Cinestill 400d

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Jason goes out to the desert packing heat in the form of cinestill's new film stock.
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[@CineStillFilm]

400Daddy. Hmm. We'll let the marketing team know...

[@notyourtipicaltechguy6438]

If you make a special edition named 400Daddy I'll buy it

[@YourMiddleBroPhil]

Cstill 400 is daddy. It's a dang cheat code with a warming filter.

[@KentTeffeteller]

I call it 400 Daily. As 400 is my ISO. Being that I have Cerebral Palsy, I always must keep CineStill to get my shots!

[@ninerlives]

400Daddy is already trademarked, prepare for lawsuit.

[@lawrencedgriffin]

I honestly save your videos for a good time to watch them. You always have at least one line that makes me laugh out loud. Keep up the great work and don’t change for anything.

[@seasn5553]

theres a blizzard in PNW. this is why I'm watching this so i feel you.

[@epuranadrian2196]

I can relate to this comment so much

[@708photog]

Could not agree more. Saved this one until I could log off the work laptop and have a couple tall boys at the ready.

[@ErwinvanAsperen]

This!!

[@9horizon40]

Omg soo true . Never stop until u are good with this

[@vuhlandes]

400Damn woulda been a great name. Every photo had me like… “damn” in a good way

[@aristoioannidis7490]

It is! I am calling it!

[@giantjak]

As someone who has a ton of 220 backs laying around the house, i'm genuinely excited to see if 400d in 220 gets released later this year.

[@onif1054]

it will i think

[@refard5]

shanghai film makes 220 if you want a headstart

[@milesian1]

@@refard5 They do? I'm a huge fan of GP3 in 120 format. That's awesome news. Thanks! Update: I went ahead and ordered three rolls of GP3 in 220 from my reliable seller in Hong Kong. I really dig that film when it's fresh.

[@chilecayenne]

I'm looking to pick up one for my Hassy....any idea what. a good price for a A24 220 film back would be for a V system film back?

[@giantjak]

@@chilecayenne KEH camera generally gives a decent price mark for those things. Or you could look at sold listings on ebay to get an idea for what you might expect to pay. Personally I wouldn't spend $100 usd on a 220 back, the $60 - $80 range is what I'd pay for them, though if you wait long enough you can find them for $50. (A common trend for 220 backs is to be half the price of a 120 backs, same rule applies with my Rollei)

[@DogsandFilm]

Baxter's appearances: - NONE Just another bad day for the fandom... :( Cheers!

[@kevlarnegative]

I promised myself not to get hyped about this film and then Jason does this, and now I'm confirming my order of 400D.. Damn you Jason!

[@MichaelCortese1]

Believe it or not 400D is actually Ektar repackaged with Remjet added, and then removed

[@PhotographerVA]

Solid move by cinestill lol

[@DixonLu]

Sorry, not. Etkar is an ISO 100 photographic film, not a motion picture film with Remjet like Vision3 250D. They specifically claimed that "this new film is based on advanced technology found in motion picture emulsions". So if we take their words at face value, it is neither Ektar nor Vision3 250D. I'd like to see whether there'd be halation on the 4x5 since no motion picture film is available in that size. If it is 250D, we should be impressed that Cinestill can get Kodak to make a batch of 4x5.

[@PhotographerVA]

@@DixonLu you missed the joke …

[@MichaelCortese1]

@@PhotographerVA It's kind of amazing that any part of my comment could be taken seriously lol

[@akosbertalot]

@@DixonLu #joke

[@ChadtheFilipino]

Man i am STOKED to get this film. Cinestill ftw. Also man that Fuji X-pan is making me super itchy for one now..

[@SweetLouPhotography]

Not gonna lie, I supported the campaign because film, but now that I'm seeing what you made here. I'm very excited to get my hands on 400D, great work in this one. Cheers captain

[@chilecayenne]

Yeah...I'm thinking I might should have gotten some 120 film too...or at least some 220 and bought a film back for it.

[@blakebritain9787]

I’m excited to get my rolls that I ordered🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@NickSealPueo]

You forgot a critical part of this video… Where is the Baxter test shot?

[@gretisma2]

Never miss one of your videos! Your photography and knowledge are absolutely inspiring!!!

[@3003065]

Interesting that you experienced halations considering Cinestill explicitly says this is a new emulsion and not a repackaged motion picture stock in their campaign FAQ. The plot thickens....

[@GregoryVeizades]

Yeah, its very interesting as other sample images dont have halations. And there would be no reason not to have the C41 antihalation layer that all C41 film has.

[@rawali1]

sooooooooooo when are we pushing this shit two stops and shooting handheld at night?

[@joshuareisbord]

I believe the ISO of Cinestill Film is higher than the Kodak Vision3 stock it comes from is not necessarily because of the RemJet, but primarily because of the differences of the ECN-2 vs C41 process. I remember seeing this somewhere on the APUG section of the Photrio forums. Edit: Analog Resurgence just did a video and mentioned this as one of the reasons why its rated at 800 ISO

[@yetanotherbassdude]

Yeah, I think Ribsy has done some direct comparisons of developing 800T in both C41 and ECN2, and the C41 negs came out a lot denser for the same exposure settings and subject.

[@GregoryVeizades]

Yep, you nailed it. Film speeds are rated for their native processes.

[@Stanlyok]

Was about to write the same thing abou C41 vs ECN-2

[@akosbertalot]

or because its actually a new film

[@Adrian-wd4rn]

Eh, it's better to over expose each of these stocks by one stop to shoot at their native ISO.

[@erichung9043]

I hate those halations on daylight film. They look just like bad chromatic abberations. Might as well just shoot Silbersalz35 with true ECN-2 processing. It 's essentially the same film stock. Unless you develop your own film, it 's not that much more expensive since Silbersalz35 is covering both film development and HDR scan.

[@johnjohnson5857]

I believe it isn't the removal of the remjet layer that changes the iso/ei, but the fact that it's being cross processed in c-41 that makes it seem more light sensitive. I heard it also changes the latitude and more of brings the darker areas up a little more, so there's less dynamic range, as it effectively slides the lower end up to brighter. Idk if that makes much sense but it's my best explanation lol

[@keithfox2995]

i agree that it is rebranding but that is the current state of affairs with film today. Ill get some of the 4x5.

[@JoeyShip]

In Cinestills FAQ on their site, they said It is not an already existing stock with remjet removed. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Adrian-wd4rn]

lol, so they became a multi-million/billion dollar company in a few short years and are now capable of hiring the chemists needed, designing, developing, and manufacturing their own rolls of film? Riiiiiiiight.

[@DLivingston]

xpan + cinestill film= sexy time. Right? right! 3:51, I really like the shot. Really gives us the idea of its DYNAMIC range. noice! Oh, love 5:51! I cant wait to get my 400Daddy....... "Did you bring that Kodak Gold"..also RIP Fettucini

[@ninerlives]

Too bad I won’t be buying CineStill anymore.

[@andrewgarrett6029]

You are the most attractive man I have ever seen. Let’s take some dope picture together on Cinestill 800T 🥺👉👈

[@BillPutnamPhoto]

Memo To Kodak: PLEASE BRING BACK KODACHROME!!!!

[@fieldofview-travelfilmlife64]

I can’t wait to get this sexy purple roll! Those pictures looks nice, great choice camera at the right place! Thanks for sharing your great work and review.

[@PhilippHofmann28]

there is nothing better in the world then watching one of jasons movies hardly stoned. All this Pictures are so wonderful man. Looks like paintings to me. youre great jason, keep it up!

[@_dusklo]

hey, what lens were you using to get that 2.35:1-ish aspect ratio? im clueless with lenses but id love to take photos that are letterboxed like that

[@Froozerk567]

God I love your editing, so smooth, and well paced.

[@davidhardy4419]

I literally look forward to this every two weeks. Thank you for this.

[@ren_______]

your videos are kinda therapeutic for me, really like your work and how you express yourself in front of the camera

[@rfmee]

I'm looking forward to getting my 35mm 400D rolls for a trip this summer, so thank you for this review and for the examples you provided. I absolutely love your videos and your delivery. Thanks for your work!

[@patrickjclarke]

I'm looking forward to getting my 120 and 35mm rolls, but thinking 120 might be better since the grain won't be as apparent. Have you shot Lomo 800? I'm pretty pleased with my results in 120. Can't really tell the difference between it and Portra 800 TBH. I have a roll of Lomo 400 in 120 in the fridge as well, but I hear it's more like Ultramax than Portra-ish. It's amazeballs to have all these choices, even if they are all really just Kodak in a different box. :P

[@DaveMontejano]

Positive comment in hopes of a like.

[@daviddiquollo869]

Cinestill 400 Daddy from now on

[@ishaanvajpai824]

them "shit photos" be the highlights of my career....

[@RobbieMaynardCreates]

KZbin rules dictate that you MUST include creepy music box sound effects whenever showing a doll, crib, etc. I appreciate your compliance with these rules. Speaking of rules.... this video.

[@areareare9953]

I used to use film back in the day (when it was all we had) and have been thrilled by Millennials and Zs bringing it all back, and creating new stuff like Lomo. I hit the Cinestill crowdfunding page you mentioned to order a four pack, so send them this comment so they give you more free stuff. We Gotta Get Grainy Some Grain.

[@boredproductionsofficial]

Love your videos. What camera and lenses do you use on your videos?

[@horatiueduard]

I was working on a new film emulsion in my garage with a hammer and some WD-40. Thanks for ruining my plan Jason. Now everyone knows.

[@PREVEDREDCAT]

I've caught myself watching your videos mostly while doing my morning coffee brewing/drinking routine lol, thanks for the good content) Cinestill is good but gosh its expensive (around 27$ for a 35mm roll in my area)

[@Christian_from_Copenhagen]

Yeah, thank god we got a new colour film with an out-of-budget asking price ✌😕

[@Memento_HiFi]

So Cinestill is claiming it's not a motion picture film with the remjet removed but I'm assuming they're probably just trying to be misleading because they also said it's based on motion picture technology. So my guess is it's probably a special formula of 250D that they're ordering from Kodak. From what we know Cinestill is claiming that it has an antistatic coating instead of a remjet layer and honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they also switched the film base from acetate to ESTAR.

[@GregoryVeizades]

Portra 400 and 160 are based on the developments of Vision 3 movie film and Portra 800 is based on Vision 2 movie film. Which is why Portra 800 has a different grain structure and saturation level than the other two. So that part isnt misleading at all if it weren't cinestill.

[@KrisKaos13]

Heads up there’s somebody out here Pretending to be Jason telling you to hit him up on Telegram be aware it is not him.

[@SniperSmithlp]

wil coating the back inside of the cam in Vanta black remove the halations though 🤔

[@DeinCi]

5 days left until backing is over. Let’s hurry up and get that 220 film to 100%.

[@ReimannPembroke]

I can't wait to get my order of 400D! Gonna be shooting it in Chicago this summer

[@d0qtrx]

You're right... removing the anti-halation layer doesn't do anything to sensitivity unless maybe you used a mirror as a film pressure plate? Vision3 250D, as a motion picture stock, is intended to be processed ECN-2. If you shot CS400D at original box speed and developed ECN-2, you'd get the flat motion picture negative. CInestill has you overexpose 2/3 a stop for processing in C-41 to create more contrast. Same goes for 500T / Cinestill 800T

[@Wisudadwipana]

The 'halations' part is the best part for me, I'm feeling like I'm into another type of your world, the music pump me up haha

[@rvmconstruction]

The curse doll hahahaha in spanish La mona embrujada!

[@epicdream]

You need to get your pro-mist on.

[@nickystewart]

Can’t wait to shoot it! Looks incredible.

[@oetproductions8101]

„Bigger is always better, unless you’re giving birth.“ made me laugh out loud in public.

[@olympus2OM]

Abandoned houses. Take 3765. How interesting.

[@ListenandLearnEnglish]

Out of curiosity, I have the same rode mic. Do you plug it directly into the computer or something else?

[@14nafster]

If I were to guess, he probably plugs it to his pc via an audio interface such as a Scarlett Focusrite

[@ListenandLearnEnglish]

@@14nafster ahh will that boost the audio? I find that when I use mine, I have to really boost the audio in post. Then it loses quality. Is that an amp?

[@14nafster]

@@ListenandLearnEnglish i know you can raise the gain through the interface - but Im not sure how much it'll distort audio tbh, sorry mate

[@mjsvitek]

@@ListenandLearnEnglish yeah, you typically need a preamp for most larger mics. The signal coming out of them is usually clean, but incredibly weak. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ListenandLearnEnglish]

@@mjsvitek thanks. That is what I have been noticing. I'm a little disappointed it needs another thing but I get it.

[@Kiswood]

How do yo uthink this would perform at night with flash?

[@linusandhiscamera]

another amazing video! love that you cooked up the 400D in the pano. and soooo good kicking it with you! you're a real one

[@RYANPARKPHOTOGRAPHY]

bigger is always better except… 🤣 thanks for the video! i am so excited to get this soon..

[@hermannkroeis]

RIP fettuccine 🤌

[@oh_sheila]

I feel addicted to your vlogs.... Looking for the next one..... I have a problem. 🥺

[@almightysav2035]

I’m hyped and I haven’t even gotten past the intial ad

[@PeterTsetsekos]

Anyone know when you can get your hands on the 400D in medium format?

[@BadFlashes]

This Vid is a huge D - DYNAMIC

[@Jsoberon]

Anybody know what strap he uses on the T-X1? Been trying to find the perfect strap for damn well a year now.

[@michaelsherck5099]

Tell Squarespace to keep sponsoring -- I'm gradually fixin' to get ready to maybe considering a website and every repetition of their add pulls me closer.

[@wujiali1117]

You're my go-to film reviewer on KZbin. Really hope you shoot more portrait on 400D

[@bekensdwarf8068]

I like to watch youtube on my phone usually but when your videos pop up I always go and grab my laptop to watch on a bigger screen. They are just that cool.

[@aristoioannidis7490]

The only gap in the Cinestill line up is a positive E6 film stock. Now, all I need is a fridge with a Cinestill logo and Jason’s mug laser etched on it!

[@MH5tube]

pros: new 400 speed film. cons: cinestill red glow

[@RodrigoWBlum]

5:50 , 8:52 e 9:02 are pure gold - not the Kodak's, but... Well, you got it. I agree that the grain is a little too much, but not an issue. Nice video, as always 👏👏👏

[@VariTimo]

No.1 CineStill has been getting uncut master rolls without the rem jet from Kodak for years. No.2 The rem yet removal does not increase speed whatsoever. How would it? It causes edge halation to increase not boost the entire red layer. The light hits the back of the film unfocused. Vision3 films like the CineStill films are meant to be developed in ECN2 chemicals and printed onto print film for final viewing. The print film looks a bit like slide film, it’s quite contrasty with about nine stops dynamic range max. So to compensate for that ECN2 developed movie film is flatter than C41 developed stills film. ECN2 creates a flatter contrast curve. Vice versa, C41 creates a more contrasty image. Which CineStill has takes as reason to call the film (at least 800T) slightly pushed. Which really is BS. In a stills process meant to be scanned by photo scanners or printed onto photo paper the native speed of 800T is still 500. I know that because I’ve shot a shit tone of 800T. With a lot of it in daylight. Both with an 85 filter and without one but then corrected for it during scanning. The digest of it is it’s clearly 500 ASA. C41 really screws 500T. It’s still got great colors but when developed in ECN2, it has at least as much dynamic range and finer grain than Portra 400, but in C41 it’s about as grainy as color plus and has about the same dynamic range as Ektar. So when you shoot 800T at 800 you’ll get underexposure characteristics, while shooting at 500 will give you a nice and dense neg without too much halation. I assume all the same applies to 400D as well. If it is indeed 250D. It just seems to be a bit less grainy since 250D is less grainy. But maybe it’s somehow a slightly different emulsion. Because they have been very clear how it is its own film. Although not clearly denying that it isn’t the emulsion from 250D just without a rem jet and a new anti static lubricant.

[@beingbeatle]

bro, just shoot something isn't abandoned

[@noctr1]

I found Caleb's channel a few months ago and now yours! You two are a gem find 🥹 and watching your videos makes me giddy about learning film photography 🥰 Keep it up! 💕

[@acmdv]

The abandoned buildings remind me of an artists film I saw back in 2010/11 of the abandoned buildings left by the Asian population of Uganda after they were expelled by Idi Amin in the 1970's.

[@norayr]

of course it is not a remjet removal, that make the film's box iso speed higher. the c41 process has higher temperatures than ecn process, by which cinema films are designed to be processed. therefore by using c41 we practically push the cinema films. this is why 500 becomes 800 iso, the light sensitivity itself is not affected. also, many people who use not cinestill but kodak vision films, remove remjet themselves as the last (or first) step of manual development. this by itself also does not affect light sensitivity. the temperature means push, therefore it is possible to shoot same film at higher iso settings.

[@poniatowski3547]

looking forward to this. I shoot 250D in 35mm, but being able to buy of the shelf 120 vision 3 is eagerly anticipated in my house. shame that postage costs just made it unreasonable to back this in Australia, just have to wait for our local stores to stock it.

[@TheOnlyPrashant]

Damn, these locations are cool and pictures are awesome as well

[@nateeames6826]

If there’s on thing this channel has taught me, it’s that it’s basically impossible to get a good composition in panoramic format. Or a bad one.

[@caypasha]

I need to start shooting this film stock damn - if you guys are interested in film photography i've recently started making my own. grainydays inspired me

[@TheWingedLing]

"if you have a similar workflow, you can expect these results." ....how do I get *better* results?

[@da009999]

Is that normal for the USA to have so much poverty and decaying towns?

[@CrunchyDiopter]

Him getting distracted by a fly really made me feel like I’m not alone in this world with dissociating randomly or having an attention span so short people regularly find me staring off into space. Feels good

[@VarunaSingh89]

Please tellme you do comedy! Informative, Aesthetic AND Funny

[@Singdisorder31]

Some of my favorite pics of yours brother. You have a way with that xpan

[@sk8absence]

Show that Lexus some love, give it a wash. It's a phenomenal car with a cult following.

[@mariolopez.photographer]

Awesome video and I want to have fun trying out this 400Daddy film!!! Or maybe 400BDE Film haha!! Photos look amazing!!! What size photos are these shots you are showing??

[@eiannamaxine6911]

Wait where can we order this?

[@Adrian-wd4rn]

btw, Grainydays Theres a filmshop here in Chicago selling 35mm rolls of pro400H at 29 bucks a roll. The film expires 5/22....But since this guy never reads comments, he will never know the plug. Just sent two back home to California for a friend of mine.

[@zachbeazer5105]

If its repackaged Vision 250 then did Kodak make Vision in 4x5? Nots are how Cinestill is offering 4x5 if its just altered cinema film.

[@tompleysier1268]

Love your stuff man, keep it up!

[@TerriblyCinemaddict]

I just knew when your 400D vid was going to drop, you would be flexin the TX-2. I should have bought it years ago at $2k... it's rising faster than bitcoin.....

[@ginoeelen6374]

Am I the only one who comes here mainly for the humor? Like the look of this film though, can't wait 'till it becomes available in my neck of the woods. Oh wait, I first have to finish that roll of Lomo Color Neg I started... about nine months ago...

[@JAndrePhotography]

Who goes through the extra effort to load mattresses, drive them a billion miles out into the desert only to dump them??? Isn't it easier to leave in the alley, or imagine this: a free recycling center!?? If you're gonna take them to the middle of nowhere, at least they could start a bonfire and take dope film photos...

[@gatsbye53]

Boom goes the Jas-o-mite!

[@jeffcsMN]

I have a roll of 400D that's been sitting on my shelf for weeks now and I can't decide if I should shoot it at box speed or pull it. decisions. decisions.

[@andrewpechon]

I used to live over the hill from that movie set. I watched them film The Hills Have Eyes and House of 1000 Corpses out there. Those spots get super creepy at night.

[@nightsbeatswitchgood]

what kinds of settings do people use in NLP? because, how tf do you get results this nice with minimal editing? when i convert, most of the time, al the presets/profiles are either way too contrasty or way too little with color casts. what am i doing wrong?

[@brina9957]

Medium format panoramic camera next? it's really only a matter of time, so you may as well stop jerking us around and buy a Fuji GX617 already.

[@suzanne3t]

I figure your audience is mostly guys but I really enjoy your dry delivery. Oh, and the photos, which are sweet. Thanks.

[@ThePhotoDept]

The fact that there isn’t a 400Daddy film is….incomprehensible.

[@NickSmithPhoto]

The production of 4x5 of this film gets me all tingly inside, though if it ends up being crazy expensive and more than Portra, then I think it'll struggle. Here's to hoping.

[@amalfrancis9590]

you make me laugh. and i don't mind watching shitty videos if they make me laugh. 😌 of course i'm joking.

[@LennyG2006]

The gas station at 7.05 was used in Noel Gallaghers High Flying Birds song The Death of You and Me. Nice.