Chrysler transmission teardown. Snowball's 1937 racer returns! | Redline Update #57

Time to tackle the transmission on our 1937 Ford Coupe race car. Davin pulls the rusty, crusty transmission apart to see what may or may not need to be repaired or replaced. Fingers crossed it just needs to be cleaned, lubed, and reassembled!
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[@MotorStorm]

Wow those gears are clean

[@Schrasma]

D: and if they don't see oil in 24h they will have rust on them

[@kurtpoblenz2741]

The Chrysler 4 speed is an EXCELLENT transmission 🤘🤘

[@chuckhawes7519]

A-833 4 speeds are extremely strong transmissions. I took mine down and rebuilt everything with Brewer's parts and run it behind a 650hp 496 stroker big block in my 65 dart gt.

[@iare19]

The moment I saw how the oil looked I knew it was in very good shape. Didnt even look blackish almost like new.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Haha I wonder if that was "real" gear oil ....didn't they used to use sperm whale oil and it smelled awful , or something like that?

[@nerome619]

agreed - looks new!

[@lancedaniels]

Thanks for posting and sharing. Nice to see the transmission getting taken care of.

[@spencertuttle3136]

833's are pretty legendary. Give brewers a call, they'll set you up with something cool

[@BBCharger5spd]

They are simple and strong.... Everyone says the 23 spline is "weak" but I've seen them live behind 700-800hp forever... I have only ever seen the 18 splines with damage... not sure why

[@MyassesDragon]

Think of the machinist who made these parts without the computers used today. Skill.

[@scdevon]

You're right of course, but some pretty highly specialized automated equipment made those parts. This is not that old of a transmission. 60s-70s-80s maybe.

[@oikkuoek]

Tip for today: Sandblast the parts before putting them into the washer. This way the bast medium won't get into the inside surfaces, and the dust that gets inside, stucks in gunk and gets washed off. If you own a bakery, you can get those parts colored before the day ends, and start assembly right after parts arrive.

[@johnds6621]

Glad you know how to put that thing back together. My luck something would roll away and not be seen until after the case was closed up.

[@Thousand_yard_King]

I had a 1976 Chevy 1 ton dually, 3 x 3 that we purchased new and drove until 1986 ,by then we had over a million miles on it, with 5 engine rebuilds accomplished and a SM465 stick, so I determined to rebuild the transmission to keep it reliable, tore it all down and found out that nothing was wrong with it, after a million miles all I had to do is put new gaskets in it and it was perfect, the truck is gone now destroyed in a wreck, still have the transmission, I'll never let it go. Still perfect condition!!

[@scoutdogfsr]

I have a 1983 SM465 that has lived through 3 trucks now. It now has a 1986 Advanced Adapter ranger underdrive and a 427bb in front of her and she pushes a 1970 k5 rock crawler. Only work ever done is fluids and gaskets and synchro. I guess she is at 350k miles now

[@briang4470]

The only real problem the sm465 get is when they jump out of 3rd but they sell repair kits to fix that, other than that they are bullet proof.

[@aldneypalone]

hi Davin. thanks for the lessons. you do everything with enthusiasm and inspire new mechanics admirers. Palone writes here. from Brazil. hugs

[@BuiElec225]

Davin,,,you’ve done a bunch of engines and some “normal” transmissions now and all of those episodes are great!! I love watching them. I’m a Buick guy so the nailhead and straight 8 episodes are my favorites. You’re almost done with the straight 8 and then it will go in your Buick but when are you going to go through the Dynaflow that’s bolted to it? My 62 Electra has a Dynaflow and I think that would be an awesome set video’s for the Redline Rebuild series. Not your “normal” transmission. Plus,,like 5 people these days have had them apart. That would really be cool to see the process of one being rebuilt. Just a thought,,I’d love to see you rebuild your Dynaflow!!!! Keep up the good work. Thanks for the videos and your knowledge!!

[@cnotake]

Amazing work! I enjoy watching professionals doing their passion.

[@olskool3967]

there was nothing wrong with that transmission at all. i just retired after 45 years of being a professional transmission rebuilder and shop owner. i love looking at your videos,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[@stickit2theman1]

Wow that thing is gorgeous thanks for showing it to us!

[@ksgray1]

Absolutely love the shifter old school repair

[@_BAD_MERC_]

This is literally what I would do with my days if I hit the lotto. Friends over, fire pit, grill food, drink beer, listen to country music and take things apart.

[@novaguy8419]

You don’t have to hit the lottery to do that my friend.

[@stevehansen5389]

Chrysler NV A833 in a cast iron case. Strongest factory four speed used in 60s muscle cars. In the 70s it aws reengineered into a three speed with overdrive. In the 80s Chevrolet used a version. the NV 440 or My6 in 2 wheel drive pickups. Case has the Chevy trans to bellhousing bolt pattern. A little hard to find but well worth the hunt.

[@MrJacksjb]

I wish I had a sound guy to add some reverb and echo to make it sound epic when I hit a part with a hammer to break it loose. When I do it the only thing I hear is swearing.

[@brandongrant5343]

You need your own tv channel. I’d watch him over any of those other restoration shows any day

[@johnschutt9187]

Beautiful work.

[@b.t.6345]

Yes thank you!!

[@craigreschke8921]

You have the best job in the world

[@garyallen7868]

I was impressed when I seen the oil come out of it.

[@TheRumbles13]

Gotta love the custom shifter

[@gabrielkloster4502]

i love this is 1937 racer

[@jjmac3561]

You should really be using a softer hammer like a brass/bronze hammer or a block of hardwood and a lead hammer to force out the shafts, not just a large ball pein hammer.

[@mrpontiac83]

I'm glad you are going to change both ball bearings. Hammering on the tail shaft when the outer race is stuck in the case will brinell the raceways.

[@larryhutchens7593]

The 833 4 speed, one tough tranny. Debuted is 64. Yours have the older style shift forks & the long output shaft. To make a removal tool for the reverse gear shaft I used a large open end wrench & cut off the end to use as a fork to straddle the support inside the case then fabricated a puller using a 1/2" fine thread bolt. Easy to do, just study the situation a bit. Passon has parts for that trans. Check shift syncros for wear. That trans was also made in an overdrive version.

[@karlsracing8422]

Great transmissions, Passon or brewers will have all the parts.

[@MrTheHillfolk]

We have a monster 16" lathe in our work, motor rewinding. Last week, at the end of the day one of the boys was reminiscing on helping his dad work on that lathe. I guess the original gearbox went bad ,so he rigged up a 1930s Chrysler transmission to work instead. Haha , yup this vid looks like what's at the shop,they just added another gear 🤣 Their grandfather opened the doors in 1932.

[@workingguitar1]

I would guess that was rebuilt and then set aside at some point. Just looking at the oil , all the gears, all the shiny bronze pieces ,and the super clean shafts that you're removing.

[@ODGColornChrome]

Lol, love your video davin. When all else fails, brute force and ignorance!

[@davebarron5939]

"my work is done, I'm gonna go have some fun" AKA - work on something at home.... Yes!

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Haha wrench all day at work , go home and eat dinner and tinker in the garage in the evening for relaxation.

[@thetimppa923]

That Gladiator looks like something out of Tool Time!! 😅

[@miguelrdzrdz275]

Excelente trabajo👍

[@jp2246]

8:15 I really do love your Hevrolet

[@flyingpancake7790]

Couldn’t wait for the next video

[@donaldpowers3314]

The weak link in these transmissions when drag racing was the tailshaft (back ) bearing .. I use to drag race a 69 ROAD in the early 80s . But that was after 6000 rpm launches, ram 6 puck clutch, the bearing cage failed, allowing the roller balls to seperate under launch the load on the gear face pushed the tail shaft upward all hell broke loose the car moved foward and regage gears snaped the solid u joint .. . But these are great transmissions, best used with verta gate.. (drag racing) A friend drove the car once and said that was the best 4 spd he ever shifted.

[@offensivehardcore1]

Your knowledge is a treasure. I have watched every movie and you have a great idea. Bow to the Lord

[@jrpoints]

Nice hevrolet at the end.

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

For those who don't know, the entire disassembly/reassembly procedure for these can be found in the Work Shop Manual. Note the position of the linkages - this is the standard layout, not the Overdrive layout. The MoPaR (or Direct Connection) Performance handbook lists all the modifications needed to make these survive as a racing gearbox, including how to modify the syncro rings and dog rings for Clutchless flat shifting.

[@codyvanbuskirk2901]

As someone who has rebuilt 2 of these and has another apart waiting for a rebuild kit, i am curious as i have not heard of this book. Can you send me a link to find it online or purchase? I would love to read and learn more from it!

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

@@codyvanbuskirk2901 woah.... I googled, and only found people looking for it... I'll go looking for our copy for the ISBN

[@biglightball]

That transmission is lucky as hell it ended up in Davin's hands. 👍 I hope that mine high mileage AT 6 speed in my daily is also lucky and won't break while I try to remedy her overheating problems by experiments with different kinds of oils. 😂

[@davidbrown5587]

Okay, I have watched your videos many times and found a few hidden treasures. This particular instance is a bit mind boggling in that you use a steel surface hammer to pound on the tail shaft. If you cannot afford a mallet or brass hammer, I will purchase either of your choice for you.

[@thejeepdoctor]

I’m sure that you know this, you want to use Vaseline to hold cluster gear needle bearings in place. If you use grease, the gear lube will not break down the grease and it will clog the lube holes. I really enjoyed building manual transmissions.

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

"Grease" is also made using Clay, so can very quickly turning in to Lapping Compound inside a gearbox if the seals fail and water gets in. There's also an assembly lube designed for use in gearboxes, and like Vaseline, it breaks down and gets absorbed in to the oil.

[@lancebandy9901]

@@PiDsPagePrototypes Grease has been thickened by lithium for the last several decades. I would use white assembly grease, which is basically whipped oil.

[@mrpontiac83]

Grease is thickened with soap, lithium or sodium based soap, usually. Only a few highly specialized greases use clay as a thickener

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

Clay is the original. Everything else is marked with variation, such as "Lithium based", and is usually marked for specific uses, rather then general use.

[@cam52388ify]

Should've rotated tailshaft and knocked counter shaft out dropping cluster down. Comes and goes together alot easier that way. Tells you this in any Chilton manual

[@brustar5152]

I so desperately crave finding a 3100 four speed "hevrolet' picky-up. That would make my day to find one of those in a farmyard somewhere, sit down to dicker with the farmer and still give him what he asked for the truck. LOL.

[@slumpsg1901]

Reminds when me I popped the top off my 1948 Harley gearbox and thought well that looks ok i just replaced the two top hat bushes on the top of the shifter forks and the output seal. 15 yrs later I thought Id better check it nope it still looked the same . that was 10 yrs ago still ok . I wonder if my 2014 box will last as long somehow I doubt it.

[@steveanderson5888]

One quick question. How come the body of that car race car is it painted yet I thought you guys were going to paint it? And that transmission inside looks awesome

[@jamesdiehl8690]

So, where did you get the "hevrolet" pickup? Lol!

[@PixelSchnitzel]

A few seconds into the Hevrolet outro, my brain told me to brace for Jay Leno's beep! beep! I think I need a new brain.

[@jamesdiehl8690]

@@PixelSchnitzel lol! I never noticed before that he was missing th C!

[@quirinonavarro1857]

Hevrolet - Hagerty... you got it?

[@jamesdiehl8690]

@@quirinonavarro1857 so, it's really Chagerty? Lol!

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Kinda like summer teeth.

[@juncandle]

It’s god's hand‼️

[@romandybala]

Not the tailshaft, thats the output shaft. the housing it goes thru is also not the tailshaft its called the output shaft housing .The tailshaft then goes from output shaft to diff thru 2 universal joints.I know, I know but the right terms are there for a reason.

[@aaronpreston47]

When I doubt get a bigger hammer, when in serious doubt the torch comes out!

[@Schrasma]

"HE" VROLET :D SO GOOD

[@levijones1874]

Precision transmission if you wanna see a transmission tor down that family does it good!

[@olivierroux9482]

8:30 almost opened that door in the middle of the road

[@RiloElton]

Never clicked faster in my life

[@stephenbachman132]

Fishing reference is that Rex Hunt?

[@camneilsen8234]

@ 7:19 focus you xxxx!

[@agrosconstruction5909]

Ты классный мужик. Интересно как ты работаешь. Да и мастерская у тебя классная))) привет тебе из России)

[@StreetTruckinTitan]

Probably would have left it alone after seeing how clean the gears looked and meshed together. Don't try to fix what ain't broke.

[@biglightball]

He's not fixing it. He's making *sure* that this gearbox will work like brand new.

[@briang4470]

I would not have broke the factory seal I would have drained the oil and would have stopped there, I would have changed the tail shaft seal, put in fresh fluid and put it in the car.

[@FYMASMD]

@@briang4470 so what. Its his job to do, not you'res. Understand?

[@Paulster2]

I watch you working on this and get a whiff of gear oil ... man, I've been wrenching way too long :o)

[@WhippJunior]

Same here.

[@spurgear4]

I rebuilt an 833 in the basement once and it smelled like gear oil down there for years.

[@vandemachado6052]

👍👍👍

[@Riptidevulture]

Looks like a tiny and efficient transmission 😉. Was that mineral oil inside? And one interesting question - what exactly does a tailshaft do? I mean, why is it even there? It looks like it weights a lot and doesn't perform any function)

[@liveandletlive2894]

Um where's the clutch?

[@ronjones1308]

I am loving watching the Hagerty projects but can someone help me please!! How do I watch a completed series without spending hours searching for them one at a time? Like the 1937 Ford Coupe race car I am finished with #53 but cant find #54? HELP!

[@Мистер_ЗМЗ]

Старая школа :)

[@MaShcode]

Do you take your Chevy to the levy?

[@johndorflinger2344]

What? No blocking rings. Where is the brass?

[@jimdrechsel3611]

You really should have shown the importance of drop the cluster gear in order to remove the input shaft you were hammering on. Hammering on the output shaft to push out housing? It was a home movie not a how to video. I give you cried for figuring it out but reading the service manual is good practice if you’re not familiar with the transmission.

[@MotoEPhil]

If you like this check out Paul Cangialosi 's GearBoxVideo channel too!

[@paulstan9828]

Can you actually find parts to rebuild that transmission?

[@stevelacker358]

Very easily. The A-833 is extremely popular, and was used in a 3+1 overdrive configuration into the 80s.

[@Ed_in_Md]

Jimmie Houston

[@lbh002]

Dun

[@kennethhall7221]

Where the rest of video

[@Thousand_yard_King]

Dude, really, the work isn't done until it, completely rebuilt, repainted, corrosion proofed, and ready to install.

[@FYMASMD]

Uh stating the obvious. Did you consider that he was talking about that one days worth of work? Lighten up.

[@user-jt3mv6wz2e]

Здравствуйте. Детали на раритетные машины ищите новые или изготавливаете ?

[@pyroarchy]

is it a muncie?

[@stephenholland5930]

Chrysler New Process A833.

[@pabitrikalita3940]

I am gonna replace the bearing coz they are cheap, I was betting that I am dam sure he will replace the bearings

[@TheRumbles13]

Oil didn't look that bad! I gotta ask why you always use hand tools?habit?

[@fernandovargas5720]

🇲🇽✌️

[@TheRumbles13]

Synchro in the 30s???

[@Link-we8so]

👀

[@b.a.lineman7582]

Hevrolet a g e r t y

[@greggdsciotto8952]

Was kissing the transmission, much like kissing a Bass?

[@novaguy8419]

I know you want to make everything pretty but real racers didn’t have everything pretty. You need to leave some of them ugly strong welds and crooked parts and things because that is the authenticity of real racing. You guys do great work sometimes to good.

[@eircmaquinas5538]

Para os br cambio do opala 4M e aquela desgraça pra acavala marcha quando o reparo dos braços seletores estao ruins Uma verçao otimizada dele saio tbm na F100 F 1000 maveric da ford na A10 C10 A20 e C20 da chevrole e no opala a qui no BR kk

[@barrysauce]

Hmm Sure looks like James Hetfield. With them sunglasses on.

[@petersonoliveira8496]

Boa tarde carro 1972 Chevy Pu vai amém bom

[@davidgripshover409]

First

[@HunnenDoog]

Tip for the editor, stop overediting with slowmotion and crappy music. We're here for the tinkering not a musicvideo.

[@brakesforsnakes757]

Speak for yourself.

[@allogan8152]

Not sure I'm liking the artsy slo-mo c/w sound effects.......

[@curtisvonepp4335]

Can you once and for all TRASH THAT 🎶 MUSIC . 😝