Windows vs MacOS, why I switched…

[@TacoJolly]

I switched to Windows around 3 years ago, and honestly, I'm always looking for a reason to hop back to MacOS. I know that it's not perfect, but I am not a tech guy, and Windows is like having a constant argument, while MacOS is a guy who's kind of snooty but willing to help me out. OS really comes down to personal choice, temperament, and the job you're looking to get done. So I don't understand why people get so angry. It's just computers.

[@jayp9158]

Just curious, if you aren't a tech guy what are you doing in such a niche channel like this?

[@adriancandelario2902]

@@jayp9158 yea that's actually a good question. A lot of videos of this channel I say are for people for are at least somewhat into Tech

[@TacoJolly]

​@@jayp9158 I toy around with stuff. I'm just not good at it. Regarding tech hobbies, I thought about doing a home lab, but it didn't seem worth the money. I don't have any complex needs beyond simple file sharing. I might funnel my interest in science and technology into getting a HAM Radio license because communication systems have always fascinated me. On top of that, I do some freelance writing for tech companies on the side. I need to understand concepts and be able to follow along enough to get the job done. Channels like this and others on KZbin have been fantastic (Thanks, Christian!). It also lets me know what to ask IT people, programmers, and engineers when researching a project. The better questions I can ask, the better product I produce. For example, I did some work for a company explaining the core ideas of Kubernetes to non-technical decision-makers. While it's open source, costs are still involved, and people unfamiliar with these systems have difficulty conceptualizing things like containerization and orchestration.

[@timderks5960]

I understand why people get so angry, and it's exactly for the reason you outlined: it's a personal choice. For some people, it's hard to understand that others have other preferences, and in their opinion / for their usecase, only one of the OSes works. For example, for a PC gamer, thinking of MacOS as a viable OS is just not happening. It's easy to forget that others may not play games on their PC, and that MacOS can work fine for their usecase.

[@jayp9158]

@@TacoJolly That sounds great and makes a lot of sense. Good luck with everything!

[@devarni]

I've made the switch... and it's a dream! My Windows PC was as loud as a steam engine, I can't hear the Mac Mini at all. The performance is phenomenal and I really like MacOS... I think I've found my new home and I love it.

[@APNetworX]

I use the rectangle app for window management, works really well, but I agree, it is a bit odd that you have to install a third party app for something that should be integrated into the OS like in Windows.

[@kissdaniel2435]

Thank you, it's awesome app...I finally have a normal window management :)

[@christianlempa]

That's I might check it out :)

[@MyAgOnY]

I second this. Rectangle just work perfect. I work with multiple terminal and i have 0 complains! And its FOSS

[@ScottLahteine]

There is also an add-on called SizeUp to provide window placement keyboard shortcuts, and another called "Stay" to retain your window arrangement when attaching and detaching monitors and changing resolutions. Of course the built-in Spaces for multiple desktop management and split-screens is not all that bad if you only need to have some fullscreen apps and put two apps side-by-side. The new built-in Stage Manager is kind of inflexible, but it's not too bad for helping with screencasting.

[@76williamsbh]

I think I read that Microsoft has some sort of weird patent on this feature that does not allow such a feature to be baked into this OS.

[@markring40]

I started with Apple in the 1980s. Switched to PCs in the 90s, then to Linux in the late 1990s. One year ago I took the plunge and bought and M1 Macbook Pro 16 inch. I love it! As you pointed out the OS is based on BSD / Unix so working in the terminal is very intuitive. There was a bit of a learning curve in finding where everything was located in the desktop environment, but I found lots of great KZbin videos to help me out. I'm looking forward to you creating content for the Apple world.

[@supercellex4D]

no lsblk, BSD is garbage

[@darkPassengerDB]

how was apple's os in 80s?

[@danielperales3958]

My reason to be a huge macos fan it's the way they made a commercial and fully functional out of the box operating system... however i gotta say it's kinda shit in terms of apps, i just say if you are something like a very light markups, LaTeX editor or app dev you gonna love the macs. But, so many stupid and unnecesary features making up to 20 gb of just the OS??? That's why I'm planning switching to linux. Now don't get me started on soldered cpu, the PCIE being blocked and no SD cards!!! They have taken off the most important shit of a pc to create this "slim laptops" which I hope time will just kill for once and for all. Despite all this, I like this m series macs, power efficient as heck, macos it's intuitive once you get it and to me it was faster to my workflow than windows, see macos despite not having a decent window manager, i like the hand gestures and key bindings that make things easier than windows as you don't have to open a menu window lol for anything you need to do. Sometimes less windows it's better, see how vim it's so powerful without having any gui. Also, macos comes with vim XDDDDD (and unix terminal, so win win for me).

[@evancycles]

I guess you were looking for something different. I was a Mac loyalist for a decade, but then I went back to Windows after my Macbook Pro crashed in a meeting and I wanted something different. I don't regret it at all. Windows has been great, stable, and reliable, for all things I do. I still have an iPhone and an iPad, and an Apple Watch. My custom-built PC is my gadget pride and joy. I can make it whatever I want. I put in the time and effort to learn how to build it too. There is a sense of accomplishment with that. My PC has the latest AMD Ryzen and RTX 4080 gpu, which are amazing for gaming and creating stuff. And 4K gaming with NVIDIA DLSS is mind-blowing. Playing games at 4K with relatively high FPS is awesome! 8K video editing not a problem. I also have a solidly built 2022 Legion Pro 7 laptop that is super powerful on the go. I don't care much about Apple Silicon battery life, because generally my laptop exceeds my needs. And I can still get decent battery life on my laptop, enough for across country flight or a long stay at a cafe. And if I want to watch videos or read on a flight or play casual games, I'll pull out the iPad. I also like having a num pad on my laptop for serious data work. MacBooks don't have that. :( Windows OS vs Mac OS, I've used both, and Windows wins for me, in productivity. Windows has better off-the-shelf windows management than Macs, especially in Windows 11. And gaming on a PC is better, 3D work on a PC seems to be a win too. For many, it comes down to personal preference. I know people, many who swear by Mac. But many of those have not touched a PC in for many years. I like both, but I prefer Windows right now. Maybe someday I'll get bored of my Windows machines and get a MacBook Pro....by that time I suspect it will be an M5 Ultra chip...who knows. :) ... But I think it's more likely that I'll consider a Framework laptop. I like what Framework is doing. Framework lets you customize and upgrade many of the components in your laptop. That's better for the planet (maybe) and once again user can build out what they want, change it as your needs change. Anyway, PC technology is getting so good on both camps.

[@haomingli6175]

you seem to like customization of the hardware. then mac might never be for you.

[@moyenaak]

PC is better in my opinion!

[@renantmagalhaes]

Its definitely a user choice in the end. For several years I was a Linux hardcore user; however, now, I would not change my Windows + WSL2 integration(+ all support from my hardware out of the box) for any other system. I tried MacOS for a few months on my company computer(M1 pro, 32 GB RAM). Still, in the end, I asked them to change to a Windows machine, as I could not adapt to how Finder and the shortcuts work - as I'm a heavy shortcut user - I tried several different configurations with Karabiner. Still, it was far from what I could achieve with PowerToys + AHK on Windows. Also, the docker performance on MAC sucked for me. Idk if people know how well integrated and cross-devices windows can be, using OneDrive + Phone Link + MS keyboard on Android(for the shared clipboard), I have a pretty close experience that Apple offers, using two or three different suppliers. In my POV, the comparison is fair as MacOS needs several programs to be usable (on my workflow, like Rectangle and other programs). In the end, what matters is if you are happy and the SO can fulfill your needs :)

[@CaroAbebe]

It’s precisely the shortcuts that work across the entire system, no matter which app you use, which make me love the Mac.

[@kickedoutonthestreets]

WSL is perfect for my needs. It lets me, as a web developer and someone aspiring to edit photos and videos, keep my workspaces distinct on a single device. I can also install multiple Linux distributions to match my deployment needs. If something goes awry (which can happen), reinstalling a distribution is a breeze. Recently I migrated to a new device, a Surface Pro, I couldn't believe how easy it is to copy my dev environments to the new device.

[@ZombieLincoln666]

AHK is a mess though. It’s not easy to use at all

[@modables]

how is it a mess lmao, it's one of the most straightforward macro softwares out there​@@ZombieLincoln666

[@danielperales3958]

@@CaroAbebe The same to me XDDD, and my problem with linux apps. I love that for all mac apps, cmd+, means preferences/settings, you know the simple cmd key shortcuts. This consistency it's the biggest flaw across flatpak, KDE or gnome apps, all of them have different interface and key bindings.

[@PabloPucciOK]

The best configuration for a better experience in MacOs: - System Preferences > Dock > check all checkboxes except the one at the bottom (show recently used apps on the dock) - System Preferences > trackpad > more gestures tab > check the Expose checkbox: Now when you have open various instances of the same app you just do three fingers down and it shows you all the instances of that app only - in Finder files manager : Show route, show status bar

[@shaflic]

Thanks! As someone who switched a few months ago after 25 years of Windows I love every single suggestion you made here.

[@ViorelIanasi]

Dude, NT kernel has nothing to do with MS-DOS! :) Consumer versions of Windows had MS-DOS as an underlying system and it was 16 bit. NT kernel was from start 32 bit. First consumer version of Windows based on NT kernel was Windows XP. Windows 2000 Professional was a little approach from the earlier Windows NT versions, but then they made Windows Me which was also based on Windows 9x with had the MS-DOS system, despite the fact that it was a little buried, the options to restart in MS-DOS mode was deleted.

[@bcullman]

NT Kernel was developed by Dave Cutler, who previously architected VMS. if anything, NT has its roots there.

[@kodemasterx]

I've started using Windows since before I was a teenager, I've also been a System Admin for 5 years now, and I'm honestly ditching Windows on a personal level as well, we know MS was always intrusive but with the advent of Win 11 they completely went overboard with how much data the OS sends out without your permission. Wait till Win 12 comes around powered by their AI, it will give the term "SPYWARE" a whole new meaning...

[@christianlempa]

Don't forget, you can always turn off personal data collection and just go with telemetry!

[@nixxblikka]

You have any examples?

[@brandonw1604]

@@nixxblikka There is a KZbin video of WireShark in Win 11 and all the third party advertisers it reaches out to on a fresh install

[@brandonw1604]

I agree, I have a Win 11 ThinkPad next to me from work, they let me work on whatever I'm the most efficient on (security analyst) so I just use my Mac.

[@kodemasterx]

@@christianlempa I understand your point but at the same time, this is something that the end-user should be made aware of, they need to ask for your permission before the OS starts to reach out to every corner of the Internet.

[@hydrolifetech7911]

Always been a Windows user and I only a couple months ago switched to Macbook because I got into programming and its value for money, exceptional battery life and native terminal app convinced me. Got an iPhone to go with it and the portability aspect improved way more as I now heavily use the Apple Notes app to keep notes which is synced across devices and with the inter-device copy-pasting works great for me. Overall I am very satisfied and I still keep my Windows PC for games and I remote in for some other stuff I can't do on MacOS.

[@unsaturated8482]

same

[@davidhayes1639]

Same as this

[@qwertyzxaszc6323]

It's great to have competition. We can switch back and forth depending on which is the better computer for you at a certain point in time.

[@MarbsMusic]

I left MacOS in the late 90s for Windows (Business/Gaming) and Linux/Solaris for technical work. I used to run MAE (Macintosh Application Environment) on Solaris but it wasn't the best. I kick myself because I didn't try OSX early on. I bought an M1 air when they came out and have move back to MacOS over the past few years. Like you I have many things scripted to run in the background, love having a real terminal etc... It's exactly the OS I so wanted 25 years ago, just sad it took so long for me to give it a chance. Two of my sons, one doing Final Cut work and the other a Comp Sci major have switched except for gaming as well. High hopes for Metal3 and getting Devs to focus on MacOS over the next few years.

[@danielperales3958]

fr let's hope for metal 3, because it still is the worst problem so far with macos

[@MarsorryIckuatuna]

You understand macOS very well. For the specific use case of copying and pasting URL’s with Universal Clipboard - that’s ok, but a better feature for that would be “Continuity” - your devices recognize each other and you can carry on where you leave off between supported apps… (mostly the native apps).

[@mahmood1212]

I did the transition recently, Mac Studio with MacOS took my desktop experience to the next level.

[@christianlempa]

Nice!

[@rdsii64]

I was a mac head for a long time. I eventually built a pc and went back to windows. The cheese grater mac pro was the form factor that met my needs but was so expensive I could only afford a used one. When I finally decided I wanted to work on up to date hardware the only financial was forward was to was to build a PC. I prefer the way MacOs lets me work but I don't do the Hackintosh thing. So once again I'm back on windows.

[@christianlempa]

I totally agree with you, Mac Pro is still too expensive and old. Might change once they switch it over to Apple Silicon as well, we'll see..

[@AZisk]

I was in the exact same boat 🚤

[@christianlempa]

*hug*

[@yerunski]

I use both Windows 10 and on my Macbook Pro of course Mac OS. Like mentioned in the video, both OS'es have their pros and cons. The thing I dislike most about Mac OS is the Finder. To me it feels somewhat restricted compared to Windows Explorer. Also the fact that, from a full screen window, you can't minimize it to the tray with 1 click. First you have to make it smaller and then you can entirely minimize it. But the smoothness of the Mac, the look and feel are awesome compared to Windows. And the Retina screen you easily get used to. So crisp. Great video Christian!

[@christianlempa]

Thank you mate! :) Had some problems with finder too, but as soon as you know the hotkeys, for making hidden files visible, openening tabs or go to location, I got used to it.

[@bdhaliwal24]

The Finder is horrible out of the box, for example if you want to navigate to look at files anywhere other than Downloads or Documents. Another issue with the Finder is if you go to a folder with a whole bunch of images it's a multi-step process to able to go back-and-forth to view series of images, with Windows this works much better and is more intuitive.

[@yerunski]

@@bdhaliwal24 Indeed, browsing though images is a tedious job on Mac OS. You can add the images to an album and them view them one by one easy. Windows is much better by default when it comes to this.

[@MetehanG]

I have recently switched from a Windows machine (it was a very high quality Apple knock-off device) to an M1 MBA and I could not be amazed more. The battery life around 8-10 hours even with tough workflows, the overall build quality of the machine itself, the screen and the speakers they all look and feel premium. The macOS is a really good productivity enhancer with all of its native unix CLIs and really simple and focused window management tools like Scene Manager or Mission Control that I am in love. As a developer I still have really hard dependency on Windows OS because of the dependent software projects developed for Windows and for that purpose I installed Windows for ARM on Parallels desktop which works perfectly fine for my workflows around Windows. It even pops the app windows to MacOS environment so I don't even have to bother with the Windows UI anymore even when I am using these apps (such as Visual Studio or IIS). Long story short, I loved the machine, I loved the OS and I am never ever going back.

[@Teluric2]

Encoding and watching 4k while on M1 max ,I wait to encode prores is not more than 6 hour battery life. Tested on 3 macs encoding my addiction to drones video.

[@blairhickman3614]

I use WIndows 11, an Arch based linux distro, and Mac OS in my home and for work. I find they all have their own strong points. Mac seems to be the easiest and have the most thought out UI of the OSes I am using. The only con for Mac I can think of is games. Looking to trade my Pixel 6 pro and Garmin watch for iPhone and Apple Watch Ultra for the connectivity you highlighted. Thanks for another great video.

[@haiz1985]

if your reason of having garmin is for running, i suggest you stay with it...

[@blairhickman3614]

@@haiz1985 it is for running. (But mostly treadmill. Used with Garmin foot pod.) I love the Garmin but I am the only person in my family on Android at this point and the Apple switch would make my life easier for most things.

[@haiz1985]

@@blairhickman3614 Ah ic. I have both watch and i use garmin purposely for running only and apple watch for the rest.

[@BlackhawkPilot]

Saw my first Mac in 1984 and it was obvious that this was the way computing should be done. Have not looked back since. Have had to use WinTel machines for work but not for my personal computing. Multiple Macs, iPads, iPhones and Apple Watches in my home that just work.

[@lucEast]

I switched to the MacBook Pro 14 about 5 Month ago. I wanted a powerful Notebook for productivity that also has great battery life. And oh boy. Just look at the build quality. I love it!

[@infiniteen]

I just invested in a second hand M1 Mac mini too! I like that it is low powered, and I hope to keep it on for a simple home server.

[@timfarmer317]

I switched from Linux to MacOS about 12 years ago. The look, feel, responsiveness, package management, & OpenBSD foundation offered everything I needed for work and/or entertainment. I'm happy to run Windows in a VM on both platforms but I would rather use MS Power platform software on native WinTel.

[@shadir007]

Use Magnet for MacOS. I’m sure that feature will soon be in macOS soon, but you will love that for window tiling like in windows. It was a game changer for me from that one feature I liked in Windows.

[@christianlempa]

Sounds cool!

[@TravisNewton1]

One of the things I love about macOS is that it's certified UNIX. It's great being able to write and test scripts and programs locally and then know they work with (very minor) tweaks on prod systems. And also, let's be real, the Apple Silicon is also just amazing and magic. I actually found I can use less resources than I need on x86_64. And it's so nice to not have my laptop turn into a space heater. I have to really push the M1 in my system to get it to even warm up slightly.

[@hf2943]

It’s amazing. I’ve had m1 MacBook Pro 13 for 2 years and have heard the fan go on like 3 times and that’s when doing extremely demanding stuff like gaming. Most of the time, even in those situations, the fan is not audible at all and the only difference is you might feel a little bit warm on the top part above the keyboard deck (where nobody touches…). But in almost all situations, it is completely cool and silent. Also regularly 15 hours + battery life. No windows device even comes close

[@LMProductions99]

The reason why modern day Windows lack OS consistency when you dig deep into windows and see that some of it still looks like it came from the early 2000s, is because of businesses. Some corporations that uses Windows don't want Microsoft to update Windows in such a way that completely destroys that corporations personal windows setup. If it were to change it could cause those businesses Windows systems to stop functioning properly. Then they would have to get their tech people to reconfigure their systems to work properly with Windows new settings. That could take a lot of time and money to do. There's still a lot of businesses that still run Windows XP and other older Windows softwares. That's why the basic settings are updated and redesigned to fit the modern look, but the power users and admin settings are kept the same. To please all the businesses that run old windows software. Apple doesn't have that issue, so they can just redesign their OS from the ground up and make it completely consistent throughout the OS.

[@haus_automation]

Moved to MacOS 13+ years ago. I have to use Windows several times a month - which is always a pain.

[@gsparkman]

I began using a Mac in 1985. Believe me, Apple hadn't achieved a "hip" status at that time. I bought it because of its support built into the OS for Postscript. As a creative in an Ad agency, I saw the promise right away for technical drawing and typography-which it delivered on in the mid-80s. It took MS another 13 years to deliver a decent GUI based desktop with Windows 98. By that time the Mac was still way ahead in color management and sound. So, in my profession, I was already way entrenched in the Apple universe by the time Window's could reasonably compete in the creative process. I own and operate Windows machines as well, but not for my daily driver. I love the performance of the new Apple Silicon machines. My MacBook Pro M1 is still a beast and super-snappy.

[@sylviam6535]

I would argue that the first good desktop OS out of Microsoft was actually Windows 7.

[@gsparkman]

@@sylviam6535 I was being kind.

[@sungmin556]

I have a question, if this is true why did people use windows not mac in the first place thogug? Windows dominated market for some time

[@gsparkman]

@@sungmin556 The answer boils down to three letters: IBM. During the birth of personal computers the most dominant company for business computing was IBM. The saying at the time was, "No one ever got fired for buying IBM." In 1980 IBM decided to get into personal computer business. They hired a small group of software developers headed by a Harvard dropout named: Bill Gates. MS-DOS was created for the IBM PC. Bill Gates made a brilliant business contract with IBM by not selling MS-DOS to IBM, but by licensing its use. By retaining ownership of the OS, Microsoft was able to license it to all the IBM clone manufacturers that soon followed. IBM took the "personal" out of PC and blessed it with "business" status, so that is what businesses bought, because "no one ever got fired....etc. After that, what did all those office workers buy for home? An IBM PC clone of course-the same type of computer that they used at work. That PC architecture, with Intel processors and MS-DOS (later Windows) became a hegemony that put almost every other type of PC company out of business. Apple also almost went bankrupt in the 1990's, but the Macintosh survived (barely), because it was actually a better computer for several industries. This enable Apple to ascend in the 2000s with the addition of the iPod, iPhone, iPad and now their new Apple Silicon based computers that have dumped Intel/AMD type processors.

[@YokoOHHNoo]

As a developer using Win/Linux so far I'm pretty interested in Mac especially the new ARM ones. I like the part of having a NIX'ish experience on very low power consumption with still high performance. But alas in my opinion it's still too expensive. I need quite often a lot of RAM running containers or even k8s locally etc. and the price steps from 8gb to 16gb or even 32gb are really bad. Even worse you can't upgrade memory yourself in contrast to Win/Linux hardware (commonly)... So yeah Apple is quite appealing if money does not matter or the company pays but if you need to look for value/price I'd stick with Linux or Windows...Maybe in future I can get a Mac from my employer but switching to the whole Apple Eco system (iPhone, iWatch... still has big price tag...)

[@sylviam6535]

The upgrades from Apple (the RAM in particular) are way overpriced.

[@oxonomy2372]

OpenCore

[@YokoOHHNoo]

@@oxonomy2372 And this will get me a M1/M2 in a long running small notebook for half the apple price? :D It's not just Mac OS I'm interested in, it's more about the hardware.

[@76williamsbh]

Alot of people see Macs as overpriced but when you add up the durability of the hardware, how long a Mac can last, the amount of free built in software, and the complete lack pf bloatware a Mac can be a solid longterm investment depending on your computer needs.

[@stephanemignot100]

I was still using a 2008 iMac 6 months ago, I pushed it a bit ^

[@SMGJohn]

Thats funny because I do computer repairs and Mac are the one thing we get most of and most of them go in the trash because its so difficult and expensive to repair them, Macbook Air have tendency to crack the entire screen because its so fragile around the sides. To replace a screen like that costs 250+ euros, thats too much for most people when the machine only cost them 800 euros brand new, they just go and buy a PC afterwards. A PC replacement of a similar calibre screen costs us only 120 euros, why such difference? Because Apple decided to glue the screen assembly together, its not even worth the man hours to separate it it would cost just as much as just buying the entire screen assembly from Apple repair centre. And usually for price of a Mac, you can get much better spec PC with serviceable memory, storage and good replacement parts that do not break bank, and while Mac have really good screens and very good speaker systems, PC has caught up like 8 years ago I mean there many good PC laptops and All-in-one systems out there.

[@vladradu9966]

Generally Macs are way too expensive when compared to PCs with the same computing power. The only plus for them is better batter life and that is the reason I've bought a Macbook Pro: to watch movies and browse the net without charging too often. To add insults to the injury, Mac are hard to repair. Repairs are either very expensive or impossible.

[@The-Cat]

I can hear Thinkpads laughing at your repairability 😹

[@famousmwofficial8046]

Texting on my 2010 mbp running sonoma

[@synthoelectro]

Recently moved to mac mini m1 for my music production needs. For years I used windows alone for this but I needed stability and mac gave that to me. It isn't without its challenges but I'll get around it.

[@djcmike]

Been on a mac since 2004. Am quite happy with it. Works perfectly with my job as a sysadmin at an ISP.

[@nobodynemoq]

That's exactly what I have: while being a linux fan, I was always struggling with Windows on laptops since there was always something wrong with linux on laptop that stopped me from switching. When I finally switched to MacOS, it was a giant relief; finally, I had linux on my servers and linux-like system on my laptop, but working perfectly 😎

[@christianlempa]

Nice! Same experience like me :D

[@cheebadigga4092]

Have a look at the Nix package manager. It's basically the foundation of NixOS but it works almost everywhere else too. Not sure if it works on M1 but I would give it a shot since Linux has many ARM64 packages which should work in theory. The difference to Homebrew is that Homebrew uses official prebuilt Mac versions or provides their own prebuilt packages using the Xcode build tools while Nix just installs plain Linux packages in its own environment. Kinda like Docker but without the overhead of a separate runtime and a full-blown Linux environment, but with the advantage of versioning (like Git).

[@christianlempa]

Hm I'm not sure why this should be an advantage over homebrew, you can tell me more please?

[@cheebadigga4092]

@@christianlempa well the advantage is you're running Linux packages on macOS. All packages which are available for NixOS are also available on macOS. So a lot more packages + a faster package manager overall.

[@christianlempa]

@@cheebadigga4092 hmm I will check it out mate! Thank you

[@cheebadigga4092]

@@christianlempa You're welcome :) I'm not quite sure if it's gonna work on M1 chips, but x86_64 did work.

[@techtipsuk]

Got both but never use my PC. One thing I really enjoy about MacOS is the third party apps. Simply superb.

[@alanjrobertson]

I really like the M1 and M2 chips but really wasn't a fan of Mac OS when I've used it previously - granted hasn't been for a couple of years but it doesn't look like it's changed much. The deep terminal integration looks great but I found the window management incredibly annoying - I'm probably just too used to how I do things in Windows 😂 I'm also not a fan of iOS, I had an iPod Touch years ago and again the interface doesn't look vastly different now, I find stock Android works better for me. Good video though, really interesting to hear your thoughts.

[@auralplex]

I have both. Apple is better at everything.

[@prima6170]

@@auralplex No it isn't. There's a plethora of stuff that Windows does better than Apple. (For a lot less money, I might add).

[@colt5189]

One thing I hate on the iPhone is the notch. I don't know if I ever could get used to using a Macbook with a dumb notch. I'd instead have preferred a wider bezel. Or maybe the entire top strip area, let the top 1/4" of the screen be black to cover up the notch area, you could have the menu and clock in the blackened out area so you aren't wasting space there.

[@tbirdparis]

On any MacBook with a notch, you can entirely make it disappear in exactly the way you said you would prefer, using either the built-in system settings or a 3rd party app.

[@NeilMendham]

Welcome to aesthetically pleasing computing that “just works”

[@christianlempa]

Thx :D

[@Teluric2]

Yeh " nobody" has issues😂

[@NeilMendham]

@@Teluric2 Only people that shouldn't be using Mac's in the first place really :)

[@szigyartom]

I am using a Macbook pro 2 years now, the operating system fails miserably, I have many issues. If I started over, I would just go and install Windows on it.

[@Borgin_Hood]

I can't imagine not having a Windows device somewhere in my home but I use Apple products for all my daily needs. When I first started getting into Linux everything reminded me about MacOS in a good way so the transition was easy. I think in some ways the homelab community is sleeping on MacOS!

[@bastianwegge]

There are still some things that can be mentioned in terms of OSX maturity like signing documents inside of the Preview-App, arranging PDF-Pages directly inside of the Preview-App or apps like Alfred, Raycast, Fig or SkriptKit. With OSX picking up a lot of developers (like you) the toolset will be expanded a lot more.

[@christianlempa]

Hmm maybe there will be something about Raycast in the future, I'll check out the other Apps you have mentioned as well ;)

[@sylviam6535]

It’s macOS now. It has been for quite a while now.

[@KalpeshPatel78]

Preview app is one of the best ones. You can technically do anything. Even do cutout s of some images that have a high contrast. Shift + Command + K on some images with high contrast or white background. It saves the image as a PNG for you

[@voldllc9621]

My first programming language was Lisp in 1968 and since then I have been implementing engineering and scientific numerical and real time algorithms, mainly using flavors of FORTRAN, C/C++ and Matjab. I got my hands on a Mac in 1984, and disliked it intensively since the GUI was obtuse and made it impossible for me to use the intuition and experience that I had developed over many years as an assembler and systems programmer. This changed when the MacOS was switched to a superstructure built on Berkeley Unix, since I could now switch to the familiar command line when the GUI attempted to outguess me. Since then I have used the Mac as my command center and remoted into the other operating system when required for my work. I am addicted to Visual Studio which does not run under all its glory on MacOS. Visual Studio Code which runs anywhere is nice, but it’s not an IDE. Finally, Windows these days is deluging me with advertising and takes me down into commercial rabbit holes if I am not careful in short circuiting the sneaky Microsoft default settings. The Mac comes without the torrents of bloatware that Windows is foisting upon us.

[@kevin_mitchell]

I bought my first iMac in 2009 and loved it. I bought a new one in 2017. In fact the 2009 version is still going strong and I'm using it right now.

[@DamienWhite]

A big one for me with Windows, there's so many ads and services subscription nagging, I usually turn off a load of stuff on a clean installation of Windows 11, yet still manage to find the odd "try office 365" ad somewhere, on MacOS subscriptions only get pushed if I open say, Apple Music or Apple TV, it's not on my lock screen, there's no notification asking for Safari to be my default browser, my settings app isn't telling me my files are at risk because I'm not using One Drive. Currently, I'm Windows for gaming/some work, MacOS for literally everything else.

[@waXsurf]

The NT Kernel is NOT based on MS-DOS. Thats wrong! It was written from the ground up by Dave Cutler and his Team 😉

[@russ254]

this!

[@Sismodium]

I'm considering enrolling myself into coding school, and given the recommended spec from my (probable) school a macOS laptop is looking pretty attractive - for the first time in my 30+years of computing I might be becoming an apple owner!

[@anthonydhan]

Please do a video on how you are handling Docker container images compiled on your Apple silicon Mac for deployment onto cloud virtual machines still based on x86.

[@stsoul12]

Congrats, welcome to the club!

[@NK-iw6rq]

Ive been a windows guy my whole life and about 3 years ago switched over to a MacBook Pro 2019 with the Intel chip. I have to say I am genuinely satisfied with the Mac OS experience . The user interface is clean and intuitive and I just love the little things like mission control and hot corners. Everything works and I have experience no slowdowns in the 3 years ive been using it. I look forward to getting a MacBook with Apples very own M series chip in the coming years.

[@Teluric2]

4 users I know they claim they have no slowdown on their macs I found out they re liars because i asked their kids and repair techniciians. If macs dont get slow why there are so many tutorials how to fix slow macs?

[@NK-iw6rq]

@@Teluric2 I guess it varies from case to case. But i commonly have several different processes running (I work in cyber security) and have yet to experience any significant slowdown. The laptop works just as good as it did when I first got it in 2020 and my one has the intel chip. The new Macs come with Apples very own M chip and they are leagues better than the intel ones. Trust me man, I come from Windows and was never on the Apple bandwagon, but I have to say this MacBook has absolutely won me over. Im going to wait for the M3 chip coming out in a year and a half to upgrade, and by then this laptop will have 4 and half years of use.

[@colt5189]

One reason I don't think I could ever use a Macbook full time is because there are a bunch of small indy programs I use from time to time that I don't think are available on MacOS. There may be something similar I could find, but I think these indy type programs are generally Windows only. Also, I've read there aren't as many free programs on MacOS compared to all the free programs for Windows you can find all over the web. Also, I've bought programs over the years that I still use from time to time that I don't think the license is also for MacOS. As I don't like subscriptions that I'm sure there are a lot of on MacOS as apparently I've read developers think everyone who uses a Mac is rich.

[@Me-eb3wv]

Yup. Windows is a work truck while macOS is more of a BMW 5 series

[@KILLERTX95]

I work as a Linux systems admin/devops engineer. We have 6 people in the team, and all of us run Linux at work, and mac at home 😂.

[@ernestoditerribile]

The same goes for me. Running servers, virtualization, docker containers in Linux, But I do remote into them on my MacBook. We have many workers on MacOS and Windows at the business. So I also do troubleshooting on Windows for them, or sometimes tell Mac users that things can be done differently/easier/more effective.

[@christianlempa]

Lol :D

[@colt5189]

One thing about MacOS I didn't like was the "x" close out button was in the upper left of the window compared to upper right in Windows. Everything just felt backwards, especially with the clock and things being in the upper right of the screen instead of the lower right of the screen as in Windows. Though I'll always be PC, I do plan to buy a used M1 Macbook at some point to play around with. Probably when the new Macbooks get released and people start dumping their old ones.

[@CharlieMartorelli]

I also run a second Mac mini as a home server/nas not many do this but it works well with our hose full of Macs and is very energy efficient. I have spinning disk hooked up to it via thunderbolt. I also run a few Ubuntu vm with pi hole and vpn servers. as well as cloud backs and Time Machine for the laptops.

[@OliverBusse]

Seeing you using Ventura, try hovering over the green button in the window pane and check out the pinning options. I switched to macOS 7 years ago and didn't regret it. Using it daily as my work OS, I got a company MBP16" Intel which is ok now. Bought myself a M1Pro 14" last year - this is a beast. I though have to use Windows daily due to being a HCL Notes/Domino dev and admin. Windows 10/11 runs perfectly in Parallels and also Windows 11 ARM on the M1 Pro - incl. all the HCL programs I need (32, 64 bit). A Mac means less maintenance and cumbersome updates, it just works. The integrations and the eco system (air drop, hand-off, iCloud sync etc.) is the cherry on top of the cake.

[@pluto202]

Hi Christian, I'm on a Mac since years and working with M365 and Azure and would be happy to see some content about it. Just learned that Copy & Paste is working between devices 🙂I'm in general happy but also don't understand why they are not implementing basic stuff like the desktop management. Regards Andreas

[@OliverBusse]

It may work from the start, but on some macOS systems it has to be enabled - this is called "hand-off"

[@84Actionjack]

Had a Hakinstosh, now have a used M1 mini rarely used. Learning Linux but have lots of Windows and Windows Server machines. I have to see just how far the Mac will take me but I doubt I'll embrace the whole Apple ecosystem despite its obvious advantages.

[@JAFOpty]

I like macOS but I am having issues with SMB shares with large number of files (5,000+). It takes a long time to load and display the files on Finder. On Windows is instant.

[@Sebyllis7350k]

Nothing weird on my end. My M1 Max MacBook Pro paired with 10 GbE NIC works flawlessly with TrueNAS SCALE, no matter how many files there are in one folder. For my limited understanding, I would say the situation is because your NAS is built on spinning disk and it physically takes some time to read the file, and Windows has a cache mechanism to store all the file names, and macOS doesn't? If the NAS is built with proper SSD cache this shouldn't be a problem, and your overall exp would be much better no matter it's on Windows or macOS.

[@JAFOpty]

@@Sebyllis7350k yeah, there is something like that going on. Even my Android phone loads the directories over wifi5 in less than a second. I have over 40TB of data, so SSD is out of my budget at the time. I just use MS File Explorer or SSH into the server if I need to work on those directories.

[@podroznik2214]

In MacOS Alt-Tab or rather Command-Tab switches between app not windows like on Windows or Linux. Icons on top bar cannot be hidden out of the box too

[@binarytech8457]

I've switched from Windows to MacOS when M1 was introduced and I both love and hate it. Imo Windows is superior when it comes to Window and file management. Screen scaling is also much better in Windows. It's also more stable. My Mac mini m1 crashed on the first day after first reboot :D I often experience a couple of strange problems after system update. I love Mac mostly for integration with my other Apple devices and very efficient, minimalistic and silent system. Anyway I'm kind of happy with My choice and I don't have plans to switch back to Windows.

[@ZombieLincoln666]

Windows file explorer is terrible

[@thefrisianclause]

Hey Christian! What is your experience with external displays with the Mac Mini/ Macbook Air? I currently have a Macbook Pro M1, connected to 2 external 1440p displays but these seem to be very blurried.. :( This makes me go back to Linux everytime.

[@christianlempa]

I have 2x 4k Monitors from Samsung, they work great, but it's a bit weird how to set them up correctly. I ended up connecting them over USB-C and that seems to work good on my Mac M2 Pro. On the M2, I needed to add a docking station to support 2x external Monitors ,that's unfortunately just a half-baked workaround. It works but... it's not native support of the monitors.

[@Garstonk]

Have you tried Better Display or Switch Res X? They will solve the blurriness. Of course no such issue with 1440p displays using Windows!

[@bobpage6597]

One thing that I DO find a little irritating - using my Macbook on a docking station. While I can use the speakers on my external monitor with no issue, you cannot control the volume through your Mac thereafter because the feature 'Consumer Electronics Control'' has been completely disabled/removed by Apple. If I want to ensure I can adjust audio nice and easy, I have to use my Macbook speakers instead when using an external monitor. This is a minor thing Windows and even Linux does flawlessly.

[@DrAnimePhD]

Hey you got the Satechi Mac Mini hub! Nice touch. Is it the SSD enclosure model or just a regular hub?

[@christianlempa]

It's the one with NVME slot

[@johnduffill]

I have made and set up a hybrid setup where i have a windows desktop and then run a 16” MacBook Pro M1 Pro. Ipad , all works seamlessly once i got a virtual machine running on my windows machine and using TrueNAS scale as a NAS and sync thing to then sync all. Works perfectly. So if you are wondering try it out like that before committing fully. You will be happy

[@sergiusalex]

Magnet is also an app that basically acts like the windows drag to the edge of screen.

[@christianlempa]

Thanks, I'll try it out!

[@nathanchapel5950]

Thinking about switching but how did you get over the Finder navigation. It seems much harder than file explorer and how did you get used to the keyboard shortcuts? That command button is in the wrong place. Lol

[@christianlempa]

You just need time to get used to it, once you only work with MacOS, Windows becomes uncomfortable :D

[@pavelperina7629]

Pro tip: do NOT use POWERLINE on WSL machines. I ended with some git files locked on Windows which is "fun" when you switch branch, it patches local files and fails to actually change the branch so you see many files as uncommited changes. Even more "fun" is that files are locked as long as WSL is running which is until you explicitly terminate it (wsl --shutdown)

[@Andre-vn1sb]

I switched my private Desktop Windows-PC for surfing/youtube/watching movies to M2 MacBook Air, 16GB. This switch was easy, and Apple hardware is far "BEST" i ever had. MacOS with this unix based system is great: very smooth. I dont miss anything from windows. But - in some cases like filemanagement windows seems to be much easier to interact with than macos on laptop. This dozen command/option/shift click options are mostly none intuitive, and relay complicate to remember when you could use them.

[@carlosrc7845]

Its -as in life - a neverending battle between the easy route and freedom. I personally would never jump on mac just because of his way of locking you down. I honestly prefer a "miserable" but free life! :D

[@christianlempa]

Totally fine mate ;)

[@pramarko]

Exactly my experience from about 10 years ago, with the exception of Apple silicon ... I still have a Windows PC, but only for gaming :D

[@christianlempa]

Nice! :D

[@keyboard_g]

NT Kernel does not have its roots in MS Dos. If anything it has its roots in VMS from DEC as it was lead by the same guy, Dave Cutler. NT is definitely not DOS and was written specifically to not be DOS as NT stands for "New Technology". But yes, MacOS is much nicer to work with, given its roots are BSD Unix.

[@thebuddercweeper]

I switched to macOS from Windows 10 about 5 years ago and I've had 3 Macs since then. I really do love Linux, for various reasons, but it's missing a lot of the things that are really useful about macOS, and while Windows has got a lot better since I switched away from it, I do still actually dislike using it.

[@dedpossum66]

Compelling case to change! I upgraded from windows with wsl2 to Ubuntu (on my laptop), and I have to say the experience is a lot nicer than working with wsl2 (though basically I was using almost exclusively wsl2). For instance my power usage is better, there is less compute 'overhead', and the tools I like to use still work (and in many cases work better). Further you can add powershell to linux in most cases which is great if you must use azure.

[@rlwoodlief]

I started back when a teletype was the was to communicate with mainframes. Today, I run Windows 10, (NEVER 11), MacOS, LinuxMint, iPadOS and watchOS. The only reason I still have Windows 10 is a handful of programs will only run under Windows.

[@indylawi5021]

Thanks for sharing. I am also a big fan of Apple M1 on my MacBook Pro. just curious about your experience with Docker on M1 MacOs. this is an area to the best of my knowledge is still not natively supported on M1.

[@bdawgsohawt]

Almost all popular apps are now natively supported on apple silicon

[@pismodude2]

I use both at the same time. IMO you can't beat a MacBook with any Windows laptop, but you also can't beat a Windows desktop with any Mac desktop. For example if you want to develop games and play high-end VR content, making that work on a Mac desktop is basically impossible (especially with Apple Silicon). But at the same time I have never enjoyed the trackpad on any laptop except a MacBook, and despite the Apple Silicon being crazy powerful, the fan almost never spins up so the battery lasts all day, don't even need to bring a charger any more, and MagSafe is back which is one of the best features to ever exist on a laptop. I can't imagine trying to survive with a Windows laptop again.

[@pismodude2]

Not to mention you can use Parsec to remote to your home desktop from the MacBook, for gaming/development purposes. Best of both worlds!

[@patrickcallahan2210]

Automatic window snapping like windows is called magnet and works quite well :)

[@darthkielbasa]

The MacOS UI is what sold me and the cli is what keeps me. Homebrew is pretty awesome. Also, seamless integration with iOS is a huge plus for me and my workflow.

[@christianlempa]

Couldn't agree more!

[@max1cp]

Totally agree! I love the slow and sluggish MacOS UI and 30 min+ updates. And even better BSD CLI in which most UNIX things don't work as expected is incredible. Love Macs!

[@darthkielbasa]

@@max1cp pebcak, bro.

[@max1cp]

@@darthkielbasa Ah, well that explains it! Thank you for letting me know that you can't figure out how to use a real computer.

[@RicoRojas]

Hey Christian, I've been love'n your channel lately & I agree with almost everything you said in this video. One thing I would like to tell you about is the BetterDisplay app. I think this app could fix the one issue you found with the display settings built into MacOS (It sure did for me). One of my favorite features (now that I finally figured out how to use it) is the ability to create dummy screens. I have created a (1600x900) dummy screen that I use to play full screen KZbin videos in a window on a vertical 1440x2560 dell screen so it's like having picture in picture for my watching. It also fixes the goofy slide bars of how big you want text as a way to choose screen size.

[@baba7415963]

What exactly are the specs of your macbook air? Did you upgrade the ram and/or ssd? Dont know whether i should upgrade ram

[@christianlempa]

I have the best CPU config and 16GB memory with 512GB storage, it's a good config in my opinion

[@baba7415963]

@@christianlempa decided to go with apple refurbished macbook pro 14in from 2021, didnt need any upgrading of anything :D

[@area51xi]

Drag a file from the GUI to the terminal app.... copies the file path into the app.

[@gordonb1737]

I appreciate this video. I've always been an Android, Windows and Linux user and have always shunned Apple due to their closed echo system. However, I recently bought an I-pad mini-6, mostly due to its size and build quality. There aren't really any high-quality Android tablets of that size. I have fallen in love with it and am now researching Macs, which is how I stumbled on this video and am now subscribing. The more of these Apple videos I watch, the closer I am to going all in with Apple. I do have a question. With Linux and Windows, when I plug my android phone into them via usb, my Android becomes part of the file structure on the computer, which is nice. Is it the same when you plug your I-Phone into your Mac?

[@MatrixMaverick1980]

You would be sandboxed within the file app.

[@zakhounet]

Hi Christian, First of all thanks for your great video. Following some of your recommendations I am using Proxmox and a mac mini to manage my HomeLab ;) I have one question as you are using both Proxmox and Mac Os, which client are you using to get connected to your Proxmox VM ? As SPice is not supported on Mac Arm and VNC is so slow ...

[@christianlempa]

Thank you so much! :) I didn't run into this problem - yet. I'm mostly accessing my Linux machines over SSH only, and Windows machines over RDP. When I use Proxmox web UI, it just works on my Mac just like it did on Win.

[@tristanrenaud947]

Personal use I am MacOS since 2018 for my daily driver with Linux VM’s on Proxmox for my backend homelab stuff For my 40+ hour work week I am at an MSP that uses Windows So as someone that uses Windows, MacOS, and Linux every single day, I LOVE MacOS and really dislike the direction windows is going

[@christianlempa]

To be fair, I like some new ideas and directions where Microsoft is going, other... I don't. But that's true for almost any OS, to be it was really the better "day-to-day workflow" I have on macOS, that convinced me :)

[@PoipoleMujigae]

DAWs and synths are the only things holding me back from fully ditching either Windows or Mac for Linux.

[@mbvx7]

I love MacOS. Love how seamless iCloud integrates everything, but I still also Love Windows 11. I get why people switch to mac and fall in love. Such a great OS. I am waiting on the M2 Studio. I need a new Mac.

[@johto]

Welcome to the right side ! I got my first taste of MacOS via hackintosh all the way back in 2004 (the first ones), then bought my first iMac around around Windows Vista (2007) times for my personal use. Sure, I still use Linux and Windows for work environments, but man, is it nice to come back to MacOS after work for personal use, imho it combines the best of the both worlds, the under the hood *nix stuff and the commercial desktop quality.

[@madeyeQ]

I am considering getting a mac. Either a macbook pro or a mac mini. Not decided yet. What I need is to be able to run my adobe suite, as I use that professionally. If I could do that on Linux, then I wouldn't have to think about a move. But Windows has just become a hassle to work with now that MS is ruining everything. So do you have any experience with adobe illustrator and photoshop on Mac OS? Is it stable? (I saw some videos suggesting it crashes alot). For my games I will probably never be able to move away from Windows. A gaming console just don't work for me. Btw. I have been using both Windows and Linux since the 90's, so I am not scared of anything new, just hating all the "ads" and "here is something new" messages that are littered all over the place. (yes I also hate them on web pages) The only exposure I have had to Apple have been iPhones and iPads until now.

[@govindreddy99]

i agree your most points. I just switched to mac mini m2 and just enjyoing it and exploring mac os.

[@christianlempa]

Nice!

[@branmuller]

I also really enjoy MacOS but still like Windows too. I have ditched both for PopOS though and not looking back on that

[@KubernetesEnjoyer]

can you share what addons at what not you using with your terminal CLI? Colors looks cool, but I see that you use some kubernetes things too? I personally like to have iterm2 with ohmyzsh, k9s, kubectx, kubens is quite known ones, kube-ps1, fzf is nice to have also.

[@dakotaburns7551]

I switched to MacOS in 2006 and haven’t looked back. I concur re: terminal usage and the ecosystem that is: MacOS, iPhone, Watch, iPad, AppleTV, and speakers - they all work with each other very well!

[@retrovox]

That's how Apple entraps and enslaves you.

[@Razumasu]

I would love to see a video from you on how to configure and customize Mac terminals ;-) Like the videos, you've done for Windows.

[@christianlempa]

I recently made a video about what I'm currently using, maybe that helps you! But I'll do some more in the future about new features :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJfKmIdrmtN5atE

[@entelin]

There's basically 3 things I need. I do a lot of windows & linux sysadmin, some development, and gaming. For gaming you need either windows or steam/proton/wine on linux. So the vast majority of the time I'm just using linux (fedora) and window managers can be a much more efficient workflow than you can get on mac or windows. Most of the time my desktop has a browser on the left monitor, and auto tiled terminals on the other two. I basically never manually move windows anywhere. The rest of the time I need windows, either for the surprisingly few times games I'm interested in don't run on linux, or to test windows things for my consulting business.

[@colt5189]

I couldn't use a Macbook because I need a page up/down on the right side of the keyboard. As I use those keys to scroll up/down webpages. As it's a lot easier doing that than with the trackpad and drag the slider up and down. Regarding those with arthritis.

[@kharakim]

Much appreciate hearing your experience and needs as a power user vis-à-vis the Mac and Win operating systems.As a non-power user, I was exclusively using Windows through its first few iterations 95, 98, etc.) but moved over to Mac when I learned about Parallels Desktop. With the advent of the M series Macs, Parallels finally runs my text-based apps seamlessly and with no apparent loss of speed. So I have the benefit of both systems, which I need because some of my most important database foreign-language apps only run on Windows. As to comparing the look and feel of the two systems, I regard Mac as elegant and Win as a kluge. One final point as a non-power user: Mac support is world-class-best, Windows is horrible, Of course, the most important reason is that Mac makes both the OS and the hardware, while Microsoft and the hardware manufacturers can and often do point to each other as the cause of whatever your problem might be. Finally, as one who has been deep in the Apple eco-system for years, I've discovered that long after my official warranty dates have passed, Apple phone support has nonetheless continued and been terrific.

[@lucEast]

8:17 I use "Rectangle" and I love it!

[@christianlempa]

Nice! Going to check that out

[@JimWattsHereNow]

Yep went to Mac over the last 6 months, for very similar reasons as yourself. Very happy.

[@christianlempa]

Nice :) welcome to the apple fanboys :P

[@Asmr_kungfu]

Yes, but does it run games well?

[@angelopetrelli1083]

Cheers mate for the good video & welcome on board in the 🍏System. Your other videos will I in the nearest future, but for this video 👍⭐👍⭐👍⭐👍⭐👍⭐👍⭐👍⭐

[@DynamicWilliam]

5:47 I see Obsidian there, love it 👍✌️