WONDER WOMAN and Coping with Paradigm Shifts

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

Hi all! Jonathan here. I'll be on the live chat during the premiere, answering your questions and geeking out with ya! Alan will be on as well, doing the same as @TelekinesisEntertainment. We can't wait to hang out with all of you at the premiere!

[@Aki_the_Sista]

I think you are Awesome

[@jadeperri5183]

👋

[@ace_of_cakes]

@@Auron1Roxas2 dude... wtf. They're biased against all DC characters but they loved wonder woman? Also the point of this video was not to critique the movies or the characters but to explore the themes and how they relate to researched psychological phenomena.

[@secretlyadragon4723]

I was waiting for Wonder Woman!! The head banging in the beginning was so on-point! Wait, let me pause and get some popcorn.

[@LadyAhro]

Definitely don’t do the second since they seem to excuse Male sexual assault 😬

[@Jim-ho3ko]

I wouldn’t mind seeing one on avatar the last air bender the tv series about zuko and his family

[@Marigumilikesart]

Yes please

[@tusharchetal]

Yeahh! There's so much they could talk about from ATLA

[@agenthappypotato868]

Read about this from someone, but I like how the portrayal of lightning bending in The Last Airbender can be read as an allegory for abuse, given how Azula and Ozai like to use it, and that Iroh teaching Zuko how to REDIRECT lightning instead of bend it says a lot about Zuko's path to turning against his abuser, his father.

[@terry-o-brian4333]

I second this

[@Chezka_Ricafrente]

Oh i was about to flip when i saw the first half of this comment until i saw the "tv series" part. I thought you were talking about the movie we do not speak of lol

[@kalarowan3331]

I love the ways that Steve has no problem acknowledging Diana's strengths without making a big deal of it. He doesn't feel threatened or belittled, he just either steps back or steps up to help her do her thing.

[@Thomas-uk5cp]

I mean, shes superhuman. Not really much else he could do at that point 😂

[@d3l3tes00n]

@@Thomas-uk5cp True, but a lot of movies have the dude act weird about a woman having more power.

[@Thomas-uk5cp]

@@d3l3tes00n yes they do. The purpose of that is to force more "girl power" into the scene. A lot of the time they do it by having the guy show skepticism at the womans capabilities, even though that reaction is either entirely reasonable or completely contrived and wouldnt be displayed by anyone. Then theyll proceed to have the female do something completely normal that any functional human being can or something entirely unrealistic (ie, i believe it was atomic blond, where they had the 120lb woman push kick a 250+lb man and send him flying when in reality he would take maybe a half step back). The real problem is most movies dont do believable female action characters. Their interactions with the men are forced caricatures that dont reflect reality or they have them perform over the top feats that are completely ludicrous.

[@d3l3tes00n]

@@Thomas-uk5cp Which is why men need to stop writing & directing women for a while.

[@Thomas-uk5cp]

@@d3l3tes00n no, they just need to stop trying to virtue signal feminism when they do it

[@sarahthehalfling]

The thing about this movie that really speaks to me is that Diana gets to be a badass and a hero while still being feminine and standing for love and kindness. Too often female characters in movies like this are written in ways that deemphasize these more "feminine" values and are written as closed off and tough. Diana is such a welcome departure from that.

[@SplatterInker]

Yep. Now if they could let Male superheroes be kind and gentle and still strong without framing them as wierdos or loosers we'll be getting even further!

[@kaldogorath]

@@SplatterInker What about Iron Man?

[@kaldogorath]

I think there's major contrast between Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel - respectively the best and worst movies of their universes. Captain Marvel is really strong and powerful but she's not "human". She's just a symbol. She's arrogant, she's hard, inflexible. Even though she fights for good, she is a very "manly" character. Little emotion, little change, just a brute. She's not a powerful woman, she's a powerful statue. Stallone, one of the worst actors in history, shows a lot more emotion than she does in this film. (that's not against Brie Larson, just the on-screen portrayal of Captain Marvel)

[@jmarais]

​@@kaldogorath I'm a Marvel fan but I do have to admit that whenever they write for female characters, there's no depth. Scarlet Witch, Captain Marvel, and Black Widow are bad asses but they don't have personalities.

[@duskflower8825]

@@SplatterInker I think Captain America, Superman, and Vision all fit that description well, though you only see it at play a handful of times. I'm thinking especially of Superman in Man of Steel, Captain America in the Winter Soldier and Vision in general. Antman and Spiderman are also very kind and gentle, but they're a little dorkier than the first three.

[@kasiamleczarska9078]

"Don't give people what they deserve, give them what they need. That's how you bring out the best in people" This has to be the most powerful sentence for me in this video. Keep up the good work, guys. Also, love the addition of infographics!

[@multitudeofvoices]

This would be one of the core tenants of my paradigm.

[@samanthah4907]

I'd like to see one for Lilo and Stitch about sisters growing up without parents and Child Services.

[@kaelang12]

Lilo also shows signs of being on the spectrum, which would be very interesting to hear them talk about

[@russianvalkyrie2358]

YES

[@anni1348]

YES, the first Lilo and Stitch Movie is great. The relationship between Lilo and Nani is very interesting, because they have a pretty complicated relationship, they are still sisters, but Nani also is the position of an care taker for Lilo as well and struggles to handle all that on her own (like a single parent). Lilo struggles as an outsider in her class, she's weird and quirky but also very lovely. And I also want to point out that David is great but underrated male Disney character, hes clumsy and all that but always supportive towards Nani and Lilo, without bossing Nani around or forcing her to be with him.

[@RosieSquall]

Tbh, there's not enough of that explored in the movie and it's the most interesting part. Otherwise, it's pretty mediocre.

[@jasmineovo7539]

YES PERFECT FOR THE SHOW!

[@EFraser427]

I especially enjoyed Chris Pine’s acting in that scene with Diana where her world view was crumbling. He was able to admit difficult truths about himself as much as anyone, and you can tell how much it was costing him to accept that fact.

[@efulmer8675]

It was also risky. Steve had to put forth something for Diana to grab onto about humanity, and him in particular, or Diana might have just as much reason to destroy him as much as Ares and the other Germans in the area.

[@ace_of_cakes]

I remember being vaguely upset walking out of theaters after this one because her core message of "I believe in love" was not a message they would ever give a male superhero, and in my head that made her a lesser character. Thankfully, through a number of paradigm shifts, I can now recognize the internalized misogyny I was holding onto and I'm really glad they gave her this core belief and that it springs so naturally from her well-written character arc. Just wish WW84 had continued this arc.

[@EH23831]

I hear ya sister! ✊🏻 I had the same moment when I realised that the director of Little Women (who’s a woman) put Jo in MEN’S CLOTHING when she was trying to get published! Internalised misogyny! Why couldn’t she be feminine and a published author?? I LOVE that WW is powerful yet still feminine... not a quasi man. Women have to claim ALL of ourselves and if we wanna wear make up and heels and still be powerful we can!! 💪🏻🤩

[@wanderingrogue3039]

❤️

[@wanderingrogue3039]

@@EH23831 Hey it's awesome that you relate to a more feminine hero but why bash more quote en quote 'masculine' heroes. Let's support both.

[@EH23831]

@@wanderingrogue3039 I didn’t think I was bashing Jo... just the director’s choice to put her in masculine clothes...which I believe represents internalised misogyny. Jo’s character was not written that way

[@LC-sc3en]

@@EH23831 I am ashamed to say that I haven't seen the Little Women movie.. but as I remember from the book Jo was written as such a tomboy several characters fondly or exasperatedly refer to her as practically male. It might have been a short hand by the director to emphasize how scandalous and male and out of place her behavior was for her period setting and how original period readers would immediately notice the audacity of it. I think it is an acceptable choice to make by the director that is less rooted misogyny and more about communicating a sense of how extremely out of bounds Jo's character is for her gender and class in a way that audiences can immediately pick up.

[@wagnerd548]

I'm glad that they made Wonder Woman strong instead of a sex object. She shows that to be strong doesn't mean you have to give up your femininity but it is something that comes from within.

[@quinnrice3475]

My mother actually wrote a sermon based on when Diana said “it’s not about deserve it’s about what you believe in and I believe in love” because of how much it resonated with her

[@Ikajo]

My mom has written so many sermons based on Disney movies 🤣 She doesn't like action though

[@CactusJ7]

Really? I would like to hear more about what your mom said. I think i would like to hear her sermon. 😁😊

[@johannageisel5390]

This line was also the most important takeaway from this movie for me. I so often see people argue things from the "who deserves something?" point of view, particularly Americans. It is offputting. I like to see things from a systemic POV. Not "whom can I blame?" but "what needs to happen to fix the problem?".

[@Spoka17]

I would love to hear it, is there any way to view?

[@wolfofmercury7518]

That’s awesome

[@NinaDelvasto]

For the empowerment moment, when she literally goes into "no man's land" and owns it, it reminds me of Eowyn in Return of the King when the Nazgul tells her "No man can kill me" and she just goes like "well, I am no man, so fuck it". Those moments are so poweful to me and speak to my soul

[@St4rryN1ght760]

I have this vivid memory of Diana giving the same response as Eowyn. I swear it I can see and hear it clear as day. Was it jus a case of Mandela Effect? Did I happen to see a version that was later reshot? Or was I simply recalling and remixing Eowyn’s line?

[@Krendall2]

@@St4rryN1ght760 I'm almost certain you imagined it. While the sentiment is there symbolically, I can't see Diana making a quip like that at that moment.

[@erikbjelke4411]

@@Krendall2 And what I love about it is that it's NOT about "I am no man," it's about "I have superpowers and magic armor and weapons, I can help so dammit, let me!" Steve lobbed in that softball when he said "This is No Man's Land, that means no MAN can cross it," but he continues by saying "that's not what we're here to do." And that's when Diana chooses to act, in this time and place, because it's important to her to do so. It feels more honest, more true to the character of Wonder Woman.

[@beingbeckeroni]

YES. That’s what got me SOBBING. What more appropriate place for Wonder Woman than “no man’s land.” ❤

[@AzaStark]

I didn't fully understand the no-man's scene the first couple of times but when i did I actually just started crying so hard because she wasn't going over there for any other reason other than kindness. She did what she did in the no-man's land simply because she was kind. And because she wanted to help the people who were helpless.

[@HippiMikki]

I love the way that "NO MAN's" but it was a WOMAN's :)

[@lemondropjoe8234]

My favorite line in the movie is when Charlie is going to leave and she says "Who will sing for us?" It makes me tear up everytime. She paid attention enough to him to know what to say to him.

[@NewplayerXL]

Another reason for why does that battlefield scene feel so satisfyingly climactic is the HUMONGOUS buildup. From her walking down that building's stairs in London, sword and shield in hand and asking "where's the war?" and watching as the landscape slowly changed, and they were seeing more and more the effects of the war, from the kid selling newspaper to the first line, and everything inbetween. GOD, for me the climax was stepping out of the trench and no buildup could top that for the end fight.

[@revraybrown]

I agree. The god fight did not top it. It felt like no stakes. Let down on the last 1/4 of the movie. Guys, would you be interested in talking structure? Like here when emotional climax and physical climax don’t arrive together?

[@DaDunge]

She treats war like a game and she kills people on a whim. First time I saw the movie I had to turn it off during the battlefield scene. I found it deeply offensive to make something so glorifying war on the centenary of such a tragic conflict.

[@a.m.s6611]

especially after the almost anti-climax of killing who she thought was Aries

[@JuriAmari]

@@christophermichael6844 this! It’s one thing to have physical stakes but another to have spiritual ones. She could’ve easily dropped everything she was raised in and assumed all the bad things Ares and even her mother has told her about humans. But she’s seen firsthand proof of the good that she’s believed in all her life even in the face of terrible evil and she hangs onto it in that moment.

[@laurajaynenolan2149]

I actually cried when we saw the Amazons fighting. I had never really seen women portrayed as incredibly strong and not in a comedic way and also stunning and feminine but not overly sexualised either. It made me feel strong and I was just overwhelmed with emotion haha I literally thought, is this what it’s like to be a man, like is this how men feel when watching films?

[@laurenceperkins7468]

Maybe? Though as a man I can tell you that most of us get that vibe out of any desperate battle against overwhelming odds. Doesn't much matter if the badass fighters trying to punch above their weight are men or women. Heck, even a sparrow attacking a hawk to defend its nest is inspiring. Remember: a person doesn't have to look like you to be a role-model.

[@TGPDrunknHick]

@@laurenceperkins7468 agreed. in fact up until the last few years I'd never even thought about it. it was just rooting for the underdog. I'd also like to point out that powerful film figures male or female have been around longer than I've been around. you never had to look far. this doesn't discount peoples experiences but, it feels like a lot of people have only just come into the film scene. thus a completely new experience.

[@wiiink]

the amazons could have been such a better representation of strong women, I absolutely hate how they changed their backstory. In Greek mythology the amazons were a group of ordinary women who simply didn't want to be abused and controlled by their husbands anymore so they killed them and banded together and created their own society, conquering towns and liberating other women in the same situation. The movie changed them from just normal women to being literal sex slaves given to men by the gods as a bribe/distraction to stop fighting, and when the amazons attempted to revolt they couldn't even do that and had to have Zeus step in and save them. Why.

[@Beenevolence]

Tbh I just like the battles, I like the characters, I am a history nerd specialised on conflict and I like seeing battles with anyone, they dont even have to be human I just analyze the tactics

[@eshbena]

@@laurenceperkins7468 Maybe not, but when you've spent your life only seeing men being allowed to be heroes, it's an amazing feeling to see women able to fight and not be reliant on a man to save them. If every movie you'd ever watched your whole life showed men as helpless creatures that needed to be saved by a strong woman, you'd have a skewed image of yourself and if you lived in a society that placed women above men, preferring them for jobs, for education, while ridiculing men as being weaker, dumber, and less capable, then maybe you'd understand what seeing that scene meant to us.

[@AiraKoriTenchi]

I remember walking out of this movie, crying like rarely any other movie made me cry. Back then I believed that I was just overwhelmed with this beautiful, amazingly done female representation, which is partly true. But now I'm thinking that it's her realizing that people are bad and selfish and will kill each other (or rather let people kill each other) for the most disgusting reasons, and still being able to love them. Because honestly I struggle with that. I see the news and everything that happens, and the hate and greed I can just never understand, and I often despair over it. But she found the strength to see more, to see the good things in the middle of war... So maybe it was my subconciousness trying to tell me that life is worth it and there is good in people, and you just have to help them being good.

[@classicambo9781]

I understand that perfectly. We see awful things, truly awful things that people do to one another and then the next job can be a selfless loving situation where people do things to help just because they feel compelled to. What makes one depraved and the other a saviour? Why bother when ultimately it feels like more hurt and pain is inevitable and yet humans do, again and again. Keep your eyes and mind open to seeing good or the crap will bury you. Keep loving and seeking to understand.

[@jeffreysmith236]

the real problem is you are watching the news. They deliberately focus and magnify the bad and ignore the good. When the news reports good things their ratings drop and their revenues drop. So they do not.

[@RandomKai27]

I thought the decision to play Ares like a cartoon was intentional. He's doing so much action and emotion (Shouting and lighting), but his words and ideas are hollow; meanwhile Diana is doing so little (whisper and blocking), but her words and ideas mean SO MUCH its the emotional climax of the film. I thought the contrast between their actions and ideologies were so deliberate, because the rest of the movie was so good it felt weird to think it "dropped the ball" at the climax, instead they handled the ball in an unexpected way. As cheesy as Ares sounds in the final battle, I rationalized that that's just what "Gods" sound like when they talk; overly dramatic to emphasize their importance, but predictably one-dimensional to reflect their identity as a personification of a "single" concept (like War in this case). With no greater motivation than "God of War hates humans", I think that's the BEST way to play this type of character. Humans are complex creatures capable of having different ideas and emotions. Gods by contrast are actually pretty "basic", one-dimensional and single-minded. Ares is the God of War, therefore he can ONLY conceive humans as beings who wage war. So really, Ares only sounds boring because he's SUPPOSED to in contrast to Diana, to better to reflect that Diana's complex views triumphs over Ares' simple views.

[@yanadnadya]

Rly nice point!

[@agenttheater5]

I never thought of that, great reading

[@wiiink]

idk I think they shouldn't have had Ares be a character at all. The whole movie Diana is so adamant that the war is Ares's doing and she hadn't had any character development throughout any of the movie so when she questions her beliefs and wonders if humans aren't all inherently good it would have made for a better ending instead of a cgi battle imo. Plus in actual Greek mythology the Amazons worshipped Ares because they're warriors and the queen of the amazons literally had a friends with benefits relationship with him and they had a daughter together, Diana's mother, so it makes no sense to have the amazons be against him.

[@tracy4290]

@@wiiink I think you're missing that Diana IS questioning her beliefs; Ares is trying to talk her into completely rejecting ALL of them and joining him. Ares has been manipulating people, so he's arguably a "character" (an individual, as well as a concept), but perhaps you mean you don't think his face should have been seen? Also, it's important to note that Greek mythology evolved even after it was written down, so there are a LOT of different versions of Greek mythological stories. As there are many different comic book versions. One of the interesting things is that Ares is the God of War, and yet there's Athena, the Goddess of TACTICAL War. That contrast is useful. The concept of war evolved even during the ancient Greek period, so the Amazons' rejection of him is not unreasonable.

[@lewisvanatta639]

@RandomKai27 I agree with what you are pointing out; another example of this is the Goua'uld "Gods" in the series "Stargate SG-1": they'd talk like this, then Col. O'Neill would typically hang a lampshade on it with a snarky response. (which often included a "Oh fer cryin out loud!")

[@sarahogborn8024]

I just absolutely love Chris Pine’s delivery of “it’s not about deserve! It’s not about that-it’s about what you believe.” I’ve rewatched that scene so many times and it gets me every time. His acting in this film is top notch imo

[@Christina-xc7on]

I really love Chris Pine in this movie. He's my favorite Hollywood Chris.

[@kemanorel3110]

It's unfortunate how little work Chris Pine seems to get because he's a legitimately fantastic actor. There's far more attention given to Chris Pratt and Chris Evans, out of the Chrises.

[@bennyton2560]

@@kemanorel3110 srl stop casting Chris Pratt already

[@Tracy-xe9zu]

My biggest paradigm shifts were realizing the relationship with my father was extremely abusive (he was a narcissist and had been gaslighting me for as long as I can remember), and when I was diagnosed with depression. Learning that my life and my pain weren't normal and that I didn't have to live that way anymore was such an indescribable relief.

[@Chubbyfairy]

I feel this! I have been through a lot of abuse in my life starting at a very young age all the way up to middle school and I would have flashbacks and recurring nightmares of those times but i just thought it was normal but when I told my therapist she diagnosed me with PTSD which honestly gave me a lot of relief because it made sense. Also I’m sorry you had to go through a abusive father mine was too but I hope your doing better!

[@Overseer2579]

Glad you were able to start finally healing :)

[@undetectablevirus8775]

You guys should do Coraline if you haven’t already! The Other Mother’s way of almost taking control of Coraline is very interesting and I think it’ll be a great cover for you guys!

[@marialife6277]

Yes please 🥰🎊

[@galactic_worm6393]

yass, its my fav movie!

[@undetectablevirus8775]

@@galactic_worm6393 agreed!

[@lucyc4948]

YES my favorite pg movie!!! I love coralline so much I have read the book over ten times!!!

[@B1onde_Lady]

Oooh I like that idea. How manipulative Other Mother was.

[@Evanarix]

Everytime I watch your videos I'm left with the thought "strive to be a person Jonathan and Alan would be proud of"

[@anormalguy511]

And that means to be a good person

[@Overseer2579]

Nice!

[@1969crocodil]

please do soul sometime, it's a really well made movie

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

Totally will!

[@tiffanydening4301]

@@CinemaTherapyShow YESSS

[@alex17272]

Awwww hell yeahhh

[@boyax2267]

Yessssssssss

[@cherewright6939]

Yes yes yes yes yes!!!!

[@MewsView]

I love that in those moments of power we see in the no man's lad scene, the power and strength comes from her defending, protecting, and standing strong. She's not attacking them, she's protecting those around her and herself. There is power in standing your ground.

[@ais8332]

"I'd rather try to understand than to hate even if I'm on verge of dying." Is words was told to me by a really wise person

[@onethirst63]

Something interesting about the Wonder Woman movie: I've noticed before it can be a common theme in super hero movies where the villain is trying to convince the hero that humans aren't worth it. Usually though, the hero concludes that humans do deserve a hero. Diana sees the reality, both good and bad, and concludes that it's not about deserving, it's about love. She draws this conclusion in a moment when she has every reason to just say they don't deserve to be saved; Steve just died, her worldview has been shattered, WWI was pretty pointless. When this movie came out in theaters I was in the part of the yearly Bible reading plan where Jesus is crucified. People are literally making fun of him, mocking his pain while he dies. There's a lot of parallel of people not being deserving but being loved.

[@laurenbaker1318]

Amen

[@multitudeofvoices]

Absofreakinglutely. And this movie did such a great job iterating that truth in a way that penetrated so many minds. Also, Jesus is the OG sacrificial character. He’s the model everything else aspires to.

[@Monicalia]

I liked this movie because her intentions weren't revenge-driven, like Batman or Spiderman. She just wanted to help people. edit: yes I typed Superman at first, I didn't notice it as I was typing, my bad. Superman wasn't really revenge-driven. Also I do not think these revenge-driven stories are worse or that Wonder Woman is better. I simply say I like the different approach and that superhero doesn't have to have a tragic backstory to be willing to help others.

[@DaDunge]

People being people on one side of the war. She had no problem with putting conscripted soldiers in the ground just because they happened to be on the opposite side as her boyfriend.

[@submissiveproviderstboth9485]

Superman would NEVER seek revenge 💔

[@swagwanhyung8413]

@@submissiveproviderstboth9485 this is why i loved Smallville... it is Superman but he wasn’t perfect.. he took revenge and violent but learned quickly... the difference between the young Smallville version to the orig Superman is what made me like the story.

[@EH23831]

I loved that WW is strong and powerful but still completely feminine. Too often if women want to be strong (depicted as such or in real life) they are required to be quasi men. Bothers me immensely that we can’t be both powerful and feminine - it’s like people can’t wrap their tiny minds around powerful women!

[@wanderingrogue3039]

@@EH23831 Totally :) Compassion beats hate was the message of her movie after all. Still a fan of heroes with more attitude like Cap Marvel though.

[@c1nnamodoll]

22:13 made me recognize a paradigm shift in myself. i came out as transgender nearly three or four years ago now. i was so insecure for so long to do _anything_ "feminine", i clung to the "masculine" things that i do already in an obsessive manner. even before i came out i _had_ to have my hair short or i'd throw a full crying fit. now, ive been growing my hair out during quarantine and i get a lot of joy just washing it and brushing it, because it's fun to do ! and i feel so stupid for being insecure about it being "feminine" to care about my hair ! it's still not incredibly long, about beck oliver length, and i still need to work out my own personal knots (pun intended), but it's such a big step away from "my hair needs to be short so people will assume i am male or i'm going to have nightly breakdowns about it". thanks for helping me understand my brain and be even more comfortable changing my views ! :,)

[@amyp4985]

Looking forward to seeing Cinema Therapy in 2021!

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

Thank you Amy!

[@-r-ontheground4644]

@@CinemaTherapyShow same here good job as always!

[@avah7260]

I remember when this came out and I went to go see it in theaters with my family. At the scene where the Amazon’s come around the cliff on the beach. My mom and I were in tears because we’ve never ever seen women portrayed that way in an action movie before. I’ve never come out of a theater with that much of buzz because for the first time in my life a female protagonist in an action film wasn’t sexualized. Not once did I roll my eyes or feel uncomfortable because of how she was shown or treated. This movie is refreshing and makes you feel like a badass.

[@imaginativeinks4143]

You neeeeed to rewiew ATLA (Avatar: The Last Airbender

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

We get that a lot, lol. If we ever cover TV than we will for sure.

[@imaginativeinks4143]

@@CinemaTherapyShow Yea I would love that. I'm new sub and I love the concept of the channel

[@dianalopez130]

@@CinemaTherapyShow believe me you're missing out if you haven't seen Avatar the Last Airbender and it's sequel Legend of Korra! The world building, the lore, the psychological complexity of characters are on 🔥🔥🔥 (no pun intended)

[@pills-]

@@CinemaTherapyShow Seriously, though. Even if you don't cover TV, the television series ATLA is still worth watching (and, more controversially, so is The Legend of Korra sequel). I'm speaking this as a grown man. It addresses some serious and complex issues, without losing it's "saturday morning cartoons" feel.

[@kenetabansi5016]

@@pills- that is just awesome and I know this reply is like a month late but I just want to say as some one who disliked LOK and hand no interest in it when it first came back thanks to it being on Netflix I rewatch and it really is a beautiful piece of media. And thankfully I think thanks to the Netflix debut LOK is good is a less a controversial opinion now a days. There are still unnecessary haters but like every sequel has those

[@nesaia5]

I had my paradigm shift when a therapyst finally told me I'm not struggeling to handle my life because I'm incompetent, instead my father and some of his siblings show many characteristics of beeing narcissists and gashlighters. This really pulled the rug out under my feet and I'm still asking myself from time to time who coud I have become, if I hadn't to deal with my family... Thanks guys for your awsome clips and the excellent movie choices... Little Women, Tangeld and the Garbage Person- Wolfy- Sparkles- Saga were eye openers to me and I will def. recommend your channel to my therapist. Keep it up!

[@danielvalerio9504]

I used to want to be a filmmaker and I'm a huge film nerd, but I'm currently applying to grad schools in clinical psych - I'm so glad I found a channel that combines both of my passions so seamlessly, thanks guys!

[@EtamirTheDemiDeer]

Best of luck to you!

[@j4242]

I love love love that they made a “strong female character “ that also embraces the feminine, not just the masculine. So nice to see that we are breaking out of that trope for women And men characters alike. Great movie. I fell in love with Gal and Chris; brilliantly cast and directed.

[@TheSailorTenjou]

The scene where Diana goes into No-man's Land was so powerful to me was because she turned hopelessness into hopefulness. Everyone would agree that this feeling of hopefulness is quite hard to achieve for someone who has been in the trenches, figuratively or literally.

[@VoidicHerald]

As a young man, hoping to start a family soon, I'm playing this for each and every daughter I have. I want my girls to have a role model that is beautiful without arrogance, strong without callousness, and kind without weakness

[@Pippa87]

Hey guys: would it be ok for me to use parts of your films for teaching in secondary school (that’s ages 11-16 in the uk)? The topics you cover and the way you cover them: I think they’d really help the girls with what’s going on in the world right now. Actually- have you thought about expanding into short 10 min films for schools?

[@sonorasgirl]

Commenting so maybe they see this! Cause yeah. It’s rough.

[@Saphius-]

Idk you great of a teacher you are but I think this idea is pretty great! It's always nice to have teachers who care about their students!

[@Deja_Yu]

Commenting so they see this!

[@EyeGlassTrainofMind]

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[@aryapramod5512]

This seems like a great idea! Maybe you can also make the kids watch the video based on Inside Out because it can relate to them more(Teenagers as well)

[@Musiclover-tm5es]

You guys actually played a big part in my paradigm shift with the Villain Therapy of Frollo and Spiritual Abuse... I had a big breakdown realizing I had been spiritually abused a little bit by me, most of it was me, but as a result of harmful things I had been taught.

[@mangotrees8026]

I would really really like to see y'all do Soul!! It's such a cute movie and I think it would be good for reviewing

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

We absolutely will!

[@melofy-vibes]

@@CinemaTherapyShow yay!

[@fizzify3000]

@@CinemaTherapyShow can you review Coraline (2009)? It would be interesting to see your take on the parenting vs manipulation in that film

[@Ashley-dt7tv]

@@CinemaTherapyShow Ooooooh

[@Mububban23]

Every frame and moment of the No Man's Land scene is pure perfection. Powerful without being sexualised. So inspiring. I absolutely love this scene and it never fails to give me goosebumps.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

"Diana climbing the ladder and becoming Wonder Woman" still gives me goosebumps and brings tears of joy to my eyes every time I see it. To me, this is *THE* "becoming the super hero" moment in film. More than any "I'm Batman," more than any "Superman in _the outfit_ for the first time," more than "I am Iron Man," more than "with great power comes great responsibility." This is the cinematically perfect archetype of this moment. (Perhaps all the different Superman, Batman, and Spider-Man "origins" in film over the past 40 years have made each of those heroes' moments slightly less impressive, too.) John Williams' Superman Theme, being heard for the first time as Clark becomes Superman in the 1979 Superman is close - but I feel like that is as much Williams' music as it is the visual and storytelling moment (maybe more - Williams has a way with that.) THIS moment, in THIS movie, doesn't need the music. It is powerful solely on storytelling, character, and visuals. I grew up in the '70s/'80s. To me, Christopher Reeve *was* Superman. Adam West then Michael Keaton were Batman. And Lynda Carter was Wonder Woman. Christopher Reeve will always be Superman. Adam West and Michael Keaton have serious competition in Christian Bale. But Gal Gadot is now Wonder Woman to me. Also, the cliche dodge of "That's no man's land. It means no man can cross." helps. They could have easily gone with the LotR-like "I am no man" (Which was powerful when it was said, but now is cliche) but Patty didn't. And I'm so glad.

[@Sam-sg1ed]

Yeah every time i watch the movie this scene gives me the chills and i watched like 10 times already

[@acelovesdiyschristopher7023]

Thank U! I've been saying the I am no man shtick has become so cliche.

[@dolliehoraney6426]

when she turns into Wonder Woman, all I could think was when Eowyn says "I am no man" and then stabs the Witch King in the face in Return of the king. It was so powerful to see a woman BE so powerful, that I cry when I see either of those scenes no matter how many times I watch them.

[@JasmineSmith-vt2jc]

I loved this movie and you encapsulated some of the reasons why really well. The scene where she becomes Wonder Woman always brings tears to my eyes and I could never explain why but I think you explained it well. Because as a woman it is powerful and moving to see a woman portrayed so strongly without sexualizing her .

[@_monomorph_1411]

Exactly. I LOVE Wonder Woman so much because we finally have a fully- rounded female character that’s capable of leadership and bravery while also still being feminine and not ‘masculinized’ to make her more palatable for male viewers. The no man’s land scene gives me chills. Even the framing is different like they pointed out. The focus of the shot is what’s INSIDE her chest instead of what’s ON it. THAT is empowerment.

[@loltadynicneni913]

0:11 the psychological dissection is wonderful but these moments? oh boy, *that* is why I'm here. and I want to be a director or a therapist one day.

[@Earthpsalm]

I don't think I will ever get enough of this. You guys make me feel like I'm hanging out with my brother and my best friend. Staying up until midnight talking about all of the facets of the movies we love and watch was a staple in my 20s. This channel is awesome and makes me feel less alone in these COVID times.

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

I love this and relate to it so much. So glad we could bring this to you. What wonderful memories.

[@grumpypurplesloth7950]

"This whole life is meant for us to learn from each other, to grow from each other and to love each other. And if we're not doing that, then we need a paradigm shift, as we're screwing everything up". I don't know why this brought tears to my eyes, but it did. Thank you for that.

[@taz2906]

"This whole life is meant for us to learn from each other, grow from each other, and to love each other. And if we aren't doing that then we need a paradigm shift cause we're screwing everything up." I need written across my wall so I read it every day. Also I love you guys and your videos always make my week. Keep doing amazing things.

[@andrewmckinley8825]

Love this analysis. My favorite part about the final battle in WW is that the moment Diana chooses love as the foundation of her new paradigm Aries’ hatred bounces off of her as ineffectually as the weapons he hurls at her. She essentially catches and throws his own hatred back at him rather than absorbing (internalizing) it (as symbolized by the lightening), and he is defeated ultimately by his own power.

[@amberr.9631]

I’d honestly love to see you guys take a look at Perks of Being a Wallflower, it has really cool filmmaking and really good depth that deals some big issues.

[@fairysdream7]

One of my fav movies 😭

[@krimzonghost1987]

Oh, wow. I didn't even know that book had a movie. A good friend of mine suggested I read that book a while back and let me borrow his copy. It was such a deep and impactful story that I definitely think Cinema Therapy would get a very good episode out of.

[@skyejacques]

That movie was too deep and painful. Made me cry. Yeah. Also, All The Bright Places

[@bennyton2560]

oh there's A LOT of trauma to unpack then

[@thecakeisalie652]

00:24:00 "We don't have all the answers... I learn a lot from Allan... We learn from you guys in the comments." You two are so sweet to us watchers. Thank you, gentlemen. Your videos are purely happy-making soul food.

[@m.g.2608]

Told my mom ( A psychologist who doesn't enjoy movies as much) about your channel and she's just as interested as me!! Thank you for providing not only funny commentary, but REAL examples for someone like me to understand.

[@summergirl4567]

The last several days with everything happening in the US capitol, maybe even for years now, my belief in the innate goodness of people just keeps being pummeled at, that watching this made me cry at several different points. When my friends, family members and community seem to be on a steady path of radicalization and compromise on basic morals of compassion and care for others, holding onto faith that people can be reasoned with is incredibly difficult. I'd ask for advice, but for now I'd just like to thank you for reminding me of how good and full of hope this movie really was. Maybe I'll watch it again and it'll help

[@derschmiddie]

First! :D Also please please please have a look at the lego-batman-movie. It deals with a magnitude of psychological issues. Keep up the good work, love your show.

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

Lego Batman may be the best Batman.

[@AnaQuinzelFleck]

Yes!! I love the batman Lego!!

[@lifeontheledgerlines8394]

That's a hilarious and underrated movie, I've watched it so many times lol

[@kryxena]

@@CinemaTherapyShow It totally is!

[@soldiaz7261]

That’s one of my all-time favorite movies

[@Roseforthethorns]

The first time I saw Diana go over the top, I cheered. Every time since, I have beamed while I cried. We almost never get to see women like this, in a way that is so strong and determined in such a clear, blockbuster sense. The image isn’t on her legs or chest or ass. It’s a moment of pure empowerment and a claiming of identity. I want to embody the same principles as Diana.

[@antoinetteserrano3082]

It’s just amorous love but REAL respect that Steve shows Diana.

[@camilasolistorrez5042]

Watching this really brought home a quote I read somewhere a long time ago "Treat people not as what they are, but as what they could be" Everyone can be bad, but each and every one of us has the potential to do good. And the way we treat each other can influence how we see ourselves and what we believe we are capable of. If you believe someone can be good, do good, and mean well and treat them as such, they will believe they can, and will be empowered to choose that for themselves.

[@halfstayed]

Getting to learn something with my favorite movie? I'm so excited for this it's unreal!

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

Awesome. We hope you enjoy it!

[@alannar6189]

One of the most wonderful things about this movie is that after watching ten years of men being the super heros, i got to see a woman be amazing and strong and feminine and fight back and so many things, and it made me feel so strong and like i could be that

[@fugithegreat]

I'm glad to see the rapid growth of this channel. It immediately became one of my favorites, and I can't wait for what's coming from you guys in 2021.

[@lauraberg6272]

I remember watching this film in tears at several points. It makes a lot of really smart observations on paradigm shifts, as you said. I reminded me of how the church at large sometimes creates converts, "if we just convert them, then they'll do a, b, and c, and won't do x, y, z, anymore", and then reality sets in. We can't just blame the devil or "beat the sheep" by yelling at people in faith communities. Instead we go through learning from each other and being people that can learn and grow.

[@jessieBird96]

The line when Diana says "It's not about deserve, it's about what you believe. And I believe in Love." Reminds me of the Darkest Night arc when the remaining good guys turn a handful of different black lanterns by giving them rings from the other lantern corps and Diana is chosen by the pink lantern corps because of her overwhelming capacity for love 😊😊

[@cypress8111]

Wonder Woman is great! It really shows a woman being strong and still being able to fall in love with a man who is arguably not as strong in a sense. Plus it's just cool in general. Diana has to leave her world behind for the greater good and I think that it really shows the aspects of what it takes to be a hero, like Captain America who used his own body to cover a bomb. True heroism!

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

Straight up! We'd love to see that crossover!

[@MadisonAiello]

Yes! I agree with everything you said. And i also think it’s great that they showed a very strong, bad ass women being able to find love. And that Steve doesn’t care that she’s stronger than him. He just loves her for her. We’re constantly being told by society that men don’t like strong women. And it’s a good thing for young women to see that that’s not true. They should never change who they are so that men like them. They will find someone eventually that loves them for them and doesn’t care that they’re strong and independent.

[@H0lyMoley]

I have a slightly different take - and bear in mind I liked this movie a lot. ALL of her actions are dictated by her relationships with men or male characters. Literally all of them. Except one, which I'll get to. Wonder Woman stays on an island for years, possibly millenia, exclusively amongst women (how time works isn't exactly clear in this movie.) At no point is she tempted to leave and hunt for Ares. What changes her mind? A guy. She's a living weapon against Ares (a male figure) created by Zeus (just about the biggest patriarch in history) and unquestioningly accepts this role despite not knowing the truth about it until late on in the movie. When she does learn the truth, it doesn't affect her actions. (This might be the most frustrating thing about her character to me. The moral that she's learned - and this is spelt out in a way too on-the-nose way at the end - really has no effect on anything that actually happens in the movie.) She never questions Steve's account of the war, never really shows any interest in it (which admittedly is understandable considering she accepts the whole thing as the work of Ares, so any other causes are irrelevant to her), never until the end thinks that Steve himself or his allies might be "corrupted" by Ares. She basically spends the entire movie not questioning stuff she really should be questioning. And again, I get the concept of a "paradigm". I just wish that all of her actions weren't motivated entirely by her relationships with male characters. That one exception, by the way? Her choosing to rescue the villagers. I think there's no coincidence that this is one of the scenes that's most fondly remembered. That, and it just looks freakin' awesome. But it's the one time she appears to be an actual character, not just some macguffin for moving the plot forward.

[@H0lyMoley]

As for Captain America... oh boy. Can I say that "The First Avenger" is a really bad movie? A group of my friends were moving away after the place we worked in shut its doors, so we went to see a film. What was meant to be a heart-warming goodbye turned into one of those shared experiences of "That was pretty much unwatchable, but at least we can laugh afterwards at how bad it was". Cap is a suicidal maniac in this movie! We actually counted the times he tried to kill himself (we came up with six, but we probably missed at least one or two) including that hilarious bomb scene. Maybe it wouldn't have been so bad if they didn't score everything with a giant orchestral flourish... but no. That wasn't in any way inspiring. It was actually kinda disgusting. "You have someone who's clearly suicidally depressed and mentally ill? Send 'em off to war!" Yep... not a fan of this movie. Not even slightly. Although the one I really feel sorry for is Hugo Weaving, whose entire direction was "scowl". He went from Agent Smith and V for Vendetta to this? Ouch. Just ouch.

[@DaDunge]

What greater good? All she does is enter a war which she has no reason to be in and join a side based on nothing but the fact that a guy she met was from that side. And then proceeds ti start killing conscripted citizens from the other side.

[@mujdahakime2345]

A channel with two guys who are not afraid to cry when moved and who talk about the strength in loving others and ourselves despite our shortcomings. I needed to see this.

[@filososabke]

One of the rare times I wish I could like twice! Good analysis of the only DC movie I like. A superhero who actually looks around and notices the people she is saving and what destruction does to them. Most other superhero movies destroy A LOT, and then just leave the little people to clean up the mess. But you walk away from this movie with a sense of balance, like you said.

[@keriwebb6988]

I know it's a "Doctor Who" line, (11th Doctor), I love it and it goes with this because he says "We all change, when you think about it, we're all different people all through our lives, and that's okay, that's good, you gotta keep moving, so long as you remember all the people you used to be. I will not forget one line of this, one day, I swear."

[@shambhavitripathi6124]

There's also an element of mental health here as one of the soldiers had PTSD and she actually starts understanding that humans have weaknesses.

[@zionmeier2531]

This series brings me so so much joy! I can’t even describe it, I just feel so comforted and safe watching this

[@thenotsodaringdevil]

I really love this channel. I've been on my own mental health journey the last couple of years and movies have been a huge part of that. They've helped me cope and given me outlets when I needed them. So this channel combines two of my favorite things in life: learning about your mental health, getting better, and watching movies.

[@emotrxsh1219]

"if you don't have a paradigm shift when youre an adult then youre doing it wrong" me who had an earth shattering shift when i was 14 and almost lost all faith in everyone around me.

[@danthiel8623]

Well then

[@lilhonni]

May I ask what it was?

[@emotrxsh1219]

@@lilhonni Found out that a lot of people I trusted were lying about a lot of things and a lot of them ghosted me soon there after

[@SailorStudent]

Awesome, you're doing Wonder Woman! She's my favorite super hero. 😍💕

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

Diana rules!

[@SailorStudent]

@@CinemaTherapyShow For real! Hands down the best.👏 🤗

[@JasmineSmith-vt2jc]

my favourite too

[@SailorStudent]

@@JasmineSmith-vt2jc Sweet, Team Wondy! 🙌🙅

[@amorfatikhb]

this film is one of my favorites; diana is easily my favorite hero. the way she always sees the goodness in people and always chooses to help is unparalleled to me. i kept thinking about diana’s paradigm shift/bias all these years and thought that the inclusion of ares at the end was a hindrance to it. took away her realization. like hey, here’s yet another ‘grey’ antagonist to have the final battle with (i’m thinking about how often final battles are with meaningless robots or the like). but you guys’ commentary definitely gave me more perspective to reconcile that it still happened and it’s still as powerful.

[@morgand.3809]

This has left me with lots of questions about non-traumatic paradigm shifts. I mean, they are less likely to be exemplified by cinema, because, you know, you gotta have some drama in movies, right? In real life, though, those are what we're likely to face more often, aren't they? But I'm guessing they're not as easy to pinpoint.

[@EH23831]

Yep! I had one the other day when I realised I had internalised misogyny when I accepted that women had to be masculinised in order to be taken seriously or be strong (I was watching an analysis of costuming in the latest Little Women- the director put Jo in men’s clothing when she was trying to get published and I realised I accepted that that is what she had to do to be taken seriously - but WHY SHOULD THAT BE? It doesn’t! 😁)

[@iloveprivacy8167]

Yes: I know I've had some paradigm SHIFTS, but mostly it's been paradigm DRIFTS: I barely even notice at the time, and then in retrospect realise how much my perspective has changed.

[@morgand.3809]

@@iloveprivacy8167 Same. And then I find myself wondering, "Okay, at some point I was over there, and now I am here. But when did I move? What brought me here?" And a lot of times I don't have the answers.

[@kok-fh6xm]

@@morgand.3809 Do you think it might be the people you met or the things you saw that caused the paradigm shifts? For me, the more different kinds of people I met, things I read and saw, the more I learnt.

[@superstarwhimsy]

Most of mine happen when talking through tough issues with my best friend who has vastly different beliefs and opinions than me. She helps me think through things from a different perspective, and vice versa. I think it's super healthy to make friends with people who are different than you.

[@honestscriberelaxation9542]

Going through my own paradigm shift right now. It's painful, but I know I'll be a better person at the end of it. My friend suggested I watch this video, and it's definitely been encouraging. Thank you guys for what you do.

[@MadisonAiello]

I completely agree with everything y’all said. And that’s exactly why Diana is my favorite superhero of all time. And this is one of my favorite movies of all time. When I was growing up I didn’t have many strong, bad ass female role models to look up too. Having a character like her to look up to would’ve been amazing and would’ve helped me so much. But I’m just glad that we finally have female characters like her for the next generation to look up too. And I also just love the message behind this movie so so so much.

[@duncandavenport7007]

This week at Ford was set aside for five days of presentations on diversity, equity, and inclusion and today, one of the panels showed excerpts from this video to illustrate some of the points their presentation was designed to introduce and highlight. This was my introduction to the fact of your existence and your work. I am nearing the end of my graduate work in clinical counseling and am a HUGE fan of these kinds of movies that explore psychology & Campbellian archetypes (among others), and apply the lessons gleaned from them to our many human challenges such as those you covered here. I am so very glad not only for what we've been learning all week, but that it brought this channel and this amazing discussion and analysis to my attention. I can't wait to explore it further! Thank you!

[@shaunofett]

KZbin suggested your Aragorn video to me a few weeks back and you were an instant subscribe. I cry every damn time. Thank you and your team for your work.

[@jthughes9820]

What many don't quite realize about Wonder Woman is that she was the writing conception of a very intelligent man who understood the power of symbols, wherein World War 2 she was conceived as an "American Hero" because of the congruity the Greco-Roman Republic and American Patriotism. The idea that that freedom is the the right of all and that courage...lives forever. These are the values we embrace. And they can belong not to just the Amazons or America, but to the whole world. That is the beauty of characters like this. And as the world changes, so must it's heroes. Thankyou Cinema Therapy for a wonderful film essay.

[@Me-ss2gq]

Hey, just wanted to say I adore this channel and I’m so glad I found it! Also, PLEASEEEE do something about adopted children in Kung Fu Panda 2/3

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

Planning on it!

[@nerdydirty936]

When she goes on the battlefield I got goosebumps and teary-eyed. It's one of my favourite moments. Wonder Woman is one of my favs!! Ever since Lynda Carter.

[@macroxela]

Great to see your new video, especially on Wonder Woman! Gadot's portrayal here is one of my favourites of all superheroes. It really shows how you act on your values is more powerful than any super power you can have. On a side note, if you ever decide to make episodes on series, I'd suggest Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood. It shows so many ways people deal with trauma, PTSD, paradigm shifts, and loss. It also shows what I believe to be one of the best portrayals of a deeply masculine man who embraces his vulnerability and emotions.

[@azuregriffin1116]

It's a terrible day for rain.

[@MDaggatt]

Personally, my favourite thing about wonder woman is the costumes. For the first time, she is put in a costume that, while it still plays off of previous iterations, it can actually be recognized as armour, not something simply designed to make her attractive. It's based on actual ancient Greek armour. If the Amazons did exist, that's what they would wear. I love it so much.

[@notyourtherapist21]

Your videos are my jam, I love them, and I love listening to your take on so many of these movies, most of them are my all-time favorites! If I could make a suggestion, please watch a few foreign movies also, that way you guys would have more dynamics to analyse. Lots and lots of love and best wishes from India!

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

Thank you! We're thinking of starting with Parasite. What do you think?

[@notyourtherapist21]

@@CinemaTherapyShow That would be so amazing! I love the minute details in that movie, and would equally love to hear your take on it. And Thank you so much for replying!

[@manguy4227]

@@CinemaTherapyShow if you're doing hindi movies i'd recommend "dangal"! it's a truly amazing movie, and it talks about the struggle of women in India trying to do traditionally "man things". another great one is "pk", which talks about india's relationship with religion.

[@daniellemusella1594]

1] I think another great example of a paradigm shift is in the movie "Avatar", a slow and gradual one for the lead character, Jake Sully. 2] My favorite line in the whole film is what Diana tells Ares in the clip you showed: "It's not about 'deserve'. It's about what you believe, and I believe in love." For a movie that relies heavily on Greek mythology, it's actually a very Christian moment, which is reinforced by the fact that, basically, Ares serves as the devil. 3] The battle at the end is more than a Greek god and demigoddess fight. It's also a sibling fight, which adds yet another layer of awesome complexity. And 4] Something I was amused by is, AFTER her big paradigm shift and battle with her brother, Diana's initial beliefs are proved right. As soon as Ares dies, 99.9% of the fighting stops, and the viewers see the confusion, fear, and anger lift from the soldiers' faces.

[@saphirarose5866]

if you're up for it, do the BBC 1995 Pride and prejudice! Goes into so much more detail and it's brilliant!

[@MsLg-of7no]

While on the subject of TV shows... "Mad Men" would be interesting too

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

It's sooo good!

[@iloveprivacy8167]

They even did the hair correct to the period - which, I mean: bun in the back, poodle in the front, I don't know why it was ever in fashion, but those filmmakers must have been committed!

[@camillechandler4431]

@@iloveprivacy8167 and the actors were not in any make up. The producers and director in interviews made it very clear that it was going to be an accurate adaptation depicting the novel its based on and the era it came from and they did both.

[@MrKaelas]

The scene where she crosses no man's land...particularly with her standing against the automatic machine guns with her shield absolutely sends shivers down my spine. I think it is one of the best scenes in a movie that I've seen. Period. It's so epic.

[@cupofcozy708]

Wonder Woman is one of my favorite superhero movies! I'd love to see you do X-men some time ✨

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

For sure!

[@jadeperri5183]

That would be cool!

[@SplatterInker]

Deadpool would also be good!

[@laurajaynenolan2149]

I also loved that the slow motion focused on her strength and the costume and not her butt or chest. Thank you guys for talking about that too. 💖

[@VulpesChama]

This "It's not about what people deserve." is so god damn important. Or like Gandalf would say: "Deserves it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends." If we'd give everyone what they deserve, we'd have a very, very dark world around us. And this is not some philosophical question, a justice system should not be about what people deserve (ironically), but about how people can change. If we purely punish people for crimes they did, they'd have no real incentive to change. And no, avoiding punishment is actually far from enough. Why? Because to avoid crime you need other options. To get other options, you need chances to take them. If we cut off a convicted person from all options and throw them in jail, what do you think is the most likely thing to happen afterwards? The reason why so many people return to a life of crime is simply because they don't see another option. A lot of European justice systems are therefor based around the idea of rehabilitation and try to give the inmates of prisons as many options to change their life as possible and have within these prisons actually decent living conditions. Not because these people deserve it. Some do, and some may not. But they don't deserve to be treated like trash either. And it doesn't stop there. You are not simply reformed when you get out of prison, if society does not let you in afterwards. And if the "normal" society won't let you in, what have you got to turn to left? Does a murderer deserve to get a chance from society? I don't know, but the real question is, what happens if he doesn't get this chance. And this is but one example of why it is important to not concentrate around what people deserve. And why people who believe in the good of humanity are not naive or dreamers. These are the people keeping our society alive actually.

[@florenciaelaine1496]

Wow 👏👏

[@kayleemagoffin9573]

I think that is the real struggle this world has--deserve. How many times do we say "they don't deserve this" or "they deserve it"? Deserve indicates that life is fair, that "good" people will always have good returned to them and that "bad" people will always have bad returned to them. But the truth is--life doesn't work that way. Consequences don't work that way. And people tend to be grey area when it comes to good/bad because their decisions can cause both good and bad things to happen, whether their decision was "good" or "bad" to begin with. We need to really take the word "deserve" out when talking about consequences that happen to people.

[@VulpesChama]

@@kayleemagoffin9573 I completely agree. It's not just that it's always about what people seemingly "deserve", it's also always out of a subjective perspective. The first question everyone has to ask her-/himself should always be "Who am I to judge?" It doesn't mean letting everyone do whatever she/he wants, but stopping dangerous behavior can be done without judging someone.

[@skyler9643]

"This is not some philosophical question" that is EXPLICITLY what philosophy is though.

[@skyhideaway]

A good protagonist is not someone who is perfect and always does the right thing. It is someone who makes mistakes, stumbles, has the wrong ideas, has extreme emotions, gets out of control and still strives to do the right thing. Goodness is not something we are born with, it is something we make.

[@elisads8262]

Wow I didn't fully realize that part of what I have been struggling through this year is a paradigm shift of sorts. It literally crumbled my very limited worldview and I haven't quite figured out how to navigate it yet. Working on it though! Thanks @cinematherapy

[@EtamirTheDemiDeer]

Hey, same. It’s scary having your foundation obliterated, but we’ll get through it eventually : )

[@raeyoruichibts6084]

Two movies that really got me thinking recently was Soul and Onward. Soul got me thinking about something that I was always told as a child, "Everyone was born for a purpose." and "Everything has a reason." I think the movie does a good job showing that one each person has different passions and anything can become a reason to continue and live but also there doesn't necessarily need to be a purpose, we can just live a life that we wish and enjoy life itself. With Onward, as someone who has gone through loss and experience something similar, I can forget about the people or person that has always been by my side and helping me when others were not. Even if that person isn't family by blood. I feel like that is a really good message and something that everyone needs reminding sometimes. It's like the old saying, "You don't appreciate something, until it's gone." That was a lesson I learned and something I constantly remind myself so I don't take the people I love for granted. Ps. Thank you for the videos they really help me with issues I have or mindsets I didn't even know I had. I'm always happy when i can learn and grow more as a person.

[@saphirarose5866]

Can you do if beauty and the beast is an example of Stockholm syndrome? Would like to know your perspective....

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

On it!

[@postmodernpastoral]

There's like 2 or 3 Lindsey Ellis videos about this lol. She's great check her out

[@LittleHobbit13]

It's not Stockholm Syndrome though? At all times, Belle retains her independence of thought. Stockholm Syndrome occurs when affection develops _despite_ abuse, but Belle doesn't develop any affection until after the Beast begins to show goodness.

[@saphirarose5866]

@@LittleHobbit13 Yes I totally agree! There were some kids in my class that tried to convince me it was Stockholm syndrome and I didn't know how to combat it. Thanks! :)

[@ElfQuestComicDubFamily]

@@LittleHobbit13 agreed! She’s so intelligent and independent and I doubt the beast could’ve (or would really have wanted to) stop her if she did try to escape, at least in the live action one anyway.

[@Jessie_Helms]

One of my most fundamental, and healthy, paradigm shifts was a few years back. I’d just done something bad, and I was just shouting down myself on how terrible I was and how Jesus had to take one more punch, take one more agonizing step, because I did that thing. And then, as clear as watching this video, I heard, “no, I love you so much I’d have taken _every_ step, _every_ punch, taken _every_ agonizing breath, just to save you. And not just that, but even if _this_ was the only bad thing you ever did, I still would have done it.” So much shame, and self-hatred, and anxiety melted off in that moment. I still have anxiety, I still struggle with loving myself, but the difference is massive. Yes it was really centered around my view of God, but even my own view of self was so greatly impacted by it too.

[@redheaded5673]

About time! I've been checking your channel everyday to see if something new had been posted...love your channel!

[@SoManyColours]

hahHahaa me too

[@CinemaTherapyShow]

We're back in action!

[@halfblood100]

I loved Wonder Woman, I was a little weary about it before I watching it for the first time. I loved how they handled and stayed true to her depictions of her in the comics and shows. Even including some iconic moments like the ice cream scene. It's one of my favorite movies.

[@Dreymasmith]

Also. one of the few films with an "old photo" that actually looks like an old photo.

[@ohkaygoplay]

You guys are my therapists now. I'm so glad I found this channel. It's highly under rated. You need more views and followers.

[@renees7239]

Thank you for this. I've really been struggling with what's been happening in the country this past week and the past 4 years. It's hard to find good in evil people especially people who want terrible things but it's also important to realize that not everyone is 100% evil for no reason.

[@annamaegold]

OMG, that was so good. My husband and I are sitting here bawling. So good. Thank you.

[@umrazubeir3839]

This episode really helped me with a side-character in the novel I'm writing. He's a very religious person who consumes truth essence and realises his (made-up by me) religion was fake. Having a therapist explain paradigm shifts really helped me get into the reactions and mindset of the character. Thanks for the help!

[@dodofeathers3960]

Much love for the channel! I feel that I had a paradigm shift- (I didn't know what to call it, but now I do!) - when I was told by a friend that I was immature or childish. He felt like he couldn't get anywhere in conversations, because of it. I felt defensive, but did not say it, and accepted his evaluation and really reflected on it, and finally decided he was right. That day, I felt really upset, and seriously felt as if my world view had forcibly shifted. A long while later, now, I look back and it seems that it was really actually a simple matter! I was uncomfortable talking about things I had always treated as 'taboo', but after realizing they are very real and human subjects, I have a better understanding of it and it makes a lot of sense to me, now.