Chrollo’s Pain and Burden HxH Chapter 397

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APeester Anime

APeester Anime

Жыл бұрын

This is one of if not the best hunter x hunter chapters I've ever read. The art dialogue story and emotion all add up to be a chapter of absolute perfection. I believe this chapter puts Togashi's strength as an artist and writer on its best display. Just going over the chapter and diving into it could never do justice to the intensity and quality of this chapter. I really can't wait to see what comes next and recently it's felt that each chapter Togashi surpasses the quality of the last.
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@josiahlikestodance
@josiahlikestodance Жыл бұрын
This chapter made Chrollo make more sense to me. A child who took responsibility for the loss of another child. There was no adult to come in and tell him that responsibility is beyond him to bear. Really his only guidance is the other kids around him, and even all of them look to him for answers. He must have snapped mentally. Because this child still feels he needs to take responsibility for his friends death. Every little thing they found on the way to her body were all just hammers beating into his head that it was all his fault. This event surely broke any innocence in him, and with all that blame to bear we see him sacrifice whatever innocence he had left.
@spiraltriggerex
@spiraltriggerex Жыл бұрын
He reminds me heavily of Shinobu Sensui. Dealt with huge trauma that broke him, so he changed his mentally in order to navigate the world he’s more aware he’s in. Difference is that Sensui split his personality in order to shield his more innocent self while Chrollo was already great at tapping into different emotions and used that to almost distance himself from getting to personal or close.
@lavellelee5734
@lavellelee5734 Жыл бұрын
@@spiraltriggerex sounds interesting
@abominationdesolation8322
@abominationdesolation8322 Жыл бұрын
@@spiraltriggerex Well he is drawn quite a lot like Sensui, especially in certain chapters/panels. He even does some of the same poses.
@mtorrestwitterfaceyo
@mtorrestwitterfaceyo Жыл бұрын
I literally only trust your videos. Any other KZbinr just summarizes the chapter. But you do so much more, you bring up things in the past chapters, make connections with theories and have a much more profound discussion. Waiting for your videos each week is part of my routine.
@LevianPeace
@LevianPeace Жыл бұрын
Same. Some of the HxH Ytubers don't even do the weekly chapter anymore.
@dontayz99
@dontayz99 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for more character analysis
@duki8616
@duki8616 Жыл бұрын
nah, he painfully over analysis stuff and misses bigger details. Like the tree thing....thats just how togashi draws trees my dude
@SonGoku-qn1nc
@SonGoku-qn1nc Жыл бұрын
@@duki8616 Nah fam
@duki8616
@duki8616 Жыл бұрын
@@SonGoku-qn1nc ya fam
@agustin12689
@agustin12689 Жыл бұрын
The woman who talked with Machi said that Machi had Beautyful Eyes and she hate it (and we know who has the most beautiful Eyes in Hunter x Hunter, the Kurta Clan). And said woman is implied to be the person who made them Nen Users. Maybe their final "exam" was killing the Kurta. So they decided to make a plan using Sheila as a decoy.
@Wumbo85
@Wumbo85 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if she preserved all the eyes in jars with that embalming ability.
@WardofSquid
@WardofSquid Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, could you imagine
@mrt445
@mrt445 Жыл бұрын
Doubt it. Maybe someone in the Kurta clan had something to do with Sarasa's killing
@dombond6515
@dombond6515 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is definitely a good possibility
@TheLastCrow5150
@TheLastCrow5150 10 ай бұрын
I think the clan was killed off by the troupe because Tserriednich wanted the eyes whom he found out about through Sheila. Tserriednich (and maybe Sheila) convinced the Troupe that the Kurta killed Satasa. In exchange for intel, Tserriednich promises them a large number of eyes after if they pull it off. As for Piro, I think the Troupe would've taken him to Tserriednich to see what he wanted to do with a ind Kurta. Tserriednich saw Piro was one of a kind and cut off Piro's head since a blind Kurta would've been one of a kind. I see Kurapika and Chrolla finding out the truth and joining forces to kill Tserriednich. Togashi probably has a much better plot line that'll leave us all shocked.
@cynthiawu7170
@cynthiawu7170 Жыл бұрын
I think Machi actually could see aura earlier. When Chrollo went villain mode in the fan dub (I still love that they were fan dubbing!) and had what looked like aura around him, the entire crowd felt something. As Chrollo was channeling an evil aggressive feeling, the children felt fear and awe. Similar to when Gon and Killua could feel things before they knew what nen was (Hisoka's aura, Wing's aura). Only 2 kids did not look scared or shocked. Machi, who looked nonchalant, like this was not unusual. And Nobunaga who was smiling. It is not clear if Nobunaga could see aura or just actually enjoyed the feeling of attack aura even if he had no idea what it was. But since Machi was indifferent, it likely means she has seen and felt this before. This would also mean that Chrollo unknowingly unlocked his aura prior to the trauma too but interestingly it was while playing the villain and not one of the rangers. I would agree though that it was this iconic scene of horror and tragedy that would shape HOW these kids developed their abilities regardless of when each individual one discovered nen/aura. And it was definitely after this event that they all started to know and understand what aura and nen are.
@mr.G1F
@mr.G1F Жыл бұрын
😐😖🤣😂🤦‍♂️
@victordeluca7360
@victordeluca7360 Жыл бұрын
@@mr.G1F 🤖
@josiahlikestodance
@josiahlikestodance Жыл бұрын
The “beautiful eyes” line feels like she was reflecting on how innocent these children are and yet she just had to reconstruct one that may or may not have had their eyes brutalized. I do think it’s fascinating that Machi is this nen prodigy, and I wouldn’t mind a one shot of that backstory or something. I just picture her relaying all the info she learned to Chrollo and him creating some nen learning program for the spiders that’s super streamlined and efficient.
@kaezaklimber3391
@kaezaklimber3391 Жыл бұрын
You missed the whole crowd surprising Chrollo on effortlessly and joyously joining the search team for Sarasa, without a single complaint about the cancelling of the show. There was the most pure emotion of suprise coming from Chrollo and you didnt mention it. It is such an important event 'cause that shows how not only the Genei Ryodan were connected emotionally but all the city was vibrating at the same energy. BTW Togashi is challenging the anxiety in all of us.
@misunderstoodmadman6230
@misunderstoodmadman6230 Жыл бұрын
This is also very significant for the phantom's powers. A lot of them feels like a reflection of the trauma that this event made.
@francois47achan
@francois47achan Жыл бұрын
Ohhh how so??
@misunderstoodmadman6230
@misunderstoodmadman6230 Жыл бұрын
@@francois47achan It could be a reach ofc but: Pako created the power to read minds to confirm the killer. Feitan wanted retribution to the abuse that was given to her friend. Machi wants to rebuilt her Uvo became a weapon of vengeance Shalnark controls people so this never happens again. Chrollo gave up on is individuality as a human to reach the killer But i can't find anything for phinks and franklyn so, again, could be a reach, fun thought non the less
@francois47achan
@francois47achan Жыл бұрын
@@misunderstoodmadman6230 Ahhhhh that’s a pretty dope way of looking at it - like every members Nen ability would be a way of rectifying the harm or a way of retribution or prevention of the event…Nice dude I agree
@agustin12689
@agustin12689 Жыл бұрын
I think that The Kurta Clan discovered that Sheila had found the Village so they paid Silva to kill her in the hopes of the secret location not being revealed. But that made the Spiders wanting revenge, so they killed the Kurta Clan.
@apeesteranime2956
@apeesteranime2956 Жыл бұрын
Ooohhhhhh that would be wild I like your thinking
@GhostFhoenix
@GhostFhoenix Жыл бұрын
Wouldnt that mean someone ratted the Kurta hiring Silva to kill for them. I dont think the Zoldycs or anybody who knows them will do that.. also, contacting another outsider to do a dirty job for you pretty much exposes you more...
@dylankudaibergenov8279
@dylankudaibergenov8279 Жыл бұрын
One thing that bugs me is Uvo's response/reaction to Kurapika during their fight. "Those eyes were beautiful. The boss really likes them." And Uvo's reaction is excitement, not a pissed/angry Uvo if it really was for revenge.
@oscarjihadhoussin
@oscarjihadhoussin Жыл бұрын
Sheila is not that strong that need Silva to be hired to kill her..... the Kurta could easily kill her once they know that she located them however still Sheila is not dead.
@africanotaku6077
@africanotaku6077 Жыл бұрын
Also didn't Silva say that he almost died trying to kill a spider or something? If that's the case I don't think Sheila is strong enough to threaten the life of Silva Zoldyk
@ashleycoburn9770
@ashleycoburn9770 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Togashi wanted to show us how much of a Nen prodigy Machi. Not that the Spiders awoken their Nen.
@forestfafa8597
@forestfafa8597 Жыл бұрын
My theory is the troupe massacre the kurta clan in order to get the informations. so here is the question what information that they want the most? - who killed sarasa - who was behind the kidnapping crimes those murderers took pictures as their crime’s reward which they think is an art to them, and there are bunch of people in this series that like to collecting art. maybe those murderer’s boss are one of them. so in order to get the information of that person (or group) and to get close to the person behind it, chrollo need to bring something that can interested them, and the kurta scarlet eyes are an answer. then why the troupe had to left the meteor city’s motto note after the massacre? I think it’s because they want an evidence that they are the one who did it, to show the world that they are the one whom responsible for. chrollo himself said that he gonna kill a lot of people from now on and he surely made this heavy declaration in such a young age. he is the type of person that when he made his mind, he gonna go all the way for it no matter what the process is. that’s why the dialogue in those dubs are something like “…begrime, get dirty, living in filth” it’s not some ordinary power rengers story like we used to see but it is power rengers ‘cleaner’ In order to get cleaned you need yourself to be the dirty one
@WTFBustahBrown
@WTFBustahBrown Жыл бұрын
Man these vids are def a treat to watch. You’re def gonna blow up more from doing these consistently and analyzing these new chapters
@porcus123
@porcus123 Жыл бұрын
I would really like a connection between the 4th prince and the murderers of their friend, It would be nice to see what kurapika would do if he had to team up with either side to fight the other and the complications. That or everyone going postal on each other.
@osmandoherrera4183
@osmandoherrera4183 Жыл бұрын
Dude, that mother analogy for the spiders was SPOT ON.
@dombond6515
@dombond6515 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THESE VIDEOS. I DONT EVEN READ THE CHAPTER TIL I WATCH YOUR VIDEO. BECAUSE YOUR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB!
@GuruMDT
@GuruMDT Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the analysis! You're becoming one of my go-to reviewers for HxH. I enjoy your hearing your perspective on these latest chapters. Keep up the great work man!
@Avitymist
@Avitymist 11 ай бұрын
god I love hxh so much
@amonhmcoda
@amonhmcoda 11 ай бұрын
I can’t stop reading it I just love it so much
@abominationdesolation8322
@abominationdesolation8322 Жыл бұрын
Jews tend to have kinky hair and afros too. It's not just a black thing. Uvogin isn't black. What a weird hill to die on.
@DaedalusR
@DaedalusR Жыл бұрын
You should’ve known he was a libtard the second you heard this “dudes” soy voice
@abominationdesolation8322
@abominationdesolation8322 Жыл бұрын
@@DaedalusR based fellow anime enthusiast.
@MonkeyKingEric
@MonkeyKingEric Жыл бұрын
Rewatching York New is going to hit different. Especially Kurapika vs Uvo and the Requiem.
@Blah2000Blah
@Blah2000Blah Жыл бұрын
This chapter makes the Sheila theory stronger. It would appear that Shiela wanted the Troop to be blamed after getting the Kurta killed. Another interesting thing is that Sheila wasn't going to play the next villain in their voice-overs.
@PlanetaryPluto
@PlanetaryPluto Жыл бұрын
I disagree with the humanising argument. Sure. That forest scene was some seriously heavy stuff but it's not the only bit of humanising they get. The one I can't get over to this day is just Phinks solemnly looking at Gon and Killua, remembering Paku's memories and her feelings then him saying "Paku... Paku wanted to thank you." That scene alone I think does A LOT to humanise them. Especially Phinks. But there's also Melody's inner dialogue when Kurapika is making a deal with Paku and Chrollo. That she wants the same thing he does - to save her friend. I don't get the distinction you draw being depicting them being humans and humanising but hey.
@jerryokazaki8626
@jerryokazaki8626 Жыл бұрын
Since Chrollo doesn't want what happen to ever happen again like with their friend It's still confusing to think they would massacre the Red Eye Village heartlessly so there has to be something beneath the surface we haven't understood about the spiders but my best guess based off this chapter is that probably Female Pierceton Rat might just get a kick out of making those he/she loves to feel absolute pain and simply got the spiders involved in some messed up way
@agustin12689
@agustin12689 Жыл бұрын
Or maybe Sheila isn't Pariston but because she was very close to the Kurta Village the Leaders of the Kurta Clan paid Silva to kill her. But that made the Spider kill the Kurta with the note saying the Moto of Meteor City because the Kurta took Sheila from them.
@klauskrampus4344
@klauskrampus4344 Жыл бұрын
This was the best HxH chapter 397 review I've seen.
@apeesteranime2956
@apeesteranime2956 Жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you
@mashtonish
@mashtonish Жыл бұрын
If Sheila becomes Pariston, my mind will be blown. Also, Chrollo clad in black at 39:35 is so visually distinct from the rest of the scene.
@more_lali9042
@more_lali9042 Жыл бұрын
The background and atmosphere of this chapter is so good
@stephanhart9941
@stephanhart9941 Жыл бұрын
A Requiem for Uvogin is a must-rewatch after this chapter!!!
@richboy12ify
@richboy12ify Жыл бұрын
I disagree with you about the humanization of the troupe, you don't need to have a long deep back story for you to feel something for the them. The writing is impeccable that anything the western style of writing could come up with for an antogonistic group cause on their side they believe in their cause and you have a western moral bias
@nagorepalaciosdelafuente
@nagorepalaciosdelafuente Жыл бұрын
I already had Chrollo and the Phantom Troupe as my favorites even before all this new information, but now it's even more perfect
@thousandstar
@thousandstar Жыл бұрын
You can feel your passion in these videos
@jarnodatema
@jarnodatema Жыл бұрын
That’s why wears a St. Peters cross on the back of his coat. St. Peter felt unworthy of being crucified like Jesus, so he requested to be hung upside down. Chrollo knows that what he does is evil and is unworthy of forgiven for this by his dead friend.
@Franpowah
@Franpowah 11 ай бұрын
I had not noticed Sheila walking away was heading toward darkness, nice catch! Who would've thought they are the spiders because they turned Meteor city into a web trap.
@snuggie12
@snuggie12 Жыл бұрын
I guess not humanizing, but I think people felt the PT redeemed themselves a bit when they defend their city from the ants. It makes them as anti-heroes or something like that. Are they humanized after this chapter though? They should know that the death of one person's life matters because of their experience but they slaughter many instead. The twist that would make sense would be that Uvo doesn't remember slaughtering the Kurta because they never did. Instead they could be framed for it. I'd need to re-watch/read York New, but I'd probably ask this: - Does Chrollo or anyone else respond to the eyes being in the auction's inventory? - Does anyone besides Uvo see Kurapika's eyes? Is there a reaction there? - How about after Pakunoda dies? Should any memories trigger about the clan? I think if they didn't massacre the Kurta then we could assume the PT has only killed bad guys and then I can see them being humanized.
@starkad19
@starkad19 Жыл бұрын
You think Sheila was able to read that note in the forest too? Afterall she's obsessed with a book and is able to read it to pairo and kurapika. If what was written was able to cause happy-go-lucky chrollo turn into a brooding machievllian imagine what it would do to sheila, who probably had a much closer relationship to sarasa than anyone else in the troupe. If you wanna go down the pariston-sheila theory than what better explanation for paristons personality than something this traumatic happening when he was a kid
@apeesteranime2956
@apeesteranime2956 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh I hadn’t even thought about it this way but you’re totally right. Pariston Sheila theory aside it would make sense if she was able to read the letter as well as Sarasa’s death hurting her way more.
@shimaalcarrim7949
@shimaalcarrim7949 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video my man
@stickydoodle8198
@stickydoodle8198 Жыл бұрын
8:30 My god. You can see it his face. In his eyes. That man’s spirit is broken. he’s both done and seen horrendous things. That’s the face of someone who says their mental health is fine and in a good place when in reality, they’re really not.
@demzgotcha
@demzgotcha Жыл бұрын
Now we knew why they killed a lot of mafia in yorknew city lol
@jimihendrix23456
@jimihendrix23456 Жыл бұрын
6:40 The word you're looking for is charismatic. He's a goofy and puny kid, but he's caring, and smart, and puts in the effort for his goals so easily and willingly that the others can't help but join in with him. Charisma is also one of the main traits of Specialists in Hisoka's personality test.
@nagorepalaciosdelafuente
@nagorepalaciosdelafuente Жыл бұрын
As you said, Specialist are independent individuals that are so charismatic that are usually surrounded by other people, of course this doesn't apply to everyone as Hisoka himself say it but it's a good detail
@jren86
@jren86 Жыл бұрын
Hisoka definitely hit chrollos nerves by hanging sharlnarks corpse to be found 💀💀
@cash2088
@cash2088 Жыл бұрын
Those instances were indeed humanizing the troupe, you spent an inordinate amount of time parsing and splitting hairs. While 397 could've wholly humanized the troupe and Chrollo in your eyes it DOESN'T lessen the standard for humanization. Showing grief, remorse, camaraderie, etc, are all valid instances in which their humanity is validated. Thus can all be described as humanization. I'll only agree Ch.397 does this to a further and more understandable degree.
@Silas_Kow
@Silas_Kow Жыл бұрын
Just a comment, since a point is raised in the video (30:16), there is a theory that the Hisoka shown on the ship is Chrollo in disguise using Bonolenov's "Battle Cantabile: Metamorphosen" (Chapter 377), along with "Convert Hands". The way Hisoka was acting, the way he was hiding his hands in his pockets (something customary for Chrollo, but was never done by Hisoka), and the dark clothes he is using, all that leaks of Chrollo. Btw the two most important details in my view are: The way he asks who would win in a contest between him and the troupe is very reminiscent of the question he asks Zeno at the end of their fight, it is even written similarly, even asking for permission to make the question; And the way he subtly retracts his hands when he's about to grab the VVIP ticket (if he is using the "Convert Hands" he will have to keep his palm hidden), even though it's pretty simple there's a panel just for the hand and another to emphasize the gesture. The theory even goes so far as to say that his bookmark "Double Face" would probably have a restriction like "I can't lie" since in his time on the boat he always deviated from stating that he really is Hisoka, but that's more of a detail. then a central point of theory. (English is a language that I'm not fluent in, sorry for any writing error)
@mr.G1F
@mr.G1F Жыл бұрын
rofl why would chrollo disguised himself as hisoka when their 1st priority is to find him ? and as i recalled this theory has a similarity of illumi that he was hisoka in disguise for the reason of his gesture and outfit mannerism etc.. but in the end it was just all a typical wrong theory 🤣
@Silas_Kow
@Silas_Kow Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with trying to dream a little, getting carried away is the best part of reading.
@mr.G1F
@mr.G1F Жыл бұрын
@@natesamadhi33 shizuku and bonolenov team up with chrolo cuz they know they have no chance against hisoka and as far as we know chrolo won't allowed to fall one one of his member again. shizuku ask Chrolo to used one of his ability to read his furtune once again cuz pretty sure she want to see if hisoka would kill her 1st. but chrolo told her he don't posses that ability anymore and that's the time shizuku tell chrolo that that's ok she would just stick to him for her safety.. so their's no way chrolo would took the VIP card and leave bonolenov and shizuku on their own
@kypo7948
@kypo7948 Жыл бұрын
I think that panel of when Chrollo was facing the Troupe is a callback to 114 so I hope we get to see more of that conversation but who knows
@scottjames8973
@scottjames8973 Жыл бұрын
After you go back over every instance of the Troupe in the manga, I recommend watching some videos from the channel Aleczandxr… there are a few videos breaking down specific characters from the troupe and the troupe as a whole. I’m looking forward to your video about the prior humanization or lack there of in the Troupe.
@Xojn
@Xojn Жыл бұрын
Beautifully read. What a chapter.
@stickydoodle8198
@stickydoodle8198 Жыл бұрын
What do you think about the Paraston = Shiela theory? Could it still be true? Look at Shiela’s reactions in 14:02 and in 16:34 it’s almost like she was expecting this. I mean I’m all of them were. But Shiela especially. The two of them could’ve been best friends. And because of that, Shiela/Paraston set off something horrible to happen. And maybe afterward she felt too guilty to stay with the spiders. But she still kept in touch with them which is why she helped them find the kurta village. Or maybe that’s just the way she looks. Lol
@Tanaka.Minoru
@Tanaka.Minoru Жыл бұрын
If you’re actually being serious about the afro comment, you have to be one of the strongest mental gymnasts I’ve ever seen. Whats it like levitating above the rest of us? Even the consideration of presenting an argument opposite of yours is something you won’t consider hearing? Take it easy there Mr. Olympia Before you break something.
@spiraltriggerex
@spiraltriggerex Жыл бұрын
I’m just going to write things down that I started to wonder about after this chapter. Is it possible that the mafia that killed Sarasa was involved in the Kurta massacre with both having a note left behind? Is it possible that the mafia is the Heil-ly or directly connected with them and therefore connected with the fourth Prince? Is it possible that the Troupe is aware that the Heil-ly has ties with the mafia that dealt with Meteor city, but just don’t know what they did behind the scenes. Based on the flashback so far, the troupe are only luring villains to them as a safe haven off the grid to kill them. That makes the Kurta clan massacre seem uncharacteristic unless the troupe saw Shiela’s death similar to how we seen them respond to Uvogin’s death. How would the troupe currently act if they knew the Kurta weren’t involved and potentially the same people who killed Shiela also killed Sarasa? At this moment, no one can pass from tier 3-5 to tier 1 outside of royal guards. We also can expect the Troupe and Kurapika to have an encounter. Is it possible that the one to trigger that encounter is Hisoka? Hisoka knows the Troupe is seeking him and wants to be entertained. If Hisoka knows that Kurapika is on the boat and knows he would want to fight the Troupe as well then maybe Hisoka made himself known on purpose once everyone was on tier 3 only to escape to tier 1. He knows the Troupe, especially Chrollo, will seek him out no matter what. We already seen the Troupe not show much care for the current power structures while playing along to their rules for now. Hisoka could lead the Troupe to tier 1 and cause chaos with the defense of Tier 1 being nonexistent. That can throw off a lot in the succession war and possibly see nen beasts becoming more active in deaths If that were to happen I don’t see it happening until a few more princes die or maybe until 1st Prince dies causing his Royal guards to lax on guarding tier 1
@spiraltriggerex
@spiraltriggerex Жыл бұрын
One more thing Let’s say the Heil-ly were involved in Shiela’s death, Sarasa’s death, and planted the seeds to the Troupe that the Kurta killed Shiela leading to the Kurta massacre. With the Kurta eyes being mainly with the 4th Prince I think it makes a lot of sense that he indirectly through the mafia fed the Troupe a false story that the Kurta killed Shiela even though it was likely the mafia. They used the Troupe to get revenge on the Kurta to not have the massacre on their hands and hurt their reputation then afterwards they steal the eyes with no one knowing their involvement. Sarasa’s death is likely unplanned and just shows how sick the mafia under him are, but Shiela’s death seemed to be planned once they saw what came of the Troupe after Sarasa’s death. If the Troupe found out then will they hold that grudge towards Kurapika knowing that he only killed Uvogin based off their actions that was aimed at his family off the mafia giving false information? Could Kurapika do the same if he knew the backstory of the Troupe and how they both targeting each other only because of false information that spurred on tragedies towards each other. Heil-ly and, most importantly, 4th Prince are the source of both their tragedies, but would Chrollo or Kurapika ignore what each other did to one another to take out the 4th Prince? Even if you could justify their actions, the Troupe directly massacred the Kurta and Kurapika directly killed Uvogin, so the ones pulling the strings may not even matter to them at this point to try and work together to fight 4th Prince
@erubeydarkness
@erubeydarkness Жыл бұрын
We will hear the words in the note at the end of this arc
@amonhmcoda
@amonhmcoda 11 ай бұрын
Don’t count on it lol
@billbosconovitch752
@billbosconovitch752 Жыл бұрын
Do you think sheila is on the boat???
@BankkeyAoshi
@BankkeyAoshi Жыл бұрын
Salute family 💪🏾💙
@killuazoldycke
@killuazoldycke Жыл бұрын
Uvo isn't black, not just in anime but even in real life there are so many races that can have afros,while not being black (Berbers or amazigh/ middle easterns/Egyptians...) And their afros look different than black people's afro and it's possible to straighten it, which is what uvo's hair does. I Know what I'm talking about being amazigh myself
@emanthescripter1076
@emanthescripter1076 Жыл бұрын
Traditional afros are from black people. Kinky hair, me myself being black i know what im talking about. Our hair NATURALLY goes up and forms an afro like shape. Other hair types from other races have to manually form the shape of an afro. Don't speak on things you don't know
@amonhmcoda
@amonhmcoda 11 ай бұрын
You do realize Egyptians are black. They’re literally in Africa. I’m half Egyptian myself, I’m constantly told that part of me isn’t black it literally is. Lol
@amonhmcoda
@amonhmcoda 11 ай бұрын
Talking out of your ass, you lost all credibility when you said Egyptians aren’t black. That’s like saying Nigerians aren’t black, they’re both in Africa.
@xDuuo.
@xDuuo. 6 ай бұрын
Egypt is in Africa, Middle East?? In Africa guv.
@PATRQIT1776
@PATRQIT1776 Жыл бұрын
if they all awakened nen would machi notice the others aura?
@josephpetersen1728
@josephpetersen1728 19 күн бұрын
One of kites friends has a afro too
@GhostFhoenix
@GhostFhoenix Жыл бұрын
The better theory is that the Kuruta was part of a larger conglomeration of clans(an empire perhaps) from the Dark Continent, the positive thing known world humans can get from them is the knowledge of nen or aura manipulation, the Calamity is that they can take over the known world and kill its inhabitants since they are the only ones who had nen.. The kuruta maybe the good ones from that conglomeration who taught humans how to use nen, therefore giving humans a fighting chance, they were however, been left behind by their people due to this betrayal, and yhe humans they helped also shunned them because of the death and destruction their people inflicted.. it may also be the reason why they prefer to be hidden. They want to keep their bloodline pure and their natural affinity to nen not exploited..
@nothinginparticular6419
@nothinginparticular6419 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about who you think will fight who and win? I don't think Kurapika and Chrollo will fight because of the similarities of their stories. I think it will be Tserriednich vs Kurapika Chrollo vs Hisoka Idk who will take Morena..Illumi? Lol Togashi said all the phantom troupe ends so who do you think the pairings will be for battle?
@kingeli0860
@kingeli0860 Жыл бұрын
new subscriber !
@mrt445
@mrt445 Жыл бұрын
We've already forgotten about the whale arc after this chapter.
@peteardGreatestRacist
@peteardGreatestRacist Жыл бұрын
Ye the grieving over uvo I saw as humanizing, it made me see them as bros. I see both sides tho. I mean I saw meruem as humanized as well and he was an ant
@knight64art
@knight64art Жыл бұрын
I completely agree Uvo is black 🤷🏾‍♂️ that fro is all the proof I need
@que4382
@que4382 Жыл бұрын
Why does it matter lol
@jfjgbjxkdb3285
@jfjgbjxkdb3285 Жыл бұрын
Are the spiders gonna die in the ship or the dark continent? Wasn't that confirmed. And also did gon loose his ability to use Nen?
@nagorepalaciosdelafuente
@nagorepalaciosdelafuente Жыл бұрын
That is up to Togashi, but if you want to know in 2013, he gave an interview that said that Kurapika along with the Phantom Troupe were all gonna die, it can be a joke or something serious, we only have to wait, Togashi always loves chaos in his stories and that's why he loves Hisoka so much, cause it gaves him tha chaotic element he needs, about Gon he had a conversation with his father and he mentioned he wasn't able to use nen, Ging said that when he made that pact with his nen in order to defeat Pitou he paid a prize, so in order to have nen again Ging said that another prize must be paid as well
@aleef133
@aleef133 Жыл бұрын
Is there going to be another chapter next week? Or is it hiatus again
@SevoraLF
@SevoraLF Жыл бұрын
Hiatus after 3 more chapters
@aleef133
@aleef133 Жыл бұрын
@@SevoraLF Ahh I see. Thanks
@rezonxthepiggert9647
@rezonxthepiggert9647 Жыл бұрын
@@aleef133 We don't know that about the hiatus.
@SevoraLF
@SevoraLF Жыл бұрын
@@rezonxthepiggert9647 don’t set yourself up for disappointment. Just hope it’s a shorter hiatus.
@torresmoblade
@torresmoblade Жыл бұрын
Well, Togashi lost his father in 16/11, it's possible the manga may have a short hiatus.
@christopheribarra1170
@christopheribarra1170 3 ай бұрын
It's kind of sad because, technically, Chrollo was only defending himself from Hisoka, but because he failed to kill him, members of his troupe ended up dead. So he still is like "this world is merciless to us" etc.
@agustin12689
@agustin12689 Жыл бұрын
So the member that Silva killed was Sheila now that we know Sarasa died before the Phantom Troupe was formed?
@torresmoblade
@torresmoblade Жыл бұрын
This is a great question.
@duki8616
@duki8616 Жыл бұрын
It wasnt twisted up and stuffed. She was dismembered (you can tell by her left hand being by her right side in the bag). Remember the women who came in to restore her body? she probably had the same power as Machi and is the one who taught it to her. Either that women or machi taught the rest of the troupe about nen
@najthesavior4286
@najthesavior4286 Жыл бұрын
The real traumatizing thing about it is that she probably endured all that pain, smiling and forgiving those who did that to her.
@duki8616
@duki8616 Жыл бұрын
@@najthesavior4286 uhhh. no she didnt...the fuck? weirdest head-canon i ever read
@ghrtfhfgdfnfg
@ghrtfhfgdfnfg 9 ай бұрын
No@@najthesavior4286
@pattou2175
@pattou2175 Жыл бұрын
You are right about being wrong. They happen humanize since their start. They were not played as mindless killers or people who would still for the hell of it. They were given reasons for their actions all the way back in New York City
@amonhmcoda
@amonhmcoda 11 ай бұрын
Ballin
@NonAryanDuck
@NonAryanDuck Жыл бұрын
Bruh, there are so many potential opponents for Gyro: Gon, Chrollo, Leorio. Mans is really becoming an end of series threat
@SuperAlphaKirby
@SuperAlphaKirby Жыл бұрын
To be honest to me this isn't enough of an explanation for how chrollo became the monster he is. Sure, maybe searching for the poachers did lead him to dark places, but seeing how pure he was at heart, i cant seem to get myself to understand how he could become so cruel..
@stephengilmore3835
@stephengilmore3835 Жыл бұрын
If you don’t understand how the brutal, senseless, unprovoked, murder of a love one; who wanted nothing else but to bring joy to the world can make a monster then you are the best among us.
@SuperAlphaKirby
@SuperAlphaKirby Жыл бұрын
@@stephengilmore3835 listen don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure chrollo lost all faith in humanity with sarasas death, but I'm just confused as to where the sadistic nature of the troupe appeared from.
@stephengilmore3835
@stephengilmore3835 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperAlphaKirby well I would guess their violent nature can be explained by the environment they were raised in. But the sadistic part idk 🤷🏾‍♂️. Maybe creating the dark web turn them cold to everyone else’s pain but their own.
@cash2088
@cash2088 Жыл бұрын
The Nazi example only displays that you are confusing "humanization" with "justification" which aren't interchangeable in many contexts. Just to further clarify, many german soldiers were indeed humanized and met with both victims and enemies. These people came to understand each other as HUMAN but it never justified their actions in the war. Justification on the other hand is the act deeming acts just due to uncontrollable circumstance or acts rendered just by circumstance. The Uvogin, Pakunoda, Shalnark displays offered no justification but it can't be said their grief wasn't humanizing, we ALL can relate to grief.
@cash2088
@cash2088 Жыл бұрын
But other than that great video as usual. Keep up the good work!
@ianlindblom6579
@ianlindblom6579 Жыл бұрын
Imagine what togashi writes when humanizing chrolo
@michaelcerda5514
@michaelcerda5514 Жыл бұрын
WHAT DID THE NOTE SAY!?
@apeesteranime2956
@apeesteranime2956 Жыл бұрын
I’m dying to know, but likely just a very descriptive note of how they killed Sarasa.
@wyckr3367
@wyckr3367 Жыл бұрын
Phantom Troupe vs Gyro 🔥
@maxhoopla5387
@maxhoopla5387 Жыл бұрын
Bro where’s the new video???? We need you
@apeesteranime2956
@apeesteranime2956 Жыл бұрын
Been having to put in more hours than usual at my job. So that kept me from having time to work on videos. Chapter review should be out late tonight or early tomorrow morning.
@maxhoopla5387
@maxhoopla5387 Жыл бұрын
@@apeesteranime2956 nice putting in that work
@GarredHATES
@GarredHATES Жыл бұрын
Well their childhood was cut to pieces..
@djimmyriodan7280
@djimmyriodan7280 Жыл бұрын
Seeing chrollo acting a villain was a hint from togashi . Its like togashi is saying chrollo is great at actig it could fool others , he can make everyone convinced of whatever he want . Its like he wears the character hence his ability, stealing abilities . He is not a human anymore , he doesnt know what he is. He takes his idendity from his friends , the troop . One of them dying means some part of his idendity died. Once all spiders die , he will have no idendity anymore . Maybe thats what chrollo wants ... Chrollo knew that sarsa will die , he might have plotted everything , he acted worried and sad to convey that he is sad. Ofcourse we will believe him either us as readers or the young troop . He has formed the troop with a motivation that they should protect the children. Themselves as a troop. This motivation grow stronger each time one of them dies . He is seeking to create the best performance as an actor , he want to be seen , to be felt as someone with no idendity feels.he is creating a great show , a perfect show where he can controle everything . Hisoka understood his relationship to the troop , this is why he want to kill them.
@geckoplayz747
@geckoplayz747 Жыл бұрын
The comparison of kurpika and chrollo will forever be fascinating togashi is really the goat and yes your right the troupe wasn’t humanized until now and I very much feel for them while at the same time don’t forgive them for the evil they have done and if kurpika gets his vengeance 💀
@clichefiction9338
@clichefiction9338 Жыл бұрын
But I dont understand, did i miss something in this flashback? Why is it brilliant? i'm not ranting, i'm genuinely asking a question. To put everything into perspective: Sarasa goes out and doesn't come back, the young troupe go to look for her, when they find her in that horrible state, Out of nowhere, chrollo decides to become a villain? So what is the goal of Chrollo and the troupe now? why was this chapter so brilliant in peoples opinion? did i miss something?
@gamingkat365
@gamingkat365 Жыл бұрын
Well, to the point of chrollo becoming a villain suddenly, you basically have a group of literal children and teens go through a traumatic event (more traumatizing for Chrollo since he claims responsibility for her death) and from what this series has taught us, kids love to plunge into extreme things if it means revenge/satisfaction (Gon making a super nen contract because of kite and kurapika becoming basically a mob boss to retrieve the eyes of his clan) Their plan does make sense. With how things are now, there's virtually zero way to track Sarasa's killers (Gon knows how kite died and the troupe left a note for kurapika so they had a funnel for their hatred) but the troupe had no direction, just pure hatred. Because chrollo knows/assumes they recorded their disgusting act of torture, they need a way to get them to share it, but who in their right mind would upload there crimes to the Internet...unless they had protection. Chrollo's plan isn't to track the killers down, but to bring them to him. Jaded people love congregating together, so by turning meteor city into a villain's paradise, it's like a moth following a light. However, there's a problem, if we had no leader to govern/dictate the villainous city, it would just be anarchy: killing, kidnapping, etc....well even more than there already is anyways. So chrollo not only has to turn meteor city into a villain's paradise, he has to become the dictator of the city and must be a villain that even OTHER villains are scared of. Machi awakening nen also answers the question about how the troupe learns it, including how all of the original member's powers relating to Sarasa's death in some way (like machi's needle nen for healing and repairing). Also the fact Sheila doesn't join the troupe which is what alot of people potentially thought. Sheila is either the catalyst that makes the troupe end the kurta clan, related to the princes somehow, or another hxh explanation. But my main point is the fact the troupe didn't have a funnel for their trauma and hatred, if kurapika never knew it was the troupe who ended the clan, what's to say he wouldn't have become just like chrollo.
@clichefiction9338
@clichefiction9338 Жыл бұрын
@@gamingkat365 alright, thanks alot for the explenation!
@SuperAlphaKirby
@SuperAlphaKirby Жыл бұрын
I'd say there's still a lot left to uncover about the troupe. We still need to know why they massacred the kurta clan. I think there's still many answers left to be told which would explain why they became the sociopaths that they did.
@clichefiction9338
@clichefiction9338 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperAlphaKirby yes, the fact that the flashback was cut of means there are still things to discover.
@sofiacooke7532
@sofiacooke7532 Жыл бұрын
Chrollo's lackof a personality is reatable for me personally
@TheLastCrow5150
@TheLastCrow5150 10 ай бұрын
I still believe Tserriednich was the fire that lit this whole situation on fire. In the end, Chrollo and Kurapika will find out the truth and will temporarily join forces to take him Tserriednich (Chrollo will be the only alive in the Troupe anymore at this point). The Troupe killed the Kurta because they believe the Kurta killed Satasawhen it was actually Tserriednich who killed Satasa due to his sick joy of militation and body parts. I think Kurapika will kill Sasha at the start. Then Kurapika and Chrollo will face Tserriednich. It'll be unbelievably hard to kill him; has a ridiculous grasp of nen, two nen beast, a hatsu which developed on it's own (through use zetsu of all things). We're yet to see his ability yet but I imagine it will be OP and terrible tk face. Tserriednich will be beaten but either Chroll, Kurapika, I r both will die in the process. *By the way, how do you kill Tserriednich? Two nen beast, time manipulation hatsu during Zetsu, and unknown(s) abilities. Togashi really knows how to make the craziest scenarios.
@wapol731
@wapol731 Жыл бұрын
Are we goin to see humanization of hisoka next?
@user-wy8ve5nr2n
@user-wy8ve5nr2n Жыл бұрын
Impossible
@SuperAlphaKirby
@SuperAlphaKirby Жыл бұрын
Nah he probably punched a hole through his mom's womb when he was born.
@jcnot9712
@jcnot9712 Жыл бұрын
I love you man, but your videos can be so hit or miss for me. Specifically your reviews of the last few chapters are written like one of those essays where people are trying to reach the minimum word count. I get watch time is good for cpm but man there’s gotta be other ways to do this.
@MDG-mykys
@MDG-mykys Жыл бұрын
This guy obsession with the phantom Troup 😆. I can understand your definitions of these words, but if I understood them correctly, humanization is kinda subjective, as opposed to making it human, which makes sense because I never felt bad for them.
@Hgkd2
@Hgkd2 Жыл бұрын
I disagree about the humanising thing. Basically like gatekeeping humanising lol Yeah it's more shallow sure, and the intention of the author was clearly to show them what type of humans they are in the moment. Dismiss the flashback and saying they're already humanised is clearly wrong on the same bases, just viewing the subject as black and white. Nothing is that black and white.... other than pandas.
@ajadeleye4970
@ajadeleye4970 Жыл бұрын
Fuck yeah black Uvo
@JLeviNow
@JLeviNow Жыл бұрын
I feel at this point we just waiting for Pariston to say he's Sheila.
@ghostflask
@ghostflask Жыл бұрын
Your theory about Sheila doesn’t really work because it is heavily implied that Sheila was the person who found the massacred Kurta at the end of the backstory
@TheD_an_G
@TheD_an_G Жыл бұрын
Reading this was heartbreaking. I could feel how horrified those kids were when they opened the sack. I don't often get emotional over anime or manga but I couldn't stop the tears pouring out of my eyes when reading through those panels
@yoshuareynaldo2295
@yoshuareynaldo2295 Жыл бұрын
Eh it's no biggie that Uvo is black though. Bono is obviously black and indigenous. Meteor City in the manga is potrayed as the most diverse society. I think even their members name and ethnic are mixed.
@dacarter70ify
@dacarter70ify Жыл бұрын
Wait didn't ovo die? How is he back
@thepirateage6396
@thepirateage6396 Жыл бұрын
this is a flashback dude
@friedhotwings
@friedhotwings Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but the argument you made at the beginning was so dumb
@imjustrussian4733
@imjustrussian4733 Жыл бұрын
drawing
@ErikMo96
@ErikMo96 11 ай бұрын
My own theory is that a member of the kurta clan killed sarasa, hence the phantom troupe killing the clan and leaving the note
@natturn-her5050
@natturn-her5050 Жыл бұрын
Your humanization segment isn't strong and I don't see the necessity of trying to pinpoint where the reader should humanize the troupe. There's a faint bias in your perception.
@codeblueopinions2908
@codeblueopinions2908 Жыл бұрын
Dude you do not look for leadership and guidance from your mother hahaha. That’s the job of a competent father. If you’re looking for guidance from your mom, then that’s just unfortunate. Even in the story, it doesn’t show that dynamic. Ging gives gon guidance after messing up in the CA arc (not Mito). Silva gave Killua guidance with the blood pact thing (not the mother). Just wanted to correct that, because that is not what mothers typically do. They nurture, heal, love etc. fathers lead, guide, protect and provide. Even in the CA arc at the end when that girl came back to her mom, the mom just embraced her and showed her LOVE. Togashi doesn’t display this “mothers guide” philosophy in the story, so idek what you got this from. Feminism ig? Lol
@codeblueopinions2908
@codeblueopinions2908 Жыл бұрын
@UCxEQeyYIXVqwv8_-h1dyHzw so what is your point for anything? Are you trying to debate or are you just saying stuff? I’m not sure where you expect to go from here lol. Everything I said is still right and you just added some more context ig (?).
@rylace
@rylace Жыл бұрын
You're 1000% wrong about the troupe not being humanized in prior arcs. They're very humanized even just in Yorknew. Your argument for why is extremely weak too. You just give examples of them being written in very human ways and say the ones before aren't humanization and the newer ones are without justifying that difference that you claim is there. I could use your same logic to say even the flashback isn't humanization because you haven't substantiated why it's different (probably because it isn't). You might not have seen the humanization, but it was definitely there from the beginning.
@jesush9365
@jesush9365 Жыл бұрын
You can have an Afro and not be black lmao I have a friend that isn’t even black he’s white and Mexican and he has a Afro lmao
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