Christin vs Islamic God

[@DD-rd3ci]

One day everyone will know that God doesnt need a son a wife or anybody. He is God almighty. Do you really think your God came down to earth that he created and pooped himself and ate the food we eat. Do you really think God had to kill himself for his own blood sacrifice. One day people will stop humanizing God. And you will know how great he is. I found out. That's why im now a muslim as Abraham and jesus was.

[@user-kt6ik4wc2k]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@daniellighting1147]

They weren't, but sure

[@JohnAlamo-pq3bv]

They were submitters (in Arabic = Muslim). Jesus was a Jew and stated he believed in the father who sent the Torah. Read the Bible kids

[@Sewerwoman]

For God so loved the world he sent his only begotten son so whoever belieth in him shall not perish but have eternal life

[@remz7619]

@@Sewerwomantell me why every single depiction of Jesus in Christianity has been derived from ancient pagan pantheons🤔 the whole narrative of crucifixion(death), dead for 3 days and rising is carbon copy of Babylonian paganism

[@MarvoldX]

if you go back to original Christianity, its litterly Islam, but since its written by "poeple" it got changed so much Jesus is a prophet of the God the holly spirit is an angel called jebreel and he isn't a god, he is an angel for God

[@goglgollog1743]

Ya'Allah , I never thought that the holy spirit ideas they came with is jebreal SubhanAllah It is really comfortable to be Muslim knowing that your religion is true by being clear and having the right facts about it everywhere Lovely ❤

[@takiahmed5575]

@@goglgollog1743 Surah 4:171 states that Jibraeel Alaihissalam is the holy Spirit.

[@JChristIsRisen]

What a false statement, the people who wrote the Bible were guided by the Holy spirit which he proceeds from the Father. Also Islam did not exist until 600 years after Christ.

[@this_world.s_test]

@@JChristIsRisenok lil man nice try tho Christianity founded in 3th century by Paul 😂 bible is also written by him. He have never seen Jesus a.s and his companions then gospels were chosen randomly he had to take 4 book from 300books so we got 300gospels. And each one contradicts another one😅 then buddy old doesn't mean true if old was true hindus would be worshipping right path etg😅 jews hate Jesus a.s but we love him as much as we do love our Muhammad s.a.w 😊

[@takiahmed5575]

I wonder if you know when the bible was finalised. Using, "600 years" argument shows that you have no idea about your own religion. Incase you haven't heard of Malachi, A prophet who lived 600 years before Jesus. I want you to prove the so called "Trinity" from malachi.@@JChristIsRisen

[@MrMalam1234]

Did you just say Christianity is monotheistic

[@Sewerwoman]

I guess you dont know anything about Christianity

[@Sxmekid7]

It is if your implying that its not with the question

[@zm4261]

@@Sxmekid7of course it's not. Claiming 1 God when it's 3 explicitly separate entities is a contradiction but you all just label it a mystery. The only evidence for it being 1 God is Christians claiming "but it's 1 God" If I have 3 humans and claim it's 1 human, that's clearly not enough evidence to substantiate it being 1 human.

[@ArabianAtheist57]

Tell me you don't understand what the trinity is without telling me you don't understand what it is.​@@zm4261

[@Willhateoneverything]

​@@ArabianAtheist57Christianity is a not a monotheistic religion

[@TrulyUnruly88]

3 persons is not monotheistic. The trinity is pure paganism. Greeks: Zeus,Athena,Apollo. Egyptians: Osiris,Isis,Horus. Osiris’s flesh and blood was even bread, and wine, now that’s just plagiarism

[@JChristIsRisen]

Very false, Christianity is monotheistic. 3 persons that make up one God, it is that simple. Just because you appeal to your lack of understanding doesn’t mean it’s not true. 3 hypostasis united in will, Dignity, and adoration, it is not 2 against 1 or 1 against 2. They are united and make up one God.

[@xjoness18]

Clearly not 1 god since Jesus prayed and said in John 5:30 I by myself can do nothing. Your god is a weak god, finite and limited.

[@xjoness18]

You will never see the father praying to the son, but the son prays to the father, and does Jesus know the hour? Yeah stick to the hierarchy of the father being the only true god. John 17:3.

[@JChristIsRisen]

@@xjoness18 Ha you make me laugh 😂😂. Jesus prays to the father because prayer is just a form of Holy communication is it not? Also Jesus was both human and God so wouldn’t he try to lead by example for his disciples?

[@JChristIsRisen]

@@xjoness18 The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit all worship and glorify and love each other. They are united, not 2 against one or 1 against 2.

[@user-pt6mq8oh7y]

Christianity didnt remove paganism,it rebranded it

[@ArabianAtheist57]

Same with islam , stealing tawaf and hajj from pagans because momo couldn't think creatively and instead simply said " allah commanded us to make pilgrimage". Don't get me started on kissing some dirty old stone and wiping your face on some boring ass concrete that is supposedly divine 😂

[@zm4261]

It's nuts when you deep it. They really got the God of Abraham and said he is equal to his messenger. They tricked believers into worshipping the messenger.

[@user-pt6mq8oh7y]

@@zm4261 they bow down to a statue hang oictures of saints statues of mary and jesus worship three god but tryna make it make sense that rhey are one then say that today's christianity isnt paganism

[@thatguyonline5208]

Wrong keep coping

[@this_world.s_test]

@@user-pt6mq8oh7yin fact christianity adopted paganism 😅 their difference from us muslims is concept of God

[@ItzShinePlayz]

The trinity part that makes me confuse the most

[@zm4261]

@@Sxmekid7a lot of aspects are easily understood simple concepts. eternal, all powerful, all knowledgeable, we understand that about God. it's when you start saying another entity (Jesus) that is not those things is equally as God as an entity that is, that's when it becomes confusing

[@Madara-Uchiha]

​@@Sxmekid7You mean its too hard to explain because either: 1) No one on this Planet is actually able to explain it 2) No one even wants to try to explain it as he will slide down into lies trying to explain it

[@lucaricci1987]

Jesus is not the Father, the Father is not the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is not Jesus, all three are one God. If it’s confusing, well it’s supposed to be, there was St Augustine who contemplated the workings of the Holy Trinity and he came upon a child on a beach who was trying to fill a hole in the sand with the entire ocean, Augustine told the kid that it was impossible, but the child responded“And you could never possibly understand the Holy Trinity.” Then in a flash, the boy disappeared. It’s believed that the child was an apparition of the child Jesus

[@Madara-Uchiha]

@@lucaricci1987 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@zm4261]

@@lucaricci1987 why is it supposed to be confusing when "God is not the author of confusion"? The the Trinity was the true reality, Jesus would've taught it explicitly. Since he didn't nobody will be punished for worshipping "the Father" alone as it is the least confusing and is consistent with the prior belief and message of 1 God as the Jews knew it.

[@ridzuan94]

Did Abraham worship or pray to Jesus?

[@Madara-Uchiha]

😂😂😂😂 Nah jesus didn't exist back then. The "father" still had to find a way to multiply himself 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ridzuan94]

@Epirus_COM old testament was originally written in Hebrew which is a Semitic language, similar to the Arabic and Aramaic. In these languages the plural pronoun is used by a single person who holds high status or a monarch. English also uses the same thing, when the queen or king of Britain talk they'll use the royal we, us or our.

[@Madara-Uchiha]

@@ridzuan94 DONT USE LOGIC AND REASONING ON THEM. They are allergic to that.

[@JChristIsRisen]

He worshipped God, and prayed to God, Jesus is God, so yes. If you don’t believe I can show you every time Jesus says he is God.

[@Madara-Uchiha]

@@JChristIsRisen He worshipped and prayed to god is exactly the contradiction the world has been trying to make you aware of. Now you come along and manage to utter this very unlogical statement into one sentence and portray it as if it was an argument FOR trinity. YOU OK BRO????? It takes all my desire to further elaborate with people as delluded as you. I might aswell just start to talk to a brick wall. Why would he worship God if he himself IS GOD?

[@seamaftab]

I have a lot of questions for about the trinity... 1. If Jesus is God, and God Died for human's sins... Then how is God still here? And if God is still here, then what is the point of sacrificing your own self if it is not permanent? 2. If father, son and holy spirit all are one, how did one die and the other two lived? 3. If God can do everything, why does he have to beget a son, send him to us, sacrifice him to show love? Can't he just forgive the people? These are the beginning.. I have so much more questions

[@JohnAlamo-pq3bv]

Christianity is NOT monotheistic!

[@Sewerwoman]

It is

[@ArabianAtheist57]

Im an atheist and even i know that Christianity is monotheistic

[@remz7619]

@@ArabianAtheist57you as an Arab atheist know nothing my friend. Leave the discussion to non Arab atheists and ESPECIALLY western Christian dominated lands atheists. You have a severe bias just by the fact you are an Arab. You will say the most ridiculous things so that Islam is undermined. In this case you don’t want people to know Islam (the religion of your race) is the only true monotheist religion. You are more than likely ex Muslim so even while being atheist you will defend a religion (Christianity) but criticise Islam in the same breath. Hypocrite and liar!

[@zm4261]

@@ArabianAtheist57 They believe in 3 distinctly separate eternal entities, how is that not 3 gods apart from them just asserting it's 1 god? If someone shows me 3 tables and tells me it's 1 table why should i accept they are right?

[@Madara-Uchiha]

​​@@ArabianAtheist57Like, it really doesn't matter what you are. Your opinion is NOT an argument. Bring up some arguments and we can talk. Otherwise your opinion is useless to this conversation

[@Valkaze111]

Short answer no. Reason: Cause one can’t contradict the teachings and abolish while adding the laws that came from one another.

[@Legion1448]

Alright, i keep hearing people say "god exists as three equal beings 🤓☝️" when literally it's easier to say "shi, that's God's mind body, and spirit", like no hate on Christianity but think more basic. Stop complicating your religion.

[@JChristIsRisen]

No that’s partialism, it’s blasphemy and heretic. Repent. 3 distinct persons (hypostasis) united in will, dignity, and adoration, that all make up one God.

[@Legion1448]

@@JChristIsRisen blud, is not "the holy spirit " called God's spirit?

[@JChristIsRisen]

@@Legion1448 again… that’s partialism. 3 distinct persons united in dignity, will, adoration, that make up one God. It’s not that hard to understand home dawg.

[@Legion1448]

@@JChristIsRisen 🦧fr, makes more sense🙏please tell me a "monotheistic " god exist in three distinct beings

[@Legion1448]

Also you're literally a mind body, and spirit it not like I'm comparing God to "ultron" as being 3 separate beings coming together

[@wraves693]

The number of people who swear that Christianity is not monotheistic scares me, I mean if the argument is that this was a crazy invention of the church, then why they would propagate such a confusing doctrine instead of just stating that there are 3 Gods? Not to mention that Jesus in Matthew 28:19 strictly says "Go and Baptize all the nations in the name of the FATHER, SON AND HOLY GHOST" the same Jesus who believed in only one God, there is no mystery, just a question of read using the eyes. After all, the gospel of Matthew was written by Matthew bruh, one of the apostles who lived with Jesus personally, whether true or false he still has more value than Muhammad who arrived 500 years after Jesus, and his affirmation of having "divine revelation", doesn’t help his case much, and if you want to say that the Bible was corrupted, what a shame, because the dead sea documents when compared with our interpretation of the Bible show that in fact there were no changes, even Allah himself in the Quran confirms this in the passages 02:41, 02:42, 05:46, 05:47, 07:157.

[@Polish_Ortodox_Knight]

To every Muslim here claiming that we have 3 gods/we are pagans/we are wrong: if someone is islamophob, that's terrible, why do you spread Christianophobia then?

[@Shikaari1]

Early Christians were Unitarians

[@British-Patriot]

You mean the Early Church Fathers?

[@brittnotheidiot7036]

No they weren’t. The idea of Unitarianism was founded in 1774

[@user-zd8rs1uv8n]

We Muslims worship the creator i.e ALLAH While the idol worshiping pagan Christians worship the creation i.e jesus pbuh

[@JChristIsRisen]

Idol worshipping. I know you guys are iconoclasts but cmon, we do not worship idols. We venerate Icons but do not worship them, same with saints. We Worship one God made up of 3 hypostasis, united in will, dignity, and adoration.

[@user-zd8rs1uv8n]

@@JChristIsRisen haha you bow down to man made status you worship a jewish human being claming he is god. Who was executed by his own creation while crying out o god o god why have u forsaken me lol the illogical logic of a idol worshiping pagan. I think you should look up what blasphemy is buddy

[@Joshua-pr4mz]

If any muslim here thinks Christianity is derived from paganism, then ur half right cuz catholicsm has idol worship while protestenism doesnt. And also muslims i respect ur religion but dont mock mine by saying its paganism, cuz ive seen many muslims worshipping idols, especially in Darghas here and India and what is done at the Kabba

[@zahidmalek6907]

Islam don,t told them to do that they are doing by themselves out of their foolishness. We believe in one almighty God.

[@mathi1220]

Catholics do not worship idols

[@brittnotheidiot7036]

Catholics don’t have idol worship

[@benissa.]

The God of Jesus is the same as the God of Islam. The God of the Christian church isn't the God of Jesus.

[@MonicaRizkalla]

I’m a Christian ❤😊 and that is true

[@whoelseeverdiedforyou1737]

Therefore can one not conclude the Islamic God calls the Biblical God a liar?

[@Weinwalter7]

If trinity is the same body as one why Jesus have to call to the Father if he can just do it for himself?

[@JChristIsRisen]

Adding to what the other guy said, Prayer is a form of holy communication as well.

[@baranbeatzz_real]

I was just reading Quran and literally asked myself this exact question 10 minutes ago. I thought „well, don’t Christianity and Islam believe in the same god and what is the difference?“

[@bannangcocomong8081]

See how you stumbled upon this video after asking yourself that. Now do you see the difference between modern Christianity vs Islam?

[@JChristIsRisen]

We believe in different Gods, if you deny Christ we do not believe in the same God.

[@emilywinn-khan6988]

Actually only new testement Christians see God in 3 ways.. First Christians worshipped the one/oneness of God

[@BoxingParadise2603]

Christians: All persons of the trinity are equal 😅 *Also God the Father having more importance and authority over the other 2 persons of the trinity*

[@stevedavis7561]

We need the greek gods back they were cool

[@carlosjelly665]

How can three different minds be one person?

[@wardchute851]

Dont compare catholicism beliefs to protestants. Christianity is wide spread!!!!!!

[@albionpetoku3844]

You said that the son the father and the holy spirit are in one body but that is absolutely incorrect and is not said or implied no where in the sciriptures

[@JChristIsRisen]

That is completely false. Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:14, Ephesians 4:4-6, 1 Peter 1:2, and Revelation 1:4-6. I can go on.

[@albionpetoku3844]

Those back the trinity but they don't say that they are all in one body

[@thecommenter.8185]

Remember surah Al-Ikhlas

[@The_islamic_godzilla]

At the end of the Quran the final reminder to people when they finish the Quran that god/Allah is one with no partners and he is the all-powerful

[@Jahongr-ie1ur]

God is only one only God is Alloh. and Jeasus is a prophet that we love

[@xcaliber4141]

If he exists 3 different bodies how is he is the same

[@Sewerwoman]

Hypostates❤

[@ArabianAtheist57]

Muslims when they are asked to understand the trinity challenge (impossible)

[@Madara-Uchiha]

​@@ArabianAtheist57Meaning christians understand it And when asked they bluntly say: "Gods ways are sometimes unexplainable" ---End of the Conversation--- 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ibrahimahm3d]

@@ArabianAtheist57You mean everyone

[@thechief3029]

Muslims, ripping off pagan fables and stone kissing isnt monotheist and Trinity is in the old testament Isaiah 48 and Proverbs 30.

[@IbrahimAbdur-Rahman-mt2hu]

Bro forgot Christmas was originally the pagan festival of light 😭🤦

[@thechief3029]

@@IbrahimAbdur-Rahman-mt2hu Bro forgot walking 7 times around the Kaaba is pagan. Bro forgot that Allah did nothing to combat Christianity for 600 years or preserve the "original" words of Jesus. Bro forgot that Christmas isn't mandatory for Christianity.

[@IbrahimAbdur-Rahman-mt2hu]

@thechief Bro forgot walking around the Kaaba was practiced by the Jews before the pagans. Bro forgot that the Quran was sent down by Allah to correct the bible. Bro forgot that different sects of Christianity believe different things about Christmas 😭😭🤣😭😭

[@thechief3029]

@@IbrahimAbdur-Rahman-mt2hu Bro forgot Jewish history, the Kaaba had no importance before Muhammad came. Bro forgot that Allah failed to protect the original injeel🤣🤣🤣🤣.

[@IbrahimAbdur-Rahman-mt2hu]

@thechief bro forgot that the Kaaba was once one of the Most holy places for Jews until the paganistic Arabs conquered it, bro forgot that Jews were banned from going near the Kaaba until Islam took it from the pagan Arabs, bro forgot that the only reason Jews practicing Judaism can’t go to the Kaaba now is because the Jewish tribes betrayed the Muslims during the battle of the trench- which was against those same paganistic Arab tribes. 🤣🤣🤣

[@Shikaari1]

Paul marketed the Trinity and plagiarised it from paganism

[@JChristIsRisen]

Totally false, he was a disciple of Peter… who told him. ( I think it was Peter correct me if I am wrong)

[@brittnotheidiot7036]

No he didn’t

[@luxither7354]

To those who think God cannot become a man: do you think that the All Powerful Creator can do everything? Are you setting limits to God. In the 99 names of Allah, Allah is named the loving one. If Allah is the loving one, by nature (Quran 7:180), who does he love before creation? Who did he love before man?

[@_2kmira_]

He loved our angels. He loved our souls before birthed into human form. He loved himself. He loved Heaven. He loved the skies. He loved the seas. He loved the stars. He loved the moon. He loved what HE created. Your the one setting limits to God by saying he needs to be in 3 different forms. Allah translates to God because Allah is god.

[@_2kmira_]

He doesn't need a partner or to be divided.

[@_2kmira_]

Even yourself is doing research about the Quran. I have no hate to Christians but one day I hope I find out the truth. Have a lovely life and live happily.

[@tadzyxd1190]

And why did god die? Why didn't he stay on earth out of his love ? Stop arguing with god and worship him alone so you may sussed.

[@ibrahimahm3d]

Allah can’t love the future things also you don’t need to have something to be loving

[@UNITYNanaAlienSoulUK]

Yes is Enity. People qrite books and people misread books. Then they takenout pages and say what they Want.

[@Jesusiscomingback-jc8nf]

It is monotheistic two you said parts that’s the heresy of partialism or sons he is eternally begotten he doesn’t have partners the 3 persons are 100% God

[@JChristIsRisen]

Thank you for clarifying that, and bringing Up partialism

[@rhkn7188]

Jesus was essence Hebrew and abraham too was a Hebrew . This is belief of druze Judaism and Christianity

[@valeejup4300]

They definitely arent

[@siam8603]

This dude is saying christianity is monotheistic? What?

[@brittnotheidiot7036]

It literally is

[@LordSousukeaizen]

Om Namah Shivaiya

[@html-clay-group4709]

No one wants to listen to that

[@remz7619]

This is not the space for you pagan mumbo jumbo Hindu boy..

[@Joshua-pr4mz]

😂😂😂it's nice to see someone different while everyone else is arguing

[@JChristIsRisen]

You got everything quite correct about Christianity and the Trinity, other than the Holy spirit. He only proceeds from the father.

[@seraph.919]

The father is not the son and the son is not the holy spirit, 1+1+1= 1 🤯

[@JChristIsRisen]

3 distinct not separate persons that make up one God. Not that hard to understand. Just because you appeal to your own misunderstanding doesn’t make it not true. This is called a personal incredulity fallacy. 3 hypostasis equal in will, dignity, and adoration that make up one God.

[@Jack-ep2xt]

How are you making fun of Christianity when your pfp is a major Christian character

[@seraph.919]

@@Jack-ep2xt I'm not making fun of Christianity, I'm saying the trinity is bullshit + i like baldwin

[@seraph.919]

@@JChristIsRisen are they coequal co eternal?

[@brittnotheidiot7036]

@@seraph.919the teaching of Christianity is literally derived from the trinity. How is it bullshit

[@JustIssybee]

I’m confused now….

[@rasyidihramsyah7992]

Greek pantheon, Hindu Triad and christian trinity It's all the same to me 🤷🏻‍♂️, they are pagans

[@JChristIsRisen]

Uh ok. You are blind if and not willing to accept Christ?

[@Joshua-pr4mz]

Right ok. Come to India I've seen some Muslims worship idols at darghas

[@user-zu3wd4rk3n]

You couldn't be more wrong

[@timesup8196]

No

[@princeofdarkness9088]

No

[@timesup8196]

In writings it says Allah asked God for divine help! God sent the She camel and Jews killed her!! Thanks Allah means Master, Our Master!!

[@Ibbs200]

What are you even saying It doesn't even make sense

[@Ibbs200]

Prophet Salih had a she camel but Allah asking God for help even though Allah is the 1 true God you not really making sense

[@Ibbs200]

You honestly just wrote the most random sentences that came to your mind

[@AP_170]

No your incorrect

[@Ibbs200]

Explain

[@GodoyTitan]

Christianity is an abrahamic religion , not Islam , not even close.

[@this_world.s_test]

Jews don't believe in Christianity. They think Jesus is a dumb guy, but he isn't cursed but loved by Muslims. You just paul mixed paganism with Abraham religion and it's called Christianity now 😅 you said worship messenger (Jesus) and said he's equal to God while he never said that in the judgment day he will be asked that "did you ask ppl to worship you" and he will say "no" " my lord you know what is in me but i don't know what is in ur" don't make him sinner he was pure messenger to corrupted jews

[@this_world.s_test]

Jews don't believe in Christianity. They think Jesus is a dumb guy, but he isn't cursed but loved by Muslims. You just paul mixed paganism with Abraham religion and it's called Christianity now you said worship messenger (Jesus) and said he's equal to God while he never said that in the judgment day he will be asked that "did you ask ppl to worship you" and he will say "no" " my lord you know what is in me but i don't know what is in ur" don't make him sinner he was pure messenger to corrupted jews

[@godsservant1109]

Bad joke

[@albionpetoku3844]

You said that the son the father and the holy spirit are in one body but that is absolutely incorrect and is not said or implied no where in the sciriptures