Ciaikovskij-Concerto no.1 b flat op.23-Rubinstein A.,RAI Torino,Argento P.-May 17th,1968-Torino

Ciaikovskij Concerto no.1 b flat op.23
Arthur Rubinstein
RAI Torino
Pietro Argento
May 17th, 1968
Torino

[@alerisso3906]

Excelente.arthur maravilloso, el mejor

[@ingmo9]

Beloved and wonderful Rubinstein. ❤

[@domenicocacace6856]

Orchestra e direttore un disastro! Argento non riesce a seguire lo splendido fraseggio di Rubinstein, ma l’immenso pianista conserva la calma e riesce comunque a regalarci momenti di altissima poesia e tecnica straordinaria

[@lucachierici413]

È un po' responsabilità di tutti e due a dire il vero, ma resta un grande documento

[@paolosavio6008]

orchestra imbarazzante e direttore scarsissimo

[@r.wagner5409]

Do konca pięknie grał i mówił w ojczystym języku -po polsku .Co za umysł!!!

[@annatirindelli8879]

Una grande emozione che mi riporta agli anni precedenti allo studio della musica in cui pattinavo su queste meravigliose note....Grazie di cuore per questo Video, prezioso Gioiello di Interpretazione Magistrale, Unica ed Inimitabile 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🌷🌹🌷🌹🌷🌹 Cordiali saluti, Anna

[@benjamin1032]

Incredible to think that he was 81 in this performance.

[@VeguldenZilverling]

Hi Igor! How's COVID treating you?

[@benjamin1032]

A bit roughly, but good news: during the lockdown I have been writing the Rite of Summer, and its dropping in May 2021

[@solracpilino1967]

@@benjamin1032 😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏

[@cristinavelazcoamorin511]

Que tengo que hacer para recuperar la técnica después de tanto tiempos?!!

[@giuseppemariaperego8937]

Ottave impressionanti ❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉Giuseppe

[@eldorado5123]

c'est magnifique ,très beau ,très émouvant

[@giuseppemariaperego8937]

Primo tempo fantastico ❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉Giuseppe

[@Barbapippo]

At 8:30, catastrophe....Anyway, Maestro Argento was a good conductor, and "accidents" can occur to anyone.

[@alejandroguzmanroldan]

!!Bravissimo Arthur!!!👏👏👏👏👏💚

[@giuseppemariaperego8937]

Evviva 🎉🎉🎉 Rest in peace Grande Maestro Artur Rubinstein ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉Giuseppe Perego Monza 16.2.1962 Grazie

[@waynesmith3767]

A lesson in how a great pianist can give a great performance whatever the circumstances; the conductor and orchestra aren’t with him very much but he makes no fuss about that and delivers nonetheless; he’s seen and heard them all and probably had far worse in his career. He’s probably more forgiving than the KZbin critics; he knows how hard it is; one of the things that made him such a sublime player was his ability to play so well was his lack of hubris-Rubenstein knew how right his own critics were about the wrong notes he often played were!

[@lorenzodaponte2827]

81 anni e non sentirli...

[@silversmith1285]

L ECCELLENZA DEL GRANDE ,MAGNIFICO RUBINSTEIN ,PENALIZZATA NEL 1 TEMPO DALLA MEDIOCRITÀ DI QUESTO DIRETTORE CHE NON RIESCE A FAR ANDARE L ORCHESTRA A TEMPO CON IL PIANISTA...!!

[@davidemarchi6366]

Si fa veramente cag...

[@fabriziomariagarzi5534]

@@davidemarchi6366, certo, ha sciupato molto, Argento, ma Gatti non e' meglio e neppure Abbado jr.

[@paolosavio6008]

orchestra imbarazzante e direttore incapace

[@Burno136]

Nice one....thanks a million for this

[@giuseppemariaperego8937]

Secondo tempo idem ❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉Giuseppe

[@goodmanmusica]

Finalmente la versione completa!

[@guilhermeassef8028]

when the octaves come, the camera go out '-'

[@BenedettaSaglietti]

Grazie!

[@highpeaksphil]

If I can play octaves like that at 81 I’ll be more than happy

[@UYTRELLO]

Merevigliose!

[@andreamartini6543]

Sublime

[@highpeaksphil]

For his encore he played Chopin Scherzo No2 and then Ritual Fire Dance. By which time most of the orchestra and snook off stage

[@nelsonpardo8333]

Hermosicimao

[@jasperpabroa4737]

The orchestra is destroying it

[@VeguldenZilverling]

Well here the question arises whether it is because of the conductor or orchestra.

[@user-pe4xl4sn8h]

21:27 who is he?

[@kimsahl8555]

Rubinstein in his prime time = Chopin + Schumann (early prime time = Chopin op.28).

[@giovannidellacroce7588]

20:05 doesn't seem wrong?? I'm not sure it is right what Rubinstein played

[@VeguldenZilverling]

Well he was blind at this point I think. Could be because of this.

[@VeguldenZilverling]

Furthermore, the conductor cannot seem to follow Rubinstein as he should throughout the pieces.

[@herbmuell]

The orchestra was out of sync with him, so he decided to toss in a few wrong notes to wake them up.

[@huismanq]

@@VeguldenZilverling He certainly was not blind in 1968! Problems with his eyesight began in the 70s, around 1975.

[@VeguldenZilverling]

@@huismanq thanks for the correction:)

[@laughinloveforever6707]

Thanks a lot for the upload! Great Rubinstein, but horrible orchestra-conducting! Never heard such a bad communication between soloist and conductor.

[@andrewkennaugh1065]

laughinlove forever ... You need to get out more...!😊😂

[@kaleidoscopio5]

Hard audience

[@sey5858]

28:30

[@arturozeballos1]

final raro.....pero ARRAU el mejor de su tiempo por muchos motivos y también lo toco 100 veces en su vida..

[@alexleach6307]

Something seems to go seriously awry in the orchestral ensemble following 8'35 - they end up at last a beat out with Rubinstein at the end of the climactic phrase. And the end off the first movement is almost a catastrophe - the conductor seems at fault, his tempi are too elastic and the ensemble with the soloist falls apart. Some of the audience booing at the end seems to sum it all up...

[@lucachierici413]

it's not "booing" but request of encores (in italian "Bis") !!!

[@kaleidoscopio5]

@@lucachierici413 sounds like an angry audience.....😬

[@TomD67]

Around 35:30, the very end of the last movement, it seems as if Rubinstein drops a beat himself, so that there is a similar raggedness there. Nonetheless, I'm very grateful to Luca Chierici for posting this video -- every Rubinstein performance has some wonderful aspects.

[@astridschlegel7681]

Too careful a performance

[@wombat5628]

The conductor was looking down at the score and turning pages much (edit: most) of the time; is that normal?

[@lorenzorossi6567]

La direzione d'orchestra mi è sembrata molto approssimativa, soprattutto nel primo movimento

[@lucachierici413]

Ma ha letto i commenti precedenti ?

[@lorenzorossi6567]

@@lucachierici413 Sì. Quindi? Esprimo anch'io la mia perplessità sulla (mal) riuscita di questa esecuzione. Tra l'altro ci sono diversi altri elementi di perplessità. Questo non toglie che oggi orchestre come quella della RAI di Torino ce le rimpiangiamo.

[@lucachierici413]

Lorenzo Rossi si tratta di uno dei documenti più straordinari di un pianista e di un'epoca che tutti rimpiangono. Non capisco davvero come ci si possa intestardire su un bisticcio d'assieme che poco o nulla toglie alla magia di questo documento.

[@lorenzorossi6567]

@@lucachierici413 Il valore documentale è una cosa, il valore dell'esecuzione è un'altra, penso sia onestà intellettuale riconoscerlo. Lo dico da non musicista (purtroppo), e con stima alla sua professione e alla sua figura.

[@lucachierici413]

@@lorenzorossi6567 e un altro parametro importantissimo da tenere in considerazione è la priorità nel tempo. Quanti pianisti c'erano nel 1968 che suonavano così e quante orchestre, con un numero di prove che sarà stato pari quasi a zero? Oggi si potranno ascoltare miriadi di pianisti meccanicamente perfetti che sono quando va bene la fotocopia del passato.

[@stephanebeauv1176]

C’est quand même fou ce chef qui n’arrive pas à suivre Rubinstein.... complètement à coté parfois...

[@ludvikctrnacty9464]

The most terrible performance I have ever heard. Arthur in a perfect shape, the orchestra almost amateurs... sorry for Arthur

[@billinrio]

The boos at the end pretty much sum up the quality of this performance.

[@lucachierici413]

You are wrong

[@billinrio]

@@lucachierici413 Well, how do explain the boos?

[@lucachierici413]

@@billinrio The boos are manifestations of Joy, not criticism!

[@billinrio]

@@lucachierici413 Yeah, sure, Luca ........ people are jumping up and down with joy.

[@MaScalo4508]

@@billinrio Do you hear the clapping? Apart from the fact that they are saying BIS which means encore, and, since the film is old, the audio is a bit distorted.

[@paolosavio6008]

Come rovinare un concerto... direttore incapace e orchestra imbarazzante. Eppure non sono riusciti a rovinare la poesia di Rubinstein.

[@lucachierici413]

Se ne è già parlato a lungo. Si è trattato di un incidente di percorso, tra l'altro non da imputare al solo direttore.

[@meyerbeer13]

the piano sucks it hasn't been regulated. The hammers aren't aligned.

[@florinmatasaru635]

what the heck was that ? these people have no shame , including Rubinstein . They mocked the piano concerto from a to z, a deplorable rendition. I counted more than 180 audible mistakes( to you , listeners , are you deaf , too ? ....what the hell is going on here ? the orchestra is sounding awful and the pianist is completely deaf, no rhythm. if the conductor was stupid then why did Rubinstein accept to play anyway ?if Tchaicovsky had attended the CONCERT he would have had a heart attack, pretty sure about it . shame on them , a disaster throughout the concert . being old doesn't spare you from serious criticism .

[@lucachierici413]

Perhaps you prefer to listen to "perfect" icy sounds ?