This deck was quite rough to work with, but I've been really enjoying these Patreons decks recently. They make for quite intriguing videos! :)
@HackionSTx4 жыл бұрын
I'm loving this new format. Imagine helping support daddy Chump and still getting worthwhile content.
@thomasackerman64154 жыл бұрын
Everybody wins: Chump gets that sweet Patreon money and we get more videos
@smokinmirrors84384 жыл бұрын
Chump goes full Arnold Schwarzenegger from Predator at 11:48 "CMON DO IT! WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR, IM RIGHT HERE. JUST DO IT"🤣
@johngleeman83474 жыл бұрын
Blood Herald finally got to smash face as he has always dreamed of doing in that last game! XD
@Kogirius4 жыл бұрын
Love this format, showcases memes plus deck analysis plus deck improvement, wins and losses... really nice.
@cheeziobodini4 жыл бұрын
clearly this deck is gonna be bad without my boi nethrandumus
@RealPrismsword4 жыл бұрын
Out of all of the cards suggested here this one was my greatest regret not including in an initial list.
@HackionSTx4 жыл бұрын
@@RealPrismsword I know Nethrandamus is shit but I don't know why daddy Chump didn't try it at least once. It IS the payoff card for this archetype.
@RealPrismsword4 жыл бұрын
@@HackionSTx I think the main detractor which pushed me and Chump away (at least for this version of the list) is that it went a little too all in with the Vilefiend trainers, if there's too many high costed payoffs then the Vilefiends become a little too hard to outcast sometimes.
@HackionSTx4 жыл бұрын
@@RealPrismsword that's true, but I don't know which one is better, the Vilefiends as the payoff or Nethrandamus.
@TheSquareOnes4 жыл бұрын
He's bad but he's honestly not thaaaaat bad, he definitely should've at least tried it out here. I played with the card when the class first came out and while it was and still is obviously far from the best thing a demon hunter can be doing it's still really easy to get it up to being about as strong as the average Alex which even post-nerf is still one of the best cards in the game. The main issue is that it's absolute trash when you're in topdeck mode, but with enough cycling and minions to trade away it's definitely the ideal big finisher for this style of deck. Most people don't survive a zoo deck suddenly dropping three 9-drops right when they were about to stabilize, y'know?
@RealPrismsword4 жыл бұрын
Ayyy it's here.
@RealPrismsword4 жыл бұрын
"Unfortunately I'm forced to play Wrathscale Naga" LMAOOOO
@MCY1124 жыл бұрын
Oof, in the end he couldn't make it work
@RealPrismsword4 жыл бұрын
Also watching the steady rank decline from 6k to 7k because of this deck has been painful. I promise the next deck I submit will be higher tier or be even more meme-ier.
@MCY1124 жыл бұрын
@@RealPrismsword While stuff with a cool concept is certainly worth a try, I think the heart of a good meme deck isn't in its tier, but in it's funniness. Even if the deck may be crap or be good, I think the key thing is that it is entertaining to play.
@RealPrismsword4 жыл бұрын
@@MCY112 yeah that's understandable. When I had the chance to submit deck lists there wasn't too much that interested me since I already pretty much already did all the op stuff I wanted to do with the expansion (ramp druid/mage shenanigans) So I went for more entertainment value in what I think others could enjoy watching and I think bad demon hunter archetypes are always a treat (some people were even requesting it after I sent in the list so im glad I went that direction lol). Although my favorite bad demon hunter lists are highlander or anti-aggro control/big demons. But I wanted to see if Chump could pilot or muster something up. But I don't think the freshman class has enough tools yet to make this work lol.
@SomersBugtopia4 жыл бұрын
This deck was really painful to play, it felt like every draw was a brick. I tried hard but it's a decent meme. Edit: With Fel Guardians. You know, the worse Feral Spirit. The second big reward card of the archetype.
@filippomilan26564 жыл бұрын
this version is very bad tbh, I piloted one I made to like diamond 5.
@patience18354 жыл бұрын
i tried some feast of souls token demon hunter and the reason about the brick draws is because you can really literally search through in this token meta with command the illidari +feast . it plays like a midrange deck and most cards hit like a truck if played on curve.
@RealPrismsword4 жыл бұрын
My main annoyance with Fel Guardians isnt the power level of the card, I just hate how it doesn't include the "while in hand" text. I really feel like it should've included it somewhere.
@Shiek2004 жыл бұрын
I played a version that ran fel guardians but I didn't run feast of souls, and instead of playing a beat down deck I went a more control route, with the whole soul shard package and magtheridon, using the tokens for early game board control and chip damage, and the token payoff cards as finishers. I just ran lots of draw, silence and removal, knife juggler helps both with chip damage against control decks and dealing with stealth rogue, but overall it's still just not a very good archetype, it's payoff cards are too easy to deal with for too many classes right now, and druid can do basically the same thing for MUCH less effort.
@Nemzee134 жыл бұрын
I use Nethrandamus in my token deck. easy enough to get 2x10 drops from it.
@fracktar4 жыл бұрын
New patreon vids are cool, nice to get a load of new stuff more consistently. Here's hoping the channel grows even more
@Luckin-Fegend4 жыл бұрын
like the approach, to incl some changes and hear your thoughts on the deck mid video (what you usally do at the end, as far as I know) and directly seeing some action with the next iteration. keep on the good content! lots of love
@drewpeacock90874 жыл бұрын
19:30 Just on my deck building instincts upon getting to this point in the video, I think 2x Raid leader and cutting the 1x Command the Illidari is iffy to me, think it's best to try and keep the engine as healthy as possible especially when experimenting, and double raid leader is a bit much for me, I'd start with 1 as it's more situational (Especially when not including Dire Doggy, Odd Paladin could only play Odd card remember!). Love the content and I'm not trying to "correct you" at all (especially as you are probably a better deckbuilder, especially for aggro decks) just sharing what I thought cause that's the most interesting part of card games to me and why you are one of my favourite Hearthstone KZbinrs
@gtpizzabites4 жыл бұрын
I’d add a nethradamus ( the demon hunter dragon) as a finisher
@tchem4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i mean, the moment I read the title I was sure it was in the deck, such a powerful card, also Naga did win some games with the 6 1/1 rush minions..
@styxxhs80484 жыл бұрын
Is this version running, the 3/1 that deals 3 damage to the enemies face or board everytime a friendly minion dies?! Thats what made the old version scary in a pinch.. but i dont remember its name.. hehe! But its really good with token w/rush generation... Edit: Wrathscale naga.. i think its name is! Definitely needed in a token dh.. the trainer that summons 2 - 1/1’s not so much imo.. Edit 2: i wrote all of this before getting to the middle part of the video.. im so surprised naga was passed up on, when changes to the deck were made.. hell, maybe you change it more.. im 21 min into the video.. lets see!! Edit 3: YEEEEAAAAA!!!!! After that 1 game, deck changes were made, and we finally saw the light!! Haha! j/k! But yea if you were trying to make a different kind of token dh.. i dont think there is another way really.. maybe some healing weapons instead of trueaim crescents.. since you have twin slices.. you could heal quite a little bit.. to last that 1 more turn or so to win! But yeah! Nice video Chump! Thanks! 🤘🏻😜
@styxxhs80484 жыл бұрын
Token demon hunter is actually a thing, and was actually really good when this expansion first came out.. i havent seen it too much recently.. but it was tearing through some ladder a month or so ago... it was the only deck, i was like, ‘awwwe damn’ when i qued against them.. then.. the rise of soulsharting demon hunter came along.. and i havent seen it since! So its cool to see someone try it again! Cheers! 🤘🏻😜
@W.E.B.DaBoys4 жыл бұрын
Chump is the new Deck Doctor
@Aldrius4 жыл бұрын
I have been trying so hard to make this concept work. The best version I had just ran all the typical tempo Demon Hunter stuff and then some token stuff splashed in. The problem I always had with Blood Herald is it was never big enough by turn 5. Even if I drew it right away.
@dabounaaj4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if you play it for tempo early then effectively your best case scenario is it behaving similar to a decently well discounted giant which would be great in a vacuum, but for something you actually had to build your deck around, it's just not enough to close out games And I think saving up for a massive one is just too much of a meme cause your opponent is for sure going to be holding any single target hard removal he's drawn since he saw you play command the illidari and immediately knew what must be eventually coming
@Aldrius4 жыл бұрын
@@dabounaaj Like honestly, I can't even get it to an 8/8 by turn 5. I dunno what this card is really good for. Especially compared to like Argent Braggart.
@A1phaz0ne4 жыл бұрын
Oof. Tried Raid Leader, but not even one game with Sir Nethrandumus? That's TOOOOO disrespectful Chump :(
@User-gg5ks4 жыл бұрын
Now, we need same thing, but in hunter
@probablynotmyname85214 жыл бұрын
I think the issue is that there is no buffs available for the tokens, raid leaders, knife jugglers and dire wolf are all aggro type cards so dont really count.
@gugugugu33714 жыл бұрын
I think tokens are better in some kind of control anti aggro demon hunter, with the legendary dh dragon, wrathscale naga and the illidari spells, but sadly, it does not synergise well with blood herald.
@tchem4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, the Naga and netrandamus play is much stronger than a single x/x, who could get easily polimorphed, the dragon gives you big value, while the Naga play with the 6 rush minion spell might push over 10 dmg to face in a single turn
@gugugugu33714 жыл бұрын
@@tchem yeah exactly, i made a deck back in Ashes of Outland with those synergies + moarg artificier, à bunch of AOEs, the lifesteal spells, it was pretty nice to play, the naga play was mostly good for destroying big boards It still had a bad winrate, since I was mostly facing priests and mages, the problem of the deck was the lack of win condition
@JBrambleBerry4 жыл бұрын
Does Truaim Crescent have minions attack in order played or left to right like Battlegrounds?
@RealPrismsword4 жыл бұрын
Trueaim Crescent is order played.
@styxxhs80484 жыл бұрын
This deck needs draw.. whether its skull, panthara, or spectral sight... right?! Broomstick is a good add.. especially if your going to keep the trainers..
@ASConviction4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking glide to deal with those aoes.
@wahed67044 жыл бұрын
I have tried this archetype with a different take on it, you go for command the illadari and all the rush things with wrathscale naga and and draw you cut blood herald because there are simply too many answers in this meta you use souls to and wrathscale to burn opponent down knife juggler also can be decent, also sea giant is better than herald
@keiganogrady74814 жыл бұрын
I built a deck completely maxed out on swarm, and baited out all the removal from a priest. Which ended up with me hitting face with like a 45/45
@Radiuhh4 жыл бұрын
I made a deck like this 2 weeks ago. It is AWFUL. But it’s fun. Oh and try Cycle of Hatred, that card is actually surprisingly good.
@darklordinateur4 жыл бұрын
Wait it's a token deck that doesn't run the one DH payoff, Wraithscale naga?
@sergiomorawsky43734 жыл бұрын
Just in case someone else want to try a different approach to this archetype: AAECAea5AwKrBrzGAw6xCMedA4upA9ipA4u6A6O7A9i7A/i7A4m8A6m8A5XNA4LQA77SA8jSAwA= I made this deck in the first week of scholomance and refine it the following days. Also it works pretty well as aggro in tournament play, but not so great in ladder. You basically want to play tokens on curve and combo then with your other token oriented cards, if you dont find them you want to do sick plays drawing 5-8 cards with soul feast and sect master (this one lets you draw your blood herald or nethrandamus and buff it the same turn, if you keep trading). You can play aggro or trade, it depends on the matchup (but the deck is designed for trading payoff) -You ALWAYS want to mullligan into ONE and only ONE hand buffed card (i used to run 2 copies of fel guards but i ended up cutting then). -I sacrifice a little my turn 1 play because you dont really need it if you want to do this trade-draw plays wich keeps the deck going (only 2 copies of a 1 drop playable on turn one, so use the card of your choice). -Animated broomstick is to keep relevant your blood herald after turn 5 because it can trade into big things at least. -Rush minions are perfect to trigger a lot of cards in the deck when some of your tokens die. -Demon companion its exclusively for the +1 attack buff of course -your main finisher is going full board ,or full rush turn, into wrathscale naga -My main concern with this build was the lack of no minion damage wich is none, so i´ll put 2 copies of the soul demon weapon Pls notice me Daddy Chump ^_^ I wanted you to try this deck early this season, but i cant afford giving you a patreon because i live in argentina and taxes are killing us. But i really apreciate your content.
@cellistrae9944 жыл бұрын
I like this deck. It's all about boosting a card called "Herald" gain power each time a friend dies, as an Avenger will do. This Herald is of course a bat, because it must look bad. To survive, it must be protected by a Cloack, which leads to think this Herald of Justice is in fact a Cloacked Avenger. Midgame is nigh, he is the shadow in the dark, he claims vengeance for his lost friends, he is the night, his is the vengeance...He is...the Herald.
@nnikfl37704 жыл бұрын
You unironically included fel guardians and raid leader as pay off cards but not naga or nethrandumus...its not worth dropping the quality of your amazing channel
@drewendrisk4 жыл бұрын
Deck Doctor with Daddy Chump
@MEGURMAN4 жыл бұрын
I'm ready :)
@MEGURMAN4 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there. Incase anyone missed it "you are not prepared" is what the demon hunter says, the phrase can also be used to counter my comment of "I'm ready" implying that I am in fact not ready
@shypeOW4 жыл бұрын
@@MEGURMAN Thanks for explaining that joke, I would have been very sad if I missed it. Incase anyone missed it, this was irony, and it is funny because explaining a joke is very annoying, and useless for such an obvious joke
@MEGURMAN4 жыл бұрын
@@shypeOW I don't think you meant irony I think you meant sarcasm, still I get your point but at the end of the day I was just trying to help :(
@shypeOW4 жыл бұрын
@@MEGURMAN You are probably right for the wording (I'm not English). But keep in mind that explaining a joke is like dissecting a frog: you know how it works, but it's dead :)
@MEGURMAN4 жыл бұрын
@@shypeOW sorry I didn't realise English isn't your first language the rest of the comment was perfect so my apologies
@Revinance884 жыл бұрын
What about Sea Giant as a payoff? He may also be a big idiot, but at least he's strong against silence. Also, ditto other comments - I'm liking this new video format and it gets our boy paid to make more content! Win-win.
@fantasticjes4 жыл бұрын
Thanks RealPrismwords! Bummer the meta just has so much board clears
@rexanaxer4 жыл бұрын
I hold spite for Realprismsword immensely
@hanyuzhu72764 жыл бұрын
Raid Leader is definitely a better card than Naga, it’s basically a mini-Savage Roar on a stick that can finish games, while Naga does nothing if your opponent doesn’t have a board
@Xaybas4 жыл бұрын
No knife juggler, Nethrandamus, Fel guardians/cycle of hatred, Wrathscale Naga ? Hardly a token deck
@jordanlutz83074 жыл бұрын
You're gonna want nethrandamus.
@amethonys27984 жыл бұрын
You kept talking about wanting pay off cards and Nethrandramus is just crying while on screen not being acknowledged :(
@IIxIxIv4 жыл бұрын
Druid summoning consistent 2/2s while DH summons 1/1s. Without more support it's very hard to justify token DH over token druid.
@barrytschirpig93284 жыл бұрын
11:09 That was tilting for us to watch though...
@badwulff4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic about it not being tilting
@ishga14074 жыл бұрын
@@badwulff Rule of thumb: Whenever you can't tell if Chump is being sarcastic or not, he is
@barrytschirpig93284 жыл бұрын
@@badwulff Yeah, I know, just he managed to play it off so smoothly.
@nerflapp4 жыл бұрын
this needs some card draw, and broom
@jewishdictionary17154 жыл бұрын
HELLO DADDY CHUMP
@ericshun33314 жыл бұрын
Token druid but without the good cards
@Discerned_4 жыл бұрын
3 Mana 2/2? ouch.
@kuaifan5724 жыл бұрын
give daddy some good decks pls :)
@emilrye-holmboe25664 жыл бұрын
Idk man, would consider a 25$ pledge if it was onlyfans instead of patreon, give it a thought will ya?;)
@gaetans26654 жыл бұрын
Just played through the Jaina adventure, and thought : "Wouldn't it be fun if Chump made a Lore-freindly 'competitve-meme' deck ? "' Like, no alliance/horde heroes or creatures mixed, etc. (Didn't play WoW so my understanding of the Warcraft lore is limited)
@rynetutewiler56284 жыл бұрын
Playing terrible decks because someone paid you to? Man that sounds brutal.
@a2000374 жыл бұрын
I've seen noone complain so here's my friendly reminder that mage is a garbage class whose sole purpose is to ignore board for 8 turns straigth then burn you to death alongside minions you can't contest because it's the 5th turn in a row your board has been frozen