Christians & Magic | What Does the Bible Say?

[@jonathankelly2655]

The "sin" of magic is that either you're making an idol out of yourself or idol of principalities. The difference between prayer and magical incantations is who you believe the Source is. If you believe it is Zeus interceding for you or egoic you changing "fate," you are in sin. If you have faith in God in You interceding on your behalf, than that is the Biblical magic of prayer.

[@raiden5855]

As someone who’s a Christian and is writing a story based off the super natural, I completely agree with your point of view. It really all depends on how the magic is used in the story for me. If it’s realistic and or used in an evil practice, then I would feel uncomfortable reading or watching whatever the entertainment is portraying. But if it’s not realistic and doesn’t portray anything that’s too dark, then I’ll find myself okay reading it. I think Magic is 2 sides of the same coin for what people intent to use it for in terms of literature, movies, cartoons, and anime. So I’m quite neutral with it, but can never see myself actually practice such acts irl. Because Ik that will be a great sin to the Lord

[@OceanaGottaReadEmAll]

I respect you for this video, and wondering about the rights and wrongs of fantasy reading. I have my own personal boundaries for content in books. Some content I think is subjective to the person and what they feel Holy Spirit telling them about it. I also think that there are some clearly objective content that no one should read, Christian or not. Personally, I rely on my gut and Jesus to steer me away from books with content that would be harmful to read. I do think we need to be careful, but also God protects us from so much we never know about and we don't have to worry about him holding our reading against us.

[@greenergrass4060]

I can appreciate Magic in a sense that it makes a great literary tool to explore fanciful scenarios and worlds: that would be impossible in real life. Im more interested in the story magic can bring, than actual magic itself But witchcraft is something that i would never endorse nor practice irl

[@greenergrass4060]

In my story there are people called "The Gifted". People born with powers from a divine origin. And there are also "Witches". Ordinary people who through rituals and possesion, gain a perverted version of the Gifted abilities. Their magic required sacrifice as "fuel" (gifteds and witches are unique from each other, and arent a goodwitch vs. badwitch dichotomy) Obv, they are the villains

[@BotziLux]

This is not the "magic" it's your imagination mystery and fantasy.. God don't allow magic in Heaven,think about this!

[@reflexionesdelabiblia6711]

Satan comes as an angel of light. It’s hard to let go of things we have grown attached to. But God says “come out of her My people” and tells us to be separate and not of this world.

[@greenergrass4060]

Biblical advice, but How does this relate to the topic

[@Celestria]

To be completely honest, this is something I, at times, struggle with. Some books with magical elements don't bother me at all, while others do. For me it's kind of like you said, a book by book, or movie by movie basis that I decide. But it's something I'm still figuring out because I'm just not sure. I really appreciate all the Bible studying you did to try and get an answer on this though! ❤️

[@freeindeed7720]

Read Romans 14. Here's a bit : "2 One person’s faith allows them to eat anything, but another, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. 3 The one who eats everything must not treat with contempt the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted them." What effects one person may not effect another. for ex. romance novels. One may start lusting at the wrong things and looking at their spouse with unrealistic comparisons; or another may just like the light happy ending type stories. The first one should probably stop reading those, whereas the other would be fine. Same with magic. If one's tempted with new agey type beliefs and wanting unGodly magical powers ect, then one might be better to avoid such stories. If however, one just likes the adventure of it all and doesn't really take it seriously, then they'd be fine. Or if one finds it distasteful, like broccoli, then spit it out and avoid the like, but try not to judge others for liking broccoli :) As far as the authors go, verse 20 says "Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall." That's pretty strong. However, I can't imagine anyone leaving the faith because they read Lord of the Rings. I find that the tone of such books is usually quite different in those written by Christians to those written by nonChristians. (If you ever find this to not be the case, get rid of that book and pray for the author). Happy reading, and God bless you🧡📚🙏🧡 (Man! That was a lot of food analogies)

[@lovelydaywithholly]

Thank you for taking the time to reply, and I agree with what you’ve discerned from the Bible! 🧡

[@greenergrass4060]

A Solid, Biblical Response! To be honest, im more interested in the story than the use of magic in itself. Magic is just a great literary tool to explore scenarios that would be impossible to do in real life.

[@reflexionesdelabiblia6711]

That passage is about vegetarianism and meat.

[@spiffygonzales5899]

Fun fact: J. R. R. Tolkien was actually a Christian and LotR is heavily based on his religion as well as his own beliefs and experiences. Like the famous line "you shall not pass" comes from when Tolkien was in the battle of the Somme. There were soldiers on that front who's slogan was "they shall not pass". Also the themes of lore of the rings. Temptation, corruption, the war between higher beings because one of them wanted things to be his way and many other higher beings joining him, the constant battle of good and evil, strong men and women faltering and struggling with the temptation of evil, and sometimes falling, and the ultimate triumph over light and dark. It's all very based on his faith in the Lord.

[@somerandom3969]

@@reflexionesdelabiblia6711 no that was the example Paul used it wasn’t just about meat. In fact the example given was about meat sacrificed to idols and how it was ok to eat it as those gods werent even real

[@dgh5223]

Acts 19:19 is a good verse about how they burned their curious arts books which is like magic books.

[@lxury5757]

For me i believe on magic. I mean 65% of land is still unexplored! And 5% of the ocean is explored. And the garden of eden. Maybe just maybe the garden of eden is where there is different kinds of species of humanlike creatures or people with magic. And beasts lives … but only us normal human beings cant enter. Idk its just my fantasy as a kid. Who knows? Theres still many discoveries yet to know.

[@steezymarlon1384]

true! there are lands beyond our imagination

[@ChantelReadsAllDay]

I have thought about this a lot in the last few years, especially as my kids are reading more and more. I grew up in a home where I remember my dad going through and getting rid of any book with the word magic in them - including my favorite; Rainy Day Magic. I don't know how they would have felt about me reading fantasy and/or Harry Potter because it was not something I was interested in so it never came up. Now, as an adult I am quite enjoying the fantasy genre and it's nearly impossible to have fantasy without some sort of magical element. I think the idea of magic is our poor human way of trying to put into words the unexplainable. Many fantasy books I've read, whether they are Christian or not, surprise me at how much they follow biblical themes. I do read fantasy but feel it is very important to determine if a book is celebrating dark magic (if it is, it's not a book I'll read) OR if the overall theme is LIGHT triumphing over the dark. I can't wait to read everyone else's thoughts!

[@lovelydaywithholly]

Hey friend! Thank you for your response! I think that is a great filter by which to run any kind of media through; is it celebrating darkness or celebrating light!

[@Elia-fn8jv]

What did you feel read lotr or harry Potter,i recently watched i video saying that is the ABSOLUTE work of evil is that true?

[@elmarivandermerwe2303]

Please help me I am really in love and Jesus is my true groom but I am so helpless and I am tempted into love spells but I am scared to lose my salvation if I investigate I have done everything humanly possible to get rid of my love for this person but I cannot let them go trying to love others however sweet and Noble,I want that individual no matter how I try to love someone else I am in a relationship with someone wonderful but the love and attraction that should be there just is not no matter how much I try to convince myself that my current relationship is good and true and wonderful am angel told me that the love of my life feels the same about me but would never give me a chance because even though it's not they believe our relationship is blasformis. The Lord had saved me from suicide three times because I feel like a fraud the Lord wants me to testify to my fellow Christians but I am scared of judgment. I know I don't know but you are a child of God like me please can you help me my sister in Christ even though I don't even know your name but you have a voice can you try to help me and others like me please before our King returns and He does not come for me please help for the groom of grooms is coming soon and I want to have enough oil in my lamp to join the bridal party.I thank you gppd night and God bless

[@christalleescholes1000]

So glad I found your channel, this is a great video, very important. I personally know in my heart that God wouldn't want me reading things like this. I went through my movies, and my books and disposed of many. I searched his word and was convicted. I am reading only Christian fiction now and I have peace. My soul is more important than being entertained here on Earth. God bless you, ask him for discernment 🙏🙏❤️

[@greenergrass4060]

Ooh, can you reccomend good christian fiction?

[@angelaknight7184]

Look I am a good witch.I’m also Christian ,if god didn’t want me to do this,why does my magic work.I’ve never believed in the devil,even as a child.so whose right and whose right and whose wrong.There are many Christian witches about x

[@Supernimo735]

You do white magic

[@luceroluna2853]

The Armor of God …11Put on the full armor of God, so that you can make your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this world’s darkness, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13Therefore take up the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you will be able to stand your ground, and having done everything, to stand

[@SomeBunnyReads]

Oh I love this!!! And I would love to see more Christian videos on your channel :)))

[@lovelydaywithholly]

Thank you Phoenix!! Any Christian video ideas for me?

[@luceroluna2853]

everything of God is twisted everyone is a Christian but not everyone is a child of God We are all created by God, but we are not all children of God (1 Corinthians 8:6; Romans 11:36; Colossians 1:16).

[@jlowman318]

You’re personality is so pure, I see your point, magic is fascinating,now you see me now you don’t, let’s turn a frog into a rabbit or casting spells as a human aspect we’re born to engage in learning and exploring, but when we realize that something is not clean or 9:58 wholesome good or bad, we have a conscience to say or see the difference of what is righteous as a Christian we read the Holy Bible and we become changed inside knowing the truth! Jesus Christ my savior Died for us Because he knew the evil in the world, all have come short of the glory of GOD we are changed and born again of the remission of sin Jesus wiped it all away! Are we gonna mess up? Yes absolutely We can go to Him in prayer n Guidance with HolySpirit. Lord be with you!

[@OfficialStreamSagaTv]

What's wrong with reading harry Potter we all know it's fake ☠️😭

[@angelaknight7184]

Also the bible is one of the most magical books out there.psalms ,so read what you want to .😊

[@DaughterofIncrease]

This is a great question. I think it's all about your personal conviction from the Holy Spirit. We all know what's right and wrong, but some aren't convicted. The Bible tells us in Romans 14:1-23 not to judge or condemn others based on our own personal convictions. Each relationship is personal. I know for me I enjoy fantasy books but I can't watch many supernatural shows because I'm convicted in watching them especially the show Lucifer. The Holy Spirit told me stop watching cause I was enjoying it too much. So it's all personal. Also seek God if you are unsure about certain books. He will tell you whether you can or can't. Great discussion video & question!!!!

[@sanjakeim5578]

Yeah the fantasy show is your life really when ya think about it! GOD shines so many miracles apon us all that having superpowers feels unnecessary!

[@Emily-uy5kg]

Thank you so much for doing this video! I am experiencing the same struggle in my life. In my family, Harry Potter was not allowed. However, as we got older, my parents allowed us to try it if we continued to remember it is just a story. However, I felt convicted after a while so I haven’t picked it back up again. I read lots of fantasy, and I have wondered also what the line is. Romanov by Nadine Brandes is something I chose not to read because it is *spoiler* about a spell or charm that saves a person from death. Right now, I mainly avoid all spells/charms and all dark magic. Something I have heard is to not worry about what the line is, where it is, or how gray it is. Instead, where are you seeking to be? If you trying to get as close as possible to the line, aren’t your desires rooted in what lays across it? But if your desires are righteousness, you would be doing everything you can to stay as far away from the line as possible. I have yet to see what this would look like in my own life, but you have encouraged me to spend more time in prayer and to do my own study on this matter! Thank you, Holly, and I will be praying for you!

[@lovelydaywithholly]

Thank you so much for you reply Emily! I also felt a bit uncomfortable reading Romanov by Nadine Brandes, but LOOOVED Fawkes by her and actually felt encouraged to walk closer to my Jesus because of it...which I also thought was interesting since Fawkes isn't explicitly a Biblical parallel... Have you read Fawkes?

[@Emily-uy5kg]

I have not read Fawkes, although I own it and it has been on my TBR for ever. I also very much want to read her Out of Time series, it sounds fascinating. Thank you for the recommendation, I want to read it even more now! :)

[@ChristianFaithAndFiction]

It’s complicated isn’t it. I read the first two books of Harry Potter as an adult to see what I thought and I wasn’t comfortable with it. But I enjoy Tolkien and C.S. Lewis. I don’t always agree with everything in them, for instance, The Voyage of the Dawn Treader has Lucy saying a spell to release some invisible creatures, which I’m not so happy about. In Lord of the Rings I don’t like the “Seeing stones” as they remind me of crystal balls. I draw the line at any magic that promotes occult practices like witchcraft or tarot card reading, divining or speaking to the dead. I am usually more okay with superpowers like super heroes. I tend to see Gandalf’s power as a superpower and more metaphorical of the Holy Spirit’s supernatural power, but it could also be seen as sorcery. I think there are definite no-go areas for me and then some grey areas where I just have to pray and these days if I ever feel uncomfortable reading something I would DNF it.

[@sanjakeim5578]

Tarot cards are funny to me because they are just pictures that the user thinks represents how there day should go. They remind me of looking through my own photos on Instagram and allowing each picture to judge how my day goes. What I'm saying is that while they could be helpful, its a lot easier to pray in my opinion!

[@ChristianFaithAndFiction]

@@sanjakeim5578 Yes. Why would you ask a pack of cards (or an evil spirit) to tell you about the future, when you can ask God the creator of the universe, the one who knows the beginning from the end?!

[@Operasinger0]

Here's my take: First, there's a difference between real magick and fantasy magic. An example: Real magic is like Voodoo and wicca. Fantasy magic: fireballs and magic barriers.

[@Jenna1814]

I love how you put this question out there like that, make people think. I myself have really stopped watching a lot of the things I use to watch back in the day because I came to an understanding of what God really wants from us. Thank you so much. I am going to share this video. Love this.

[@lovelydaywithholly]

Thank you for your encouragement! It is truly wonderful to see God working in others’ lives in a personal way! God Bless you! 💞

[@Jemminkblade]

Hey! I hear you. And I feel you. (No, I don't think Veggie Tales is bad per se. But I can see how some may want to stay away from it and I respect their opinion on it. I could easily have a long discussion on Veggie Tales alone. Hahaha!) I, too, struggle with this. I've gotten closer to Jesus recently and now all the books that I used to read and shows I used to enjoy have changed drastically. Like, wow, how did I not see how bad some of the content was and I just didn't see it. I loved fantasy. Perhapsit was the promise of fun adventure that fantasy always had that drew me to it, but also the world that's different than my own that was always intriguing. (I'm not condemning anyone who chooses to read fantasy. It's my journey with Jesus and I feel very convicted about reading and watching better content.) Always seek Jesus. He will show you what is right. I pray we all figure out what's right! I still struggle a bit with this topic. Though I've gotten rid of my Harry Potter and other books that have magic in it, but I still kept my Chronicles of Narnia. I didn't feel convicted to get rid of Chronicles of Narnia. I wonder the same thing you did: because the main characters didn't do the magic and it's an allegory - maybe that's why? And I was very curious as to why Mark of the Raven was considered Christian. I just received it for my birthday (granted I mentioned to my husband that I was curious about it) yet I'm still nervous to read it because of the possibility of magic being involved. What makes that story okay by Christians and Harry Potter (I know Christians like it) not as popular by Christians. I personally see witchcraft to be bad. Period. I'm like you, some stories with elements of fantasy, like Beauty and the Beast, less convicting and I want to understand why. (Maybe because it's a story of redemption?) I need this discussion too. Thank you for asking it! Would a Christian fantasy be considered good, clean story if it only had stuff like different creatures and new places (made up worlds) with different technologies of old? Or can "magic" be in it, but only the enemy meant to be defeated? I'd love a discussion! (A polite discussion - no judgement or condemning) Thank you again!

[@lovelydaywithholly]

I love that you have found yourself asking the same questions and seeking the Holy Spirit's guidance. For me, it is tricky in that I used to be a black or white type of person; yes or no, good or bad. There was no gray...However as I have grown up and also grown in my walk with God, I see that there is so much of our world that falls into the gray...I think it will be a daily process for probably as long as I live. Thank you so much for your response!

[@greenergrass4060]

Practicing witchcraft is Bad

[@gatorvalle1161]

Its pretty simple. If the Bible says yea or nay. You shouldn't look any further.

[@DaughterofIncrease]

SN: Locke & Key is absolutely dark! I read 2 of the graphic novels and had to stop. Just was too much. Graphic novel was really graphic so I know the show is over the top. Also I think when we read we go into with a certain mindset so always think about "what am I going into this book to gain or learn?" That helps me decide on books to read. VeggieTales is awesome in my book!!!!!! Lol. I loved it as a kid and still as an adult. I let my son watch it and he learns so much.

[@lovelydaywithholly]

Hey Nay! Thank you so much for watching & responding!! (I was hoping you would!

[@The_Wizard_Owlin_Celestial]

The last book in the harry potter series is basically the re telling of jesus death for the world. Its a story of forgiveness and redemption. I'm not a Christian myself

[@Camila-s8x8y]

This a really important topic to address. I have been struggling with it myself a lot as a christian. I used to play games like world of warcraft, but God has put it on my heart to stay away from it. So, I stopped playing. I think nowadays christians tolerate too much of things that we shouldn't be practicing. It's like every christian has their own truth. What my truth is doesn't have to be your truth, but I don't think it should be like that. There is God's truth. Look at what happened to the Canaanites, God was so against magic and occultism He destroyed them and for a reason. It's no joke. A game like world of warcraft has a lot of occultism in it and the characters in the game worship other gods. I did not realize much that they worship other gods and I used to think it's just a game and none of it is real. But why should I play something entertaining that God is so much against it? A lot of it was also inspired by LOTR, which I also used to like a lot. There are a lot of different opinions on it by christians, but I think nowadays we don't set much clear boundaries. And it sounds like "it's ok, go ahead and sin, you are forgiven anyways"

[@GameDevNerd]

It's fantasy, sweetheart ... no one is going to think you're a witch because you read a Harry Potter book or watched the Hobbit. Reading a story about a serial killer doesn't mean you comitted the horrible sin of murder, does it? And reading a fictional fantasy story about monsters and wizards is not the same as practicing witchcraft. The Bible does NOT say reading fantasy books is wicked, nor that the books are ... maybe people at an extremist church told you that, but it's not in the Bible, whatsoever. As I said in my other comment, Jesus and other prominent figures in the Bible (such as Moses) used a magic wand to work their magical miracles. In the Bible when they mention "sorcery" or "witchcraft" they're referencing non-Jewish ancient folk magic practices that were picked up from other religions and tribes of people, telling you not to get involved in those particular things, because Jewish society was uniting under the patronage of the god Yahweh. Modern churches have a very distorted and twisted set of doctrines that in no way resemble the original, authentic beliefs. After all, most Protestant churches in America teach things like Dispensationalism, the doctrine of the "rapture", which wasn't invented until around the early 1800s. John Nelson Darby is the "Father of Dispensationalism", and published the book on it. It spread like wildfire, and now modern Christians believe it's an authentic part of Christianity and that it's in the Bible, but it's not ... it's from modern times, which is a documented historical fact ... maybe the better question you should be asking yourself is why are churches discouraging people from reading literature, asking questions and studying things? That's the really scary thing. When you start studying the history of how we got the Bible and how Christianity grew from nothing into what it is today, it will be a REAL eye-opener for you ...

[@judymagar7097]

I know in the New Testament, it talks about Study to Show yourself approved. But, I think it's ok to a point. Because, we are curious about the world (spiritual and the non spiritual). The Bible talks a lot about magic and witchcraft. And tells us how to deal with it. So the more we read about magic and witchcraft, the more we can deal with it in our own lives. Not saying we practice. Because we don't. The Bible also talks about how rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft. So, when we sin, we rebel against God. So when we read about magic and witchcraft, we learn how to deal with it. How to stop it. That's a great question.

[@chrisslayer9014]

You should watch this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2iXYoSYiZaMe9E The bible talks about black magic in this particular context. If you could shoot lighting you would be a super hero. King Salomon was guilty of using runes and other forms of forbidden magic that involved demons. The problem with church is that you only get a narrow secular view without the knowledge of the Hebrew language or culture. Its important to understand others, because Kabalism comes from the same culture the bible was written by. In other words, staying strong is great but paranoia, fear, and ignorance is the biggest problem with American churches. If you studied history and culture, you clearly would find that the shift from magic to science takes place over a long period of time. The devil is an extremely illusive enemy, one in which cannot be sensed with human senses yet is very much alive. In conclusion, my thoughts about magic are neutral as long as the intent does not involve malice or evil worship of something else. Religion has a tribal intent, so what intent do you think the people who write the bible had besides bettering ones self? The Pharisees and Sadducees where in a ideological struggle for their future of their kingdom during the time period of Jesus. Jesus was part of the Sadducees. After Jesus death the Jews are taken into captivity in Rome but many die for their faith in Christ by Julius Cesar. By the time period the Maccabees rebellion occurred, Emperor Titus was in-charge and it would change the course of Roman history for ever. In a sense, reading the bible and similar books is like delving into a complex RPG videogame.

[@remley8877]

There were only a few forbidden sorcery practices in the old testament, though even at the time of Moses, even then, the meaning of some terms had been lost. I am a Christian and I'm curious about Kabala and etc too, but I honestly delve into Hermetic Magic, though some of it may well be ok, like creating Golem seems to be ok, but as casting lots is forbidden and certain other divination practices are strictly prohibited for Christians and Jews, I won't personally delve into any actual Magik practices as in the time of King Sol, there were certain things that were allowed and a reward which were prohibited, and a few which were great areas, unfortunately, we no longer fully understand what practices are forbidden. I personally won't engage in Magik, Kaballa, Masonic Rutuals or etc. I can separate fantasy from reality and I enjoyed the first 2 Harry Potter movies. I have no kids, but if I did, I'd carefully council them, but probably let them read the books or watch theories as they are purely fantasy. If however, I experience a feeling of conviction or repulsion when reading or watching a fantasy series that seems a bit too close to something actually evil, I'd just stop watching or reading it. The word of God is written on our hearts before we're born. We're not all equally yoked, nor equally knowledgeable about God and his character, but if you feel something is wrong for you to read and that you probably shouldn't go there, don't. Maybe in the future you will have more context and knowledge and understand what about it made you feel like you shouldn't have read or watched it, but in that future time you may be ready to watch or read it, understanding what it is and what you're to take from it. Follow your heart and God will guide you. There may come a time when you are ready to move from milk to stong meet and actually face and dominate evil forces. Walk with Jesus, learn his character and general mindset and that of The Father, then maybe revisit these areas when your mind is less clouded. Just my opinion. You know what is right and wrong for now, perhaps it changes a couple more decades into your walk, but if it doesn't feel right, it definitely isn't right for now, though maybe later it will be.

[@BouncermanDotCom]

People who practice Christianity are not going to like what I have to say, but it's true. Christians are using magic the entire time but they don't want you to call it that. The Bible gives you an example of how to pray: The Lord's Prayer... You are invoking 3 main spirit's in the name of father/son/holy ghost You give him power in the words "hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. And at the end "for thine is the kingdom the power and the glory forever"" You make a simple request for them to intercede for you to not go hungry, then ask again to intercede for your misdeeds because it invokes symbology for the blood sacrifice where the son spirit intercedes for your debt, and you ask because you created a blood oath through blood ties at baptism, refreshed repeatedly by reapplying prayer/words/meditation/invocation that you should forgive those who trespass against you as well. Because of these things also intercede so that I'm not tempted by the enemy or captured. At the very end, it ends with an "amen" instead of "so mote it be".

[@defenestratefalsehoods]

As much magick that is in the bible your worried about fictional books and movies. If your faith cant get past a movie or book then it was week to begin with. Live life and stop worrying about fictional characters. That's taking religion too far.

[@welestardkhar5442]

I think I should stop doing magic even though I'm just using with my tricks i never make myself associate with evil not at all i hate snake and evil so much when I saw the snakes in the forest i often killed them n never leave them alive n run away I'm a Christian so probably I should quit practicing n performing magic tricks Sister I'm actually doing magic tricks just to entertain with my classmates in college just to make them laugh but didn't take it seriously as my passion or my career. I'm from northeast India Meghalaya Sister where r u from?

[@redpancakes6144]

It’s a maturity issue, not sinful to read or watch, I don’t know about writing it. But it’s not a salvation issue, it’s a maturity issue, because God hates it, so we should give it up for Him.

[@loulou2ist]

I am a believer in god and i am facinated by all gods creatures and if i would do magic or white magic then i would not worship a diety for that but maybe use candles to heighten the sences and invorment around me, but the focus and glory is to god because magic happens by gods permission only whether its good or evil! And evil magic only happens because god gives permission to the devils or spirits to make it work and its because we have our own free will to choose and learn whats good and ad and maybe take the consequences of our actions and learn from mistakes… it happens because of god allows it! Not bacause he wants us to suffer but because it will bring the result to the practitioner so to walk this path it reveals soon how actions can be and do to people…. But any kind of so called good magic wich can lead you wrong if you are easy influenced to fall…. But its by the power of god that magic happens and its time to speak by gods name and glorify god in every way and repent and ask to be led to the right path

[@jasminefleary3786]

The night circus one throw it away keep a curse so dark n lovely yh we need to base everything off the Word of God im seeking Godly wisdom to

[@nataliarivera1073]

I think that magic is all sorcery but Miracles is divine intervention! That's the best way i can explain it!

[@royromano9792]

What’s ur deal? Magic is not real. Regardless if you’re Bible says it is…

[@amandaforgy621]

Great video and discussion.....this has been something on my heart lately. In 2017, I bought so many fantasy books and got heavily into booktube and book reviews and picking up what was "most popular". I was so involved in those "fantasy worlds/content" that it took away from my time with God. I was so convicted when I realized how certain media, whether books, movies, tv shows, or even content creators on youtube/social media can consume so much of your time and sometimes you can allow it to be an "idol" (fixated on something so much more than God) in your life. With that said, this week actually, I got rid of half the books I bought back then that I felt were either too "evil" or dark for my personal preference and decided to read anything with fantasy themes only in moderation and make sure I am still dedicating time to the Lord and not losing sight of his plan for me and my life. I also unfollowed many popular general booktubers due to the large amount of books promoted that have themes/content I don't want to see/hear about or recommended to me. It's hard because for many general popular booktubers - you never see anything Christian related and I felt like I was spending too much time involved in that content. It's something I prayed about for sure. I think it's important to have biblical discernment and always be aware of any content you are reading/watching/listening to and let the holy spirit guide you so you are not lead away from God or put any of those things above / more important to your time with God. Maybe it's all about balance? I'm not sure - there are certainly things I would never read/watch because its too violent/graphic/evil for me, but then I enjoyed Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter. I think it's all personal for each person like many of the comments have said but for me, it is important to have biblical guidelines for general content. I think there is a fine line sometimes too. Many times I ask the Lord to let me see/understand if its something I need to steer clear of. Thanks for this video. Nice to see this discussion and see everyones thoughts.

[@greenergrass4060]

Can you please please please list the books that you think christians should avoid?!

[@jamesparnell9304]

Y’all need to stop looking at it like this like your not practicing dark magic nothing is wrong with it y’all childish af

[@natobear1834]

To me, LOTR, is about expressing yourself and the hardships of life, through fantasy. If you are armed with the Lord and Christ, in a way, you are a wizard of faith fighting against wizards of satan.

[@solarlola5953]

What in the world ?there’s no such thing as wizard of faith. God clearly expresses that he hates witchcraft. Don’t make excuses

[@reddbehrens]

I can no longer read any Stephen King novels. Too much of his work now comes across to me as satanic.

[@xxRainbowdashxx100]

What about Disney movies they are part of someone's childhood

[@lovelydaywithholly]

Phanlover123 it’s all such a tricky thing to navigate. I would suggest you read the Bible and ask God for discernment and He will tell you how to make those kinds of decisions. 💗🙏🏻

[@lelands_feenland.2001]

My friend loves Harry Potter and I love fairy and screw this video

[@heavyjoechipman3594]

Holly, I loved this video. At 50, I can always learn from others. Although I think I already know your answer, my question is this: How bad or sinful is Disney, MARVEL (Cinematic Universe) or MCU Movies? I've really struggled letting them go. But as a christian I just know they're wrong for me. Am I wrong on this? Please give me your thoughts or opinion. Thanks. God bless you and yours.☺🙏👍

[@sanjakeim5578]

Its not that they are sinful. I think of them as if they are galaxies that actually do exist in another dimension! Notice how a lot of the people in those franchises always seem to keep battling? Well its because they have yet to understand that could use there power in a holy light to simply pray for there enemies. Superpowers kind of represent the prideful ego that wants us to believe that we are a greater hero or heroine then GOD. However once we realize we are to be in UNION with the divine thats when the boundaries disappear. So in short I'm saying that they are a waste of time to watch if you already innerstand that UNION between you and CHRIST. Spoiler alert btw this recent Spiderman actually has him working to better the mental health of his enemies which is quite different from any show I've ever seen!

[@poblethee51-a27]

Thank you so much for the video it helped me a lot! :D

[@lovelydaywithholly]

I am so glad to hear that!! God bless!! 💖

[@sbg1921]

Amen! Great video!

[@Christionbridges]

Learn to apologize to god 🧠❤️🏋️

[@ericclausen6772]

No magic!!!!! Or Q Spirit boards

[@Kyrana4102]

I'm so happy that Im not the only person thinking that and that you made this video!🤍

[@reginadake5672]

I was hoping you would have some answers for me ;) It sounds like many people struggle with this. My girls are 10 and so far we have not read fantasy type books with them because I honestly can't decide what I think about them. However we have watched most of the Disney movies and read old fairy tales and I'm asking myself, "Isn't that the same thing?" I want to draw a line somewhere but don't know how? I homeschool and last year we studied ancient Greek and touched on some Greek mythology. I kept thinking why are we studying this and why is it in Christian curriculum. It is history but do we need to know all these dark and untrue stories? I'm and avid reader but I think the only fantasy/magic book I've read is the Night Circus which you I know you recently DNFed. I'm so bad at stopping books once I start especially if they are highly recommended! I kept thinking it was going to get better and was disappointed. Can I also add that I can't stand veggie tales although not for that reason :) I'm hoping you make a part 2 of this video and let us know what info you have gathered!

[@obsidiankrystal3308]

I'd say let them, I grew up reading and watching Harry Potter, lord of the rings and now I play a lot of games with magic and demons. But it's all fake, it's not real magic or real demons. But the characters and stories that have magic in them can leave positive influences If you become to strict with what your kids can and cannot watch they will do it in secret or become resentful. And if not most likely fearful I even write stories similar to lotr myself. It does not change my beliefs at the end of the day

[@sabrinar7150]

Personally I don’t read any fantasy anymore... I really felt convicted that it wasn’t good to read. I’m interested to see what other people think though.

[@lovelydaywithholly]

Thank you for your response! How long ago did you make this decision and did you find it difficult to cut out that content in your life?

[@sabrinar7150]

Lovely Day with Holly I decided to stop reading it in January and I did find it hard because I did enjoy reading fantasy, but I feel a lot better since I did that. I started to wonder about it in early fall and from then until January that conviction of maybe it wasn’t good to read those books, for the same reasons you mentioned, was there and that feeling continued to get stronger until I decided to quite reading it all together. I thought about just going book by book but I still just didn’t feel right about it. I guess what it showed me was that I should focus on things that God does like and read books that are pleasing to Him instead of books that the main focus are on things He hates. I don’t know if that makes any sense or not, but I hope it does 🙂

[@gideonayers9007]

Funniest thing is ive been reading Lord of the rings. And CS lewis had magick in his works too as when aslan says "do not recite the deep magick to me. I was there when it was written"

[@FFOJ777]

CS LEWISWAS ALSO A BROTHER IN CHRIST. MOST OF HIS BOOKS HAVE THE SAVIOR COMPLEX/PLOT USING THE WEAK TO HUMBLE THE GREAT.

[@BotziLux]

"Magic" IS EVIL.. MYSTERY AND FANTASY IS SOMETHING ELSE! EVEN GOD HAS IT'S OWN MYSTERY AND FANTASY..! THE "MAGIC" is fake faith! It's not magic i'ts faith...that we can work with!

[@Supernimo735]

Magic isn't real deal with it that's all

[@Supernimo735]

We do it for fun

[@pomaerivera]

HI! i would like to ask if Throne of glass series is something not okay for us Christians? I am already on the fifth book. its becoming more exciting, adventurous, kind of darker and all that. but i also had depression. so i came into reading this year. i had panic attack one night and my mom thought itsbecause of what i read when i know to myself its my overthinking and depression. she thought its an access of the enemy to mind. i enjoyed TOG and i dont think its really about that but then it's stories about wyrdmarks and a little bit of spells and all that but i dont know

[@Kyrana4102]

I've read fantasy all my life and decided not to read it anymore because ist drives me apart of god. I think it is just more difficult to see god though a world created by a humen, where he played god in a way. God created the world for us to live in this world. Not to live in a high fantasy world created by another humen and later become sad that it is not reality. That it is a Illusion. This are my - I know heavy - thoughts on this topic. I really thought a lot about fantasy and decided to distance myself from it. I want to read more christian fiction books without fantasy in the future. To honor god while reading too and not distance my heart from him by falling for an Illusion...

[@lovelydaywithholly]

That totally makes sense! I definitely enjoy Christian fiction a lot too 💜

[@greenergrass4060]

Hello, ive been meaning to ask if this is your own personal conviction, and will reading fantasy get one to hell?

[@DJdeliverance]

Best advice is yes follow the holy spirit pray n ask for wisdom discernment etc ask and you shall receive. But the other thing that I find helps me get a better understanding of thr word when I have questions is the order 1sr pray on it then seek man council from those I think it was family then the world so God family then man. But other than that is to use the bible 1st as well but in Every translation language u can find &we tend to see thr most true meaning from context in most cases it's not hard to understand when we read it like that it all fits its been made into a puzzle it seemed. I want to blame the phoenicians since they created thr concept of an alphabet and for every major language around 15th century n they twisted it the word made up others that don't explain it well n English is like tje worst language anyway hope that helps its all I got that's all I do and then research it online to find the etymology to find thr best meaning.

[@zynark777]

What instigates the question? My prayers. Why aren't they answered? If they are answered but not in my favor, why must I suffer? Doesn't have to become demonolatry or doing really dark stuff like necromancy, cannibalism, vampirism or whatever. I just want to be happy really. Don't wanna hear "wait" or "it will come" or "trust". Every day is just suffering without this one thing I need. Then I look at what some people in the Bible did, like Elisha healing Naaman, describe to me how he did that and what we would call ritual bathing to heal people today. What is it called? What do you call spitting on dust and putting it on a blind man's eyelids to make him see again? What is it called? What do you call prophetic interpretation of dreams today? What domain of human activities is that? Who did Saul call on to speak to the dead prophet Samuel? Was he reprimanded by God for it? What are the Umim and Thummim and why did God allow these tools? How did Jacob change the genders of the sheep? What would we call that? There are plenty more things. All these can of course be attributed to strictly being theurgy, so it's miracles then, instead of magic, but as long as it is ritual involved, and a spiritual element connected to it, it is still in that general domain. At least academically. And if there ever was a science of miracles among the prophets, where is it now? Where is that tradition? Because I need it badly. Then look at Church people like Albertus Magnus or some of the popes. It all feels like "one rule for thee, another for me" throughout this whole subject.

[@jamielight5644]

King James Version leaves out a lot. And was told by the Pope to rewrite the Bible. The where part of the nights templar. That's why it's called King James "version." Another thing King James used scientist and atheist to rewrite the Bible. King James also wrote Daemonologie. Look up Gnostic Christians. There should be some truth you seek.

[@grinder00012]

We'll the bible does say that wizards,sorcery, necromancy, and such are an abomination. Ive have been seeking guidance on this because i practice cardistry and am unure of what constitutes actually wizardry. I practice cardistry very little. Cardistry does not include clever illusions. . So idk still if its a good idea.

[@shealocke3173]

The phrases translated to magic aren't even all the same and, pending on the translation, might have more translated into magic or less. So the word is more to give an idea of a supernatural something to what is being conducted. Magic in a lot of fantasy is simply something someone can do. They're born with it or can train to feel it and use it like the Force. So it can often fall into the same camp as superheroes. Though, admittedly, some take issue with those too. But, what it all usually boils down to, is that there are these extra talents people have available to them and so, when that's the case, they're not really any different from any other talent someone might have. And as a Christian I do believe that all our natural talents and gifts are given by God. It's how we use them that is important. Are we giving credit to God or taking it ourselves? So, if a person enjoys a romance or an adventure story where the characters attribute nothing to God; not the finding of a wonderful partner, not their survival, not the daring swing across a pit of crocodiles then, arguably, the same could be said for stories that have these other sorts of talents (magic). With that said, if you do feel convicted then obviously stop. Even if it isn't sinful in and off itself, obviously it would be sinful to continue to do something that you feel is sinful (Romans 14 and 1 Corinthians 8 touch on this). But if course, the opposite can be true abs so we must listen to the Holy Spirits prompts.

[@TimothyGott]

It's only when you are neck deep in LOTR that you might then start to look around and see that Gandalf is not a wizard but a spiritual being (called the Valar I think), and Middle Earth did not just pop up as a place for battles against good and evil to be raised. But Middle Earth had a beginning (see the Silmarillion), and that beginning oddly parallels Genesis in interesting ways ... And perhaps, just perhaps, someone might have their interests peeked regarding this greatest beginning of them all.

[@justen.d.sblackburn6701]

The Bible says that a man lusts overall Millie's not married to he's committed adultery in his heart so if we have the same perspective about magic it's not appropriate for a Christian to be wanting to be a magician or involved with magic how cuz the fire we need to be

[@rogerkreil3314]

My mother told me that demons tormented her all night because I watched Harry Potter. But she believes that her house is haunted anyways. And to be fair after they just moved into it, I was helping my mother move stuff from her old house into her new house. I was downstairs exhausted and I thought that I saw my mother enter into the laundry room. I followed her into the laundry room and no one was there. She was upstairs. Over four years later, there was an invisible poltergeist cat kneading my bed. And last Thanksgiving, there was a weird bowl shadow on the ceiling. So maybe she is right.

[@jamielight5644]

What if you use crystals for healing and protection?

[@ogfreshorange5877]

I think you should just rely on Jesus for that Jamie

[@greenergrass4060]

I agree. Ascribing powers to crystals is wrong

[@margethiessen8150]

This is so good Holly , i👍

[@lovelydaywithholly]

Marge Thiessen thanks! ☺️🙏🏻

[@justen.d.sblackburn6701]

Well I mean we're supposed to stay away from fornication even if you lust over another woman or man it's still funeral Hearts why would magic be any different to mean we're less me over something that's not appropriate

[@_KendraChristine]

This is such an interesting question! I’ve never thought too deeply about it although I wasn’t allowed to watch things like Harry Potter growing up either. The dark magic you were mentioning I think is a lot more dangerous, just because you’re opening yourself up to that world, and spirits and demons aren’t just held in by a tv screen or pages on a book and I think when you’re actively letting your mind and your thoughts go there, you’re in a sense allowing yourself to influenced by the powers of darkness. It’s scary. This is a good question and thing to be thinking about. Magic in general like in Disney movies and stuff hasn’t convicted me but dark magic definitely has so it’s interesting the difference in that.

[@lovelydaywithholly]

Hey Kendra, thanks for your response!

[@smokingjoefrazier2156]

Galatians 5:20 New King James Version 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, Magic is the same as sorcery, and that's why we should stay away from it There's a saying curiosity killed the cat It the curiosity that want to do magic, but magic is not really, but the witchcraft is, not of God

[@smokingjoefrazier2156]

Jesus did not go around casing spells, Jesus is our example, but he did go around rebuking, and casing out devils

[@smokingjoefrazier2156]

The devil will have you to think it's okay it's not so bad, but I say to you be not deceived Galatians 6:7 New King James Version 7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.

[@smokingjoefrazier2156]

7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.

[@greenergrass4060]

Exactly, thats why dont practice witchcraft

[@alannagray1276]

Great question! I think about this quite often. Before I was a Christian, I was a big Harry Potter fan. However, as I continued growing in my faith, I felt convicted about it and got rid of all my merchandise. One thing I consider often is that magic is used even today and has led many people away from God. It makes me wonder if God would be pleased with me reading and enjoying books about it (even if fictional). However, I still struggle with navigating this! The books you mentioned like Narnia and Lord of the Rings have biblical themes and so I'm not entirely sure how to feel about that. Definitely open to other thoughts about this issue. Thank you for bringing the topic up for discussion! :)

[@lovelydaywithholly]

I really appreciate your response Alanna. I too consider if reading/watching magical content blesses the Lord...and then you have the question of if the book was written by a believer and has Biblical themes....hmmmm

[@thadtheman3751]

Every story has somethings in that are not true. That is why they are stories. As long as you realize that what you are reading is fantasy and not reality, you are fine.

[@Godsgift2mee]

As a parent to a toddler and I’ve struggled with what’s the right answer when it comes to magic in cartoons

[@darrenkhosasi1252]

Does it count if we watch something magical just for entertainment?

[@reflexionesdelabiblia6711]

Vegetables talking is just using the imagination. Hmmm

[@MM3OG]

Here's the thing Christians and catholics don't even know that they also too are performing magik through rituals like singing, drinking the blood of Jesus Christ, eating the body. Reading the Bible is also an invocation of God and the angels in heaven. I think there's a misconception that magik is evil and in reality it's not different than catholism or Christianity. I don't practice magik or occultism however I've done a lot of research and it's definitely not what you think once you really look into it.

[@queminhtv1850]

I love your video because i can practice my listening skill.

[@sanjakeim5578]

Great video! In my opinion being a Christian is another level of magic that requires humble intentions! I believe all magic could be used properly to heal people, however using prayer through Christianity takes away any risk factor! Also Jesus was very much gifted, but notice how his intentions were pure? GOD knows we want to use are powers he just wants to make sure they are purified before we pray(cast spells)!

[@GameDevNerd]

Jesus carried a wand and performed magic. The oldest Christian artwork shows Jesus wielding a wand to change water into wine, feed the multitudes and raise Lazarus from death. Moses was a wizard who carried a wand. He tapped the stone with his wand and water flowed out of it. Moses and Aaron had a magic battle with Egyptian wizards, and Aaron changes his wand into a serpent. Moses used a wand to part the Red Sea, and by holding his wand up high he helped the Hebrews win the Battle of Refidem against the Amalekites. Wand is sometimes translated as "stick", "staff" or "rod", depending on who translated it. But a wand is the same thing: a stick, rod, staff, etc ... wands and magic are important to Christianity and Judaism, and the Bible is full of magic. The people in charge, in positions of both church and government authority, have changed Christianity over time to suit their purposes. The real, original Christianity is nothing like what we have today ...

[@sofiabravo1994]

Read the Bible you’re wrong Aaron.

[@GameDevNerd]

@@sofiabravo1994 actually I'm 100% factually correct, and you can verify this by Googling magic wands in Christian and Hebrew artwork. Even in the New Testament the word "rhabdos" meaning wand/rod/magic staff is used. The Greeks also had the word "rhabdomancy" which means the art of doing magic with your "rhabdos" (wand). In ancient cultures these things were synonymous with each other ... in cultures around the world it was common for shamans, magicians and conjurers to carry magical wands to perform miracles with. And prior to the Dark Ages when the Catholic Church began censoring artwork early Christians depicted Jesus as being a wand-carrying magician in paintings, carvings and engravings. Again, just look it up and you can see for yourself. Modern Christianity is a heavily modified and watered-down version of the real thing, and most Christians have no idea where their own beliefs and holy books came from. Once you study the history behind it you'll change your mind about a lot of stuff you've been told. You'll start to realize "Satan" is a mistranslation and misinterpretation, there's no "Hell" (the word Hell comes from Norse mythology and ancient Hebrews didn't believe in a place called Hell). You're only doing yourself a disservice by not researching the thing you're trying to base your whole life on. I suggest reading books like Misquoting Jesus by Bart Ehrmann as well ...

[@gluna1977]

I don't think it was a real wand, maybe a small tree branch or a stick. Maybe even a walking stick

[@GameDevNerd]

@@gluna1977 that's precisely what a "real wand" is: a wooden stick used in mystical rituals and practices. And yes, a person might also use it as a walking stick as well because they always carry it with them.

[@gabrielluna3954]

I still like magic

[@jamielight5644]

Moses ?

[@Christionbridges]

Your all god I love and believe in all your dreams ☯️🌀⭕️create your own meditation understand your trauma and work through your anger 🙏❤️🙏money power and attention kills 💎💎💎love unity

[@louisjordan4702]

Child you sound so sweet and innocent. I know that the subject may interest you but I must tell you in one to step back and stay away from them. You have not lived your life yet and don’t take this as being rude you have no idea what you’re dealing with. You do not have the knowledge or the experience even comprehend. It normally takes a master decades of study self-control physical and mental before they can even begin to start dabbling in educating themselves in the dark arts simply as a reference not for practical application. Hollywood makes this all sounds so fun and interesting but in reality you’re just not ready for it for your own soul stay away from it please

[@Christionbridges]

You are healthy you are wealthy you are enough 🙏🌏🙏

[@danielanderson2331]

JK Rowling is a self-proclaimed Christian and said that she’s included biblical themes in the stories en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_debates_over_the_Harry_Potter_series?wprov=sfti1