Chronicles of Elyria Owner Hosts Discord Interview...Goes bad.

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[@Maidbots]

my dude is trapped in the biggest lie of his life and has to larp as a gamedev for the rest of it LOL

[@jayjohnson6152]

LOL HE TOOK ALL OF THE MONEY LOL JOKES ON HIM!

[@jcnot9712]

He's what would happen if you had to spend the rest of your life making stuff up to meet the word count of an essay that has an infinite word count.

[@adamfrazer5150]

This right here 👍 I mean, one time, I told the teacher I had read a book that I hadn't.....she made me write a report........which I spuuuuun out into a manifesto of generalizations that I could glean from the cover 😳

[@andrewfoot3780]

@@jayjohnson6152what a melodramatic and misinformed response. Probably should watch the video before commenting 😬

[@traktor321]

i would larp as a piece of shit for 8mill dollars for the rest of my life 🤣

[@grantkeller4634]

Your videos about CoE, Dreamworld and Earth 2 got me through hundreds of hours of work from 2021-2022

[@metalcadude2]

I hope you're not a surgeon

[@ilianceroni]

@@metalcadude2 some surgeons listen to classical music while operating, others listen to kira, of course 😂

[@Sharlenwar]

Same here!

[@onomatopoeia7505]

Same. When I have a round of boring activities, I just have the playlist on

[@Kalyptik]

Same, it got me through a lot of sleepless nights, wish he still did more content on them.

[@IGiveTheBestTakes]

As a game developer, when I hear "it won't be multiplayer initially" it is a crazy red flag. One does not just simply convert from singleplayer to MMO without basically restarting from zero... the way your code interacts is fundamentally different.

[@Galdenistal]

I had the same thought, then I asked myself (as someone who has played games for 40 years): "How many games have I played that started out single player and were patched to multiplayer over time?". I'm sure there have been some, but I couldn't recall any that I've played.

[@dn22pkkdd476]

Isn't that what happened to Fallout 76?

[@dekoldrick]

@@dn22pkkdd476 Exactly what I was thinking. They used a single player engine to make a multiplayer game and resulted in a lot of bugs and exploits.

[@koppsr]

It really shows how moronic the guy is. And just how stupid he thinks the backers are....

[@shabath]

@@Galdenistal multiplayer sure, but MMOs are so different that you just can't make a "multiplayer but for a lot of people" and expect anything to 1. work and 2. be good.

[@tsumardi]

The year 2050, Caspian talks about how awesome unreal 9 is and how he is thinking of taking online class to learn how to use it.

[@Jempai]

Caspian: "I understand why you're mad, and I don't blame you." Also Caspian: "Goes on a 3 hour long rant about how he blames you"

[@notatrollll]

“YOUR PERCEIVED WRONGDOINGS” caspian….caspian my guy, my dude…you really need to learn to shut up. Do you really think that gave you sympathy? Caspian really loves talking in his blogs and I really think its gunna keep getting him in hot water. “I check my locks every night” im not advocating that crazy behavior from people but im certainly not shocked when he says dumb shit like this

[@LouieNJ]

The people who are mad just don't understand the intricacies of fog of war.

[@christaylor7079]

This guy just refuses to accept that his investors feel scammed. He’s off in his own reality completely oblivious to our own

[@davidlevy706]

You're being kind. I think he knows the truth - and desperately wants to hide it.

[@D0NU75]

@@davidlevy706 i think he knows the truth and desperately trying to change it.

[@christaylor7079]

@@davidlevy706 I’m not being kind at all. I think he’s just that delusional and stupid

[@planexshifter]

He knows exactly what he is doing. He’s scamming people out of money so he can play around and develop an engine he can sell.

[@laserproof]

if he acknowledges our reality, then he would have to be accountable. he doesn't want to be

[@j_kickass]

"You didnt stop the Crowdfunding, the Crowd stopped funding you" 😂😂

[@D0NU75]

maybe the real Elyria was all the videos we made along the way

[@Marx0w0]

ok that was funny.

[@BAGG8BAGG]

I remember when I was a kid, I tried to build a car in my garage, my dad said it was gonna be a lot of work and money and I just thought he was being a tight wad. He compromised and told me if I can rebuild my bike then he would help, I tried, it was beyond both my grasp and strength at the time, the crankshaft was not gonna ever be rebuilt. Caspian went pro with this idea as an adult and never learnt his lesson, sometimes you gotta rebuild the bike before starting on the car.

[@CainXVII]

Such a great dad moment. Did he at least help you get your bike back together? :)

[@BAGG8BAGG]

@@CainXVII yeah he fixed the crank for me, also taught me to skid on the front lawn to the horror of my mother. That was a tough lesson for me, the realization that a dream has to be more wishful thinking if you want substance, it really put into perspective the amount people work for the achievements we maybe see only a fraction of the time put in.

[@iandakariann]

It's a hard lesson to go past the dreams and imagination and to actually start working and realizing your mentality skipped A LOT of stuff in between. Your dad did wonderful with getting you into something small to get that feel without major sacrifice.

[@thatHARVguy]

@@BAGG8BAGG The next lesson your dad taught you was to lay down new sod, right? 😉

[@felixchien1664]

Are you exaggerating when you say you thought your dad was "being a tight wad"? As a kid, I regarded my father's words as realistic or reasonable; and I never overestimated my own thoughts. I was in fact, underestimating myself. I never thought my dad was "being a right wad". Maybe I need to adopt a more confident outlook. Later on in life, I discovered that many of my ideas were in fact doable. And I was very much a pessimist when it came to what would and wouldn't work. Overly conservative.

[@dubioushumor9243]

And by the end of the interview, Caspian explained the Chronicles of Elyria was inside us all along.

[@sudosert]

That explains my mysterious tumour.

[@SvendleBerries]

Turns out, Chronicles of Elyria was the scams we experienced along the way.

[@markholland9278]

Perhaps the Chronicles of Elyria was the game engine he made along the way.

[@mbarker_lng]

The part where Caspian does the 'if only I had 6 guys good as me...' had me laughing hysterically. Thanks so much Cas.

[@hopelessdecoy]

Usually when I hear this (I work in software engineering but I don't work on games) it doesn't mean they're bad at coding usually, it means they're bad at working with others. Although most of the time those people don't ask or get millions of dollars up front and own the company soooooo yeah........

[@mbarker_lng]

@@hopelessdecoy Hey, a fellow coder! :) I've been working the keyboards for around 25 years myself. I can't say if hes a good coder or not without seeing code, but if hes not a scammer he is absurdly inept at estimating the work needed to complete a project and that is a skill we should have in the Lead Programmer position which he is claiming to be, in essence. Personally I do think hes full of S because he tried to close the studio and 'back away' till it became clear there were legal ramifications. He might not have scammed people in a sense of 'rug-pulling' but he has via wildly overselling his skills to get people to pay his salary for years with no oversight and no product.

[@notatrollll]

Hes “stretching himself out” so much

[@View619]

Jokes on him, working with five other egotistical yet inept team members would probably make things even harder.

[@ninetailedfox579121]

"I'm so good I wish I had other people as good as me" A few moments later.. "Other people can do this work faster than me because they are good and I am bad"

[@oliver_twistor]

I will never understand some game developers' desire to make their own engine. It's like being a carpenter and before one builds anything, they have to design and manufacture their own tools. If a developer aims to do something groundbreaking or very specific that no other existing game engine can do, it is rational to first build the engine, but 99 % of indie developers won't create something that groundbreaking. What Caspian and others like him don't seem to get is that when one is getting paid to do something, that's not the time to be a full-on nerd and learn new stuff, instead it's the time to get things done. Creating a game engine can be cool and a good learning experience, but don't do it on other people's dime if that's not what they paid you for.

[@LittleRaucousGames]

$$$

[@Keisuki]

Counterpoint: - Run a successful kickstarter - Use the money to develop a game engine, and then build a game on top of it - Release the game, which is probably kind of disappointing, game development is hard - License the engine to other companies for real money - Profit ($$$)

[@lightworker2956]

@@Keisuki Yeah I get your point, but I'm not sure if actually making a game engine that other people wish to pay for is that easy / profitable. I don't deny that some people are trying to do it.

[@tangentartists6876]

"This is going to be a great restaurant! But first, I'm going to learn to farm!"

[@Keisuki]

@@lightworker2956 If you have the know-how, it *was* lucrative enough to be worthwhile. That's why Bethesda, Valve, Epic Games, etc all made their own game engines. Of course, in the current day, it's no longer viable due to the fact that Unity & Unreal can do almost anything you'd want, and it's easier to hire for those skillsets, so nobody would buy your janky game engine. But it's still a nice looking grift, so if you're the sort of person who likes to feel like you're a genius entrepeneur, then it's an attractive thing to try.

[@iceskeletonwater]

"It's very easy to say you're gonna do stuff, but that's all you've ever done" nicely sums up this video. somehow I don't think all the technical and financial barriers in creating an MMO made in your own engine will be overcome by the power of believing in yourself really hard

[@notatrollll]

YOU ARE IN NO POSITION TO KNOW THAT HE SAID HES GUNNA NEVER STOP EVEN IF IT TAKES SEVERAL LIFETIMES. Meanwhile single devs have made isometric building sims far better than kingdoms of elyria with a lot less than 8 mil…..he has no actual content no hame play no ui no art even to show. Hes focused on cloud systems instead of core gameplay to sell or promote with. He needs an institution tbh. And it doesnt help that he gets super defensive and aggressive

[@Nerobyrne]

that's me lol

[@redcyberdragon29]

Kira keeps saying it. But the fact that we have literally never seen any gameplay as far as I know is wild. Even dreamworld has something.

[@Packerfan1993]

Cas has lied so much he's starting to believe it, he probably believes he gave gameplay to everyone

[@anyoneattheendoftime4932]

Everquest 2 was made with half the budget of CoE and in half the development time.

[@FlaviusFlav]

When he got to his wife's support, I just thought about how I can imagine how irritated his wife is dealing with this shit for so long.

[@CainXVII]

And he took money from his kids... in a couple of years they will not be happy

[@davoodoo8042]

I hear him say how he spent his money and then his wife is most important to him. I somehow doubt it

[@SvendleBerries]

Yeah, his "wife".

[@lightworker2956]

@@SvendleBerries Why "wife"? I can easily see him having a wife. For one, he was a CEO and he clearly had a good amount of money at one point.

[@SvendleBerries]

@@lightworker2956 Yeah, maybe several years ago. Whomever married him did so for the money. Dudes been broke for a while now. So yeah, "wife". I mean, he's lied about everything, but you believe someone is still with him after all this crap? lol Hell, was he _ever_ married? At this point, it's best to just doubt everything with him until he can prove otherwise.

[@StephenMcGregor1986]

Ahh, the adventures of Caspian. I was worried about a little Indie developer responsible for the Road to Vostok game with the whole Unity debacle. As a single dev, he already has his first public demo out which is incredible IMHO. He is switching engines entirely to GoDot and plans to have the next out before the end of the year. No excuses Caspian.

[@Sniperbear13]

part of the problem is this guy doesn't know what he is doing.

[@JeanneFeisont]

Swapping from Unity is an L. They did nothing wrong

[@planexshifter]

@JeanneFeisont What!?!? Unity employee or share holder eh? Because yes, Unity did do something wrong. If you really feel that they didn’t, there is something wrong you.

[@Sniperbear13]

@@planexshifter that or they are trolling for a reaction.

[@ekki1993]

​@@JeanneFeisontYou mean like changing the terms and conditions of previous versions of their software while trying to stealthily delete the original files? Changing from Unity is the one correct decision Caspian made.

[@Bo-lq5jf]

Thank you for telepathically beaming a picture of Caspian's goatse straight into my brain, while going over the "stretching himself too thin" section, while I was having dinner. Truly my day was made

[@wolfdwarf]

yum yum

[@lightworker2956]

It's actually pretty wild that if you just say / write certain words, you will paint a picture in the mind of the receiver. And there's no like filter for that.

[@seeinred]

@@lightworker2956 That is the reason internet is actually amazing.

[@Dr_Grape]

​@@lightworker2956that's like, how communication works...?

[@halfling49]

​@@lightworker2956 The power of human imagination

[@Antair.Gaming]

Fanfiction: The REAL chronicles of elyria was all the story Caspian and Kira provided to us. **mind blown**

[@CainXVII]

Yes. THESE are the Chronicles of Elyria

[@Cyromantik]

What we're missing from this story is a Luck Dragon, because it's been Neverending.

[@lightworker2956]

Kira's videos are the chronicles of the chronicles of Elyria. If someone then makes video's about Kira's videos, then those are the chronicles of the chronicles of the chronicles of Elyria.

[@t0mbst0neyt]

Maybe the real friends of Elyria were the Chronicles we made along the way

[@mitchellrcohen]

😂😂😂😂

[@zappedcustomdesigns788]

How DARE you rob me of the other two hours of you commenting on this clownshow haha. PART TWO!! PART TWO!! PART TWO!! The people demand it!! Missed ya brother~

[@rhythmandblues9302]

Yep. I’ve missed this stuff. This is KiraGold.

[@notatrollll]

I love kira but i honestly dont think i could survive a part 2. Caspian is such a egotistical insufferable twatwaffle

[@smilezor]

Caspian seems like the kind of guy who loves the sound of his own voice. Combine that with the fact his mouth runs faster than his brain, and you have this endless cycle of him talking rubbish ,which he confirms to himself, then he just talks more rubbish.

[@josefmendez8524]

And his constant uptalk lol

[@Relhio]

Caspian is saying with a straight face that their mmo is 90% done, which means it's years ahead of Ashes of creation mind you, but refuses to show anything of it? Right.

[@jdevlin1910]

Not even ART

[@FirstLast-cg2nk]

There's a difference between being incompetent, a scammer, or an incompetent scammer.

[@oliver_twistor]

I know I've commented before on Caspian's explanation why it takes so long for him to show anything because he wants to do everything right, but it really annoys me as a developer myself. He must have only worked in the most extreme of waterfall models before if he thinks he has to essentially finish the project in a polished state before anyone can ever test it out. It's such a cop-out to say that the networking and exception handling and other stuff has to be finished. Hasn't he heard about mockups? Ugh, it's so very frustrating to hear another developer having this bonkers mindset. Stuff like that makes me question that he has ever worked as a programmer (I know he has, but I'm doubtful he was any good or effective at it). How did he ever get something done at Microsoft or wherever he has worked before? The client must have been waiting forever for any kind of progress.

[@Leaf__22]

Don't worry, 6 copies of him would have made the best game ever!

[@NiffisWorld]

This isnt necessarily true. If youre an employee you usually get deadlines and such which means someones keeping you in check. If youre too much of a perfectionist, theyll tell you not to be. There is noone keeping him in check here and he wouldnt be the first example in game development history where too little oversight from "outside" sources lead to delays and unfinished projects.

[@lightworker2956]

Yeah, good point. I mean, if you're just some programmer and other people tell you "code this little part of the functionality", then you may be able to get away with that mindset.

[@oliver_twistor]

@@NiffisWorld So true. Perfectionism and procrastination are deadly when one runs their own business. I should know, I suffer from both. :) At least I'm aware of my problems, so I constantly remind me of them when working in my own business. And I'm never procrastinating or is a perfectionist when doing client work. I pride myself at delivering on time.

[@notatrollll]

As a non-developer it’s still easy to see how his brain works and gets so focused on trivial things that dont effect a core system. He seems to never work on the core gameplay or his primary models. He focused his time for WEEKS on literally a fog of war system. Ive never seen someone so incompetent. I truly think he is someone how HAS to have a manager at all times, as he does have alot of knowledge in specific coding. Id almost feel bad for him if he didnt waste 6 yrs and 8+ million of believers money then acts like it’s no big deal. Caspian has shown he will never change his ways in 6 years, hitting himself nonstop then blaming everyone else.

[@dougray30]

An hour-long Kira video! My weekend just got much better.

[@caintz7792]

I realize that this is only like 7 minutes into an over 1 hour long video, but "I know people have thoughts about me as a leader" to which I can only respond to with, "I don't think about you at all".

[@ekki1993]

"I'm a great leader" and "I thought the people I hired would work a lot more than they did, to the point that the project failed because of it" are mutually exclusive statements.

[@Xasrew]

I am gonna develop this even if it takes me multiple lifetimes! I think Caspian lost it.

[@CainXVII]

I think he got into the role of a CoE character

[@bastionshadowpaw]

he's not a scammer, he's a failure, and he should deal with the side effects of his failing.

[@roserevancroix2308]

Failure is part of life son, part of learning, part of growing - everyone that is successful at something have failed more than once. By the way how many games have you developed? Oh zero, so you have no clue what you're talking about.

[@iceskeletonwater]

​@@roserevancroix2308 by that logic caspian also has no clue what he's talking about, only difference is he wasted 8 million dollars instead of leaving a youtube comment

[@TaoScribble]

​@@roserevancroix2308 Most people have never flown a plane, but they know it shouldn't be in a tree.

[@barrybludgeon7448]

I agree but its not a side effect, its the reality of his failing. He just keeps ignoring reality, in truth this is what keeps me most entertained about all of this.

[@bastionshadowpaw]

@@roserevancroix2308 oh yeah! failure is a normnal part of life, but please understand, Just because its normal doesnt mean it's free of damages. Caspian has taken an enormous amount of money and good will from people, and he has failed spectacularly, the economic pushback he is under now is merely a side effect of that failure, And he needs to face the music, that is all. he has failed his people and they deserve to exert their retribution as well as law affords them and if not that at least they deserve to have the name of this man marked by his failure until he proves otherwise, which he seems to be dodging with flying colors.

[@geofff.3343]

Well, now we can't say Kira doesn't bleed to bring us the latest on Chronicles of Elyria dirt.

[@kirareacts]

Hahaha

[@NyxInfernal]

I heard NFT and my eyes actually rolled all the way backwards into my head. I had to dislodge them to make this comment. Anyway, I totally agree. Why can he not just address concerns by showing us something? Anything, really? I do not understand why he would spend this time doing this interview, making guides for how not to run a business, etc. and not do that when he could easily allay so much of the frustration by doing that.

[@Speederzzz]

To be fair, NFTs might have worked for people who wanted to get their money back. The project already has more footage than the average crypto game and the first sales are usually high and then plummet. Discontent crowdfunders get out, crypto investors hold the bag.

[@JohnZombi88]

​@@Speederzzz crypto investors are great at holding the bag lmao

[@onomatopoeia7505]

Fukkin' hell, AN HOUR of Kyra and it's about Chronicles of "How I stopped telling anything worthwile or learned how to love the lie"? I know what I'm doing tonight. Cheers Kyra! 🍻

[@bookle5829]

Dude I thought you're a bot lol

[@onomatopoeia7505]

Well, there ARE days I feel like an automaton... 🤫

[@grantbooher7]

kira has to have the best audience for longest watchtime, don't act like you're not about to watch the whole video

[@jjdn43]

No ragrets

[@ecyor0]

I mean, not all at once

[@kombatwombat6579]

I'm liking EVEN THOUGH no Friendos was uttered. Hope this will be taken in account when Kira takes over the world.

[@CainXVII]

I saw this comment before finishing the video and then went back to find it when I had watched to the end... :)

[@kombatwombat6579]

@@CainXVII And that's why we're Friendos.

[@UnitRico]

Ngl I kinda wish you did end up joining this call and asking Caspian how the Fog of War was doing. Surely, it'd be trivial for a man with his self-professed programming skills.

[@TheSfelex]

The law-suit fellow is extremely polite and articulate, even while talking to someone he has strong feelings against, great respect to him.

[@ugh_dad]

I was real burnt out at a job and completely blew it off for a couple years, he is using the EXACT same phrases I used to use! "We are making great progress, regretfully it isn't at the rate stakeholders would like, I get it, we aren't making the progress I would like *chuckle*" this is the line and exact delivery of a bullshitter who aint doin anything lol

[@carlacahill9453]

Most charitably, he is a hame dev who has bad management skills and crippling perfectionism preventing him from just getting something done Or he could hust be delusional of his own abilities and ynwilling to accept he fails But either way he sure know how to say nothing in response to a question

[@mauriciov2450]

The irony of saying the people suing do not have the best interest of the community at heart is that he's being sued BECAUSE he does not have the best interest of the community at heart. Dudes been stringing people along with a dream and what little he has shown for it has been a joke that can and has been cobbled together by others with less time and money.

[@tau4333]

Yes, using all the hate Unity created for his purpose. Great. Fact is, as a single Dev with his sales at the moment and the sales he probably will achieve, the new Unity license model makes it only better for him. Yes, I hate Unity like the next Dev nowadays, but for all running Projects it would be stupid to switch.

[@lasskinn474]

yeah it's not really that big of a deal revenue wise or a big dent from the share the stores take. when it starts to matter is more when the numbers get rather big.

[@StullerD]

wine popped, snacks fried, mood set. let the Saturday night start

[@deathminder9206]

I bet Caspian is the only person that is upset that Unity back tracked. He had a ready made excuse for not being able to bring out the game that was never going to come out anyway.

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

He needs to teach his kids about cutting your losses, the sunk cost fallacy etc. by stopping before it was too late, but... that ship has sailed, run out of fuel and is drifting.

[@BAGG8BAGG]

A lot of blokes in the call sounding like they are close to tears lol. amazing how one manned Caspian gets by that question though, really did send him in an emotional spiral.

[@UnknownMrsC]

Idk man how is "he cosplayed a game developer on the crowdsource money with no intention to ever be held accountable, avoided working with teams that could help, then just release a shitty half version of the thing and NEVER INTENDING TO OWN ANY OF HIS ACTIONS" not a scam? He does not intend to release the game he crowdsourced for. He had basically shareholders but because our legal system doesn't understand Kickstarter he doesn't get to be held responsible even though he is a businessman asking for investment and he takes and wants zero accountability to his failures as a CEO and a salesman. He offered investment in a game he never will manifest because of his ego. If it's not a scam, it's a grift. He mentioned NFTs, he has lived off the crowdsource and gotten to play CEO but he can't be fired by his board because of how he asked for investors. It's semantics if you he isnt a fraudulent business owner. And it feels really like a laugh to think he hasnt been manipulating this from the front. The malignancy is "i want what i want on the backs of others with no accountability"

[@UnknownMrsC]

Like he cant work with real companies. He can't start a real studio and he can't actually run it if someone is the boss of him. He is just as bad as a little elon when it comes to propping himself up in his little kingdom and making sure that HE CAN JUST DO WHATEVER HE WANTS AT HIS WHIM! I don't know how people keep swallowing his words that are empty and says nothing and shows nothing.

[@xxkillbotxx7553]

I don't think you have a damn clue about what you're talking about

[@opo3628]

@@xxkillbotxx7553 - Hi, Caspian! Think up any more scam ideas recently?

[@crunchyfrog555]

Give Caspian his due, he's VERY good at creativity. He has a very good and regular output over these years. Sadly though, that only extends to excuses and empty promises. Fuck all for anything actually empirical though.

[@WK-47]

He's certainly more of an ideas man who's more in his element and seems to prefer pure design. That's fine if you're strictly a designer and not acting as chief exec, lead dev and everything else. I'm the same, full of ideas but usually struggling to see a project through on a reasonable timescale... which is why I keep things as a hobby and don't take people's money for it. I don't need to constantly be stressed and answer to a group of people who are justifiably upset just because you can't help but make promises you can't possibly keep. Just goes to show you can be moderately intelligent and a competent technical professional but still completely lack common sense. Anyone could've been blinded by passion and end up in Casper's situation, but it takes a stubborn fool to stick at getting nowhere instead of throwing your hands up and cutting your losses.

[@crunchyfrog555]

@@WK-47 Think you miss the point - I@m taking the piss. He's not an ideas man, as he's just full of shit. What he's doing is making EXCUSES for his lack of anything meaningful. None of it comes to any menaingful fruition.

[@notatrollll]

@@WK-47i am really irked when people throw money at “ideas guys” but i get the appeal. He has that ADHD combined with a great imagination but zero managing skills and zero focus. Any person with focus could learn basic coding and how to use assets and create something if they had the income to stay in their house. Ive seem better games in RPG maker for free. Tons of student projects are free too. In six years of criticism he didnt once change his ways to focus on a small segment to show. Never. Other than the parkour disaster and footage of a shitty age of empires 1 map i guess. After his project failed did he find focus and start first making a core building sim game people could see and touch? No, he spent 4 weeks working on the clouds, not even kidding

[@Sundaydish1]

If he had 6 other developers like him we would be lucky to get an Arkanoid clone in 12 years.

[@lostcosmos3245]

not even then 🤣

[@swinnburn]

"If it takes me several life times to finish this game I will"🧟‍♂

[@rhythmandblues9302]

Caspian wishing for six of himself brings to mind Chief Inspector Dreyfus from the Pink Panther movie A Shot In The Dark: "Give me ten men like Clouseau and I could destroy the world..."

[@Isteak80]

The moderator of the class action lawsuit was very well spoken

[@roberts1711]

He really wasnt. He rambled on for ages and in the end didnt ask a question

[@PointsofData]

​@roberts1711 He didn't have a question. He was pointing out to Caspian that everything Cas has said, he has essentially said before and they still have nothing to show for it. I don't think he was expecting an answer, just felt the need to point that out to Cas.

[@rasmie8858]

He keeps talking about how hard it is to make the game without money and time but doesn't address the fact that the progress he made when he had $8 million, 3 years of full staff don't really match up

[@seechan2186]

Finally a new episode of one of my all time favourite sagas, Keeping Up With The Caspians (the other fav being Earth 2, I miss that one as well)

[@Scott356-m2u]

I don't think you have to have "evil" intent to scam. He took a salary out of it and there was no game. Scam.

[@Avoxalus]

I feel like doing an affiliate read with no prep or looking through the terms beforehand is PEAK Kira. No f**ks given 😂

[@gosphor2826]

A juicy long video about Elyria, just what i needed for this long Saturday night.

[@DarkBloodbane]

I am boggled with Caspian's inability to be responsible with what he's done or rather what he hasn't done. A simple apology might not be enough but Caspian couldn't even give that (at least here).

[@Lagbeard]

Not every failed kickstarter is a scam. Some of them are, but sometimes it's just people overestimating themselves and underestimating the budget both at once leading to them only managing to spectacularly waste everyone's money.

[@Jdeadevil]

Lmao, poor guy, Caspian sounded like he was beginning to cry at the English guy's answer.

[@roserevancroix2308]

Yeah if you received death-threats on the daily you would probably sound like that too.

[@iloveanothermanswives4278]

@@roserevancroix2308 Doubt it. He is in debt of 8 million dollars and will go to jail for roughly 20 years if he announce the shutdown of "Kingdom of Elyria". That's a more legitimate reason to cry than those online death threats because the consenquences gonna be real.

[@sukhoifockewulf]

Welp, that's why you don't piss thousands of peoples money away then lie and bend the narrative to your whims while still having nothing to show years and years later. He deserves everything that happens to him, good people dont have to look behind them, because they do the right thing.

[@notatrollll]

⁠​⁠@@roserevancroix2308i want everyone in chat to observe the one caspian defender. Using death threats as a focus to avoid genuine criticism is a common tactic by scammers. Even if the death threats are real (every game studio gets them, especially those who scam people) he purposely and tactfully brings it up when people give him basic genuine criticism. Every post you have here is defending caspian. Maybe instead of defending him you should tell him to stop doing the same bad things over and over again for 6 yrs and actually listen to criticism. Or you can continue to hug and coddle him. That’s a choice you can make i guess.

[@cleanerben9636]

@@notatrollll It's probably one of Caspie's alt accounts

[@joebe123]

8 years 8 million dollars. How many staff members did they have? 8 coders at 100k a year?

[@kevadu]

"I'm a one-man person" No multiple personalities confirmed!

[@Liondanceforme]

classic zuccian slip

[@notatrollll]

“They are punishing me for their perceived wrongdoing and this hurts the community” 1. And? 2. The community is already hurt and clearly isnt getting anything.

[@colonelsanders1349]

I cringed when he started rambling about the guy's accent.

[@chrisstroud1915]

The way Kira rephrased that question was absolutely perfect

[@maxm2639]

First, I want to keep hearing about this slow motion train wreck, so thank you for another installment! I am most interested in trying to understand how a person like Caspian is able to delude himself about his abilities and his weaknesses for so many years, and why no one is able to stop him or persuade him to change course. Because Caspian is obviously not the only story like this one in the realm of the games industry or business and other human enterprises in general. As for him showing gameplay from even a somewhat finished game, I'm guessing that various parts of the game including key game mechanics, user interfaces, animations, inventory systems, etc. were developed to various levels and then put aside to work on other priorities or scrapped completely because of some problem and restarted from scratch, and so Caspian never had a quick and easy way to put all the pieces together for an actual demo. If you could ever find one of the developers who would talk about how Caspian handled scheduling goals and tasks and what blinded him to his lack of overall progress, I would most like to see / hear that.

[@mm3dgraphics]

I love how he keeps talking like there's an actual game outside of the little game that exists in his mind.

[@AlekTrev006]

I think Kira should name a pet “Caspian”, as he’s become like his comedic foil, over these past years 😸. Love this unending saga ~ thx for covering it, Kira !

[@thepolarphantasm2319]

This "game" has given Kira years of content without ever actually existing Idk how that's possible but this running gag is still running at full f***ing speed lol

[@Przymiot]

Any Earth 2 news?

[@contagioushate]

I'm hanging for some Earth 2 updates, surely its been long enough that they've come out with more 'game play' updates, reasons why we should invest, sorry, i mean "play" the game, and 100 excuses as to why its not operational yet.

[@NiffisWorld]

You see, if i was someone invested in this financially (im not, i just know about this through Kira) the thing that would probably piss me off the most is, that he still had "half a million" lying around for the lawsuit and the way he mentioned this it sounds like theres still a lot more.

[@LoneCanadianPoet]

I can not help but picture actor Topher Grace being the voice of Caspian.

[@raycearcher5794]

That one dude is UNBELIEVABLY diplomatic, what a nice guy

[@Mentalduress]

He's a scammer until all information is available. How much he paid himself, etc etc. And it's gotta be a fine line there too call him anything else because he might not have 'intended to scam.' He didn't fully understand the process but made wild promises anyhow and took people's money based on that and still hasn't produced anything to prove he's actually worked towards making a playable game. And if he does end up selling his engine? While never delivering on the game? How is that not something we can feel comfortable calling a scam?

[@gearsoverdusk7303]

While the mental imagery of Caspian Goatse and 'If only I had 6 Caspians' was amusing, the guys own moderator basically calling him out at the 20 minute mark and asking for evidence of anything that could be a game... I fell apart there. I was in stitches. My goodness.

[@nurdsmith]

lmao 34:35 Trying to spin Elyria NFTs as some kind of imaginary solution is the funniest thing said so far.

[@chaossmith3864]

Dude sounds so frantic and about to cry I'm just sitting here thinking either he's caught in a lie and knows it or hes telling the truth and gonna have a breakdown but either way it's not getting done. I can't get over his basically forget the proof I know me and you're not me so you can't say what I will or won't do. Also feel bad for his kids and his wife if he's being 100% honest there because he's basically flushing resources down the toilet. She's got to be picking up all the slack and then some. How much do you think they have to be extra careful about budget because of that? (Again, if what he said is absolutely true and as presented.) Uggh this is a sad state of things that absolutely cannot have a happy ending no matter what happens or how you slice it.

[@Kiyuja]

Unity is actually a good pick for a game like an MMO but it all falls apart when you say "oh we wanna switch platform and develope two similar games with 2 different technologies", like if both use Unity you could reuse code, assets, plugins etc. NO small studio would do this, let alone creating their own tech. This is purely excuses

[@rudeboyjohn3483]

As of right now, I wouldn't advise ANYONE use Unity for anything lol

[@Kiyuja]

@@rudeboyjohn3483 you say that out of personal preference based on current news. Studios however dont think this way, development takes years infact so the current "drama" has no impact on that whatsoever. Additionally you are bound by the terms of your Unity version. Meaning all existing projects are literally untouched. I would recommend looking at alternatives as well but Unity still has its place and many wont switch

[@ssvensic]

The Chronicles of Elyria is the Kira videos we watch along the way all along ❤

[@computer9764]

I would still consider it a "scam". "the intentional use of deceit, a trick or some dishonest means to deprive another of his/her/its money, property or a legal right" He has always acted like it was simply incompetence that led to the failure of the game. If there's actual intellectual property other developers are willing to pay for, why did it not help with the game? Was every developer at Elyria working full time on the tools for the game? Why did he do another funding round and take the covid relief money and then let everyone go? While death threats are never okay, seeing his belittling behavior is also not okay.

[@ally6438]

I don’t play any of these games or know anything about them. But love listening to these totally inconsequential dramas in a world I have nothing to do with

[@brianviktor8212]

How does he think he is a good programmer, while acknowledging that people can conjure up parts of his "complicated" system in 2 weeks, for which he needs years?

[@Blakdood1]

You know what this is? A man stalling for time before he gets taken to court and then thrown in jail

[@eskykitty]

kira getting glass in his foot while listening to this dumpster fire is just the icing on the cake 😂

[@SvendleBerries]

I wonder if that could be added to the class action lawsuit lol

[@tangentartists6876]

"IT'S THE CURSE OF ELARIYA!"

[@retroarcadefan]

If this guy isn't blowing smoke, he needs to show or release some form of a game that works. Then he needs to actually release or show the next iteration of that game that adds a feature or optimizes/improves a feature, and so forth.

[@lbrad2001]

By the way I've developed a game even greater than COE. According to Caspian I need to show no evidence of this, "that's the facts".

[@peekay120]

Credit where credit is due, Caspian is truly an Olympic gold medalist in mental gymnastics

[@LupinTelegar]

Good to see you put a video out on here. Always intrigued to hear the chronicles of the chronicles of elyria. Caspian still sounds like he just doesn't grasp the whole picture but whatever. I'd be interested in hearing your opinions and general thoughts on various topics if you're looking to do that and whether it's on here or a third channel. It's your presentation style and input that keeps me coming back. All the best dude.

[@CrippledKittens13]

I'm impressed that 4 people pledged 10k to this project.

[@Orkillester1]

please do the rest of this yeah, makes for great listening in the background lol

[@LazyBandicoot]

An hour video for my weekend house cleaning? Thank you, Kira ❤

[@howiieb]

Come for the Elyria talk, stay for the "Kira cutting his toe with glass" ASMR

[@LtColShingSides]

Oh damn! Part 2, let's go lol

[@requious84]

Utterly fascinating. I look for your updates. Something was missing in my life not hearing 'frendos' getting ready for work every morning.

[@cleanerben9636]

Now there's three parts I'm gunna watch them all like one big movie. Can't wait to witness hours of insanity. Cheers mate.

[@NateDaGreat808]

“The problem was they were 6 people that weren’t me” what a narcissist lol

[@DiiNovensiles]

You guys dont realize that Caspian is a lich, he can take as many lifetimes as he wants to make chronicles of elyria Unfortunately chronicles of elyria is also his phylactery, so he cant show it to us. His hands are tied

[@RokTrixBru]

Yall don't know how fast I clicked. I screamed in a Costco. This man is my favorite dumpster fire.

[@strawbarry7834]

I doubt he'll ever see this, but with all due respect, Caspian, there's a different lesson you could teach your kids. Sometimes you have to admit defeat and walk away, and there is *no* shame in that! Failure is part of life and learning. Do you really want them to grow up to be as neurotic as you appear to be? You're living a logical fallacy called "sunk cost", where you're unable to take the L and move forward with your life. Let. This. Go. Find a new job, start earning some money, take it on the chin, dust yourself off, and learn the lessons. I fear you're stuck in a downward spiral and will ruin the rest of your life tilting at windmills. It's not worth it. Please let this go. I don't think you're a bad man, I just think you can't seem to stop lying to yourself. Stop, before it really is too late. Talk to a therapist, I don't say that jokingly or mockingly, they really do work!

[@sirpalee]

I would listen to the whole 5 hours of you reacting to caspian. :)

[@mrhed0nist]

That Caspian can talk a monumental amount of bollocks, Like the guy at work who you avoid because he rabbits on and on about how good he is at his job, while not doing his job. A true time vampire :D

[@aimhrialta]

I think there are two things to remember with soulbound Hanlon's razor - "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence" Fred Clark's law - "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."

[@jayjohnson6152]

As a person with malicious intent, I routinely pretend that my evil acts are due to simple incompetence. It's called plausible deniability and sociopaths regularly use this to bamboozle idiots that like to cite Hanlon's Razor.

[@yaldabaoth2]

It's one hour long Kira! Let me go over to my recliner, get a hot milk and a blanket. I don't know why that appears to me to be the perfect setting to watch this, but it does.