Everything Wrong With Solo: A Star Wars Story

[@Nozerone]

Darth Maul said more in this movie than Episode 1.

[@johns5638]

He also died in that movie, regardless of the nonsense reason the show gives us.

[@johns5638]

@@onebehindthehair5472 He clearly died in Episode One. It seems Star Wars doesn't respect death.

[@johns5638]

@@onebehindthehair5472 Oh, right, can't forget that Holy Canon. We saw him fall down that shaft, and we heard Yoda and Windu talking about him being destroyed. What happens to a body when it hits the bottom of that long of a drop? The person dies, what with bones breaking, organs rupturing, massive internal bleeding. Him coming back cheapens death in the movies. But hey, since we didn't see Windu die, he'll pop up in some other later movie.

[@johns5638]

@@onebehindthehair5472 Oh, right, because that's what people who were cut in half, falling down a shaft do. Next thing we know, Windu will come out of the woodworks. And them saying that totally negates Windu and Yoda talking about him being destroyed. There has to be an element of both realism, and things making sense from point A to Point Z, so things like this don't happen.

[@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy]

@@onebehindthehair5472 Dude, the guy was *CUT IN FUCKING HALF* by Obi-Wan. How does one survive that? His return in the Clone Wars series was a total retcon job and probably the weakest thing about it.

[@elkudos1]

"Everything important in Han's life happened within a week!" Have a like.

[@MarcelNL]

That's the feeling I get with most prequels but this one seems to take it to a whole new level.

[@swishyswampy489]

Well it is actually over 6 years

[@destroyerofworlds6824]

I hate that they mentioned going to work for Jabba in this movie. Are they telling us the Han has been working for Jabba the whole time between Solo and ANH?

[@ForeverLaxx]

@@destroyerofworlds6824 I think the idea is that Han took a job from Jabba early in his smuggling career and has been trying to pay off that debt ever since with all his other jobs. It just came to a head in New Hope. But that's just me trying to justify a story thread that didn't need to exist.

[@CujoHyer]

@@ForeverLaxx Stop making excuses for other people's shitty writing. Just fight back against it! demand better, man.

[@christiangriffin1683]

For all the things wrong with this movie, there's one tiny, subtle thing that they do absolutely right. It's actually so subtle that I'm not altogether positive it wasn't accidental. So, in the vicinity of the Maw, they just *happen* to run into an Imperial Star Destroyer. Seems pretty overkill for a band of smugglers, right? Or just another random stupid chance? Well... no. EU fans know that the Maw (a series of black holes surrounding a small area of virtually inaccessible stable space in the middle) is actually a top secret Imperial research facility where they developed the weaponry for the Death Star, among other things. That ISD isn't there for them, or by random chance. It's there to protect the Empire's most classified facility. So... yeah. Han almost accidentally wandered into the most heavily defended and classified facility in the Empire.

[@Watcher-in-the-Dark]

Great Comment

[@Megaproductions302]

Christian Griffin holy shit I didn’t realize that. Good catch.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

That might have made for a better story.

[@blakethomson7775]

Idk, I'm not a fan of it. I'm just saying, if you buy the rights to be able to make things canon, don't just stitch your story out of what someone already wrote.

[@ajrocks5677]

I simply cannot believe Disney would be able to do something that subtle on purpose, especially after telling us the EU isn't canon.

[@jimcricket8128]

Makes no sense that Chewbacca found his ammo belt on the ship. He had it during the clone wars. I think people forget he was in revenge of the sith.

[@anddudewaslike]

jim cricket different belt?

[@thepickygamer4450]

People forget about RotS.

[@Callumjakelynn]

This takes place before revenge of the sith

[@disownership]

YourMainMidget It must be hard being that fucking stupid.

[@alexgauld54]

Virtual Hero People like you are exactly what’s wrong with the Star Wars community. Correct him, move on, and don’t be a fucking asshole. Jesus Christ it’s not that hard

[@devour_this5192]

Assuming the Star Wars saga universe contains 69 million planets (semi cannon), and lets assume about 50 million are un habitable, take another 2 million out for military planets with basically no population, that leaves 17 million planets left, we can also assume each planet has around 7.5 billion people (earths population), about half of those people probably own a ship, therefore, the chance of Han running into her is a 1 in 1,155,000,000,000,000,000 chance

[@engulfvids]

devour_ THIS noice

[@engulfvids]

Also I won’t devour you. I will engulf you 😉

[@deathbattgaming9648]

Damn...

[@blehitgamer]

Never tell Han the odds

[@GrexKhusan]

Never tell me the odds!

[@jadejaymer]

Lando: You need anything? L3: Equal Rights *Detroit: Become Human*

[@droddfellow3926]

Thanks Juggle-Obama

[@BoggydanBuckney]

That line made me cringe. That fucking walking toaster didnt die soon enough. She should have died in pre-production.

[@ashernotheis76]

Kinda funny how Solo and Detroit Become Human came out on the same day...

[@brickheadstudios8372]

@@BoggydanBuckney Hey, it's a walking toaster who can apparently make love with Lando

[@BoggydanBuckney]

@@brickheadstudios8372 the state of star wars 2018. If we knew this was coming we would have decided to stop after rots lol

[@jaeusa160]

"Everything important in Han's life happened within a week" And thus the big flaw of Solo: Cramming too many references and answers to questions we didn't ask all into one movie over a small span of time. Movie would've done better to cut literally a bit more than half of these. ...and to not open against Infinity War.

[@SeanWheeler100]

And having a father with the last name Solo would be a better explanation than being born without a last name and an Imperial giving him a surname for being a loner. And yes, the Legends continuity gave him a father by the name Jonash Solo and there's a whole House of Solo! Sure, Disney may want to ignore the previous Expanded Universe, but don't replace a whole family tree and retcon Han's last name as an alias. He can inherit the cool last name from generations of his family.

[@LeeEverett1]

To be fair, the span of the movie is 6 years. Plenty can happen to a person within 6 years.

[@rohansampat1995]

The movie on its own, if you are a hardcore starwars fan is actually very fun because of the references but WHY IS IT TRYING TO OPEN AGAINST INFINITY WAR... starwars cannot win that battle with a side film...

[@gardetto265]

@@rohansampat1995 omg I couldn't stand this movie. I couldn't stand any of the new star wars movies. They have made like two good movies in the last 40 years. They won't ever stop making them. It's all for money. They don't care if they are any good. If Christopher Nolan made them then they would be amazing but Disney and gargage directors and garbage writers made these movies suck. They just are horrible movies and it basically has ruined star wars. Now you can't be wrong if you say you don't like star wars.

[@hereandtheremedia2821]

@@gardetto265 You're almost as annoying as the people that love every single movie. Like TLJ was hot garbage, and SOLO was meh, TFA was rough, but Rogue One was a masterpiece, and you have to have brain tumor to think it wasn't at least decent.

[@kendrew26]

“Here’s a sin for the Last Jedi just because I can.” God I love CinemaSins.

[@LinoGuzman]

@Kieran Chung the last Jedi was shit in every way.

[@TheAdmiralMoses]

@Kieran Chung they were in The Last Jedi, hanging on the Millennium Falcon

[@deleterinserepeat2079]

I just left the same comment, liked this one as well. Someone just told me it’s a good movie and somehow I’m not in jail. It was a miracle.

[@Jakew9810]

@@LinoGuzman I mean not really, Luke dying in front of twin sun's setting was probably the best way he could go

[@SStupendous]

@@Jakew9810 So this alone somehow makes up for the film...

[@carlrood4457]

When I was a kid, I read a trilogy of Han Solo novels. They were all written before The Empire Strikes Back came out. There was so little back story, they just wrote a series of adventures starring Han and Chewie (and a broken down droid with a super computer in it chest cavity). They even placed it within a fiefdom within the Empired called The Corporate Sector so they didn't have to try and shoehorn in Tarkin or Vader. I saw each Star Wars movie in theaters when they came out, numerous times on cable and home video. I never even noticed there were dice hanging in the Millenium Falcon, let alone wondered about their "origin". It's this Hollywood idea that everything needs to be significant rather than something someone happens to like.

[@zionism48]

I think I read those too. Wasn't Han supposed to have been a an officer in the Imperial Army, which explained the stripe on his pants during the original film trilogy? This movie made him out to be nothing more than a grunt. Seems like Disney could've just purchased the rights to the Han Solo novels and saved a lot of time writing such an awful script.

[@isaac161000]

The dice were a behind the scenes homage to american grafitti. They were placed their by one of the guys making the film as a joke and they were never canon. That is until disney took over and started putting it in the movies just to pander to the fans

[@mikeockitch2174]

thats the wrong han solo trilogy, you have to read the ones that came out later they were "The Paradise Snare" which is the events from his escape from the con artist geris shrike who kept a ship of orphan kids he used in cons that they would fly all over the correlian systems 5 different inhabited planets and a mysterious space station, and why he understands wookie, and how the wookie that took care of him on the ship died trying to protect him when he finally escaped, but it ends with him joining the navy. Book 2 "The Hutt Gambit" starts with him in a bar after he's been kicked out after acquiring rank, because of stopping a higher ranking officer from abusing a wookie slave who escaped because of his intervention because of the wookie who had raised him. So at this point he's pretty lost. He had worked his whole life towards entering the navy, he's been drummed out, and in fron of all his former friends and piers, he's been stripped of all his medals and his uniform torn, and spit on his shoes, except for the corellian blood stripes which were awarded to him for saving a bunch of people from his own system because of where he was from and they didnt come from the empire. So sitting at the bar 2 months after he's been kicked out, you meet chewbacca the first time, and han tells him to piss off after he recognizes him, and chew bacca kind of goes away but then saves han after a card game gone wrong, and he informs han that he owes him a life debt, And this book is the start of their smuggling career, and how he got into it, meeting lando when lando saves him from boba fet the first time he took a bounty on han, and in return han teaching him how to fly his new ship the millennium falcon, that book ends with him winning it from lando. Book 3 Rebel Dawn, leads back to the characters in the first book who you get glimpses of during the second book coming full circle back to han, so he ends up going on a plot from a rebel group led by his old girl friend who he saved from book 1 of left him right before he joined the academy asks him for help in running a raid on the spice lords who he had saved her from year before. Agreeing to split the cut with him and any of his smuggler friends he could convince to help in the raid. But she and her group double cross him and take all the spoils to fund their raid on the information planet that held the plans for the death star (rogue one ripped it off) This is what set the rift between solo and lando, as all his smuggler friends felt he was responsible for the loss of life and the double cross. That book ends with him escaping the through the kessel run After he's been sold out by the spice mine administrator to the local imperial garrison after picking up jabba's order thats been smuggled to him by the same corrupt administrator. So he dumps the load with a tracker after he see's he's cut off on the other side by another star destroyer. Later he goes back to retrieve it and cant find the cargo, so he goes to jabba to explain what happened to ask for time to pay him back, and on his way back to the ship he see chewbacca talking to an old man in a brown robe. Its an amazing story, you have to read it, dont bother with the audio book, its abridged, and cuts out half of the story

[@73BigMC]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Han_Solo_Adventures I read those too; pretty modest fare but better than the shite written for this movie.

[@andersmcnabb8512]

I think it was "Han Solo at Star's End", "Han Solo's Revenge" and "Han Solo and the Lost Legacy." I read them as a kid over and over and for some reason the robot in the UK version of the first one was called; "Bollux". I loved those books, alongside the random offerings of the Star Wars Weekly comics they gave me sometimes disjointed glimpses into a huge galaxy of stories.

[@dduck3576]

**holds ships steering wheel for 5 secs** you’re one hell of a pilot

[@pg9193]

Me: ughh just die already, you video game mechanic-pilot-side-character trope

[@Linguineo]

@@pg9193 wow, big funny

[@jish55]

I feel the biggest sin of all in this film has to go to how it basically removes Han's "redemption" arc in ANH as we basically see him willing to sacrifice himself no matter who it is. It shows us he was never that smuggler always out for himself, and that it took a major event to be willing to jump in and help others.

[@popcultureinc.853]

Geoff Roach to be fair, this film does take place 10 years before A New Hope, so there is some time in-between for Han to become a selfish jerk

[@BooleanCorporation]

For me Han switches to the only skin I save it's mine after two betrayals in a row at the end of this movie. It's that simple. He is also wary of joining the rebellion because he is having trust issues with a band of rascals. Rogue One showed us that the initial Rebellion was on the gray spectrum.

[@sheevpalpatine1105]

Today's on: How to watch a movie i didnt see in the cinema

[@graffitiwomen]

Omg, this is really what I do now.... see a movie I don't want to invest at the minimum 90 minutes of my life? CinemaSins! Seeing a movie I thought was bad the first time? CinemaSins! Good for everything! ✌🏼

[@thepickygamer4450]

I enjoyed this movie quite a bit and would 100% suggest watching the actual movie before making a decision on whether it's good or not. I admit, I was also just happy to get a movie not centered around Jedi or the Skywalker's family tree for once or twice.

[@thaiylooze8217]

Oh you villain

[@idealab5289]

I did find it weird that, Han met Chewie, Han net Lando, Han did the kessel run and Han got the Falcon in like 3 days

[@MarcelNL]

Yeah hence the remark about all imporant things in his life happening in a week or so.

[@beakwooda.k.aadregallus8788]

Just like Finn crashed randomly on Jakku, found by Rey, then they found the Falcon, then Han and Chewie found them, and they were found by other smugglers right after, all that when the First Order was probably parking outside.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

@@beakwooda.k.aadregallus8788 There are lot of conveniences in the classic trilogy and prequels as well, because space magic has a will of it's own, it creates the characters "destiny", etc.. At the end of the day, Star Wars is just idiotic.

[@timstevenson3591]

and his blaster his name and his dice keychain that means nothing but turns out to be a huge thing . I'm amazed they didn't throw in how he got his vest and pants. \

[@GalanDun]

Yeah, I think all of that took five to ten years in the books.

[@gregoryhancock6057]

"Not everything we wonder about needs to be explained in a back story!"

[@DragoonZell]

Except....it already was explained....in a book....a long time ago...(well you get the point.)

[@UnorthodoxMasterOfGames]

*Juicy Chewy*

[@randomshooter913]

Except Snoke of course. Or the Knights of Ren. Or how Maz got Lukes lightsaber. Star Wars 'fans' need to throw a massive bitch-fit if those things don't get explained in a backstory.

[@BrntBiscuit]

@@randomshooter913 Yeah they like to complain about all the new stuff releasing. They also haven't seen TCW or Rebels either to know Maul was confirmed alive ages ago

[@MP197742]

BravoChief, how Maz got Luke's/Anakin's old lightsaber was never important and shouldn't be explained. If it gets explained, it will be disappointing. "That's a story for another time" is code for "it's not important enough to tell in the movie." Imagine if in the middle of The Force Awakens, if the story had ground to a halt so Maz could tell how she used to be a lawyer, and one day a new client came to her. He used to be a maintenance worker in Cloud City. One day, he got hit really hard on the head by this weird cylindrical object and a HUMAN HAND! Not only had that impact resulted in a concussion and constant headaches, but in examining the object, he accidently turned it on and killed his space dog, resulting in significant mental trauma and anguish. Unfortunately, with the Bespin Mining Bureau dissolved in the Empire's takeover, he was also unable to make any claims of disability or sue for negligence. Maz assured him that there's always someone to sue, and held onto the evidence. Numerous attempts to sue Darth Vader in the Imperial Court System were tied up and delayed. The Empire was in desperate need of tort reform at the time of its collapse. Unfortunately, her client died of Space AIDS before she was able to successfully carry out a lawsuit, and she hung onto the lightsaber. Now you know why it was a story for another time. Also, how as that for the worst Star Wars fan fiction ever?

[@Durwood71]

One of my coworkers said that this movie wasn't as bad as he was expecting. That's where we are with the _Star Wars_ franchise, where "it wasn't as bad as I was expecting" is considered an endorsement.

[@joerobins5649]

Still better than the responses from back in the prequel days. “The actors are wallpaper, the jokes are juvenile, there’s no romance, and the dialogue lands with the thud of a computer-instruction manual." - Peter Travers, Rolling Stone

[@360.Tapestry]

this comment is, if nothing else, well-written. kudos additionally, i was entirely cynical while viewing this movie. yet, at the end, i actually did feel like it took me on a journey - funny that

[@tskwared667]

@Melkhiordarkblade Them heading to Tattooine at the end isn't a lead in to where we meet them in A New Hope, it's just leading to the first time they get involved with Jabba.

[@ellesontlabete2669]

Whats wrong with that co worker? My wife and I were groaning as we predicted the lines by about five minutes into it. I dont say this lightly but it is an objectively bad movie. A horrid fusion of generic and predictable sprinkled with trite. The best moment of the viewing was she said "now this is podracing!" when not han and whats her name were trying to get away in the speeder in the beginning. Ok thats out of my system but cinema sins really needs to add a disclaimer about how truly dreadful the experience of watching this movie is.

[@mattybaesxp]

Honestly, what do you expect when there are so many movies now. Nothing this big, with so many movies, can remain "GREAT". And it was miles ahead of any of the first 3 prequels...

[@Jeffery00cox]

Han knew his dads job so presumably he knew his OWN LAST NAME

[@ghastlybespoke7259]

trying to hide it because hes a fugitive, and he couldnt come up with a replacement in time. He was flustered.

[@coalescence3835]

@@ghastlybespoke7259 I don't think so, man. This was one of the moments that he was really open. He showed his emotions, and he didn't know. I think it's a flaw, honestly

[@BumMcFluff]

@@ghastlybespoke7259 He couldn't come up with Han Smith?

[@KaosNova2]

@@BumMcFluff Statement: Precisely, meatbags, why not come up with some name. It’s not as if the planetary government wouldn’t have a criminal record or profile on this meatbag named Han now would they?

[@andrewthielmann5342]

I'm also adding a sin for Darth Maul unnecessarily igniting his lightsaber for absolutely no reason whatsoever. It actually made me angry when I saw it the first time.

[@monnomestbizarre]

disney is somehow going to use this to make more money

[@jimb.7523]

*"Hey, kids! Remember me? I'm Darth Maul! The guy who got 'killed' in 'The Phantom Menace,' remember? Here, lemme refresh your memory by igniting my lightsaber. Just to prove that it's me."*

[@jedigamer9935]

Though this was before Rebels when he hid out on Malachor before getting killed by Obi Wan after tempting Ezra for so long to become his apprentice.

[@Nanorobotic]

That is pretty stupid, but once you go Sith you probably stop caring about energy conservation or safety... Among other things.

[@pizzakungen92]

I get that a majority of the people who watch star wars movies only watch the movies but Darth Maul not dying in phantom menace has been known for a long time. I think for the movie fans showing that Maul survived is good and opens up for more Maul which is great imo since hes a pretty cool character. As for the fact that he survived is a bit of a can of worms but we dont see him hit the ground so the severity of the fall is unknown, getting cut in half is at least equal to getting two legs and an arm cut off and left at the edge of a lava river and catching on fire and whilst its not canon anymore there are way way more bodily harm survivable by dark side users in legends.

[@jacksonthesyndicalist2771]

The real way to tell how good a movie is by these videos isn't to measure how few sins they got but how many sins are taken away.

[@theveryworstluck1894]

This movie only had two taken away (unless i missed something). That seems to be pretty much par for the course across all these Sins videos.

[@thehorseformerlywithoutana2522]

Sins per minute is also fairly accurate.

[@TheBros2theend]

God bless and save you.

[@jacksonthesyndicalist2771]

TheBros2theend thanks?

[@UnorthodoxMasterOfGames]

That's what Jesus said, I mean that's what she said, oh wait I got it right the first time, OOOOO-WEEEEE

[@HurricaneDDragon]

God, just imagine how much better it would’ve been if Han pulled off this impossible feat of incredible piloting and then only AFTER he does it do we get to hear its name for the first time when Lando says “Congratulations. You just ran the Kessel Run in twelve parsecs.”

[@travishimebaugh8381]

I feel like they would certainly have to mention it while in the planning phase, though. And we can't really skip the planning phase Can we?

[@wadimek116]

You just did 4meters in 2 meters! Both are lengt.

[@UnorthodoxMasterOfGames]

*Kushy Kessel* *Persimmion Parsec*

[@kurtispowers5776]

How about this just imagine if the new 4 movies weren't made it would be incredible

[@spencers5898]

It sounds like something Lord and Miller might have done if they'd been able to stay with the project.

[@TrevanMorin]

I did the math and found out how they found each other, the answer is Plot

[@masol3726]

Trevan Morin it’s just cash grab

[@garrettbevelhimer6112]

I can't like this comment because it has 69 likes and i'm not going to be the one to make it 70 because that is against my religious principles.

[@SeraphimCramer]

It's actually not nearly as impossible as they make it sound. The odds aren't simply two random people happening to come across each other in the entirety of space. Crimson Dawn is one of the biggest criminal cartels in the galaxy, & they knew it was likely they'd be sold to them if they were caught in their escape, so first off, it's already basically a 50/50 chance that she'd end up with either Crimson Dawn or the Hutts, after which, she's clearly smart enough to work her way up the ranks. Then, again factoring in that Crimson Dawn is a massive criminal empire, it's a pretty safe bet that Han would run across them basically immediately after dipping his toe in the waters of the underworld, so really the only part with pretty slim odds (which can be forgiven since most movies rely on some amount of coincidence) is that Han's first smuggling job would be with a crew that was already working for the higher ups at Crimson Dawn.

[@mantabond]

Hahaha.

[@emmanuelmurillo5116]

@@kurthaas4331 literally every movie in existence is a plot convenience, youre not smart for pointing this out.

[@lloydus5048]

2 sins for skipping the fan fiction joke at the shower scene.

[@droddfellow3926]

And another 30 sins for Disney even owning Starwars......scratch that........3000000000 sins fir that shite, and an extra sin for Lucas being a sell out hack.

[@Chris-xw7vj]

@@droddfellow3926 Lucas didn't sell out, he gave all 4billion to charity, dude just wanted to pass on the property while he was still alive

[@VunderGuy]

@@Chris-xw7vj That's especially sell outish because charities are a money and embezzlement vacuum.

[@droddfellow3926]

@@Chris-xw7vj sellout

[@xmarksthespot1372]

@@droddfellow3926 I know that shits right!👍

[@CoolPaDuke]

"I actually would have her memory wiped, but she's got the best damn navigational database in the galaxy." Because in a galaxy far, far away they haven't figured out how to upload a database to a server before wiping a computer's memory.

[@silentdrew7636]

Then you'd get the memory back when you downloaded it again.

[@carlrood4457]

@@silentdrew7636 Not really. The raw data would most likely be stored separately from the personality subroutines and date which are essentially part of the user interface.

[@silentdrew7636]

@@carlrood4457 that's not usually how droids work in star wars. Also not sure if that's how ai would work in the real world either.

[@CarolusMagnus2501]

Star Wars Droids basically learn over time and develop weird eccentricities (see R2-D2 being an insane mass murdering astromech). So presumably copying the droid would lose what makes them special.

[@DMDarren]

NoGoufy when the fuck did R2 murder people?

[@just-a-silly-goofy-guy]

I forgot about this movie a week later

[@hellothere10yearsago97]

How are you everywhere

[@Drewbibski]

Kim Brown becuz he’s kremit

[@starhunter9085]

*I forgot about this movie before it even ended.*

[@gokunorris5351]

I forgot about it in T-1day

[@starhunter9085]

@@gokunorris5351 *JeremyJahns reference! Nice 👍*

[@Plotspider]

What's really weird? Han never bragged about HIM making the run. He bragged about the SHIP doing it.

[@greedokenobi3855]

Fact!

[@Plotspider]

@@greedokenobi3855 Watching "The Empire Strikes Back" there are long scenes where Han and Chewie are trying to fix the ship and it seems to be flying itself. Now, I wonder if it's always been that the ship was alive and sentient and flying itself sometimes.

[@greedokenobi3855]

Jared Gullage Never thought of that. I might be really off here but didn’t Lando or someone say in the Solo movie that the female droid (when she had ‘died’) was now ‘part of the ship’? Again, I might be mistaken but if not that might be what makes your idea makes sense. Just a wild guess though.

[@Plotspider]

@@greedokenobi3855 Yeah, that happened in Solo. He downloaded her mind into the ship. Which is one of the reasons he's mad he lost it.

[@greedokenobi3855]

Jared Gullage Yup that;s what I was referring to. So that would/could be an explanation for the Falcon to be ‘alive’. It’s of course a bit subjective if a machine or droid could be considered as something that’s living but in the Star Wars reality droids have emotions so who knows you might be right.

[@mrschizo2837]

"And here's another sin for the Last jedi...just because I can." Never before have I agreed with a sin so much.

[@TheShortStormtrooper]

So thats it huh...we're some kind of Solo a Star Wars Story

[@shropshirec]

Nah, you're just some big-shot gangster putting together a crew.

[@TheShortStormtrooper]

Codysir lol

[@masterpenguin8472]

Don't ever bring up anything related to Suicide Squad ever again. You hear? That movie is terrible.

[@videon6134]

Here's something that a lot of people are forgetting regarding Chewie's ammo belt. He was already wearing it in episode 3 meaning they literally made Chewie drop his signature look and go back to it again to "explain" why he wears an ammo belt.

[@benvoliothefirst]

Doesn't count because the prequels don't exist.

[@phoenixraider42]

you want EU or disney reason why he wear it?

[@videon6134]

@@benvoliothefirst You people are the reason why Star Wars is dead.

[@videon6134]

@@phoenixraider42 Late response but whatever I kindly ask of you to not tell me why he wears it from either canon. Ever since Disney came in I've cut Star Wars out of my life. I no longer wish to waste anymore time with this franchise.

[@MrDagoth23]

This guy is right. They really found a good casting choice for han solo. Before I actually decided to watch this movie I was skeptical about seeing a new han but after watching this movie I was amazed at how good the actor was playing this character

[@irktog5175]

It would have created a better story arc if Han had double crossed Beckett and Qi'ra. That way when we meet him later he is established as a rogue, making his redemptive moment when he comes back to save Luke much more meaningful. This movie sets the precedent that he has always been the good guy that will do the right thing over profit. It destroys the character arc from 'A New Hope'.

[@jamesrelich8210]

Han has always been a good guy deep down. This movie ends with him being betrayed, leading him to become more of a hardened rogue. Then, his arc in A New Hope has him soften up a little and go back to being a good guy.

[@John-uw2je]

@@jamesrelich8210 Yeah, I agree he always had a heart but honestly what is the point of this movie at that point? Its kind of just eye candy now. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Han betrayed them either, seeing as how they have been literally telling him the WHOLE TIME how its better to betray someone than to continue working with them. It would make sense, and add more to Han's redemption, AND add a compelling villain for Han in the form of his ex.

[@stevielee625]

+Oscar Gonzalez Sure, but essentially, we all have to realize that all cinema is eye candy. Otherwise, what the hell is the point of it?

[@TheThejayman32]

Han Solo was based explicitly on the pulp-era characters Eric John Stark and Northwest Smith. Both are hardened rogues and criminals-antiheroes-Who side with Good because Evil wants to kill them. Neither is a truly good character. To make Han a good guy starting out invalidates his pulp roots.

[@riastradh]

G4l4ctic Muphnz compelling storytelling?

[@Hrothmeir]

I love how random imperial recruiter gives more thought to naming random imperial recruit than Sidious did for Vader. On the other hand, Vader was his third apprentice, so maybe he wasn't letting himself get attached.

[@Paulafan5]

Sidious was grooming Anakin for 13 years (or more). He had that name lined up.

[@sammyclark5276]

It’s almost like Vader means father and Darth means dark, you know what that means, DARK FATHER, do a little bit of research man

[@SeraphimCramer]

@@sammyclark5276 More likely, since the whole "I am your father" twist wasn't thought of until Empire Strikes Back, it's meant as Dark INvader.

[@reesespuffs4869]

AdraicStarks sent to invade the jedi temple...

[@detective_mitch_conner]

@@sammyclark5276 hahahah @Gooseneckbottle just dunked on you

[@generale1234456]

So you're not going to sin the fact that Darth Maul turns on his lightsaber during a conversation just to show it to the fans and to make sure every last one in the audience understands that he's that super cool guy from that trilogy no one talks about?

[@FutureLifeSounds]

Hey, the prequels are not that bad. Better than anything Disney has done for sure. And no one talks about the prequels? I’m sure a lot of fans love episode 3 and the clone wars.

[@CrushOfSiel]

@@FutureLifeSounds That's going too far. The Force Awakens is better than the first two prequel films easy...

[@CrushOfSiel]

@@magellanthecat Disagree. I've never been able to muster watching Attack of the Clones (I actually had to look this title up it was so forgettable) or The Phantom Menace again but was able to watch TFA a second time no problem.

[@paulatreides6711]

@@CrushOfSiel how TFa is better than the first two prequels film easy ? i mean just look at the story of those movies tell , in one hand we had something we never seen before , a new context , the ancient republic , the jedi order , the creation of the clone army ,palpatine manipulations ,a well established worldbuilding , etc etc , on the other hand , TFA , a rehash story of what we saw in the OT , with no worlbuilding at all , no context , and boring characters . I will always put the prequels on top of the sequels aka the nostalogy ,because what i expect from a star wars movie , is something new ,and Lucas did his best to deliver that and he would have done the same with his own sequels . by the way Mauler is preparing a huge TFA critics , you might take a look .kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2bQfWarqJV7ibM

[@pinkiepikafun]

Can anyone help me clear this up? I have a big admiration for Star Wars in general (ever since I was little), and after I first watched this movie with my friends, and we had seen the supposed "Darth Maul" cameo, we were a little confused why he was in it at all. We first talked about that the Han Solo movie timeline comes in between episodes 3 and 4, then were talking about the fact that Obi Wan lightsabered Darth Maul in half in episode 1 (So we assumed he was very dead, of course). After that was mentioned, we then started thinking the "Darth Maul" that was shown in the Han Solo movie, was just another dark Jedi from Darth Mauls race. (I guess to throw off the audience?) I'm not entirely sure. If anyone has any extra information, it'd be much appreciated.

[@KneelB4Bacon]

_"It was a lawless time . . ."_ Except for the Imperial stormtroopers everywhere, enforcing the Empire's will.

[@thaiylooze8217]

You wouldn’t consider an empire being run by a psychopathic villain as being “lawless”? Are you insinuating that there is honor among thieves?

[@KneelB4Bacon]

@@thaiylooze8217 The writers want to have it both ways. They want to show the Empire is a threat throughout the movie, while at the same time, the Empire is so weak that a crime boss can apparently kill an Empire official without the Empire coming in and curb-stomping his little "crime syndicate" into oblivion.

[@thaiylooze8217]

@@KneelB4Bacon 🤔

[@fernandolaracereceda6440]

Yes, and at the same time a mob henchmen can come into an Imperial station, do whatever they want and the Stormtroopers just look the other way around.

[@thenever-tollingbell8230]

I want a colab between cinemasins and cinemawins where cinemasins goes through their normal routine, but then cinemawins interjects and tries to take away all of the sins the movie got. When cinemawins is talking, Jeremy is just shouting "this is my video" in the background.

[@ninjavinnie2987]

Yes that would be so cool

[@thatonejedinobodyknowsthen3452]

Then SinsSins comes in critiquing their sins

[@Dargonhuman]

That would actually be a lot of fun to watch, not gonna lie.

[@quinnlewis1753]

I was thinking they shouldve done it for TLJ, but that didnt happen

[@hanburgundy4317]

@@quinnlewis1753...because The Last Jedi had zero redeeming qualities and literally killed Star Wars.

[@BillyBobJoeSurviv]

I’ve been waiting for this because I never saw this movie and this is the only way I can see it

[@halfghoul3872]

Billy Bob Joe I think it’s coming to Netflix on January

[@kobathedread]

This is the only way you want to see it.

[@jasonblalock4429]

You really didn't miss much. Say what you will about The Last Jedi, at least it had an ethos and was the product of a filmmaker expressing a clear vision. Solo was a soulless corporate product with no good reason to exist in the first place, yanked away from filmmakers with a vision, to be instead turned into the Big Mac of Star Wars movies. Oh, but it brought fucking Maul back for a cameo, so all the prequel fanboys love it, nevermind how anyone who didn't watch the cartoons would be totally baffled by his sudden unexplained reappearance.

[@thisiswhatilike54]

Jason Blalock “Product of a filmmaker expressing a clear vision.” You’re not talking about Rian “Roundhead” Johnson, are you?

[@KniteGraffiti]

I wish that's how I saw it...

[@chubbypekingese]

The Solo story should have played out more like the movie PAYBACK where everyone is a bad guy. Han Solo is supposed to be a bad guy in Episode IV. Episode IV is his redemption story.

[@tskwared667]

He's not a "bad guy," he's an outlaw doing whatever it takes to get ahead. Most of his actions in Solo are still mostly just for himself. Ep 5 is the arc of his character learning to care about something more than himself.

[@chubbypekingese]

tskwared667, Han Solo was supposed to be a scoundrel. Doesn’t anyone remember Obi won Kenobi’s description of Mod Easley? Han Solo was a bad guy among a group of vile people. Episode IV was his redemption story..

[@tskwared667]

@@chubbypekingese But Han was just in Mos Eisely because of his business with Jabba. He didn't live there, he was just passing through because that's where his smuggling business brought him.

[@hunterdavis9941]

@@tskwared667 yes smuggling, an illegal business preformed by criminals who care a lot about money. That description definitely applies to Han, the people in the Cantina and definitely does not make him out to be a good guy in the first movie. Han's arc in episode IV is about your cynical rouge starting to find something worth fighting for to care about and Episode V is him committing to that fight.

[@louisvictor3473]

@@hunterdavis9941 illegal business in an era ruled by a ruthless empire. Yes, being an outlaw in such times automatically makes one a bad guy. Like those illegal rebel soldiers fighting against the legal rulers, killing their soldiers and blowing up governmental property and killing millions in the process. Such illegal criminal douches.

[@SnipeMD]

12:50 The most genuine Cinemasins laugh ever.

[@TheAdvertisement]

14:00 So... the ship isn’t the fastest? It just cheated.

[@SomeRandomGuy789]

TheAdvertisement Yeah pretty much. Thats what bothered me in the movie, but it is still cool. No one knows if he cheated or not because no one was there to see him do it.

[@SeaGLGaming]

I mean, that was revealed in the original trilogy. We knew he was lying about it being the fastest ship when it could barely enter hyperspace.

[@charliesteele1893]

I mean he didn’t cheat the kessel run he just found another way through. The whole point of that was that Han said 12 parasecs in episode IV when talking about his ship. However parasecs are a measurement of distance rather than time. So there isn’t a predetermined route it’s just unsafe to go into the maelstrom.

[@TheSixthDoctor]

It becomes the fastest inbetween this movie and IV, as Han mentions installing some new gobbledigook allowing for it to reach 1.5 times lightspeed when Obi-Wan and Luke enter the hangar on Tatooine. The Kessel Run was always about "cheating", even in the old EU, where "the Maw" was a cluster of black holes that were difficult to navigate without being pulled into its gravity well. The Falcon's engine was powerful enough to allow Han to fly really close to the black holes and setting a record time (and stretch length) for the entire route.

[@TheSixthDoctor]

@@SeaGLGaming What do you mean "it could barely enter hyperspace"? It could always do that when the hyperdrive was working. It was faulty during ANH and out of commission for ESB.

[@TheMisleduser]

Man so many years of legends cannon these writers can draw inspiration from and they give us this. I want a thrawn movie damn it.

[@BottomShelfGames]

The first part of this comment makes the second hard to understand.

[@franohmsford7548]

@@BottomShelfGames He's talking about Legends Thrawn! From Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Jedi, Spectre of the Past and Visions of the Future! Unfortunately every one of those books has not only been decanonized but straight up shat on by JJ, kathleen and Rian!

[@franohmsford7548]

@ddam1320 But it's still not the same Thrawn....Basically a completely different character just with the same name!

[@kaprelesartware]

'Solo: An Underlit Story' could have used better lighting. It looks okay-ish on a HD screen, but on a cinema screen?!

[@GalenMarekOfficial]

Nah, looked great. But HP and the deathly hollows? Its like they didnt take of the dust protection cap of the cameras...

[@helenanilsson5666]

Honestly, way too many movies are much too dark. Would it really kill the moody atmosphere if we could see what was going on?

[@kaprelesartware]

Indeed. A good example of a dark, brooding atmospheric, yet brightly lit movie is 'THX 1138'. Most movies these days are shot digitally, which I think also contributes to movies looking too dark (especially night scenes). Not to mention cinemas that wait to long to change an old bulb in the projector, which results in a dark picture quality. I talked to a projectionist once who confirmed this. 35 mm and analog projection is still the best way to make and show movies.

[@1bendykat]

A parsec is a unit of distance. It’s not a Star Wars thing, it’s an actual thing.

[@Jito463]

The point was that from the first movie, Star Wars has treated it more like a measure of time rather than distance. It could just be lazy/poor writing, but that's how it comes across.

[@berengustav7714]

Somebody else knows this!!

[@TheJpf79]

@@Jito463 No the trouble is people totally failed to understand what a parsec is. That's not "the movies" fault, it's peoples fault for failing to understand and then thinking they're not wrong about it and trying to blame a film. Like you have done.

[@Jito463]

@@TheJpf79 Except that I know it's a measure of distance, not time, but whatever. If you want to believe that line wasn't ambiguously written, go for it.

[@TheJpf79]

@@Jito463 Don't BLATANTLY LIE underneath your previous comment. PEOPLE got it wrong. YOU are trying to blame a film for that. Don't add blatant lies onto idiocy and ignorance mate.

[@VinxTerranova]

Darth Maul was actually alive before Disney came in. I'm pretty sure. They just animated it. Maul has been the lead of the Crimson Dawn for a long time. Except you'd have to watch the animated series lol

[@jarink1]

Yes, Maul's recovery and turn to the criminal world was completely covered in "The Clone Wars" animated series.

[@juliabrnssr]

@@jarink1 I guess the question lies which animated Series, the traditionally animated one or the Computer Generated one?

[@FJAR1635]

johnbrnssr The CGI series that premiered with a theatrical release and later aired on Cartoon Network.

[@travishimebaugh8381]

We have a saying around here about non-movie material And it's that the host wins anyway

[@73BigMC]

"It's like modern movies want to stamp out the human imagination, not inspire it". Sad but true.

[@kingartifex]

Supply and demand

[@jentaro]

"Solo: a Tokyo Drift story"... ahahahahahahahahahahahahah.

[@sociallyawkwardpotato6509]

Yup. The magical land of Cinema Sins!

[@jentaro]

Look, they're giving out wings.

[@Drflash55Official]

Nah more like Initial D. "DEJA VU, I HAVE BEEN IN THIS PLACE BEFORE..."

[@kfuj1815]

I wonder if you know how they live in Corellia

[@commentfreely5443]

parsec is distance

[@AlexSkullUterna]

5:58 She didn't kill herself for money. They were stealing for a gangster who would kill them if they fail.

[@Kyle1227]

Except he didn't, so that was really pointless.

[@emmanuelmurillo5116]

@@Kyle1227 because Han was able to convince Dryden that they would be able to get the coaxium the other way. Val had no idea that would happen and she also had to blow the bridge anyway because if she didn't then everyone else would have been killed by the viper droids. Your comment was pointless.

[@Kyle1227]

@@emmanuelmurillo5116 it's still pointless that she killed herself to try to benefit people who she couldn't trust

[@emmanuelmurillo5116]

@@Kyle1227 She didn't trust han and chewie but she loved Beckett and was friends with Rio. Why is she gonna let them die because she doesn't trust Han and Chewie, who at most she thought were just gonna slow them down or screw things up.

[@Kyle1227]

@@emmanuelmurillo5116 that's true, but to be honest only having a pistol-like blaster and a thermal detonator as a method of self defense when going on a big heist is a terrible idea.

[@KronosCifer]

Agree with taking a sin off. Initially I was against Alden Ehrenreich as Han, it just looked bad on paper. You cannot simply replace Harrison Ford. But he f*cking nailed it. It truly feels like a young Han. Him and Donald Glover are the best part about this movie.

[@JoshuaNielsen713]

Heheh, he just took a sin off so the counter could be 69 as they started making out

[@khazar2003]

Harrison Ford ruined Han Solo , because he went out and openly said he hates star wars and he hated filming them. George Lucas needs to go back an CGI Alden Ehrenreich over every harrison ford scene in all the movies.

[@KronosCifer]

@@khazar2003 I don't think characters and movies should ever be judged by the actors or anyone else who had a part in it. Don't judge Han Solo through Harrison Ford, but by his portrayal of him. You may not like Ford, but that does not discredit Han in any way shape or form. Alec Guinness stance toward Star Wars doesn't make his performance as old Ben any less amazing and impactful. I still like Kevin Spacey's performances. The person Kevin Spacey is an entirely different matter. Judge by the portrayal, never by the person.

[@jonathanbethards3689]

ChronosCipher Truth.

I have to admit that I love Alden Ehrenreich's Han more than Harrison Ford's. And I'm proud of it

[@sc_art5408]

7:50 You missed a sin. Dryden has an alliance with the Pykes, and doesn’t want them to know he’s stealing from him, in fear of an all out war with the crime syndicates. But he sends Qi’ra with the crew to steal the shipment! HIS TOP LIEUTENANT! I thought he didn’t want to be linked to the crime? Surely sending his top lieutenant would link him to the theft! Is everyone in this movie an idiot?

[@travishimebaugh8381]

Is she widely known as his lieutenant? Crimson Dawn strikes me as a somewhat secretive bunch; I certainly don't imagine many people know who's at the top of the outfit.

[@agustinbaletti]

I read it with his voice😂 well done

[@VicenteTorresAliasVits]

You didn't the sin the worst part of the movie: The cinematography. I'm not saying such desaturated colors can't work in a movie (nor that a movie needs to be overly-saturated), but they can't work in a sequel/prequel in a saga where every other movie has had a traditional color palette. And there's a reason why they've had it: These aren't just sci-fi stories; they're sci-fi adventures that, no matter how dark they can get, they're ultimately fun.

[@agustinbaletti]

Good point but I liked it

[@d.j.2408]

I've heard a lot of criticism about the lighting being too dark (even CinemaWins gives it flack). I don't completely disagree, but it's not something that ruins the movie for me. At least there's some actual color, and not completely bleached like BvS....

[@snart2195]

Biggest problem I had was they tried to work in a lot of jokes but they were all undercut by the palette being super dark and dreary. Like shoving a fart joke into Schindler's List. It was even more baffling because of Ron Howard's link to such great comedies. Like he should have seen a huge issue with that and color correcting comedic scenes would have been so simple. Just confusing.

[@VicenteTorresAliasVits]

@Agustín Baletti The cinematography or the movie? @D. J. Well, B.V.S. had desaturated colors but the lighting still allowed the colors to pop at times, unlike SOLO. And if I felt this way watching them in the theatre, I can't imagine how it must be on TV or a computer. Now, the cinematography didn't completely ruin the movie for me either. The script on the other hand...

[@li-limandragon9287]

Even Zack Synder would be like brighten it up guys.

[@cecilrichardson2494]

Wait, no mention of how Han exposes Lando for the cheater he is at cards (and to an entire room full of people/aliens/droids, at that)? I know at least SOME of them (on Han's side of the table) saw Lando dip his right hand out of sight, and saw the perplexed look on his face when he realized the card dispenser on his wrist was empty. I'm amazed Lando didn't get himself shot dead for that!

[@DarthArachnious]

Hard core Star Wars fans know how Sabacc is played. And that's not how Sabacc is played.

[@MrFaorry]

Pazaak > Sabacc

[@Shiirow]

Im fairly certain the people who wrote this movie arent hardcore star wars fans nor do they have any idea how Sabacc is played.

[@nodnarbpower1587]

You obviously didn't watch the film besides this video nor didn't watch the bonus content

[@DarthArachnious]

I was basically referencing that Star Wars fans would have recognized sabacc if they had played it in the movie. But they shouldn't grind the movie to a halt to explain one of the most complicated card games ever devised.

[@fir4e180]

Agreed, the thing about this movie is that they cater TOO much towards the casual audience, that has been a problem in nowadays star wars movies

[@jimb.7523]

3:30 - You misspelled "Wookiee." **ding!**

[@jimb.7523]

Twice!

[@IronShocker77]

TBF Wookiee and Kashyyyk have pretty silly spelling.

[@thatonejedinobodyknowsthen3452]

A job for SinsSins

[@Discosaturn]

Did he do it all for the "Wookie"?

[@thejoker5755]

I honestly always thought it was spelled that way smh. How wrong i am

[@pbdude01904]

14:37 - "Part of the ship, part of the crew! Part of the ship, part of the crew!" Im upset this was not used in the end montage. Lol

[@yarpen26]

Don't you mean "I'm one with the ship, the crew is with me"?

[@Daniel-fi7jp]

Not having Han say "Punch it Chewy"

[@HTPCYMC]

Do Everything wrong with Shrek 5, oh wait you can’t because that movie’s going to be perfect.

[@PoolBoy314]

Two words: Illumination Entertainment

[@Masada1911]

Hey, I've seen you on shibe videos

[@xantherxavier5429]

I concur with Thomas Zhao. Do you really think that illumination studios, the shitheads that made fucking Minions their flagship property, can make a good Shrek movie?

[@echorolls7186]

it was a fucking joke

[@adamk.r5372]

@@ComicNerd1103 Elisa's a boy?

[@UnpopularWaffle]

I just realized that in both Star Wars story’s they kill off a robot that’s important

[@DylanDude]

The Aftermath books did this too with Mr. Bones.

[@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler]

For K2SO, yes. But for the other droid, other than her nav database, she's annoyingly preachy.

[@curtiskretzer8898]

Which indic8s how amazingly blaster proof the less mobile (but more marketable) main franchise's droids seem 2 b,even when they r hit w/🔥 it's barely an inconvenience.(Does that make it"tite"?)

[@DylanDude]

Curtis Kretzer Blaster proof? R2 gets practically obliterated twice in the Original Trilogy, with C-3PO also being blown to bits by a single shot.

[@curtiskretzer8898]

@@DylanDude & easily wrenched back 2gether,unlike oversized rogue 1 droid & the Calrissian pandroid

[@connorwood9211]

Missed the chance to do Everything Wrong With The Star Wars Holiday Special.

[@icymoons]

We shall not speak of that abomination

[@jbvader721]

Do you want the Sin Counter to break again?

[@SomeRandomGuy789]

Ding

[@WangWang-kd8cb]

Hopefully they do it right before episode ix

[@MarcelNL]

I'm NOT going to watch a 6-hour long video on this channel, telling us what's all wrong with that piece of trash. Plus I wouldn't want this guy to have a stroke from all the anger and stress by talking about its details.

[@supremebean-fg5sn]

17:04 I find your lack of Clone Wars knowledge disturbing We knew he was still alive way before this movie came out.

[@goosegg4653]

It's ok he dies for real in rebels anyway

[@supremebean-fg5sn]

Goosegg 46 to be fair he did serve as a major part in the plot for Clone Wars. The show wouldn’t be the same without his arch

[@seanbehnisch6185]

@@supremebean-fg5sn We now have season 7

[@Paulafan5]

Darth Maul surviving being chopped into pieces is as bad as the Holdo maneuver. If he survived that, Mace is 100% alive after a little force lightning and shot out a window.

[@choccake3057]

Goosegg 46 THANKS FOR THAT

[@frankzeppelin]

8:55 Couldn't agree more. This isn't just a problem with the most recent films but it goes back to Episodes 1 through 3. A successful franchise is going to get exploited for anything that a studio thinks it can use to draw audiences. It sucks, but it makes (some kind of) sense from a business perspective so I see why they do it. But in Star Wars it's so much worse. It's like they want to capitalize on any throwaway reference or accident from the original series just to remind people they're watching a Star Wars film. "Hey look, see this character? You're watching a Stars Wars movie! Hey, get that reference? You're a super fan! Make sure you see the next one!" It's really cynical, but it's the studios exploiting the fans. You know what was great about the originals? People didn't love them because they were new Star Wars movies. People loved them because they were good. 1998: what was the clone wars? I don't know, but sounded mysterious and cool as hell. 2018: what was the clone wars? Um, I think you mean '"Attack of the Clones", and it's movie filled with shitty CGI and clunky dialogue about democracy. Can't we leave something to the imagination? Come on Lucas Films, you got crazy budgets, huge screen talents, and a rabid fan base. You can take more risks than any studio ever and you're gonna settle for callbacks over thrills.

[@ErebosGR]

You don't seem to understand how movies get made. No sane producer would take risks with movies that cost hundreds of millions. Why would they take risks when they can put out garbage and those rabid fans will fill the seats anyway?

[@H30-w9t]

Damn that’s a lot of text

[@josephfisher426]

That is partly reflective of the original product. The story wasn't original, just the setting. But the callbacks weren't specific or weren't to stories that were well known, so it wasn't right in your face. And it's fine as a feature; it's not fine when it's pretty much the whole movie.

[@jonathanbethards3689]

A Trash Panda Don’t you get on KZbin to read short stories in the comments section??

[@nicolasriveros943]

well... The Last Jedi took a good amout of risks and people hate it. I mean, don't get me wrong, i get what you're saying but, had you seen how this fanbase acts? is like trying to convince someone that need medicine and vaccines and they refuse it, but then when then get sick, throw their shit on the medics saying is their fault...

[@Quillever]

I just can't understand the logic of including Maul in this movie. He was revived in the Clone Wars, and permanently killed in Rebels. So the vast majority of the movie goers who haven't watched these shows are left wondering how he's still around when the last time they saw he had just gotten bisected by Obi-Wan and fell down a bottomless pit. And it's not like Maul's arc could go anywhere if this movie got a sequel, since he dies in Rebels. Was Disney just planning to have Maul disappear from the future movies with no confrontation or climax?

[@18947ful]

it's just desparation at this point. Disney knows which characters are most beloved by fans of the former EU canon, that's why they got timothy zahn to write a new Thrawn series, in order to fish money from the people who loved thrawn and were furious that Disney retconned him. Same with Darth Maul. People loved him and Disney realized they might get some fans from the EU back and thus increase sales. But I think it's backfiring hard on them, the Thrawn Books weren't near what the old Trilogy had in store for that character and shoving in Maul like that didnt help either. In the end Disney doesn't get that most people from that fan group loved those characters because of how they were weaved into the overall canon, not just because of their names and looks.

[@18947ful]

@Chloe Slade officially everything Disney says is canon is canon. ;) Thats why i am done With star wars since Disney Took over.

[@Quillever]

@Chloe Slade I personally really like Clone Wars(both the 2008 series and the 2003 series), and I think rebels is good for the most part. Everything else Disney has done is really really bad.

[@sheevpalps3846]

@John Doe CW isn’t Disney tho

[@Quillever]

@@sheevpalps3846 They didn't make it but it's one of the few things they said is still canon. Pretty much everything else they didn't make they carted off to Legends, whether it was good or bad. CW is the only major exception as far as I know.

[@okram2k]

I did the math, according to the star wars cannon there are roughly 100 quadrillion sentients on the galaxy. There are around 50 million populated worlds, each with about 2 billion people on it. If even only the top 0.01% of the population could afford fancy rich yachts? I'll put it at a 1:10,000,000,000,000 chance.

[@tayjaytesla1142]

Since we know either of them wouldnt be getting away from the criminal life couldn't we remove all the none criminal yatts from the equation?

[@okram2k]

@@tayjaytesla1142 so... Say a crime rate of 10% and hell, I'm feeling generous, let's also say they stay in the same neighborhood of the Galaxy and cut down to only 1% of crime Lords. 1:10,000,000,000 chance.

[@BartasRapowanie]

The power of dice and refferences to the OT pulled them back together

[@tayjaytesla1142]

@@okram2k damn, well cheers for doing the math

[@travishimebaugh8381]

Would it mitigate circumstances if we propose that Crimson Dawn took over all organized crime on Corellia? It's a major hub for commerce that they would certainly be interested in.

[@angeldiaz762]

"Kilograms, Canadian for pounds."

[@jana31415]

Human for pounds÷2

[@Kyle1227]

Americans..

[@stryx7557]

*Do everything wrong with how the Grinch stole Christmas*

[@davidhong1934]

He did the old one already. New one might not be on DVD yet.

[@robertagu5533]

Well he DID just do the TV version of that

[@jimb.7523]

*MY CHRISTMAS IS NOW COMPLETE. THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENT, JEREMY!*

[@rextyrrano5183]

Parsecs are a unit of distance. The point that he made the kessel run in under 12 parsecs meant that han had to take a dangerous route through heavily guarded space and why am i even typing this since cinemasins won't read this.

[@justjeffrson489]

I read it ♡♡♡

[@Jorge-wg9tq]

I SAW ♡♡♡

[@VideoAmericanStyle]

It seems the movies themselves cannot seem to agree on what they are, though. The dialogue gives this away.

[@rextyrrano5183]

@@vaibhavbagepalli2068 it could be the fastest ship because it's the only one that can outrun the security?

[@mxviii]

@@vaibhavbagepalli2068 The Falcon is the fastest ship because it can make short cuts too dangerous for other pilots to even try.

[@thaddeuswilliams3303]

Darth maul was brought back to life in Star Wars clone wars tv series

[@Paulafan5]

Because they couldn't come up with a good enough original villain of their own so they brought Maul back from the dead for... "reasons". Next, they'll bring back Tarkin from being vaporized on the first Death Star...

[@Germanson3746]

Paulafan5 or like boba fett people actually liked him and thought he deserved more screen time. At least they showed how he survived and made it semi believable. Palpatine on the other hand is just ridiculous

[@AsymmetricalCrimes]

@@Paulafan5 Maul's return actually ended up being great in Clone Wars. All of his arcs were fantastic and his final fight with Kenobi is the best light saber battle of all the TV series.

[@Raayvo]

xGucciSnake stfu u boomer

[@Raayvo]

Paulafan5 you shut up boomer the trilogy fights are better

[@mbanerjee5889]

Did I miss something, why are Han's dice important? Because they are lucky? So Luke, in his last moments, projected himself to his sister to give her dice that her dead husband once gave his ex-girlfriend?

[@KnightsaysNi]

Because Hollywood is full of idiot writers.

[@samuelcasas]

he never used them in any game. must be an all beads. lol

[@TheThejayman32]

The dice appear in one scene in Star Wars. They are just for decoration. I guess the filmmakers forgot the maxim “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”

[@Unknownturtle]

I like that he doesn’t call Emilia Clarke by her characters name in solo, just khaleesi or Targaryen when directly talking about her. He only uses Qi’ra when referencing her

[@EchthelionII]

I watched the movie once and I still don't really know who those people are.

[@louisvictor3473]

@@EchthelionII Shallow characters don't really count as people, do they?

[@EchthelionII]

@@louisvictor3473 I don't know

[@richardk.2959]

This movie is just Han being traumatized for a little more than two hours straight

[@dorisfromage2349]

Princess Leia also pronounces Han's name rhymes-with-ham too, you know. From time to time. Like Lucas hadn't really settled on which pronunciation he preferred until later or something.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Actually, that was a 2nd Unit Director situation (in the original). I have no idea what happened with Billy Dee Williams, though. Then again, BDW wasn't exactly a top notch actor (sorry, Billy).

[@KJ-xx1iy]

The odds of them finding each other is about 0.0009%

[@Xorxfon]

Never tell me the odds...

[@JonathanRodriguez-nz9nw]

+@@Xorxfon perfect

[@thirstyboi7706]

Probably alot lower

[@naturalone6529]

Never tell me the odds!

[@devour_this5192]

Wrong

[@TheJackster01]

Fyi: parsecs are a measurement of distance and plus: the chance that Han and Q'ira met was pretty high. If u look back to Correlia, she said if the get caught, they would be sold to Crimson Dawn or Hutt cartel, so if those are the only two possibilities, that's a 50% chance she would be sold to Crimson Dawn so... 50% chance they meet again. Love had next to nothing to do with it.

[@Makutakanuva]

As a show-watcher, I quite liked the Maul cameo. He was faithful to the characterization that Clone Wars and Rebels have provided him, to the extent that his presence in this film enriches Rebels, a smidge -- 'cause he shows up there without any explanation of what he's been doing since the Clone Wars, but here we have a sensible answer. He's been doing exactly what he did during the war, but adapted to a totalitarian galaxy. He's amassing power, and I can easily imagine that he used his criminal connections to discover the Sith secrets that led him to that temple where he shows up in Rebels.

[@Flippokid]

Agreed.

[@onnixcarmichele3911]

One of the best ideas for a ‘Star Wars Story’ movie that I’ve heard is a film focused on the criminal underworld with an emphasis on Maul and Crimson Dawn. That could actually be a really dark and interesting movie.

[@Makutakanuva]

@@onnixcarmichele3911 I'd be down for that. I'm also of a mind that they could use Maul as the Nick Fury of several otherwise-unrelated anthology films, creating an Avengers-type team-up film for these characters who are all imperiled by some big play Maul's gonna make. It would be a way to give Maul the screentime he deserves without him overstaying his welcome. And also, from a production standpoint, it can't be easy to have a voice actor dub over a live actor's performance in a convincing, natural way, and having a whole movie dedicated to Ray Park voiced by Sam Witwer would probably be quite a challenge.

[@Orgikan]

@@Makutakanuva "without him overstaying his welcome" fraid that ships already sailed.

[@RayMKlll]

Hey that makes a lot of sense!

[@blatherskite3009]

6:19 Last Second-itis. Yep, it's always got to be the very last second these days. Tension! Excitement? Back in 1964 James Bond managed to stop the countdown on a radioactive "dirty bomb" with a comfortable 007 seconds left on the clock. Equally groan-inducing and sin-worthy, but at least it was a number other than 1 for a change :)

[@Glisten456]

Agent 007 diffuses a bomb with 007 seconds remaining. Not 1, but a sin for coincidences *ding*

[@pinkiepikafun]

Did anyone else notice the fact that the "Join the Empire" ad has the "The Imperial March" theme in the background? (2:17)

[@nicholaswatson1098]

Yep my whole theater started cheering

[@Second_of_four]

Yeah, and honestly I thought that was super cheesy

[@VideoAmericanStyle]

Yes, every single person who watched the film noticed that incredibly obvious nod to one of the most iconic movie motifs of all time.

[@sonoftheway3528]

That's just.....wtf

[@grinner13]

The Imperial March is the canon anthem of the Empire, so it's basically like the Star Spangled Banner playing for a US Army recruitment ad, so not that weird.

[@Sparticus03]

Do Everything Wrong With KZbin Rewind 2018

[@ryanreyes7065]

Bobkfirr 123 absolutely everything

[@StoopidMonkeysMomma]

It would break the sin counter lol

[@davidhong1934]

I mean, CinemaWins had done a video for it

[@beezwaxia5749]

I praise you now my lord

[@spirz4557]

Have mercy for the Sin Counter 2.0 !

[@simonjamesodell]

I was literally the only person in the cinema when I saw this. As I sat there alone, solo, watching SOLO, surrounded by empty seats, I thought this movie is not bad it doesn't deserve to fail this badly. It wasn't perfect but it had a lot of good bits and certainly was a lot more entertaining than TLJ.

[@crazycoolclips]

Backlash from TLJ, no one was willing to waste money seeing Solo after the abortion that was TLJ. Kathleen Kennedy is the worst thing to ever happen to Star Wars, she has nearly destroyed the brand with her politics and lack of giving a F___ about the lore and canon of Star Wars.

[@simonjamesodell]

@@crazycoolclips I dunno, I'm starting to think maybe there is a plan, episode 9 can save the day... consider this possibility... Luke is alive and has force lightening. To him a lightsaber is just a toy that he doesn't care about, and when he faces off with Kylo, he will say.. young fool, only now at the end do you understand. Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the dark side! .... well one can only hope right?

[@jameskarg3240]

Kennedy is a rank and file amature, same for her cohort. Disney simply put her in charge just so they wouldnt get sued for BS sexist claim that wpukd have had fhe #MeToo movement literally STORMING the disney parks into oblivion. When the 3rd generation femenists are claiming a newborn male is forewarding the patriarxhy and calling the mother a "traitor", its high time someone ante-up on them and tell disney "if you dont drop these clowns, WE will sue double whatever theyre threatening to sue you for. This cinematic politic bull NEEDS to stop, NOW"

[@barrylyndon5552]

I think TLJ was actually more entertaining. But this was a better movie. This was decent and a bit boring TLJ was exciting and god damn terrible.

[@BeowulfNorther]

totally agree honestly, id rather ham fisted references and love/connection to the originals vs last jedi, where its flat out saying fuck the originals and suck my dick if you want otherwise luke can get a poorly written bit part and we can focus on rose and holdo, the most annoying and badly written characters since jar jar hmm, should we show how luke feels about hans death? i mean its the old main character reacting to the others death.. naaah, we need time to show a drawn out scene of rose reacting to her sister who was an extra, then go off on a pointless casino side quest because the terrible leader wouldnt explain her plan to anyone for no reason, even though poe loves the plan when he eventually hears it, and theyre fucking rebels not a totalitarian military unit that blindly follows orders oh, and ships stop in space when they run out of fuel, not continue at the same speed because its SPACE that makes sense goddamn rian johnson is just a joke

[@liberalimperial3410]

Unpopular opinion but I like solo. I know a lot of elements were heavy handed such as having to know everything that ever happened to Han or whatever but I think it’s a pretty harmless story to tell

[@markrobinson6577]

The white men can jump joke made me laugh soooo hard

[@zpinn8242]

I don't get it. Is that a reference?

[@Snapmare_]

_This is star wars. Don't catch you disobeying the empire_

[@imput_usernameyt3168]

Lol thats halarious

[@imput_usernameyt3168]

Now im terrified

[@imput_usernameyt3168]

Honestly no sarcam

[@TheDeadlyBlueWolf]

And? If Star Wars' recent movies has taught me anything the Empire are pushovers.

[@imput_usernameyt3168]

How can someone be fake? Like a cyborg?

[@TheBrickGuy7939]

You forgot to remove a sin for Duel Of The Fates.

[@ElevenRats]

Having it in this movie defiles Maul

[@damobeck1]

Maul is amazing.

[@joebuck4957]

He removed 3 sins for dual of fates in his sin of Phantom Menacr

[@PyrokineticFire1]

it only gets a sin removed for GOOD use of Duel of The Fates... transparent nostalgic cash grab that reminds you that this is somehow worse than phantom menace would deserve a sin(s) let's agree it's somewhere in the middle and accept 0 sins

[@kamentrainerhorn2073]

He also forgot to remove (or even add) a sin for that Fred the Fish reference during the Battle of Mimban.

[@MTB214]

The story reminds me of a story already used. That the group are trying to steal something for a payoff. In Clone Wars season 4 episode 20 a group of bounty hunters are being paid to protect something. Both have a Chase and fight scene with a train, for something very valuable.

[@theblackbaron4119]

This movie is basically a testimony of what Hollywood misunderstood about the original trilogy. First, Han solo was a beloved character not because Han was a such a great character, but because Harrison ford made/ played him this way and gave it personality. It's a sequel no one asked for and the "exposition" is unnecessary. Han solo didn't really need a motive. Lastly over-sequalized garbage just to make money.

[@phoenixraider42]

it not Hollywood misunderstood about the original trilogy, it about Disney shoving there shit canon down are throats and tell us "deal with it. we own star wars now." and raping the franchise for all that it is worth.

[@danvondrasek]

Imagine an archery bow. Each of the ends would be "Point A" and "Point B", and the bow itself the Kessel Run. Normally, pilots would have to travel across "the body of the bow" per say to use the Kessel smuggling route. What Han did was essentially fly across the bowstring. That meant getting in super close to the black hole at the center, which only a good pilot can manage to do without getting sucked into it. So the closer you can get to it, the more skilled of a pilot you must be. Took most pilots over 20 parsecs to fly it, so 12 is considered impressive

[@DrMattPhillips]

When the sci-fi dystopia becomes a war movie which becomes a heist movie which becomes a gangster movie which becomes a western.. seriously, why does no one ever take issue with this?! You can't be all the genres!

[@bilibiliism]

because that is star war, space wizard/samurai doing western duels in a war. if you are ok with original star wars i see no reason you have issue now

[@DrMattPhillips]

@@bilibiliism Star Wars managed to convey a specific tone in genre though through visual directing. There's a big difference between having war element's, western elements, mafia elements and visually changing the genre tone per so many scenes. Solo doesn't just take inspiration from these genres, the actual shots change from chaotic shaky cam and explosions that you'd see in a War movie, wide moving shots like a heist movie and then a close up of Han's gun and shot between the legs like a Western.. This is very distinctively different.

[@bilibiliism]

are you trying to say han solo shooting greedo scene has the same tone as the scene vedar chock motti? find someone dont know star war, they would not even think they are in the same movie. original star war switches tones all the times and you cannot deny it.

[@please_recharge]

Technically it's a sci-fi dystopia war movie, then a sci-fi dystopia heist movie, then a sci-fi dystopia gangster movie, then a sci-fi dystopia western move. And if you take aware the sci-fi parts of all of those, you still get an incredibly viable movie. Too bad they took a viable idea and made it shit.

[@DrMattPhillips]

@@please_recharge The issue though isn't that they borrowed ideas from specific genres, Star Wars space battles were war inspired and there was a lot of western ideas in the mix but it contained a consistent identity via it's directing and production design, but this movie literally jumps from genre to genre in every way visually through both art direction and the specific directing choices, which is probably because of the directing issues behind the scene. If they did the first movie based on Han Solo working for the Empire and have it as a War based movie, then did a sequel that focused more on the heist and gangster elements and then had the third film be about the Kessel Run it'd have both fleshed things out so it's not like everything is happening so soon and allowed growth and style wise felt more consistent.

[@Twisthiphop]

*NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS*

[@Shawshook]

I feel like Jeremy is slowly spiraling more and more into madness with each EWW

[@jonathanbethards3689]

Excelsa Autem Sure hope so

[@OBroIchain]

He is losing it! Soon he will be uploading his videos from a loony bin

[@SciVias917]

He'll be saved as movies improve. Oh...

[@ZachCremisiSky]

@@SciVias917 he sins questions and statements. He use to sin true sins but now sins stupid shit

[@kylemajerczyk8160]

Excelsa Autem Birdman is getting to him

[@cassuttustshirt4949]

I'm gonna nerd out on a shit movie like this but I do like that the battle scenes in the beginning feature the Imperial Army, the bulk of the forces who did the 'mud and blood' type of fighting typical of a foot-slogging poor bloody infantryman. Stormtroopers were for shipboard duty, small patrols, and critical areas, at least during this era, and through the Galactic Civil War. But having Chewie eat people that's just stupid Also it's not poker it's (poorly represented) Saaboc. And in the old EU, the Kessel run was measured how close you could get to the cluster of black holes (AKA The Maw) and still be fast enough to avoid capture or death by black hole. The Falcon, being one of the fastest craft in hyperspace could actually skirt dangerously close to the the Maw. No Imperial patrol will follow them there, so they can smuggle literal tons of drugs (Just to ruin your childhood dreams, Han and Chewie made their living as high level drug smugglers)

[@OriginalityDaniel]

Ewoks also eat human so to further ruin your childhood after Endor I'm sure those furballs had a helluva feast lol.

[@dDbalL-to7rt]

Seriously??? You know all this but dont know about Dewlanna!!??? The Wookie who basically raised Han while aboard The Trader's Luck... granted its Extended Universe Canon officially. But there's a good chance that a similar character was part of Han's life in this movie Canon... thus explaining Han's affinity for Chewbacca and knowledge of Shyriiwook...

[@cassuttustshirt4949]

@@dDbalL-to7rt Thanks for reminding me! I feel like an idiot, haha. Gonna change the post.

[@lentoturmahub8214]

0dDbalL 1138 Gosh you’re such a nerd lol.

[@cassuttustshirt4949]

@@lentoturmahub8214 Hey, what about me?

[@undertow8910]

this was better than the movie "Everything important in Han's life happened within a week!" classic

[@kcculla]

17:05 Rise of Skywalker bringing back Emperor Palpatine back: *looks over

[@AeroTechie]

This is the comment I came here for

[@chupacabra9357]

Jeremy put way more emotion into this than he ever does.

[@dDbalL-to7rt]

Is this a Geeks and Gamers reference???

[@Ethos711]

The Extended Universe had the perfect answer for the Kessel run parsec thing. But since it actually made sense, Disney decided it had to be thrown out for what, space tentacles? Seriously WTF.

[@mrrp405]

god i can tell how much he loves narrating these, and it's amazing

[@caljohn88]

I'm so glad that this movie confirmed CinemaSins' suspicion that droids are sex bots.

[@TheAdvertisement]

Merry Christmas! I mean... I go solo.

[@davidbuschhorn6539]

So... the *_robot_* made the Kessel Run or did Han?

[@energysynchronized9932]

there's a film theory video about that

[@jonathanbethards3689]

Yes.

[@barrywhittingham6154]

In A New Hope Han claimed that it was the *ship* that did it. He didn't mention if he was the captain at the time.

[@jakeanderson3625]

Han said the ship made the Kessel Run in A New Hope. So, even he admitted his ship made the run vice himself.

[@vorshack8968]

Who cares, this movie sucks.

[@cakeisthebestintheworld]

What's with you and your college girlfriend?

[@ireneuszthesecretlifeofpet3881]

X-MEN

[@firstlast-FcK-YT]

StalkHer

[@enb3810]

It's a running gag...

[@utoresa5193]

What's up with my college girlfriend? Oh that's right she doesn't exist

[@Danae78]

What a line..." Go crazy somewhere else..because we're stocked up here."

[@ThePthompson41]

Danae Lum its “go sell crazy somewhere else because we are all stocked up here.”

[@Danae78]

@@ThePthompson41 that's fine people understood it.

[@Lancea1ot]

Parsecs are a measurement of distance... It’s Star Wars canon

[@arx3516]

Canon! Not cannon! Canon is a word of greek origin wich means law, rule, like "ecclesiastic canon" "canonical gospels". A cannon is just a big gun.

[@TK3TK3]

Kaboom

[@yeahkeen2905]

ARX 351 Jesus Christ he knows it’s a typo.

[@cptTK421]

Maybe. And yet, even tho it has "edited" next to it, the typo is still there. I find that a little funny

[@yeahkeen2905]

cptTK421 I guess that’s funny.

[@99lodewijk]

I mean if there's no Stan Lee cameo, what's even the point?

[@procc2409]

Jeremy always sins Stan Lee cameos.

[@VS-hz8fm]

PirateCat91 fuck off no it isn’t

[@henrygreen2096]

That "Solo" scene should have gotten a sin for every Writer, producer, and director who thought it was a good idea lol

[@angeldiaz762]

Also, this vid should've been named "Wrong with Solo: A Star Wars Story in 12 Parsecs"