Fallout Episode 7 & 8 | Canadian First Time Watching | Movie Reaction | TV Review | Commentary

[@NickWalkerWilliamson]

imagine how terrified Hank must've been when Cooper asks him "You want another autograph young Henry?". it's like if you wronged Clint Eastwood, then 2 centuries later he comes out of the shadows still alive and more badass than you could possibly imagine.

[@jackmacgillicutty8045]

I read that last sentence in Alec Guiness' voice.

[@tylerrussell9926]

The ghoul has terrifying presence in the best ways possible

[@michaellarnach4161]

When hank met him first he was Rowdy Yates, now hes William Munny.

[@elizanovember7697]

Clint eastwood is a little bitch, I aint scared of that fascist cunt

[@Tensen01]

What's funny is the Elixir Chicken man SAID he had tonics to heal damages feet or even grow feet back in episode 2, but we all just assumed he was lying.

[@30noir]

You should generally disregard claims of chicken f*ckers.

[@Tijuanabill]

I believe his name is forever "Chicken Fucker", despite your valiant attempt at being non-profane.

[@janetd5121]

Ghoulification would not grow back things like fingers and feet either, but FEV would. There is a good chance the guy becomes a supermutant now.

[@fujiusami]

@@janetd5121 that's what i thought too

[@armchairgravy8224]

@@janetd5121 When Coop was buried Dom Pedro would cut off some bits and re-bury him.

[@JustAMagicDuck]

“If my dad found out I destroyed an entire community to save him that’d break his heart.” This line really does hit different after you’ve watched the whole series.

[@magpieMOB]

I definitely felt that. [SPOILERS] I think in the last moments before Lucy shoots him, when he's saying "you came all this way for me", she's weighing in her head whether that means "to save him" or "to find out why Moldaver took him" and the horror of the answers made 'saving him' an awful choice

[@RocketSurgn_]

And it really nails in the Doc’s line about wanting something different once she’s become what the real world (the truth) would make her.

[@oddish3022]

line hits different when you blow up megaton and your dad scolds you for it 💀

[@himarei]

"I was gonna put a grenade in the neck-hole and make the whole place blow up, but that's not how I was raised."

[@DaDunge]

@@RocketSurgn_ Well he knew who she was, so he also knew who her father was and thus he must have suspected she'd fine out the truth.

[@TheOctaviusLee]

"I'm sorry dogmeat, but you ain't him" is so heartbreaking because you can tell that 219 years later he's still mourning the loss of his dog Roosevelt. 😿

[@bradkirchhoff5703]

Roosevelt is going to be in the show I bet. Maybe his story, himself or a taxidermy bersion…

[@TheOctaviusLee]

@@bradkirchhoff5703 Honestly they need to do the Bionic Dog thing and Roosevelt would be the perfect candidate.

[@jeffreydrozek-fitzwater4649]

I would.

[@mtnd02.06]

@@TheOctaviusLee Like Rex in New Vegas? It's possible, unlikely but possible. Its about time Dogmeat had a friend who wasn't a human or mutant.

[@reheatedpizza7292]

@@mtnd02.06I really hope they have a Rex in season 2… maybe he’s there roaming around after the player got him a new brain in the NV game, looking for a new master😢

[@batmanvsjoker7725]

Lucy's last "Okey dokey" sounded like a person who lost all faith and hope in humanity. She went through the five stages of "Okey dokey."

[@ShutterSnapped]

I love how they set up the main three characters. Lucy: Has to lose some of her humanity to survive when coming to the wasteland. Ghoul: Might be finding his humanity that he lost through Lucy/trying to find his family. Maximus(Might be the most interesting for me): Has to decide what he values between the two. And now basically being appointed a major position, he has to really figure that out. Maximus is really very much the player character in the FO games, he just completed his faction quest but he's going to realize how much his decisions moving forward could effect other characters and the wasteland.

[@ninjatoriumnova2483]

@@ShutterSnapped Maximus is great. He's basically a sociopath because of the way he was raised, but, by the end of the season, he's slowly coming to understand that things he was taught were right might not be all that great at all. Also, it's hilarious how much he gets the shit beaten out of him.

[@protojager]

​I love that the recurring joke for Maximus was him constantly getting his nose busted, every single time he gets hit by someone it's in the nose​@@ninjatoriumnova2483

[@Heru_Iluvatar]

She lost faith in her dad, not humanity.

[@DrLipkin]

@@ShutterSnapped They all have aspects of being the player character. Lucy is the Vault Dweller, seeing the Wasteland for the first time, yet somehow immediately willing to do some pretty messed up things with little more than an "okey dokey." The Ghoul is the overleveled one-man-army, who does morally ambiguous or outright evil things just because they benefit him. And Maximus, like you said, is the one who is following the faction storyline. If you think about it, Lucy is the good karma run, Maximus is neutral, and The Ghoul is evil karma. Doesn't mean that they exclusively are those alignments, just that that's the way their actions balance out on the whole.

[@AberhamOnTwitch]

George's face at the sight of New Vegas is the face everyone who played New Vegas made.

[@scratchpenny]

It really is the best game in the Fallout universe, IMO.

[@funlovincop]

I've never played beyond 1&2 but I'm still excited!

[@billythekitty1656]

Fun fact)Code 101097 entered by the hank is a reference to October 10, 1997, the release date of the monumental first Fallout game

[@Carlos-Dangerous]

I remember watching the video of gameplay demo of the game. And yrs later buying the 2 pack cd rom of fallout 1 & 2 at Best Buy 🥹

[@graymorality]

The crazier part about destroying Shady Sands is that it WAS founded by vault dwellers

[@docavar5698]

Yeesh you’re right, that’s MESSED UP. It was one of their vaults that technically achieved re-civilization. Whether how Vault-tec saw it, it wasn’t THEIR vision of civilization, to cozy up and rebuild with surface dwellers.

[@elvisibra]

Just shows how everyone has factions. Hard not to have those 🤷

[@phillipdry3696]

WOW OMG

[@phillipdry3696]

That changes everything Again

[@pyrofan80]

They totally got me with the “sentenced to death…by banishment to the surface!” And two weeks of supplies. Perfectly done.

[@DevinEMILE]

Not only has the Ghoul been around for 200 years. He was also a solider before he was an actor. So he probably has more actual combat training and experience just from his human life then knights ever would.

[@Crusty_Old_Wastelander]

He was a marine and wore a T-45b in Anchorage Reclamation Campaign. After Alaska was reclaimed, USSA forces pushed into China, but I guess Cooper completed his tour and returned home. Because there is a lot of time between Alaska and bombs dropping...

[@Dylan_Platt]

And he talks about having been an "actual cowboy" before his military service. Dude has a variety of Wasteland-applicable skills, to say the least.

[@TheGoIsWin21]

Fun fact, there's a little joke hidden in the subtitles that a lot of people miss. Bud the brain is labeled as "Brain on a Roomba" 😂

[@MarcosElMalo2]

I sort of wish the character was named Brian. But then you couldn’t have Bud’s buds.

[@Persephone_Personified]

He should be floating. Then we could call him Air Bud. 😏😎

[@Tijuanabill]

@@MarcosElMalo2 But you could have Brians Brains, the intelligent managers.

[@billdoor3140]

​@@Persephone_Personifiedbeen a long time since I played new vagas but...wasn't there a floating brain area 51 DLC quest ?

[@lorddanielthesecond73]

​@@billdoor3140Big MT, the Old World Blues dlc

[@JustAMagicDuck]

The underrated twist in episode 7 is the chicken molesting snake oil salesman ACTUALLY DID have serums to heal and regrow feet back in Episode 2. That scientist could still be alive if that dude wasn’t so sketchy.

[@Nechay.]

I mean he is from Enclave bet he wouldn't like to be a mutant like ghoul or super mutant.

[@sterigma555]

I should have never trusted a doctor that smelled like that

[@streakermaximus]

I mean, you fuck chickens and people are going to be a bit sus.

[@chengkuoklee5734]

Now we want to know who is the mysterious stranger and the chicken fcuker.

[@heytoast7129]

Could Thaddeus eventually turn into Harold, or another being like Harold? Would be a neat nod to the games.

[@diamondem]

I've read a theory that Stephanie Harper is the model for the Nuka Cola girl, which totally makes sense, and it would be great casting.

[@miriamweller812]

Not forget, when they raelly plan to rise a new mankind, they either need a technological solution for that or need many women willing to be pregnant their whole life as long as they can. So overall it would make sense for these guys to have a whole freezer vault with 100s of young pretty models, of course all checked on being ideologically brainwashed to serve the cause. It's one of the most obvious problems of such scenarios that is mostly forgotten. Overall the chance of just some hundred to survive is abysmal anyway, so you should have more and do your absolute best to raise that number as fast as you can (when having enough room and resources for that, of course).

[@CxOrillion]

@@miriamweller812 It's the old Strangelove bit about the grim nature of repopulation. It doesn't take a lot of men to make a lot of babies.

[@mandalorian_guy]

​@@CxOrillion especially if you already have perfected cryogenics because that stabilizes the diverse semen requirements to restart the population.

[@cjmk5923]

Doesn't really work Bud froze Vault tec employees not Nuka Cola employees

[@CollideFan1]

Would make sense since Nuka Cola was in bed with Vault-Tec

[@gregghelmberger]

Maximus absolutely has high Luck and the Idiot Savant perk. He fails, he screws up, he makes one awful decision after another, and no matter how bad the result, he gets a ton of XP and good rewards.

[@MrRainierSalu]

Luck best SPECIAL stat NGL

[@RocketSurgn_]

The official stats Bethesda released for the main characters put his luck at only 5, and Int at 4... At first that seemed off (luck too low, int just a bit too high for such an absolute idiot at times though probably reasonable) but I might buy even the middle luck after some thought. It's very inconsistent for him.

[@gregghelmberger]

@@RocketSurgn_ That's really surprising. I *wish* my Idiot Savant build brought in as much unearned XP as he does.

[@RocketSurgn_]

He survived getting nuked as a kid, but also... Got nuked as a kid centuries after the war and ended up rescued by the military hoarder cult... His squire is the one that instigated bullying him but ends up being a reasonable (by wasteland standards) person at least aware he was forced into a cycle of passing on trauma. Keeps running into the wastelands cheeriest huge eyed hero complex (who likes him!) but also keeps getting beat up. Thinking a bit meta, he almost seems like a character with decent stats, PLAYED by someone that's.. kind of an ass and not that smart. Like the character is capable of understanding the situation, the right dialog choice is there, but big dummy upstairs picks wrong!

[@nosoulboy13]

Maximus is a little kid. think of his actions and you can see some of it is kid logic. his naivete... still thinks like a kid, still reacts like a kid. at least this season. Never really recovered from the bombing.

[@andrewrawlings5220]

As Cooper told Moldaver in the past: "Every villain thinks THEY are the hero".

[@VBane]

It wasn't just Mr House, all the people in that meeting from other companies were characters from New Vegas lore that you find out about at their respective companies' headquarters, and the Big MT guy figures heavily in the add-ons, you even find his corpse outside the casino he owned, Sierre Madre.

[@silverbladeTE]

But that's not the Sinclair of the Sierra Madre! His father perhaps? because the Sinclair in the DLC was a far more human person and his one huge mistake was doing whatever it took to save his love, Vera Keyes, and THAT is why he made a deal with the lunatic scientists of "Big MT". Otherwise everyone said he was a very decent person and that's why Dean Domino hated him

[@VBane]

@@silverbladeTE All I know is that's who the character is credited as, maybe it is a father-son thing.

[@silverbladeTE]

@@VBane Could be :) Dead Money is my DLC of any game, it's soooooo deep, eerie and tough :) Such shame Rene Auberjonois died, he was perfect for Mr House!

[@kentinson1670]

It's implied that this is the same Frederick Sinclair since House calls him "Freddie boy" Sinclair's Charisma must've been a 10 if Vera fell for him

[@tylerrussell9926]

​@@kentinson1670 she didn't love him but she did care for him.

[@calebtoles3819]

I love the incredible detail of this show! Like how the reason the ghoul struggled with Maximus in the beginning yet destroyed the knights at the end was explained in a throwaway line in episode two. Maximus mentions the armor having the tempered lining, it was hardened on that suit so the ghoul couldn’t just pierce it in one shot. So none of the show was just haphazardly thrown about

[@Trepanation21]

wait wuuuuut 🤯

[@davidhytha9828]

I would say munition type played bigger role.

[@ZeallustImmortal]

Moldaver's company was the company that invented the cold fusion power and the cryo pods that vault-tec bought. She had access to that kind of tech with or without VT's say.

[@elizanovember7697]

The point of the last episode is they quite literally did not have access to that tech without vault tec's code.

[@ZeallustImmortal]

@@elizanovember7697 For the cold fusion tech specifically yes, but if you look at every cryopod they have a different companies logo and name on them.

[@zombiepicnic9683]

As it turns out, the secret to a successful video game adaptation was just to craft a good story whilst capturing the spirit of what people loved about the games. I guess it took putting people in charge who actually understand and respect gaming to figure that out. Granted that same exact thing happened with comics a decade ago, but better late than never. It gives me a lot of hope for the Bioshock and Horizon shows.

[@ZeallustImmortal]

"No dogs in the vaults" makes perfect sense resource wise, but dogs and humans are so deeply entwined that it would definitely be a big deal. We use them for hunting, for friends, for scavenging, for finding our way home, for guarding us from wild animals, for guarding us from wild people etc etc etc. Theyd be very useful for rebuilding the world. Also i like dogs.

[@xen0bia]

Yeah, they might not be resource efficient, but they've often proven to do wonders for mental health and to be capable for other purposes (cats could hunt vermin too) - and I feel like we'd want to preserve some species that are human-friendly versus all the man-killers on the surface. Also I like dogs, and cats.

[@johnyshadow]

Point proven by the Enclave, of all people. They were training those dogs for a reason.

[@bradkirchhoff5703]

Not enough ppl are noticing thats Erik Estrada playing the dad of the kid Cooper shot and that saddens me lol…

[@silentjay01]

Yeah, still waiting for Erik to get his career revival role like Travolta or Mickey Rourke did.

[@nathanturner963]

Idk I’m really hoping we see Erik dawn that suit again in the second season.

[@OrionJchess]

Not only is it Erik Estrada, but he's playing a former NCR Ranger. Essentially a California (Highway) Patrolman. CHiPS!

[@Trepanation21]

Lol yeah my friend pointed that out when we were party watching, she was like "Wait is that Erik Estrada?!" blew my mind hahaha Makes sense that ol' Ponch would have rocked with the NCR/Rangers and still be in California 😉

[@Ahzpayne]

Keep in mind average age of KZbin viewership. Closest most of these kids have ever come to CHIPS is Chris Pine and the algorithm didn't mention he's a nepobaby so they remain unaware. As they do of all things the algorithm has not mentioned.

[@samshootman6510]

Simone literally having a brain blast about Vault 31 right before it's revealed is peak

[@IMGOSCHLEEP]

@36:33 You laughed at "super managers" but look back at how Lucy was when first exiting the vault. the scene with her first encounter with the ghoul is indeed very super managery

[@RocketSurgn_]

Conflict resolution!

[@docavar5698]

“Conflict resolution 101”, oh my god Hank taught her that as he was taught by Bud 😑

[@scottconroy7949]

The "Oops, sorry!" from Maximus when Lucy tells him they're letting her go is so John Cleese in Holy Grail when he apologizes for attacking the wedding party.

[@agp11001]

The vocoder distortion turns every goofy moment into comedy gold. One of the most menacing voices in the Wasteland going "ooops" like a kid caught stealing sweets from the kitchen.

[@LexIcoN-ot9sd]

Anybody else think the ghoul scene at the rangers home is a massive nod to Sergio Leone’s spaghetti westerns?

[@81OH4Z4RD]

Angel Eyes

[@rikmoran3963]

I didn't realise when I first watched this, but the father of the son who gets shot by the ghoul, is Erik Estrada who used to be in the CHiPs (Californian Highway Patrol) TV show back in the late 70s and early 80s.

[@1980EW]

Simone coming in with the amazing perception check. Never fails to amaze me how good George and Simone are at sussing out the stuff they are watching. Loved the series and the reactions!

[@CxOrillion]

I started having suspicions about Hank/Henry after the first call, but as soon as they mentioned his name a second time I was locked in lol The de-aging was a little rough but the reveal was great, especially realizing that the woman that brought him in was Betty.

[@OptifiedPixels]

I heard a really cool theory that the leader of the brotherhood in this show was the one who saved maximus as a child, I think that makes more sense on why he's more understanding and lets him get away with stuff

[@Johnny_Socko]

Oh, I like that! It would explain some things. Also, I haven't seen it mentioned by anyone, but that actor (Michael Cristofer) also played a similar role in "Mr. Robot" as the CEO of E-Corp.

[@chengkuoklee5734]

My theory is the cleric, whether he's good or bad is debatable but one thing for sure, he appreciates honesty and loyalty.

[@Anonymos185]

I actually felt a deep sense of rage upon hearing the big reveal. Can't remember the last time, I felt that emotion so clearly, just from watching a tv-show. Vault-Tec is unbeliavably twisted.

[@LordTerigan]

To be clear, the show does not state that Vault-Tech dropped the bombs. It merely states they were willing to if the peace negotiations didn't fall through.

[@shanenonwolfe4109]

Yeah it doesn't make sense for them to really do it, there's plenty of evidence the Chinese probably launched them first.

[@ThiVasss]

Yeah I think they had the intentions but not necessarily had to do it in the end themselves. One clue is that Coopers daughter was with him at the time of the nukes.

[@thepresident8252]

@@ThiVasss Plus, almost all the board members didn't last very long after the bombs fell. Sinclair ended up dying in the Sierra Madre, the Wes-Tek rep was killed by Roger Maxon, and House didn't receive the platinum chip in time.

[@sakurashogun]

@@thepresident8252 They were never meant to last. Those titans of industry where so used to using people, they never thought they would be used themselves. Vault-Tec just wanted their money to finish their own goal. The only one that saw through it was House, which is why he went his own way and weaponized vegas.

[@docavar5698]

35:40 oh my god I never realized Bud’s roomba legit can’t go straight, he has to inch side to side forward. One of it’s wheels is prolly broken after two centuries of operation 😅🤣🛞

[@Patriiiiick]

I love that Fred Armisen basically played one of his Portlandia characters.

[@RocketSurgn_]

I like to imagine he just wandered on set one day and started playing his record collection, so they went with it!

[@Jackex]

If Matthew Perry was still alive, you know he would have a one off character as well.

[@Trendkilla]

The fiddle music is playing on the minutemen radio station in Fallout 4.

[@Trendkilla]

@@xtremejay2000 I did the exact same!

[@docavar5698]

Huh and the mention that the Minutemen and NCR (well former) being the only morally good factions makes me think maybe the Minutemen aren’t too far away. Maybe at some point Coop & Lucy will come across Minutemen who vows vengeance for the fall of NCR and will aid them in the hopes of taking down Vault-tec once and for all 🤔

[@Patriot009]

A hint that "Hawthorne Medical Laboratories" was a front for Vault-Tec was the symbol painted in the parking lot outside the front entrance, which was almost identical to the Vault-Tec logo.

[@mrm7058]

Actually we still can't be sure whether Vault-Tec launched the nukes first. We only know they are willing to do so. However, if they started it, why was Barb's daughter Jenny on a birthday party and not in a Vault?

[@chriswhinery925]

And why did Mr. House fail to be prepared in time and why did Sinclair and the West-Tek guy not make it into the vaults... The evidence points towards Vault Tek being willing to do it but not having to because the peace negotiations did in fact fall through. Maybe with help from Vault Tek. Maybe not.

[@noirangel6416]

Who wouldve thought the guy who played the og Muad'dib was the bad guy. 😅

[@JohnnyMJiron]

The actor who plays Thaddeus been posting on tiktok for a bit. Dude is just playing himself. Rolled into my feed just walking around his neighborhood smelling flowers

[@cpoller]

I think he was in superstore. He was hilarious in that as well. His doofiness is amped up in that show

[@Drexel71]

Took me a couple of rewatches to realise but the scene in Ep1 when they're riding the horse into the explosions has the same observatory just in front of them. Almost the same angle as well.

[@RocketSurgn_]

That observatory shows up so much in LA area games, which shouldn't be surprising as a recognizable landmark with such a great of the city.

[@ShootAUT]

I just love Michael Cristofer as the Elder of the Brotherhood. His delivery adds a lot of weight and seriousness to every scene he is in. He made Phillip Price one of my favorite characters in Mr. Robot.

[@RocketSurgn_]

Cinematic Universe? Maybe Price survived the series, got frozen, and after being so sick of techie types ruining his plans came out a perfect fit for the BOS?

[@DaDunge]

I relaly hated how the brotherhood was potrayed in this series. I really hope we learn next season that he's just some weird offshoot. He sounds more like Caesar than Roger Maxon.

[@mandalore1089]

​@@DaDunge Most every Brotherhood faction is different, even if they start the same.

[@DaDunge]

@@mandalore1089 Except they are not separate the side of the airship we see says Prydwyn.

[@deathninja16]

"they dont bring airships, unless its a full scale invasion." always pops up in my mind.

[@deadbeat6232]

Episode 7 was, by far, the funniest of the season. They did such a great job planning the whole season.

[@CxOrillion]

Yep, gotta have that palate cleanser before the heavy stuff starts. Episodes 5 and 8 were really spectacular. Watching Norm start to piece things together was fantastic.

[@munkeypantsman]

Bud's little one-seater car is real, it's a Messerschmitt KR200 built in 1955

[@likecrazyhorse]

And on the second watch it's a really funny foreshadowing of his existence as a Robo-Brain

[@whowantsabighug]

I liked how they showed Thaddeus as actually practically capable but terrible socially 23:39

[@mulkytool]

The culty thing wasn't something the vault itself was about. It's just that the vault was so accepting of peoples customs that they let them have that.

[@LudusAurea]

It’s funny George instantly identified House. That was literally my reaction too OOH MR HOUSE. I’m not even a big NV fan but did they ever do a phenomenal job with literally all of the costume and makeup and props etc. I’ve genuinely never been excited for a show until invincible and fallout and waiting is gonna suck.

[@bighuge1060]

I knew there was a series of Fallout games and that they had a sense of humor but this series entirely surprised me with its brilliant writing, acting and directing.

[@bighuge1060]

I truly hope the creators of this series try their hand at Interstate '76 and Bioshock/Bioshock Infinity.

[@silverbladeTE]

The games are a LOT deeper and smarter than folk think ;) They are fully of zany and dark sarcastic humour...but there's a lot of really clever and tragic or terrifying commentary etc hdden throughout the games on terminals, notes, vignettes of dead people etc

[@bighuge1060]

@@silverbladeTE The animated tutorial shorts from the games are gloriously funny and gory.

[@silverbladeTE]

@@bighuge1060 Interstate 76 a hugely under appreciated classic with AMAZING music! ;)

[@silverbladeTE]

@@bighuge1060 Yeah there's so much dark snarky humour etc , lol even fake TV adverts they made for Vault-Tec, lol Dunno if you've seen the intros for each game, but they are great

[@cbobwhite5768]

101097 Was the launch date for the first Fallout game.

[@rev.gregrock3963]

Yes. And that's why they had vault 101 as such a big thing in the new games

[@user-cm7rl4fl3z]

Yes, it is Mr House. It says in the game that he was owner and CEO of Robco.

[@AgentofChaos315]

34:26 Imagine my surprise when I moved my mouse while watching this part and seeing her credited as "Young Betty"

[@RocketSurgn_]

Good catch! Saw some speculation Betty is either Cooper's wife or daughter but that seems to settle it.

[@Lord_of_Bones]

Cooper also calls her Betty.

[@Memoquin]

My wife and I both laughed out loud when ‘Only You’ started playing during that scene. It was the song for our first dance at our wedding 😂

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

The "two weeks of supplies!" hing just reminds me of someone winning the Grand Prize on Bullseye. She's just lucky it wasn't a speedboat really.

[@redhakiim789]

11:20 I'm not sure if the director did this scene on purpose but the way Max and Lucy interact poses with each other kinda like how we interact with NPC's in the games.

[@user-im2ex9zw6j]

i noticed at the end of every episode in the credits they show a reference, usually a location, that will be in the next episode cant wait for the next season

[@Fez135]

The Ghoul fan-firing his hand cannon in the dark will never not be cool.

[@sergioaccioly5219]

Worth mentioning that back in ep 03 (I think) Doctor Chicken was seen at the edges of the city hawking cures for feet diseases/ injuries. Also, I think it's implied that Cooper, upon finding out what Vault tec stood for went against them and lost. It must've cost him his career and money. I'm assuming that when the bombs went off he went to his wife's vault and begged her to be let in - or at least their daughter, and was left out. Also worth pointing out, doesn't the cold fusion reactor look a LOT like a Green Lantern Power Battery?

[@Tensen01]

But then he'd know where his family was.

[@sergioaccioly5219]

@@Tensen01 It would be a plot complication, sure, but not an impossible one. For example, he could go to her house, and find her moving ot the vault. Which would imply that she wasn't prepared for this strike. Maybe she tried to take them both in, and was overruled (which would explain why he asked for his family, rather than his daughter?)

[@sergioaccioly5219]

I should clarify one point. When I said that she tried to take both of them in, I meant that she 'd gone to meet them wherever the Future Ghoul was going, instead of him going to her vault.

[@hengineer]

Cooper was intimating that appearing in the commercial for Vault-Tec is what started to kill off his career in the house party.

[@FreyaofCerberus]

There is a theory that i read online that is fairly compelling regarding Moldavers raid on 33. She took a small group of her NCR irregular troops with her but hired a group of raiders for extra numbers. The raiders are the ones that went nuts, got left behind and imprisoned. Her troops conducted a strategic raid and captured Hank before leaving with her. You can even see it in their demeanor during the raid.

[@tylerrussell9926]

Makes sense use raiders as a diversion as they are expendable and use your limited man power to get exactly what you are there for.

[@tombates9122]

I still find it odd that she would risk Lucy and Norms lives when their mother clearly would not want them harmed. Lucy came very close to being killed. As much as I genuinely love the show, there are a few things which stretch credibility at the very least. It's certainly not perfect.

[@TheOctaviusLee]

Thaddius is DEFINITELY coming back in Season 2 as either a Ghoul or a Super Mutant, right? lol

[@shanenonwolfe4109]

A ghoul for sure. There's no way anyone has some FEV with them like that unless he went to whats left of Mariposa and somehow didn't die getting it

[@minister6736]

@@shanenonwolfe4109 there were strains of FEV across the country being worked on by West-Tek researchers, which we see in 76

[@jeambeam3173]

​@@minister6736fuck 76

[@christopherconard2831]

Well, Lucy did ask Maximus to bring a few people with power armor to take on the people who took her father. When the scientist in the vault started talking about genetic manipulation to create people who would be resistant to radiation and other issues in the wasteland my first thought was that they were breeding supermutants. I guess I have to wait for next season to see our big green buddies.

[@shanenonwolfe4109]

Don't think so, only FEV can make super mutants and it's unlikely they have any

[@shanenonwolfe4109]

And remember the only reason there's super mutants on the west coast was because of the master.

[@jeambeam3173]

​@@shanenonwolfe4109more so that the Master had Mariposa. There can be other sources of FEV

[@billythekitty1656]

Vault 4 is a typical Canadian stereotype in a TV show. They giving it away generously to strangers and even hostile peoples.

[@PinkTuskedMammoth]

if you have subtitles on, there is one point where the subtitles name the mini robobrain [brain on a roomba]. When I saw that I started laughing so hard I had to rewind to catch what happened next

[@2nd3rd1st]

39:43 Oh you haven't seen him in Agents of SHIELD then, he's quite the crazy dad there too. That's a show you should watch, maybe privately if it's too old for the channel, great dramatic show.

[@ragtimeraver]

I love Kyle MacLachlan's character in that show. CineBinge reactions to AoS would be the best day ever.

[@chriswhinery925]

He was phenomenal in that show. So much great acting in that one, tragic that it's so overlooked.

[@nugget3687]

I absolutely LOVED the twist they the culty vault 4 was not evil at all, they are very nice people just a bit weird

[@TangerraCillaro]

I do enjoy the fact that Butt Asskins was one of the people that ended the world. Nothing more dangerous than corporate executives. Coincidentally hilarious since this is an Amazon production.

[@MarcosElMalo2]

I think Barb got promoted over him and that’s why he’s only a brain in a jar in charge of one vault (albeit an important vault). She’s the one that closed the deal with the other corporations. They weren’t buying his sales pitch.

[@BeardPower666]

I'm pretty sure Vault-Tec didn't actually drop the first bomb, even though they may have planned to, no way she would have allowed her daughter to be on the surface when that happened.

[@rob.3143]

It could be a more symbolic statement; we'll ensure that the bomb falls by using the wealth, power and influence we wield as a major corporation. They're the cattle ranchers running the town. Plus, it was a business meeting so she had to give a punchy line to show how far VT would go and convince the other corps to join in with them.

[@nugget3687]

Yeah the daughter not being in a vault when it happened is a dead giveaway that things did not go as planned for vault tech

[@lalalalisa41]

Definitely showed they were willing to do it but yeah, I don't think Vault Tec dropped the first bomb.

[@greywarden5513]

38:35 He came back because he was doing what he’s been doing since EP2, protecting Lucy. 1st through giving her enough time to escape, then through leveraging his knowledge to bring the night of the BOS down on Moldaver.

[@Chyort2]

In the first episode when they asked why the ghoul was doing parties, they mention Alimony at that point they were already divorced I'm not sure how he got the daughter to the mom but his daughter is who he is looking for I think.

[@drew.168]

It's also easily missed they call him a pinko, so he either has it out with his wife or they find out about his spying on her and he gets tagged with the red scare as is alluded to in other flash backs about other writers actors etc getting black balled for being commies.

[@cirederfsamot2730]

yeah, I feel most reactors missed the alimony thing, they are separated, which is why HE is not in a Vault. Now, what happened to his daughter after those first blasts is one of the questions the confirmed season 2 should answer.

[@LudusAurea]

Yes I believe there’s maybe a few months time skip. Between the board room scene and the very first scene.

[@johnirving5949]

​@@LudusAureaEasily a few months at least, they're discussing the Vault setups in the meeting, the Vaults aren't even ready yet.

[@hengineer]

or it could be alimony is more implied, they don't say it yet. it hasn't been explicitly stated yet that they are divorced. Although considering what he's findout out about his wife, I can see that eventually causing divorce.

[@thejesseayy]

On top of all that, we've still got the Vault 33 water chip to worry about

[@MrPicklerwoof]

With Vault 32 being seemingly fully operational and right next door, I'm assuming that resolves the problem. Probably an easy way to link the systems and share fresh water.

[@cangaroojack]

Just want to point out that while she said "we drop the bomb ourself" I still don't think that the first strike came frome Voult-Tech since when the bomb dropped Cooper (the ghoul) was at a random birthday party with his dauther, now by all accounts his wife, as corporate evil as she was, genuinely loved and cared for her daughter, and with her higher position would 100% be already in the voult with her when the bomb fell, is she knew the timing! That said is still a possibility, and I actually really like that they left it blurry

[@drew.168]

I take it more as they will destabilize peace talks, bribe politicians etc, not necessarily a strike or false flag type of thing. Though who knows.

[@HerHollyness]

There’s a line Mr House says in New Vegas - something about how he was off in his ‘calculations’ about when the bombs would drop by about ten hours. My guess is the plan was for Vault-Tec to drop the bombs but some other third party (presumably China, as that’s who they were at war with) actually got there first and it wasn’t expected.

[@miriamweller812]

@@HerHollyness Could still be the same reason. Other side got spies, the found out that the attack on them was about to happen and in that case the only thing left is try to annihilate the enemy before they can fire their weapons.

[@rev.gregrock3963]

Fallout 4 has a character named PAM that actually makes this even more ambiguous as to who shot first. I do believe it was vault tec, just one bomb in both directions so the other country thought they had to retaliate

[@cangaroojack]

@@rev.gregrock3963 If i remember correctly, PAM says that logically china would have not launched the first bomb, but when asked to factor in "the human way of not thinking logically" i guess, PAM said that then china COULD have launched first, and then shut off

[@richardstierwalt2874]

"If the company you works for drops nukes... maybe you're the baddies" That is one hell of a quote, sir.

[@streakermaximus]

So today I realized Ella Purnell (Lucy) is the voice of Gwyn on Star Trek Prodigy

[@robertzoscak1615]

Next season they'll discover that the frozen middle managers in vault 31 were rejects from the Golgafrincham B ark.

[@Cifer77]

Dogmeat is more like a label than an actual name. Wastelanders don't have pets, dogs are just another meat source (there's a dogmeat vendor in Filly). We may call a random dog puppy, or buddy, or doggo, to them it's dogmeat. Kinda similar to how Geralt names every horse Roach.

[@amstrad00]

The name Dogmeat also harkens way back to one of the major inspirations for the original Fallout, the movie "A Boy and His Dog" in which the main character calls the titular dog Dogmeat in addition to the dog's actual name.

[@cirederfsamot2730]

@@amstrad00 and if I'm not wrong, in another episode (the episode with the party at Cooper's house I think), we very briefly see a poster for the movie "A boy and his dog" (or maybe "A man and his dog") in which Cooper stared, which makes him using that name even more interesting

[@Trepanation21]

@@cirederfsamot2730 Yeah it's "A Man and His Dog" poster in his house!

[@jones81381]

I said this in the first video you guys did on this series but I'll say it again. The Ghoul didn't save the dog after he stabbed it because he has a soft spot for dogs; he saved the dog because the dog could follow the scientist's scent. Even now, as he pulls the dog out of the machine, it's primarily so that the dog can follow the scent trail of the head.

[@tombates9122]

I agree, but I think the dog is growing on him. He still has the dog following him at the end of 8, despite not needing to find the head anymore to get to moldaver.

[@anonymsly]

Not sure anyone mentioned already, but remember way back in Ep1, it was opined that Coop/Ghoul was doing a birthday party because ‘alimony’. He and his wife divorced at some point I think. And he was branded a ‘Commie’.

[@RandomEnvironmentArtist]

The distant “Thank you” when they return the fusion core is amazing

[@jobanh7ify]

I like how the brotherhood elder talks the same way the character in the first two games does, even with the same camera angel in some shots

[@sabatian1138]

One of the warmest moments was when Lucy makes her move on Maximus and asks him to come live with her in her vault. She was essentially proposing to him. Good scene. 🙂

[@Crusty_Old_Wastelander]

I guess everybody missed on minor detail in episode 1. When Ghoul is attending the b-day party as cowboy, the two guys talking about him mention "alimony". So Barb actually divorced Cooper before bombs fell and he lost everything. That b-day was probably his one day a week with his daughter. And if Barb knew bombs would fall that day, she would not let her daughter go with Cooper. So I suspect Vault-Tek planned to drop nukes but they were caught off guard by another faction. Bombs dropped before they were ready...

[@ClichéGuevara-2814]

Q: How many Music Nerds does it take to change a light bulb? A: It's an obscure number, you wouldn't know it.

[@josefstalin9678]

I bet you can't even name 3 kinds of lightbulbs, poser

[@literalsarcasm1830]

I have a feeling Cooper hit his level cap at least a century ago. He's just completing side quests now.

[@rykerm4249]

I think Moldaver was either keeping Rose there to torment Hank for dropping the bomb on Shady Sands, and/or she was in love with her.

[@allisoncornell4378]

'Grabbed her friends hand" Yes, rumor has it historians will say they were "very good friends"

[@greywarden5513]

Two most important Men (not counting Norm😅) in Lucy’s life: Ep1 Hank McLean to Lucy: You are my world😈. Ep7 Maximus with Lucy: 🎶You are my world

[@billdoor3140]

Wow she nailed the vault 31 plot. 😂 well done.

[@e.x.watson9997]

6:12 that's the couple from Coop's introduction vid in the first couple of episodes.

[@morphman86]

One of my favourite things about this show is a behind the scenes bit, from way after the show was released. In an interview, one of the staff answered the nerds' most heated question: Why was Dogmeat female in the show? "Simple! We didn't want the audience to have to look at dog balls the entire season."

[@AlienDenzil85]

I was one of the ones who binged the show in the opening days after it launched. It's been so fun watching you both come up with theories while watching the season, knowing what was right and where you were a little off.

[@jeremiahbullfrog226]

I relate to Cooper Howard's grave concern about no dogs in the vaults. Nuclear apocalypse is pretty bad, but quite frankly, I don't really wanna live in a world without dogs.

[@DavetheGrue]

Remember back in episode 1, when they asked why Cooper Howard was working birthday parties: "Alimony."

[@pplla7821]

The beginning of episode 7, opening scene, remind me of “the good, the bad and the ugly” where angel eye first appears on the scene in that movie! Wander if they made it as a reference to that🤔

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

Fun fact: Betty couldn't return while Norm was hacking, because hacking pauses time xD I love the kitty moments, so cute

[@nickb2049]

I hope they film part of season 2 in Goodsprings, Nevada. The bar is pretty much exactly as it is in the game so it would be cool to see it in a live action show.

[@archwayportraits]

To steal a phrase from Jules (Samuel L. Jackson) in Pulp Fiction. "Check out the big brain on Simone!" Seriously, so far she's the first reactor I've seen that got it before the reveal! Bravo!

[@chillowatt456]

The squire was walking due to the pressure of the boot, once removed it git worse. I worked as an electrician for 2 years, had my right foot stabbed by a long nail. If I had removed my work boot I'd have never gotten it back on. My foot would have swollen. So him getting it on and off left me nauseous.

[@andrewzucker9201]

I loved the fiddle music. It's the music played on Radio Freedom in Fallout 4. I usually play a Minuteman, so I listen to that station frequently in order to hear about settlements needing help or responses to my artillery requests. There's only a few songs, so it gets very repetitive which is why the shows says that the dj plays it all day.

[@CxOrillion]

This week, like most weeks, is fiddle week!

[@pseudohacker]

Bro I don’t want to interrupt you but I think another settlement needs your help…

[@andrewzucker9201]

@@pseudohacker I'll be there in a minute, as advertised.

[@raydurz]

One of the theories I read said that Thaddeus was given the FEV. But instead of turning into a ghoul, he's turning into a super mutant. Another theory is that the BoS merged with Caesars Legion. I guess we'll find out. That is House, and the code was the day that Fallout I was released.

[@TangerraCillaro]

That’s what that green crap in the vial looked like to me. Plus they’re mostly wiped out by this point so most people wouldn’t know what the hell a super mutant is, makes sense they’d misidentify it as a ghoul.

[@jonathancunningham8739]

The legion would have been wiped out by the Brotherhood since the gion is anti tech.

[@Tensen01]

Might not even really be a Super Mutant. Afterall, Harold was mutated by the FEV but didn't turn into a Super Mutant. Centaurs, Deathclaws, and Wanamingos were FEV too.

[@RocketSurgn_]

I’m going with FEV until proven otherwise, partially because I just really want to see super mutant Thad, haha!

[@natalieburnham3300]

That's what I was thinking super mutant.

[@Persephone_Personified]

I love that Cooper gained a pup and a daughter in the end. Both newly adopted and will fill his empty lil ghoul heart to heal the pain of losing his dog and his daughter 219 years ago. Also, MANY of the locations were actual practical places that already exists in the real world. unreal! Season 2 BETTER be mostly Cooper, Dogmeat/CX404 and Lucy’s vengeance quest!!!!

[@TripleDsTV]

*gained a wife and a dog

[@egregastandindus1193]

I fully agree, though I would also very much appreciate seeing Maximus grapple with the supposed righteousness of the Brotherhood. But yeah, Cooper and Lucy have the more interesting set up.

[@Persephone_Personified]

@@TripleDsTVLucy is someone he would look at like a daughter. Why would you think Cooper looks at Lucy like a wife..? He also knows Lucy loves Maximus. . ?

[@TripleDsTV]

@@Persephone_Personified No sane man or ghoul can resist the temptation of Lucy's ass jerky

[@CollideFan1]

Even though the brief time they were together they learned some things. Now that they are traveling to New Vegas, she can learn more about surviving the wasteland and she can help him remember his humanity again.

[@batmanvsjoker7725]

"If my dad found out I sacrificed a whole community just to save him, it would break his heart." -Lucy McLean, episode 7

[@MarcosElMalo2]

Whatever else you want to say about Hank, he raised Lucy right.

[@miriamweller812]

Dad: "What? Only a community, not a city? You dissapoint me."

[@RocketSurgn_]

@@miriamweller812 Also not nearly thorough enough, didn't make it hotter than the sun. Getting "lacks enthusiasm" on her next quarterly review.

[@actor451]

That final "okey-dokey" was my favorite line in the show.

[@davidintel]

In the meeting the big guy had the words Big MT in front of him. Big Empty was from Old World Blues, a dlc for New Vegas.