‪@CineStillFilm‬

Hello everyone!
As I promised in my previous video, today's episode is all about comparing Amber T800 and Cinestill 800T film stocks while exploring the streets of Manhattan.
Originally, my plan was simple: pick up a couple of rolls of the well-known Cinestill 800T. But then, Amber T800 caught my eye. It's potentially just repackaged Kodak Vision3 500T, but who knows?
So, I thought, why not make this an indirect comparison under the city lights of Manhattan?
Aaand let's jump on the express bus and head straight to Manhattan.
Camera used:
Nikon FM3A
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:44 Off to manhattan
02:00 Amber T800
04:35 Cinestill 800T
6:35 Comparison
9:44 Outro
#SnakeyTales #film #filmphotographer #kodak #cinestill800t #ambert800 #nikon #nyc

[@user-nz7kr2go6g]

Great comparison, thanks for the vid!

[@kirilldemko1644]

Thank you for the wonderful emotions I experienced. I'm your fan

[@snakeytales]

Thanks man!

[@allthingsanalogue]

Great comparison video. Nice and clear

[@snakeytales]

Thanks for the feedback! Glad you enjoyed it:)

[@jamesjuranke]

Thanks for sharing this one!

[@snakeytales]

glad you liked it!

[@jeroenremme3442]

Great video!

[@snakeytales]

Thanks man👊🏻

[@SlickLicksWithAlex]

What lens are you using here?

[@snakeytales]

Nikkor 28 and 135 and Voigtlander 40

[@ffll8427]

well shot and structured video with the right amount of interesting insight at the end. good job.

[@snakeytales]

Thanks for your feedback, much appreciate!

[@lucythebrazen]

Damn I must be really deep in the analog Film rabbit hole, to get recommended a 705 sub channel... Well, great video! Let's make it 706 subs :3

[@snakeytales]

Haha, thanks! I'm trying to prioritise photography first and film second, but in any case, I hope you'll like it! :)

[@adrianemikko]

Would love to see the Reflxlab vs Cinestill next! That is so much cheaper and shots more than these two.

[@snakeytales]

By all means I’m not an expert or something:)) but looking at their line up I can say that with 99% probability that they also buy kodak motion picture film and remove remjet layer. So probably results would be more or less similar to Amber. Maybe they figured out how to remove it better than Amber? As I replied to someone else there, my hot-take that CineStill orders regular photo film with genuine emulsion which is used for Vision 3 5219 (or others like 400D and so on) and in that process there’s no remjet layer at all so no need to remove anything.

[@virrcraft]

The machines rose from the ashes of the nuclear fire...! That's suposed to be an intro for something, where T800 is mentioned xD

[@snakeytales]

Ahahaha, could be cool!:)

[@virrcraft]

@@snakeytales in Volodarsky's voice, of course =)

[@snakeytales]

@@virrcraft 😂

[@jameslenney]

From all the mud-slinging going Cinestill's way, this is further evidence that they do really good work. The general vibe is that all of the chemistry and care they've put into their film produces a stock that's much more 'pro' in its quality compared to more cost-effective films like Amber.

[@snakeytales]

Fully agree with you! Probably communication wise they could do a better job (I mean these posts on Reddit) but in terms of quality I would definitely stick to Cinestill 800T since I prefer to be sure in results which I get. Unfortunately Amber T800 doesn't work for me.

[@jameslenney]

@@snakeytales Yeh, it looks like they were silent for a little too long with all the stink that was happening on Reddit, so it grew and grew. But I'd imagine they learned their lesson; that people are fine individually, but are collective morons.

[@snakeytales]

@@jameslenney exactly:)) idk what prevents them from showing that their film is something different from the re-spooled 500T. Also taking into consideration that that Amber is only 0.5$ cheaper but 10 frames less (27 instead of 36 which are usually 37)!

[@jameslenney]

@@snakeytales Yeh, the difference really isn't huge. I think this happens when 'content creators' realise that they can feed the reddit dragon by simply agreeing with controversial things. Cinestill's statement Wass super interesting when read in full and it looks like they're a small/medium-sized company trying to protect their valuable IP. Anyway, well done for creating a vid that seems balanced and interested in real life. Nice stuff :)

[@snakeytales]

@@jameslenney thanks so much!:)

[@RoryChapman]

This is a weird comparison considering they're the same film.

[@snakeytales]

Emulsion - yes, film - no. In any case I would suggest to rewatch starting from 6:35 so you can visually identify the difference.

[@RoryChapman]

@@snakeytales I've shot them both quite a lot. Amber's quality control isn't great, but they're both just 500T. I prefer to pay less and roll my own 500T. You can rate it at 800 and dev as normal so it's a lot cheaper.

[@snakeytales]

@@RoryChapman It’s not about quality control: Amber removes remjet from 500T, hence damages the film in different ways. CineStill doesn’t have this problem at a first place. I invite you once again to check video and pay attention for macro shots to see the difference that backs up my point. Anyways, thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts!

[@RoryChapman]

@@snakeytales yeah, I'm aware of all this. Regular 500T is still better than both and cheaper in my opinion.

[@snakeytales]

@RoryChapman Agree, but I don’t want to mess around with ecn-2 processing at home and here in NL ecn-2 dev costs around 20€ incl. return shipping:( Also since I rarely shoot any of tungsten balanced films I would rather buy a fresh roll from CineStill and be sure that it will be scratch free and so on. But yeah, as usual, it always depends on your personal preference and application.