Sam Neill's char was dreaming of living in Montana and 3 years later he starred in Jurassic Park digging up fossils in Montana.
@blueroninstudios2 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA HOLY SH--, THATS RIGHT!
@jp38132 жыл бұрын
Apparently, he also travels to Montana in The Horse Whisperer.
@Steve_Blackwood2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have always mentally retconned this as being the outcome for his character. 😂
@fahooga2 жыл бұрын
A velociraptor on the Red October. Hmmm... ;)
@williewilliams65712 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there some manner of Recreational Vehicle at their Montana dig site?
@timhutchinson32642 жыл бұрын
4:59 "Don't open a window, you're in a goddamn sub...oh, it's a phone." OMG, I laughed my ass off, Simone!
@dubiumguy2 жыл бұрын
Cool fact. The transition between Russian to English during the zoom in on the officers mouth reading the biblical quote happens on the word Armageddon as its the same word in both Russian and English.
@GD-tt6hl2 жыл бұрын
The translation is on screen and of the Russian to English if you set it correctly, but nobody ever does set it correctly, so it doesn't ever appear on screen correctly... Unless you saw it on TV or in the the theater... You need to set it correctly to see the Russian to English from the beginning of the movie which no one ever does from the source...
@chrisculpepper53842 жыл бұрын
@@GD-tt6hl absolutely! The transition is even smoother when the words you are read and hearing all merge.. especially on Armageddon. Another vote for Das Boot... arguably the greatest submarine film ever made, and just damned good cinema whether you are into subs or not. Honestly, a guilty favorite is Wing Commander, just because we get to see Jurgen Prochnow in a submarine type situation again shouting to fire torpedoes (plus hours playing the game/story with Mark Hamill)
@mattymoowhite2 жыл бұрын
Also, the word "buckaroo" ( cowboy 🤠) is the same in English and Russian. (From the Spanish, Vaquero) . hence "buckaroo" appearing as a foreshadowing of its use near the climax
@laakeri842 жыл бұрын
Russian and English have a lot of common words. And it makes travelling in Russia much easier for one who hasn't ever learnt Russian. And the Russian cyrillic alphabets are quite fast to learn for one you has already learned the Greek cyrillics, being anyone how's been in maths and physics classes.
@arrow14142 жыл бұрын
It was a Hindu quote.
@themidsouthcyclist88802 жыл бұрын
As an ex-sub engineer/nuclear (U.S.) from the Cold War, I can attest to the accuracy of this movie and its many details. A few discrepancies that my kind would recognize, but the rest is spot-on. The politics of the era, and the attitudes and demeanor of the crews and officers, and the tech is correct. Tom Clancy legit knew his subject. A quick note from the beginning: open flame/smelling burnt papers: boats completely turned over the air every 90 seconds, and back then smoking was a very regular and accepted activity on subs of every country.
@jbellrick2 жыл бұрын
I was going to post a comment that they had been smoking just a few moments ago. The open flame and smell of smoke wouldn't be suspicious unless it set off the fire suppression system.
@themidsouthcyclist88802 жыл бұрын
@@jbellrick Back in the "good old days" when we could smoke on boats.
@willmartin72932 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info on the smell of smoke from burning papers. I was wondering how that could be in the movie and not arouse any suspicion.
@pfeilspitze2 жыл бұрын
A bunch of the cast and crew got to ride along on _Salt Lake City_ under then-Commander Fargo, which is a huge part of them getting the demeanor correct. Glenn based his portrayal of Mancuso on that experience with Fargo.
@gorramgomer Жыл бұрын
I was going through sonar tech 'C' school when this movie came out. Us bubbleheads were kinda popular for a week or two.
@stuartking2 жыл бұрын
1:00 "This music is insanely epic" The composer is Basil Poledouris, who won a BMI Film Music Award for this film and also worked on such films as Conan the Barbarian, Robocop, and Starship Troopers.
@glamazon61722 жыл бұрын
"Between the time when the oceans drank Atlantis, and the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of..."
@sleepybobo24032 жыл бұрын
And the more understated yet sublime "Lonesome Dove" score (BMI and Emmy).
@carlossaraiva82132 жыл бұрын
Basil Poledouris is sadly missed.
@carlossaraiva82132 жыл бұрын
@@glamazon6172 i see you are a man of culture.
@jp38132 жыл бұрын
Free Willy
@raydurz2 жыл бұрын
If i remember correctly, Tom Clancy was interviewed by the Department of Defense because of his knowledge about military tactics and his technical expertise about US Navy subs and ships. They were wondering if he had insider knowledge (ie. somebody in the Navy was leaking secrets), but it turned out that all the information he had was public. He was just really good at putting it together into a great story
@kingscorpion73462 жыл бұрын
yeah, Tom Clancy had a friend, an officer in the Navy that started a new D&D style game called Proceedings that dealt with the military. in the opening scenes of the movie when introducing Jack Ryan and the camera is panning over a number of books, you will see the Proceedings book in the stack.
@ronmaximilian69532 жыл бұрын
This isn't the book that did that. It was actually Red Storm rising, where he wrote about a the Soviets going to war against NATO.
@jollyrogerhobbies23862 жыл бұрын
@@ronmaximilian6953 Red Storm rising is my all time favorite book. I have read and re-read that book over a hundred times in my life time. It was co-authored by Larry Bond, another great military writer.
@Chyll072 жыл бұрын
Similar thing happened with a submarine novel Frank Herbert wrote in the sixties
@theuncoveredlamp2 жыл бұрын
My friend's uncle was a submariner and admiral, when he saw this movie in theaters he came out paper white and all he could say is "they shouldn't know that"
@davewolf62562 жыл бұрын
Recommendation: Das Boot is considered by some to be the best WW2 movie ever made. And it is certainly one of the most accurate submarine naval war film ever made.
@slomo98312 жыл бұрын
sadly, it's nearly 5h long
@rosetoren38812 жыл бұрын
@@slomo9831 The original film is 2 1/2 hours long.
@umgssda2 жыл бұрын
The 5 hour version is basically just a merge of the original TV mini series.
@frankishempire23222 жыл бұрын
@@rosetoren3881 "The original film is 2 1/2 hours long." Cut together from the original mini-series of 5h.
@Rafa-pr5fe2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I recommend the 200-minute director's cut. In my opinion, it is the perfect screen adaptation of the book. And of course one more thing: Das Boot is like Rammstein songs. You can only watch them in the original, i.e. German language version, which means that you have to read the subtitles. Unless you know German.
@mayorjimmy2 жыл бұрын
"i'm a politician, which means i'm a cheat and a liar. when i'm not kissing babies, i'm stealing their lollipops." one of the best lines ever.
@3Rayfire2 жыл бұрын
Genuinely legendary. "BUT it also means I keep my options open."
@garethstanden37322 жыл бұрын
any line you here once 30 years ago and remember has to be...
@xheralt Жыл бұрын
If only real politicians were so self-aware.
@RideAcrossTheRiver8 ай бұрын
@@xheralt Well, the story sure nails down Zampolit ... Putin.
@paulfeist2 жыл бұрын
I can't recommend reading the book highly enough! All of the things you were a little confused about (technical stuff)... are explained to the reader in a way only Tom Clancy could - interestingly! And, you get to read all the little sub-plots and nuances that the movie had to skip. It's a quick-reading book, because it engages you from beginning to end. Grab the Kindle version and binge read over a weekend. You won't regret it.
@Quotenwagnerianer2 жыл бұрын
My favourite part is at the end after they have all been rescued and the russian crew has just watched E.T., everybody cried their eyes out and then someone asks what they should see next and everybody votes to see it again.
@logandarklighter2 жыл бұрын
I don't have anything creative to add - just - LISTEN TO THIS GUY. I've read the book too - and everything he says is SPOT ON.
@puterbac2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Little things like what will the crew find most amazing about America? The answer is something we Americans take for granted on a huge scale: Grocery Stores. At least in the non-Biden era always stocked with ridiculous variety of products including fruits and veggies even in the winter. Ryan tells them American farmers are even paid to not grow too much wheat which they don’t believe. Watch videos of folks from communist countries first time going to Home Depot, wal mart, Kroger’s, etc and you see the tears in their eyes.
@jainthorne41362 жыл бұрын
@@puterbac I think you mean in the recovering from the Trump disaster pandemic not the non-Biden era. Trump was such a disaster handling both the pandemic and the economy that it's taking some time to recover especially as the QGOP is more interested in grabbing power than in supporting democracy in our nation.
@puterbac2 жыл бұрын
@@jainthorne4136 nope
@HydraulicDesign2 жыл бұрын
The Internet needs more Red October content. The ultimate "Dad Thriller."
@3Rayfire2 жыл бұрын
Me who's loved this film since the age of ten..."I don't know how to feel about that appellation."
@MichaelScheele2 жыл бұрын
I read the novel when I was in college, a couple of years before the movie adaptation was made.
@stephenjones5132 Жыл бұрын
But did you see it when you were 10 of your own accord or did Dad have something to do with it?
@lindapassey7538 Жыл бұрын
I get where you are coming from, however this is one of my favorite movies and I’m a woman. 🤷🏻♀️
@suflanker452 жыл бұрын
The book is loosely based on a true story. In 1975 the Baltic based Soviet warship Storozhevoy experienced a mutiny in port led by the political officer. However defection was not the original plan. The political officer was hoping to start a popular uprising in depose the current corrupt Soviet leadership. The entire enlisted crew went along but only about half the officers supported the mutiny. Those against the mutiny were locked up below decks. One of the officers who voted for the mutiny actually escaped the ship during the night to raise the alarm. Realizing the jig was up the political officer set sail that night to make a run to Sweden. However the Soviet Navy and Air Force chased the ship down, attacked and disabled the ship about 20 miles from Swedish waters. The political officer was put on trial found guilty and shot. The rest of the crew were kicked out of the navy. The concept of placing the subs orders in a safe and not being able to read them until the sub put to sea is part of operational security (OPSEC) The route missile subs patrol along are highly classified so the sub's orders are hard copies that come direct from headquarters in a sealed packet to prevent enemy agents from finding out the sub's mission.
@donsample10022 жыл бұрын
The opening text about a missile sub mysteriously surfacing in the North Atlantic might also be inspired by a real incident in 1986, where a Soviet missile sub surfaced, and he crew abandoned ship off Bermuda, after ere was an onboard fire. The real story of what happened didn't come out until several years after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
@jollyrogerhobbies23862 жыл бұрын
@@donsample1002 The story of K-19, now a movie!
@donsample10022 жыл бұрын
K-19 was a different incident, from the 1960s. I was referring to the K-219 incident, which did have a made-for-TV movie made about it, which bore very little resemblance to the real event.
@mikefrank1152 жыл бұрын
I would say "inspired" more than "based". If I recall correctly Clancy even mentions the Storozhevoy incident in the book.
@colormedubious47476 ай бұрын
American boomers don't patrol along planned routes. They wander randomly around large swaths of ocean. Only they -- not even their group commanders -- know exactly where they are at any given time.
@Patriiiiick2 жыл бұрын
This film is so good at building tension! It's the best game of poker, chess and cat & mouse all rolled into one.
@michaelw82622 жыл бұрын
18:23 "Is this the most technical movie we've watched?" And that's why most Tom Clancy books are called techno thrillers.
@paulcooper3611 Жыл бұрын
I served on a US submarine back in the day. In 1974 we picked up a Russian sub running back and forth over a distinctive underwater formation near Iceland. The Russians used to do this to reset their inertial navigation system. Then it turned away and disappeared. Looking at the chart, we realized that there was a canyon that ran all the way to American coast. The canyon would channel the sub's noise, making it virtually undetectable unless you were right above it. There were rumors that they were doing this but we had actually observed it happening. At the end of our patrol, we turned in a report on it to Naval Operations. When the book and the movie came out I felt like I had contributed just a little bit to the plot.
@emrecer2 жыл бұрын
The 13th Warrior is one of his movies and it's a must see in my opinion. A great but underrated beowulf adaptation.
@adamskeans25152 жыл бұрын
it's an incredible movie
@BogeyTheBear9 ай бұрын
I'm so lucky I got to watch that movie _before_ playing any of the Elder Scrolls, because I can now only see it as a Skyrim adaptation of when Ulfric Stormcloak went to help Markarth.
@emrecer9 ай бұрын
@@BogeyTheBear'You're right. The forsworn :D and there is another movie named The Descent where you can see some Falmer like creatures and Flamer like behaviour :D
@TheDetailsMatter2 жыл бұрын
Not only does the arming system require two keys to be turned simultaneously, the two keyholes are more than an armspan apart and must therefore be turned by two different people. By taking both keys for himself, Ramius has made a missile launch from his submarine impossible.
@mattj20812 жыл бұрын
Unless he gave the key to someone he knew would follow his orders.
@michaelccozens2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffburnham6611 Speaking of ground-based nuclear missiles, they still run on 5.25" floppy disks (the ones that were actually "floppy"). It does have the advantage of being so hilariously obsolete that it's harder to hack. If you feel like not sleeping tonight, look up Jon Oliver's segment on the professionality and keen maintenance of the US nuclear force, or, more precisely, the howling lack of enough of either of those things. It's... not ideal. God only knows what the state of nuclear forces in other nations might be.
@Wolf-ln1ml2 жыл бұрын
Keeping one key would have been enough for that. So this whole "I'm keeping both" - especially without telling us that one man alone couldn't use both keys - is a bit of unnecessary fake drama. Considering that it never comes up in the movie again, it's even worse. But it's just a minor nitpick ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@FallenRingbearer2 жыл бұрын
@@Wolf-ln1ml Minor nitpicks are what comment section seem to be made for lol.
@folcotook3049 Жыл бұрын
@@Wolf-ln1ml I think the keeping the keys scene is to help feed the uncertainty of his intentions early in the movie.
@kenlangston34512 жыл бұрын
Crimson Tide with Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman is another great submarine movie from the mid-90’s. It is a tense thriller.
@simianinc2 жыл бұрын
Yep, and dialog punched up by Quentin Tarantino
@gregall21782 жыл бұрын
...and Aragorn ;-)
@ariochiv2 жыл бұрын
Much less realistic than _Red October,_ but very enjoyable.
@spaghetti98452 жыл бұрын
@@ariochiv the soundtrack is epic though
@w9gb2 жыл бұрын
That movie was directed by the late Tony Scott (Ridley Scott’s brother).
@calibre972 жыл бұрын
"Of all the souls I've encountered, his was the most...human." "I would've liked to have seen Montana." 2 of the few moments in movies were men choke up near universally.
@Knight1211982 жыл бұрын
both are very good submarine movies ;)
@carlossaraiva82132 жыл бұрын
"He's Conan the cimmerian, he doesnt cry, so i cry for him".
@calibre972 жыл бұрын
The first 'souls' line is from Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, in case you didn't know.
@Knight1211982 жыл бұрын
@@calibre97 Oh i knew, but the Mutara Nebula battle was the most submarine like combat ive seen in Sat trek that it could be considered one XD
@calibre972 жыл бұрын
@@Knight121198 I gotcha. The creeping about in the nebula was very much like a sub hunt. I just figured I should identify the movie just in case.
@tomasjallen2 жыл бұрын
The scene in the end with the ambassador is hilarious, both how it is written and the acting. "You lost another submarine?!"
@3Rayfire2 жыл бұрын
Layered over the fact that the Secretary has completely conned the Ambassador and knows everything the Ambassador isn't supposed to think he knows.
@RideAcrossTheRiver2 жыл бұрын
That got a big laugh in the theatre in 1990 along with "I said speak your mind ... but Jeezus!" Oh, and "HOOO, you talk about puke!"
@3Rayfire2 жыл бұрын
@@RideAcrossTheRiver Then he offered him a snickers. 🤣🤣
@RideAcrossTheRiver2 жыл бұрын
@@3Rayfire I barfed on the radio!
@3Rayfire2 жыл бұрын
@@RideAcrossTheRiver _"Shorted it out completely! And it wasn't that lightweight stuff either, it was that chunky industrial weight puke! , Hey you wanna bite?"_
@sdinvt2 жыл бұрын
So shortly after the book came out, Tom Clancy was investigated by the government because a lot of what he wrote in the book, they assumed, was stolen by either him or someone in the Navy. He was found innocent of the charges, he basically made a lot of intelligent assumptions about doctrines, tactics and how subs work that just turned out to be correct.
@GonkThePowerDroid2 жыл бұрын
Not surprised. He's just that good. His audio commentary on The Sum of All Fears proves just how much you can figure out with knowledge and common sense. He points out EVERYTHING they got wrong in that movie. "They would not use that helicopter for that operation. They would use a...". The poor director sitting next to him must really have suffered. His military knowledge is precise and detailed. And within politics and espionage it becomes obvious how obvious the secrets are.
@TheOneTrueChris2 жыл бұрын
@@jmacd8817 Exactly. And he explained to the government that if "A" and "C" are unclassified, but "B" is top secret, it's possible to infer what "B" is, even though you're using unclassified information.
@chrisleebowers2 жыл бұрын
The Navy made production change some details on the set of the American subs because the set designs were too close to reality. Like Clancy, they didn't have any leaked information, they just made smart guesses as to what would make sense and a few of their guesses were too good for The Navy's comfort.
@stephenbarrett88612 жыл бұрын
Also he basically prophesied 9 11.
@pablom-f87622 жыл бұрын
@@stephenbarrett8861 with a Japanese airliner. Pearl Harbor 2: Electric Boogaloo
@zo_leo84012 жыл бұрын
I recommend “Crimson Tide”. It’s another submarine movie with Denzel and Gene Hackmen. It’s a great movie
@OldRod992 жыл бұрын
I'll second that. Great submarine movie, lots of tension
@johnmiller76822 жыл бұрын
OMG, Crimson Tide was an awful movie. Especially if you know anything about the Navy, or submarines, or the military in general. Literally nothing in that movie could or would happen. The movie would have made some sense, if it had taken place in the 50's
@timstackii2 жыл бұрын
I 2nd this as a great movie, albeit not an accurate one. ... Maybe Down Periscope too. ;)
@emwungarand2 жыл бұрын
Former submariner. Crimson Tide is a joke as far as 'submarine movies' go. Action and drama but absolutely no semblance of realism in the movie.
@zo_leo84012 жыл бұрын
@@emwungarand hence the reason I said MOVIE and not non fiction documentary. This isn’t a documentary reaction channel. They do react to fictional movies.😂
@iKvetch5582 жыл бұрын
Simone and George: "Are there any other good McTiernans you guys wanna recommend?" All of us McTiernan fans: "Please, CineBinge....could you watch 13th Warrior, please?"
@jenssylvesterwesemann79802 жыл бұрын
Sooo very much!
@dochemlock2 жыл бұрын
Another of mctiernans great movies is The Thomas Crown Affair.
@dochemlock2 жыл бұрын
Another of mctiernans great movies is The Thomas Crown Affair.
@dochemlock2 жыл бұрын
The 13th Warrior is one of the greatest underrated films of all time.
@Knight1211982 жыл бұрын
omg one of my hidden fav movies!
@Robert-ht7om2 жыл бұрын
The character, Jack Ryan, shows up in several other movies most known to be portrayed by Harrison Ford.
@Glittersword2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how long I would have to search before I saw someone bring up Jack Ryan's extensive history in Clancy's stories. I just wish Dirk Pitt would be as successful.
@TheMule712 жыл бұрын
@7:50 The crew speaks Russian. They don't speak English for the most of the movie. We hear English due to movie magic. Ramius is not Russian, so he may actually have an accent. In Russian you'd hear a Lithuanian accent, but due to movie magic, you hear a Scottish one. The movie is relatively accurate in that. In the last part of the movie, some Russian officers do speak actual English, and actors put on a Russian accent for that.
@ewthmatth25 күн бұрын
You missed the part at 3:30 when George realizes the Soviet officers switch from Russian to English for story/"movie magic" purposes.
@csrhymer2 жыл бұрын
There is a version of this movie that subtitles the Russian dialog into English ... but that DVD is heavily copyright protected. In the book, Ramius' wife was in the hospital with appendicitis. The doctor that was performing her operation was drunk and she died ... but because the doctor had excellent political connections, nothing happened to him and that was what drove Ramius to defect.
@razorfett1472 жыл бұрын
Yea its a shame they sidelined the backstory on Ramius' wife in the film. Its alluded to that her death played a role in the captain's defection, but they never follow through with it. Always felt like a last minute rewrite whereby they changed Ramius' ultimate motivation as him trying to restore the balance of power between the 2 superpowers....when in the book it was good ole fashioned revenge
@joshualandry31602 жыл бұрын
It wasn't just the doctor. The antibiotic was replaced with water to inflate the production and make the factory look good. As I recall, she might have still recovered but for this.
@zandylovesrisk5 ай бұрын
@@razorfett147 Yup. I think that what Ramius said in his letter as well other than just 'burning his ships'.
@mrfomo2172 жыл бұрын
"You never talk about anything nice. You never dream, never hope." I feel you.
@erich.13552 жыл бұрын
It's like Simone was talking directly to me, at that moment...
@Unc13Fu2 жыл бұрын
You have to watch Das Boot. The single best submarine movie ever made. And don't watch the original cinematic release but the directors cut, or even better the 6 part miniseries, if you can get a hold of it. And obviously you should not watch the dubbed version but original with subtitles.
@formatique_arschloch2 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely with subtitles. Dubbing is a crime against humanity.
@JohnGuzik2 жыл бұрын
The 'true story' part was the mutiny onboard the Storozhevoy. If you're looking for an offbeat John McTiernan movie, Last Action Hero. It is a self-aware action schlock with Arnold in it.
@andersthomsen34092 жыл бұрын
Rubber baby buggy bumpers...
@iceman101292 жыл бұрын
Arnolds most underrated movie
@ahdvd2 жыл бұрын
Last Action Hero and Hudson Hawk are two of the best comedies ever made and they were both panned when they were released.
@clash5j2 жыл бұрын
Simone was on point for this one! She got pretty early on that the Russian sub would have to fake some kind of accident to get the crew off and called it that Vasily would not make it in the end
@puterbac2 жыл бұрын
The cook was GRU. He knew what the actual orders were and stayed behind to see. He was trying to ignite the first stage rocket motor of one of the nuclear missiles. The heat energy from the rocket motor would destroy the sub.
@artao52 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it
@chrisleebowers2 жыл бұрын
Did they say explicitly he was GRU in the book? The movie planted the idea of spies most likely being on board, but left it ambiguous like he might just have been a random no-name red-shirt ensign who could tell something was off and was just ballsy and patriotic enough to refuse to let them get away with it.
@puterbac2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisleebowers yep. I just found the full text online. The politburo is talking about what to do and Padorin talking about the cook: “He is, in fact, a graduate of the higher naval school for political officers at Kiev and the GRU intelligence academy.”
@puterbac2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffburnham6611 yeah. Trust nobody and everybody knew it. It’s like the couple in the bar in Chernobyl. If you’ve seen it, you know.
@ThePorpoisepower2 жыл бұрын
Edit: replying to wrong thread.
@avsbes982 жыл бұрын
Now that you have watched one great Submarine Movie, i hope that you'll take a look at another great Submarine Movie - Das Boot / The Boat. A german Movie about the Crew of a german Submarine during WW2, that is best viewed not as a Movie but as the ~300 minutes Miniseries, if possible in german with english subtitles. In German it also has a quite fitting tagline, which translated into english reads "a journey to the edge of the mind".
@avsbes982 жыл бұрын
If you want to check out a Trailer first, this is imo the best english trailer i could find: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmnQcmeIotV2nbM
@Paul_Waller2 жыл бұрын
Crimson Skies is also another good more recent Submarine movie with Gean Hackman and Denzel Washington. Das Boot IS another good Sub movie too, should they watch it in German with subtitles? or dubbed in English??
@avsbes982 жыл бұрын
@@Paul_Waller Right, i always forget Crimson Tides (which i think is the Movie you meant?), because while it is really good, it just gets outshone by the other two.
@avsbes982 жыл бұрын
@@Paul_Waller While afaik the Status of the English Language Dubbing Industry isn't great (at least compared to the german dubbing industry), i have also heard that the English dub of Das Boot is pretty good. So it would in my opinion come down to availability between the different versions of Das Boot. The most important is to try to get the Miniseries. If that is only available in english, watch it in english. Otherwise in german with english Subtitles unless the viewing experience suffers too much from having to read subtitles all the time.
@Wolf-ln1ml2 жыл бұрын
Yep, fully agreed on the miniseries. The cut down versions lose so much of the... "atmosphere" or "mood".
@BugahaJim2 жыл бұрын
I was a sonarman on a fast attack when the book came out so Jonesy was a favorite. A friend was on the USS Houston when the cast came aboard to get an idea of what is was like and he was teamed up with Courtney Vance who played Jonesy and changed some of the dialog in the script to more reflect what is really said in the sonar room.
@sean---the-other-one2 жыл бұрын
Tom Clancy writes some awesome stuff, including basically predicting 9-11 where a commercial plane was deliberately flown into a building to basically take out Congress. An excellent movie adaptation was Patriot Games - I’d highly recommend it. Harrison Ford as Jack Ryan and Sean Bean also starring in it.
@zvimur Жыл бұрын
Strangely enough Stephen King also had a 9-11 ending in a novel.
@fuzzzone3 ай бұрын
"You never talk about anything nice. Never dream, never hope." That's the most British thing I've ever heard from a Canadian.
@standasebek50332 жыл бұрын
I liked how they send the guy in the small rescue sub away. "Where am I supposed to go?" Could have been good after credits scene, him still just sitting in the middle of the ocean :-)
@wwoods662 жыл бұрын
Well, he goes back to the _Dallas._ Failing that, he goes to the frigate on the surface, though that might be a little hard to explain to the Soviet sailors.
@3Rayfire2 жыл бұрын
Actually he does return to the surface, it's a brief scene but you see him surfacing next to an American ship.
@BogeyTheBear9 ай бұрын
In case you're wondering what they did in the book, bear in mind the final sub battle took place _days_ after they got the Soviet crew off the sub. In the intervening time the Soviet officers got to watch movies off a VCR, ate an American breakfast for the first time, and learned all about supermarket shopping.
@alexflores76522 жыл бұрын
Fun Factoid: The guy playing the Senator was played by Richard Jordan. He was in Dune in 1984 and in Logan's Run. In Dune he was Duncan Idaho and in Logan's Run he was Francis 6. He passed away in 1993.
@kmwk5c2 жыл бұрын
I once heard Alex Baldwin talk about his feelings when he, as a young actor, has to play in the same movie as the legend Sean Connery. He tried to tell himself that he could hold his own, but then Sean came to the set, in that white wig and beard, and he was just magnificent! Alex said that in every seen they had together he felt like he (Alex) become part of the furnitures ... 🙂
@karlsmith25703 ай бұрын
2:49 Fun Fact for you guys: That Navy officer telling Seaman Beaumont about Jones love of music is the COB(Chief Of the Boat). The actor who played the USS Dallas' COB is Larry Ferguson, who was one of the scriptwriters for this movie
@sergioaccioly52192 жыл бұрын
A minor historical detail: the soviet ambassador's hat was a reference to a real life ambassador who was a legend inside the soviet bureaucracy: Andrey Gromiko. These small details are what make all the difference.
@Warlock_UK2 жыл бұрын
Studio: "Hey Sean, can you do a Russian accent?" Sean: "Yesh."
@michaelccozens2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, but, I mean, in "Highlander" Connery played a character named "The Spaniard" with that accent. I think we've established that he probably can't do accents and we don't care.
@gregall21782 жыл бұрын
@@michaelccozens Didn't you recognize his Spanish accent in this movie? hint: It's the same as his Russian one... :-D
@Warlock_UK2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelccozens true facts. The Egyptian with a Spanish name and Schcottish accent.
@iKvetch5582 жыл бұрын
"I said speak your mind Jack, but JESUS!" I definitely recommend reading the book...just so you can see how complicated the story was before they made it simpler for the film. LOL
@DJDoena2 жыл бұрын
@@johnabbottphotography They are fascinating yes. And while I understand that he's American, his heroes can become a bit tedious when the books reach double digits. The good guys are always righteous and compassionate and the baddies can't keep two tank tracks in parallel. And it's not just the military, in Red Rabbit Mrs Ryan was constantly comparing the British and American health care system, pointing out all the good stuff about the American system and ignoring all its flaws.
@kathyastrom13152 жыл бұрын
@@DJDoena IMO, his last good book was The Bear and the Dragon.
@DJDoena2 жыл бұрын
@@johnabbottphotography I wouldn't necessarily say "the right's" but yes your comparison to Sorkin fits
@DJDoena2 жыл бұрын
@@kathyastrom1315 But even with that one he basically stole from himself. The basic idea is the same as his non-Ryan book Red Storm Rising. Villain country gets into econimc crisis, decides to tough it out against another power, gets a few minor wins and then loses catastrophically because all the baddies' plans fail while our plucky heroes always have the luck on their side and of course always the bestest of tech evar.
@mohammedashian809412 күн бұрын
I personally think it was the exact opposite. it was the MOVIE that over complicated the story. I thought the book was easily understandable (even with the technical jargon😂)
@joshsteadman49182 жыл бұрын
"You've lost another Submarine....." has got to be one of the best movie lines ever
@cshubs2 жыл бұрын
You should consider the movie Das Boot-- the ultimate WWII submarine movie.
@carlossaraiva82132 жыл бұрын
It's the ultimate submarine movie, period.
@peterschmidt43482 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend "Das Boot"!
@RideAcrossTheRiver2 жыл бұрын
U-boat special cocktail!
@sedawk2 жыл бұрын
The novel was extremely popular in the 80's. I can still remember the full page ad in the newspaper (Edmonton Journal) that teased the movie. All it had was a silhouette of the sub and the phrase "The Hunt Begins March 1990". A really cool full page ad.
@lethaldose20002 жыл бұрын
Simone, you are wondering how Jack Ryan is getting his information. He's using educated analyst guesses based on personal knowledge of Russians tactics and how Admiral Ramius thinks because he traced his background and met him in person. The whole point of the Jack Ryan character is that he averts WWIII by using intelligence and intuition. That's how a COLD WAR turns into a REAL WAR. Since you can't talk to the enemy you have to understand your enemy to deal with them. Especially during the Cold War, where actions are based on the presumption of enemy tactics.
@thomasvlaskampiii68502 жыл бұрын
You guys were surprised by Putin's death. The book is far more graphic. "Ramius kicked Putin's feet out from under him just as he was stepping away from the table. Putin fell backwards while Ramius sprang to his feet and grasped the political officer's head in his strong fisherman's hands. The captain drove his neck downward to the sharp, metal-edged corner of the wardroom table. It struck the point. In the same instant Ramius pushed down on the mans chest. An unnecessary gesture -- with the sickening crackle of bones Ivan Putin's neck broke, his spine severed at the level of the second cervical vertebra, a perfect hangman's fracture. The political officer had no time to react. The nerves to his body below the neck were instantly cut off from the organs and muscles they controlled. Putin tried to shout, to say something, but his mouth flapped open and shut without a sound except for the exhalation of his last lungful of air. He tried to gulp air down like a landed fish, and this did not work. Then his eyes went up to Ramius, wide in shock -- there was no pain, no emotion but surprise. The captain laid him gently on the tile deck. Ramius saw the face flash with recognition, then darken. He reached down to take Putin's pulse. It was nearly two minutes before the heart stopped completely. When Ramius was sure that his political officer was dead, he took the teapot from the table and poured two cups worth on the deck, careful to drip some on the mans shoes. Next he lifted the body to the wardroom table and threw open the door."
@willcool7132 жыл бұрын
The "Dallas" was actually the USS Blueback, and its part in the movie was its last action on the sea. After the movie, it was sailed up the Columbia River and docked at the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry in Portland, Oregon, on the Willamette River. I've sat at the Conn and the radar station. Tight quarters all around.
@schmetterlingsjaeger2 жыл бұрын
30:18 "Be careful what you shoot at!" Such a good advice.
@DJDoena2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's become a meme recently.
@gryndyl2 жыл бұрын
If you're ever in the mode for another amazing submarine movie you should watch 'Das Boot'
@Paul_Waller2 жыл бұрын
Das Boooat (not boot) :)
@tosa25222 жыл бұрын
@@Paul_Waller As a German I can confirm Das Boot is correct.
@Squiffy4442 жыл бұрын
Americans usually say "DAAAAAAAAS boot" lol
@Paul_Waller2 жыл бұрын
@@tosa2522 I grew up in Germany :P
@toxuthat69882 жыл бұрын
As for other movies by John McTiernan, the only clear recommendation would be to continue with the Die Hard franchise. He didn’t direct Die Hard 2 (which is good, but essentially more of the same), but he returned to direct the third movie Die Hard - With a Vengeance. That sequel achieves the rare feat of mixing up the formula but in a good way.
@conflictmagazine2 жыл бұрын
Gotta add 13th Warrior to the list.
@jamesbooty2 жыл бұрын
@@conflictmagazine... and possibly The Thomas Crown Affair
@parallaxnick6372 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbooty Yep. Thomas Crown was the last good movie he made before he was arrested.
@trankzen1482 жыл бұрын
@@parallaxnick637 Also the story of how and why he was arrested in the aftermath of the Pelicano affair and the impact it had on Rollerball is very interesting.
@tonygriffin_2 жыл бұрын
I read this, Clancy's first book, way back in the 80's. It was so full of technical details on American, British and Soviet subs that the publishers, the Naval Technical Press, had to cut 100 pages. He wrote it in three months, using publicly available technical information and guides to the Soviet and US navies. But it was so accurate that Clancy remarked in a 1986 interview: "When I met Navy Secretary John Lehman last year, the first thing he asked me about the book was, 'Who the hell cleared it?'". The film sticks to the book quite accurately except for one scene that I've always wanted to see recreated. In the book, the British or US Navy want to show the Russians that they know exactly where their surface ships are and that they could destroy them easily. They do this by flying, at night, four jets over one of the Russian ships. Two planes fly east to west and two fly north to south. They come in low over the sea, very fast, so they don't get picked up on the ship-to-air missile defence system, and then rise up and cross over the ship all together, going N-S and E-W. As they do so, crossing each others' paths, they drop a line of flares each, which fall onto the ship as the jets disappear over the sea, forming a glowing rectangle that sinks slowly down over the ship, outlining it in a lit oblong. Damn shame they never used it in the film. Or even in any film!
@user-rk3yb6nd1n2 жыл бұрын
Air Force National Guard A-10s, I believe, lighting up (literally) the Kirov. I'm with you, that's an image I wished I could have seen on the big screen.
@jcaliberty82882 жыл бұрын
That sounds awesome
@Knight1211982 жыл бұрын
could this be considered Trolling by the Us navy?
@Acme19702 жыл бұрын
@@user-rk3yb6nd1n Yep that's the part of the book i most remember
@pablom-f87622 жыл бұрын
@@user-rk3yb6nd1n and one of the pilots wonders how bad those 30mm depleted uranium rounds would hurt a cruiser...
@danielmorency22422 жыл бұрын
I truly hope you'll visit the sequels... "Patriot Games" and "Clear and Present Danger"... Such a good series.
@somthingbrutal2 жыл бұрын
if you want to see THE submarine movie Das Boot is a must, the TV series it is a cut down version of is actually better but comes in at around six hours
@NestorCaster2 жыл бұрын
Legitimately… I’m am reliving my childhood with all the movies both of you have been reacting on… seriously this has been awesome and the lineup, also awesome! Thank you for the experiences!
@johansmallberries98742 жыл бұрын
Really cool thing about the end, all 4 sub captains(2 USA, 2 USSR) showed 4 very different styles of tactics that fit the individual personalities at command.
@yungathart78012 жыл бұрын
Simone: "Don't open a window!" LMFAO
@mariaghiglieri782 жыл бұрын
While it is super heavy, I would love to hear your thoughts on the limited series, Chernobyl. It is amazingly crafted, and it is as close to true as it can be. They even have a podcast discussing the changes and why they did it.
@Danisachan2 жыл бұрын
Really an amazing series. Highly recommend too.
@markhamstra10832 жыл бұрын
Another “he plays a good villain” Stellan Skarsgård role - although he is not precisely a villain in Chernobyl. Incidentally, there are significant technical errors, exaggerations, untruths for dramatic effect, etc. in Chernobyl, which kind of undermines the series’ major theme of the value of truthfulness and the harm caused by lies.
@michaelccozens2 жыл бұрын
@@markhamstra1083 And you're not citing any evidence for that claim because... ?
@markhamstra10832 жыл бұрын
@@michaelccozens just search, the information is widely available from multiple sources. *errors In Chernobyl mini series* would be a good start.
@StefanBuscheZUKUL2 жыл бұрын
And now please "Das Boot" from Wolfgang Petersen, in german with english subtitles. I recommend the mini series or atleast the directors cut. And after that please "Land of mine" from Martin Zandvliet in original german/danish.
@Manu-Official2 жыл бұрын
K19 The Widowmaker
@AnimationMixtape2 жыл бұрын
we have to place bets to guess at what minute Simone says her first "Oh Sheet". LOL!
@peterbridges57812 жыл бұрын
Sean's accents are legendary. This Russian accent sounds just like his Spanish accent in Highlander.🤣🤣🤣
@Markus117d2 жыл бұрын
Yep, Somehow it never really seems to matter while watching him in a movie though 😂
@peterbridges57812 жыл бұрын
@@Rocket1377 lol yes true, he does refer to him as a Spanish Peacock though :), thats why I got that wrong :)
@slagator2 жыл бұрын
fun fact I'd like to share (i read this somewhere years ago) On Red October, they flip from Russian dialog to English after the word "Armageddon". It's phonetically the same word in both languages (a little different is pronunciation, and definitely spelling) but it's very interesting since the plot of the movie is the overall prevention of escalations to nuclear war between NATO and the Soviet Union.
@clydewest28532 жыл бұрын
13th Warrior is a underrated film and one of my personal favorites.
@NefariousKoel2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Another good McTiernan flick there.
@elzar7602 жыл бұрын
The Chief of the Boat who says “I ain’t never seen no phantom Russian Submarine”, was the screen writer for the movie. Or at least one of them.
@TheToscanaMan2 жыл бұрын
A favorite movie in my collection. You two did a great job of figuring it out along the way. Thank you Simone and George for reacting to this.
@bigdream_dreambig2 жыл бұрын
"Don't open a window! You're in a goddamned sub -- Oh, it's the phone." 🌊📞🤣
@erictaylor54622 жыл бұрын
There is a sort of fun "fan theory" that says "Ramius" was really a spy working for MI-6 who joined the Soviet Navy and worked his way up to become a Submarine Commander. He was known to MI-6 by his code name: Bond. James Bond.
@BogeyTheBear6 ай бұрын
The theory about Sean Connery's character in _The Rock_ being James Bond after he was disavowed by MI6 is much more solid.
@wisemantellsyousomething11342 жыл бұрын
I love it, when Simone recognizes Star Trek TNG actors. :D
@witchking84972 жыл бұрын
A small scene that always gives me a chill. Tupelev in the pursuing alpha hearing engineer advises 105% on reactor possible but not recommended, go to 105 on the reactor. That is a Soviet nuclear reactor...they had more than one 'issue' with their seaborne nuclear plants, hell they had more than one issue with nuclear plants period. Old Soviet joke, how can you tell a Northern Fleet sailor? They glow in the dark.
@FallenRingbearer2 жыл бұрын
Lol I've heard that one!
@MGower44652 жыл бұрын
I watched this in theater with my father, who served in the Navy on nuclear subs. He was a major Tom Clancy fan, too. Clancy is one of very few civilians allowed almost full access to an active duty sub. He was only blocked from the reactor room itself, which most Navy personnel are also not allowed to enter. He also spent time on a carrier, where the crew was kind enough to advise him of tiny details that make his novels do good, even to which flavors of "bug juice" were favored by the crew.
@sntxrrr2 жыл бұрын
"There was a lot of techno stuff" that's why they often call movies like this or Jurassic Park a techno thriller. It combines elements of hard science fiction (as with a high degree of [perceived] scientific accuracy) with other genres and is often portrait as very realistic.
@tmatthewnielsen2 жыл бұрын
Sam Neill wanted to go to Montana so he could start digging up dinosaurs.
@somthingbrutal2 жыл бұрын
the cook was trying to ignite the missile which while not detonating the warhead would have destroyed the sub
@ironfist19422 жыл бұрын
Followed by the direct sequels: Patriot Games (1992) Clear and Present Danger (1994) The character of Jack Ryan is also the main character of The Sum of All Fears (2002) which was a reboot, and Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit (2014), also a reboot.
@mrbard12 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that. Thanks.
@DJDoena2 жыл бұрын
Technically, Patriot Games is a prequel. But that's true for the novels as well, as PG was published after HfRO but takes place before.
@kurtl84252 жыл бұрын
The movie is inspired by a true event. A Russian pilot Victor Belenko defected in a MiG 25 in 1976 by flying to Japan, landing at a US base and surrendering his plane to the US. It was studied, tested, dismantled and sent back to the USSR in crates. I believe Victor is still alive and living in the US somewhere. Probably driving a recreational vehicle and raising rabbits.
@hkpew2 жыл бұрын
While that's a true story, I don't think this movie was in any way inspired by it.
@kurtl84252 жыл бұрын
@@hkpew I’ve seen interviews with Clancy where he says it was. But he maybe wrong…
@GK-yi4xv2 жыл бұрын
'Firefox', with Clint Eastwood, was about sneaking a pilot into the Soviet Union and stealing a super-advanced fighter jet by flying it out.
@GK-yi4xv2 жыл бұрын
In 1975, the Soviet frigate Storozhevoy was commandeered by a mutiny led by its political officer. It was hunted down by half the Soviet Baltic fleet and stopped just shy of Swedish waters. A Master's thesis on the incident was read by Tom Clancy and became the basis for his novel, loosely.
@CruelestChris2 жыл бұрын
Also shook the senior command of the JSDF to its core since the defecting MiG hadn't been challenged a single time while entering Japanese airspace.
@ericsharris509811 ай бұрын
Scott Glenn really had no idea going in how he was going to play the captain. He spent some time aboard a nuclear submarine, and he said he basically just acted like the Captain of that submarine. There were some things he wasn't allowed to see and/or some times he wasn't allowed to be outside his quarters, but mostly he was just allowed to be around, to watch and listen.
@dnllrnt2 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic submarine movie; Crimson Tide.
@k333rl2 жыл бұрын
interesting note. the sonar on a sub and surface ships, as well as with whales, if you are a diver when they ping or click at the right frequency, it can actually liquify your insides.
@thethesaxman232 жыл бұрын
Ironically…Sam Neil did later star in Jurassic Park where we find him as an archeologist … in Montana!
@jamesfalato43052 жыл бұрын
"The Hunt for Red October" was Tom Clancy's first novel... It showed publishers and film folk alike that he was "backable"...
@dougallen96892 жыл бұрын
Based on the strength of this movie I decided a couple of years ago to do a chronological read through of Clancy's Ryanverse novels. It's amazing how much more hard right his politics got. One of the later-written novels was set 3rd (or 4th) in the chronology, so there's a really abrupt shift back and forth between them. Cathy Ryan (who is established as a genius ophthalmologist) has taken a position at a prestigious hospital in London while Jack is stationed there. So she gets multiple segments throughout the book to rant against the NHS. "It must be nice to be paid by the hour instead of by the patient", or a bunch of seething when Clancy has the British surgery team nip off to the pub for a pint with lunch while the patient is still anesthetized.
@sealofapproval6372 жыл бұрын
A film and performance so good, an accent that shouldn't fit, works like a charm
@kathyastrom13152 жыл бұрын
In my mind, Connery’s Scottish accent is a parallel to Ramius’s Lithuanian accent, in that neither are the posher English/Russian accents.
@mikeanderson17222 жыл бұрын
To answer one of your questions, Ramius was the saboteur in the book. IIRC he drilled a small hole in a connection that would only leak when the system was fully heated up and be undetectable when the reactor was cooled back down again for inspection.
@stephaniethurmer53702 жыл бұрын
Don't open the window. I almost spit my drink out.
@ZippyFL1 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The guy who played Cobb (Chief of the Boat) is named Larry Ferguson. He also wrote the screenplay for this movie and several others, such as Highlander, Beverly Hills Cop 2, and Alien 3.
@Jay-ate-a-bug2 жыл бұрын
Another really amazing Submarine movie is U-571. The film stars Matthew McConaughey, Harvey Keitel, Bill Paxton, Jon Bon Jovi, Jake Weber and Matthew Settle. The plot is fictional and portrays a World War II German submarine boarded by American submariners to capture her Enigma cipher machine. Has the same feel as Red October did. It is Sofa King Good.
@Myrdden71Ай бұрын
Love Richard Armitage: "you've lose another submarine?"
@lawrenceschuman53542 жыл бұрын
This was Tom Clancy's first novel, and the first work of fiction to be published by the Naval Institute Press. I own a first edition hardback. The film leaves out one of my favorite parts. Tensions escalate between the American and Soviet navies in the Atlantic. A Soviet carrier fighter shoots an American F-14, the plane you see crashing on landing. To send a message four American A-10's, heavily armored tank killer jets, perform a mock attack on the Soviet battlecruiser Kirov. They drop missile defense flares instead of firing ordinance. But the Soviets understand they could have destroyed the Kirov if they wanted to.
@elserg802 жыл бұрын
The scene where Borodin and Ramius are talking in his cabin is GENIOUS..
@martinbraun12112 жыл бұрын
Please watch DAS BOOT from 1981!
@TwinStripe2 жыл бұрын
You guys commenting on the technical jargon was a blast from the past. In the early days of digital movies (prior to DVD), I used to work in a shop that sold computer games and VCDs (Compact Disc Digital Video). They had 'The Hunt for Red October' playing on a loop as a demonstration, and all of the other movies kept selling out so quickly, we couldn't replace it. The store manager joked that after three weeks, he could bore for his country on the subject of the 'Towed Sonar Array'...
@SweetLou05232 жыл бұрын
We got this movie on vhs shortly after it came out. My family thought it was OK but nothing special. Me? I was OBSESSED. I own it on every format it's been released on, and have seen it more than 2000 times. It's perfectly paced, perfect acted, perfectly filmed. I watch this movie all the time!
@DanielTaylorOCMD Жыл бұрын
Did you have the Phillip's CDI video CD version? It was horrible with tons of pixelation especially in the underwater shots. It was one of many regrets I had about owning that particular system!
@ahdvd2 жыл бұрын
The 13th Warrior. It’s a film that was panned when it was released, but it’s become a cult favourite. It’s based on a Michael Chrighton (jurassic park) novel - the eaters of the dead - and mctiernan and chrichton had a huge falling out in the making of it, but chrichton had final cut, so he re-cut the movie in the end.
@FeaturingRob2 жыл бұрын
This was the first 'Jack Ryan' novel by Tom Clancy. It established Clancy as an author because the book found its way into the hands of President Ronald Reagan, who loved it. In fact, some of Clancy's novels are required reading for American armed forces War College. This is the only time Alec Baldwin played Ryan, The next two Ryan films have Harrison Ford as Ryan in 'Patriot Games' with Sean Bean, and 'Clear and Present Danger' with Willem Dafoe. Ben Affleck played Ryan in 'The Sum of All Fears', which ended the Ryan films based on Clancy novels although there were many more books featuring him. Chris Pine played Ryan in 'Jack Ryan: Shadow Recruit' directed by and co-starring Kenneth Branagh, with Kevin Costner. Now, Ryan is played by John Krasinski in the Amazon series 'Jack Ryan', which is based on the books, but loosely. The technical babble that is a part of the film is really a part of the Clancy novels...which is why Clancy was always called "The Father of the Techno-Thriller". One of my favorite John McTiernan films is 'The Thomas Crown Affair' starring Pierce Brosnan, Renee Russo, and Denis Leary...I highly suggest that one. It is a remake of an old Steve McQueen/Faye Dunaway movie (which is also good). It is not so much an action film, more of a character thriller...cat and mouse...where you are not really secure in who is the cat and who is the mouse.
@3Rayfire2 жыл бұрын
And it makes me sad, maybe because of my adoration of this film, but Baldwin was always *my* Jack Ryan. He played it very naturally.
@garethstanden37322 жыл бұрын
Did you ever read his Red Strom Rising'? a non-Ryan one off. Fro me, a chilling telling of a ground war in Europe in the 80s. felt much more epic than any of the Ryan ones, of which i'm a huge fan too.
@GonkThePowerDroid2 жыл бұрын
Tom Clancy writing. John McTiernan directing. True masterclass. Doesn't get much more epic than that.
@rrmemphis4272 жыл бұрын
Don't open a window. It's a godda....oh it's a phone. That was the funniest thing I've heard in a long time.😜
@steveallen89872 жыл бұрын
I love your attempts to discern the plot from the title, hilarious. And yet whilst watching the movies you are quite adept at picking up hidden plot points. Steve
@GrouchyMarx2 жыл бұрын
@ 1:38 Simone. Live long and prosper, fellow Star Trek fan. 🖖😎 But hey, there's another good submarine movie you guys should do soon called "Crimson Tide" (1995) with Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman. And you being a Star Trek fan, definitely watch it. You'll see. ✌
@ericsharris509811 ай бұрын
Also, Tom Clancy had no special access to military information. He just read a lot of information that was publicly known, and made connections and logical inferences, and some informed guesses. So, except for not having any initial briefing on such matters, his task was much the same as those "cultural attaches" (spies) on the embassy staffs, who spend their days in libraries reading _Aviation Week and Space Technology_ and such, and going on visitor tours, learning and connecting. And he did while he had a day job selling insurance, or some such thing. Oh, and then he turned his learnings into a novel. Impressive. P.S. He could not find a major publisher to buy his book. It was initially published by The Naval Institute Press (I think that was the name). So, he had that in common with J.K. Rowling -- no big name publisher would buy her first Harry Potter book. I expect both The Naval Institute Press and Scholastic made out like bandits.
@MrHws5mp2 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty good adaption of the book, but the book is WAY more complex, including the final 'plot' to convince the Soviets that Red October really sank. The book's not strictly based on a true story (as far as we know...😉), but it was inspired by a real incident in which a Soviet surface warship attempted to defect to Sweden and ended up being chased across the Baltic by the rest of the fleet. IIRC that incident ended when the non-defecting crew overpowered the defectors and regained control of the ship. You may think that these kind of dangerous 'brinkmanship' games with submarines during the Cold War seem far-fetched, but believe me, some of the TRUE stories that have come out have been every bit as hair-raising.
@Torgonius2 жыл бұрын
The whole series of books spawned by Red October is a very entertaining read.