was Christian and powerful.

[@wickedwonderland9831]

I'm curious, as opposed to being what now? 😂 And back then, compared to what the Chinese or Ottoman empire was doing culture wise, this can be considered barbaric.

[@MisterL2_yt]

@@wickedwonderland9831 now we are christian and still powerful

[@attysthoughts3253]

@@wickedwonderland9831 central europe was more advanced in many ways than the chinese and ottomans. they had more people, especially the chinese, but outside their capitals where wealth and power consolidated, they were only ''advanced in hindsight''. especially the chinese

[@cg8397]

@@wickedwonderland9831 How is this barbaric compared to the Ottomans? Ottoman men had female sex slaves permanently imprisoned in a harem and guarded by castrated male slaves.

[@azazel166]

Yes, so powerful that it got flattened by a bunch of rats and fleas on top of bickering kingdoms.