Christian Nationalism | Voddie Baucham

[@epifunny1]

God's been good to us!

[@MP15aug]

We are members of the kingdom of God. That is the nation we should see ourselves as being part of. After all who's army are you apart of, Christ or the nations.

[@heartofalegend]

I'm sorry, but did you even LISTEN to this message? If you say yes, I don't believe you. Your false binary is precisely what Voddie dealt with and thoroughly debunked as just that. Deal with his treatment of this topic and explain where his reasoning was off, and then you'll have credibility. Anyone can just sit back with their arms folded, choose to ignore an argument, and just keep asserting their opinion. Atheists do it all the time. Do better, please.

[@Blue_Dun]

@@MP15aug I know your comment is old, but I just had to reply with...you NAILED IT. The policy objectives of the current politicians in the US who are so-called "Christian Nationalists" are dangerous to a multi-cultural democracy for both Chistians and non-Christians. I can see that...even as someone who has been a Christian my whole life.

[@Symone77]

Many people speaking on Christian nationalism who doesn’t really understand what it is. Too much intellectualism. I agree with your comment. If God doesn’t give a revelation, people won’t understand your comment. On the day of Pentecost, a nation was born in a day. That nation is all people truly in Christ. It is not defined by borders, witty inventions of man, or carnal motives of men. I don’t need to add nationalist to anything. Just acknowledging me as a Christian wanting to hear well done my good & faithful servant one day, is good enough for me. Now I want out of my belly to flow rivers of living water, that might bring others to Christ, regardless of their current religion, color, or country. I’m not wanting to control or oppress anyone. Only to lead them to Christ and let the Lord raise them up.

[@dallasburns677]

Wake up from your delusional thinking

[@jan-matthisweng4437]

@@Symone77I'm wondering why you wrote you agree with Blue_Dun. If the country is an unimportant issue and controlling and oppressing others is bad, then to me it seems you're not only against CN, but you're against politics in and of itself, because politics is always and by it's nature about country, ideology, and about controlling and oppressing others. If politics and government and legislation is bad, it follows CN is, because it is a way to do politics and government and legislation. But IF politics is bad, why agree with Blue_Dun in the need of a defense of "a multi-cultural democracy", which is just another way of doing politics? Isn't a "multi-cultural democracy" bad, too, because it, too, is about country and control etc.? Then why defend it against those endangering it? Shouldn't you be largely neutral/indifferent towards the issue, wouldn't that be more consistent?

[@Hakeem597]

"Christianity is not ethnic in nature. Christianity is rooted and grounded in the Gospel that calls ALL men everywhere to repent. Christianity does not force men to worship. Christianity recognizes that men are called BY FAITH to worship God!" -Voddie Baucham

[@kevinskinner4986]

"Christianity does not force men to worship." Then he's going to hell for lying, because the only reason you are a world power is because you spent centuries forcing people to worship with a sword pressed against their throats.

[@LindaHarris-q5w]

Christianity can't call anyone to JESUS only GOD ALMIGHTY ! can do that ,Christianity it was meant to identify you as a follower of JESUS CHRIST only , but then they turn it into a religious that you don't have to repent , and you can choose your own idols and believeth. GOD call His children saints and not Christians , that got started by the enemy of JESUS CHRIST .

[@IAmNotAshamedOfTheGospel]

@@LindaHarris-q5w so your saying just sit back! Jesus calls us to preach the cross!

[@allwillberevealed777]

Repent from what? The Law was only given to Israel.

[@kathygallegos2502]

​@@IAmNotAshamedOfTheGospelno you cannot just sit back. You have to share your faith.

[@caitlin6151]

The Christians who really need to listen to this message and let it settle down in their hearts, will not do it. Some of them have forgotten that Jesus said I will build MY Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. He did not say America will build my church.

[@KARMICHAEL11]

But no one can argue He hasn’t been using America to do it. As long as the tool submits to use, it will remain in use, and that is a blessed position to be in!

[@isaacscott1063]

@@KARMICHAEL11 you’re the type person she’s talking. There are nations more godly than America.

[@irksomebenji4543]

@@KARMICHAEL11 well said, America is definitely being used by god.

[@josiahvega671]

@@KARMICHAEL11 and he’s used China, and India and others. What’s your point?

[@KARMICHAEL11]

@@josiahvega671 to respond to the false dichotomy of the original comment.

[@richard-fy2mu]

We are citizens of the Kingdoms of God living in the city of men. I am not here to build a man-made Kingdom, but I am a citizen living in America and unless the loyalty to America violates loyalty to Christ, I will defend my nation from all enemies foreign or domestic. It does not make me anything other than a Christian living in America. God first, family second, country third, all else forth.

[@PhilLarson1956]

This is a complete misunderstanding of Augustine's City of God. For him, the two cities are the seed of Cain vs. the seed of Seth. The two are nowhere mixed. Read Augustine for yourself. Sadly, some "scholars" from significant seminaries make the same error. Just read Augustine for yourself if you want to use this language.

[@KrisStaton]

I agree Richard, well stated.

[@richard-fy2mu]

@@KrisStaton I apologize for being slow to say thanks but had a serious medical event. I will have to leave the battles to younger ones now.

[@KrisStaton]

@@richard-fy2mu May God heal and protect you

[@strsocerplaya9]

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD" Psalm 33:12

[@HotWheelsChaplain]

When the identity of anything- the individual, the ethnicity, the government, or the nation- is viewed as superior or more important than the standard of God's revelation, sin is rampant and through that sin under the judgment of God. Salvation through faith in Christ should be the only focus of identity that matters. Are you His sheep listening for His voice or a goat awaiting His judgement?

[@honaybear5286]

Yes I like your comment Thank you Jesus!☝️🙏🏼

[@dennisdrew7470]

Amen brother in Christ

[@paveli1181]

Everything has a place in the right order. We should be critical of government to stay away from religion, ideology and bullying other nations. We should have one political party and can decide competent or incompetent.

[@lynnmcintosh]

Thank you Shepherd’s. We need you.

[@bobbabai]

All of those other things can be easily demonstrated to exist. The god doesn't deserve any recognition or respect if he doesn't show up, ever! And if getting him to show up requires full-force faith to the point where you're certain he's showing up without anyone else being able to see him when he does, then his showing up is useless.

[@ldebrobander]

I am a Christian. Not everyone who names the name of Christ is a Christan. And not every church, organization, movement and individual who calls themselves Christian is. This is not a movement of Christ. The greatest hallmark of a Christian is love, as it is defined in 1 Corinthians 13. Another is humility. Christian Nationalism is a political movement veiled in the cloak of Christianity that wreaks of pride and hypocracy. It directly opposes the teachings of Jesus Christ Himself. Christian Nationalists appear to be more interested in fueling their own agenda rather than Christ's agenda -- the Great Commission. When Jesus returns, He will then set up His Kingdom on earth. A holy nation. Christ will accomplish this Himself.

[@ccbewell3304]

Please hear what Voddie has to say. He says, Don’t buy into that argument. It’s a power play and part of Critical Race Theory, which is Marxism. White Christian Nationalism is a triple word play he said to advocate for critical race theory.

[@laughingcrowe22]

Spot on. This movement reeks of pride and is self-serving.

[@andrebredell3293]

Exactly, just a "Form of Godliness, denying the power thereof."

[@eze317]

Amen!

[@JesusIsLord77788]

Nonsense view. Back it up scripturally and let's see the outcome of your faith and belief system. Progressive theology likely. What is in pride about Loving God, then country and it's people? We seek to fulfill the Kingdom of God on earth. That's basic scriptural teaching

[@jfkbrigade1650]

I just found out about this man. & it happened for a reason in this moment of my life.

[@stuffipost137]

He's a treasure to the church of Christ.

[@barbarasmith5353]

In Timothy when we are told to pray for all in authority, HE tells us what to pray, "that we all may live Godly and honest lives"

[@heartofalegend]

No argument. I assume you felt the need to punctuate this for a reason. What is it?

[@nammoses7800]

I've learned so much from Voddie. God bless him..

[@Davidferrell1964]

Amen!

[@lukecarrion1694]

You only learned lies

[@nammoses7800]

@@lukecarrion1694 well I guess you came here to learn them as well?

[@bipslone8880]

​@@Davidferrell1964 Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.

[@skipmars7979]

This is my favorite pastor today. He understands and teaches correct Christian doctrine IMHO. God Bless Him.

[@emf49]

I really appreciate Voddie Baucham. He teaches a lot of truth ‘except’ for his reform views of salvation, God and the nature of original sin. That doctrine contradicts scripture.

[@mytuber81]

Voddie is a national treasure.

[@mrcmusic1]

Wow beautiful statement

[@aubreyleonae4108]

The biggest ..... certainly an idiot

[@lukecarrion1694]

lol no he isn’t

[@dited358]

@@lukecarrion1694 lol yes he is

[@lukecarrion1694]

@@dited358 no he isn’t. He’s a bad person. He’s a professional liar

[@joshhall1468]

Current active duty marine, fascinating perspective on American military and God. God bless, love your ministry sir

[@denisekremer3611]

Thank you for your service, sir.

[@MommaBear_316]

Sending thoughts and prayers Brother in Christ thank you and God Bless

[@jackmote2781]

Thank you for your service. I was Navy 1990-96, my son served in the USMC until 2017. I cannot imagine being in the service today. God bless you, and may He watch your 6!

[@lukecarrion1694]

You’re a disgrace to the service

[@merg-vh5sx]

Serious question: do you support Palestine? It's 2024 now and military people seem to be going a little funny.

[@thembamaselane5885]

Listening to David Barton's talks on the history of America gives one perspective that is balanced when navigating these issues and Dr Baucham hear does that in a condensed yet vivid way.

[@danielmark6779]

David Barton is a faux historian even among many Christian scholars who are real historians. He grossly distorts history with claims that couldn't pass the least rigorous scrutiny of scholarship.

[@TimWolfe3760]

I too have been born and raised in America. My grandfather served in world war II. His son my uncle served in Vietnam, so there is a patriotic theme running through our family. I will make this clear I am not an America basher. In 1995 I started to read the bible. At that time I had entered in Fellowship with the Father and His Son. God's spirit was sent from the Father to me. I was Born Again that moment. The bible has washed me clean and renewed my mind, I became a new creation. All things are passed, behold all things became new. At that moment I knew I was on enemy territory, and Satan being the god of this world, is like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. Jesus tells me that to watch out for this evil one, and also that I will be hated by ALL Nations for His namesake. This is what has been handed down to me traditionally, not only me but millions here as well. Our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, we are God's building, temple. And to place my hand over my soul and pledge or swear an oath to a peace of material with some red and white stripes and has some stars on it. I had to repent to the Lord and say, My allegiance is to you Jesus, I trust in you that you have gone to prepare a place for me and one day will receive me unto yourself that where you are I will be also. Until he returns for me, he has assigned a task for me to do down here. If I complete this task, I will here those glorious words... "Well done my good and faithful servant, enter into the joy of thy salvation. I am a sojourner just passing through, this world is not my home. I am a Christian residing in a place called America, I am a monarchist, I serve the King of kings, Jesus. I'm not an Republican nor a Democrat. My foundation is the Lord Jesus Christ and His word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path. I do not stand on the sinking sand of the Constitution, nor do I place my trust in the Bill of Rights nor the Amendments. Those documents are not written in the Lambs book of life. I will trust in Him alone. I hope and pray that any who read this will truly come to God and reason with Him by His word. God bless you all. I love each and everyone of you !!!

[@juliefincham4636]

Bravo Malachi Well said!!! 😊

[@TimWolfe3760]

Thanks Julie, you know these words I spoke are not my own, no one can speak these words unless God's spirit dwells within him/her. This country is not prepared for what is coming up on her, especially the church goers. God bless and as always... Malachi 3:16-18

[@TheJpep2424]

I am a born again christian and follower of Christ. I vote against parties that celebrate the murder of babies and sexual immorality, gay marriage, transgenderism etc. Which means I vote republican. To say you are neither means you're silent of moral issue and destroy people. I will vote for pro-life candidates and against pro-abortion candidates as a result of my faith.

[@wingedinfinity777]

@wolfeyism .... Do you pay your taxes ?

[@nitedriver5629]

This is absolutely beautiful!

[@mothornton9127]

Nationalism is an ideology that emphasizes loyalty, devotion, or allegiance to a nation or nation-state and holds that such obligations outweigh other individual or group interests.

[@aspirated777]

“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America….” Is it wrong for a Christian to pledge allegiance to the country of their citizenship?

[@mothornton9127]

@@aspirated777 no I don’t think so

[@terry4137]

@@mothornton9127no one asked you

[@mothornton9127]

@@terry4137 no one asked for a turd but you showed up anyway

[@belindaharney8997]

@@terry4137not true. The comment was a response to the question posted.

[@Donaldholsclaw]

Amen, finally a preacher who gets it and who is preaching 100% TRUTH...

[@philkim2328]

As usual, Pastor Voddie is an excellent speaker. I really enjoyed this message.

[@bipslone8880]

I bet you can't define "Woke" .......and demonstrate an example and how it's wrong.

[@sethmatherne7012]

Love the dedication to praying for those in authority over us. May God make us both a hearing and a doing people of faith.

[@bipslone8880]

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.

[@USMC-cv5sd]

​@@bipslone8880 Amen

[@xavind]

God bless Voddie. He preaches and teaches the Truth of God.

[@lukecarrion1694]

He’s literally a terrible person with objectively horrible beliefs. He’s extremely bigoted

[@manthetower5894]

Truth and God is an oxymoron

[@streetsmartswing]

Thank you for shedding light on this subject with boldness.

[@bipslone8880]

I bet you can't define "Woke" .......and demonstrate an example and how it's wrong.

[@aisforamerica2185]

Voddie Baucham: the Antidote to the purgatory of Political Podcasts. His podcast has a hope at the end. His message has a point!

[@lindajones4438]

Jesus preached the kingdom of God and that we are to spread it. Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. says the Bible. We are responsible to vote what would please the Lord and ignorance is not an excuse. How free we are to witness on the streets prove we are a free nation. When the government says your keep the witness inside the church, we are in trouble. We will serve our God or the god of the world will rule our nation.

[@kimmurphy72]

This needs to be listened to by many Christians!

[@bipslone8880]

America doesn't need a Christian version of Iran. Separation of church and states.

[@bipslone8880]

Jesus was woke and a social justice warrior

[@LordFarkwad-qp1yb]

Modern Christianity is the Apostasy, and Trump is the Antichrist. Christian Nationalism is the Beast System. Repent.

[@applemac100100]

As a citizen of 🇬🇧 who lives on the island of Ireland this is a powerful message. It is God who sets up nations and not men. When a nation has a Christian ethos it is God who has ordained it and not men. It I’ll betides any nation has a Christian ethos for its citizens to attempt to secularise it. The history of the nation of Israel is testament to what happened to them when secularisation and plurality of religion occurred. God punished them with seventy years of captivity. Western nations should learn this lesson well.

[@kingsfan2099]

You're in a cult.

[@VicGeorge2K6]

That's because Israel was SUPPOSED TO BE God's special nation BY DESIGN.

[@manthetower5894]

It was definitely men who set up nations. No evidence of divine intervention or a guiding hand.

[@hughmarcus1]

@@VicGeorge2K6Yes but not modern secular Israel.

[@CSWRB]

Voddie won’t give one inch when it come to letting secularists define Christianity. Praise God for how He’s working in Voddie’s life!

[@wearbear]

It's christofascist nationalism for gullible idiots

[@HMFOG]

Definitely !!!☦️

[@summertime87]

I always thought that God's kingdom is in Heaven, not in a country

[@JesusIsLord77788]

It's both. The Lord’s prayer shows it

[@ritakelley7166]

I love it! Thank you for bringing the word of God.

[@Robert-dn4yp]

The Kingdom of God is in the hearts of born again Christans

[@TimothyBrown-f9k]

We are to be CHRIST-LIKE first. Then whatever we choose to be distracted by. But JESUS 1st.

[@USMC-cv5sd]

Like porn ? Lol

[@harlanbarnhart4656]

As an Anabaptist, I have a lot in common with bro. Bacham but also truckload of difference. We Anabaptists have been objecting too, speaking back too and fleeing from Christian Nationalism since 1525 so while he can't see it, I can. And I don't think that makes me a Marxist or a Liberal or "woke".

[@ccbewell3304]

I think he’s speaking of a different nationalism. Give me the nations as an inheritance! I want America to be a sheep nation. I want America to be saved. I want it to be one of God’s inheritances!

[@edwardgerdemann2400]

The Christian Nationalist Movement insinuates the same thing the Moral Majority and Reconstruction Movement did - that the Gospel of Christ is not totally sufficient. We must also work through the political/legal system to make American "Christian." That is the great flaw of that theology. The Gospel is totally sufficient. We don't need the political/legal system to promote God's Kingdom.

[@andrebredell3293]

Exactly! This fact seems to be elusive to Voddie

[@jan-matthisweng4437]

If your company or a customer doesn't pay you, do you resort to preaching the Gospel or to the judicial system, thus, to the law, thus, to legislation, thus, to politics, thus, to the forceful implementation of rules about right and wrong and the suppression of dissenters? And if it's the latter, why not take the opportunity to allow those rules to be enforced which you deem just or good or useful from a Christian perspective? If politics is something Christian should have nothing to do with, of course, CN is not the way. But that's a minority position. For the majority of Christians who believe doing politics is okay, CN is something they can and should debate about!

[@themotivator2587]

I'm absolutely on board with what is taught in this lesson! God bless you, and thank you for your wisdom and prudence!

[@johngribbin7574]

Ohh Rah brother Voddie. May the Lord keep you and bless you.

[@rickysikes1631]

We are commanded to work for the good of wherever God sends us. That is what scripture states. If we are born in a nation, or move to a nation we are to work for the good of that place. Christians are citizens of an eternal kingdom under the sovereign rule of the King of Kings wherever we live on earth. We are to be salt and light , meaning to help prevent the growth of evil and to live in the light as Christ is the light.

[@altonbrek]

I have been listening to Voddie for more than 10 years and I have learned things from him that I did not think was possible. Blessings to the man. 🙏

[@theliberatedplanet]

The social construction of Reality - a Treatise in the sociology of knowledge by Berger and Luckmann; thank you for bringing this wisdom and teaching to the people, Dr. Baucham.

[@robinsonelec]

Isn’t it interesting that our country started so religious in the northeast and now it’s more so secular.

[@honaybear5286]

Yes the strategy of satan! Always has to attack and deceive what God/Jesus does. God told Adam and Eve not to eat off of the tree and what did the enemy tell them so if you eat of the tree you would not die, Lies! He always has to infiltrate, and pervert and usurp what God has done. Just like Constantine and the Romans how they infiltrated true Biblical Christianity with paganism! You know the enemy always has to counterfeit what God does!

[@TesterBoy]

Unfortunately it shows how much the country has backslidden!

[@flavioferr]

In Brazil it is happening the same problem. I think that's a global issue. Western world is collapsing with progressism

[@robinsonelec]

@@flavioferr yes, I always say progressive like cancer.

[@flavioferr]

@Larry Robinson maybe De Santis or Trump can stop this madness in 2024. Let's pray for the lord bring back conservatism to west world. Before 60s we had normal people today we have crazy people.

[@brendacarabba2752]

My thoughts are people need to look to the Most High and pray for politicians to lead our country whatever party is in office however we do need to discern who we are voting for

[@MBP210]

May God continue to bless and protect you brother!

[@bipslone8880]

Jesus was woke and a social justice warrior

[@josehirizarry6832]

Preach Dr. Baucham, Preach !! May the Lord continue blessings you with His Words.

[@leonardmcdonald4549]

I love the way he exposes the postmodern philosophical worldview of those who are seeking to distort and/or suppress the truth of America's founding.

[@manthetower5894]

It is under the first amendment. The separation of Church and state. The founding fathers, learned men who were in opposition to tyranny of any kind including those forced upon a population by religious doctrine. The only thing this man of the cloth is spreading is misinformation and furthering the indoctrination of a gullible audience.

[@michaelangelo9119]

What do you think of psalm 72:17 where nations will bless and be blessed by Jesus the Messiah

[@loganholdaway769]

Voddie is very thoughtful here. I call myself a Christian Nationalist because I think we can take ground by embracing the term when rightly defined. We've done this with the term Christian which was originally a derogatory term. Christian Nationalism rightly defined has nothing to do with America specifically. It's about a Christian people seeking God for their nation. From what I can tell, there is a small group of extremists that misrepresent the majority. God will judge them and His truth will prevail.

[@georgeluke6382]

This needs more likes. It's as though we selectively decide which terms the culture is incapable of hearing redefinitions.

[@michaelmannucci8585]

I actually think the small to large groups are the opposite.

[@KARMICHAEL11]

Amen brother; I think of when “Christian” was a pejorative in the first couple centuries AD, and then Gods people said, “well, yeah!” We need to be a people that unitedly believe in Christ’s present authority over all of life again, and should own ill-intended terms again with specific definitional accuracy like brother Voddie has been doing these past few years.

[@michaelmannucci8585]

Could you point me to the timestamp where he gives a definition for CN? I watched the whole thing and I am pretty sure he never did. If he believes Christian Nationalist simply means you want a Christian nation, he is incorrect. But if I missed where he gave a definition, I am open to be pointed to it.

[@billhobson6637]

@@michaelmannucci8585 that was dealt with in the first address. There are many definitions, most by opponents that are using it as a pejorative.

[@mattalley4330]

I used to have a bumper sticker on my vehicle that read, “Jesus loves you, but I’m his favorite.” It was in jest, purely tongue in cheek humor, but my main criticism of Christian Nationalism is that they seem to be very serious about this sentiment

[@MrBowser2012]

Voddie is such a blessing. I highly recommend his book Fault Lines!

[@willparker9772]

15:34 this description is so perfect. It illustrates exactly why and how this kinda of thing is inescapable. The Bible does exactly as described here. Apparatus of hegemony. This is very clearly true. In the same way atheists also use common ideas through the culture to create an apparatus of hegemony. I think this is just how humans work.

[@roxannelain7138]

Nationalism stands apart from globalism and tribalism. And I see nations supported through the Bible. Then the only choice under each of those is Christian or pagan. So, fleshing it out. I am a Christian who belongs to a nation that would like to glorify the true God along with my nations and other godly nations. Let the nations be glad!

[@heartofalegend]

Exactly. This is the most intentionally misrepresented concept, right now, and the church, as Voddie put it, has "fallen for" the straw man. I'm embarrassed at how naive and ignorant the church is, sometimes.

[@manthetower5894]

A most dangerous and poisonous idea.

[@aminparker01]

以前、別のユーザーが英語で非常に深く述べていたように、「ナショナリズムとは、国や国民国家に対する忠誠心、献身、または忠誠を強調し、そのような義務を他の個人やグループの利益よりも重要だと考えるイデオロギーである」。私は実際にこの意見に同意します。

[@rdaleyj1]

Yeah true and the question is can we pledge allegiance to God and country at the same time??? Most of the time the govt opposes the word of God.

[@shaemousegenx]

Voddie is a TRUTH PILL for this country.

[@applemac100100]

And the western world.

[@roboparks]

He said there was no Truth at the beginning of the video.

[@JrscottyIRL]

Go Dr. Baucham Go !

[@CBess]

Much appreciated lecture! Soli Deo Gloria

[@virtualpilgrim8645]

19:34 Voddie reads from the Oxford English Dictionary defining a nation as, "A large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory." But the 1828 Webster's dictionary also defines Americans as, "Descendants of Europeans born in America." How come Webster didn't say "anyone from anywhere that shares our values is an American"? How come it didn't say blacks and Asians and Hispanics are Americans? Because Americans clearly had an ethnic and racial identity which was white.

[@kb27787]

While the Gospel Church is indeed to transcend any national or ethnical border lines, the fact however still remains that God still looks upon nations as nations, and that He still judges nations as entities with national judgments. Hence, it is in the interest of every local church to preach the Gospel to its leaders and urge them, in as much as is lawful, to submit and conform their laws to the laws of Christ. Aside from Psalm 2, there is also this: And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, on them there will be no rain. If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the LORD strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. (Zech 14:17-20) Rain here denotes Gospel blessing (for literal rain, it is clear elsewhere that God is pleased to send it both on the just and unjust and so cannot be what is referred to here) and the Feast of Tabernacles of course refers to Christ, who is the Word that tabernacled with us. The plague here that is threatened (see Zech 14:12) is the rotting of the flesh, eyes and tongue, and who else could fail to see this judgment even now in action on the societies (including those that in the past had received rain, so to speak, but now have fallen far) whose language is filthy, whose eyes desire to look upon lewd and violent things and who defile their bodies with the most grotesque sexual perversions possible?

[@toddstevens9667]

I don’t think so. I notice that you don’t have any NT scriptures. OT is about the nation of Israel. NT is about Christian Internationalism, not Christian Nationalism. Read the Great Commission. The Gospel isn’t about politics.

[@charliehuman-zp6ie]

Your lens is wrong. In the Old Testament, yes your statement would be true. Christ makes it clear that in the church age, each man is judged individually. Revelation teaches that someday Christ will return, and judge them again as nations. Keep reading your bible

[@kb27787]

@@charliehuman-zp6ie I must say, did you believe the last chapters of Zechariah (which is clearly talking about an age that is neither day nor night and living waters flowing from Jerusalem... quite clearly the church age) is somehow talking about something that is irrelevant to us today? Dispensationalism is indeed quite a plague on the Church.

[@ericmccarty2369]

I believe Jesus is going to return very soon!

[@Pastor-Brettbyfaith]

Christian Nationalism is the belief that Biblical Christianity should be ruling the (worldly) government. The role of the Christian is to preach, teach, and disciple souls that hear and receive the gospel of Christ. We are not called to collectively rule this world in which we live, but to point people to Jesus and trust in the guidance of his Holy Word. This world must run its course. There is a prophetic time table that will be followed. We do not rule until the millenial kingdom of Christ begins. It stands to reason then that to believe in Christian Nationalism, one must believe in the false doctrines of theonomy and post millenialism. I would call Voddie to remember his message on Gospel Clarity. Stop feeding the church fruit flavored slushies and give us the real fruit/food that satisfies. Just preach the Gospel brother. 2 Tim 4:2

[@WTG194]

True! But will Voddie ever do that though? I'm beginning to wonder if he somewhere deep within the epicenter of this epidemic in the church.

[@Pastor-Brettbyfaith]

@WTG194 Much prayer my brother.

[@WTG194]

@@Pastor-Brettbyfaith true! for repentance and a change of heart

[@ragnarjenkins4120]

Amen, beautifully said brother

[@pieterduplessis6906]

A sane and Biblical comment. How refreshing

[@Sonya19781]

“Not in the Lord’s house…”. Yes!

[@fredderf3152]

I believe in the separation of church and state.

[@angelaevans4362]

You are aware that is not I. The constitution, right? It was in a letter Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptist Assn. It meant that the govt should not control the church.

[@gershamwehner4344]

And you realize that separation between church and state is a key Baptist distinctive from the 17th century before the USA existed, right?

[@jan-matthisweng4437]

I do, too! But I don't believe in the separation of religion and politics

[@MatthewBrooks-z3m]

Throw away the CONSTITUTION. Those LAWS comes from THE BIBLE. Secularism has man made laws.

[@Demonoicgamer666]

@@angelaevans4362 it is in the constitution it’s just worded differently. The wording being “congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibit free exercise thereof…” in other words “separation of church and state”

[@HomesteadAppalachia]

Voddie - four deployments in Special Operations w/ US ARMY RANGER and a decade in the modern Army - The US Flag is a Golden Calf, God bless you, sir.

[@sanders194539]

Yes, Yes indeed, and the older generations worshipped that calf in great numbers. Propaganda is a powerful tool, and the spirit of the age always creeps into the chirch. We have to be vigilant against anu attempts to distract the Church from the Cross.

[@denisekremer3611]

Thank you for your service, sir.

[@virtualpilgrim8645]

Just say no to foreign wars

[@larryb7047]

Ol' Glory a "golden calf"? Where in this sermon do you equate such a comparison? Every Christian who holds a Biblical Worldview understands that this world is not our home. However, to not understand the BLESSING of being born in this great Republic is tantamount to ungratefulness. Tell me where you're right and where I'm wrong. I too served - 23 years. My US Flag is currently flying upside down & underneath my Christian flag. But I do NOT consider Ol' Glory an idol.

[@DogOneIsOpen]

I’m a combat veteran myself. I had a strong attachment to what the flag represented many decades ago, but no longer. It’s a difficult mind shift, but I must make Christ and His church the center of my allegiance and identity.

[@molitorsk]

Voddie - Thank God for your teachings, a long with John MacArthur's, Steven Lawson's and Jeff Durbin's - the truth of the Gospel taught with expositional study and many hours of pray. Praise God for these dedicated Shepard's 😊

[@aubreyleonae4108]

golffoxtrotyankee 1979

[@ccbewell3304]

Such sound reason! Thanks for this very balanced message about a hot topic right now!

[@Logos-Nomos]

Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords.

[@Psalm144.1]

“Never forget that the principles of the Protestant Reformation made this country what she is, and let nothing ever tempt you to forsake them.” JC Ryle - 1900 Last publish written words

[@Project1643.]

The Protestant Reformation gave Great Britain the Solemn League and Covenant in 1643. Ryle both rejected and dispised this covenant and therefore forsook Reformation principles.

[@Psalm144.1]

@@Project1643. I don’t know what you’re talking about. He stood up for the 39 Articles and the prayer book. That is the Protestant Reformation in England.

[@Project1643.]

@Psalm144.1 Exactly, he rejected the Solemn League and Covenant, which became the national constitution in 1643, and the Westminster Standards, which replaced the 39 Articles in 1648. One needs to understand history to know who is in the true church and those who are schismatic.

[@Psalm144.1]

@@Project1643. That’s post Reformation about 125 years after. 1648 was illegally instituted. It was null and void after the Restoration. You are surprised that ab Anglican Bishop defends the formularies of the Protestant Reformation. Most of the great hymns like Amazing Grace or Rock of Ages are written by Church of England men. They all defended the Anglican formularies of the Protestant Reformation.

[@sandraloutsenhizer1558]

Oh I’m disappointed with Voddie this time. Yes, England had a national religion which is why they persecuted the Puritans and they fled here. Then the Puritans and other colonies also established state religions and persecuted other faiths. This is why Jefferson, Washington and others fought for religious freedom and a secular government with no religious test. Washington was especially avocating for the rights to of Muslims. Many documents have been preserved. You can read what they wrote on the subject

[@MatthewBrooks-z3m]

If we are under SECULAR government, That means our LAWS are from MAN. Read the Constitution. Those LAWS are from THE BIBLE FROM GOD.

[@rdaleyj1]

Don't forget that America was founded upon freemason Christianity and not true biblical Christianity, and this is why the laws also protect satanism as religious worship.

[@ReformingApologetics]

We were commanded to make disciples, not elect them. Our preoccupation with the latter and neglect of the former is in large part what has led to the wheels falling off. When ancient Rome became "Christian" similar things happened.

[@aaronhammons6065]

I don't think I agree with this take. Christ is King of all. We should apply the Word to every area of life. Ignoring the ramifications of Christ as King of the physical realm is a primary cause of the rampant sin throughout our culture.

[@ReformingApologetics]

@@aaronhammons6065 that approach has been tried in the late medieval papacy. Focusing on the Gospel isn't ignoring Christ as King, over all, it's honoring that. Show me where any of the Apostles lobbied for new rulers.

[@aaronhammons6065]

@@ReformingApologetics They refused to bow to Caesar as king, which was an act of treason against the current political authority and was enough to get them killed. The inheritance you enjoy today is the fruit of men who acknowledged Christ as King of heaven and earth, which of course Christ claimed to be His own. Your approach is being applied currently to destroy our inheritance. It is known as secularism, and it has gotten us drag queen story hour and transgenderism.

[@ReformingApologetics]

@@aaronhammons6065 Just where in Scripture do you see the apostles refusing to honor Caesar in civil matters?

[@aaronhammons6065]

@@ReformingApologetics Paul was literally executed for his disobedience, for proclaiming Christ as LORD. Caesar didn't care if someone "accepted Jesus into his heart." Caesar cared about his absolute authority, which Paul and the Christian faith have explicitly denied by proclaiming Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. All of the apostles suffered the same fate save John.

[@mothornton9127]

It’s a shame that he has no problem using word “woke.” When it’s a word us as a term to meaning “that we don’t care about what you black people are going through. Period!

[@wegder]

I have a healthy fear of Christians, I remembered decades ago they used to talk about love you don't hear that much anymore

[@HMFOG]

Listen to the gospel ☦️☺️

[@ccbewell3304]

I’m sorry you feel that way! Love ya!

[@MatthewBrooks-z3m]

If you live in THE STATES, under the CONSTITUTION, the GOD of THE BIBLE is where those LAWS came from. Do you fear those LAWS?

[@wbdill]

Voddie says that Christianity doesn't force anyone to worship which is true bit minutes earlier he rattled off several colonies that required a (Christian) religious test to hold public office. Those tests are Christian nationalism (though a slight misnomer because we were only colonies and not a nation).

[@Psalm144.1]

Those rules still continued for a long time. Many states had state religions too.

[@virtualpilgrim8645]

“Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and PREFER CHRISTIANS for their rulers. National prosperity can neither be obtained nor preserved without the favor of Providence.” ~ John Jay 1816

[@johnwoodruff1878]

I am a Christian and I am for my nation. I want this country as a whole repent and to turn to the Lord Christ Jesus savoir only.

[@gfujigo]

What does that even mean? If folks want to repent then they can do that now. There is nothing stopping people now from turning to Christ.

[@johnwoodruff1878]

@@gfujigo because there are so many definitions. And I don't believe a lot of them are thought out very well. Like the one that I saw that said Jesus and Trump and they called it Christian nationalism. That is complete nonsense. Number one Trump is not a Christian. Trump along with all our leaders need to be saved. What I understand what personal nationalism is supposed to be, as far as I'm concerned. Turning the nation back toward Christ. Telling all men that they must be, they must repent of their sins and trust wholeheartedly in a person in the work of Christ. The whole nation must turn to Christ. Our nation is a pagan nation, and what we're facing is chaos. It is going to be either chaos or Christ. The word national Christian has been very widely abused and it is meant to be abused now in a way that they mean it, especially white national Christians. Which is truly a communist idea just as much as critical race theory. This nation must be pointed back to Christ. The church has not obeyed the word of God. We too were suffer God's judgment because of that. Judgment begins at the house of God.

[@tobiasgriffin]

I'm not being rude, but the USA Australia new Zealand you are not a ethnicity you all came from everywhere and mix so it funny to me to here american say nationalism and race

[@Psalm144.1]

@@gfujigo It means that he is a Christian and loves his country. Voddie says as much in his book Fault lines.

[@Kingjamesbible161]

@@gfujigo Facts

[@MichaelAndrews-uy1gl]

Isn't it defined in our Pledge of Allegiance? "...a nation under God?

[@fredderf3152]

One nation under God….. Muslim believes in God as well.

[@IAmNotAshamedOfTheGospel]

Christianity is rooted in blood! Period! It’s rooted in the resurrection period! The cross!!!!

[@JudgeproperlySon-pw8kb]

Do you mean rooted in the spilling of blood ( usually innocent blood), if so you are correct!

[@franciscouderq1100]

Keep religions away from politics and power. Keep religious faith personal and never to be imposed upon others.

[@peterrizek8774]

I'm sorry, that's not correct, If you keep God away from politics that means satan controls the politics and the power, that's so negative. if you are anti-abortion the question is, Why are you anti-abortion, because that's not moral, simply that's not separate religion from Politics

[@noah.s95]

Atheism and secularism are religions.

[@jan-matthisweng4437]

Impossible, because religion informs ethics and ethics (hopefully) inform politics. Making laws is oftentimes about gathering empirical data, discussing them in a sober and rational manner, trying to implement sound sustainable solutions. But there are also those laws and politics which have to do with right and wrong and when people take out their religious convictions which tell them what IS right and wrong in a goven situation, how are they supposed to decide? Should religious people always and aas a matter of principle abstain from voting and legislating if and when moral issues are on the table?

[@debrademuth]

The Church is the conscience of the nation.

[@Project1643.]

You must repent and believe upon the Lord Jesus for his kingdom is at hand.

[@OxbowisaMstie]

I wouldn't normally think understanding the difference between theocracy and democracy would be so difficult a dichotomy to understand. The schisms of the American Christian settlers were the exact reason we established a separation of church and state in the very first place. It is wildly considered a net negative to have a government weigh in on the tenets of a church's faith. *If this is at all confusing to you, consider for a moment a Catholic government setting down the rules for protestants by means of the State.*

[@Psalm144.1]

Only Rhode Island and Maryland didn’t establish a state religion. And even Rhode Island acknowledged Christianity in general as true religion. The last state religion was di-established in the early 1830s.

[@OxbowisaMstie]

@@Psalm144.1 I don't discount that. The history is clear, our forefathers were offshoots of Protestantism.They were quite disparate as to what kinds though. It's because of those initial disagreements were codified as a separation of church and state. Thus allowing a sort of harmony between different Christianities.

[@Psalm144.1]

@@OxbowisaMstie They were Anglicans, Presbyterians, Methodists, Baptists, Congregationtionalsits, Catholics (Maryland) and nothing is written into the Constitution or Declaration of Independence about separation of Church and State. That’s from a letter to a Baptist Preacher by Jefferson assuring him there will never be National State Church.

[@Psalm144.1]

@@OxbowisaMstie Did you listen to the speech by Tom Ascol from the same conference. He gives definitions of Christian Nationalism and goes more into those details, plus the history if the US long after the founding. Voddie’s speech is more about how marxists use the term with a definition to bludgeon people who don’t want to accept leftist immoral values. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpm3lKePp82cnJI

[@OxbowisaMstie]

@@Psalm144.1 The separation of church and state is in the establishment clause of the Constitution. I assure you It is in effect and still legally binding. And that's a good thing, really. You should be suspious of any religious group pushing for it's removal.

[@lloydmckay3241]

“As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion" ~ Treaty of Tripoli; initiated under President George Washington, 1796, signed into law by President John Adams, 1797, ratified unanimously by the Senate, 1797, published in full in all 13 states, with no record of complaint or dissent.

[@TheNephilim101]

Nonetheless, Judeo-Christian morals, ethics and/or guidelines were inserted and implemented in one way or the other by the Founding Fathers and those Judeo-Christian morals, ethics and/or guidelines have built this great nation that everyone in the world wants to come to or flee to and has allowed you the freedom and liberties to say, speak or write whatever you want. Try that in a Islamic country or a communist / socialist country. 🤨

[@eze317]

American's need to see our country for what it is - just another empire, the biggest, most powerful and last empire. One might say the revived Roman empire.

[@therainbowtherainbow4820]

Let's listen and learn here. Teach Mr. Voddie Baucham

[@willparker9772]

Who said we’re making it up in America? Nobody is claiming this. Christian nationalism has a LONG history going back to the beginnings of nationalism.

[@adenjones1802]

I love how this guy literally reads the verses saying that the Lord holds the nations in derision and will dash them to peices and he goes "see this is why we should be christian nationalists

[@rrtcad]

I just heard public radio using this pejorative.

[@bigpappahemi4263]

I'm a white Christian who believes we need to get back to following the constitution. I'm not sure what that makes me and I'm not sure I care what others want to label me. I have no desire to oppress anyone and I want all people to be saved by Jesus.

[@MatthewBrooks-z3m]

Amen:)

[@Luiiciano]

We need a theocratic Christian nation

[@JW-tg1nn]

No.

[@JohnnyAce-u9e]

That would be a terrible idea most people aren't Christians and most Christians have different beliefs than other Christians. And all the people who don't agree with every single Christian moral would be punished which is unjust and illegal and fascist. That means gay people could no longer get married or be together whatsoever. And that is authoritarianism

[@JohnnyAce-u9e]

Fascism comes with a Bible in one hand and a cross in the other

[@Luiiciano]

@@JohnnyAce-u9e 😂

[@JohnnyAce-u9e]

@@Luiiciano I don't know what you're laughing about but America becoming a christian Nation would lead ironically to the Antichrist. Also if you're suggesting that America should be a theocracy then you're committing high treason against the United States of America. A theocracy violates the constitution

[@dblev2019]

Great message! It’s interesting how he speaks about a secular government being a new concept. Six months ago the Chilean people soundly rejected a new constitution which Nature magazine referred to as the first constitution based on Science. As I listened to Brett Weinstein’s Dark Horse podcast he and his wife read through parts of it. Brett Weinstein is an atheist, and I remember how appalled he was, not just by the lack of science, but by the lack of a moral framework. Brett’s moral foundation came from somewhere and it doesn’t appear to be science.

[@christophertaylor9100]

"I think I'm gonna get fired again" I know that feeling.

[@5150cappie]

I think any entity that doesn’t have enough room for every human isn’t a real entity but a human power projection. Live and let live.

[@robbberry7457]

Remember him teaching back in Houston area . . . . great man of faith

[@Symone77]

Yes. Spiritually speaking for all people covered by the blood of Jesus and are in covenant with the Lord. A nation was born in a day on the Day of Pentecost. Has nothing to do with the so called word race or geographical boundaries.

[@glenntubbs7089]

A wise man in Christ.

[@wanderingthewilderness]

I love this message and greatly appreciated your historical and correct word use by definition. Words matter. With that said, I did disagree with a couple of phrases and ideas at the beginning. 1 Cor 6 teachs us that we are the temple of the Lord, not a building that we gather to on Sundays and so the idea of "out their do this but not here" I would disagree with. We are also commanded in Roman's 13 to give honor where it is due. So if a body if believers want to take a moment to show honor to those in their gathering who have fought for the American idea and to protect or free other nations. I think script supports doing this and the people.a definitely deserving of honor. My self, I'm an Iraq War Vet and I know what I have done for our Nation and for the people of Iraq. I DO NOT EXPECT HONOR thou I have earned it. More men need to work to try and say the same. IMHO. Thank you brother. I greatly appreciate your gifting and communication of truth.

[@AkonFenty1992]

I am a Christian Nationalist because I want this country to be a Christian Nation which it is.

[@brian0547]

You want a religious country. You should let Jesus guide you to convert non-Christians. Laws won’t do it

[@jan-matthisweng4437]

@@brian0547 Christian or libertarian or progressive laws are not there to make anyone a Christian or a libertarian or a progressive, but to implement Christian or libertarian or progressive ethics via the political process as common rules of conduct.

[@manthetower5894]

​@@brian0547what a vile and evil thought

[@MatthewBrooks-z3m]

@@brian0547 Degeneracy would be worse if we didn't have Christian LAWS here in the US. Why do you think secularists want to change LAWS?

[@Triay314]

My question is , does the majority of Christians or “Christian nationalist” feel the same way Voddie does? I don’t think so

[@interestedmeow]

Until someone can fully engage with the BIBLICAL definition, understanding and implications of the concept of ‘nation’, one should consider any attempt at a Christian Nationalism to be problematic.

[@Zaloomination]

what is the biblical definition? And do you have problems with how nation is described by Voddie here?

[@interestedmeow]

@@Zaloomination yep. He’s appealing to the Oxford dictionary along with just about everyone else talking on the subject these days. The definition and purpose of nations in Scripture is at odds with what these brothers are positing as a bulwark against persecution and decay. The concept of nations, their inception, their place in the minds of the audiences of the prophets and psalmists is so foreign to our secular formulation of the modern nation-state that I’m genuinely surprised some of the wilder types haven’t picked up on the fact that the foundation these men are building on is made of the same rotting material they are trying to replace. I’d suggest you spend some time in Deut 32/Gen 6, 10-11/Psa 82/Acts 2 and then read Unseen Realm. I’ll put it as simply as I can here: the nations are fully ethnic and linguistic constructs in the minds of the authors. Yahweh divided humanity up into them as discipline for Babel, chose Israel for himself and gave the spiritual governance of these nations over to spiritual beings. These beings rebelled and turned these nations to their own worship rather than that of Yahweh. His choosing of one family, through Abraham, was the small beginning of a vast family made of chosen individuals from all the other nations to be his own. History ends with this family completed and resurrected, but only after a bitter war in both heaven and earth where all of humanity and the spiritual enemies throw off the shackles of nation-hood, uniting under one leader once again to crush Yahweh’s regenerate family beneath their boot heel. Yet Yahweh thunders from heaven and casts them all away, consummating a marriage with His Bride and creating a new heavens and new earth to rule over with her for eternity. The intention and purpose from the beginning. There is no room here for a modern nation state that coerces Torah observance from the unbeliever. There is no path toward a persecution-less safe space from which Christians take dominion over the 7 mountains of culture. It will either rot from the inside (as America has done; just like every other Christendom before her) or will be infected by a viral tyranny which quickly makes it twice the oppressor of the Bride as China or the USSR ever was. Focus on the mission of expanding the family by finding the chosen in every ethnic group and stop chasing over-realization of a glorious future hope in the next century. You just might accidentally build the Beast that John clearly saw uniting humanity against the one you call King.

[@Zaloomination]

@@interestedmeow I'm not sure I agree with you, because i don't think an ethnic nation is needed to be a christian nation, (after all heaven will have a mix of people from different nations worshipping the same God) but thank you for explaining your position so thoroughly

[@interestedmeow]

@@Zaloomination indeed. Rev 5:9 is extremely clear about his family being made up of all the nations. That is essential to understanding the clear and tight ties between Babel and Pentecost that Luke makes. All nations will be a part of the kingdom, through the persons of every nation that are saved. What I am arguing is that these brothers are using an unbiblical definition of nation to twist Christ’s commission into permitting, nay commanding, Christians to take dominion over the modern nation state they live in. They believe this to be a pleasing aroma to God and are essentially attempting to realize Christ’s kingdom for him before he returns. They envision an end to all things where Christ is welcomed on a red carpet to the earth because they and their direct bloodline descendants (not spiritual siblings) were successful in eliminating evil through coerced Torah observance in unbelievers. Christ doesn’t care to have his children give him a nation’s load of worthless good deeds done by the power of human will. He desires that every tribe, tongue and ethnicity be represented in his family through a genuine conversion and faith.

[@Psalm144.1]

@@interestedmeow “Coerced Torah observance?” You sure would have hated growing up in America in the 1790s where every state had a state religion, all religions were legal but only Trinitarianism was publicly ok, and there were Christian Sabbath laws against conducting business on Sunday. Eventually when public school opened up in America, Protestant Christianity and the Bible was taught as curriculum. It was taught so much that Catholics began to start their own parochial schools.

[@drummersagainstitk]

To anyone reading the comments. Christian Nationalism IS the book "To My Legionaries" by Corneliu Codreanu. Read it! It is not the Westminster Confession of Faith. Its as simple as that.

[@wbdill]

The idea of a secular nation is a recent idea. One that started with the US Constitution in 1787.

[@aspirated777]

“… endowed by their Creator…”- Declaration of Independence.

[@wbdill]

@@aspirated777 the Dec. Of Ind. isn't the Constitution.

[@aspirated777]

@wbdill the American Constitution does not exist without the Declaration of Independence and is given legitimacy through it. They are our founding documents, along with the documents of the original states, many of which acknowledge God, such as the Virginia Charter for example.

[@wbdill]

@@aspirated777 That is a bald (and false) assertion. The DoI has zero to do with the nation's laws. The Constitution does not rely on the DoI nor is it "given legitimacy" through it. Whether or not any state "documents" acknowledge God or not is moot to the claim that the US Constitution is the first ever SECULAR Constitution on the planet. It explicitly forbids religious tests for office and forbids Congress from favoring any religion over any other (or non-religion)

[@aspirated777]

@wbdill the Constitution is a procedural document. Procedural documents aren’t inherently religious or secular, they’re just rule books. The facts remain though that the circumstances and documents surrounding the creation of the Constitution were for religious freedom and an acknowledgement of God-given rights. You want it to be secular so bad.

[@ronaldsmall8847]

4:20 minute mark: That was me too. I had no idea what Christian Nationalism was and heard about it for the first time not that long ago. I couldn't figure out what in the world it was, but it sounded no different than other make-believe pejoratives like homophobic. Now that I am figuring out what it is by watching this and some videos from Right Response Ministry, I found out that I have been a Christian Nationalist for years.

[@ronaldsmall8847]

@@AnneofAvonlea The papacy is not Christian. So you went off the rails. Christ is already King. If you're waiting around to be part of His kingdom, you need to repent and turn to Christ now.

[@shimminykricket5470]

Both "nationalism" and "Christianity" should be viewed with suspicion separately in the US. "Christian nationalism" should *really* be viewed with suspicion.

[@terry4137]

Why? It’s looking after your own country and one who believes in God

[@shimminykricket5470]

@@terry4137 That's not what it's about at all. It's bullshit, really.

[@MarioBeanes-v6q]

No it's fascism.101

[@JonahPleatherbooth]

​@@terry4137 It is Bowing before the god of this world in the wilderness

[@djduane07]

Not one Black head in the congregation. Interesting.

[@faridhanov7655]

Is that all that you care about?

[@yvettewatson1483]

😂

[@robertlong4833]

Let's make it simple it's a devil trying to divide us. That's it

[@johnheart6890]

Excellent in all ways!

[@bipslone8880]

I bet you can't define "Woke" .......and demonstrate an example and how it's wrong.

[@johnheart6890]

@@bipslone8880 the definition of woke: the extreme dogma of the left, which cannot be questioned, debated, or challenged. I the supposition of this ideology is that the only thing that is meaningful in human existence is identity. All right, now to give an example. Letting grown men who have lived their entire lives as men, and spent their entire athletic lives as men, letting these male athletes suddenly “transition” to women and compete in women’s athletics is wrong. this Wolk, practice of leading male athletes compete as women is unfair, because of the physical differences between men and women. It is also immoral to make a lie, claiming that a man can transition into a woman’s body, and literally become a woman. That wasn’t much of a challenge. Try harder next time.

[@marksisto900]

In the 30s Nationalism was centralism..it took power from provincial government..To be Anti Nationalist was "decentralism": Today there is a movement towards Globalism.. So today, Nationalism is decentralism....I am a decentralist.., yes a Nationalist..