Voddie Baucham / Douglas Wilson's Man Rampant

[@VincentGonzalez-Bretado-hx1ig]

It's unique, that these two men, who have stood by their convictions on patriarchy, christian nationalism, and not wearing the yoke of the woke have beared the most lasting fruit of the men who had ministries from when I first converted 15 years ago (Driscoll, Chandler, Keller, ect.) I think that speaks for itself with whom the Lord is being preached faithfully.

[@dr.vonslifeinvesting6485]

Good observation

[@dmeek20]

I've thought about this for a while. Praying these brothers continue and finish strong!

[@domsuniga969]

Ole J Mac is at 55 years just saying and Dr Lawson is 40 plus

[@xAgent_Smithx]

Agreed

[@ClansmanK]

What are some of the commenters thoughts on heathen Nationalism? Seems like we should be more worried about them than Christians. It will be their laws and policies we will be forced to keep. This phrase Christian Nationalism is just another phoney phrase to shame people into not participating in their own Nations politics. Just another label to manipulate people like Islamaphobe or homophobe. It's coming from Marxists and when people use the pulpit to shame Christians what they really are is obvious. The word Snakes comes easily to mind.

[@alleadonai]

When I see Doug Wilson and Voddie Baucham I click. Two of my favorite people, thanks for sharing 🤍

[@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe4284]

When you see these two fake christians, you should run the other way.

[@YESHUASlave]

Amen. Same for James White; James, Doug Wilson, Joe Boote, and Voddie. Of course some others, but Amen!

[@YESHUASlave]

Oh hey, i just looked at who it is. This is ChîRhôpher Lazarus. How have You been, Sister?

[@dumisanexego1770]

Of course

[@LuciferisJesus-mv9hp]

@@dumisanexego1770 ,...These two are 100% frauds and are NOT Christians. Repent of your ignorance and your fake christianity, all of you!

[@brynwaddell8698]

Two men, who are sane, talking with with Godly wisdom and rationale. What breath of fresh air in today’s world.

[@Tracy-Inches]

Not sure what air you are breathing otherwise, But a great breath of Yah’s blessing is over on channel “hanging on his words” Yah bless

[@JesusistheonetrueGod]

@@Tracy-Inches I'm sure he's breathing the same air as other humans. But the breath of fresh air is a saying, not to be taken literally. To Lord Jesus be the glory.

[@wonderlife62]

Yes they have the wisdom and rationale to say, “ infants are objects of Gods wrath”…yes that kind of breath coming out their mouth is probably the most vile and stinky

[@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe4284]

You are completely deceived. These two men are NOT Christians.

[@Tracy-Inches]

@@JesusistheonetrueGod Jesus is the Son of the One True God(YHWH)

[@OhioCoastie94]

Two men who both deserve respect for their faithful service to Jesus.

[@mriconoclast13]

Curious that they can spend an hour talking about what Jesus wants yet never make any serious reference to His Word.

[@joshtanner5057]

😢😢😮kids UK rcly hw 😢🎉

[@Tracy-Inches]

Only the Son? What about the Father?

[@wonderlife62]

Hypocrisy shouldn’t be celebrated or praised

[@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe4284]

The truth is, neither of these two men are Christians.

[@KalliBella1]

Thank You, Lord for giving us these two men for the benefit and blessing of Your Church. May You keep and preserve them for Your glory.

[@icepick3528]

Theres enough alcohol up there to preserve them for life.

[@MetalSharpensMetal]

Love these guys! Their work has blessed me greatly over the years.

[@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe4284]

Their work has only deceived you and led you into the lake of fire with them. Repent!

[@MetalSharpensMetal]

@@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe4284 a short youtube comment is the perfect means to damn my soul, thanks! If you really believe this, why not provide some Biblical basis?

[@michaelmartin5995]

Two Godly men being mightily used by the Lord. Excellent content!

[@hewhohasearstohearlethimhe4284]

These two are not Godly men. They are wolves in sheeps clothing and they have deceived you. Reent!

[@icepick3528]

And that bottle.

[@BirchKST]

I haven't heard Voddie laugh so much in an interview as today! You can tell these brothers love each other's company!

[@icepick3528]

Well that's what alcohol does.

[@ApokMendaje-mz2tp]

Pastor thanks you all. For God glory my God Blessed You and continue to use you to preach and word of God

[@virginiaweir-hj1rt]

God bless you, Voddie, from your ex-lesbian now Christian pal in the UK!

[@americandropbear5081]

Why would a married man have a female pal?

[@michaelkendall1263]

​@americandropbear5081 she's just saying she's a fan dude

[@Geeekyqueeen]

Praise God

[@timvandermey4792]

Thank you for releasing this!

[@michaeljay4816]

I deeply appreciate this discussion. Thank you.

[@dianacarr5515]

Yes, a breath of fresh air. Truth is soothing to the soul, even though it sometimes stings a little initially.

[@aaronhale8455]

A blessing to see brothers sit down and talk together instead of taking cheap shots by way of twitter of other social media platforms. Thanks for sharing.

[@christophermanley3602]

Agreed

[@davidofengland9557]

Great discussion

[@moeesco36]

Good stuff here men! Please keep advancing the Gospel!

[@MikeFree22]

Two of my favorites. I more closely align with Voddie on some things and Doug on others…but man I’m glad I have these two giants in my camp.

[@wills9392]

​@SitWhereTheySattrouble? like the kind the apostles got into?

[@xBurzurkurx]

@@wills9392 Nah, like the dudes who weren't apostles trying to cast out demons. "We know of them, but who are thee?" WWWWWOOOOOOOOPSSSS Better yeet on outta there

[@wonderlife62]

@@xBurzurkurxhmm interesting assessment…I might agree with you on that one!

[@marisolmagana6862]

We ought take the Gospel to the ends of the world definitely, but lets also take the true Gospel to the corner around our house, blessings to all ❤️🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻

[@johntoddstewart2183]

Two of the best voices for the truth of God's Word. May God bless you both!

[@LuciferisJesus-mv9hp]

Two of the biggest frauds in the 100% apostate christian church.

[@Mr01Sylver]

#ThankYou for the solid, thoughtful and illuminating discussion and Q&A. I am familiar with Jody bottom from years ago that I heard him speak at a homeschool conference in Phoenix and have followed him since but not Pastor Doug Wilson. This was very helpful to me to differentiates and coalesce Christian and nationalism without it being a presumed pejorative. Thank you again will continue to study and read the word of God and follow you for clarification to agreement in these troubling times. Hebrews 12:1,2, Psalm 139

[@person6768]

We need Voddie Baucham to come back and run for president

[@thesagetraveler7649]

He would be treated worse than Clarence Thomas and who needs that? Plus I would miss his preaching.

[@sourPollo]

So true!

[@carlthefrog]

President of Liberia

[@AaronGardner98]

You must be joking.

[@JesusistheonetrueGod]

Then we might lose a good pastor for a time.

[@kimberlyax9645]

I struggled with visual.. literally, started looking up what Calvinist believe to justify the whiskey.. live in metro area of Portland Oregon. I from Boise Idaho…. So yeah get extremes . This visual broke my heart. My pastor here in Portland area is a good pastor.. and he had warned us as flock living in Portland where addiction issues are huge…. He has policy no drinking for staff.. he said “ how would you feel if you called me up and were struggling with a spouse or child that was addicted and I met you at door with cocktail in my hand?” Your job as pastors is to protect the sheep.. please keep that in focus..

[@virginiaweir-hj1rt]

Show me in the Bible where it says you shouldn't drink!

[@HappyPenguin75034]

@@virginiaweir-hj1rtwell it says don’t be drunk - be sober minded (many aspects). So if anything affects your thinking you are drunk. More than a few sips of wine or maybe one sip of liquor. Today alcohol mix drinks are much stronger than in the time of scripture being written. So yeah really should avoid for most part and entirely can’t hurt.

[@paulm5421]

@@virginiaweir-hj1rt Don’t do good things that look bad nor bad things that look good We should not be a stumbling block to brethren even if what we do is not forbidden

[@henrylopez7721]

Interesting you know How Doug and Voddie should lead their flocks.....

[@HappyPenguin75034]

@@henrylopez7721 we do know - God said how in the Bible. Wow.

[@1798iscomingback]

I'm a true immigrant (unfortunately I need to explain I'm a legal immigrant) and I can attest that America IS NOT racist. From my point of view, God loves America so much that he currently gave many true preachers like Voddie, McCarthur, Piper, Paul Washer, etc....

[@teresafarrell6457]

Chris Rosborough.

[@alainm6070]

Saying that "America" is or is not racist does not mean much because "America" is not a single entity with one mind and one worldview. A better inquiry would be to find out if racism, overt or not, still exists in America. The answer to this question could easily be found in the comment section of articles in Foxnews, Newsmax, or Breitbart about one or more black people. Evidence of racism can also be equally easily found in social media groups like those affiliated with the Nation of Islam which shows that all races can be guilty of racism. This does not mean that all or even most Americans are racist but racism is still a reality in this country. Not talking about racism to combat it is as effective as not talking about sin to overcome it (racism is a form of sin after all). One should avoid the extremes of not seeing racism or seeing it everywhere. The Bible with its concept of all men made in the image of God gives us the moral foundation to overcome racism or not engage in it because racism is a direct denial of God's image in man.

[@markb3786]

New laws are passed every month in the South that make it hard for black people to vote.

[@1798iscomingback]

@@markb3786 When you consider that most of the v ot ing m ac hines are fr au dul ent, that is beyond crime....

[@lisadee6317]

Take OFF the blinders! America is racist.

[@BirdDogey1]

Love both of these guys.

[@danielfunk7380]

Voddie is the best Christian apologist of our time. Praise God for his ministry!

[@luboshcamber1992]

@danielfunk7380 Then you must have never heard about Dr. James White. Voddie himself would tell you that dr. White is the best bar none.

[@TheReformingBerean]

He (Daniel) doesn't know Vocab Malone

[@sandravarrenti927]

Amen!!!

[@Doz-13579]

​@@luboshcamber1992White😅😅😅😅😅😅 CALVINIST, so you are one also, to Respect such ism teachers! Hey, why not go with Ellen White😅

[@tropicalpines4585]

This is the best dialogue I have seen on this topic in a while. I think it’s hard to disagree with this if you call yourself a servant of Christ.

[@atoa642]

59:44 books mentioned 1. Idols for Destruction: The Conflict of Christian Faith and American Culture by Herbert Schlossberg 2. The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self: Cultural Amnesia, Expressive Individualism, and the Road to Sexual Revolution by Carl R. Trueman 3. We Become What We Worship: A Biblical Theology of Idolatry by G. K. Beale 4. The Quest for Cosmic Justice by Thomas Sowell 5. The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation as a Basis for Social Policy by Thomas Sowell 6. Fault Lines by Voddie Baucham

[@ACBRADY]

Awesome conversation!

[@theaaronrunningpodcast]

Really enjoyed this conversation

[@TiaKruimel]

I feel like I’m in a room w a couple of my uncles having a great conversation and I’m just listening in..

[@camirichardson7485]

I love Voddie Baucham!

[@billybob-wx2re]

love both these guys!!

[@roberttoomey1755]

Thanks for good interview!!!

[@makeitcount179]

So good. I need to take notes. Many great quotes

[@darlenewait528]

Excellent! Very informative!

[@LorinPartain]

I like the point about doing what pleases God or not. Do we want to do what pleases God as a nation or not ? That question perfectly frames the debate, and of course I say we should have laws that pleases God as a nation.

[@sifx.z1524]

You cannot legislate pleasing God. Enforcing laws forcefully won't make a state godly. Instead, lead people to Christ through words, deeds, and compassion, rather than fixating on gaining power in a secular government system unrelated to Christianity.

[@oracleoftroy]

@@sifx.z1524 The thing is, both OP and you can be right. You can't force people to have faith by law, but you can legislate in a way that pleases God. It's a question of what ought to be illegal. For example, God hates murder and rape, and it would be just for a Christian people to condemn those things and create laws against them as a society. Just because a law against murder won't make a person godly, it can stop a person from otherwise harmful behavior and remove those who don't think the law ought to apply to them. It is a form of loving one's neighbor to desire just laws and just punishments. If we can agree on that much, then it is a question of how we know what laws and punishments are just. As a Christian, I think God has something to say about it in Scripture what we should study and seek to apply. But if we reject God's example of civil law, what do we do? Enforce whatever seems right in our own eyes as if we are God, knowing good and evil?

[@sifx.z1524]

@@oracleoftroy I get what you're saying, but it's best if church and state stay totally separate. Think about it: God judges us by our hearts, not by the laws we make. You speak of the 6th Commandment that our laws can handle, but they can't cover the first 5! It's better to please God by what's in our hearts than what we have enacted as laws on paper.

[@oracleoftroy]

@@sifx.z1524 I think when we study scripture, we see that God sets up two spheres of government, one of civil government run by the city elders and appointed regional leaders and the high judge, and one of the church run by the Levites. However, _total_ separation doesn't seem to be the case. The church has a role in speaking to the evils of civil government and calling them to repent and do as God commands, and the civil government has a duty to protect the church. But the church is not the state and the state is not the church. Moreover, not all sins are crimes. Take murder. God lays out civil cases that result in civil penalties for murder. But Jesus also calls hate murder, yet we see no civil punishment. I think if one would do a proper study of scripture and the law, much of these kind of objections against God's law simply go away as scripture doesn't support it. In fact, the way to fight that kind of abuse is to go to scripture and advocate for what God has said rather than run away from scripture and put in place people who hate God and do what is right in their own eyes.

[@oracleoftroy]

@@sifx.z1524 I have stated that we should legislate according to the example set forward by God's example of just civil law. I think God already gives an example of separating church and state: he has different offices for civil rulers (town elders and the high judge, later the king to rule civil matters, the Levitical priesthood and the high priest and prophets to rule in church matters). The church had a role to call rulers to rule in godly ways and enforce godly laws, but they were not in charge of civil matters. Likewise, the state had a role in protecting and supporting the function of the church, but were not in charge of actually doing the day to day governance and services provided by the church. Are you saying even more than this when you say church and state should be *totally* separate? What does that entail? Christians shouldn't vote or seek office? If a person in civil power becomes a Christian, they should resign immediately? Or should Christians deliberately vote in a way that goes against Christian values and vote as it pleases atheists and Muslims and any other religious viewpoint to keep God's ideas of just laws as far from the civil realm as possible? And the last bit confuses me. Scripture speaks of our fruit revealing our heart. But you seem to say the Christian's fruit should be to seek injustice in society because it is better to be a Christian in the heart and not live like it in the voting booth or in executing justice. Was Nahum wrong to confront David or John the Baptist to confront Herod? Was it wrong for Jesus to support his cousin and decry Herod? Or Paul to confront Felix and Agrippa the way he did? The thing is, scripture (both old and new testament) is full of examples of the church calling kings and others in power to repent and govern as God would have them govern. I don't see how we can separate this God given role from the church. But that is very different from merging the church with the state. The church should govern ecclesial matters and the state civil matters.

[@jasonhinkle4083]

Both of these men are kings of analogy. They have such a profound, god-given ability to help people understand and comprehend God's truth in comparison to reality.

[@LuciferisJesus-mv9hp]

These two ungodly men have nothing to do with the God or Christianity of the Bible.

[@jasonhinkle4083]

@@LuciferisJesus-mv9hp Compelling argument. 🙄

[@LuciferisJesus-mv9hp]

@@jasonhinkle4083 ,,..If you want a compelling argument, read the Bible and learn what the truth, the gospel, and the Christianity of the Bible really is. Stop listening to and praising ungodly men.

[@jasonhinkle4083]

@@LuciferisJesus-mv9hp What specifically have these men said that you believe is antithetical to the truth, the gospel, and Christianity? Please explain.

[@LuciferisJesus-mv9hp]

@@jasonhinkle4083 ,,...It doesn't matter what they have specifically stated. The fact is they are NOT Christians. They are both the sellers of the Godless worlds counterfeit (antichrist) christianity. Their entire christianity is an unbiblical manmade fraud. Sure, like all Godless cults, they say some things that are correct as they have to. If they didnt state some Biblical truth here and there, no one would be deceived by them. They are both wolves in sheeps clothing, everything the Bible warns you not to be deceived by. They are just the representatives of the apostate church and of its antichrist christianity that the entire church sells to the lost. All the churches pastors, preachers, teachers are all frauds. I suggest you read all of 2nd Peter Ch. 2, as well as the book of Jude. (and the entire Bible) The christianity of these ungodly men and of the church is not the Christianity of the Bible. 2 Peter Chapter 2 1, "But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2, And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3, And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."

[@joshuamitchell5481]

Ever wonder where all the names came from? What a great conversation between 2 men. Thank you

[@Fetsimo]

Love these two Godly men ❤

[@masterdaveedwards]

Whatever brand it is within Christendom…it’s beautiful

[@suestudebaker8866]

Great interview

[@simbawhite968]

Great chanel! GOD BLESS YOU!🙏

[@NilodeRoock]

All I can say is... thanks to the both of you. Beautiful talk.

[@leonardwilliams2796]

this was very very good i enjoyed every minute thank you

[@freddydunford2992]

good discussion

[@sburns90]

The last question was the best one for that video to end on, especially with the resources they listed and with Voddie's last comments.

[@michaellotz1811]

I really wish...that your content was two decibels louder. I often listen with earbuds at work where it's very loud and I only catch about 50% of what's being said, so even though this is totally my problem, if you could please just crank it up a notch just for me that would be great, thank you!

[@brendaevans1378]

For black Americans being WOKE simply means understanding what's going on around you it also means being educated 🤔🤷🏽🤯😱🫣

[@nikkigrace3816]

“Where is this other place you are trying to emulate?”……. GREAT QUESTION! Where is the other nation you perceive as so much better, America? Which one is it exactly?

[@jakebredthauer5100]

China, officially atheist.

[@EverEverOn]

America 125 years ago.

[@jakebredthauer5100]

@@EverEverOn The revolutionaries want America to be one way and the counter-revolutionaries want America to be another way.

[@EverEverOn]

@@jakebredthauer5100 not disagreeing. Nobody wants the America of today. Leftists want their utopia, elitist establishment want China-esque. The rest of us, a previous version of America, like 125yrs ago (for me).

[@robertdages5392]

Really interesting !

[@Yesica1993]

I look forward to watching this when I am able. Whoa, now that's what I call a crossover!

[@Apol-los]

A Marxist ideal lived out of “free sex” was a very important point that Doug highlighted. How you get a Viking/Motorcycle Gang type of society versus men submitted to the sexual cycle of females and producing a healthy society 👌🏻👏🏻

[@robpartain6799]

I would still like a response, from one of them, for why they felt it necessary to have hard alcohol present during their discussion.

[@HelenEisenhaure]

It does seem unnecessary...if they were at each other's homes...and both brothers are of equal maturity...that's one thing...but those of us who have struggled with alcohol addiction...it again..in my opinion...is an unnecessary accessory to this conversation....

[@Pizza-nd3yj]

Jesus Christ is Lord and God. Amen. Bless His Name.

[@Holly-hl1vm]

Thank you for sharing this. I’m reading through Jesus and the Powers which definitely recommends “just a seat at the table.”

[@Mauser_.]

25:24 wow! One of the most powerful points ever made 👏👏👏

[@EmilGhiurau]

Jesus Christ is King!

[@Swingn2plants]

I needed to hear this today, because I would have thought American was just void of God.. So glad to hear your perspective

[@michaelkendall1263]

Are you from America? God is strong and alive here. It's just not what's broadcast to the world. 100s of millions of people are against what's going on in our country

[@Swingn2plants]

@@michaelkendall1263 I've been on the dark side of life for 13 years away from God. Just really coming back.

[@GradiorDignus]

So I’d like to know how students can afford to go to the college because maybe the Holy Spirit wants me to figure out how to get involved and helping in that area what’s the gist of any of that? Let me know, before my dad left for heaven He had a lot to do with growing Liberia’s children so maybe that’s something I should be doing in Zambia

[@davidlakvold8380]

I have my volume at max and I'm in a quiet room and yet I struggle to hear the dialogue. It isn't my ears. Could someone at Canon Press check the audio settings and repost? I'd rather have to turn down the volume than have to read the closed caption.

[@davidlakvold8380]

@@daniel.s8126 Thanks, but I would not have made the comment if it was fine on my side. The audio can easily be boosted in the software the video was created in. Daniel, are you in charge of the production or just a random commenter trolling the comments?

[@brendaross5431]

I am listening to what you both are saying, but distracted by what your drinking on the table, is it alcohol? Forgive me if I'm wrong.

[@cosmictreason2242]

You are wrong to be bothered by it yes

[@mitchc3569]

What if it is? Does not our Holy Bible tells us “All Things In Moderation”? I don’t understand the purpose of your question.

[@Diallelus]

Let’s goooooo

[@Globeguy1337]

7:10 “History will record with the greatest astonishment that those who had the most to lose did the least to prevent it happening.”

[@23tylbri]

Great conversation, but the real question is…what kind of whiskey (bourbon? Scotch? Ice tea?) are they drinking?

[@johndoh795]

We shouldn't wait for things to come crashing down to organize.

[@lisadee6317]

Reform not revolt!

[@dianacarr5515]

Great will be your reward in heaven!!

[@BlueMarten]

- Does Baucham have a dedicated channel or podcast? I've looked for a place to listen to his collected sermons, or something like that, but I've just had to hunt and find one here and one there.

[@OhioCoastie94]

He doesn't. The man's extremely busy.

[@ReformedIndeed76]

Grace Family Baptist Church is the channel name.

[@sophienoel26]

There are channels under his name but they are people impersonating him.

[@lizakamomboyd6965]

Sermon Audio and Canon Press.

[@jennesset1102]

@@ReformedIndeed76. That’s what I was going to say. I believe this was his church before he moved to Zambia. They have many sermons.

[@eliastillery8137]

May I suggest to incorporate or join forces with Jordan Peterson school.. 🎉❤

[@JensSchirner]

German viewpoint: only very few countries in the whole world are blessed to survive as Christian countries in this century, definitely NOT Europe. Love this from the German diaspora, God bless you two, America and Zambia.

[@makeitcount179]

I love Voddie and Doug

[@nopenope7777]

Around 46:00 I love how voddie calms the fears of persecution. The enemies of Christ are weaker and less violent now than in the past. Christians shouldn't get complacent but it's not the main concern the church faces. The devil is sly and sneaky. He is weakening the Church from the inside out.

[@lazydragonslayer]

4:35 thank you.

[@debbiemills4547]

I'm 72 and feel like I live on another planet now......the America I grew up in looks so different now....I hate all the lies and this thing called hate speech and racism....and now the woke stuff and pronouns....I don't know how to deal with it....😢

[@hbdad12]

Doug is free to drink alcohol, including hard liquor. However, I question his judgment and wisdom to publicly consume hard liquor in front of an unknown and mixed public audience during a discussion on Biblical values vs worldly values. What was the purpose of that and how does he think that makes him more manly? I noticed Voddie didn’t touch his glass.

[@raskolnikov6443]

More manly? What?

[@hbdad12]

@@raskolnikov6443 Follow me. If he thinks that by publicly drinking hard liquor is a sign of his masculinity, then the reasoning would follow if he does not drink hard liquor publicly, he is displaying or possessing less masculinity. I don't know any public conservative Christian leader that would drink alcohol, let alone hard liquor publicly or on a video posted to KZbin for millions around the world to see. Maybe you can respond to that point since that is the more serious concern, his poor judgment.

[@beegirl8884]

I was wondering the same thing. Gives me pause.

[@peterbranch1425]

can you not drink alcohol as a reformed baptist?

[@SteadyWaters]

I was shocked to see that. Voddie likely wasn't expecting that, and no surprise he didn't indulge.

[@mchristr]

Two of my favorite dude men on the planet. There's more gospel faithfulness in those 2 chairs than in a thousand pulpits.

[@LuciferisJesus-mv9hp]

You could not be more blind, lost, deceived, unsaved, and steeped in ignorance. Repent!

[@jennesset1102]

If these two men talk eschatology, then I’m done for!!!! Please consider.

[@Americanwoman74]

Tiff Shuttlesworth is superior to them both on eschatology. Sorry Voddie but being a post milliniest? Your denial of the rapture? Pastor Tiff has 50 yrs of eschatology under his belt and you don't hold a candle. Eschatology is not your area of expertise.

[@QBert904]

Hearing two Godly men have a conversation about the ridiculous culture we live in is a breath of fresh air. God bless you gentlemen

[@carsounds123]

I HAVE QUESTION DID HE SERVED ALCOHOL TO HAVE A NICE TALK???

[@sunnydays8270]

@cancunnowgq8323 And so? Christians can drink just not unto drunkenness. My Lord Jesus drank wine.. so stop clutching your pearls over it. 😂

[@fletchep]

The Baptists have traditionally not consumed alcohol at all have they? I agree with above: alcohol may be consumed but not abused..after all “it’s not what goes into a man’s body that defiles him, but that which comes out”

[@virginiaweir-hj1rt]

I am a Baptist and I take rum to settle my stomach. The Bible does not say don't drink. It says don't get drunk!

[@wonderlife62]

They are just drinking casually on stage because it’s no big deal! They have first class seats at Jesus table with special permission because they please him most…Like Augustine, they are allowed to make the rules and reinvent the meanings of scripture whenever they want. 😄

[@luboshcamber1992]

@wonderlife62 Another crying Arminian not finding any better way how to be quarrelsome?

[@angelogrotti]

Happy Father’s Day 🎉

[@justpassingthruuu]

Great to listen to... confirms Romans, especially chapter 1 verse 32... go read it and weigh yourself !

[@hermanstrom3948]

I looked at my white undershirt and realized I failed my "whiteness" test. 😂😊😅 I've never seen anyone have white or black skin color. I'm not "white" and my race is human. Acts 17:26

[@loganross1861]

My wife’s mom doesn’t like Doug Wilson. Her criticisms are vague and sketchy. “He’s weird”. “I know someone who….” But nothing specific, just smoke. The more I listen to him he just sounds very reasonable.

[@hectoraavila4774]

Why do we Christian always have to compare with ungodly people to set a standard? This is more like advocating for a political gain. Let’s make all nations Christian and problem solved. The church should just continue preaching the gospel and don’t worry about what the nations do.

[@NicholasRyan0723]

Except God's word tells us otherwise. In the great commission Jesus tells us to "teach the nations to obey all that I ha e commanded."

[@hectoraavila4774]

@@NicholasRyan0723 absolutely not saying not to preach the gospel to all nations but nowadays we Christians feel that we need to hear that certain nation is now a Christian nation. That’s my argument. And again, real Christians shouldn’t be taking the position that having politicians calling themselves Christians will solve everything and unfortunately the more we keep playing politics in the church, the more we’re losing. Jesus will not lose but our job as the scripture says, we’re not doing it.

[@happyappy19931]

The church should be the conscience of the government. We are to occupy until he comes. It’s harmful to allow evil people to run amuck in government or anywhere else. You’re harming your neighbors by abdicating your responsibility to participate in all levels of society and point to Jesus. Yes, share the gospel. We can walk and chew gum.

[@JJFrance]

I think you can be a cultural Christian ie want to live in a place founded on Christian principles but salvation is by faith in Jesus Christ through grace and Christianity can only be spread by evangelism, not by force of law or military.

[@EverEverOn]

Founders ministries has a good video on this topic recently and while your first half is correct the second is not. A good example is that of the godly kings of Judah who forcefully tore down the asherah, the high places, unalived those who worshiped there. A "strong" man approach works to reset culture to a godly one. The relationship with Christ is individual, but the framework for that to happen and perpetuate can be external through a strong man approach. Works in reverse too, and our enemy uses it well.

[@JJFrance]

@@EverEverOn I assume you believe we are still under Mosaic Covenant and not a new Covenant of the Gospel of Jesus Christ...

[@EverEverOn]

@@JJFrance Ah yes the disingenuous strawman. Whenever I see someone write about an individual relationship with Christ, my first thought is...still holds to the old covenant . Lol.

[@xBurzurkurx]

@@EverEverOn you literally just used the Old Covenant. There is no "strong man approach", and Christian nationalism, if it wasn't obvious enough, but take a closer look at the word itself and Christian theology. It's the antichrist system. It's no surprise, though. Having dipped my feet in both, I can tell you that we have some REALLY BAD ACTORS (both in its actual meaning and as well as literal bad actors cause this whole ruse is obvious to me now) on the Orthodox Christian side of KZbin and abroad pushing for the exact same thing. It's not a coincidence at all. I'm starting to think, as a Slav myself, that at the very least, Russian slavs are the Tribe of Dan from which the antichrist will come. I'm sure most people know that theory by now, having to do with the Danube, D(a)nieper etc. I haven't actually studied the etymology of either name and realize this honestly will remain a shot in the dark until whenever it is that we will know who the tribes are, but I am basing my hunch on vastly different reasons. So, anything else just adds. No country is Christian and you can bet your bottom dollar that not a single one truly will be, let alone multiple ones, in the likened days of Noah and actually far worse. As it is written that it will be worse and that the Earth will not have seen that amount evil in its entire existence, and never shall it be again when the New Earth and New Jerusalem are created. Entropy is as scientific a term as it is biblical. There will be no revival. There will be a great falling away. There will be no "we have to get organized because stupid is unsustainable" as Wilson said in this. Unsustainable? Lucky... I don't know what world or Gospel you are in, but when the eschaton describes an Earth that is worse than the days of Noah and we are trying to stop it with "Christian Nationalism" are we not fighting against prophecy? Are we not doing what Peter did when Christ told him "Get behind me, Satan."? Oh Jesus No! We have to fix this up right away there's no way we can let the world go down to degeneracy and- ..... oh... wait. Oops.

[@marquise2555]

It is interesting to me how many people in the comments are so focused on casting judgment on these two men before they give a compliment of anything they spoke of. My only hope is that most of the negative comments are from young Christians and not so-called mature Christians. If so, I can understand why our church has such issues. God, please forgive us for judging others instead of praying for them. It shows where we lack in our faith and our walk with God. We must do better if we decide to follow Christ!

[@nathansmith4597]

Dang! I don't live far from Moscow. Of I knew this was happening I would have been there.

[@questioneverything2522]

I pray for Voddie, when I think about some of the violence against Christians in Nigeria I think it is bold for Zambia to declare a Christian country. God be with Voddie and the country of Zambia.

[@xBurzurkurx]

Really? This is great and all but I don't remember anything about the world getting a break. In fact I specifically remember quite the opposite. I remember something like "WORSE THAN THE DAYS OF NOAH" and stuff like "MOST EVIL THE EARTH WILL WITNESS FOR A SHORT TIME, AND NEVER TO BE WITNESSED AGAIN" and "NEW EARTH AND NEW JERUSALEM".... I mean, forgive me if I'm wrong and please do correct me, but there is nothing new under the sun and the previous eschatological concepts directly imply entropy. Really bad entropy. Not a revival to whatever in Satan's anus Christian nationalism is. Don't delete my comment. I dare you.

[@the1der]

26:06 You mean gov t??

[@brandonfertig]

And all of the paedobaptists cried in the beginning when their beloved Pastor Wilson affirmed reformed baptists in being “confessionally reformed.” 😊

[@luboshcamber1992]

😆👍👍

[@ProfVonW]

The majority of paedobaptists don’t believe Wilson is “confessionally reformed” since he supports Federal Vision theology which has been ruled heresy by multiple conservative Presbyterian denominations. And his paedocommunion advocacy further puts him outside the bounds of the historic reformed confessions.

[@happyappy19931]

Born again, Bible believing Christian here. Everything else revolves around that. I wear no other titles.

[@loganross1861]

You have a drivers license? Social Security Number? Home Address?

[@williamnathanael412]

@redeemedzoomer6053 36:15 Doug's might be talking about you there

[@mriconoclast13]

Two men who claim to speak for Jesus yet don't feel any need to directly draw any of these political strategies out of His Word. But I am only 30 minutes in, if they get to an exposition of Scripture later please timestamp it below. I would like to be wrong.

[@mriconoclast13]

Wilson: Tribalism breeds war and globalism breeds tyranny. Then proceeds to defend nationalism which has bred both war and tyranny countless times. This incoherence is what happens when you don't get your ideas from a faithful exposition of the Word.

[@Born_again1984]

@@mriconoclast13 nationalism can easily turn into globalism if the ideology is trying to bring a global righteousness to fight the wicked. The antichrist will be a false righteous individual that will be so deceiving that even the very elect could be deceived. The first half of the antichrist reign will be a false righteousness reign. He will mimick the Christ, this is how he could use nationalism to bring an authoritarian regime. Dark ages 2.0 along with crusades. Plausible IMO. The world is crying for a Saviour. Jesus is the only one who comes to bring true righteousness. How can we be discerning so that Satan doesn’t give Christians deception in these last days??

[@WorthlessDeadEnd]

Regarding the brother at *55:16* the only thing I can think of is *Romans 10:13;* _For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved._ Although the Bible does not say one way or another, since babies (whether born or unborn) are incapable of even knowing that they have a need to call upon the name of the Lord, I believe the blood of Jesus covers them because they had not yet committed any sins, though they are born with a sin nature.

[@Olrakm]

volume needs increased

[@josueufc]

It that a bottle of liquor?👀

[@anthonyjackson5350]

Yes sir, you be right bout everything! Voodie please ! Project 2025 !

[@erikawoods8975]

The first advertisement I see? Barack asking for $ for Biden 😂 😅

[@christophermanley3602]

I didn’t see any ads

[@brendaross5431]

All things are lawful, but not essential. As christians we don't want to be a stumbling block, a bad witness. If, Im wrong, correct me.

[@Ripiandoelperico]

I wanna understand why do you need to go to school to serve God