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@alecwry
@alecwry 8 ай бұрын
It is great that After Effects is FINALLY incorporating a 3D workspace, but it is weird that it is being framed as the underdog against Blender which is a free open-source software. To me the real takeaway is how cool it is that a free software still beats the output of a huge corporation like Adobe.
@sceneobscene1384
@sceneobscene1384 8 ай бұрын
Not really because if you're doing 3D as a professional you're more on cinema 4D which is really optimized with the Adobe suite
@msb8111
@msb8111 8 ай бұрын
@@sceneobscene1384 More and more studios are moving entirely to blender.
@amadoubass3406
@amadoubass3406 8 ай бұрын
@@sceneobscene1384 a lot of professionals use blender and cinema 4d is mostly used in the motion design space and its better to use some other 3d software if you are strictly doing 3d
@cart6380
@cart6380 8 ай бұрын
after effects is not a 3d software though? Blender is completely designed for 3d and after effects isn't. And they are just starting on 3d while Blender is here for more than 29 years. While I dont think after effects will ever reach the level of Blender but both software are designed to do different things. You can do a lot of things in after effects that's impossible in Blender and vice versa.
@sceneobscene1384
@sceneobscene1384 8 ай бұрын
@@cart6380 I never said that after was good for 3D or that it was 3D software, I just said that when you're a professional like a motion designer you're going to use cinema 4D to do 3D that's optimized for the adobe suite because adobe and maxon have an agreement. So adobe doesn't really need to beef up after for 3D since cinema 4D is way ahead of blender 👀
@gdrgdrgdgrd
@gdrgdrgdgrd 8 ай бұрын
For really really really simple 3D, yeah this after effect beta looks cool. But Blender is head and shoulders worth more time and effort to learn if you want to create 3D stuff. Plus Blender is FREE!!
@pceboo3120
@pceboo3120 8 ай бұрын
arrrrrrrrr are you ready to roam the seas with the rest of us pirate?
@monke3043
@monke3043 8 ай бұрын
@@pceboo3120 u didn't get the point....
@pceboo3120
@pceboo3120 8 ай бұрын
Maybe you didn't get it and you just think I didn't get it because you don't get what I said@@monke3043
@thememesterr
@thememesterr 8 ай бұрын
lol@@pceboo3120
@aaronposey7003
@aaronposey7003 6 ай бұрын
sorry nuke had this in 2005. Flame had it way before. Adobe thinks you're st$pid. you probably are
@GcVlogsAr
@GcVlogsAr 7 ай бұрын
Does that mean that I can use 3D environment file and use it as a replacement to my green screen background all inside after effects alone?
@champovilla
@champovilla 6 ай бұрын
good luck with that... people making believing that one soft can do everything are naive or lyers ... AE doesn't even have a proper 3d space interface
@aaronposey7003
@aaronposey7003 6 ай бұрын
... you are aware every other compositor had this 20 years ago once shake died? there was a wave of 3D compositors. This is like Fusion via 2012 quality level
@nithinsuku
@nithinsuku 8 ай бұрын
After Effects should focus on rewriting their code from scratch so us consumers can run it without buying 64gb of RAM
@PremierPrep
@PremierPrep 8 ай бұрын
Blender definitely looks better. But also, this is not going to replace a dedicated 3D application right now with full scenes and environments. Sure, a little animation like this, AE does well now, but animating characters and such, this seems too limited.
@romaintruchard2939
@romaintruchard2939 8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@sininails
@sininails 8 ай бұрын
I'm not sure why it took them so long to introduce this feature... I've been using 3D models in After Effects since 2014 utilizing Andrew Kramer's (Videocopilot) Element 3D Plugin. I'll certainly give this new 3D feature a go!
@lifent
@lifent 8 ай бұрын
As a videographer and motion designer i love your works too much! Keep on budy
@carlanthonydelosangeles7411
@carlanthonydelosangeles7411 8 ай бұрын
Love you guys. More power. ❤ Busy with work recently and I am glad that I can have time again with your videos.
@JonFlores275
@JonFlores275 8 ай бұрын
Ive been wanting to dive into 3D design, but having to learn even more software seems daunting. The fact that AE can be a stepping stone for people like me who want to get the basics down before going full 3D is exciting. Thank you for making this video!
@amadoubass3406
@amadoubass3406 8 ай бұрын
yeh but ur not getting that because the basics of 3d start with modeling and texturing, which u cant do in after effects, its like learning animation in photshop u can but ur mising out on a lot
@mueeduljahan9795
@mueeduljahan9795 7 ай бұрын
Don't waste your time in After Effects if you are interested in 3D Design. Start with MAYA or Blender instead. This video is just a marketing strategy to sell Cinecoms After Effects template and Bundle.
@TheMegaMinx
@TheMegaMinx 8 ай бұрын
Really cool that After Effect is finally adding the 3D stuff and it depends, how far Adobe is going to go with it. For now I think Blender is better since it is really good and free, but you know, well so what Adobe does🙂
@melissal7984
@melissal7984 8 ай бұрын
Loved this video! Wow! I'm so happy with the progression of After Effects in the 3d world...I love Blender BUT After effects + 3d is very exciting!
@NikolaTomic
@NikolaTomic 7 ай бұрын
Amazing! I would not even try to import .obj but now I'll have to try it! :) Question: could "Strawberry" object be any better in AE? Light-source seems to be missing but overall it is more than fantastic to have 3D in AE! 👍👍👍
@AceAnimations
@AceAnimations 8 ай бұрын
Nothing can beat blender man, especially costs + it'll take some or many years for after effects to become a replacement of blender
@Romssav
@Romssav 8 ай бұрын
Great video ! I think this update is meant to incorporate AE into the Substance workflow, thus you start your modelisation in substance modeler than you'd texture it in substance painter, maybe render it in substance stager and finally composite it into After effect. Looking forward to see the advances, it's great to see adobe finally investing into 3D deeply.
@robertdouble559
@robertdouble559 8 ай бұрын
That sounds about right to me. I guess they'll eventually move one of the rendering engines from either stager or substance over to AE. That would the bare minimum. It would be great if they rekindled their relationship with Chaos Group and used some kind of implantation of Chaos V-Ray or Chaos Vantage into AE directly.
@sublatio
@sublatio 8 ай бұрын
@@robertdouble559 yes, or to continue the relationship with maxon and implement redshift, since they already have at least some kind of integration with c4d at this time. at least we can dream!
@Dstick1Spearfishing
@Dstick1Spearfishing 8 ай бұрын
It's on its way, but Blender is still out front! Stay safe, have fun! 👌😲
@mike309saa
@mike309saa 8 ай бұрын
I use both programs and AE will never replace what Blender can do. AE has had 3D in the past and there are pluggings such as Video Copilot Element 3D but the only things possible are placing objects into a scene and then doing basic animations with them. You can't rig anything up so your animation options are limited. Also even if they do add a rigging feature, you still won't ever be able to model your own 3D models like you can do in Blender. By that point, they might as well make new software that replaces AE rather than try to integrate 3D modeling into it.
@tufab3494
@tufab3494 8 ай бұрын
I think Adobe's already developing their own 3D program to compete with Cinema 4D and Blender
@johnbica
@johnbica 8 ай бұрын
​@@tufab3494 Serious? On what basis do you say this?
@mambaman2007
@mambaman2007 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree, well said.
@tufab3494
@tufab3494 8 ай бұрын
@@johnbica little things I read here and there in the last couple years. If I'm not mistaken they've just posted and article in the website about 3D and there were a couple hints suggesting that they might look more to this area in the near future.
@johnbica
@johnbica 8 ай бұрын
@@tufab3494 God hear you. Adobe is already behind the curve to create 3D software that integrates with the other creative cloud apps.
@TheVRtist
@TheVRtist 8 ай бұрын
Amazing stuff!! Will these new features make Element 3D unnecessary for adding 3D models and can you still do a VR output with them? Truly some amazing stuff though, I've been fighting the urge to change my workflow to using blender, this news makes me happy I stayed the course!
@brthrm1511
@brthrm1511 8 ай бұрын
As an hobbyst Blender user I think this feature is great to use as hybrid approach mixing video and 3d asset for musique result but as far as 3d productions goes Blender still wins and considering how quickly it's improving AR has quite a catch up to do, but if Adobe decide to focus this feature to seamlessly mix video and 3d in a single workflow there's no stopping them from making AE the absolute best software for vfx, but then again I'm not a professional so I may be totally wrong
@thijmencornelissen8722
@thijmencornelissen8722 8 ай бұрын
This update is awesome, but i don't think we'll be able to do physics sims in after effects any time soon, same goes for vertex animation and particle(hair) systems...
@clement4128
@clement4128 8 ай бұрын
De nieuwe update is duidelijk echt indrukwekkend. Goede video!
@remcee2
@remcee2 8 ай бұрын
Ja echt waar!
@michaelnielsen3462
@michaelnielsen3462 8 ай бұрын
Hmm, sticking with Element3D for now. How would you rate AE’s 3D vs E3D - now and for the future? Thanks☺️
@fabbrobbaf
@fabbrobbaf 8 ай бұрын
For simple animations it seems a viable tool (provided that you own an Adobe account, Blender is free)!! But I've always found a kick in the ass managing 3d scenes in AE
@JOMprodBeta
@JOMprodBeta 8 ай бұрын
wait so comparing this vid and the one you dropped 10 months ago...in both a 3d asset was acquired and then drag/dropped into the project...is the only difference/update the lighting technique?
@madisonwilliams7421
@madisonwilliams7421 4 ай бұрын
Great comparison! To create this, was the amount of time spent in AE similar to the amount you spent in Blender? Thanks!
@rcm9762
@rcm9762 8 ай бұрын
Nice work!
@wajahattaj
@wajahattaj 8 ай бұрын
Great Comparison, I watching you from a very long time and i learnt many things about after effects from your channel its been amazing and we are lucky Alhamdullillah to have such an amazing creators, Love from Pakistan
@sizosimelane
@sizosimelane 8 ай бұрын
I'll never get over the fact that Blender is free.... Never
@wagnerjunior9434
@wagnerjunior9434 8 ай бұрын
FINALLY! AMAZING!
@gaurisam
@gaurisam 8 ай бұрын
You'd be surprised to know how Blender is coming closer and closer to Cinema 4D with regards to their ability to make renders similar in quality. A basic 3D functionality in AE is no comparison to what Blender is capable of.
@prophetseven728
@prophetseven728 8 ай бұрын
Can they now make HD to 4k look good now? I have a ton of greatly shot video in 1080 and love to mix it with some of my new 4k-5k video.
@ImaginationSStudioss
@ImaginationSStudioss 8 ай бұрын
My question. Would you show some cool effects in the filmora program?
@BrokenBicyclesProductions
@BrokenBicyclesProductions 8 ай бұрын
Me who doesn't know After Effects or Blender: Yes, yes that is truly fascinating 🤔
@CinecomCrew
@CinecomCrew 8 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@andisinambela2002
@andisinambela2002 8 ай бұрын
Nice info!!
@tomo6716
@tomo6716 7 ай бұрын
After Effects 24.1 (official release) now supports 3D models natively. It was released today.
@artemsh6302
@artemsh6302 8 ай бұрын
It makes sense to compare Blender, UE, Houdini Karma, Redshift. Not all at once, but in groups of course... Perhaps also USD in Fusion... But AE is hopelessly behind.
@nikyabodigital
@nikyabodigital 8 ай бұрын
When does this go out to the main AE build
@hawkteflon
@hawkteflon 8 ай бұрын
The Blender render looks great, but the AE render isn't far off. Looking forward to finally having this in AE.
@d1namis
@d1namis 8 ай бұрын
Nah, AE looks really bad, it's a paid software, and blender is basically free. Adobe had 3 years with Adobe Dimension to do it right, but as i see renderer looks the same as Dimension. Also Blender usually have faster render time as well as cloud renderer. IMHO super overhyped feature.
@lxstkid
@lxstkid 8 ай бұрын
You are crazy if you think this looks good compared to blender hyper realism
@kaikaikikit
@kaikaikikit 8 ай бұрын
Blender looks much better. I use AE and Blender daily and i would rather do all my renders in Blender(not mentioning that i can model anything accordingly to match clients needs) AE still have a lot of homework to do before catching up...
@aaronposey7003
@aaronposey7003 6 ай бұрын
oh my eyes are rolling so hard . You have no idea about anything. Esp that we had 3D composting for over 20 years now. adobe hates you, likes the money of stupid people
@McEdam
@McEdam 8 ай бұрын
I agree this after effect update is amazing! Especially for me who hasn’t used Blender yet! But from your demo! I’m gonna say Blender is still the winner, atlessed from your test
@AliNaserGFX
@AliNaserGFX 8 ай бұрын
thanks, It's a Very nice video, but you didn't talk about the rendering time.
@vegardpedersen
@vegardpedersen 8 ай бұрын
Wow, it is crazy to see 3D in After Effects. I am always interested in getting into 3D. I have tried Blender and Unreal Engine, but I have never become good at it. Maybe if After Effects continues to make this 3D integrated into AE, I can finally create something. I still feel like Unreal Engine is the easiest way to do 3D scenes for beginners like myself. What are your thoughts about that? My fascination with 3D has been since the tutorial you did on how to make fake 3D text in Premiere Pro. I thought it was so cool and did it a lot. I even used it in projects at school and people were so amazed at how good the 3D looked. And now, finally, they are beginning to integrate real 3D into Adobe. I wonder if they can use some of the AI they use in Photoshop for After Effects in the future too :-)
@CinecomCrew
@CinecomCrew 8 ай бұрын
I believe this new feature is perfect for people who want to create basic 3D motion graphics/add elements into their work. Might also be perfect for beginners to get started with 3D in an easy way
@lgenic
@lgenic 8 ай бұрын
You can kinda do 3d in Illustrator and export OBJ. It’s limited though
@joywinfernandes
@joywinfernandes 8 ай бұрын
How to rig a car in after effects?
@Phastraq
@Phastraq 8 ай бұрын
We've had Element 3D and Cinema 4D in After Effects for years now. This isn't that mindblowing by itself but at least it's native now.
@wrillywonka1320
@wrillywonka1320 6 ай бұрын
What about gaussian splats? Is there anywhere to use them?
@aneeshwath4463
@aneeshwath4463 8 ай бұрын
This Looks Sick!!! No Doubt, Adobe Getting Ready For Bypassing The Competitors!
@santudas-zr5en
@santudas-zr5en 8 ай бұрын
Which graphics card under 10k to 20k is the most suitable for motion graphics in applications such as After Effects or Premiere Pro, specifically for Ryzen 5600G?
@december1147
@december1147 7 ай бұрын
NUKE and fusion both has a very good 3d workspace.
@cg.man_aka_kevin
@cg.man_aka_kevin 8 ай бұрын
What render engine does AE use for 3D rendering?
@CinecomCrew
@CinecomCrew 8 ай бұрын
For the latest features in the beta version you need to use Advanced 3D
@cg.man_aka_kevin
@cg.man_aka_kevin 8 ай бұрын
@@CinecomCrew 👌
@Poplikato
@Poplikato 7 ай бұрын
Element 3D plugin for AE did this like 10 years ago:D
@rajendrameena150
@rajendrameena150 8 ай бұрын
We dont use blender for any features but it is the community program that is created by artist for artist.
@subbassline1247
@subbassline1247 8 ай бұрын
Hi guys I follow years now and I really like your videos... I would love to see some davinci resolve tutorials and especially on fusion... please 🙏❤️?
@magicmaker3658
@magicmaker3658 8 ай бұрын
Hi sir i use the new rotobrush but its slow for me i dont now whay but i use cpu I7 4790k and take 1.50 scond betwin frame and other so the propgtion need cpu our gpu because i dont have gpu
@furynotes
@furynotes 8 ай бұрын
After effects should have a usd workflow. If adobe plans on taking over with after effects.
@romaintruchard2939
@romaintruchard2939 8 ай бұрын
Blender is light years ahead with usd and with 4.0 there’s updated support for a lot of usd features. Adobe is all over the place with AI and marketing rather than focusing on building really solid integrated production ready tools. Personally I’ve ditched Autodesk and Adobe probably for good
@CartoonChris1
@CartoonChris1 8 ай бұрын
I'm betting on Project Avalanche in UE5 myself. I switched during UE 4.26 for production and haven't looked back. Yay no more render farm and with some practice, images in 5.3 get you to 99% of what an Arnold Render can get you in a fraction of the time. Same goes with AE so I try to do most things in camera in UE5 for the fasted turn around possible.
@ak_fx
@ak_fx 8 ай бұрын
The reason blender and ae look so similar is the limited skill in blender lol. Sure of you just want a transparent backround and hdri lighting AE miiighht get you there. But, if you want literally anything more from a 3d scene AE is pants compared to a proper 3d program like blender. Great video ❤
@CinecomCrew
@CinecomCrew 8 ай бұрын
True! For this test we just wanted to test what they did in the promo. But like you mentioned, doing bigger more advanced stuff isnt something Ae can pull off.
@ak_fx
@ak_fx 8 ай бұрын
@@CinecomCrew definitely, still very impressed with what you guys were able to pull off with AE!
@rajendrameena150
@rajendrameena150 8 ай бұрын
Finally blender is influencing not just 3d industry but also 2d industry as well.
@riazulrahil
@riazulrahil 8 ай бұрын
After Effects is a motion graphics + compositing software. Blender is a full scale 3D creation suite. They are fundamentally different.
@yewsoonfatt
@yewsoonfatt 8 ай бұрын
this update is cool!
@ryanbennett2650
@ryanbennett2650 8 ай бұрын
Why can't I import 3D files into the new version of After Effects? I can't just drag and drop and they arent recognized by import.
@fusoedit
@fusoedit 8 ай бұрын
Insane!!
@monpham.motion
@monpham.motion 8 ай бұрын
what version of this
@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 8 ай бұрын
For Blender, did you use Eevee or Cycles?
@Footage30
@Footage30 8 ай бұрын
My respects!
@jbzavala8151
@jbzavala8151 8 ай бұрын
I am surprised Adobe hasn't bought out Cinema 4D yet. Ever since AE Included 4D Lite, I thought the buy out would happen soon.
@S.I.F.A.R
@S.I.F.A.R 8 ай бұрын
Cool just a little drawback is the software hunger for high spec of hardware
@domenicodesign100
@domenicodesign100 8 ай бұрын
Not even close to be able to dump any other 3D software just yet (missing this and that).
@bradybro1423
@bradybro1423 26 күн бұрын
This is how Adobe will have artists work for them without having to pay them while taking advantage of their creativity to train their machine learning tools and licensing your work to them.
@a.s.7235
@a.s.7235 8 ай бұрын
1:26 but .FBX is a very important one that they don’t have.
@CinecomCrew
@CinecomCrew 8 ай бұрын
Maybe in the future, they will add .fbx and other file formats 🤔
@artemus80j.4
@artemus80j.4 8 ай бұрын
I have been doing 3D work in AE for years with Element 3D and it has been almost over 8 years since the last update and this is still way behind what E3D can do. No thanks I don’t need this. Andrew Kramer please release version 3 once and for all!!!!!!
@shneor7428
@shneor7428 8 ай бұрын
you are the best
@djcarrotgaming
@djcarrotgaming 25 күн бұрын
I will only be excited when they actually make the UI at least readable.
@cvisual
@cvisual 8 ай бұрын
You're comparing pears with apples (a saying in my country). But I like that features of new AE to get an easy solution to some 3D work
@anujarora025
@anujarora025 8 ай бұрын
That's only available in after effects beta but you can also do it in normal after effects using element 3d🌝😂🗿
@KKAkuoku
@KKAkuoku 8 ай бұрын
An integrated 3D workflow is good. A one-time payment for CC is better.
@riccardofissore7996
@riccardofissore7996 7 ай бұрын
i'm on ae 24.02, trying to import a glb and it doesn't do anything
@hytralium
@hytralium 8 ай бұрын
Element 3D is shaking rn
@btgaming5015
@btgaming5015 7 ай бұрын
Hi is thus after effects 23? I need to know for my project can anyone help?
@johnbica
@johnbica 8 ай бұрын
Element 3D is meer as 10 jaar oud, baie verouderd en steeds die beste 3D-inprop vir After. Hoekom is dit dat Adobe, selfs na 20 jaar, nie 'n redelike 3D-module binne After Effects kan skep nie? Miskien omdat After Effects 'n ou programmeertaal het? Sou dit nie beter wees om 'n nuwe sagteware te skep wat gebruikersvriendelik is vir 3D-skepping en GPU-weergawe nie, en dit is 'n uitbreiding van After Effects?
@GraphicDesignNY
@GraphicDesignNY 8 ай бұрын
Not that I think AE is going to be the best, I am inclined to believe that one can achieve more realistic and dynamic looks when adjustments are made to the parameters. You mention that briefly but it would be nice to see a deep dive into that aspect of a scene. Just using defaults is not a fair comparison.
@kuris682
@kuris682 8 ай бұрын
this is so sick 🔥, Adobe's outplayed other's brand
@Ignash
@Ignash 8 ай бұрын
The skin on the lemon on After effects looked different because you needed to invert normals.
@A_Train
@A_Train 7 ай бұрын
After Effects supported 3D and even importing of 3D camera animation data for a few years now. You just can't compare a solid 3D package like Blender to something like After Effects.
@TheLorenzoZone
@TheLorenzoZone 8 ай бұрын
Blender will be used for modeling, AE for motion/animation. Only now you don't need to buy Element3D anymore.
@ZeroNineFilms
@ZeroNineFilms 8 ай бұрын
I see after effects 3d good for like music video effects I did a few not looking for a super realistic look I prefer blender for that
@indago1
@indago1 8 ай бұрын
Blender with its's EEVEE Next will wipe AE. There was plugin Element 3d that did all of this + shadows.. Adobe has to catch up to that level first and only after we can talk about challanging Blender
@ariaperdana24
@ariaperdana24 8 ай бұрын
Have you guys ever heard Nuke or Fusion???
@TheRegelation
@TheRegelation 7 ай бұрын
I still love you, Element3D
@nrozfilms2001
@nrozfilms2001 8 ай бұрын
OOH FINALLY WE AFTEREFFECTS GUYS HAVE SURVIVED ALOT
@pablobellini3320
@pablobellini3320 8 ай бұрын
20 years using AE and moved to fusion last year. No regrets. My life is better
@component8107
@component8107 8 ай бұрын
Zaxwerks 3d has been in AE since like 2001
@procrastinatingcartoonstm5130
@procrastinatingcartoonstm5130 8 ай бұрын
I will have so much fun using after effects, it's free right?
@clickfaithmultimedia
@clickfaithmultimedia 8 ай бұрын
This feature in After Effects has been implemented way better since ages ago through Element 3D. Still, this what they call huge-update is still jurassic for me and has been around already in Ae users via E3D. For a big company to do upgrade like this seems cheap at all, dunno where all the profit went.
@patfish3291
@patfish3291 8 ай бұрын
It's great to see that 3D is now coming slowly to AE. I gave Adobe already 12 years ago the feedback in the Forum that AE needs real/native 3D support to compete in compositing/VFX. Now we are getting 3D but 10 years too late :D. Comparing Blender and AE in terms of 3D is absolutely nonsense. AE only can do very, very, very basic 3D stuff (import some models Geo - that's it for now :D). So After Effects can now do around 2% of what is possible in Blender :D ...hope Adobe brings use very fast more 3D features that we can really work with it.
@ItsIntelligent
@ItsIntelligent 8 ай бұрын
Been doing this for a decade with element 3d lolz
@gulraizbhutta
@gulraizbhutta 8 ай бұрын
After effects is best software even with low system requirements you can create great projects
@MoreCreativeGFX
@MoreCreativeGFX 8 ай бұрын
Every tutorial you create is truly exceptional and packed with valuable information. I'm also dedicated to spreading creative knowledge through my channel. Thank you for sharing incredible content that educates and inspires people.
@arsenaldox8
@arsenaldox8 8 ай бұрын
i think 3D ELEMENT from video copilot is the one that more fit in this sittuation than blender.
@diegoalejandroricodiaz8331
@diegoalejandroricodiaz8331 8 ай бұрын
Can I use AE for free?
@shadow_dancer
@shadow_dancer Ай бұрын
Yeah it is nice addition for the after effects. But as both blender and after effects user i dont need this feature in ae, i will continue to do this stuff in blender. Not to mention that any kind of work with 3d stuff is much more easier (include user interface) AE is trying rly hard to catch up with something it never was created to begin with, and it does pretty good job in doing so, but hardly ppl who used to do this kind of stuff in blender will immediately jump in ae for it.
@lukayz1363
@lukayz1363 8 ай бұрын
Honestly not a bad result
@HesDeadJim
@HesDeadJim 8 ай бұрын
The strawberries make it for me
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