Christian Tries to Prove the Reliablity of the Bible

[@publicpm8809]

Alhamdulillah for ISLAM

[@syedahmed8382]

Hands down, best dialogue ever. And cameo by Br Nizam was such a welcoming surprise. May Allah reward the team for their efforts and put barakh in our actions to live Islam through the Quran and Sunnah.

[@carlostyler6344]

Fact! This was definitely one of my favorite.

[@Justice-Barzackh]

With respect The trinitarian kept saying 'that's interesting'. Which denotes he hasn't much knowledge. He just responds with I think. And then goes on to mention a Muslim scholar that no one recognises. Do you ?

[@syedahmed8382]

​@@Justice-BarzackhI agree. There were many places where he was completely ignorant and had large knowledge gaps, both in on owing his own book, abd ours. I'm just glad that the speaker didn't berate him, and then spiral into "running away", changing the topic, etc. Calling out his ignorance in such a polite manner let the audience know where the issues lie, and still allowing him to speak (before he began Looping into himself). Exemplary video, where the dawah team was speaking to the audience, first and foremost, and the Christian speaker was simply the pivot to which the dawah took various detours to highlight deficiencies in the Bible, and areas of confidence and serenity and satisfaction in the Quran.

[@mzaiful]

The internet was the worst thing that could have possibly happened to Christian. 😬😬😬

[@odeebob7826]

He admits there’s a difference between the old and new Bible but claims there’s no corruption. He’s just deceiving himself 😂

[@ShaDaniela]

@@odeebob7826 IT IS ALL.ABOUT JESUS IN THE BIBLE .JESUS IS THE ALPHA Y OMEGA.. JESUS IS THE OLD TESTAMENT AND THE NEW TESTAMENT.. IT IS ALL ABOUT JESUS THE SON OF GOD .THE PROMISE SAVIOUR SINCE GENESIS 3 : 15. GENESIS 3 : 21

[@ahmadfahmy9239]

​@@ShaDaniela: its all about Jesus? What about Father and Holy Spirit? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ShaDaniela]

@@ahmadfahmy9239 Jehovah, our Father, and His Son Jesus Christ are alone to be exalted. The knowledge of God is eternal life to those who receive it. His holy banner is to stand elevated above all the greatness of the greatest men, above all the honor and glory of the world. “ JOHN 17. : 3. JOHN 3 ; 16. - 18. MARK.16 : 15 - 16

[@ShaDaniela]

GOD IS SPIRIT. AND HE IS HOLY . THE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE SPIRIT OF THE FATHER AND HIS SON . JOHN 14 : 23.

[@nargis751]

Nothing in the bible that says Christians worship 3 gods yet they’ve made 3 persons into god 😂

[@SanaSana-lw2co]

Exactly my thought 😄

[@ShaDaniela]

JESUS IS CHRISTIANITY .MUSLIMS INSTEAD TO.ACCEPT JESUS AS THEIR SAVIOUR .THEY PREFER TO WORSHIP A STONE WITH A HOLE IN .AND BOW. DOWN.THIS STONE AND KISS THIS WE KNOW THAT IS ABOMINATION OF THE GOD OF THE BIBLE . THE GOD ABRAHAM. The great Jehovah has proclaimed from His throne, “This is My beloved Son.” Matthew 3:17.“Jehovah, our Father, and His Son Jesus Christ are alone to be exalted. The knowledge of God is eternal lifeOur heavenly Father is the God of the universe, and Christ is the divine Son, the One equal with the Father.”JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD..JESUS IS DIVINE AS HIS FATHER. .JESUS HAVE THE SAME NATURE AS HIS FATHER . JESUS IS THE EXPRESS I EXACT MAGE AS HIS FATHER. .HEBREWS 1 : 3 JESUS IS GOD JOHN 1 : 1. - 3.

[@ShaDaniela]

allah IS NOT GOD .IF THERE IS A allah .JESUS IS THE CREATOR OF EVERYTHING .

[@ShaDaniela]

Colossians 1:16 “For by HIM were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by HIM and for HIM 5:57 ” JESUS IS THE CREATOR BY HIS FATHER That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. JOHN 1 : 9.

[@ShaDaniela]

The true God is distinguished from false gods by two special characteristics,-he can create and he can save. The false gods can do neither. Attention is called to this in the following scriptures. In the ninety-sixth psalm we read: “Sing unto the Lord, bless his name; show forth his salvation from day to day. Declare his glory among the heathen, his wonders among all people. For the Lord is great, and greatly to be praised; he is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the nations are idols; but the Lord made the heavens.” So we read again in Jeremiah 10:10-12: “But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king....

[@umairakhtarbahawal]

40:30 The Christian brother has been trying his utmost to outsmart brother Abbas but all his attempts have been dismantled one by one rationally.

[@Kirk-d7v]

@@umairakhtarbahawal Korans like Hafs and warfs? Please answer the question,did Muhammad (pbuh) walk with Jesus as one of the twelve. Or was he self appointed like brother Paul whom is part of the Bible which you Claim you can discuss.

[@umairakhtarbahawal]

@@Kirk-d7v Brother I couldn’t comprehend your question. Would you please explain again?

[@Kirk-d7v]

@@umairakhtarbahawal I am going to suggest you take the debate across to the *God Logic* podcasts live stream. Where he is able to discuss in detail what is happening.

[@umairakhtarbahawal]

@@Kirk-d7v I have watched him debating and arguing. His arguments do not sound rational to me. He makes up things without substantiating them.

[@Justice-Barzackh]

​@@Kirk-d7v Aah So you're one of nologic crew. Mj rood who ?

[@harrykuffal6516]

Why are Abbas and Nazam so polite not to school out this wise guy ? No, the Dead Sea Scrolls are not the same as the Old Testament, but they do contain parts Hebrew Bible's Tanakh. The scrolls also include other texts, such as hymns, prayers, commentaries, and the earliest version of the Ten Commandments.

[@shyneshiz]

He said the Dead Sea scrolls were found 200 years before Christ 😂😂😂. Laughable

[@ShaDaniela]

@@shyneshiz 5 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. JESUS SHALL BE WITH HIS CHURCH .HIS TRUE FOLLOWERS TILL THE END .NO ONE CAN DESTROY JESUS CHURCH.. MATTHEW. 16 : 15 - 18. And lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.” (Matthew 28:20

[@odeebob7826]

This Christian talked long enough, yet he contradicted himself, just like his own Bible

[@Kirk-d7v]

So you have read the Bible? I’m guessing the only section of the Bible you ever read was the book of *Hebrews* hence you confidence?

[@mashkoorelahi]

⁠@@Kirk-d7vI’m guess you must not have read your own Bible. The whole book is a contradiction. It couldn’t even get the name of the father of Joseph, husband of Mary, mother of Jesus right. If a book about Jesus cannot even agree on this genealogy not sure how can it ever be reliable.

[@Kirk-d7v]

@@mashkoorelahi That’s an elementary topic. Michael Rood covered that over a decade ago in his teaching called *the Chronological Gospels*

[@Justice-Barzackh]

​​@@Kirk-d7v With respect You keep mentioning this unknown "scholar" m.j rood. Who is he and what are his credentials ? M.j rood covered it ten years ago and no one knows who he is. Please What are his academic credentials.

[@Kirk-d7v]

@@Justice-Barzackh If you ask him he’ll say he doesn’t have a PHD (permanent head damage) in theology from a cemetery college, but he is anointed to teach. *Ephesians 4:7*

[@Noble_One]

Jazzak Allah Khair

[@umairakhtarbahawal]

37:17 The Christian brother 😖😖😖… making claims over claims without substantiating any. He is speaking out of his wishful thinking and out of blind faith.

[@ShaDaniela]

@@umairakhtarbahawal 2 The angels said in a loud voice, “All power, wealth, wisdom, and strength belong to the Lamb who was killed. He is worthy to receive honor, glory, and praise!”“All praise and honor and glory and power forever and ever to the one who sits on the throne and to the Lamb!” JESUS CHRIST .REVELATION. 5 : 12 - 13.

[@umairakhtarbahawal]

@@ShaDaniela Which part of Jesus PBUH died?

[@jonathanalvarez2253]

​@@umairakhtarbahawalhis body... then rose again on the 3rd day. Jesus never ceased to exist.

[@umairakhtarbahawal]

@@jonathanalvarez2253 When you say body, it refers to human essence. Where is the divine sacrifice in it?

[@umairakhtarbahawal]

20:49 First John 5:7 is an interpolation. It was added in 16th Century.

[@MrAftab1977]

The old Latin manuscripts of the new testament were called vetus latina date from the 4th to the 13th century that were recorded before Jerome's work.

[@Assyaroni]

Vetus Latina is from late 2nd century..the 4th century is called the Vulgate (Jerome's work)

[@ahmedd408]

this guy already got cooked by ijaz

[@zak9102]

Am I the only one who gets angrier at people who pretend to be genuine, nice, and sincere while spreading falsehoods and lies? I'd much prefer someone to be direct with their hatred than to put on this kumbaya act of being a genuine person.

[@mohammednasirmiah7715]

This guy likes dodging bullets, passive liar, bet he's an online troll as well. He could lie to get out of prison

[@SuperCoolFunHappyGuy]

This man is a liar, he says there are scholars who said 1st John 5:7 is in the manuscripts dated to the first and second century, and then cannot produce a single name. He clearly just says things about his holy book without evidence. Has a lot of critical thinking about the Qur'aan, but cannot apply even the basics of the same investigation against the very book he holds in his hands! No substance, and just following his own misguidance.

[@zakadam154]

Professional production

[@muhammadidzuan3455]

Now this is a conversation.

[@nargis751]

This guy is a weasel

[@Just_passing_through23]

It’s because he’s an upgraded Christian… “Born Again” They’ve been downloaded with added “change the subject when you cannot answer the question” files 😂

[@ALzzanam]

جزاكم الله خيرا

[@rasheedolamilekan7328]

MASHA ALLAH

[@fsgthelabel]

I'm convinced some of these videos are just for the content now. Because this guy has been rinsed by so many Muslims at this point.

[@Shabs2456]

Would you use a text book that had contradictions, errors to sit an exam? I wouldn’t, I want to be certain what I’m studying gets me a A* pass. Heaven.

[@realrazi]

Suffering servant is a servant, not a son...if you know what i mean.

[@ft7397]

14:00 there comes the delusion

[@baran1455]

Brother Nazam finally.. We missed you Ustad,where were you?

[@johnedward1852]

the bible also didnt say that god is three person and person is not the same as being either...the doctrine of trinity was concoct by the church

[@BunN954]

I always hear youtube while doing work. But this time i confused, both of their sound is soft i have problem to distinguish whos talking 😂😂

[@rehan0408]

Great

[@HereToStayRecruitment]

"Quoniam tres sunt, qui testimonium dant in caelo: Pater, Verbum, et Spiritus Sanctus: et hi tres unum sunt." (Translation: "For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one.") This longer version is found in some late manuscripts of the Latin Vulgate but is absent from the earliest Greek manuscripts. This has led to debates among scholars about its authenticity. Most modern translations of the Bible, including the New International Version (NIV) and English Standard Version (ESV), do not include the longer Trinitarian formula, as it is considered a later addition. The shorter version, without the explicit reference to the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, is typically found in the original Greek manuscripts. It reads something like: "For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three are in agreement." (1 John 5:8) So, the verse with the clear reference to the Trinity (Father, Word, Holy Spirit) is primarily found in Latin translations rather than in the earlier Greek manuscripts.

[@mustafam7431]

He says KJV is correct because it fits the doctrine, which Abbas mentioned and he rejected.

[@ClipofTheDayy]

Did he ask if the Quran was also a god? What is going on in speakers corner these days????

[@JasenkoOmerovic]

The messiah must be saved not killed Christian if anyone does not believe this is a Antichrist

[@moneyslaves1945]

CHRISTIANITY IS TALK TALK TALK AND TRY TO DECEIVE PPL. NO SANE PERSON CAN BELIEVE THAT GOD BECAME A MAN , CAME TO EARTH AND GOT KILLED.

[@Kirk-d7v]

It is not what the *God Logic* podcasts says though?

[@moneyslaves1945]

@@Kirk-d7v GODLOGIC WAS EXPOSED, REFUTED MANY TIMES...HE JUST BLA BLA BLA FOR VIEWS CLICKS AND MONEY

[@Kirk-d7v]

@@moneyslaves1945 What was he “refuted” on, Because I see a lot of disagreement but no correction from anyone’s the imam?

[@skdoremi6666]

I like to see the reaction and demeanour of the person brothers debate or have a discussion with...as much as I like the brothers,I don't need the camera of brother abbas face when he makes an argument...I rather see how the Christian is reacting to his statement.....no idea why the camera now is filming like they are some celebreties and we want to see their face all the time they talk....you guys are killing the purpose of thise discussion,2 parties standing face to face, just keep it neutral and stop focusing on people faces please.

[@deenszxking6818]

Good suggestion, and maybe you need to send it to their email directly for their attention. It's luck if they can see this message down here in comment section.

[@Justice-Barzackh]

​@@deenszxking6818 With respect Why are you complaining about subjective stuff. Come and join the Trini on ef Dawahs stream and have a debate. 👍

[@mohamedkaba8068]

Salaam In this life you are either intelligent or Christian. May Allah facilitate the understanding

[@Kal9222]

John 5:7 over 6000 times in the "old latin" and only snuck through once? and that one time challenged by all critical scholars? Please cease and desist, its embarrassing.

[@Jaysonjay]

He's like a car sales man trying to gaslight people into thinking they're buying a classy Rolls-Royce, when it's a Russian Lada /Fiat Strada

[@Joorawon.M.Yousuf]

The christian guy was being quite deceptive ‼️ He supposedly , in the very beginning , said he was gonna tryna and show/prove that they are not #PAGANS and don't worship 3 GODS but then went on to show that allegedly we Muslims are pagans by saying since the Qur'an is uncreated then it's another one god ⁉️‼️🤭🤭🤭👍

[@nargis751]

23:11 he just won’t answer the key question…. Who says it’s not corruption what a weasel no logic should be stamped on your head

[@FredFlintstone-]

This man came on to Farid’s stream and got entirely refuted by Ijaz regarding the Biblical manuscripts.

[@abubakerstemmet1345]

I've never seen anyone talking so much of nothing it's like running Ina circle blind and nonstop

[@JasenkoOmerovic]

The suffering servant is Israel not jesus pbuh amen

[@rashidaquil5284]

So for Christians Jesus is a servant of God or God himself? ..I am confused

[@user-kq8mj9zo4e]

29:00

[@predatorL89]

Despite all the overwhelming evidence of the bible being corrupted....he's still refusing to let it go. I feel sorry for him lol

[@mzaiful]

Its the fact that the bible do have contradicion.....🤔🤔🤔

[@DD23-1]

I honestly believe that not everyone should be debating! Just because you have the ability to talk, doesnt mean that you are fit to now go out there and debate Our Brothers with such Ignorance... Its actually quite embarrassing cause you cant take it serious and Our Brothers here like Abbas are showing such a high level of Respect by engaging in such an understanding manner, at the same time knowing that the christian is beyond confused and not an intellectual opponent at all! Alhamdulillah! May Allah Guide Us All!

[@TheDragonaf1]

Heres where I'm confused by his nonsense... How can a Latin text exist before the Romans took over the church....

[@mzaiful]

Delutional....?!? Or........

[@Spectre8702]

Christians and their endless yapping ...haha!😅

[@thehomelessproject3784]

This Christian guy is trying to hard to be nice whilst coming with an agenda...

[@Justice-Barzackh]

With respect. --- I think the trinitarian is looking to use efDawah to grow his channel. --- And i dont think he'll find any credible scholar or accredited academic that'll back up some of his subjective radical veiws. --- And it would have been nice to hear him respond to the points brought up. --- Instead of just saying "Thats interesting" ? --- He should've just said he wasnt aware of said scholarly Christian academic findings. And moved on. --- So now his homework is clear. --- Before jumping on the stream is. --- To review the video and take notes. Research those points. And respond in kind. In an academic and contextual manner. --- Instead of saying 'i think'. --- Which sounds Pharisee-esque. --- Cant wait to see who our trinitarian cousin in humanity brings with him on the stream. --- Didn't this guy try to debate ijaz ?

[@Kirk-d7v]

If he was trying to grow his channel wouldn’t he be debating scholars like *Michael J Rood*on his podcast the chronological gospels??

[@Justice-Barzackh]

M.j rood who ?

[@Justice-Barzackh]

With respect M.j.rood is one. Can you name the others please ?

[@Justice-Barzackh]

​@@Kirk-d7v With respect What's this trinitarian guys channel called ?

[@Kirk-d7v]

@@Justice-Barzackh If you pop his name in search he should just pop up on you tube I guess?

[@Shabs2456]

Archeology has proved the bible has errors, in the bible in the story of Joseph and Moses the bible refers to the pharaoh as pharaoh in bothe stories, but the Quran in the story of Joseph referees correctly to pharaoh as king and in Moses as pharaoh. Quran corrects the bible.

[@abbasSharulshanzcool]

Why not take the way how Islam preserves/identifies the Hadith and Al-Quran? such as authentic. weak or fake. (characteristics of the information carrier) Use common sense and compare which method can preserve each teaching that was handed down from the creator. If every teaching could be changed and supplemented by saying an inspiration or a dream, everyone would say the same thing. With that there is no end. (which one to follow)

[@arnoldjackson-q2j]

There is no need prove that Bible is reliable. Qur'an itself testifies that Bible is word of God and reliable.

[@RandomBananaSalad]

dont lie like your god paul

[@vincentwitt7919]

Christian you are totally wrong about John 5:7

[@Justice-Barzackh]

This trini guy has a nologic fan quoting m.j rood as one of "many scholars" that he's had on his channel ? The trini and "m.j rood" spoke on the chronicle gospels ? --- Anyone ever heard of m.j rood ? Dont be fooled by this trini or his godlogic fans in the comments.

[@urbandsouza7279]

Ya trinity bible jesus only u interested. Book man place no existence u avoid arul.

[@zaquanbhfssa]

All the yapping are lie from the Christian 😂

[@ft7397]

8:00 lol so lame dude look into your doctrine and he bible.

[@jay-g2s]

XTIANITY is nothing more than playing a game of words that don't line up ! lol

[@tylerdavid2569]

I couldn’t waist my life or Breath on these missionaries I feel like speakers corner is mostly a waist of time some sincere people go but most seem like clowns that want publicity and are not there for the argument

[@Kirk-d7v]

Do you think speakers corner would welcome back brother Avery from the (God Logic podcasts) back to the UK?

[@nargis751]

23:11 he just won’t answer the key question…. Who says it’s not corruption what a weasel no logic should be stamped on your head