cinestill did an oopsie

[@reflxlab]

We will consider SWEET800😂

[@Xin200O]

legends ☠️

[@SweetLouPhotography]

just remember to make the font comic sans lol

[@danieljimenez1989]

We're rooting for you. Keep your head down and push the pedal to the metal, we got your back.

[@PhilKnall]

Omg the royalties are going to be crazy

[@sacredprovenance]

Please do, I'll buy as much as possible.

[@mvonwalter6927]

Only having 12 employees is basically an admission that we relabel and contract everything and don't make a damn thing ourselves.

[@randallstewart1224]

I was a lawyer for 42 years and I do shoot film. This lawsuit (or not) over alleged trademark violation is just trademark bullying of a classic sort. Perhaps the most famous suit f this type was brought by Microsoft against Apple over Microsoft's claim the Apple appropriated its ownership of the "mouse" concept of computer control. The suit went on for years, and millions in legal fees were spent. In the end, the proof was that both Microsoft and Apple stole the concept from Xerox, and Xerox didn't care. Cinestill registered an ISO film speed and a common color balance designation, 800T, as their trademark, but those types of common usage cannot be trademarked. When is that determined? When a trademark holder sues someone for a violation and the trademark is ruled to be valid in court. We are a long way from that ever happening. So where does this go from here? Cinestill said "salute our trademark", and Catlabs said "piss up a rope". So, (1) No where. (Cinestill goes looking for a rope.) (2) Cinestill sues Catlabs, very probably looses, and then pays the big bucks for nothing. (The majority of the 12 company shareholders beat the crap out of the minority who got talked into the nonsense.) (3) Cinestill wins (1% probability), and Catlabs reprints its film boxes "ISO 800 Tungsten". In all outcomes, the lawyers laugh themselves silly while paying off the 52 foot Nauticutt yacht.

[@theoldcameraguy]

I’ll be ordering SweeT800 as soon as it’s available! Sidenote: I just shot a roll of Amber T800 this past week.

[@SweetLouPhotography]

bro not gonna lie, I put that in as a joke, but I'm hoping it manifests into reality lol

[@ralphstark9961]

Yup 800T was a Kodak film and respooling movie film was Seattle Film Works game in the 70s. So I guess SFW has time machine too.

[@SweetLouPhotography]

Time machines have joined the chat lol

[@randallstewart1224]

Seattle Film Works didn't remove remjet so the film could be processed in a normal lab. They just repackaged it and sold it with processing. So, users returned the film to SFW to be processed, then paid for prints or slides printed from the negatives. Because they didn't have to screw with the film itself like Cinestill, and they controlled the full process in-house, quality control was higher than anything you can get from Cinestill films. SFW was started by two guys I went to college with. IMO it never grew bigger because the two of them really had no sense of how to manage a large operation, and both were distracted by outside interests. That might take us down the path of how the Harei Krishna ended up owning the company, but that's another story.

[@RobbieMaynardCreates]

how much to un-blur those tootsies?

[@RudolfWolph]

Years spent building good will in the film community only to make one silly decision to burn it all. Even if they drop this, people are still going to avoid them and mention their reason why.

[@tone_bone]

I'm gonna get a trademark on 4 door sedan.

[@keef.mp4333]

Thanks for the info Swee Lou Phoography!

[@nunwalksinabar]

Trademarks get taken away all the time once someone provides prior art. Is there prior art? Yes there is. Someone just needs to spend the money to challenge it. Who’s gonna do it. Not the eBay sellers working out of their Moms basement.

[@SweetLouPhotography]

You raise an extremely strong point here!!

[@PhilKnall]

Kodak invalidating the tm would be a baller move 😂

[@robertknight4672]

Recently the trademark owners of "Taco Tuesday" relinquished that trademark.

[@Caballeroshot]

I love how a company of a dozen people are now vilified as CORPORATE SHILLS for protecting a product they mass marketed and pushed to us photo nerds looking to expand our options and now have turned on them because they asked a Chinese reseller and everyone and their mother using their name to advertise the substandard quality product that was causing brand confusion. Aren't American consumers just AWESOME!? 🙄

[@knoptop]

high quality lo-fi content. very nice.

[@tiomannysworld6835]

Not to surprising Lou. Business practices these days are sketchy. Thanks for the vid good to know

[@ktwo.photography]

Glad to see this bs being covered! hoping cinestill makes some serious changes

[@smokeyhowle]

You the man! I find common sense hits home more coming from a man recording on a toilet 👌⛽📷

[@SweetLouPhotography]

sometimes you gotta film yourself on a toilet lol

[@neeravnaik]

We are beggars and not choosers here in India. Not seen any lomo film for last few months let aloe their new launches. Kodak blesses us with some stock once every few months. The amount of film we get for whole market would be enough for a single New York street photographer for a month. So I am buying anything i can get my hand on Cinestill or not. Sometimes there is no free market

[@Phil_Reid_N.Z]

Damn right Lou you nailed it. Bathroom looks good btw.

[@SweetLouPhotography]

Thanks so much!! We just moved in like two weeks ago, I actually hung the Anya portrait above the toilet minutes before recording lol

[@ordinaryhunter]

I don’ undersand why here so much drama always happening. Can’ people jus be cool? Disclaimer: Cinesill don’ sue me I no longer use the letter “t”

[@SweetLouPhotography]

I was reading this comment thinking to myself 'what is happening am I having a stroke' and then I understood the joke lol

[@infernalcapricorn]

SweetLou800T!

[@StephenMcLeod]

You didn't happen to be the admin of the Flickr I Shoot Film group, did you?

[@SweetLouPhotography]

Nope, I don't think I've logged onto Flickr in like 10 years lol

[@StephenMcLeod]

To be fair this was about 15 years ago haha@@SweetLouPhotography

[@SweetLouPhotography]

@@StephenMcLeod ah well that timeline would add up, but I was never an admin haha

[@oversharingturtle4462]

My take: cinestill/other remjet removed film stocks are an inferior product. If an ecn2 lab is accessible, use it well and save money on film that will give you incredible results: otherwise, do your own black and white and thrive 😊

[@refard5]

I only buy Terminator T-800 now

[@SweetLouPhotography]

Damn how did I miss that joke!!!

[@refard5]

@@SweetLouPhotography more importantly how can we start a cinematic film respool company and our marketing is all terminator based

[@SweetLouPhotography]

@@refard5 i like the way you think

[@refard5]

@@SweetLouPhotography we can even sell red scale film where you expose from the back and call it "I'll be back"

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

me with a digital camera;

[@rustybrownproductions]

Anoher banger from Swee Lou Phoography

[@flyingo]

Love it. I wonder what the folks at Kodak think.. probably nothing because thy have bigger problems.

[@polaroidbarber]

kodak need ti bring out the 800t to fuck shit up !

[@VincentViewer]

Why not just call it T800 and call it a day? Keep up the good vids :)

[@skellums.7210]

Petapixel is trash, but what else is new? Also booooo, Cinestill, boooo! 👎

[@vangstr]

Let’s just all stop buying cinestill products. Let the scumbag brothers tank their shady business. 😮

[@sting0072007]

did you konw they sell glow in the dark toilet seats?

[@SweetLouPhotography]

might need to invest, though tbh my night aim is pretty solid (not to brag or anything lol)

[@Bacender]

Off topic but when the hell did you lose so much weight dude? Good job man!

[@SweetLouPhotography]

Thanks so much!! When I moved last time, I ended up living next door to this dude I went to college with who is now a personal trainer. I started lifting with him, and just kept it consistent!! That was late 2020?

[@ianreynolds7191]

Good vid

[@aristoioannidis7490]

Don't forget to flush your toilet after you use it. Pretty much where this opinion belongs.