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[@maxjergens]

The Star Citizen community would gain more from individuals like Grumpy, rather than another IGN or PC Gamer. It's clear which KZbinrs have taken on the role of Chris Roberts' IGN and PC Gamer.

[@WhiteSaltine01]

Imagine the praise you would give CIG if they fixed things. You would go very positive

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

IKR

[@takeonedaily]

@@GrumpyEyeGaming They hate you because you speak the truth.

[@StreakerSix]

Everyone that isn't a douchebag would. I'm like Grumpy, I berate things that need to be berated and praise things that need to be praised. The problem is, over the years, there are far more things to berate them over than there are things to praise them, therefore we look like we are just SC haters. I'm not a SC hater, I hate all game companies equally. (Looking at you too Eagle Dynamics!) The White Knights always say, "Game development is hard." Sure it is, but it's their profession, therefore they should have an idea of about how long things will take. When gaming companies consistently release late, it's piss poor project management.

[@Jeremy-go9kx]

Most of the current 'fudsters' would be more positive if CIG listened to feedback, and worked on things that players care about. But Chris has decided the focus must remain on sq42, while delivering fluff and hype for the PU to raise money.

[@HeyyItsNick]

CIG is giving free ships and giveaways to creators for free advertising. Essentially sponsered content that doesn't pay the content creators, it costs CIG nothing to give a code for any ship.

[@neroh7687]

that also means it cost backers nothing for the game to get advertised. none of your money is being spent on adds.

[@loadingerror9975]

Dude are you seriously simping for the poor destitute KZbinrs? Like bro if KZbinrs are not making money they don’t need to make content. Content creators are bottom of the barrel trash, they ruin video game (look at tarkov and COD for examples) and they don’t create anything of real value. Seriously “guys they are not using our money to pay KZbinrs who already make money through sponsorship’s and KZbin ads. Oh the horror”

[@OneTomato]

@@loadingerror9975you know that the opposite is also true ? Content creators that save videogames

[@neroh7687]

@@loadingerror9975 aye first off chill the fuck out home slice…. Your defensive attitude is extremely unattractive. I was simply saying I’d rather them give away ships. than give out straight up cash money. Since that would be even more of a waist.

[@Jeremy-go9kx]

@@neroh7687Yes, instead it is spent on jetting around the globe for bar citizen on the company dime, cinematics for everything, and Chris to go from nearing bankruptcy in 2012, to being worth an estimated $30m without delivering anything in 2024. Money well spent?

[@carlosfernandez7706]

Time sinks, no gameplay, only wasting time in quantum, amazon warehouse boxes moving, inventory management time sink, elevators, trains,... This is designed by marketing.

[@cmdr_stretchedguy]

2024: drones delivering packages in a short time 2924 ingame: you have to move all 327 1scu boxes one by one across a large hangar Where are the auto load/unload drones?

[@SeaRaven227]

@@cmdr_stretchedguy There's 2, 4, 8, 16, 24 and 32 scu boxes. There is also an auto-load function if your ship is stored, loading 64scu costs around 3000aUEC.

[@theshawnmccown]

Exactly what I've said. And a shrill came in with the game worship they always do and says, "Then this game isn't for you." This game is going to be for nobody if drones wake up and leave the game. People have lives and can't spend eternity jacked into Chris's matrix. A screwed up broken matrix at that.

[@Cmdr_V]

​@@theshawnmccown if you can stop playing for a year you'll be more happy lol

[@theshawnmccown]

​@@Cmdr_V I've done those cycles. There is way too much time sink added to the game because it's missing a lot of important game mechanics. No amount of time waiting is going to change that. The reason this project is going on forever to get off the ground is because CIG's priorities are all wrong. They are trying to add fine details before getting the exciting elements in the game. Dynamic missions, quest givers and many other game related functions are missing. The missions are copy paste repeats in different environments. Adding physicalized cargo and cargo hauling ahead of those is to buy time. They are stalling and adding fluff to make it feel full when after a few weeks of playing it becomes obvious that it's fluff. 13 years and this game is faaaaaaar away from being releasable. We are still on one system. And that system is hollow and empty. I've been following the game since the kickstarter. I've been playing since 2015 and have purchased three ships and various armor. The game taking long isn't the core issue but when they focus on stupid fluff and tedious mechanics that NOBODY wants to do then I start having huge doubts in Chris's leadership and ability to make this game a success. I hope SQ42 releases soon and it's a hit. Because if it's a flop, Star Citizen is dead. They are running out of time.

[@terry7342]

Gloves off karma will catch up to CIG. A bad game is a bad game.

[@MadM4F14]

stop having all the fun alone, where can i give my feedback/salt to CIG without getting banned again?

[@wiser3754]

The Star citizen refunds reddit

[@MadM4F14]

@@wiser3754 nah thats not how it works. i was hoping for a rsi link. is that official at least?

[@MoonHowlerGaming]

In my honest opinion, this (the ATLS) is something they could have at least given for free to long time backers as a "thank you" and released for sale in game immediately. It is beyond me how they keep working on new ships for new money but ships they sold years ago are still jpegs to this day and others have a thousand bugs but never get fixed. They're always working towards the next sale and next cash grab.

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

it should of been in the ingame stores since day one. Or it should of came with the hangar.

[@bassreeves9082]

Plus, they could have made it with thrusters so it can be used in space and in atmosphere. We can thrust up to pull boxes out of destroyed ships on planets

[@critic_empower_joke_rlaxtslife]

In immediate release state no feature but walk-like and TB a crate, I would be thankful to cig but over $10~15 is ridiculous how the argo lackluster is. The only good thing with atls is the walk animation, the rest is BS and can easily be marketing shotgunned down for TB strength and speed, just like... Redeemer getting nerfed next patch for 0 reasons but fit to sell concepts and designs.

[@Cmdr_V]

​@@bassreeves9082 you wouldn't want to use it for that though?

[@artsolano6762]

I missed you Grumpy. Welcome back temporarily to the CIG circus

[@timnoah3810]

This game had enormous potentially but somewhere along the way there was a culture shift in cig , I suspect they realized they had a license to print money it was to much to resist that their backers\ player base wanted this game so bad they weren't critically looking at what their involved in, they became corrupt. I realized this in January of this year I stopped being a backer and stopped playing. I continue to check in from time but I believe this company has a contemptuous attitude towards their backers when they should be grateful, I will no longer support early release games because if we dont keep the carrot in front of the donkey the donkey doesn't have any incentive to do want we want.

[@cmdr_stretchedguy]

CIG: "give us feedback, see we're listening" Also CIG: 12 years of not listening... Its not going to change now, or else they would be have a final release v1.0 by now, not still in alpha v0.0.3.24.1 after 12 years.

[@SeaRaven227]

Dude... have you seen the state of gaming? 8 years on Concord, it lasted 11 days. 11 years on Skull & Bones, it's trash. 7 years and over 400mil on Starfield and it's a 15yo game with a shit story... None of those game tried anything new nor pushed any boundaries... how are people still bitching for 12 years when we have all those exemples of games being shit after nearly 10 years in the oven despite being rehashed garbage from 10 years ago? CIG has issues, but those ain't it chief.

[@Cmdr_V]

​@@SeaRaven227 people just want to bitch into the void lol

[@schmagoogly]

@@SeaRaven227 The examples you have provided is a testament to the fact that large amounts of funding and long lead times (many many years) in game development can still yield an extraordinarily bad game. Therefore, how is Star Citizen immune to this? For Star Citizen it has Massive funding ✅, Massive development time ✅, and it definitely appears to be going the way of the examples you provided. Just because SC has ambitions to "push gaming boundaries" doesn't make it immune to being a shit game. It's 12 years, and in a completely undesirable state of playing... can hardly consider it a game at this point... maybe a tech demo? If people continue to excuse CIG's lackluster return margins, CIG will burn. It's aligned with the age old wisdom of "A wise friend corrects, a flatterer destroys" or "Tough love". I criticize SC because I want it (so friggin badly) to become a game and CIG's vision to come to fuition. However, I've been disillusioned tracking their progress all these damn years. Ain't no way you can convince me that provided the funding and time they've had, SC in its current state is "OK" and that it can be excused because "they have ambitious goals". Copium is one hell of a drug.

[@SeaRaven227]

@@schmagoogly I never said anything about SC being good or not, i said complaining about the time it takes to make it is not the way to go. What i'm pointing out is they had to build a whole new engine while Starfield used a 15yo engine yet still cost half SC's budget and 7 years of devellopment. They've managed to create systems people said would never work 10 years ago, yet Skull & Bones took Black Flag and after 11 years, only managed to make it worse in every way. All the recent flops in movies and games recently prove money and time don't mean anything, it's the people and contrary to Obsidian when they made New-Vegas in 18 months, the younger generation seems to suck ass at creativity and imagination... Do i wish they were further along? Of course, but the real issue here is not how long it's taken them, it's they hired a team that's WAY too big and eating all the cash they have, meaning the marketing dept has them by the balls making stuff to sell to keep the money flowing in. They also spend way too much on gatherings and ship models and automatic starship doors for their offices... All those things are fine when you have a revenue from selling stuff, NOT when you rely on donations to finish a project you have not delivered on yet. I expect the release of Sq42 may alleviate the issue somewhat by bringing some revenue in and lessen the power of the marketing dept. but who knows. Meanwhile, complaining about the time it takes them won't help, they CAN'T listen even if they wanted, because they desperately need to keep the money pooring in.

[@schmagoogly]

@@SeaRaven227 All very good points - we basically agree. CIG appears to have mismanaged their abundant resources and the current state of SC is the result of their blunders. Just because you clearly identified their issues, doesn't make it any less excusable. Had CIG managed their resources better, we'd be alot closer to our dream space game. Instead, we have the SC we have today. We need to keep criticizing them and providing feedback - not just glowing optimism about their ambition. A good dose of accountability is what CIG needs and deep look in the mirror. You, me and the SC community just want our dream game and CIG is not fostering this endeavor optimally. They have a lot of improvements to make not just in SC, but in their company if they want to make this happen.

[@jamessparks6133]

The only way to fix this game is stop spending money on it. Trust me, it makes you feel much better when you just say NO. When they fix it and start listening to their backers, I'll return to funding it. You can talk about it until you're blue in the face and it will do no good at all. Give constructive criticism in a nice way and close your wallet to it.

[@briangueringer3673]

Dude, been with this game for 2 years or so . Long time E.D. player and I gotta tell you, to me this game is not looking good. There is nothing I see in this game that warrants a 10 cycle to not be finished... This game is another 6 to 10 years before being finished at best and it feels like its just going to be this arcadey simish game or "meh". Its like it doesnt have a direction but a bunch of whims that go back and forth and none of it really works. I see people saying "its going to be this and that" , "this ship does this and the org will be able to do this"... I have a feeling these player "ideas" are going to be infinitely better than anything the game even gets close too.... I would be willing to bet , like E.D. while orgs will be a thing... I think the bulk of players will be solo or a couple of friends in a wing aka not looking to engage in org gameplay on the regular. This is going to kneecap the game big time.. All this huge azz ships that you will need 4 or more people to fly isnt going to make it in the long term, I dont think... Second, there is only going to be 2 systems in the game next year... 10 years and you might have 2 systems in a space game?? People wont even be able to go anywhere to get away from people any time soon and do their own thing... Being able to get around toll groups is important in games like this and being stuck in two systems and shoving every player into these 2 little system with no change to size for the foreseeable future is a problem. Lastly the glut of ships is getting old. 50% if them dont even have a function in the game and now they are just making ships that are better versions of the ships they already sold... Just look the store its a mess, bloated and just confuses you looking at it.. Its crazy ... I for one do not feel good about this game at all. I dont think its a "scam", I think it just has completely spirialed out of control. 3 ship sales in 3 weeks lol. Its just has all the signs of a failed project. It needs somebody that has a laser focus not this broad go 30% into a new whim and than bounce into the next thing... Like servers are still garbage lol. Then when I play it, its "cool" at best but by the time this game is done it will outdated.. You cant keep stapling more and more stuff on an already struggling game engine, its going to simply break at some point. I have been playing E.D. more lately just because its an actual game and feels good to just play. SC simply doesnt feel good and I dont think it will feel good anytime , like 5 years anytime soon. Thats scary. Its just going to be a bucket full of "meh" when and if it lands... It definitely needs new , more focused leadership...

[@frogger2011ify]

I came to SC cause I hated EDs flight model....and now SC has the same shitty flight model This is definitely a scam, it might become a game someday but it doesn't change that everything you mentioned about ships for example point to the fact we are being strung along and bilked out of money...that's a scam Chris has been fired from every project because of misappropriation of funds...his CGI studio collected money for 5 years, produced nothing and used a tax and payout loophole to take the money. He then put a Patsy in place before the legal headache came around and the company shuttered the moment Germany closed the loophole. In conclusion, this is Chris and how he does things. Look at the new title...the massive studio they build with million dollar furnishings and state of the art motion capture studio that is legit not being used for this game at all....and it's all been done with our money.

[@intothemindofaidan]

Like any Grumpy video, it starts 5:00 into the video

[@solomonmitchell6048]

Grumpy is sleepy and justifiably angry

[@wiser3754]

At least he’s back at work.

[@-DarkFox-]

Sleepy is a completely different dwarf

[@wiser3754]

@@-DarkFox- Yet he still works

[@TheCosmicNihilist]

I learned they don't allow Why questions as well on top of When next no Where questions...

[@xredspygaming6394]

They are nerfing ships a lot of people have to force them to buy other ships bad unethical business practices

[@christophercurtis9392]

I'm 5k invested, and I haven't played in 6 months. Just done

[@Cmdr_V]

Sell

[@bentwing7397]

10K 10 years I didn't sign on for a arcade style WOKE console game

[@kristopherjames2404]

"Stop it, get some help." - Michael Jordan.

[@younboyce7068]

Scumbags how to sell ships?

[@Cmdr_V]

@@bentwing7397 well that's just ridiculous lol.

[@fffx2]

It is mind blowing to me that Acapella still has a job after publically saying that

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

oh nothing will happen to him. and that's the problem with this company - it encourages that kind of behaviour. Not that I want him to lose his job, but man... that's not how things should be ran.

[@Patchaism]

good vid ... thanks. Atlas is a monetized solution for problems they created

[@AlexanderDinebier]

I'm disappointed that they nerf the 400i AGAIN. My poor ship... 😢

[@imagumby7713]

Wait, there are other videos? I only just caught the tail end.

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

this was the 5th video in the series :)

[@christopherwells4253]

Channel Content Creator program (CCCP) coincidence? I THINK NOT!😅

[@BojanSa]

You're 100% right, I'm a fairly new player in SC (since version 3.17), you're not the only one who thinks it's getting ridiculous, they're throwing around $50,100,1000 figures...and one module in DCS that's fully clickable and WORKS! ! it costs $50-100...if they continue with this philosophy, I think there will be a few hundred players left, if that many remain, but they are definitely losing big players who have been there since the very beginning and who have spent a lot of money. They introduce new things without making old mistakes that go back at least 4 years, if not 10 years, they haven't even looked at and which spoil the normal gameplay. Pozdrav iz Sarajeva !🍻

[@GizmoMagui]

as one wise man said.... "And that's the way the cookie crumbles - Bruce Almighty "

[@zoltank7236]

Team "if it's shit, say it" !!! I totally agree with this state of mind ...

[@theshawnmccown]

People don't sell their share just before it suddenly skyrockets in value because a project releases (SQ42). They sell if they think it's at peak value and want to get out before it nose dives. SC is going to collapse. My guess is that the most critical part of the game that has to work to make the game a success is failing and possibly professional outside advisors have looked at it and said, nope, not possible with today's tech. What would this critical element be? Server meshing. They likely always had it working on a small scale from day one, like they had shown recently. The small scale implementation is probably what inspired them to start the Kickstarter. But, when they launch it on a bigger scale, it fails due to the computing power needed. And, having so many elements physicalized is just overloading the system even more. He likely had seen things he can't warn us about due to NDA. But, if CIG collapses in the future, he'll be able to tell us about what was going on.

[@HardMode..]

You help me to sleep at night Grumpy, thankyou.

[@harrisoncortis8416]

Derek Smart is right because the roberts use a trust to protect themselves from possible litigation in the future. Derek smart is right because Sandi Roberts gets to wear Phillip Patek watches. Its insane.

[@GizmoMagui]

I got banned for a week for calling a backer a kid. by applying the line, "Okay, kid, whatever you say, kid," because the backer was trying to attack my post when he himself does not PVP and the post was about PVP, and so everything he was trying to do was discredit my post as fake or false, but he himself does not even PVP, so his comments were irrelevant to the post. because there is an exploit in the design of the game. Yet I am pointing this out and get ban and post deleted. and the reason was calling a backer a kid classing it as "belittling" someone. (Edit) They didn't fix the exploit, its still in the game. all these years later and I stopped reporting bugs because of it.

[@blaqbastion1501]

SaltyMike and morphologist shilling for CIG with chairs

[@bassreeves9082]

Don't forget space tomato

[@AlexanderLeister]

@@bassreeves9082 Morph and Mike are okay but I can't stand spacetomato. Half of his clickbait videos are pure speculation and cope and it is grating.

[@aaronnelson7702]

If those two are shills, then the likes of boredgamer are straight up on CIG payroll.

[@younboyce7068]

Bored gamer is a scammer I report all his videos

[@tjsanfilippo1606]

The buck stops with CR. Its not marketing running wild, its CRs scheme and CRs greed which has been evident from the start. At 3/4 Billion dollars (CR said each dollar gifted to CIG would be like $5.00 to a game with a publisher) they shouldnt be itching for cash. 3/4 billion dollars "pledged" to them. Im glad to see the community starring to stand up. But too little, too late and this monster has a life of its own. Its not going to end well. A game will be releaed though. And many generations of Roberts family prodigy will will be set.

[@timothyaldridge1236]

I love how us space needs are cool with 3000 jpegs but the straw that broke the camels back was a $35 tool...they need to refund those purchases, give it to everyone in game as a hangar tool and a purchase with auec and chris needs to make a "my bad" video or this could sink the ship

[@saleseng]

The best way to describe Star Citizen in 2024 is “unreliable”.. just considering logging on induces a sense of dread, nausea, and uncertainty if a session will be worth it 😢

[@AlexanderLeister]

Love you, Grumpy, for your unfiltered takes. We don't need more shilling and toxic positivity. I'm glad you're doing what makes you happy!

[@BuccaneerOrion]

Toxic positivity is an actual thing ladies

[@sinisadovijanic]

best vid I saw for now about so called SC game

[@FieldHoodGaming]

I really hope this company is not about to go under

[@Memeguppy]

I hope it does

[@Crazy-Chicken-Media]

well when they released the cargo Mac, They made almost $200,000 in the first hour...

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

@@Memeguppy I hope it sells to someone who is capable of setting realistic goals and wants to make a headlong dive towards a feature complete release.

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

@@Crazy-Chicken-Media Well when you are spending $4000 on office chairs 200k isnt all that much.

[@Crazy-Chicken-Media]

@@middleagedbaldguy6774 that's true also. I for one think once 42 gets released, it will suck and tank then one of two things happen. 1: double down on getting Star Citizen finished and released. 2. pack their bags and say "thanks for the fish" (hitchhiker's guide to the universe reference)

[@pawe6199]

This was really good and informative. Thank You a lot.

[@avatv4658]

Got the beam eye tracker works great on my iOS thanks for the recommendation!

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

@@avatv4658 glad to hear that!

[@elementalgaming59]

The point of the game was crowd funded to be what the crowd wanted. Not crowd funded marketing scam. No s42 because of polish phase ? We have played in the most broken test space for 10 years and we have to wait for polish!?! Carrots on sticks for everyone . Road to pyro? Honestly we all should slam the break's on cig . Just drop them until we see s42 in full or they fook off.

[@elementalgaming59]

Brass tax... We funded 600million for squadron 42. Where is it? We held the line. Now it's time for you to "stand and deliver".

[@drunit8122]

Audeze LCD-X? Best headphones iv ever owned.

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

a man of culture I see! :)

[@thesilver3794]

"There are plenty of space whales to milk"

[@newtype7460]

Is this an actual quote?

[@thesilver3794]

​@@newtype7460 not that i know of but its making fun of the money whales that dickrides CIG

[@Mus1193]

There is only one solution NO MORE MONEY for CIG😊

[@Jeremy-go9kx]

Unfortunately Chris doesn't listen to feedback, but also likes to have control over every element of the project as a well known control freak. So unfortunately, no matter how reasonable the feedback is, it is unlikely to go anywhere. Previous projects have had publishers intervene to eject Chris, but not possible under this construct. Thanks for the video though.😊

[@MikeFox-og8uc]

CR needs to start to really pay attention! Let us "Normal" People stick together and stamp this out! I was fine with the ATLS coz i melted my Dragonfly " (Didn't use it) but after i was like holy sheesh this cost me 40 quid lol. Bad form CIG indeed

[@bassreeves9082]

The goal was never to create a game. This is why there is squadron 42. We do not really have any proof that it exist.

[@WarHawkAU24]

I gave it a try for the first time in a few months and.......oooooffffff....the inventory system "update" and cargo update is rough....i cannot even efficiently movebthe stuff from my starter planet to the space station in a timely manner...I'm talking 2 plusbhours and not even a quarter of it moved...Im good...

[@Rickbearcat]

You stated a few things that I had no idea about, such as Ortwin and Pappy leaving the company under dubious circumstances. Very interesting there. But, when it comes to money, or your job, nothing is beneath some people to do the wrong thing to keep that, and the power that comes with it. I completely share your views on fairness being applied across the board. I really don't understand the ethos of this company and the people that support such toxic behaivor. Their skins are so thin, they can't take even the most minor of criticisms. It is a sickness, a disease, even a cancer. The project will fail at some point in the not to distant future when people finally wise up and realize that the Kool-Aid doesn't taste that good anymore.

[@leetbus]

o7 Good work Citizen Fantastic Jimi Hendrix reference. (i have a 10 year spectrum ban, and night-rider personally fears me.)

[@qutatron]

The biggest problem here is lack of alternative for SC. No concurention on market is always bad for a project.

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

no mans sky is a great game. but it's not really a multiplayer game. Dual Universe is amazing.. but low player numbers. I'm hoping jumpship will be good though! Although it's just a mp pve game

[@qutatron]

@@GrumpyEyeGaming No Man's Sky is a game that instilled in me a love for both space and survival games, but the problem is that it lacks interesting combat. I play mostly solo, even in SC, but multiplayer is quite important to me. I've played many games that I think are worth trying, like Empyrion galactic survival, or space Engineers, and I'm also going to check out this new project by Quang, which draws heavily from SC. But there was always something missing in these games. I think that what brought most players to the CIG project was the scale, scope, immersion, marvelous looking and detailed ships with interriors, and the multitude of activities that can be experienced in this half baked alpha. There's something here for hardcore grinders, pirates, competitive PVP'ers, as well as space Bobs, of which I am partly one. Apart from this scale and variety of mechanics, I was very sold by the interactivity of the world. That you can make a mini armory in your ship and hang weapons on the rack, that you can put a mug on the table (sort of), that you can remove weapons from a defeated ship and sell them or mount them on your own, etc.

[@sinisadovijanic]

greetings from ZG and you are right in all issues. fck that I was spend too much time just trying to play that (cant call it a game), and came back to Elite

[@drunit8122]

I'll agree the ATLS is WAY overpriced. But to say they nerfed the 2 handheld tractor beams so they could sell you one is a bit misleading imo. For argument sake, lets pretend CIG knew they were going to introduce hauling so they needed to make containers physicalized. And you need a way to move said containers...and containers would be different sizes...and the current 2 in game hand held tractor beams already had weight limits....and we'd need a way to lift heavier things. Adding the ATLS just rounds out the offerings to move things, makes sense to me. That said, they should have just given all current backers one. It makes sense the ATLS exists and it makes sense the other hand held tractor beams were adjusted, but $35 is def a cash grab.

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

my dude... you must be new. tractor beams were fine until they nerfed them. and they nerfed them for the "cargo patch". and they conveniently released the atls to "save the day". Come on. They buffed the missiles to sell missile ships. They buffed and nerf whatever needs to get buffed/nerfed just before a sales event. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. For 4 years at least.

[@patches6309]

Hate the money grabbing Greed CIG is putting on full display right now. Offering the Atlas to fix them nerfing Tractor beam handhelds really gets old. Especially when the game is not anywhere near worth playing yet? When a gaming companys focus is mostly on marketing the product is always inferior. This is Suicide to any business?!

[@ArtemisTGM]

You cooked with this one bro 🤟🏼keep the passion for the game and I look forward to playing/multi-crew with you in 4-5 years when star citizen is playable 💯🍿

[@frogger2011ify]

Im 100% positive they hit their market cap long ago and they know it. Space games are niche it is very rare to sell more then 1-2 million copies. Im positive most people have multiple alts they made for referal rewards. Eleite dangerous barley sold over 2m copies on pc and about the same on ps4....star citizen wont run on console, cry engine is not optimized at all.

[@NordlightStudio]

dude looks like 50 and speaks like a 13 years old. maybe he is right but you cant take him seriously like that xD

[@younboyce7068]

Now its 700 us for a skull on a box

[@alwayssearching4760]

Save yourself the first 5 mins and skip

[@bentwing7397]

Melted mule and got ATLAS with credits :) not happy with price will melt when comes in game for LTI

[@Armabelico]

Marketing is, and will keep killing the game, we all know about the high costs of developing a game with this extension, but they are doing marketing campaigns lacking a quality product to justify that, and yes, game mechanics and having fun is part of your product, that must be your main selling point. We just need stuff to do....The person in charge of: creating missions and implementing game mechanics has failed. If the game was actually good this won't be happening, If the marketing department hadn't taken control, this wouldn't have happened. Atlas is a direct projection of the game: TOO EXPENSIVE FOR WHAT IT OFFERS, period. I love the game but this is F. up.

[@-DarkFox-]

You are a good dude, Grumpy.

[@B3n3f1t]

Možeš li ti sa tim okom uopšte upotrebavat Eye tracker? Volim tvoj content i tvoj video nastavi tako pozdrav iz Beča!

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

@@B3n3f1t mogu tobii. Nisam probao ovo cudo, jer nemam web kameru. Samo sam video dobre recenzije na netu. Ali ako sponzorisu review, kupicu pa ces znati :)

[@alwayssearching4760]

And the problem isn't Chris it isn't CIG. It's his greedy wife Sandi

[@eTreyu27]

RIP Star Wars Squadrons. Could have been one of the greatest of all time.

[@jt4185]

I appreciate when you share your opinion

[@TheEVEInspiration]

F F F, i think this video gets demonetized ;)

[@dreios]

Got my like on the gloves off

[@shadowsrwolf]

But its so imersive

[@gergenskits3940]

you can't buy the ATLS with store credit?

[@stuartriddell2461]

You can. I did it, I melted my arrow and bought one in-game. When the atls is in-game I will buy the arrow again.

[@gergenskits3940]

@@stuartriddell2461 yeah, I had seen it for $40 and $35 warbond. so I didnt understand why he said it required fresh money

[@sorentheblade]

I'd like to say, in terms of gameplay balancing, the multi-tool being nerfed into oblivion was always inevitable. Expected even. It's like needing a welder, so you get one on wish to save money. It's probably gonna work, maybe, but it won't hold a candle to the power of well constructed welders. The multi-tool is the most basic-of-the-basic tools. It should only be capable of doing the smallest of tasks. This new Atlas is a welcome addition to the game, people who enjoy cargo running (yes, people enjoy playing just to run cargo) will find it extremely useful. The scummy things to do, however, is add it to the game and lock it behind a paywall for no apparent reason, like the 'NURSA'. These are necessary pieces of equipment to have for use in their field. Yet you can't obtain them in-game yet. I would understand selling them before the dev cycle is complete, and continuing to sell them for irl cash as an easy way to obtain something you don't want to grind in-game for. But to remove it from the game completely to generate revenue on an item that everyone will need is the height of arrogance and greed. It seems to me that CIG is acting as if community sentiment will never shift, and it shows just how out of touch they truly are. It's going to be the marketing department, more than anything else, that drives players away from this game. Edit: i typed this out right before hearing you say the exact same thing. Well played, sir😂😂 Edit #2: I also want to say, the way you deliver your content is so refreshing. Most content creators are so focused on not stepping on any toes that they rarely manage to offer a genuine representation of how they feel. In my opinion, you fall firmly into the very small list of creators that is actually worth listening to. Don't ever change it up dude. Well done 👍🏻 Final edit: If they've been using backers money to develop ANYTHING other than what we've been paying you for, while simultaneously building a monetization model around the open communication with your community of your development process (which is basically actively lying to us about the amount of resources you've been dedicating to the project) then there will be no turning back. I can't even tell you how many beloved franchises I quit in recent years because of the absolute disgust of these predatory monetization models. I REALLY don't want Star Citizen to be the next one added to that list.

[@bentwing7397]

positive aka WOKE

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

Nah. Wokeness has nothing to do with it.

[@bentwing7397]

@@GrumpyEyeGaming Ya got yer point lol

[@maydayj2099]

Stop making SC videos its a dead game, i like your format though.

[@harrisoncortis8416]

S H A M

[@Snarkonymous]

Meh

[@rock_eye2993]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@VFW-Mayer]

I think that CIG should do several things for more backer money. These Apply ONLY for the Alpha and Beta. Not after the game goes live. 1. Only give Lifetime Insurance to ships purchased with cash and not ingame. 2. Give Lots of Perks on ONLY ships purchased while supporting the game. 3. Make it CLEAR that the perks will only apply to ships PURCHASED with Cash and not Ingame. 4. Add A Subscription Option with Perks to every aspect of the game. Give us a REASON to Subscribe. More Ingame Currency, Security, Faction Earned, Just like World of Warships.

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

LOL. No.

[@danielcrawford572]

lol.. double no.

[@KarlKaput]

Thought you quit?

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

You know I ban people for that question, right? 😂

[@KarlKaput]

@@GrumpyEyeGaming yeah but you're my biggest simp so you won't :P

[@younboyce7068]

Fuk this game boring every second

[@doubledigital_]

instead of crying about a game you aint played in 6 months .. play summit els! the game is fucking buggy and mental and ye prob garbage.. yet ALLL the content creators still make vids .. wonder why that is. ^_^

[@Napster60]

Regarding your issues with the Atls. Its 40 bucks for the Atls Fact check False: Its 35.. its more expensive than an Aurora/Murlin fact check, partly true: There are 4 versions of the Aurora.. Its exactly in the middle price wise. Murlin is 20 bucks and is one of the most useless ships in the game.. Poor comparison. it costs more then a speeder/hovercraft Fact Check: Some yes. Some NO.. Again. Poor comparison.. If anything just showing its priced very similar to small/starter vehicles and ships.. Like.. EXACTLY where it should be. You can buy a game for 40 bucks: You can buy a game for 99 cents.. or $400.. What point are you making other then showing your upset? "They only want fresh money" Fact Check: False. You can use in store credit to buy the non "warbond" version.. "it should be in game because its essentially a tool" UHH.. YA.. All the ships/vehicles/weapons/tools come to in game stores shortly after being in the online store.. NOBODY is making you buy things with real money. NOBODY is forcing you to play RIGHT NOW instead of waiting for the thing you want to come to in game stores later on. They are funding this game remember? If they where being purely greedy then NON of the ships would come to the in game stores.. Star Citizen is one of the LEAST expensive games you can get your hands on.. Game packages as low as 40 bucks and sometimes cheaper on a sale can get you into the game and able to start earning all this stuff in game.. The only exception being new things not yet added to the in game stores and shops, and yet that just goes back to you just needing to be be patient. Again.. Nobody is making you rush. IF you don't want to buy it with real money.. Just wait you manchild.. The whole idea of them being "greedy" comes from guys like you that demand instant release of stuff like this. Is it greed? or is it the cost of being and running a business? Be honest with yourself and your video.. Alot of what you said was downright false or misleading.

[@GrumpyEyeGaming]

J3PT is that you?

[@holy8782]

- Your claim that is $35 is also partially true. You can buy it for $35, but it's also $40. - The Aurora argument that you're doing is simply grasping at straws. - The speeder argument that you're doing is also grasping at straws. He still is correct that it's more expensive than a speeder. - Yes and those games tend to be a complete game. Not a ship in an alpha that's been here for 10+ years. - You can, but let's be real. The majority of the people more than likely didn't use store credit. - That typical argument. Yes, those things will come into the game "Shortly" is debatable though. With that being said, at the current moment. The ATLS came right as they nerfed the multi-tools to the point that they're a pain in the ass to use. - Yes, everyone is aware of that. With that being said, that doesn't mean twiddle your thumbs and look the other way or even better. Making excuses for such behavior. Star Citizen is one of the least expensive games you can get your hands on. Then you look at the store and see shit that's more than people make in a month. Hell, even in an entire year. Add that to the fact that they increased the price of the ships (which let's be real, should've happened when the game is in the stages of being released. Not while being an alpha while we still have no idea when the actual release is. Now, let's talk about being a manchild. This isn't being a manchild, it's pointing out something that's scummy. But anyways, I'll be honest about this. It's probably better to be a manchild than a yes man. You love Star Citizen. Cool, so do I. But my love for Star Citizen is not going to blind me from terrible business practices that if any and I mean ANY other company would've done. We would be calling them them to be shut down. You claim what he said was downright false or misleading. But no, that's not really the case here. CIG is pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable business practices. We need to put our foot down and say that instead of making excuse for them. We don't need another Ubisoft/EA.