CinemaSins is Still Wrong About Everything

Spoilers for all the movies ever.
Any mistakes I made were satirizing, um, something. I can never be wrong accidentally.
CinemaSins channel: / cinemasins
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[@vespertine1149]

cinemasins is going to burst in on my grandmother's funeral and mock us for adhering to the 'being sad at a funeral' cliche

[@hamzapetridis206]

The worst of this comment is that I’ve read the quote part with his voice and speed without even thinking.

[@MyScorpion42]

This reminds of a tumblr post about the "death trope". As in, the trope of people dying in media.

[@christiansantamaria7233]

Exactly like that man points out the obvious and makes it sound like its something bad he’s mad werid foreal

[@CarsonRH]

It's a satire of a funeral.

[@IAmAnItalianPizza]

Unrelated but related: i'm having a Light wedding, well by that i mean when i have a funeral i want people to remember all the stuff i've done and wesr light to represent my soul passing on, not to make themselves sadder by having a depressing

[@julianbell9161]

CinemaSins isn’t satire. They aren’t satirizing anything. Rather, they are using satire as a defense for having bullshit sins and being flat out incorrect.

[@jertdw3646]

I don't see how this matters, they aren't hurting anyone. I still watch the some of the movies the cinema sins guy criticizes. This channel acts like cinema sins is some alt right grifter or something. Like chill lmao

[@easypeasypiano6118]

@Alexander Parkin The way I see it, they are not criticizing film criticism in their videos, but instead just making bad criticisms of the films themselves. What do you mean by "blind as to how to properly engage with meaningful art"? I still watch the some of the movies the cinema sins guy criticizes and I can always continue to enjoy and put to words their artistic value (for example, I really like the original Planet of the Apes and can appreciate it fully, while also enjoying a laugh at the way CinemaSins covers it because I don't take the channel itself as seriously as you or the creator of this video (29:08)). It's simply entertainment for people who aren't as sharp and observant (26:09) or knowledgeable (in various fields, such as aircraft engineering (39:11), golf (8:29), firearms (15:17), helicopter models (5:17) the effectiveness of bulletproof vests against different weapons (18:41) automobiles (34:24), animals (9:48), planetary designations in the Star Trek series (33:25), Lego bicycle design (38:56) etc.) as you or the creator of this video when they watch movies, and thus feel that the points made by the narrator are valid and find it funny to see them made in that specific style.

[@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat]

Not hurting anyone? That’s the bar?

[@Ryan-sn3uo]

@@jertdw3646 Ah yes, causing few thousands people to not watch a film becuse cinemasins gave them falsely misconstrued first impressions is apparently not hurting anyone you say. No livelihood has been affected, no creators were subjected to defamation using lies, no piece of artwork has been misrepresented for the sake of profiting one self. No one is hurt. Now pass me that copium you're smoking.

[@liro6]

@@Ryan-sn3uo If someone decides to not watch a film because of a cinema sins video, they're already pretty mindless.

[@terraformthesun2896]

I don’t understand their defense “it’s just satire”. Okay...what are you satirizing? Narcissistic first year film students who think they’re an authority in film criticism?

[@rouge5140]

That's pretty much what they are satiring. It being obvious is a pretty good thing wouldn't you think?

[@Arkain89]

@@rouge5140 well no. it's just a lazy excuse the common pleb can repeat over and over again without thinking about it, just like the "taken out of context". cinemasins is just grinding money by throwing shit at the wall, and they are far smugger than any "film student" could ever be. I cringe so powerfully when I'm reminded that Jeremy considers himself to be a "movie fan", despite doing such a disservice to movies for a living.

[@derekscanlan4641]

i sill think theyre funny

[@starvalkyrie]

@@Arkain89 So what's your take on Sony and Dreamworks 'respect' to the movie industry for the billions of dollars they make off of it.

[@Arkain89]

@@starvalkyrie How is that even related ? Whatever point you want to make about cinema as an industry, CinemaSins doesn't care about it and say nothing on that matter. Isn't one of their numerous, contradictory, half-assed defense lines "we're not critics" anyway ? Not to mention the kind of cinema they "review" most of the time is the "crowd entertaining type", which is the kind of movies Sony is known to make. Glad to see the only way to defend these morons is by switching subjects. First it's an "obvious satire of the film student type", now it's a poignant and thoughtful critic of unchallenging films ?

[@BriBriTheGuy]

I like that this really does show the hypocrisy of CinemaSins. Getting someone's name wrong, mislabeling an animal, forgetting events that were previously shown, etc. are all things that SHOULD be sinned in a movie, but CinemaSins is doing itself.

[@TsukishimaLia]

The syringe one is so wild to me. Has CinemaSins Jeremy never gotten an injection. Has he been getting air bubbles injected into his bloodstream. You don't need to be a doctor to know this, this is literally general knowledge

[@ionioakinioanette5729]

It's actually an urban legend and Shaun has fallen for it too. Having air injected into the bloodstream is not dangerous in the quantities it would be possible to do with a normal syringe, even injecting a whole syringe full of air into the bloodstream is not going to cause any kind of complications to an otherwise healthy person.

[@leilas5419]

@@ionioakinioanette5729 its not urban legend its good medical practice, there are fringe cases where it can have an effect as well as generally not getting accurate dosage because of the air bubble disrupting the actual space the meds take - flicking is old school but collecting the small air bubbles into a big one then expelling it is not. Hollywood exaggerates the amount expelled usually but it is something done to expell air.

[@BlueGangsta1958]

@Ion Ioakin Ioanette Sometimes there are preexisting conditions that are not known to the doctor, either because the patient is asymptomatic or because they don't recognise the problem as bad enough to go to the doctor. A patient could appear to be healthy and still have arteriosclerosis or a thrombus. A healthy person might not _die_ of an air embolism caused by a syringe but it is certainly not pleasant or healthy, which is why it is general medical practice to expel the air when drawing medicine into a syringe.

[@danopticon]

@Ion Ioakin Ioanette - Nooooooo! Seriously, before some kid with an insulin syringe - which are _readily_ available - injects a syringeful of air into their own bloodstream, NO!! That CAN be quite dangerous, and could directly or indirectly lead to aneurysm, infarction, and other debilitating or fatal outcomes. Yes, a bubble won’t hurt you, even quite a few won’t hurt you… but a full syringe of air: you’re into gambling territory. ☹️

[@_ikako_]

he certainly acts like he has had air injected into him

[@TurboNemesis]

Cinemasins is like that friend we all have that tries to find plotholes and inconsistencies in every movie or tv show episode they watch as it's happening only to look foolish when they get explained later.

[@ArchenOpteryx]

I'm pretty sure those friends are people who watch CinemaSins.

[@kropotkinnie]

I love finding issues in shows (as I try and use it to help me improve my own writing and notice my own flaws) and one of my largest rules for myself is to watch them all the way through, or at least till a point where I know my criticisms are valid. It's so important to watch an entire movie or show before slamming it... or praising it, in some cases. Cinemasins is like the antichrist of this. They stand for everything I despise in a critic. I love nitpicking stuff (again, helps me learn what to avoid) but there's a difference between nitpicking and literally making things up to serve your own distaste for something. Cinemasins disgusts me. A good example of a nitpicker who does it right is Ralphthemoviemaker, imo. He looks for all the little flaws, but he uses them to improve his own works and they're always valid. Cinemasins is such an insult to critiques. Thank fuck we have all these great producers to counter that bs.

[@AnnoyingAsianWitch]

I love being proven wrong when the movie explains the reason. CinemaSins prefer to go "NO THIS IS SATIRE".

[@raymondkertezc364]

I probably AM that friend

[@edg4rallanbro753]

Even if CinemaSins is satire and not supposed to be taken seriously despite all the evidence to the contrary, it still has the effect of making modern media criticism suck and incredibly surface level and hyper literal.

[@hakalakalaka0.963]

wait so you're telling me you guys DON'T show up to funerals in a purple and orange zoot suit? wild

[@_ikako_]

i usually wear a rainbow afro wig too.

[@aarontheperson6867]

come on guys change it up a little. all black? what is this, a.... whatever.

[@mst3kharris]

If it’s the Joker’s funeral, sure.

[@mippy5842]

@@_ikako_ if i'm feeling really upset, i'll add a red nose that honks as well

[@alexanderpurkis3508]

If a channel's entire schtick is based on being nitpicky and its nitpicking is intentionally obscuring the context or just generally sucks, the nitpicking deserves to be nitpicked... to shreds! *insert sinister laugh*

[@NB_Cowboy]

Alex Purkis or the nitpicking should be quality. Because that's my biggest take away from this video. Cinemasins is just lazy as shit. They act like they're just doing comedy nitpicking, but they're barely trying!

[@CometX-ing]

If you don't find the joke funny fine, then it's not for you. I find Cinema Sins entertaining and have no issue with them being nitpick because I know they are not serious about it or are trying to really critique. Making a 43 minute video picking apart a joke you don't like only makes you look foolish.

[@catiseith]

Jokes aren't immune to criticism, and these are pretty bad, lazy and inconsistent.

[@alexanderpurkis3508]

CometX-ing If you don't find it funny, it's not for you.

[@MrHandss]

that's probably why he already did it to himself.

[@katekursive1370]

here for the nitpicking. drag them, skull father

[@occams_blazer]

Okay, I wholeheartedly endorse him changing the channel name to something involving _Skull Father_ because it's both cute and disarming, and also ominous and threatening - all at the same time!

[@sprotte6665]

I don't think it's cute, I only think it sounds ominous and maybe like the name of a metal band. That said, I still think it's funny, because it's basically the "me, an intellectual:" version of calling someone daddy. And I like ominous things, tbh.

[@TheTophat22]

I am absolutely in love with your name :)

[@spectrumefp]

www.metal-archives.com/bands/SkullFather/3540307640

[@sprotte6665]

Krolisian, nice pic :D

[@brobrochanel]

I hate how literally every line of Cinema Sins videos are delivered in the exact same condescending way, regardless of like what they're trying to say. It doesn't even matter that it's often wrong, it's just not fun to listen to.

[@BeefWagon]

Jam god, I can’t take anything seriously here. I just keep hearing Pewdiepie’s voice whenever he’s mocking others. Well, maybe Bojack Horseman may be to your taste instead?

[@mirmalchik]

or books books are rul good

[@pestilence654]

CinemaSins review of Cabin In The Woods is the best example that CinemaSins isn't satirical and instead just doesn't get movies.

[@itsPlasma06]

"The CinemaSins KZbin channel is probably the only human creation to which I would deny the title of art" Fuck. The absolute indifference in his voice tone

[@RetroIsaac]

The irony is that satire is meant to make you think. In essence your supposed to take it seriosly. The blatant misuse of the term is really whats funny.

[@Matt-jw2yo]

"Because they're lazy and their videos are bad" so cold how you delivery that line

[@BenZedrene]

My translation of CinemaSins- "I wasn't paying ANY attention earlier. I also REALLY don't understand fridge logic."

[@leotheliongames]

Huh, I learned what Fridge Logic is today! Thank you for the interesting google search!

[@lilrotisserie7642]

@@leotheliongames it's been 4 months since you posted this comment, so I can only assume you have about 500000000 tabs open on TVTropes now

[@madsmari]

Dan Olson referred to Doug Walker (aka the Nostalgia Critic) as a "fundamentally incurious person." I'd argue CinemaSins fits this description to an apotheotic degree.

[@hutchj27]

this is spot on, this is a major part of why it makes the content so annoying in the first place, doubly so for their fans repeating the exact same defense every time for years and years: "ummm has anyone considered that uhhhh he's not being *serious* in his critiques, like CLEARLY it's just a JOKE I guess you don't get SATIRE lmao it's not a big deal and I'm not crying, you are" -- if it's serious, it's shit because he doesn't care about what he's making so he doesn't even fix the most obvious errors in his work. If it's *satire*, it's *still shit* because he clearly doesn't care about what he's making so he doesn't even bother to clarify or make the "satire" remotely watchable.

[@Tenchigumi]

It's okay to be a little smug if you're right, and it's okay be wrong if you're acknowledge it, but Cinema Sins (and criticism of its type) is consistently smug, wrong, and unwilling to acknowledge how wrong they are. I think most people recognize that it requires a lot of knowledge to critique things properly, and thus smug criticism can give people the impression that you're "knowledgeable," but unfortunately such knowledge also requires research, critical thinking, and humility, and most "critics" skip those steps entirely. Instead, they rely on the nebulous concept of "common sense" and eschew research for the easier "it doesn't make sense to me and therefore is bad and wrong" approach to criticism, topping it off with a haughty attitude. Now, it's merely annoying when this happens with relatively frivolous matters like popular culture, but when people apply this same frame of thought to socio, psychological, and political issues, you end up with a whole lot of folks looking like Dunning-Kreuger subjects, confidently shouting down scientists and doctors with conspiracy theories. But all this could be resolved with just a LITTLE priming: before saying, posting, or publishing ANYTHING, ask yourself "could I be wrong?" and see where it goes. It's not always fun; no one likes to burst their own bubble and face their own flaws. And hell, this approach would probably destroy 99% of this "X-Sins" industry. But too many people are too confident with information they don't fully grasp, and our world NEEDS to remember the value of critical thought and introspection, as opposed to generating more smug assholes who think they know it all by default.

[@dougthedonkey1805]

Couldn’t have said it better myself

[@CamJames]

it's not ok to be smug when you're right. that's called being a dick.

[@gailcbull]

"Recently, a friend linked me to this video, 'Everything Wrong with Blade Runner in 17 Minutes or Less.'" You really need to talk to your friends about not sending you spam.

[@Vercalos]

Hate to nitpick a nitpick of a nitpick, but the Legilimens scene is from Order of the Phoenix, not Halfblood Prince.

[@mitchellhorton9382]

Pickception

[@Greigames]

Thanks, thought I was crazy for a little bit

[@kingnikolai5799]

Hate to nitpick a nitpick of a nitpick of a nitpick but there should be a hyphen between Half and Blood; The Half-Blood Prince :)

[@babassoonist557]

Hate hate hate to be a nitpick of a nitpick of a nitpick of a nitpick of a nitpick here, but prepositions don't get capitalized in a title. It is Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince

[@FallingandRelaxing]

@@babassoonist557 Hate to nitpick of a nitpick of a nitpick of a nitpick of a nitpick of a nitpick, but you repeated hate multiple times in a sentence which is not proper grammar. I suggest saying "I really hate" or "I extremely hate"

[@manicmuffin]

Cinema Sins deliberately edits their videos to take out context, so they can give more "sins" to a movie than it deserves and look smarter than they really are. It's such lazy writing, yet they shit all over the actually talented and dedicated movie writers they obviously wish they were. It always just come across as insecure, petty, and also incredibly stupid.

[@verde7595]

tfw thats the entire point looks like they get the reactions they wanted, too lmao

[@manicmuffin]

The entire point is that they're stupid, talentless hacks who pander to other stupid, talentless hacks in a giant circlejerk about how "smart" they are to spot these "sins" that don't exist? Okay, cool bro.

[@Stormthorn67]

@@manicmuffin And apparently the reaction they want is for people to point out how disingenuous and talentless they are. Which seems kinda masochistic but whatever.

[@saprissa30]

exactly

[@itsmealex8959]

Can you prove it's deliberate

[@witzz92]

I love listening to the will to live drain from Shaun's voice as the video goes on.

[@MalcH]

I always assumed cinema sins was a troll, but I guess that was me being overly generous to find an explanation for the laughibly sloppy work.

[@franklinturtleton6525]

I watched them earlier because I assumed they picked out tiny errors like in twilight when Bella forgets her bag in the truck, walks out with a different bag, then gets into the library with the bag she left in the truck with a book that's inside the bag that she was holding in her hands when she walked into the building.

[@prolifik5]

They used to actually try and point out errors in continuity, plot points that didn't really make sense, etc. (In a related note, their videos were much shorter.) Now it feels like they go in with the intention of making a 15-20 minute video no matter what, and so they just add a sin for random bullshit and even positive things. Even movies that they claim to like are clocking sins well into the hundreds now which makes no sense, unless movies have suddenly gotten exponentially worse over the last few years...

[@ghostopss111]

I agree with prolifik it seems that they be dragging out the screen time for them increased ad revenues. I'm not hating on people making money but this just proves lazy quantity over quality

[@Iritis-]

Nah, they're clickbait, not trolls. They churn out videos just to profit off of the excitement of whatever has recently been released in theaters. There are plenty of channels out there with solid breakdowns of their formula and why it's neither parody or critique.

[@Endermage1244]

CinemaSins is not meant to be a critique, just a bunch of bad movie based jokes. can't blame it for not being what they never tried to be.

[@kylefrank638]

1:15 The image of Shaun's delightful, spectacled skull avatar actually sitting back in a chair and calling a hater comment something as wholesome as "nasty message" put a smile on my face.

[@peapotfairy]

I had to scroll through like 100 comments to find this one about the opening bit. Shaun's reconstruction of these messages had me rolling! I am baffled that there are so few mentions of it in the comment section.

[@lk_3099]

Honestly, content like Cinemasins is what's killing common sense and basic critical thinking for media consumption. Suspension of disbelief exists for a good reason.

[@cosmo_junk]

eeeexactly. "curtains were blue" type shi

[@ahazybellcord]

The great crime of CinemaSins is a terrible attitude. Compare his style with MST3K, a wholesome show with light-hearted jokes poking fun at some of the worst movies ever made. This guy just has a repugnant air of superiority and the format comes off as obsessive, overly serious and just plain unfun.

[@troyjesse7833]

Actually, DNA can be isolated from cells found in urine, although it is not ideal.

[@kyre4189]

And is not an "every time" occurrence.

[@Shenaldrac]

"It's just jokes, guys! You're too oversensitive and dumb, it's just jokes!" Okay, can someone explain how saying something wrong and then playing a ding sound effect is a joke? Or how it's funny? Because... it's not. I'm curious, why are you people who defend the Cinema Sins in this way so over sensitive to others criticizing them? Are you really so thin-skinned that the idea of other people finding flaws in something you enjoy drives you to such clear kneejerk defensive reactions? It's just a video on the internet. Look, see? I can minimize and invalidate too! Isn't this fun?

[@Lemmonjuice-wt6zu]

Shenaldrac I find it funny, and I also enjoy the movies themselfs. I just like Paul’s video’s against some hatefull channels as well. And I think with all the hate on yoube it’s a shame that he waists his time trying to get more views by making a video on cinemasins.

[@AzaleaJane]

It's a knee-jerk circle-jerk

[@Crochetems]

S Hndrckx You didn’t answer the question. Can you explain *how* it’s a joke and what makes it funny?

[@Lemmonjuice-wt6zu]

@@Crochetems In case you haven't noticed, there is no clear cut definition on what a joke is. If the puns that he makes are funny to some then to them this is a joke. I'll give you an exemple, the fact that people really give a damn about cinemasins and go so far as to make a youtube video complaining about it, is a joke to me. Why you say? Well because of how insane this is. Laughing with some things can help you to cope with certain issues such as how sad it is that real problems exist and meanwhile people are worked up about cinemasins. Perhaps you should try laughing a bit instead of being offended? Be gratefull that you live in a place that is so nice that you actually consider cinemasins a problem, it only shows how lucky you are.

[@longliverocknroll5]

​@@Lemmonjuice-wt6zu Just saying "that's dumb" and then incorrectly pointing something out that you can't comprehend that actually makes perfect sense in the context of the film, isn't a joke. I don't care who you ask, that's *objectively* not a joke. You can argue all you want about the video creators trying to be a caricature of a bad film-goer, but that still wouldn't be a joke. It's not a joke and just lazy and pathetic. "Laughing with some things can help you to cope with certain issues such as how sad it is that real problems exist and meanwhile people are worked up about cinemasins" Cinemasins is *actively* removing a market share from the movies they "sin". They are *actively* and willfully lying about things within a film without creating a distinction between true critique and comedy. They say both in the same tone and splay both all over their film (at least that's what they claim to be the case). There are *thousands* of comments basically saying "thanks, now I don't need to watch this" or "I'm surprised, thought I would like this, glad I don't need to now! Thanks!" The reason people are pissed off, is because CinemaSins is essentially slandering a film and lying to their audience, causing people *by their own admission* to not go to films they likely would have enjoyed, because CinemaSins *actively* lied about "sins" in the film lmfao. You can laugh with it, but admit what is or is not a "joke". Like was stated above, many of those "jokes" are *OBJECTIVELY NOT JOKES,* lmfao Your defense of their content is ridiculous.

[@knightsonofjack]

Cinema Sins is smugnorant.

[@deathblite9806]

Well then, that's a new one

[@gnaskar]

29:42 I think I can out pedant you on the Moon size sin. We see that the camera is almost directly behind the moon relative to Earth, and yet the Moon seems to be about a fourth it's size. Since that is the actual ratio between the two sizes and the Moon is 1.3 light sec closer to the camera, the perspective trickery you mention mean that the Moon looks smaller than it's supposed to. The only way you could get the image depicted is if the camera was several AU away and had one hell of a zoom lens, and that's exactly what the shot is implying completely undermining my attempt at defending cinemasins. Oh well, guess the movie made by Carl Sagan really knew how to do its space scenes.

[@TheMendenhallen]

This guy moons.

[@ThatGuyLuxinor69420]

Cinemasins are the kind of people to skip a tutorial in a video game and then complain that the game doesn't tell them how to do things

[@daraghokane4236]

Thins thing was never explained, Exposition who cares.

[@broncos435]

arin hanson gang

[@flamingdog9207]

And also complain when it explains something

[@eibun2011]

@@flamingdog9207 looks like they're just bunch of complainers

[@shadow1395100]

they also seem to be the type of person to get mad if there's a hint pop up

[@sima4162]

Cinema Sins reminds me of when I watch movies with my mom. She says that she "doesn't pay attention to the boring dialogue" then complains that the movie doesn't make sense.

[@kayleebowens]

You see, my mom has the opposite habit. She picks up on the film's implications. When we came out of Prisoners, 7 years ago, she immediately picked up on the drunk priest who tortured the man in his basement being in the right because he was heavily implied to be the husband of the kidnapper. She is such a brilliant woman and I love her.

[@BlackBirdSweep]

@@kayleebowens trade moms with me mine is worse

[@XescoPicas]

My mother always ( and I mean *always* ) falls asleep during the movie, misses over half of if, and when it’s over goes, “We should watch it again some other day, I didn’t see what happened”. Then we watch it again some other day... and she falls asleep again.

[@kaisarfaust5625]

@@XescoPicas my Mum does this too - but it might be she enjoyed seeing you interested and engaged with something - and has a way of doing that without being weird about (beyond the regular parent level of weird)

[@XescoPicas]

@KaisarFaust You’re right, she probably enjoys it just by being with me or my sister.

[@engelstraene3]

I mean, even if CinemaSins was just satire, that would be the most joyless and sad satire I've ever seen.

[@revimfadli4666]

Speaks a lot about how sad the thing that was satirized in the first place was

[@AverageAlien]

The fact that their channel gets millions of views and usually has an approval rating of around 95% suggests that your opinion is absolutely worthless and everyone disagrees with you and your army of losers

[@AverageAlien]

@@raptorxrise5386 Notice how nothing changed after you typed that and everything I said before still remains true?

[@raptorxrise5386]

@@AverageAlien The reason i typed that is so hopefully someone that is confused on the matter doesnt listen to the complete nonsense you are spitting out. :)

[@AverageAlien]

@@raptorxrise5386 And still nobody cares

[@emoryclaire1477]

I'm an American, specifically a New Yorker, and I can say that EVERY TRAIN I'VE EVER BEEN ON has seats that face "backwards". They actually face both ways because trains TRAVEL both ways.

[@Connanro]

From Chicago here - the Metra line has sliding seat backs so you can change which direction you're facing at any given time, which is especially nice if you want to sit facing your travel companions.

[@Connanro]

From Chicago here - the Metra line has sliding seat backs so you can change which direction you're facing at any given time, which is especially nice if you want to sit facing your travel companions.

[@ianherron5767]

Former NorCal resident here - our light rail has backwards seats too

[@fogtheghost]

oregonian speaking, the tram in portland has seats facing four different directions.

[@jessdavis2677]

To add on this train train, the Light Link (our subway) also has backward seats. One ding for Seattle, apparently

[@atmoranskies]

when cinema sins wakes up and does the "waking up in bed" cliche

[@gemstonegynoid7475]

The "breathing air" cliche

[@Bacony_Cakes]

the "using enzymes to break down food into smaller molecules" cliche

[@tedbaloogafakename3659]

The "being obnoxious" cliche, created and maintained solely by cinemasins itself

[@stefannydvorak7919]

When Cinema Sins breaks his leg and uses the ambulance deus ex-machina.

[@Bacony_Cakes]

​@Colin Cleveland Boomer, please get out of the internet. You are doing it so wrong the ghosts of several navvies are facepalming.

[@mr.arthurheath4596]

Ah yes CinemaSins adheres to the ancient and admirable youtube style of satire: being consistently wrong in an annoying voice.

[@BollocksUtwat]

Don't forget smugness. Apparently being smug and wrong is satire.

[@hay9678]

It's satire in the same way that Pepe the Frog is "ironic."

[@CaptainSveid]

I just made 2 videos Sinning CinemaSins a few days ago, check it out if interested!

[@dmitritobias]

dont mind if i do

[@ehmiguel7602]

bad99 pepe the frog has a rich history though. Don't disrespect.

[@laurenlizzbeth]

Man cinemasins sure does criticize movies for holding the audience’s hand a whole lot for someone who so consistently seems to need it

[@archkull]

Hahaha brutal and extremely true

[@EvonneLindiwe]

Ethered 🤣

[@jamesgibbs3668]

Haha lol yeah

[@refoliation]

It’s my favorite form of snarky snipe that’s born out of insecurity. “If I understand a cryptic or subtextual element of a film then for that reason the element is necessarily laughably obvious.”

[@cosmo_junk]

​@@refoliationwhich is so funny bc by doing that, they're undermining their own ability to analyze stories. like "oh, i'm a stupid baby, so if i understood this, then it was probably made for stupid babies as well". what a sad way to look at art

[@inocuousaltaccount3103]

Hey, Shaun. I used to be a fan of CinemaSins, and I just thought you might like to know that you're right about his writing process. He made a video on his personal channel explaining it. He sits down at his computer with a bottle of wine and a microphone, watches the film, pauses whenever he sees a "sin" and records it right there while watching it. He does all of the editing and recording effort for his videos while watching the movie. So, yeah. It's about as lazy as possible.

[@Andystuff800]

Damn, that's worse than I expected.

[@The_Jazziest_Coffee]

that is legitimately pathetic like goddamn it's beyond lazy

[@GoneFishingAmalgam]

Could be lazier. Give it a few years and they’ll stop bothering to even watch the movies while writing their “scripts”

[@nikolairostov3326]

@@GoneFishingAmalgam like video game reviewers.

[@emilygordbort7300]

hajaha beautififl

[@mattwong5403]

CinemaSins: "Iron Man's nanotech suit is unrealistic" According to Jeremy, in a universe with Norse Gods and magic Infinity Stones, the one unrealistic thing is nanotech

[@bloodycoffee9293]

@Diss Raps That's not true either because they are gods AND aliens. That's pretty clear in the movies.

[@wrecksseesall4354]

@@bloodycoffee9293 Right?? and they spend SO much time on it too explaining that they are seen as the gods of norse mythology, even going over their life span, enhanced strength its like people can't focus for over 30 seconds, sigh

[@Callimo]

lol right? Even though we're actually developing nanotechnology in RL while no one had provided sufficient proof of Norse gods xD

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

I mean, it is unrealistic, but it's also a superhero movie and I am pretty sure it comes directly from the comics.

[@kwayneboy1524]

@@lyndsaybrown8471 i think he'd rather have Iron man look like Shaquille O'Neal from the steel.

[@MangoJuiceTwinkie]

CinemaSin's 'bulletproof vest' comment had me fucking lol-ing. It's like thinking bear repelllant spray would keep away mosquitoes because 'bear is more powerful than mosquito' XD

[@abigailpulliam6996]

Let's just hope he realizes that the bear spray goes on the bear, not on the human

[@RyanTosh]

Car crashes are way deadlier than snake bites. It's so unrealistic that you could die from rattlesnake venom while wearing a seatbelt.

[@SaltonGreen]

The fact that the sequel to now you see me was not called now you don't makes me irrationally irritated

[@steamtasticvagabond474]

But why wouldn’t bear spray work on mosquitoes? It clearly works on people so it’s not just some bear-only spray

[@teathesilkwing7616]

@@steamtasticvagabond474well for one I’m pretty sure that the main ingredient of bear spray, capsaicin, has no effect on insects. Capsaicin only really effects mammals

[@supereldinho]

On Urban Dictionary, there's this term called "Schrodinger's Asshole" that goes like this: "A person that decides whether or not they're full of shit by the reactions of those around them." That's Cinemasins for you: when they're right, they're right -- but when they're wrong, it's all just satire...except well-written satire is often times self-evident and doesn't requires explanation.

[@prohikikomo]

It's actually Schrodinger's Douchebag, but yeah that's cinemasins lmao Actually, a lot of the idiots Shaun discusses can be in this category.

[@Pretermit_Sound]

Yep. I know the type very well. They say something super offensive or disgusting, and then decide whether or not they’re joking depending on your reaction. I have an aunt and uncle like this 🙄

[@ericisprobablyfullofshit7797]

Honest Trailers and Pitch Meetings are good examples of satirical film criticism done right. And they're actually funny.

[@HellspawnAirsoft]

I like the term

[@jordynensor2081]

oh god my dad does this

[@voidsaverob]

By the way, urine actually does have DNA in it. It's a poor source of DNA, because it's in relatively low concentration, but it has both white blood cells and epithelial cells (that come off the urethra and probably some from the inside of the bladder sometimes). This means you can get human DNA from it. Urine also typically contains a relatively large amount of microbes, most of which have DNA. Bacteria and viruses from the urethra, etc. Source: am microbiologist. So that was a fun biology fact for you

[@DavidWest2]

Was about to say the same thing… there’s also possible blood in the urine which is common in many kidney disorders. in this case cinemasins is technically correct but my guess is they figured urine was like blood and just loaded with dna.

[@WayanMajere]

I am a police officer and I would only try to use a urine sample to test for DNA if I were to solve a homicide. Maybe some super costly political crime or a robbery - because while you are of course correct, the "poor source" is kind of the important thing when you investigate a crime.

[@voidsaverob]

@@WayanMajere it's not necessarily important whether it's a good source as long as you can amplify the dna out of it. the biggest barrier to testing urine for dna is probably just that it evaporated or the cells/dna in there degraded, cos obviously it's a bit easier to degrade in liquid than solid form and the cells will not survive well in urine. no reason not to try to isolate dna out of urine ig, especially since it has a pretty high chance of having trace amounts of sperm in it or whatever

[@comfort-and-joy]

Shaun Sins count: 01

[@thespecialist3608]

babies are stored in the bladder

[@mastermarkus5307]

The Moana ones really threw me for a loop. Like, I saw Moana and didn't know about the constellation or the drum beforehand, but... I didn't feel like I needed to? I don't understand why "[presumed] fake constellation is bad" or "that doesn't look like drums I'm familiar with, so it's definitely the movie that is wrong and not me, the person who doesn't know anything about Polynesian instruments". Them not knowing about miles per hour and kilometres per hour was also hilarious. Like the Tarzan ape/gorilla thing it feels like something that an adult would be able to figure out. I wouldn't expect them to know that 160 km/h = 100 mph, but do they not know about the EXISTENCE of km/h?

[@alisaurus4224]

Also, ALL constellations are “made-up” in that they’re decided upon by humans based on their viewing location and culture, not inherent properties of the cosmos!

[@StealthBoyElite]

Yeh, so all the "it's just satire" arguments fall very flat. The vast majority of the mistakes make them just look a bit silly or ignorant (and in many cases, stupid). Satire doesn't work well when it's not clever. And then you've got the obvious lies/manipulation via edits. That's never satire unless the joke is on the edit (and it's not).

[@LordOfTheFatties]

For me, it was really intense because it literally has the other numbers on the spedometer. Like, he literally can't read numbers. It's baffling.

[@johnmartinez7440]

A universe with demigods and a walking island, but the main issue is a constellation that sort of looks like a hook.

[@squidgirl0413]

part of it feels like a larger issue with criticism of fiction as a whole; in recent years a lot of audiences push for everything to be explained when it doesn't need to be. this extends beyond cinemasins, people will criticize any show that has loose ends at all when the finale airs, even though those loose ends would likely make the show retroactively WORSE if they were explained.

[@noodlepoodle3582]

If you can’t make your own Molotov cocktails, storebought is fine

[@kylefrank638]

I get mine from Revolution & Anarchy's Surplus. Them homemade ones are too shoddy for my taste.

[@deconstructyouridols]

As long as they are made locally. Support Local.

[@zacks8998]

Thank god, I thought it was rather abelist that only a select few could have access to Molotov cocktails, but now that they are selling to the general public, everyone can participate.

[@jonsnor4313]

Where do you get your riot set from?

[@johnnyrivas2619]

I only buy name brand Molotov cocktails.

[@edgarroberts8740]

9:49 "CinemaSins call Shia Khan an "African tiger". Which is odd, both because The Jungle Book is set in India... and because African tigers don't exist...." 💀💀💀

[@lawesomesauce6247]

The saddest part is there was no reason whatsoever to try to qualify where the tiger was from. He could've just said "tiger."

[@Froggeh92]

@@lawesomesauce6247 but the kid is black it has to be africa. Big brain moment

[@d.l.7416]

@ZAP GAMERZ *Shere

[@aftokratory]

Yeah Cinema Sins probably thought The Jungle Book was set in Africa and that the Mowgli is African

[@TobiasFangorIsntCis]

I laughed so loud when he said that line

[@JenkinsOwen]

CinemaSins are like the KZbin version of the guy who thinks he’s way, way smarter than everyone in the room when talking about politics because he’s hyper pedantic and makes bold statements loudly and sincerely to impress people, until he gets called out by someone who actually studies the topic, when he then immediately claims to have been joking about everything that he said and you “shouldn’t take everything so serious, man”.

[@skeleletonboi4533]

the viewers are absolutely the same, and I should know because I was like that and watched their videos religiously. I have been rehabilitatated since, thank fuck

[@dysmissme7343]

🤷🏻‍♀️ I mean. I’ve never taken cinemasins seriously- does anyone? Have the channel runners ever asked to be taken seriously? I’ve watched their stuff on and off for years and while I appreciate Shauns nitpicky corrections I can’t bring myself to care much bc all I’ve ever wanted and got from cinemasins is the jokey jokes and punchy editing I stopped watching and switched to cinemasins though bc the sins were bumming me out but I have always taken their sins to be absolute nonsense

[@dumberdummer]

@@dysmissme7343 to share my own experience, yeah, my college roommate thought they were brilliant. I felt bad because I think I did ruin a bit of his fun when I would get openly frustrated with the videos, but the blatantly false observations coupled with his condescending style drove me nuts.

[@dreaziemobbins]

@@dysmissme7343 what are you suggesting, that a person has to explicitly say "take the following seriously:" or else it's always just joke jokey joke joke jokey joke jokey joke. And I don't even understand that third thing you said. What? You stopped watching and switched to cinemasins because the sins were bumming you out? That is so extremely stupid that it's like you are sinning (is just a joke, don't take it serious)

[@IsaacPrinTheNerd]

Cinema Sins was one of the first commentary channels I ever watched, and it was actually a detriment to my mental health. I kept hearing how everything I wrote was a cliche or had a plot hole or didn't make sense, and it severely impacted my confidence in writing. Every time I would write something, I would get insecure, hear the CinemaSins voice, and promptly stop writing for the rest of the day, possibly for multiple days. So not only is it inaccurate, unfunny, and lazy, it is also harmful to anyone trying to be a writer.

[@AdaSoto]

Speaking as a romance writer, it's All been done before, but it hasn't been done in YOUR voice with YOUR characters and YOUR feelings on any given plot point.

[@left4twenty]

@@AdaSoto The Barenaked Ladies even wrote a song about it

[@Snowstriken]

@AdaSoto love this comment,you're ideas might not be original however they're unique simply by being written by you!

[@TheIrland09]

Sounds like a personal problem.

[@jamescarr1265]

it’s SO BAD. FUCK cinemasins.

[@VladimirLenine1917]

Terrible title, should've been: "Everything wrong with cinema sins in 43 minutes or less."

[@maximusorbis2548]

Charles Hardy that wouldn’t make sense and there is already a KZbinr who does that

[@VladimirLenine1917]

Zer 0 good point fairs

[@QueenFondue]

Nah, should've been 39 minutes or less so he could go 4 minutes over his claimed time

[@anu.]

Bing.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

40 minutes or less. If we're parodying CS, then we should use their lies in the titles.

[@peterbyrne5004]

"It's satire" "They're just joking" The thing is, satire makes a point, and jokes have punchlines. When CinemaSins blatantly miss or ignore parts of a movie in their rush to raise the sin count, what, exactly, is the point of that satire, or the punchline of that joke? Are they satirizing themselves? Are they just pretending to be lazy, and/or bad at film criticism, as a joke? Maybe. Or maybe they actually *are* lazy and/or bad at film criticism, and calling that "satire" or a "joke" is just a whole lot easier than actually getting better at what they do.

[@zaidabraham7310]

The CinemaSins team actually has a podcast called SinCast, where they discuss movies in a more serious manner. It's just a bunch of guys who are passionate about movies, and CinemaSins is intended to be a joke (poking fun at the movie, pointing out minor logical inconsistencies) whilst giving a quick recap of popular movies.

[@dansaunders1655]

Nice

[@barkley2824]

Zaid Abraham But whether the criticisms of films levied by CinemaSins are genuine or not, it’s still bad content. Many defend CinemaSins as a satire channel, but as the saying goes, satire requires a clarity of purpose and target lest it be mistaken for and contribute to that which it intends to criticise. The target of CinemaSins’ satire is, at best, unclear, and at worst, nonexistent. And, moreover, its criticisms are almost unerringly mistaken as genuine, both by its audiences and members of the film industry. It completely fails at being satire.

[@bernardomercado261]

@@zaidabraham7310 tbh I just use cinemasins to watch films without paying or going to a cinema.

[@Roooobb]

@@zaidabraham7310 How is pointing out a "sin" that is explained in the movie, sometimes immediately during and often prior to the sin itself, a logical inconsistency?

[@skore9975]

A British guy having to explain to an American how guns and American football work is very funny to me

[@vonriel1822]

I'm glad you pointed it out, because I missed that, and, you're right. It's goddamn hilarious.

[@archermadsen7744]

LMAO

[@alisaurus4224]

16:00 “black umbrellas at a funeral cliche”: i always thought probably funeral homes keep a supply of plain black umbrellas to hand out to attendees who might not have brought one. Now, “RAIN at a funeral cliche”? That one bugs me. Yes, the raindrops are like tears, WE GET IT

[@aarontheperson6867]

lmao black umbrellas cliche. woah wearing black at the funeral? no way!!! haha love cinemasins.

[@IamGrimalkin]

I'm with CinimaSins on this one, it's unusual to see a sea of black umbrellas at a funeral. Sure, people will bring a black umbrella if they have one, but a lot of people have only one umbrella, and it's not black. You'll see a lot of black umbrellas, but there will be some non-black ones mixed in.

[@dodixaverius9176]

@@IamGrimalkin while true it could be unrealistic on real funeral, there are reason film try to portray the funeral scene with as much as dark / black color as possible. It's called symbolism. If you movie had to adhere to real life as much as possible you might than only documentary and reality show with hidden camera on unsespecting participants are acceptable as a movie since they portray reality as close as possible. I'd rather watch a movie full of "sins" rather than one who tried as much to avoid it. If anything it is a sin that cinemasins make filmnakers and audience to think a nitpick minor detail as sin.

[@sheevinopalpatino4782]

@@IamGrimalkin Yes, but film, my friend, isn't a reflection of real life.

[@abohachuk4765]

Did they expect to see some pink or yellow umbrellas lol

[@quirkyblackenby]

Cinemasins is basically just everyone’s random commentary when they’re first watching a movie which isn’t movie criticism

[@useroffline9999]

Yeah, pretty much. I tend to be snarky while watching movies and make dumb comments that mean nothing. Shit, I could be rich by now....

[@edawg792]

Yeah it’s really just any kind of observation whatsoever, most of the time nitpicky

[@Felixr2]

@@edawg792 there's a difference between nitpicky and simply incorrect

[@mitchclark1532]

I love making dumb comments but I don't like being smug and inaccurate like Cinema Sins is!

[@mitchclark1532]

​@@presidentialcampaignmusic1018 It's not that they're bad movie critics--they're actually not movie critics. What they do is effectively not substantive criticism, it's completely superficial commentary. That's true. That is lame. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable for being lazy and dumb and inaccurate. They only claim not to be critics because they don't want to be held accountable for their extreme inaccuracy. I know they're not critics. I wonder how many of their 9 million subscribers know it. They should all watch this video before watching another lame CinemaSins video. We're not calling out CinemaSins for being bad at criticism. We're calling them out for being lazy, dumb and inaccurate. It's interesting that hardcore fans have to admit these things and make excuses for them. They're obviously true. You can't deny them. All you can do is try to absolve them of responsibility. Just to be clear, the responsibility we're talking about is being honest and accurate. This is like how every time someone calls out Fox News for being inaccurate and lying, they say "we're entertainment, not news!" You have to consider how they are perceived by others, not how they attempt to portray themselves. CinemaSins would definitely have more leeway if they were actually smart and funny. But they are neither.

[@sage11x]

“They’re lazy, and their videos are bad.” That quote always kills me. Came back here to clean my palette after having seen cinemasins in my feed.

[@galaxychill9578]

I read it as "their videos are bald" lmfao

[@meepk633]

People seem to be saying that CinemaSins is pretending to be stupid for comedic effect. Even if it's true, that's not sarcasm or satire. If it isn't true, they are just bad at following plot points not spoon fed to them.

[@Lemmonjuice-wt6zu]

Michael McDonald who cares? If people lile it just let them be. It’s not up to you to decide

[@longliverocknroll5]

@@Lemmonjuice-wt6zu Have you read the comments? The channel is actively replacing a market. There are thousands of comments that are basically "wow, thought I would like this, no I don't need to see it! Thanks!" They are *actively* lying about and misrepresenting a films flaws causing people to not watch films. This people are actively making their viewers more ignorant every time they watch their content.

[@Lemmonjuice-wt6zu]

@@longliverocknroll5 I really can't even be bothered reading your comment it just seems so whiny. You people are all so edgy with your first world problems

[@longliverocknroll5]

S Hndrckx So on top of being an idiot, you’re lazy and hypocritical lmfao

[@orthanus]

@@longliverocknroll5 Fine, allow me. Your two comments are very telling in a number of ways: 1. You call someone an idiot purely on the basis of them disagreeing with you. "On top of" implies you had already come to this conclusion after the first comment which was essentially 'Who cares if it's stupid, people enjoy it and it's not up for you to decide what people are allowed to enjoy.' This is not a necessarily idiotic statement. Therefore, the only reasonable conclusion is you decided S Hndrckx was an idiot because he disagreed with you. 2. "There are thousands of comments that are basically "wow, thought I would like this, no I don't need to see it! Thanks!"". Not sure why CinemaSins are responsible for morons making decisions purely on the basis of comedic videos. If I said "Wow, CinemaSins seems a bad channel, I won't watch their videos, thanks!" Should Shaun issue a public apology for "replacing a market"? 3. Not sure why I care about comedians exaggerating flaws for effect. I don't remember public outcry about the cruel treatment of airlines and lost revenue when stand up comedians were making jokes about airline food. Not sure why comedians are responsible when morons take those comments as valid thought-out critique. 4. Not sure why CinemaSins owe a public duty to inform people about movies. At the end of the day, a lot of the comments on this seems to be a holier-than-thou circle jerk: this idea that not finding CinemaSins funny somehow makes you better than those who do. It's not hurting anyone, so as the guy clearly stated, "If people like it just let them be. It’s not up to you to decide". At the point where the greatest harm you can come up with is "People who were so disinterested in seeing the film that were put off by a 10 minute video of mediocre comedy from a comedy channel won't go and see the film", you're probably chatting out of your ass.

[@toomuchyoutube3322]

as an american lemme just say yeah... our trains also have backward-facing seats so idk what tf he's on about either

[@RmcBlueSky]

Maybe he is too good to ride a train.

[@emolovetree]

We have trains?

[@unhumanized]

Probs never been on one

[@AzaleaJane]

Completely realistic thing cliche

[@unhumanized]

@Lady Cyprus i do and have been on one before i was referring to op

[@carolinefloyd3298]

For the I Am Legend sin, even if the movie had never showed the bridges being blown up... I would think it would be easy to assume how/why they are gone

[@AnnekeOosterink]

But that would require the guys from cinema sins to think. Can't have that now can we? If they had thoughts at all, they'd realise they were not funny or they'd be able to follow along with those basic plot lines.

[@Felixr2]

I didn't even catch what movie it was, and I barely remember the slightest thing about I Am Legend anyway. But I heard 'zombie apocalypse' and 'the bridges are broken' and I was like yeah that's. Probably to contain the zombies or something.

[@None-Trick_Pony]

I've never seen the movie, so I just figured maybe it takes place a long time after the zombie apocolypse started, so after years and years without any maintenence, the bridges just collapsed.

[@erraticonteuse]

@@None-Trick_Pony Seriously, decaying infrastructure is standard shorthand for the collapse of civilization. Like, "oh things must be REALLY bad if the bridges have fallen!" sort of thing. Do these guys play Fallout and question why places far away from the blast zones have fallen apart? I was about to make a joke about "would they criticize a movie set in the medieval era for the Roman roads or aqueducts being janky?" but let's face it, they definitely would. "This ancient aqueduct is made of concrete, but all the newer buildings are made of wood or stone! Did they forget how to make concrete??" **Ding**

[@LuaanTi]

​@@erraticonteuse Of course, it _would_ be funny... if that was what the channel was about. You know, like "Look at this stupid uneducated guy knowing nothing about history and stuff".

[@NosebleeddeGroselha]

CinemaSins is basically like Live-stream reaction youtubers where they pause a video before someone ends a sentence, say something, then unpause just to see them contradict their comment; the thing is that reaction streamers are on live and can’t go back. CinemaSins _doesn’t want_ to go back.

[@wilhelmkreis6578]

"guys chill out it's satire" - somebody who doesn't know the definition of satire

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

When it is about satire, does that statement hold?

[@darkmasteroverlord372]

"The use of humor, irony, EXAGGERATION, or ridicule to expose and CRITISIZE people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues." I know CinemaSins doesn't completely fit the definition, but he isn't meant to be taken seriously. P.S. I know that Shaun isn't taking him seriously, he's also being funny by using the exact same type of humor CinemaSins uses. Edit: bad grammar

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

@@darkmasteroverlord372 you dont get it

[@darkmasteroverlord372]

@@dontspikemydrink9382 Can you be more specific?

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

@@darkmasteroverlord372 shaun rightfully criticized cs

[@icspps]

"Super advanced, and super delapitated." Oh no... he doesnt know that an entire genre of this exists. Imagine him seeing the Cyberpunk 2077 trailer. It must be so confusing to him.

[@Piterdeveirs333]

I am pretty sure life is super confusing to him

[@eazy8579]

Or the entire Genre of Dieselpunk

[@radio_sparks]

This one really confused me. He must know about cyberpunk right? He has to, it's a pretty popular genre. If he does, then he decided to write a line where he describes the setting of cyberpunk as if he doesn't know what it is. And I cannot conceive of any world in which he thought that would be funny or satirical. It's really getting to me. Why did he write that line???

[@YEs69th420]

man i wish we lived in cinemasins land where having good technology means everyone lives a good life

[@gelatinocyte6270]

A society can be both super advanced and super delapitated at the same time; we basically live in one right now. Just saying!

[@modelmajorpita]

The obsession with realism, nitpicking, and not understanding any artistic meaning behind choices that cinema sins pushes is I feel to blame for how many shows are just impossible to watch now because they refuse to have proper lighting, particularly for night shots.

[@dysmissme7343]

Lol I don’t think you can blame cinema sins for that 😂

[@modelmajorpita]

You absolutely can since he made dozens of videos complaining about night shots having too much light, including on his serious channel. He's not the only one pushing this bullshit, but he is spreading a worldview that makes movies worse.@@dysmissme7343

[@M1ncecorn]

Anyone: *breathes* Cinema sins: *bing*

[@inconsolablepeasant1548]

Breathing is an overdone cliche/trope

[@M1ncecorn]

@@inconsolablepeasant1548 the director should just not breath

[@JeanMarceaux]

My reaction: *your pfp*

[@cslack813]

Classic exchange of CO2 for O2 via alveoli of the human lungs ex machina

[@DunantheDefender]

Sometimes I imagine Jeremy walking behind a real woman and muttering "this bitch still isn't doing a lap dance" only for her to hear him, whirl around, and break his nose.

[@wanderinghistorian]

"We can approximate the date from several contextual clues. There are these old cars, these guys wearing 1950s period clothing, and this newspaper that reads October 21st 1959. Using these clues I can reasonably guess the movie is set around the exact date October 21st 1959." HAHA LOVE IT

[@SaturnRider2014]

See that one confused me, because I used to watch CinemaSins alot and they had tons of videos were they had to have paused the movie to read the prop newspapers and point out some of the weird copy paste text in the articles and sin it since...they know that prop newspapers reuse that filler text a lot with usually only headlines, pictures, and dates being unique to the movie. So it definitely seems willful that they didn't mention that the movie uses all of those context clues to indicate at least to adult audiences what time the movie is taking place.

[@shuhaibthawoos1569]

bae

[@youraverageimperialguard7932]

Why do you have the Arabic letter N as your profile pic? Do you really like the letter n?

[@mikoliism]

ن

[@tiredprincess451]

i fucking died laughing when he said this

[@ROOKI3LINKX]

There's also a scene in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince where Ron accidentally makes the bewitched ceiling snow because of his depression. CinemaSins gives that a sin saying "Now magic doesn't even have to be on purpose?" Yes, actually, accidental magic IS a thing, as shown in the first movie when Harry accidentally makes the glass in the snake tank disappear, causing Dudley to fall in. As we all know, Harry didn't know he was a wizard until AFTER that incident. Again, two movies later, when Marge is insulting Harry's dead parents, he loses control of his emotions, and makes her bloat and float.

[@johnmartinez7440]

Yeah, their lack of knowledge of a movie universe is magnified when half the stuff the criticise is explained thoroughly in the books (and elsewhere in the movies too)

[@yooniverse5359]

The home alone doggy door one is a weird sin even if they didn't have a dog. The house my mom bought already had one because of the previous family and we haven't removed it because we'd have to buy a new door which hasn't been a priority in the couple years we've lived in the house.

[@kalewaaaa]

I can’t be the only one who wants to listen to Shaun list off why cinema sins is wrong for 3 hours

[@goingunder2548]

I would love for him to do a series where he unpacks the stupidity of every single CS video, starting from the oldest

[@MiraArrr]

@@goingunder2548I actually like the compilations, so we can hear him unpack several animal mistakes in a row

[@saorlathesurly]

I think there's an even more absurd sin in the Transformers video - “If Unicron wants the Matrix destroyed because it's the one thing that can kill him, why doesn't he go do it himself instead of sending others to do it for him?” Gee, I dunno...maybe he doesn't want to go near the one thing that can kill him for some reason?

[@asinineAbbreviations]

yeah like rodimus opens the matrix inside him and it clearly fucks him up. why the hell would he go near it if he could just get galvatron and co to destroy it instead?

[@kennethk.5464]

CinemaSins being wrong cliché. Shaun coming along to correct him Ex Machina.

[@markmillett6540]

in case you confused it with CinemaSins being right.........Oh wait that doesn't exist.

[@jblue1622]

Ding! This comment does not contain a lapdance!

[@johnmercer2756]

:)))))))

[@puppetmaster2437]

That’s Not A Cliché So Stop Saying It Dumbass AND HE IS WRONG

[@BrickBuster2552]

CinemaSins survives this.

[@woopiedoodie6297]

I stopped watching Cinemasins when I saw their video about Avengers:AOU. There was a scene in the beginning where they raided the hydra base, and Thor threw his hammer to a goon and starts to punch and kick other goons around him and they gave it a sin because according to them " thor has a hammer but chooses to punch and kick". How the FUCK is that a sin? He LITERALLY just threw his hammer out. What do they expect? Hammer magically appearing at his hand again? Or just stand there and wait for the hammer to return without retaliating? Cinemasins is honestly just a colossal fuck up of a youtube channel.

[@XescoPicas]

I also realized they were idiots all along while watching that video, but it was in a different scene: When the Avengers are planning their next move in Hawkeye’s house, they mention both Thor’s nightmare (the one Scarlett Witch caused in a previous scene, clearly shown on screen with impossible to miss flashy visuals) and Doctor Cho (the doctor who healed Clint at the beginning of the movie, also clearly shown on screen and with a lot of hard to miss dialogue). The CinemaSins guys acted like neither of these elements were even mentioned before, they were like “What dream?” *DING* “Who’s Doctor Cho?” *DING* I thought “The f*ck’s wrong with them? Did they go to the bathroom and missed half the movie?”

[@sophiemason8444]

You've just explained in a nutshell why CinemaSins's satire is not satire. "Why does Thor punch and kick and not use the hammer?" 1) Thor should not rely on Mjolnir constantly (this is the major character arc of his in Ragnarok) 2) It's a fucking great scene and adds variety. The one that did them in for me is Days of Future Past. I enjoyed that film, and I had watched CinemaSins make fun of films I had watched previously, but the way they picked apart the film was as if they'd tuned out to discuss something they hated in an early scene, missing the context of the next sequence of events in the film, complained that sequence was stupid for 10 minutes which made them miss the context of the next sequence etc etc Nitpicking films can be funny, but CinemaSins are not a satire channel no matter much they claim to be; they are those Uberfact listicles you read on Facebook when you've got nothing to do for five minutes and want to read something mildly amusing and forget about it right after...except CinemaSins is bad at it

[@woopiedoodie6297]

@@sophiemason8444 I know right. Thor is an expert in hand to hand combat but to them, he's just the god of hammer. I only see their videos on marvel and dc or other sci-fi movies and quite frankly, they are just like those internet trolls who made a list of a movie's "flaws and plot holes" when in reality 95% of it is just due to laziness and stupidity. Which actually makes sense because 95% of Cinemasins videos are also lazy and stupid.

[@hypotheticaltapeworm]

@@woopiedoodie6297 Holy shit. The point of the comment is meant to be insanely pedantic and illogical. You actually, ACTUALLY think that he cared that he punched or whatever? That's the point of the joke, however unfunny it might be.

[@woopiedoodie6297]

@@hypotheticaltapeworm The very definition of a "joke" is " a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter." I might be without a sense of humour, but thats not even CLOSE to a joke. So now what constitutes a joke to you is something pedantic and illogical and doesn't have to be funny?

[@classyrainbowhead]

``This video could have been 3 times as long´´ make a 2 hour long cinemasins video you coward

[@magmasajerk]

why do I already know that I'd watch that entire thing twice

[@CaptainSveid]

I just made 2 videos Sinning CinemaSins a few days ago, check it out if interested!

[@discordant8543]

Because you watched this one 3 times?

[@Count_Gustav]

if u add this video 43 min and previous one which is 24 min u get 1 hour then u can watch another Channel criticized CS, check Bobvids channel

[@ilikeceral3]

20 hour*

[@HotaruMari]

The "advanced yet dilapidated" moment with CinemaSins for me was that they sinned the Hunger Games for Capitol being able to generate mutant dogs in the arena out of "thin air" but they aren't able to feed the poor districts... Like... buddy :D Loved the stamp "Watch the damn movie", thanks for these videos, it is satisfying, almost therapeutical to watch these.

[@TasteOfButterflies]

I think "in this dystopia, resources are supposedly scarce, yet the ruling class who controls all the resources freely wastes them on frivolous spectacles and silly shit" is a repeating trope of a certain kind of stupid person critiquing a certain kind of movie.

[@Officewaffle]

Well now you have a sin for "ruling class cheats the poor of resources clichè"

[@obligatoryprofile]

'Why is the sky orange in this scene? Did the director forget what color the sky is supposed to be? This film is bad, and in other news, the sky is blue. DING' 'The sky is orange in this scene because it takes place during a sunset. Let's watch the next fifteen seconds of the film:' Protagonist: "What a beautiful sunset." Camera zooms in on wristwatch, establishing a date-and-time combination consistent with sunset in the timezone where the film is set Panning reveal that the protagonist is addressing Lord Rayleigh, discoverer of the phenomenon known as Rayleigh scattering Lord Rayleigh: "Isn't it, just? You know, it gets that orange hue because more low-wavelength-that is, bluer-light is scattered due to its longer, more shallow trajectory through the atmosphere." Protagonist: "That's a very concise explanation, Lord Rayleigh. It would take a very stupid or dishonest person to misunderstand this situation."

[@leland8021]

obligatoryprofile cinema sins would give the second scene a sin too though and then be too lazy to go back and edit it

[@Flowtail]

"Over-explanation cliche!" DING

[@aspergale9836]

This an actual movie? :3

[@zingtea]

Reading. DING

[@NessaEllenesse]

Bad writing advice. Particularly the video on tropes vs cliches. Tropes are not cliches. Tropes are useful tools that every writer has used for since the beginning of literature. Tropes even happen in real life read TV tropes website. Cliches are over used tropes.

[@vaiyt]

Tropes are "things people use frequently in literature, often for a reason". If people didn't use those things, they would use different things and those would be tropes.

[@BlueGangsta1958]

Three-act structure cliché! _ding_

[@Aeluron]

People use the term cliches way more often just to call something bad.

[@taomasterwaka6287]

Character growing after tragedy cliche! *ding*

[@Aeluron]

Human behavior cliche!

[@blackhogarth4049]

When I saw that part in Moana with the hook constellation, I assumed it was fictional. You know, alongside magic, demigods, and water being a sapient lifeform. Why is this a problem and the other stuff isn't? That's pretty pathetic, Cinema Sins.

[@katytui3746]

To be fair, my big issue with Moana was that they didn't include Maui's canonical death in the Polynesian myths: being bit in half by a death goddess's hoo ha.

[@peterprime2140]

@@katytui3746 Uh, w-what's her number? Asking for a friend..

[@iansullivan9738]

@@peterprime2140 U+03A9

[@circesgrotto]

also, "fictional constellation" as opposed to all the other, definitely not made up, definitely not arbitrary, constellations we all can see in the night sky

[@average-neco-arc-enjoyer]

@@iansullivan9738 You really just said 800 in the most unconventional way & I think that is nice.

[@moosenman]

I used to watch his videos instead of watching movies, mostly because I was a child and my parents didn’t take me to the movie theater, and I used to think what he said was so smart. It kind of destroyed how I viewed things for a while, I just started to aggressively hate things. Again you can blame this on me, but I was a kid, and impressionable. I watched them because they were quick, and they kept my limited attention engaged. Anyway CinemaSins is trash and not funny.

[@LuaanTi]

That's one of the really big problems with CinemaSins. It's just... toxic. It poisons people. It's yet another (highly popular!) place where people who don't bother doing any research spout nonsense, and when called out on it, they claim "they were just joking". It's really easy to manipulate people this way, and then they're all pessimistic, narcissistic jaded assholes who shit on everything they don't understand. It's especially unfair when plenty of their vocal supporters outright claim they never watch those movies (or use the CinemaSins "review" to say "Now I'm not going to watch the movie"). I highly recommend CinemaWins. It's just awesome, and it really shows that while it's harder to be positive, it's also a whole lot more valuable. Because it's much easier to see the world as a giant shithole, and pretend to be so smart by being so cynical (even today people associate cynicism with intelligence and knowledge!); but it's a horrible trap that just makes you a worse person. There's plenty of bad things about the world; no need to manufacture more, or throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[@moosenman]

@@LuaanTi I absolutely agree. I actually did start on CinimaWins (when I just got off cinimasins I almost thought it was run by the same person and avoided it for the longest time), and have been much better ever since. I think what hurts me the most on remembering back on that time is that I didn’t know a lot of the sexual terms they used (yes I was that young), and remembering how many ‘scene doesn’t contain a lap dance’ sins they put over women just talking is… so gross. They can say it’s a joke all they want, but the joke is that haha it’s sexist. And nothing else.

[@joemccarthy114]

“Watching his videos instead of the whole movie” is dead on. I used to watch for the same reason and I think it’s the whole point of the channel, not jokes or satire or whatever crap their fans put out

[@Lupostehgreat]

CinemaSins is what happens when cash grab videos made for a cheap laugh are treated as legitimate criticism.

[@deliciousdishes4531]

It's even worse because they themselves really don't treat it as legitimate criticism

[@QuickQuips]

They don't realize that the reason they're popular is because it's a way to watch more or less the full movie with every plot point covered. Their lack of wit doesn't matter.

[@solo8348]

It does feel like a weird area of fair use.. I know I used to watch cinema sins because it was kinda of way to see a movie without paying. I got torrents now though:)

[@josephbundra393]

+DeliciousDishes REALLY? Who would have thought, they didn't take it seriously. It's almost as if, that's the point.

[@justinrc1692]

U people take Cinemasins way too seriously. I mean, c'mon, if you don't like them, why not just ignore their content?

[@montyparata4914]

Hey man, I have to apologise. While I don't enjoy or like cinema sins, I was a bit confused by your first video, thinking you were missing the point. I now see that I basically just ignored all your points and now I see WHY you are compelled to make these observations. Sorry for doubting your genuineness!! I like your other content too. Keep it up my friend!

[@johnmartinez7440]

I find the guy's voice, and the overly long "sin" he has to try to read out at top speed, even more annoying than their numerous mistakes.

[@spongebobandplanktonshould2920]

This 1000 times. Annoying as hell. Besides yes, what's the point in speaking fast? Like, somebody rushes poor dude? Lol. Sounds like puke-inducing drivel.

[@archkull]

He sounds so pompous it's almost personally offensive

[@onesetofpajamas3873]

I tried watching a few videos of this dude when I was younger, trying to make myself a part of the fandom, but even elementary me was annoyed at it

[@Wyeuca]

"The movie is actually set in 1750, which isn't in the 17th century. Just trust me." That was awesome. 👍

[@gemstonegynoid7475]

These things confuse me. But yeah. Year 0 would be in the 1st century, year 1001 is in the 2nd century. That's how I remember how centuries work.

[@dioxyribonucleicacid]

@@gemstonegynoid7475 Year 1001 is actually the eleventh century. Century means every one hundred years. What you've written there is actually the number one *thousand* and one. There are ten hundreds in one thousand. Meaning, in the year 1001, ten centuries have been completed and the people would be experiencing the second year of the eleventh century.

[@malpheus4299]

I think you confused a Century for a Millenia.

[@Eviled]

@@gemstonegynoid7475 that's the eleventh century and if you're using binary you're still wrong cause that would be year 9

[@gilabila]

TheSourCitrus And if they were using trinary, they would’ve been referring to year 28

[@jackets4020]

Sees brown car in movie, "I have a black car, I don't like brown cars; DING"

[@chron874]

Congratulations, you understood the formula.

[@jonathonm8702]

I don't like formulas DING

[@refinedwrath9030]

@@jonathonm8702 i hate my life :DING

[@slaterwoman9237]

And everything is a cliche to them lol

[@vaiyt]

People sit in chairs cliché

[@Tiedyeban]

I used to like their videos but they’ve gotten so bad, the sins basically go like, “He got off the couch to set the plot in motion.” Like, yeah, that’s how movies works.

[@swaminathant.v8910]

ikr?

[@hi-rw4nl]

They never said that in any of their videos though

[@Arkain89]

Kylo Ren Didn't they? In this video you can see CinemaSins "sinning" a train that has seats facing two different directions, which is... nothing. Not even a joke. If you think that's a joke, I think you don't know what a joke is. It's even below the “He got off the couch to set the plot in motion.”

[@austinbevis4266]

Couch ex machina

[@Liliquan]

“No, I wouldn’t think that’s weird. Because I actually watched the movie.” Completely sums up CinemaSins.

[@elysahatestostudy9364]

The slit drum thing was especially embarrassing. Because when I first saw the movie, I thought the exact same thing "Huh, that's not what I thought a drum looked like", but then I immediately followed it up by googling the drum to see what it looked like and how it worked. 2 secs of googling is all it needs.

[@squirrel9544]

Who else wants a 3 hour long version of this? It's really fun watching someone with more than 7 brain cells ripping into cinema sins

[@ShadowPa1adin]

bobvids has an entire series of this.

[@MriInterocitor]

I would, except I don’t hate Shaun or wish him to go mad. :)

[@squirrel9544]

ShadowPa1adin yeah I've managed to find him thanks to the link in the description. Pretty dank

[@TaxOwlbear]

"Shaun video being three hours long" cliché.

[@squirrel9544]

TaxOwlbear "Long video" ex-machina

[@3vercent]

"The movie expects me to think for half a second? Bad writing!"

[@SorowFame]

Also “this movie explains something to me directly? Bad writing!” You literally cannot win because they’ll sin it either way

[@sarahv1316]

A 43 minute video about the problems with cinemasins?? You spoil us

[@RainbowLizardOne]

Not a whole lot longer than a regular CinemaSins video

[@CaptainSveid]

I just made 2 videos Sinning CinemaSins a few days ago, check it out if interested!

[@LaNoLaCola]

sarah lol the "Sins of CinemaSins" as it were

[@g.j.9515]

cinemasins uses the "makes bad content, hides behind "its just joke/comedy/satire" to escape from criticism" stereotype

[@bobthellama6988]

breathing air cliche!

[@andrewgreen77]

*ding*

[@NoobsDudes]

"Making bad Commentary and then framing it as Satire cliche." *_Ding_*

[@vanguard6498]

theres a channel called Cinema Wins and its actually pretty good, basically the guy lists off cool things about the movie. What sets it apart is at the end where the guy talks about why he likes the movie, you feel a connection with him and the movie, imo its an infinity better channel.

[@emmanueludoidung5745]

Agreed just so much more effort put into it. And while Cinema Sins almost always had me disagreeing with them (Haven't watched them in a while) CinemaWins has actually made me appreciate the good in movies I didn't like. I mean he got me to appreciate BvS.....dude deserves a Nobel for that. Note it doesn't mean I like the movie now. Just that I can see that it has more awesomeness than I gave it credit for.

[@sentientshadow126]

I just have one point of contention with this comment. Why only 89 likes (at time of writing)? CinemaWins is awesome and if you're reading this and haven't seen any of his material. Stop, go to his channel, find a movie you recognise (familiarity always seems like the best starting point in a new channel to me), click on that video then shut up and watch it.

[@davesdinnerz9243]

@@sentientshadow126 cinema wins does compliment parts on movies that really aren't good though. I suggest people just watch the movies and make their own judgements

[@sentientshadow126]

@@davesdinnerz9243 If he's complimenting parts that aren't that good, all the more reason to start with a movie you're familiar with. And duh, everyone should always make their own judgements about everything. Never just accept what someone else told you (lies exist).

[@davesdinnerz9243]

@@sentientshadow126 I guess I just rather a more in depth review on movies

[@zingtea]

I love seeing the nitpickers get nitpicked.

[@bigchungus7698]

What about nitpickers picking nitpickers picking nits

[@JimJamTheAdmin]

I really love that people get upset at him for nitpicking the supposed nitpickers. How are you that oblivious?

[@cervelmola]

the worst part is I dont even think cinemasins categorizes as nitpicker, when he is so wrong all the time. Nitpicking is something more of pointing out raccord problems or things that are actually wrong in the movie but not really important for the plot

[@deanwrubel5730]

You are nitpicky and biased, i win bye bye. -video game dunkey

[@FoolyCoolyBlackLagoony]

Cinema Sins sinned Blade Runner for visual story telling, if that isn't proof that Cinema Sins is the hottest garbage then nothing is.

[@kyrroti]

They also dislike narration, so I guess they sin both ways.

[@BollocksUtwat]

So they can basically do a video for the final cut and the theatrical and hate them both for the chief difference.

[@FoolyCoolyBlackLagoony]

They just don't care anymore, finding as many ways as possible to hate a film has proven extremely lucrative for them, so their just tripling down on their shitty criticisms and continuing to lie.

[@johnsonyessir6638]

Cinema Sins go by the method of flinging enough content at wall maybe something will stick regardless of research or editing. I know it's tough to make a living on KZbin, but maybe you should take that as sign you should stop, rather than becoming baseless and diluted like WatchMojo.

[@KyleHarmieson]

It's just a joke. What the fuck man.

[@sassytabasco]

Everybody has a friend that is Cinema Sins. Everybody has universally agreed that watching movies with that guy is like pulling teeth.

[@clinton8421]

For me, that's my younger brother. He even complains about movies in the cinema and gets all pissy when you tell him to shhh. I'm not taking him out to see another movie until he learns how to shut the Hell up and enjoy something.

[@lucaswibisono1316]

A good friend of mine at college once did that after we finish watching GvK. He's so irked about the fight on top the carrier ship where Kong and the girl is (I think, cmiiw), and I was like rolling my eyes hearing him ranting about it. I mean yeah, REALISTICALLY that ship should've been sinking, but hey it doesnt.

[@OceanHedgehog]

CinemaSins is like every Jesse Eisenberg character - they think that if they talk quickly, they'll sound too smart to be second-guessed.

[@TheEwqua]

So like Ben Shapiro?

[@VanellopeSchweetz1]

TheEwqua But Ben Shapiro is actually smart and easy to understand if you listen.

[@tellurianapostle]

@@VanellopeSchweetz1 he is only smart when you're an idiot

[@LoLchilled09]

Britney Cave He sounds smart if you have no political knowledge. BE is, in fact, a disingenious grifter.

[@Lrripper]

@@VanellopeSchweetz1 He is smart to pick fights only with 18 years old undergrad, he was really dumb to try and have a real conversation with a real journalist tho. A fucking far right conservative even. What a baby, his fan are the worst.

[@sage23ish]

These kinds of videos help me reprogram my brain. I'd been a fan of Cinema Sins for so long that I'd actively sit through movies I'd paid to see and find every possible reason to hate them. My ex girlfriend never wanted to go to the movies with me after we saw Hobbit 3. Even though the Hobbit trilogy is a testament to why Hollywood needs to stop torturing every last drop of entertainment out of any popular series, she didn't appreciate that I kept ranting about cliches and ex machinas during the film, and then kept talking about how much the movie sucked when we got dinner...with the other couple we were on a double date with. "Jerk of a boyfriend pays no attention to his girlfriend's feelings" cliche. *ding*

[@cjaquilino]

Ahhh, Cinema Sins. Breaking up relationships by turning people in pedantic jerks since 2012.

[@ardvarkill]

sage23ish I think you are too easily influenced by media you watch, remember we watch films for entertainment, although if hating on films gives you pleasure go hard I say.

[@sage23ish]

ardvarkill I definitely pay too much attention to what other people think when it comes to developing my taste, and I think that's a problem for most of my peers as well. Cinema Sins came about while I was vying for credibility in film nerd discussions in high school, and aligning my viewpoints with the "Everything Wrong With" videos kept me on track with the general consensus among my classmates: "movies are stupid, but you're not stupid if you understand why they're stupid." We weren't trying to hate these movies, we were trying to be better than them. I'm tired of trying to be better than people (especially women), so now I'm seeking out people who can challenge what remains of my adolescent insecurities and beliefs, for this will make me a better human being. Wow, I apologize for dumping my personal ethos on you ardvarkill, I've just never typed it out before... Hmmmm..... Reading *ding*

[@ardvarkill]

sage23ish No need to apologise for that, seeking out ideas and people that challenge your insecurities and beliefs is commendable and fun so I hope you enjoy yourself!

[@sage23ish]

ardvarkill Hey, thanks man! (Or woman, I don't know how aardvarks approach gender)

[@nikkiesweet7939]

For those continuously calling CinemaSins blatant ignorance satire, you're wrong. Satire points the stupidity in something and makes a joke of it... CinemaSins is pointing out things that are either explained or very minimal. Which makes it degradation and not satire.

[@Undy1]

The problem is also the format itself - some talking followed by a "ding" and an increase of the counter. This is just classical conditioning 101 - people are being trained to have a pleasurable response to the ding sound. The whole point of these videos is to get as many points (sins) as possible - and we humans love points and counters that go up. While watching a cinemasins video we're rooting for the "reviewer" to get more points than last time, and the bell ensures that everyone constantly keeps track of the counter, while also conditioning people to feel good every time it rings. And once the person is trained it doesn't matter anymore whether the point being made is right, wrong, stupid or boring because hearing the bell and seeing the counter increase ensures they will have the correct response and won't question anything. Cinemasins has literally trained people to feel good about starin at a number counting from 0 to around 90 over the span of 20 minutes.

[@littlemoth4956]

​@@Undy1 I have to things to say/ask: 1. Why is that "training" a bad thing? 2. As a previous CinemaSins watcher, I can say it's not about the numbers, at all. I actually find the bell annoying at times. I never cared about how many times it rung, and I never will.

[@rantymcrant-pants9536]

It's a satire of the audience... We are all collectively cinemasins.

[@DarkCreator98]

And it's funny because when they first started their channel they really started out pointing out actual sins and cinema

[@derekscanlan4641]

its still funny tho

[@whawhawhawhaaaa]

"It's satire!" "What were you satirizing?" _Leaves_

[@BlueSkullFish]

Lazy and stupid movie criticism lmao

[@SorowFame]

@@BlueSkullFishthat’s sort of like if I stab someone and claim it’s a cunning satire of criminals who stab people.

[@TotalDramaHarold]

@@BlueSkullFishFor something to be satire you have to be obviously making fun of it, not just doing that with humor

[@Rhoslyn_y_Swynwraig]

You've actually made CinemaSins entertaining for me all without me having to add to their view count. Thank you.

[@harryc5595]

My problem with CinemaSins isn't the incorrect sins. It's the cookie cutter, trend surfing, low effort and lazy content that really pisses me off

[@TheMrVengeance]

The latter is pretty much what causes the former. _Gotta fill a 10 minute CinemaSin video with sins on [insert current trendy popular film], but oh.. what's that? The film is actually quite good and doesn't have many proper "sins"? Welp, better force some disingenuous ones in there to fill the time._

[@danielludwig647]

@@TheMrVengeance Exactly, and that's why their fans need to stop relying solely on the "it's a joke" defense. Because it's low-effort and poorly made, even if it were a joke. And bad comedy can absolutely be criticized for being badly constructed filler.

[@Mathematrix7]

Yes and making a complete mockery of fantastic art that many people put their hearts into that’s meant to be enjoyed as a cinematic experience, completely degraded and used selfishly by some idiot for a small chuckle

[@Mathematrix7]

By the way I’m not saying all the films they denigrate are art, but some of them surely are and it peeves me

[@Bayplaces]

My biggest issue with Cinemasins is that it encourages teenage boys to deride everyday experiences as if they're cliche. Connecting them to this broader cultural phenomena isn't a stretch either. The amount of boys mimicking Andrew Tate, Cinemasins, etc. is through the roof. Breeding ignorance.

[@cjboyo]

It’s part of the general rise of shitty, cynical, anti intellectual nonsense. 😢

[@lucamne27]

What does cinema sins have to do with teenage boys u reaching

[@davidtaylor142]

Comparing cinemasins to Andrew Tate is pretty extreme and unfair

[@NotUp2Much]

"Cinemasins is part of the alt right pipeline" is a take I didn't expect somebody to be stupid enough to make, but here we are.

[@The_Nü_Wave]

I don't get why people love Andrew Tate so much

[@kirielbranson4843]

The Warcraft "sin" - they have been fighting humans as long as they can remember. But there was a time they didn't know who they were fighting. Because, halfway through fighting this unknown enemy they learned that they were humans. The lines don't contradict. For as long as we can remember human have been dying of cancer. But it was only a few hundred years since cancer was identified. There was a time we didn't know what we were dying of.

[@juniperrodley9843]

But how could you not know what a human is if you're fighting them? That's not like fighting cancer. Cancer is invisible to humans, of course we didn't know what it was before we had tech to identify it. Are humans invisible to orcs??

[@christophergreen6595]

UFO's. CHIMEARAS. These aren't even new concepts, the 'unknown devil/monster' has been killing us since we speciated.

[@christophergreen6595]

scythian steppe tribes bound their skulls at birth so they looked the the godsdamned 'predator'.

[@moosenman]

@@juniperrodley9843 No no- They didn’t have a *name* for it. That’s the point.

[@juniperrodley9843]

@@moosenman That still seems off. Why would they lack a word for something so important?

[@minnetjes]

wow, like, i didn't expect them to research their "sins" but that stuff about moana is just ... so bad. like. wow. i actually feel embarrassed for them. "fake constellation" lmao

[@Sluppie]

That part is the most cringy. Like wow. Way to reveal your ignorance, Cinema Sins.

[@gennybaratta2460]

I watched their Coco video (i know big mistake) and they did the same shit with Mexican culture/traditions

[@shadowboxing7029]

Fake constellations that Polynesians used to navigate the Pacific for thousands of years, doh CinemaSins.

[@ghosty8193]

yeh. im part Maori and when i saw this video, i got upset that they said the constellation was fake

[@kylefrank638]

A F R E E C A N T I G U R Z

[@snowboiiii]

Being a part of a horrible online film culture that judges a film not on it's artistic merit but whether it is a perfectly logical chain of events... ex machina.

[@markmillett6540]

cliche

[@snowboiiii]

Being a disgusting internet pedant cliche ex machina maguffin

[@doyleharken3477]

azzy mazzy Spotted the CinemaShit fan!

[@maximeteppe7627]

MicShazam: i really encorage you to check out recent lindseyy Ellis videos if you haven't. She used to be the "nostalgia chick" but she actually has been to film school and has learnt a thing or two there...

[@volbla]

... and then still getting the logical chain of events wrong... cliché.