AWVR Unstoppable Locomotive wreck scene

[@HankAmericanEngine]

If you watched the behind the scenes on the making of this derailment, the two locos were bound for the smelter's torch; they were bought and modified to suit the movie. Better than being cut up in my opinion.

[@gedhoughton9523]

Yeah, like a bit of glory for them. Going out with a bang, literally. 🥲

[@Thephenomenalvoa]

10 years ago.. you alive bro?

[@randomsource]

Excellent movie. When you see the special effects added to flush out the whole scene, it is truly amazing

[@chrisjayr]

Very sad, been working for a railroad for 10 years, it sad to see people purposely derail and destroy a perfectly good locomotive set...

[@MrWolfSnack]

Find the ones rotting on abandoned sidings in the woods, and you can also buy a lot of complete engines for $5k and up from railroad salvage auctions. Need a big chunk of land to even store just one.

[@pivkaaa]

Yeah especially the movie quality because of which the loco was wrecked is sad:)

[@Eric-zi1oz]

Not to worry. They were mock ups..

[@hudsonriver3188]

I thought something looked too casual and why they were already all there when it happened. Thanks for confirming. Hugh waste of a killer wrig

[@MrAlex-ej8ov]

they were mock ups

[@user2C47]

Probably empty shells, with batteries to run the lights.

[@Ham549]

Alex Jamieson most of the locomotive with Plywood And fiberglass through a few body panels from real locomotive but other than that they were fake

[@ZakWolf]

I remember with the train wreck in "The Fugitive" they wrecked actual rolling stock; the locomotive in the derailment was an empty shell, basically a "dummy" engine.

[@scubajoe3321]

Yes but without the motors part

[@Gipsy_danger9097]

Nope the locomotives have every piece that explains a lot behind the movie every locomotive is a real train just some bugs and stuff

[@sicilian12345]

@bnsf5624illinois The 2 units seen here were mock ups with no internal engines or parts, just hallow shells.

[@nelandquinten]

its cool to see something that isnt cgi and is in fact real :) thnx for the pics

[@sicilian12345]

@JRNipper I agree completely, the movie was not great for people who understand locomotive operations and how railways work. As you said there were to many unrealistic scenes, poor acting and I felt the movie was rushed at times.

[@RFFSATV]

For some reason this is nostalgic and a childhood 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@JRNipper]

Most folks assume that because a loco is in a lashup that it is a functioning unit. I don't recall if I saw exhaust from all the locos when I saw the film, but we hauled quite a few dead locos in from other areas of the country. One that I vividly recall was one of our Soo SD locos that, for reasons unknown, sat dead in a yard in Kentucky so long that when it arrived at our shop it needed a lot of attention before the prime mover could be turned over (batts dead, water was drained, etc)

[@BB_Rail]

Awsome video man. I love all of your videos. I live in Tyrone, and was in school all week and only got to see some filming after school on Tuesday. Thanks for all the videos you took. By the way, whats the name of this song?

[@spudy1216]

UNSTOPPABLE!! Cracking movie!! One of the best!

[@crapper1]

Just a typical day at norfolk southern

[@RedtailFox1]

yeah, although that last bit, up on all the wheels on one side? has actually happened, was in New Zealand back in the steam days, they have a section called the 'corkscrew' and a steam express came down there too fast trying to make up time, rose up onto one side yet held the rail enough to get away with it.......although when they tried to do it again the next day, onto its side it went.

[@Boxpok]

If my ever failing memory serves me correct they got these two SD40-2's from Larry's Truck and Electric LTEX, a used locomotive dealer

[@milkminotaur]

@JRNipper I quickly got over many of the issues you mention but constantly reminding myself that i was watching a film.

[@kyaing9047]

The odds of finding 777 is impossible, because it got repainted in its CP/CN livery and went back to Canada.

[@westfolk]

+lenora squier They run in the States. Search "777 & 767 after repaint". That video I posted was in Wisconsin. It has all four of the locomotives that were in the movie. They are CP units.

[@HannibalXoner]

+Cimarron Westfolk CP=Canadien Pacific (they run in canada not the states)i know because i live in canada your thinking of SP (southern pacific)

[@heathercarpenter1053]

+Lenora Squier i am thinkg 777 was a long way back from 7375

[@HannibalXoner]

+Burlington Northerndude it doesn't run in us normally but yea

[@westfolk]

+Shineminer222 Gaming So, considering the fact that the Canadian Pacific OWNS and OPERATES the old Lackawanna line in PA....in which Canadian Province is the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania....since it's not in the United States. Also, since I have a video of all four units of 777 & 767 after repaint to CP colors filmed in Sturtevant, WI which province is that state in? Like you said you line in Canada, which is why you don't know what runs the rails here in the US. I can watch CP power go by everyday of the week. But then again maybe I just don't know what country I'm in.

[@westfolk]

The song is Flowersandfireflies by Samantha Murphy off the CD Somewhere between Starving instrumentals.

[@alannance2508]

I work for Norfolk southern is did you notice the engine go into 2 facing point switches. It doesn't look like a derail is there unless they did movie magic on it. The engines made it fine on the first switch but when it hits the 2 one it derails. Maybe the switch was gaped so it could derail. ( Commonly known as a run threw switch). There was a derail further down the track.

[@gabecarroll]

Love the music 🎶

[@brakie44820]

Actually a CSX engineer did just that in Stanley yard and SD40-2 8888 made her famous unmanned run with 47 cars..8888 was stopped South of Kenton(Oh).. In terminal switching the air isn't cut in..

[@SpeakerPolice]

Heh, I totally agree...I was trying not to bust up laughing in the theater when an EMD 645 startup was used for the GE AC44! x3

[@JRNipper]

My fav loco is the SD-40-2, they have the best ride and great amenities. I suppose like other groups of aging locos they will be phased out, but you never know. The yard I work at in St. Paul, MN still had some GP9s from the 1950's still on the roster in 1998, although they were in tough shape they still worked and were used for local jobs. Another thought, sometimes locos will be transported to other yards that are in need of power, I once saw 6 SD units pulling empty coal hoppers, go figure.

[@midrange18]

I'm reading many posts of people thinking this was a real accident. This was the movie set for unstoppable. This was the scene where they try to put the 2 engines in the front of 777. Good movie.

[@westfolk]

Yes, also if you look close in this you can see cables. In other videos I've done you can see the "thing" they built on the second locomotive. Combination of being pushed up from the bottom and being pulled over from the upper side.

[@JRNipper]

That is amazing, they were very fortunate! The yard I worked at in St. Paul, MN is where a BN freight crashed when it lost its brakes while coming down the Great Northern Hill. The switches are computer controlled and could not be manually operated, so the runaway entered our yard blowing through switches and curves made for a top speed of 15 MPH, and the runaway was going 50, it never derailed until it hit the Ford Hauler head-on. See it here on YT, search "Saint Paul, Minnesota Train Crash"

[@southernpacific7200]

It must have costed a lot to get a few locos painted.

[@westfolk]

@tigermki Hollywood. I know no other way of explaining it. If you look close here, or in the movie you might catch the filming error of this wreck. Where they flipped these two "tin cans on wheels" is in one place. They then lifted them up, and moved them about 150 feet back. Then they blew them up.

[@mytfy1]

Why was this presentation in "freeze frame"? When you look at it closely, the people observing are in no rush to move as if they already know what the outcome will be. lol

[@pitt15220]

@tigermki First this is a movie, second trains do explode sometimes when they derail, just like when a plane crashes and all the fuel leaks out, any kind of spark will set it off. Depends on what cars of the train derail, and whats inside of them too. When the train derailed outside of Emporium, PA almost 10 yrs ago, that was just toxic chemicals. No fuel....no boom.

[@westfolk]

Not abandoned track. It is former NS trackage. Now owned by WNY&P. It sees regular traffic for the Driftwood turn. Here in this location they did load coal cars up until a little while ago. So, the siding rails don't get that much use any more.

[@westfolk]

Sounds about right. Just north of this location on 06-30-2006 the NS had a 29 car derailment that dumped sodium hydroxide in the river.

[@vitissubrailfan2540]

Cimarron Westfolk THEY SHOULD HAVE LEFT THEM ALONE A.D NOT BLOW THEM UP

[@nawmtu]

Nice job on 1M views!

[@rvndmnmt1]

We still use GP 35's. One of which is probably our best switching engine that we have. Loads up almost instantly. But they are in tough shape. Two of which we have leased from BNSF that we have to maintain. Our beloved 3635, short of no AC, that thing can haul 2500 tons on it's own and our short line is suffering because of it. Other than that we are stuck with former AMTRAK mother and slugs. Talk about useless, damn things constantly going down for one reason or another.

[@SupernalOne]

you know what the single engineer who took this train out should have done: grabbed a younger guy to come with him - then when the engineer got his speed matched with the runaway train and the coupling made, even badly, the younger guy could have stepped across to the runaway train, climbed up in the cab, and shut it off.

[@Elfnetdesigns]

Or when they coupled to the tail of the train all they had to do was put the newly attached locos in idel and have the kid release the air line valve on the last hopper car.. Loss of pressure puts the whole train into emergency stop.

[@jayjowers5530]

watch the movie no air breaks were hooked

[@Creeperboy099]

That was what stopped CSX 8888; a sheriff tried to shoot the fuel cutoff switch, but it didn't work. After that, someone jumped into the cab and cut off the throttle.

[@westfolk]

@retrovetteguy No, they are props. I watched them being built. I have another video showing them being put together....trust me. All of the leased equipment stayed upright, except for the few cars that derailed in Ohio during filming there. There are a couple videos of that on here somewhere by other people.

[@tonimtions]

@tigermki The train has a full tank of highly combustable Diesel fuel used to power the locomotive. After derailing at say, a minimum of 45mph, a spark ignites the fuel in the dual locomotive causing the tanks to explode.

[@JRNipper]

OK on the GP35s, another decent GM product. Our shop was strickly GM, the mechanics and electricians LOVED them. When G.E. brought in one of their new 4400 AC locos, I recall one of our most experienced electricians stepping off of it muttering: "GE should have stuck to making light bulbs." I guess that says it all. We got rid of all our GE locos many years ago, and for good reason, they just didn't hold up as well as the GMs did, and the proof is in those 60 year-old GP9s still running yet.

[@AndrewNeilFalconer]

@harrier331 They had to remove the prime mover and other parts of the SD40-2 pair before they derailed them, to make them light enough to push over.

[@salemcripple]

Ah, that's what threw me off. I've driven trucks before, just assumed that trains were the same (i'm only the most casual of rail-fan). I also didn't know that trucks use to be like that as well. Thanks!

[@JRNipper]

I liked the SD-40-2, they have the best ride and great amenities. I suppose like other groups of aging locos they will be phased out, but you never know. The yard I worked at in St. Paul, MN still had some GP9s from the 1950's still on the roster in 1998, although they were in tough shape they still worked and were used for local jobs. Another thought, sometimes locos will be transported to other yards that are in need of power, I once saw 6 SD units pulling empty coal hoppers, go figure.

[@MEXICANRAILROAD]

Woow great shots¡¡¡ ¡¡

[@TheRazorbackpilot]

I found that out just after I posted that. They look like big giant toy trains(some detail is off). Found photos of them on RailPictures. I thought the funniest looking one was that AC44 cab prop with a utility truck hi-rail behind it.

[@PoopFilm]

Thanks a lot!

[@westfolk]

Samantha Murphy. From the CD, Somewhere between starving and stardom.

[@Railfan_Chester4628]

I like how its a replica of SD40-2 just to work

[@BB_Rail]

Haha okay, i found the video on youtube. thanks again for the good detailed videos!

[@ffjsb]

@aricars6263 They used real locomotives and rail cars in "The Fugitive" as well. I was done on the Smokey Mountain Railroad in NC.

[@robertgift]

@OpeiGrafikka Thank you. I see hydraulic devices which appear to push them over. Sad thathey used real engines. Presumably they were ready for scrap but painted to look new. Why did they not simply send them around the curve fast enough to derail naturally? Unable to control the result well enough?

[@Tigersfan829]

@tigermki most likely for special effects, but theres hundreds of gallons of diesel fuel in train fuel tanks...so its possible if that spills

[@slow758]

looked really real in the movie :D

[@TheRazorbackpilot]

wonder if those are ex-KCS SD40-2s. I bet there's a list of what equipment they used and where it all came from.

[@westfolk]

Yeah, they are just props. They spent several weeks building them. From a distance they look real, except for the couplers hooking them together. You can see that in another video I did of them while the two of them were still being built. On the inside there's nothing except for framework to hold it all together.

[@Whiskeybuisness]

I noticed the hydraulic rams with long bars on them to facilitate the overturning of the engine. I didnt think it was traveling that fast.....

[@KKEM641]

If I recall, I think all in the consit where operating. Even then with AC traction, and 4300/4000 HP on the point, I still should have been able to start out in notch 3-4 (if not lower, but then again I am guessing, and I am just a foamer so I do not know). I agree there where several errors, however it was still entertaining. Too bad about Crazy 8's though, it belongs in a muesem. Being a conductor - what is your favorite all time locomotive, and will the SD40 (group) ever die?

[@LoganisTrainBoy1]

6 of the 13 railroaders I talked to have had runaways. Lost there air in all happened in between notch 3-6 and all managed to stop there trains within 3 miles. Their trains were anywhere in between .8-1.4 miles long. And the true story of this movie happened on CSX the train went a max of 50 so MPH and with just simple dynamic breaking they slowed it enough to get a man aboard. So at 70 it wouldnt be as hard as it was in the movie to stop.

[@AndrewNeilFalconer]

This reminds me of a Star Trek: Voyager plot device where they have to fail dramatically with a fatality before finding the obvious solution.

[@bigshow196]

basically just have any knowledge of them, and some things just glare like a light in the dark. but nothing can compare to real world experience......something i wish i could gain one of these days

[@westfolk]

Glad you like it. Would have been better if it was a streaming video, but hey....take what you can get. Overall, I think it came out alright though.

[@junkdeal]

@CimarronWestfolk Boy,I'm puzzled with the prop thing. That's a lot of detail that seems unnecessary to include to fool most people. Did they use loco parts like cabs , hoods etc.? It would've been easier than mocking up from scratch. Someone said cables pulled it over, but it looks like a light stand with cables that was hit. Or maybe a impact board to trigger hydraulics. The cyinders push down on bars that slide along the track to jack it over, right? Altogether real-looking!

[@westfolk]

These two units are actually no rail company's. They are both props built feet from where they end up on their side. They look real, but are very far from it. They built the both of them over the course of nearly two months.

[@inspector647]

That's a wast of a good sd40-2

[@DieselElevators]

+christian richardson Two of them.

[@saradachanagani4479]

Quirky Kitsune

[@jordantherailfanner7506]

They were built for the movie.

[@EvilDarkCow]

@CaliforniaRailfan101 They were props filled with explosives. However, 1206 was real, but repaired after the movie.

[@westfolk]

@junkdeal Yes they did put some time in building these. They worked at it for a few weeks. Why I have no idea. But you have to admit they do look real. As I understand the workings of flipping them over. The hydraulics started the flip on the first unit. Then the cables pulled the second unit up with it and then the both of them flipped on over. If you've seen the trailer for the movie and the quick glimspe of this scene you'd never guess what it really looked like when they did it.

[@Thechosenone556]

RIP AWVR 7375 and AWVR 7346 1990 - 2010 :(

[@SpeakerPolice]

The SD40-2s used in this scene were actually 1:1 scale models...they were never real locomotives. I was relieved to hear this myself!

[@TFN5459]

@Machil77 Yea the real ones both Wheeling and Lake Erie SD40-3s are back in service. I believed they've been repainted to the WLE's take on the black and orange Speed scheme of the Denver and Rio Grande Western

[@DASCO2136]

@AzBaja it was actually based off of a real life incident about 10 years ago. Type up on google CSX 8888 incident

[@DJ4000VOLT]

Woulda been Kool if u hadda video taped but tha slide show is still very good

[@thescotsman48]

Man sieht besonders schön die Hydraulik die die Lokomotiven umkippen soll.

[@BurlingtonNorthernModeler]

@GoldenCreekValleyRR There really was no destruction at all in the CSX runaway. Just on broken De-railer

[@Unclesamslair]

man, gotta love those unrealistically low-flying helicopters

[@westfolk]

@sheacd1 You should read the ENTIRE description. Since it started in Toledo, OH and contunied to travel in Ohio until it was stopped at what point was it in Illinois?

[@TrackMaster555]

@tigermki the impact on the diesel fuel tank blew it up

[@SimonKinsingerMountainReigns]

I thoroughly enjoyed that movie! It was so cool! Everytime they thought they could stop the train something else happened that wasnt supposed too!

[@Mperfection49]

Does anyone notice the hydralic rams at 0:08 that flips the units. judging by the diameter of the rods it looks like the whole unit weighs around 20 tons or so.

[@westfolk]

They had no power themselves that I know of, or have been able to confirm. In another video of mine you can see one the service trucks from the railroad, WNY&P, hooked to them. Which is how they moved them around. It is my understanding that they pushed them down the line at speed, and let go. In this slideshow they are just rolling without power. I couldn't be there that day, I wish I could have and got some video.

[@slapbattles2091]

Did they get scraped

[@retrovetteguy]

no they are leased Wheeling and Lake Erie units...trust me

[@mikey765l]

@tigermki easy you put explosives inside of the locomotive and then when the time is right you set them off. there you go the train explodes same things goes with cars. gas does not explode unless its a vapor. trust me i got a good source my father is a fire fighter it just doesn't happen like in hollywood

[@AznduelistakaTeriyaki777]

dude thats the train that was in to a movie unstoppable! O.O

[@HannibalXoner]

Learn to read the fricken title of the video

[@ApoapsisGaming]

for the ones who didn't know Unstoppable was based on the CSX 8888 incident(That is why its AVWR 777), The CSX 8888 incident, also known as the Crazy Eights incident, was an unmanned runaway CSX Transportation freight train in the U.S. state of Ohio in 2001(thanks google)

[@MultiMonster69]

i think the reason it "blew up" was A. hollywood and B. im pretty sure where the train rolls over there just ahppens to be a fuel station

[@rc8rsracer]

@GoldenCreekValleyRR yes it did not this particular scene but most of the movie did

[@Machil77]

@TFN5459 no, there not real locomotives.. I've seen the special edition of the movie, and there was an "making of" included. It was as I can remember an truck made look like an locomotieve.

[@bigshow196]

you dont have to. Ive been reading, and learning about trains sense i was a kid watching the amtrak pass through with my grandad way back. and i could point out all the stuff normal people wouldnt pay attention to. same with transformers, and fast 5....im kind of a vehicle/military nut, lol

[@bnsf5624illinois]

They wrecked a good pair of engines... RIP

[@mikey765l]

@railman2015 no that is not correct spark or even cigar in my grandpa case plus bucket of gasoline just means cigar goes out or at the most a flame thats it no boom= why does everyone think gasoline is so unstable= it has to be in a vapor form to explode i mean hell you get a cloud of saw dust that will explode aswell

[@riverlifeva]

@sheacd1 you should read the link after he said "based on this incident"

[@Oklahomarailroadproductions]

R.I.P to the sd40-2’s sad derailment trying to stop 777 Evan though 777 jumped the switch :(

[@simonusciski6007]

I hope the locomotives from that scene in the aftermath were either scrapped or being repaired & returning to service with Wheeling & Lake Erie.

[@frostbyte3978]

it's just a 1:1 scale shell built out of scrap parts according to others.

[@PanekAttack]

This video makes me cry, they destroyed 2 perfectly good locomotives

[@amtrak5062]

They were empty shells made out of scrap that weren't functioning

[@imaghostbuster36]

@CimarronWestfolk hav u posted the vid of the mock up 1s??

[@WandersonOlivei]

do you have the full making of from Unstoppable?

[@westfolk]

@Videographer1234567 And when 20th Century Fox lets you have stills, not video..which no one else has..you do what you can.

[@salemcripple]

correct me if i'm wrong, but because the train brakes were disconnected on the 777, wouldn't that mean that he they were stuck ON, not off since air brakes require pressure to disengage?

[@Videographer1234567]

@CimarronWestfolk r u trying to say it was a movie set?

[@LionDusty]

@zequelll We'll see if it works out any better. At least the special effects will have a real budget now :P

[@westfolk]

@imaghostbuster36 I have four videos showing the these props. This video for one. Then search awvr prop locomotives for two others. Then search awvr emporium for the last. In that video stop it at the 0:30 mark. Look at the engine numbers. To the leftt are the real ones, in the distance to the right are the props.

[@westfolk]

This will be a movie. Scheduled release date of 11-12-10.

[@ppoutine]

I knew my model trains were realistic!

[@westfolk]

@TheTVGuy45 Not real. It is from the filming of the movie Unstoppable.

[@westfolk]

Because I wasn't there. I used what was given to me. Check the info to the right of the video. You don't know how bad I wished I could have been there. It's only 25 miles from home. I would have taken video as I have with all the others.