Ciara Discovers Her Ancestors' Hidden Relationship | Finding Your Roots | PBS

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4 ай бұрын

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DNA research helps Ciara Harris discover one of her biological ancestors was not who the records show, and that a relationship must have occurred between this mystery man and her great-great grandmother.
Ciara is a Grammy Award winning singer/songwriter, entrepreneur, and philanthropist. During her 20-year career, she has sold over 23 million records and 22 million singles worldwide, including chart-topping hits “Goodies,” “Ride,” “Oh,” “1, 2 Step,” “I Bet,” and “Level Up.”
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Renowned scholar Dr. Henry Louis Gates, Jr. guides influential guests into their roots, uncovering deep secrets, hidden identities and lost ancestors. Using genealogical detective work and cutting-edge DNA analysis, Gates guides influential guests deep into the branches of their family trees, revealing surprising stories of forgotten ancestors that transcend borders, illuminating an American root system fortified by its diversity.

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@medusagorgon8432
@medusagorgon8432 4 ай бұрын
This made me very sad. I doubt it was consensual. The timeline alone speaks volumes. The men were out in the field practically every day, all day. It would be easy for a man to assault a lone woman (without basic human rights) and get away with it.💔
@alittlepieceofearth
@alittlepieceofearth 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. Especially if that man had power.
@lisalking2476
@lisalking2476 4 ай бұрын
💔
@shaninnmarie
@shaninnmarie 4 ай бұрын
This is exactly the reason you will never hear me (a white woman) claim to be Cherokee in any way. My Native American ancestor was a Cherokee woman from the Kansas/Oklahoma area. The problem is that my ancestor dates to around the time of the Trail of Tears.
@Iprsmrk
@Iprsmrk 4 ай бұрын
This was what I thought immediately.
@Iprsmrk
@Iprsmrk 4 ай бұрын
This was what I thought immediately.
@jesselle_
@jesselle_ 4 ай бұрын
Shid y’all talking about if she had a choice, her husband barely had a choice to confront him and protect her if it was assault. Very little changed between slavery and sharecropping. May that woman’s soul rest in peace ♥️
@kennys.2827
@kennys.2827 3 ай бұрын
Or maybe she wanted it or just complied because of the power dynamic
@thedayaftertomorrow9502
@thedayaftertomorrow9502 3 ай бұрын
I actually find it offensive the way they're trivializing what was very likely SA of a BW at a time when BP (especially BW) barely had any rights with this love is love nonsense. It's sick.
@lapislazulii141
@lapislazulii141 2 ай бұрын
They love ⚪️ then as they do now
@Domino1972
@Domino1972 2 ай бұрын
like he said 'desire is color blind' Affairs like this happened all the time.
@luckylucy6704
@luckylucy6704 2 ай бұрын
@@thedayaftertomorrow9502 Oh I'm almost certain that it was SA. SA of sharecropper's wives by WM was one of the most common forms at the time. Acknowledging that doesn't mesh with the agenda apparently.
@bigBsMom
@bigBsMom 3 ай бұрын
Ummmmm ... Trust me on this: THAT was NOT a "consensual" relationship!!
@britavega
@britavega 4 ай бұрын
The fact that they’re making it seem like an affair when he said, the 2 men were in on deceiving the husband in order to take advantage of his wife is wild. This is why some people stay in a world of delusion
@ndo533
@ndo533 4 ай бұрын
When did he say that ? I didnt hear that part
@britavega
@britavega 4 ай бұрын
@@ndo533 listen to it again
@user-sz1wq2wz7c
@user-sz1wq2wz7c 4 ай бұрын
upsetting
@starsINSPACE
@starsINSPACE 4 ай бұрын
​​@@ndo533I think they are referring to the part where Walker Head and Whit Torbet were involved in why the husband Nathan was working 80 miles away from home. If Emily stayed back in the other county then she was alone more which could have been unsafe and if she went with Nathan to Butts county then she was closer to Walker, which could also have been unsafe. I know farm workers today have terrible problems with living on farms or nearby accommodations. I can't imagine it being better in the 1800s.
@victorhopper6774
@victorhopper6774 3 ай бұрын
there are a number of possibilities. some worse than others
@malyroberts4054
@malyroberts4054 4 ай бұрын
I feel like both of them tried to put lipstick on a pig with this situation. Hopefully the full episode will provide more context because I don’t understand how they came to the conclusion that the affair was consensual 🤷🏽‍♀️
@Chokolatepeach
@Chokolatepeach 4 ай бұрын
Exactly!!!
@kimb6900
@kimb6900 4 ай бұрын
I agree! It's fairytale thinking
@kenefa7466
@kenefa7466 4 ай бұрын
And then with Nathan accepting the child as his own because he DEFINITELY knew…it gives more reason to believe it was bad circumstances. How long did he stay farming over there
@ezpic2
@ezpic2 4 ай бұрын
She seems extremely niave…!
@mele9131
@mele9131 4 ай бұрын
How could they not think that walkers family was the former owners of Nathan family given that they had the same name.
@LACED1987
@LACED1987 4 ай бұрын
Be careful what you ask for. We all want to know our family history but the truth can be dark.
@mariposa610
@mariposa610 4 ай бұрын
As a Boricua, of Taino descent, I sadly agree
@mul7777
@mul7777 3 ай бұрын
Or, in this case, white.
@vw1649
@vw1649 2 ай бұрын
For some People very "DARK" indeed.
@carollilly2834
@carollilly2834 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💕
@AmiolaSensuous
@AmiolaSensuous 2 ай бұрын
Dark?
@phylliskumi4355
@phylliskumi4355 4 ай бұрын
That is a troubling conclusion. I don't believe this was consensual. Black women had no agency at that time.
@writehandproductions1914
@writehandproductions1914 3 ай бұрын
What black women DID have back then...which every woman has always had...is desire and the ability to sneak around. Ever hear of the Creoles? Ever hear of Puerto Rico and DR? Are you arguing that r--pe was the cause of all these situations? Yall need to study history. You watch one or two race movies and you make these silly claims.
@bruhvibes5941
@bruhvibes5941 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@writehandproductions1914Creoles and Carribeans were brought up in South European culture which promoted the idea of black women making white grandchildren
@EndeavoursRadio
@EndeavoursRadio 2 ай бұрын
it was 1904 so black people were free. Who knows what really happened
@AwkBlackGirl
@AwkBlackGirl 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@writehandproductions1914Or the white dude could have been jealous of the black man who he was taught he was better than based on the fact his white father owned this other man’s family. Like don’t be dense yourself. Your modern day issues with Black women doesn’t make r*pe in 1904 impossible. If she willingly slept with that man and “loved him”, her son would’ve been aware of his paternity. Yea there are women who slept with men to get ahead but there were few relationships between Black women and white men where they could be equals prior to civil rights. History books can tell you that too.
@ZootSuitSanta
@ZootSuitSanta Ай бұрын
At that time, all Black women would have been free citizens. Additional factors that would limit or expand agency would be their class status, religion, region they lived in and education.
@inhairitancestudio6108
@inhairitancestudio6108 4 ай бұрын
Ciara saying she believes it was consensual makes me think she didn’t understand what he said initially, is delusional, or lying for the cameras. Girl what?!
@queenstatus3049
@queenstatus3049 4 ай бұрын
Exactly!!
@taliadavis4297
@taliadavis4297 4 ай бұрын
Sometime we cant conceive the magnitudes of a thing so we only see it as it would be Lively in the present
@jodiebaylor9583
@jodiebaylor9583 4 ай бұрын
In her eyes you could see that she wasn't following what was being laid out before her.
@chaneestatengamble2259
@chaneestatengamble2259 4 ай бұрын
@@taliadavis4297I can relate to this. My Husband strongly believes his Maternal Great-GrandParents were of consensual circumstances. And, yet, in terms of my Paternal lineage particularly of my Native x German side, I highly think NOT.
@jrniiji7847
@jrniiji7847 4 ай бұрын
She looked confused the majority of the time. You could tell she didn't fully understand the terminology he was using. Her face said she couldn't keep up with what's actually going on.
@courtneyholland6215
@courtneyholland6215 4 ай бұрын
Uncovering family history is a journey in itself
@lovejones0686
@lovejones0686 4 ай бұрын
This is very true. I've always said that I wanted to delve deeper into my family history. I've hit a road block and always wondered how much it would cost to use a genealogist for help.
@courtneyholland6215
@courtneyholland6215 4 ай бұрын
@@lovejones0686 I hit several road blocks
@TooChe27
@TooChe27 4 ай бұрын
As much as I NEED to believe the event was consensual……….😢 I’m tired of this pain.
@MISNM0
@MISNM0 Ай бұрын
🫂
@13579hee
@13579hee 4 ай бұрын
There is no way of knowing if it was consensual or if he sexually assaulted her
@elliottoju495
@elliottoju495 4 ай бұрын
It was most likely consensual
@TraceTrace25
@TraceTrace25 4 ай бұрын
@@elliottoju495*likely not consensual.
@sunshinesunflowerz1647
@sunshinesunflowerz1647 4 ай бұрын
Its likely that it was coerced consensual.
@carmellabrown3335
@carmellabrown3335 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, she was a little to quick to accuse her ancestor of adultery for me.
@ttp436
@ttp436 4 ай бұрын
That’s what I think and is factual in many cases
@chillwill9424
@chillwill9424 4 ай бұрын
I know she could not really think that her great-grandmother had a choice or she was ok with it.
@sabrinashelton1997
@sabrinashelton1997 3 ай бұрын
Why assume that? You can only be attracted to someone who looks just like you? Y'all are so odd.
@troywest1724
@troywest1724 3 ай бұрын
@@sabrinashelton1997Did you see the timeline.. we all know what was happening back then. It’s not a mystery. I’ve noticed a pattern with people who think you. You probably think Jim Crow didn’t exist.
@sabrinashelton1997
@sabrinashelton1997 3 ай бұрын
Oooh, Jim Crow, love him. Big fan, big fan. @@troywest1724
@thedayaftertomorrow9502
@thedayaftertomorrow9502 3 ай бұрын
@@ABCDE.F.U. The probability is that she was SA'd. I don't know why people like you don't understand that downplaying our history only breeds more resentment.
@thedayaftertomorrow9502
@thedayaftertomorrow9502 3 ай бұрын
@@ABCDE.F.U. Probably because you're lying and clearly no nothing about your supposed history. Type "A Georgia Sharecropper’s Story of Forced Labor ca. 1900" so you can learn about the high rate of SA among sharecropper's wives.
@Pou1gie1
@Pou1gie1 4 ай бұрын
The problem with both Ciara and the host saying this was consensual is that Black ppl did not have agency during that time, nor were the laws on their side. So, even if it was technically consensual, it still wouldn't be consensual the same way that a boss having an affair with one of his lower level workers isn't consensual. There is a power differential that doesn't allow either person to be on the same level when it comes to agency.
@mrsaye499
@mrsaye499 4 ай бұрын
thank you! this! He shouldn't have even uttered that out of his mouth.
@PrincessAmmanii
@PrincessAmmanii 4 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly! His question very much gave “leading the witness” 🙄
@Frodojack
@Frodojack 4 ай бұрын
Of course black people had agency in the early 1900s. They didn't have agency when they were enslaved, but slavery was abolished in 1865. Black people in early 1900s Georgia were oppressed under white supremacy and Jim Crow laws, but being oppressed is not the same as not having agency. It was also the same time period as George Washington Carver and W. E. B. Dubois. Historically black colleges and universities grew after the Civil War, with one in Atlanta starting in 1865 and by 1903 there were eight in Georgia. I do agree with the rest of what you wrote. If it was an affair it probably wasn't consensual, or it could have been r@pe (which I think is most likely). Extramarital affairs were rare in the South during that time period, especially interracial ones, making one between them unlikely.
@1voiceCriesOut
@1voiceCriesOut 3 ай бұрын
Thank you ​@@Frodojack it would have been 1904 a long way from slavery
@peacehappyb237
@peacehappyb237 3 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@TheMyssLK
@TheMyssLK 4 ай бұрын
If she wanted to be impartial, she should’ve just said … I really don’t know
@Drawingboredi
@Drawingboredi 4 ай бұрын
Cici's reactions 😂😂😂" hm hm hm hmmm"
@belizegal29
@belizegal29 4 ай бұрын
That tickled me.😂😂😂
@jameshakelley4872
@jameshakelley4872 4 ай бұрын
I felt that😂❤
@jelly5
@jelly5 2 ай бұрын
Her participation was probably mandatory but she knows better.
@kmiddleton4704
@kmiddleton4704 2 ай бұрын
I know, right? She reminded me of the women in my family. I love her…
@documentarygirl8
@documentarygirl8 4 ай бұрын
Likely she was assaulted. Nathan probably knew that baby wasnt his cuz
@malyroberts4054
@malyroberts4054 4 ай бұрын
And he probably knew exactly who the daddy was considering they grew up together. I’m saddened that Dr Gates CHOSE to simplify the relationship.
@ronaldcervantes1959
@ronaldcervantes1959 4 ай бұрын
Y’all reaching
@ItsMyOpinion-sd2iz
@ItsMyOpinion-sd2iz 4 ай бұрын
That was very common
@JKAnu-yq1tr
@JKAnu-yq1tr 4 ай бұрын
Obviously. The baby was biracial lol
@jenniva2005
@jenniva2005 4 ай бұрын
Seems to me that yt man FOLLOWED them there because Nathan and his wife had already moved.
@ladylove4425
@ladylove4425 4 ай бұрын
Back then married or not if a white man saw a black woman that he wanted he just have arranged or just took her After all she was someone's wife And how did her husband felt 😮😮😮😮😮
@holeefuk413
@holeefuk413 3 ай бұрын
Or maybe she wanted it too.
@troywest1724
@troywest1724 3 ай бұрын
@@holeefuk413Highly doubt that… especially with the history of those from Western Europe.
@kudjoeadkins-battle2502
@kudjoeadkins-battle2502 2 ай бұрын
Not just any white man. But certainly ones in charge.
@theadvocate3006
@theadvocate3006 2 ай бұрын
​@@holeefuk413NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT👀
@foreignchocaliqdelux7897
@foreignchocaliqdelux7897 9 күн бұрын
@@troywest1724no real black woman who loves herself wants a white man… but I think a white man can win over her heart
@gavingavalli389
@gavingavalli389 4 ай бұрын
I highly doubt it was consensual! Men came and took what they wanted back then I’m shocked she didn’t give her great great grandmother the benefit of the doubt
@hello_04
@hello_04 4 ай бұрын
She’s programmed with misogynoir
@mrsaye499
@mrsaye499 4 ай бұрын
It's disrespectful and embarrassing. They know how to pick them for these shows.
@jm2307
@jm2307 4 ай бұрын
Playing devil’s advocate is much more common than giving Black women the benefit of the doubt unfortunately
@mul7777
@mul7777 3 ай бұрын
What? Her white great great grandfather was born 1 year before slavery was abolished, so he didn't grow up around slavery. He grew up during Reconstruction period which was a prosperous time for blacks. Is it that hard for you to conceive that maybe she had an affair?
@se_me1756
@se_me1756 3 ай бұрын
@@mul7777You really believe that a year made a huge difference in how black people were viewed and treated???? You believe everything changed overnight? Mentalities?? You believe that most black people were prosperous during reconstruction??? You really do not know history at all. Black people were “free” but it took another 100 years before they would receive rights!! And even after that they were mistreated. Black people were being attacked and lynched after enslavement. Their homes were burned. They were terrorized daily. And black women had NO voice. Even if “consensual” it may have been survival. Yes, a love story is a possibility but we don’t know that and neither does Dr. Gates or Ciara.
@josettebassett3734
@josettebassett3734 4 ай бұрын
It's like the Caribbean song,"Your daddy not you daddy but your dad don't know."
@advice4u409
@advice4u409 4 ай бұрын
It is very dangerous to assume that BW had that level of agency to consent. Dr. Gates loves a we are the world moment🤦🏾‍♀️
@TQO81
@TQO81 4 ай бұрын
He can’t say that if he doesn’t have any proof, use your head fr.
@advice4u409
@advice4u409 4 ай бұрын
@@TQO81 I don't understand what you're referring to or your aggressive tone (use your head).
@mrsaye499
@mrsaye499 4 ай бұрын
It's disrespectful.
@Mx.HasberryPresents
@Mx.HasberryPresents 4 ай бұрын
@@TQO81you literally can as there was a clear power imbalance during the time
@Aintnobodycomingtoseeuotis
@Aintnobodycomingtoseeuotis 4 ай бұрын
And he’s a know liar remember when he did Ben Affleck
@FridaDina
@FridaDina 4 ай бұрын
Family ancestry can be a mystery or it can be revealing of some hidden truth. This show and their research are amazing.
@dablkcarriebradshaw
@dablkcarriebradshaw 2 ай бұрын
Ciara looking like why you putting all my family business out here like this
@bmit5474
@bmit5474 4 ай бұрын
I don't think that was love. In my personal opinion, they weren't that far off from the ending of “The Peculiar Institution,” and many southern whites still felt they had a right to the bodies of African-decent blacks.
@ko0974
@ko0974 4 ай бұрын
Delusional watching too many reruns of roots
@Love_Daisys
@Love_Daisys 3 ай бұрын
You seem delulu😂
@ctruth6185
@ctruth6185 3 ай бұрын
@@Love_Daisys You are ignorant of history or likely covering up as is customary with those of your ilk.
@mariazubizarreta
@mariazubizarreta Ай бұрын
Oh gosh I sadly don't think the lady had a true choice in those days 😢
@jjgems5909
@jjgems5909 3 ай бұрын
Ciara has a beautiful speaking voice and she’s beautiful! I’ve always been such a fan and loved her music but I’ve never heard her speaking voice just singing
@SuperDB215
@SuperDB215 4 ай бұрын
Oh the drama… well… we don’t know what happen, but we can probably assume Nathan knew
@TheartistNevada
@TheartistNevada 3 ай бұрын
Right
@madeinussr7551
@madeinussr7551 3 ай бұрын
Whats funny to me is all these very light skinned ppl are surprised when they find a white ancestor.
@kudjoeadkins-battle2502
@kudjoeadkins-battle2502 2 ай бұрын
You think she’s very light skin
@MakeWay4CJ
@MakeWay4CJ 2 ай бұрын
She’s light enough to have suspected a white ancestor.
@angiepronzola6622
@angiepronzola6622 2 ай бұрын
Being light skinned doesn’t always equate to having white ancestry just like being dark skinned doesn’t mean you don’t have white ancestry
@kudjoeadkins-battle2502
@kudjoeadkins-battle2502 2 ай бұрын
@@MakeWay4CJ most of us have a few
@OwedDebt
@OwedDebt 2 ай бұрын
What's funny to me is all of these white people who don't know that their ancient ancestors are from Africa.
@bilialeilan9038
@bilialeilan9038 4 ай бұрын
These white men back then were going from one black woman to another. Consenual or not it was done with impunity.
@christinebryant8354
@christinebryant8354 4 ай бұрын
Ancestry is deep to it core. We’re going through our family tree now five generations back took us back as a black family to 1797 our white family members fifth generation great grandmother and their 10 children is crazy. One of those children was the father of my great grandmother.
@kudjoeadkins-battle2502
@kudjoeadkins-battle2502 2 ай бұрын
She’s in denial. It was coerced beyond a doubt. He was 40 years old. The husband was away. Come on.
@gabrielarmsted8020
@gabrielarmsted8020 4 ай бұрын
I doubt this was consensual.
@HabitualLover
@HabitualLover 4 ай бұрын
This entire comments section doubts it, too 💯
@memcrew1
@memcrew1 4 ай бұрын
@@HabitualLoverRiiiight, because we all know it’s “impossible” for a sister to find a YT man attractive.
@underestimated1171
@underestimated1171 3 ай бұрын
​@@memcrew1Do you think that the wife was so spiteful of her husband that she would lay with his former owner? Do you think that the husband couldn't tell that the child wasn't mixed race?
@unapologeticallyromel7096
@unapologeticallyromel7096 4 ай бұрын
So happy Ciara is learning about her family
@ItzD
@ItzD 4 ай бұрын
There is no way that was consensual, I wish PBS pushed back on that... There are a lot of African American descendants from SA victims, let's not revise history
@toyachanel
@toyachanel 3 ай бұрын
You can tell immediately what Ciara was thinking with that side eye !
@woodswal
@woodswal 4 ай бұрын
I doubt it was consensual. I am not sure what made them think it was? 🤔
@zeroturn7091
@zeroturn7091 3 ай бұрын
She was saying that to save face.
@jelly5
@jelly5 2 ай бұрын
It's a narrative push.
@missygroove
@missygroove 2 ай бұрын
❤Exacly totally agreeing here 😮
@seewhathappenslarry8124
@seewhathappenslarry8124 2 ай бұрын
@@zeroturn7091😅
@MoroMoro1
@MoroMoro1 4 ай бұрын
wow. really love this show, especially when they dig into african american participants lineage
@kingmulahoo4925
@kingmulahoo4925 3 ай бұрын
The same exact thing happened to my great great grandmother , and my family was from Guyana so imagine all over the world in places that were colonized this happened more than we know.
@crush3095
@crush3095 4 ай бұрын
The narrator's presentation style is so great for this show, always slow and emphatic
@SirLangsalot
@SirLangsalot 5 сағат бұрын
Very impressive: intelligent and empathetic.
@jg122487
@jg122487 4 ай бұрын
In shock she thinks it was consensual! Smh
@EyeOfTheWatcher
@EyeOfTheWatcher 4 ай бұрын
because the truth might be too much for her.
@sjames1209
@sjames1209 4 ай бұрын
She doesn’t seem to bright and this is why you probably don’t see her doing to many interviews just dancing around and making TikToks.
@jg122487
@jg122487 4 ай бұрын
Smh just heartbreaking 💔
@celticmulato2609
@celticmulato2609 4 ай бұрын
No one knows!
@jg122487
@jg122487 4 ай бұрын
@@celticmulato2609 spoken like someone who doesn't understand the institution of slavery. If she did say no, it wouldn't matter.
@tyfrier2434
@tyfrier2434 4 ай бұрын
I would love to do one of these on my family. My family's roots are a jumble mess.
@bruteluv
@bruteluv 4 ай бұрын
I think I was SA
@deborahbrewster
@deborahbrewster 4 ай бұрын
"Desire is colour blind" is a wild statement.
@leannwilson2668
@leannwilson2668 4 ай бұрын
Walter is the Husband of my 6th Cousin twice removed - Meaning Sierra and I are like 8th 9th cousins - Mind blowing ❤❤
@lovelyrich54
@lovelyrich54 4 ай бұрын
That is mind blowing but cool.So she would be your cousin in law to the 8 power is what your saying? 😂😂😂
@ElleRochelle
@ElleRochelle 4 ай бұрын
Ciara i know you don't really think that was consensual 🙄
@ChichiThugmen
@ChichiThugmen 4 ай бұрын
It was all in the reactions her eyes say it all 😂😂😂😂😂
@GrandPrizeFitnesAJAY
@GrandPrizeFitnesAJAY 4 ай бұрын
She said the congenial answer. Love Ci ci for being quick on her feet.
@hailesalassierasterfari6218
@hailesalassierasterfari6218 4 ай бұрын
Sharecropping no that was still slavery and I'm pretty sure it wasn't consensual
@CeeCheles
@CeeCheles 2 ай бұрын
💯💯💯💯
@Me-vq7sy
@Me-vq7sy 2 ай бұрын
Why would it be consensual? Nathan's wife would not have known walker personally. Just because her husband nathan knew walker during his childhood doesn't explain why she'd go off with him.
@ItsMrstoyouboo
@ItsMrstoyouboo 4 ай бұрын
She know what it really was...dont play ma'am.
@CeeCheles
@CeeCheles 2 ай бұрын
Exactly smh 🤢
@jelly5
@jelly5 2 ай бұрын
She has to play nice. This was mandatory for her to do, NOT selective. They have to reach every generation who doubts otherwise.
@FrostFanatikmusic
@FrostFanatikmusic 2 ай бұрын
That just felt so messy lol
@TiffTALKS22
@TiffTALKS22 2 ай бұрын
Ohh her reaction definitely seemed tempered for tv.😂 i think i need to see that full episode.
@borromdakar4323
@borromdakar4323 2 ай бұрын
This episode broke my heart…
@Deezy_Ankh
@Deezy_Ankh 4 ай бұрын
I see u these things and feel gracious to know that i knew ppl that were alive during that time. My great great grandmother was born in 1905 or 1906. She passed at 106 years old and I was maybe 15 at the time. Crazy.
@WillBlindYouWithLight
@WillBlindYouWithLight 2 ай бұрын
Right?! Our ancestors were breathing in the same air as so many historically influential people😮😮 It blows my mind too
@soleil2118
@soleil2118 4 ай бұрын
Funny how they romanticize people owning other human beings. "Intimately connected" 😅😂😮
@CeeCheles
@CeeCheles 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't care for the wording of these abominable interactions. That's the re tar ded and disrespectful thing about this show. In mostly all cases, we had no choice and Black women had that nastiness forced on them 💔
@sassycat6487
@sassycat6487 Ай бұрын
What do you mean by owning? This was after slavery had been abolished.
@kathrynbracht8398
@kathrynbracht8398 4 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t it be beautiful if this time and money was spent on those people- like adoptees- who need a sense of their beginnings? I love this series, but it would be lovely if this energy was directed to those who could be healed through this information. ❤
@xoxoxok
@xoxoxok 4 ай бұрын
This is a beautiful idea! Find a way to present it
@tantig5923
@tantig5923 4 ай бұрын
I am one of those descendants. 😢 It has been a hard journey even through Ancestry. I have not been able to find any, as they say hints, of anyone but possible 3rd cousins. No 1st. And No 2nd cousins only two 3rd cousins on my link The matches then jump to 5th cousins and a lot of 6th-8th cousins 😮 It makes you wonder what really happened to my grandparents they are not telling us? I did notice a lot of name changes coming to America.
@mstaz1688
@mstaz1688 4 ай бұрын
Black Americans who descended from slavery deserve the time and money to trace the lineage. They are being healed through this information. 🙄
@kathrynbracht8398
@kathrynbracht8398 4 ай бұрын
@@mstaz1688 I agree. My point is more about the celebrities - again, I love the series, just saying they could expand a little into that area, or some series coul.
@cedrimar
@cedrimar 4 ай бұрын
There's a British show with this premise called Long Lost Family. A tear-jerker every time!
@stickman1373
@stickman1373 4 ай бұрын
Let's be honest this is just AMAZING!!!! WOW! I've heard stories and I can remember when my family had a reunion and I discovered that I had a cousin in North Carolina with my mom's exact name, I called her and explained to her who I was, and she said yes I've heard we have A LOT of family in North Alabama.... I then started hearing that I had white relatives that are kin to me! You just never know!
@ndeyedembele1273
@ndeyedembele1273 2 ай бұрын
It's terrible to call this dominant-dominated dynamic as a consensual relationship. Terrible !!! Soon we'll be saying that slavery was a holiday. May she rest in peace. I hope my sentences arecorrect (english is not my mother tongue).
@asilva7193
@asilva7193 4 ай бұрын
The timing makes it very clear what was happening here.
@Amatullah78
@Amatullah78 2 ай бұрын
I imagine that if it was consensual, Nathan would’ve felt betrayed by Walker and his wife, but if it was not consensual, then he would’ve felt anger by Walker, but not his wife it would be more likely to keep the child and not divorce her. But if she wants to believe it was consensual, so be it.🤷🏾‍♀️
@PettyShabazz
@PettyShabazz 4 ай бұрын
I bet my life it wasnt consensual
@AmorVitae93
@AmorVitae93 3 ай бұрын
Ummm....I'm almost certain they had the same surname because they were their slaves. -_-
@peaceunity3924
@peaceunity3924 29 күн бұрын
Yes yes yes, you are correct!
@chellyscloset2053
@chellyscloset2053 3 ай бұрын
Cici stop being slow
@farida8724
@farida8724 29 күн бұрын
She has the same candance as Jlo. Even when speaking she seems like she is performing an act. And the end just proved it Love is love? 😢
@d.m.5017
@d.m.5017 4 ай бұрын
How ironic that D. Jeter is her cousin & her husband, Russell was wearing My NY❤🗽🏙💙Yankee's Uniform! I always had a feeling her family was frome here & not ATL originally. Great Show, Congrats on 10 Seasons Professor Gates. Brooklyn Love, From My Family 💘🗽🏙🇺🇸🇯🇲🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪🇹🇹🇮🇳🇵🇦🇨🇦🇬🇧💙❤🖤💛💚🧡
@wnfrdwnstn
@wnfrdwnstn Ай бұрын
That wasn't a love affair!! How dare he even say that.
@madewithloveduh
@madewithloveduh 3 ай бұрын
all I was gonna say is already in the comments. disappointed to hear HLG Jr say something like "slept" with the wife. Knowing all that we know of the era. And wanting to believe it was consensual? sad
@DiamondEDC
@DiamondEDC 4 ай бұрын
When she said Walker, I was expecting to hear "Texas Ranger"
@kat5778
@kat5778 4 ай бұрын
Disgusting Title. Probably NOT consensual.
@vieiradosreismariadelurdes9105
@vieiradosreismariadelurdes9105 Ай бұрын
What do you know? Probably "NOT" or Probably "YES". Only they them selfs knew about that. Nobody else.
@queenstatus3049
@queenstatus3049 4 ай бұрын
What??!! Love is love! Everyone knows it was not consensual in 1902! Let’s just pretend they were in love. 🤦🏽‍♀️
@speakintothemicb
@speakintothemicb 4 ай бұрын
We do not know that. You are assuming.
@celticmulato2609
@celticmulato2609 4 ай бұрын
Not every S$xual relationship was forced back then, lots of IR couples had their affair kept secret .
@chuckwadnofski7147
@chuckwadnofski7147 2 ай бұрын
Maybe she was a gold digger like today.
@traceyholt8223
@traceyholt8223 4 ай бұрын
There was also a Walter Lafayette Head in Monroe Georgia at the time who married Amanda E James in 1889 but one of the census records have these two as being Black. Walker L Head married Maude L in 1888. On the 1900 Census, they had 5 children aged 1 to 9 years. Nathan Head married Emily Redding and on the 1910 Census, they had 7 children, Willie was the 3rd youngest. So both parents were married with a number of children.
@bsjacks
@bsjacks 3 ай бұрын
Btw we all have 16 great great grand parents. 8 great great grandmothers and 8 great great grand fathers... They usually only highlight one or two... By the time you hit the 10th generation u have over 2000 ancestors in your family line.
@AlecQb-fc5yb
@AlecQb-fc5yb 2 ай бұрын
Ciara is absolutely stunning
@NevaUndaPressure
@NevaUndaPressure 4 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this to be uploaded... Thank you PBS!! #Ciara
@305youtuber
@305youtuber 3 ай бұрын
there wasn't many affairs in those times and it was mostly assault done to the women by the landowners, ciara might not know her u. s history that well 🤷🏻‍♂️
@sayitloudblcknproud
@sayitloudblcknproud 4 ай бұрын
Almost all of us have White ancestry but it’s incredible she was able to find out her great, great grandfather’s name!
@bxboyupqllnight
@bxboyupqllnight 3 ай бұрын
Wow
@ryannath85
@ryannath85 2 ай бұрын
Really it's incredible to know a great great grandpa's name? I know my 10 times great grand parent's names.
@jelly5
@jelly5 2 ай бұрын
Maybe 75%. They realized the value of the "one drop" rule.
@candicee1865
@candicee1865 4 ай бұрын
Consensual? I doubt it
@courtneejackson7016
@courtneejackson7016 4 ай бұрын
Right
@TurnAwayNow
@TurnAwayNow 4 ай бұрын
That's an interesting conclusion. 🤔
@monicaspeight3363
@monicaspeight3363 3 ай бұрын
To think it was consensual back in 1905 is naive. To have it revealed in such a public way seems like a violation of their memory.
@unapologeticallyromel7096
@unapologeticallyromel7096 4 ай бұрын
This is crazy 😱 you just never know the truth unless you search it.
@nataliemauzone4689
@nataliemauzone4689 4 ай бұрын
Does PBS or an affiliate company provide ancestry services/findings for general public. If so, what is the cost ans process?
@EyeOfTheWatcher
@EyeOfTheWatcher 4 ай бұрын
they no longer prompt a single company and shy away from prompting any company, but more than likely they are using ancestry because it has the biggest database of people and has record connections.
@jelly5
@jelly5 19 күн бұрын
Girl, it's a scam. This show uses celebrity to lure you into their "database" where they can tell you that your ancestors are from Africa or anywhere else but right here on Turtle Island (Americas) . They make up stories to give you some sort of legitimacy when it's a slant to keep the indigenous people asleep and never knowing themselves or their true power. The visuals are very clever, but they aren't TRUE 80% of the time. Whatever you can collect ON YOUR OWN (See The Research Guy - he can help too) is more factual and even these days since more of us are looking they're making it more expensive to research and less accessible.
@creatorwar
@creatorwar 4 ай бұрын
I like how they are saying farm instead of say PLANTATION 🫣🫣🫣🫣🤔
@kporter6910
@kporter6910 3 ай бұрын
Well because its not the same lol
@zeroturn7091
@zeroturn7091 3 ай бұрын
You’ll see that a lot in MS censuses that predate the Civil War. Head of family listed as farmer worker without owning the land.
@PRETTYBROWNEYES1982
@PRETTYBROWNEYES1982 3 ай бұрын
For them to have the same last name they were once slaves or descendants of the slaves that lived on their plantation and I truly don't believe it was consensual
@claire5399
@claire5399 3 ай бұрын
This😊
@desertdenizen6428
@desertdenizen6428 3 ай бұрын
Regardless of the circumstances, the outcome was beautiful. No one can control who their ancestors were.
@jacksonmowell3859
@jacksonmowell3859 3 ай бұрын
This is nothing to be proud of. Quit shameful.
@jaz6789
@jaz6789 4 ай бұрын
Why would she think it was consensual?!
@mylesjohnson5326
@mylesjohnson5326 4 ай бұрын
I’m from Monroe County ga!!!!!!
@nedraanderson2816
@nedraanderson2816 4 ай бұрын
We are in the same question about my grandpa and uncle. We know that their siblings look nothing like them . Their parents and 4 other siblings look just like their parents. On an ancestry there are know one with the last name of our grandfathers last name or dna related. But a relative of the man that shows as a cousin of the man that is dna cousin of ours .
@ctya72
@ctya72 4 ай бұрын
Oh they cleaned that up🤦🏾‍♀️🙄
@pattiwhite9575
@pattiwhite9575 4 ай бұрын
oh, I wonder. I am from a white family name of Head from Macon, GA area. Not a Nathian though. But, also a guy that had two properties in different counties and two seperate families at the same time during about the same time frame. Them Heads were tricky people.
@CurtisAhenkan
@CurtisAhenkan 4 ай бұрын
they were Heads for a reason then 🤣😅😆😄
@HabitualLover
@HabitualLover 4 ай бұрын
Shouldve been called Heels, huh? Kikikiki 😁
@A.Shawnee
@A.Shawnee Ай бұрын
Ciara always was a little slow 😂😂😂
@DariRizos
@DariRizos 4 ай бұрын
I do not believe it was consensual. Slaves did not have a choice back in the days.
@jenniferd7563
@jenniferd7563 2 ай бұрын
That was after slavery. They were sharecroppers.
@Roseswithinmycurls
@Roseswithinmycurls 3 ай бұрын
As a Creole of color with a very in depth knowledge and understanding of my own family history I will say this. My family were free people of color. I had a grandmother who was designated a free woman of color upon her birth. In New Orleans there were Creoles of color who formed romantic partnerships with European Creole men, which we call both placage and left handed marriages. Given the laws of the time a white man and a colored women were not permitted to marry in a legal sense, however race mixing in New Orleans was simply commonplace. My grandfather a French Creole had children with my grandmother and provided for them a small cottage house. Unlike slaves free women of color had the chance to choose their romantic partners.Let's not forget it was the love story of a white man and a black woman that ultimately changed the laws of the time and allowed for different races to marry. Thankfully many more interracial relationships and marriages are on the rise.
@Creoles.nature
@Creoles.nature 3 ай бұрын
Yes but the same last name tends to mean it was a slavehand
@hereiswisdom
@hereiswisdom 3 ай бұрын
Yes! Exactly! Also, prior to the Amerucans gaining control of Louisiana Creoles of Color and Europeans did marry. If Amricans didn't gain control of Louisiana, it would be separate with it's own history like Peurto Rico.
@Roseswithinmycurls
@Roseswithinmycurls 3 ай бұрын
@@hereiswisdom Thank you, finally someone who truly gets it! You're intelligent and have an insight that so few have within this day and age. Stay blessed and stay wise!
@K_Renee
@K_Renee Ай бұрын
This is wild...Watch and listen with your spiritual ears.
@merveilmeok2416
@merveilmeok2416 Ай бұрын
The best detectives on the planet.
@ReggieWinston
@ReggieWinston 3 ай бұрын
I’m betting the bank that wasn’t a consensual relationship
@AryanGupta-fy6uo
@AryanGupta-fy6uo 4 ай бұрын
bro tf
@leahaghedo3132
@leahaghedo3132 21 күн бұрын
This was an interesting spin on the story..love is love??
@Allinmyworld
@Allinmyworld 4 ай бұрын
I doubt if it was consensual bc the lady in question didn't seem to tell her husband this child might not be his. Probably took that one to the grave but very fascinating history here
@JiveGray
@JiveGray 3 ай бұрын
Mama's baby, Daddy's maybe was real even way back then. This is like the 5th - 6th time this has happened on this show.
@user-hb8hb4bu1v
@user-hb8hb4bu1v 4 ай бұрын
Now why would you think this was consensual!?
@EccentricKE
@EccentricKE 3 ай бұрын
Ow The Drama😅😅 The Music Background is killing me
@tommycollier9172
@tommycollier9172 3 ай бұрын
Amazing bob Evan
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