Christianity After Religion: Diana Butler Bass at All Saints Church, Pasadena

[@LifterWill]

Wonderful presentation!! Thank you All Saints and Diana Butler Bass!! These are things that we have been discussing among my friends.

[@robinhoodstfrancis]

Wonderful stuff. I started out in high school back in the early 1980s, raised an atheist humanist. A non-religious friend asked me if I was an atheist. I basically was, but didn´t know much what it meant. I just got interested in looking up religion. My dad had a book in his pretty vast library by scholar Huston Smith, and I got intrigued by Taoism. I walked into a Unitarian Universalist congregation and read a pamphlet in which they supported individual spiritual paths......Interfaith seeking lasted for about ten years for me, until I engaged with Christian Science at its Reading Rooms. Yet, I never joined that church or any other. I´m an interfaith UU Christian, unaffiliated, with my identity in University based, US-UN civil and human rights society with Freedom of Religion, all in Jesus´ legacy of loving integrity and now, structured pluralism. Diane´s appreciation of the Muslim gay guy with the Caltech PhD is gushing about the future character, but it´s all happening in Jesus´ legacy as I described it. We are in a societal context, with individuals demonstrating how they can dissociate from doctrinal churches and the various sectors of ideological issues. I like calling it Jesus´ legacy in UN human rights - sustainability, but US University-based dynamism is pretty incredible.

[@Imaginone]

What is "needed" is live life that is in sync with Bible. No amount of high sounding "christian social analysis" will bring people to Christ. If orthodox Christians are conservative, it is because truth is difficult to DO. “The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried” - G. K. Chesterton.

[@groupchat2554]

Ah Chesterton. Its true. Turn of your tv and you are definitly not left wanting.

[@williamoarlock8634]

@@groupchat2554 Chesterton was a bourgeois windbag like every Christian 'intellectual.'

[@dougwigginton3983]

As to the group "who are kind of feeling alone... " What will be one of their first major task when they "hook up" with like minded people? They will of course establish what will eventually become another religion. And without question this " new religion" will develop its own set of rules, rituals and membership requirements. Therefore that which is being touted as new is actually nothing new at all.

[@markdavis9335]

Heard enough, just only a minute of the video. I like to ask anyone a question. Did what this lady say to any of you's, bring you closer to God????

[@rpsellers]

Mark Davis Yes... As a matter of fact? It did... Not the answer you were looking for???? (And I even added the three extra ??? marks here...)

[@antdx316]

+Mark Davis An NDE of a priest who died said saints are make-believe friends..

[@rebeccaparr8305]

you obviously, didn't understand the message - it is not the doctrine and traditions of various churches that bring people to God, it is the seeking of God, that each of us have to do in order to know God. It isn't just keeping some man-made rules.

[@marcd8252]

That where your problem is, "that each of us 'HAS TO DO', according to Who?

[@rebeccaparr8305]

Read it again - I am saying a person has to seek spirituality to become that way - it's not according to anyone - it is a personal choice - it ISN"T by following the doctrine of a church. Same principle as working your body to be strong or eating well to be healthy. If you want knowledge you have to seek it. If you don't care then you won't try.

[@socksumi]

Dictionary definition... Religion: The belief in and especially worship of a supernatural deity. Christianity perfectly conforms to this definition. Christianity IS a religion.

[@brymtb]

Howard Zinn is your hero...huh