Bradford Power Vent Water Heater Install

[@AnthonyChan-cs9ms]

Chuck, I notice that the gas pipe is Galvanized pipe which is ideal for carrying water but not suitable for carrying gas?

[@rustykan1015]

That's what I thought also.

[@danielmunro8852]

Can you install a inducer on any water heater?

[@ChuckBarron]

They do sell conversion kits.

[@Usernamestate9317]

Why did you not use the preexisting vent pipe?

[@tedlahm5740]

Combustion air comes from the kitchen area?

[@ChuckBarron]

Sure thing, louver doors too If i recall

[@dancindavey1515]

Does the blower motor need a dedicated circuit?

[@ChuckBarron]

That be nice for sure.

[@dancindavey1515]

Chuck Barron Thanks for answering. I should have been more specific. Mine is plugged in to the furnace outlet. House built in 2002. Two electricians said a dedicated outlet not needed. Grandfathered in. Home inspector says otherwise. 600 bucks to run a dedicated line. Can I leave it as is. In Ohio.

[@LK-hd3sc]

Just had a new 75 gal Bradford power vent replaced. After watching your videos and reading manual I'm worried if it was installed properly. It is a 20 ft horizontal vent run that they actually made it have an upward slope of 4 inches and they attached the PVC to the old outside flapper vent as opposed to continuing the 3 inch PVC through the wall and use the included terminal vent piece. They told me I needed a condensate kit. (possibly because how they made an upward slope. Your input would be appreciated.

[@cpaul1093]

Good question I am in the process of researching these high efficacy venting systems trying to figure out horizontal or a vertical vent installation wish someone would produce a video breaking down the installation process and when a condensation kit is needed.

[@1999Shortstuff]

I'm assuming this video was geared more towards plumbers in training since no verbal explanations were provided.

[@dfeller7]

What is the tool you are using on the copper joints on top of the tank

[@ChuckBarron]

pro press

[@srobeck77]

No primer before glueing the pvc vent?

[@Victor-vp7kn]

Thank you for the video. Will a power vent heather help getting the hot water sooner to my shower?

[@MoneyMarcMes]

Where does that drain go when you drill through the floor? Does is go into a crawl space so you don't have to worry about it?

[@throttlebottle5906]

ideally, you'd pipe it to a floor drain in a visible location, like basement laundry tub area or sump pump crock! very often there's a floor drain for the A/C evap right there, so that is location #1

[@ChuckBarron]

kind of crazy...but yes thats the thought.

[@davidmason2613]

It goes were it goes

[@brucegreig8375]

Goes to the lower appartment. Lol

[@greenthumb4755]

If I install a 75gal power vent could I use the existing 3” vent?

[@ChuckBarron]

sure. schedule 40 pipe.

[@RockRak367]

What was the tube you stuck in the floor for?

[@larrytheplumber9851]

Wht kind of pipe cutter is that ?

[@loganwebb1633]

are expansion tanks not required on water heaters up north? They make us put them on every water heater in Atlanta

[@TheHunterboy11495]

logan webb in Pittsburgh they are required

[@ChuckBarron]

No not here along the shore in south jersey

[@ernestrhoades5147]

You need to get a sponsorship for the press as much as you go on about it , they are sure handy tools though will change the industry .

[@ChuckBarron]

Next level of getting er done quickly.

[@samsan1156]

Can you install a power vent gas water heater where there is originally an atmospheric vent gas water heater, and use the existing chimney vent ? Or do you have to drill new holes to the outside for the power vent install ?

[@ChuckBarron]

outside wall or use chimney as a chase. you can double check with local code official too.

[@MattNis1]

Where is the exhaust condensation drain tube?

[@ChuckBarron]

what model?

[@MattNis1]

Chuck Barron any model. All power vents will experience condensation within the exhaust pipe. There is a special coupler you get that has a connection to a hose to collect and drain the condensation

[@gdavis8588]

How noisy are the vent fans?

[@ChuckBarron]

they are a bit noisy...no louder than any other power vent.

[@e1casper]

Is galvanized code for gas in your area ??

[@ChuckBarron]

Yes. The salt air in ocean makes it a requirement outside so I just stock galv for all gas work I do.

[@1999Shortstuff]

I installed a Rheem Power Vent water heater back in 1996. I vented it with a 3" PVC Sch40 pipe straight up for 24" and then immediatly exiting my home with a 45 degree elbow. Even with this 24" vertical 3" PVC pipe run, the PVC was still considerably hot to the touch to where this vertical 24" PVC pipe turned brown in a few weeks from the extreme heat. Seeing your 2" PVC 45 degree elbow coming directly out of the power vent, I would be extremely concerned that this 45 degree elbow that you used would be at risk of being severly damaged from the extreme heat coming out of the power vent.

[@ristics4690]

What kind of glue do u use for the pvc?

[@ChuckBarron]

supply house brand. I cannot recall name.

[@mrreymundo5383]

Where is that floor drain draining to? Isn't that a 2nd floor install?

[@ChuckBarron]

no...it was into a crawl space.

[@keithowu]

My AO Smith power vent is failing and I'm considering a Bradford & White. But I've read several owner reviews who knock the B&W for the blower being louder than other power vent blowers. Interested in your thoughts?

[@ChuckBarron]

They are not bad. A blower is a blower.

[@josephpuchel6497]

Hello How old is your power vent ? The newer ones are not as loud. I’m picking up a B&W for install. What did you end up doing.

[@keithowu]

@@josephpuchel6497 I ended up with the B&W. Happy so far!

[@keithowu]

@@vc8my Thank you - yes, I feel the same. Pleased with my B&W so far a year in.

[@kylemierau6367]

I noticed in your vids you guys use galvanized instead of black iron, my area is trac pipe& wardflex/copper/black. they prefer galvanized in your area for some reason?

[@ChuckBarron]

salt air....we have to use outside and I just carry all galv instead of both. I hate mixing because you know your always gonna be missing that one piece of black or galv to finish job.

[@kylemierau6367]

@@ChuckBarron yea im land locked in the middle of Canada, never seen gal before on a gas line till I started watching your vids.

[@ChuckBarron]

roger that...hockey fan? Im sure. Flyers here dawg! I use to be avid fan but as you get older who has time to watch tv sports anymore.

[@mrreymundo5383]

Is there a limit on the length of run for the exhaust?

[@ChuckBarron]

yes indeed...as per manufacturer

[@angiemoses130]

Awesome and CB2 is coming around too

[@ChuckBarron]

CB2 gaining confidence for sure. Thanks

[@angiemoses130]

Your welcome and have an awesome family

[@ChuckBarron]

thank you

[@24hrstolive27]

Do u recommend the power vent over the tankless? As far as durability and working good

[@ChuckBarron]

Tankless all the way!

[@24hrstolive27]

Is tankless complicated to install if my plumber removes the gas water heater and installs the tankless?

[@insall57]

The power vent is costly because it uses gas and electricity. Its cheaper to buy a traditional water heater

[@2823pimp]

nice work.. but why leave the old gate valve in? u r using pro-press cant take that much more .

[@ChuckBarron]

trying to remember why. let me look at vid. stand by

[@sal.pizzurro]

@@ChuckBarron still waiting....

[@blueg3027]

Hey chuck. Been wondering what kind of codes you guys got around there. If I’m doing a tank, I usually need an expansion tank, and a vacuum breaker. Also, you guys are allowed to use dwv pipe for venting? Here we need cpvc or maybe even sch 80.

[@larrytheplumber9851]

Pvc schedule 80

[@kamomo808]

Nice work Craftsman. I was researching the power vent model installations and I couldn't make out your comment at 15:35 of why the customer chose the power vent instead of "What other choices?"

[@ChuckBarron]

Good question! Customer did upgrade to power but stopped there when she could of went gold with a Tankless but did not.

[@kamomo808]

Yes thank you. I went on to research your other vids and saw that Brand name. Are you guys also on Shelter In Place? Like some of us here in CA? Your late night typing like me under lock down.

[@shawnd567]

The only reason to go power vent is if you don't have easy access to a flue. They're not much more efficient than a normal model n

[@marquezbayphotography8452]

In California we not allowed to add a angle straight out the vent. Minimum 6 inches before a bend but prefer 8-12 inches. We had a problem where the tank kept shutting off because of the way it was vented.

[@ChuckBarron]

oh wow ok....I will look that up. Thanks for that tip for sure.

[@johnhart1021]

No PVC Primer?

[@ChuckBarron]

combo...but I do know inspector wants to see color primer.

[@thankswillie]

chuck,i just picked up the same unit,50 gal,in the instructions it does say to comply with nsf requirements,unit needs to be sealed to floor w/sealant or use optional leg kit to provide min. 6" beneath...what the hell...i plan on calling ...cost 1400.00

[@armandomadrigal9793]

"And there goes another satisfied customer"!! Nice job sir.

[@ChuckBarron]

thanks a.

[@nocommentarygaming7031]

milwaukee has a m12 pvc shear you can buy thats automated like the m12 copper tube cutter

[@ChuckBarron]

roger that.

[@colecastaneda7597]

What is the purpose of the power vent? Can someone explain. Thanks

[@ChuckBarron]

great when chimney is bad. More efficient and rebatable sometimes.

[@chucknostaw2819]

I am not a plumber so I am not up on all the latest and greatest tools. That tool is for the fitting (no solder) is amazing. I would never invest it it because I am not in the industry. But if I were. Omg. Great video

[@ChuckBarron]

a game changer for sure. thanks for stopping in.

[@chrisE815]

I bought a hydraulic hand pump version before a project. Super handy for about $220. "IBOSAD Copper Tube Fittings Hydraulic Pipe Crimping Tool". Fittings are expensive bet less than Sharkbites so it's perfect for sections of plumbing where you aren't comfortable soldering.

[@pooneej]

oh wow you guys are kind of local - (vineland). I just bought a 50gallon Bradford White powervent and checking this great video out on install before I attempt it. If you guys do work in Vineland - let me know ! thanks

[@ChuckBarron]

Vineland In Da House....No we don't to far. I do use ace supply out your way though.

[@merchantshvacco868]

Adding that flex gas line I hope the house is bonded.

[@ChuckBarron]

yup! lets go

[@jeffcoolhd]

CB-1 great job I don't use flex gas lines I use black pipe only I've seen too many things happen with those flex pipes peace brother

[@throttlebottle5906]

some areas it's code and required to have flex gas supply.. mostly the shakey quakey states (like crapifalia) :))

[@ChuckBarron]

yes...flex is acceptable here. the easy way out connection for sure.

[@allenjames5629]

I was so old school...but like the idea of that pro press

[@ljc3837]

Real Nice Job Guys!

[@mrreymundo5383]

Quick tip learned from another vid: When wrapping teflon tape around nipples in tight spaces, wrap a segment of the tape around the end of a pencil first, then apply to the threads from the pencil.

[@ChuckBarron]

thanks Mr. Rey....appreciate that.

[@tomm5898]

I was hoping this video would discuss the benefits of choosing a power vent?

[@ChuckBarron]

More efficient, no need for chimney. Tankless even better! Both possible rebates from gas company. 👍🏻👍🏻

[@tomm5898]

@@ChuckBarron Thanks for the response!

[@luvmybeemer]

CB I live on Staten Island and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a plumbing supply house here sell Bradford White. I see you use them all the time, are they that good? Plenty of AO Smith for sure in the supply houses and Rheem is big in Home Depot, not sure what Lowe’s carries.

[@ChuckBarron]

Yes. They good. AO smith took over a local supply house here too. so Im sure they good too. No home depot or lowes for me for gas fixtures.

[@luvmybeemer]

Chuck Barron I just changed (March 2018) out my old Rheem water heater that lasted 12 years, with another Rheem. The first Rheem was installed by one of those water heater companies that only do water heaters. Decent price for 12 years ago. So I decided to use another Rheem (unfortunately had to use Home Depot, they had the same size Rheem in stock) and do this one myself. It basically fit right in where the old one was, so a simple and I mean SIMPLE replacement. Cost was the price of the heater and $125 to my buddy for his van and help. Hoping I get another 10-12 years out of this one. Keep up the great videos, love them!

[@michaelking5764]

NO ABS?!?😂 That is a great unit "plumbers choice" perfect job for CB2 and Angelo here in just a few more months. Great job big Chuck

[@ChuckBarron]

lol.. thanks mike

[@davidreynolds5439]

No expansion tank?

[@ChuckBarron]

Not required here.

[@bobmorleyjr4943]

My luck there would be a floor joist right where the pan drain hole was drilled LOL

[@throttlebottle5906]

if it's not tile floor, peck it with a hammer and cloth, the sound will be a dull low thud where floor joists are, when your between them it will be higher pitch hollow and "ring/springy" :) I can usually tell just by stepping hard with one foot and watching for flex, even with tile.

[@bobmorleyjr4943]

@@throttlebottle5906 true if there wasn't tile

[@ChuckBarron]

I actually went under house and measured off gas line to make sure.....If not i would of hit it for sure too.....ha...

[@allenjames5629]

Lol been there done that...lol lol

[@peterboissiere9684]

Nice job

[@ChuckBarron]

thank you

[@ljc3837]

Great Job Boss!!!

[@vinrod34]

No expansion tank needed??

[@ChuckBarron]

No sir....not here

[@throttlebottle5906]

hehe, dead center of the diagonal brace strap. you should have left it in tact and moved you're hole IRL. I usually go with long 1/4" twist drill bit and gently, then use long flathead cabinet screw driver(round shank) to feel around in the wall, never know when there will be major structural or other things like electric, plumbing, hvac, etc. sure is a ton easier to caulk a small hole vs patch a huge one and likely nobody will notice/complain :)

[@ChuckBarron]

ya good idea...I may of missed it with your tip to because it was flat on outside sheathing.

[@Originalsmp]

Thanks for this comment...It's Probably 100 comments down from the top someone calls out the fact he cut a structual strap. I get it, retro work can be tough as hell but there was a path to victory INCHES AWAY! I saw that strap the instant the drywall plug came out! Maybe consider replacing this install video with another without a terrible example for the next generation of plumbers.

[@throttlebottle5906]

@@Originalsmp wow harsh. not everyone knows carpentry and framing enough to know about diagonal bracing and the likes. simply paying attention to things in new construction helps, even if you the electrician or plumber, you quickly learn what to not cut, drill or notch, as you'll get smacked on the head hard =p

[@louietheplumber3609]

Clean job chuck , you should carry pro press ball valves

[@ChuckBarron]

ya know I was gonna change it if that valve gave me any hint of a problem...it did not so I moved on.

[@peterboissiere9684]

I'm glad to see the pvc cutter

[@ChuckBarron]

yes sir...

[@mikehays6526]

from fellow plumber in michgan keep teaching your boys like the music in the background

[@ChuckBarron]

Thanks Mike.....appreciate that.

[@dallasyorgason5877]

Is the piping you used for the power vent 2 in or 3 in?

[@ChuckBarron]

2".

[@larrytheplumber9851]

On 2 inch pvc u can only go 45 ft to vent.3 inch 115 to vent each 90 is 5 ft.45s are 3 ft

[@merchantshvacco868]

You should have gone to top floor sink and opened the aerator

[@ChuckBarron]

lessons daily.

[@BeulahRWalker]

Greetings all the Way from The City of Detroit .....Let's Plumb

[@ChuckBarron]

Detroit in Da House!!! Plumb On!

[@robertkat]

lets Plastic. Plumb is long gone!

[@insall57]

Where's the pan?? It's set on a finished floor

[@kylemierau6367]

love the copper drop on the relief, im a cheap bastard and prefer the premade plastic drops myself

[@ChuckBarron]

its copper only because thats what im using...lol

[@dewaltpropicture9909]

Someone has a new and lighter PressTool 👌👌👌👌

[@ChuckBarron]

show and tell.....ha.....

[@patricksimone1238]

I was letting my 70 year old man use the propress today,it blew his mind,he kept asking me are you sure it’s going to hold lol

[@throttlebottle5906]

he's most likely right in wondering so and time will tell, city/chemical injected water eats every other type of rubber in plumbing known to man, so it;s only a matter of time ;)

[@ChuckBarron]

awesome.....

[@ChuckBarron]

t, that would be more service work....its a big circle of plumbing love

[@josephpuchel6497]

Hey It fit in that spot perfect. You have those gas fittings setup down pat. Excellent video.

[@ChuckBarron]

Thanks 👍appreciate that.

[@lxc1227]

With a setup like this, it is impossible to service to blower or anode rod. Tankless water heater probably makes more sense in this application.

[@ChuckBarron]

So tight..She did not want the tankless. I tried.

[@Grace17893]

Love it man God bless

[@GasmanChris5705]

Loving the videos CB keep em coming UK CB 🇬🇧

[@ChuckBarron]

UK in da house....thanks Chris

[@ratchriat1716]

top work next time let cb2 clime up the ladder loved the video.

[@ChuckBarron]

CB2 loves ladders

[@spencerwilton5831]

In Europe that whole roomful of junk would be replaced with a single combi boiler around the size of a microwave oven, serving both central heating and hot water. That setup looks like something from a soviet bunker, and not in a good way.

[@ChuckBarron]

true that..send pics brother.

[@heslind]

I just got quoted 15k for a combi boiler. Is this normal?!

[@johnpacella9519]

First “how to” video I’ve seen with exactly zero information on “how to”.

[@ChuckBarron]

and its free.....lol

[@kaaaah2003]

He was suppose to explain steps particularly drilling on floor.

[@Ken_Myette]

Really should user PVC primer

[@ChuckBarron]

Yes for sure. I also was informed purple cleaner only because inspector can see it.

[@Ken_Myette]

@@ChuckBarron yes purple is best. I've seen those vents come apart over time. Because of no cleaner

[@randallbreen7365]

gas piping looks like crap and galvanized not allowed on gas here

[@hectorgonzalezcustodio5582]

Well, thanks for not telling anyone what your doing and how to do it

[@jimbrumbaugh4438]

It gets so hot I can smell plastic when I am taking a shower.

[@ChuckBarron]

low temp

[@shantor100]

You always have to move the ladder 😤

[@ChuckBarron]

no doubt....ha.

[@joshmcfate9687]

mannnnnn.... that’s about the extent of our soldering for today... 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ChuckBarron]

we were close....ha

[@RubenHernandez-kx4gv]

4 mins in and had to dislike the video. .... since 1993 and couldn’t even throw a canvas to protect customer’s floor . Or un-sweat the pipes when water heater was removed. Anyways....

[@ChuckBarron]

hey....thanks for stopping in dawg...we take the good and the bad. Plumb On.

[@sal.pizzurro]

@@ChuckBarron always such a calm reply from you..you sure you're from Jersey? 🤪

[@hiddenface4989]

Not reaming your copper and then you pro press your fittings?? Man at least sweat it together like a professional would

[@ChuckBarron]

cmon....i am pro. No more toxic smoke for me.

[@rocket6277]

Slipshod work...

[@mikewinterhalt3024]

You sure don’t explain much.

[@ChuckBarron]

deep in thought....ha

[@CurlyQLink]

Zero, Zip, Zilch, Nada, Nothing. I hope that explains this video.

[@jakec5618]

what was the hole into the ground for? u made it near the end of the video? thanks...