There was another weird racetrack in Germany wich was made on a Autobahn. It was called "Autobahnspinne Dresden and was litteratly on a Autobhan Crossing. It held Formula 2 and Formula 3 events from 1951 to 1971
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's pretty weird. I visited Dresden twice, so maybe I drove there :)
@aussieaudir8lms8714 жыл бұрын
It's name tho
@PunChris_924 жыл бұрын
I see Norisring, I press like
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Do you also like the cartoon?
@yhelloh4 жыл бұрын
Damn they named a circuit after Lando Norris??
@zanemurcha26754 жыл бұрын
In 1954 my Grand Father watched "The Berlin Grand Prix" aged 12 and he even saw Fangio in the Mercedes W196. He said those Mercedes' went like "silver bullets".
@silverdarlin4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about Pescara: Ferrari didn't attend the 1957 Pescara Grand Prix because Enzo was scared one of drivers would be killed... Enzo Ferrari was well known for not caring about his drivers safety. I'm glad F1 only ever went there once
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Actually, ther have driven there more than one time. But only the 1957 race counted for the championship.
@exoroxx4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see the 'Großdeutschlandring' (which translates to 'Great Germany Circuit'), located in the Saxon Switzerland. It's around 10 km long and contains a long banked corner, a downhill section through the woods and some zigzags. Nowaydays the whole circuit is a public road.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
I know, because I visited it in 2016. Here the video I made there: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGa1eYWHjM6tmtU Apologies for the misaligned camera. I discovered it when I was back home. So I have to go another time, to make a better video. By the way: Translating Sachsische Schweiz to Saxon Switzerland can cause some confusion with the country. In German they use the word Schweiz to indicate a mountain range.
@lobby55_774 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast no in german we dont jus Schweiz to indicat i maunten renge Its just the name for Schweiz (srhwitzerland)
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
@@lobby55_77 I didn't say it's just for a mountain range. It's used for the country AND a mountain range as well. Or do you think the "Sachsische Schweiz" is in Switserland?
@Mishima5056 ай бұрын
I have an article from Motor magazine dated 1938 which really praised the proposed circuit. However the planned 100000 spectators would never turn up at all…
@domdomdom53964 жыл бұрын
The outside line of the Hockenheim Ostkurve that just comes from the bushes always makes me wonder what could have been. So sad to see it rot away. I don't understand why they didn't at least put up signs at the sites of the chicanes and the Ostkurve, to remind what once was. It's like they're trying to forget, even Jim Clark's original crash site is hidden next to the site of the Jim Clark chicane. Thanks for these videos Herman, I absolutely love them!
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm also a bit confused about that line. If you see old footage of the track there was a small asphalt connection with the old part if the "Dreieckskurs". So I wonder when they restored that connection. If they did it after the demolishing it wouldn't make sense to keep that line.
@domdomdom53964 жыл бұрын
Yes, they restored that connection while demolishing the old track. Here's a picture from 2002 at the freshly paved connection looking down the straight/exit of the Ostkurve that is still here today. www.pro-steilstrecke.de/images/Hockenheimring/AusfahrtOstkurve.jpg
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the additional information!
@foxcraft32078 ай бұрын
I going to the Ostkurve for metal detecting im so exited
@HyperVanilo4 жыл бұрын
So AVUS is a real-life counterpart of Special Stage Route 7 from Gran Turismo 5
@DDS0294 жыл бұрын
And Gran Turismo 4, Gran Turismo 3, etc.
@aussieaudir8lms8714 жыл бұрын
Or special stage route x
@NerfMaster0003 жыл бұрын
Nope, Special Stage Route 7 is based off Route Wangan that stretches from Tokyo to Yokohama.
@rickvisser82964 жыл бұрын
So... Number 2 is a bean-shaped track... Nascar should re-introduce that concept.
@vixenwolfvirtualfarms41854 жыл бұрын
Nascar banking Talladega 33 Daytona 31 2000 Bristol 36 Also number 2 is kinda like trenton an oval with a right kink
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Inderdaad, de vorm van een boon :)
@WynnofThule4 жыл бұрын
*B E A N S*
@Kvapilnation4 жыл бұрын
Actually they used to race on a bean type track called Trenton Speedway
@NaNi-rx2cc4 жыл бұрын
Michigan is like that
@YuriBruschi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing my bike crash in Monza, and for the link of my channel in the video description. I wish happy holidays and a happy 2020 to Herman and Simon! Grazie ciao!
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Grazie e buon anno!
@joestephan11114 жыл бұрын
The Avus banking was not progressive, was paved with bricks, and had no guardrail. A number of name drivers disappeared over the top, most fatal. In the late 1930s Mercedes & Auto Union factory grand prix teams, using fully enclosed wheel & cockpit streamlined bodies, ran the then fastest races ever. But as crazy as the car races were, during that time there were also motorcycle races held at Avus. One of the competitors was a young engineering student named Zora Duntov riding a motorcycle of his own design & construction. He went on to become a designer & builder of top speed equipment and, going to work for General Motors, "godfather" of the Corvette where he took a bad "joke" and made a real sports car out of it. That didn't stop him in 1954 from taking his two week vacation to Le Mans and, though in the employ of GM, co-driving a factory team Porsche to the small car class win.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this interesting story :)
@joestephan11114 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast Thank you, glad I could share. There is a lot of good stuff that has been lost to time and to urban legend/mythology. If you search around KZbin there are some videos from the glory days of Avus. The one I'm looking for is a guy who was Dr Porsche's personal secretary & right hand man, who in the early 1950s went over the top in a 550 Spyder, with the car somehow finding the few trees on the outside which broke his fall, and then driving back around the outside where he unsuccessfully tried to re-enter the race in the badly smashed car. Wildest of all was his staying in it and surviving in an era when road racing drivers didn't wear seat belts, believing it safer to be thrown clear in case of fire. Though I've been around motor sports for 67 of my 72 years I am finding and learning new stuff all the time. Makes it more interesting & enjoyable.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
@@joestephan1111 That's a cool story (or urban legend/mythologie). Never heard about, so I can't help you with that. I only know about a miracle escape in the flat South Corner. But I will do some research to this story.
@joestephan11114 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast Thank you. The first part of his name was Richard von. Last part is falkenburg, valkenburg or something like that. Until his death in a road accident in the early '70s he was the official company historian, editor and writer. He authored the biography of Dr Porsche which included rare factory archive photos & being close to him background far better and accurate than the garbage/brain candy that's out there today. If you can find a copy buy it & read it.
@joestephan11114 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast I just found a bunch of stuff on line about Richard von Frankenburg, including his Avus crash. Go to Google and enter his name in the search box.
@Briz2y4 жыл бұрын
I actually didn't know we had a race circuit in Denmark
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Even Kevin Magnussen didn't know about it. and he's from Roskilde! A Dutch reporter who knew it from me told it him.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
@The Lads Lounge Yeat that's also a peculiar circuit. There are more weird circuits in Scandinavia. A lot are combined with an airfield. Maybe I do a circuit tour through Scandinavia once.
@Gabe-by5zt4 жыл бұрын
Wow det vidste jeg ikke engang...
@samueleliasen45954 жыл бұрын
Jeg bor ca 40 km fra!
@Briz2y4 жыл бұрын
@@samueleliasen4595 ja fandme
@WynnofThule4 жыл бұрын
Who is Hermann again? Tilke?
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
My name is also Herman, but with one n and my family name is not Tilke ;)
@elchungo50264 жыл бұрын
8:00 T H I C C B O I
@dielegende91414 жыл бұрын
I heard Hockenheim was built because the Wildpark track in Karlsruhe was abandoned, is there any truth to that?
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
That's new for me. However, some websites claim it. However, I contacted the Hockenheimring many years ago ( the early years of my website) and get a book with the history. There is nothing said about the Wildpark Track. Actually, the Hockenheimring was an initative from the local motorsport fan Ernst Christ, who want a circuit in his hometown Hockenheim. Maybe the fact the Wildpark Track was cosed helped to get the support of the German Motorsport Association. Here my article about the history of Hockenheim: www.circuitsofthepast.com/hockenheim-circuit/
@Rodeo-Bangers3514 жыл бұрын
The oval circuit at venray is somewhat weird. Not necissarily the circuit itself but the fact that after some issues with the local council they had to move over the circuit to a new (nearby if im not mistaken) plot of land. Not entirely sure though but I remember the old circuit from when I was a little boy
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Bedoel je de oude Baarlo Speedway? Die van Venray is min of meer de opvolger daarvan.
@a2z60s4 жыл бұрын
Venray /Yselsteyn heeft inderdaad 2 locaties, het oude circuit lag ten noorden van de Bakelsedijk, het huidige circuit op amper 300 meter ten zuiden van de Bakelsedijk. (en dan een kwart slag gedraaid)
@Rodeo-Bangers3514 жыл бұрын
Wat a2z60s zegt ja, las het een tijdje terug dus wist niet precies meer hoe het zat, wist alleen zeker dat er een nieuw circuit was gebouwt
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
@@a2z60s Bedankt voor de informatie!
@a2z60s4 жыл бұрын
Op google maps kun je het huidige circuit zien liggen, het oude kun je qua vorm van de begroeiing nog terug zien. p.s. altijd mooie website & video's Herman. Wegberg is amper op 20 km afstand. Bestaat ook een boek van over de historie en natuurlijk het ongeluk wat het einde betekende voor de racerij. mvg Geert
@mc6894 жыл бұрын
No mention of Brno in the Czech Republic? It was a wild street circuit that changed in 1987. The ETCC has some footage. Otherwise. Great video!
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I made a photo tour around the pre war verion of Brno in 2010. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZy9d3iXmZ18apI However, the reason it is not in this video is it is not weird engough :)
@MrLargePig4 жыл бұрын
Bravo, Hermann, and, apparently, Simon!
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Also good you mention Simon. He does a great job.
@flylikealbatross74414 жыл бұрын
5:15 Alpine A610
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a funny moment :)
@Gordanovich024 жыл бұрын
I rather wish that the Hockenheim rebuild (if it happened at all) had stuck with the original idea to connect the first and third chicanes. A long sweeping right-hand curve would have retained a lot of the character of the old track.
@joestephan11113 жыл бұрын
Published maps (books etc) I have of 1950s Hockenheim show no chicanes.
@sl0wman0474 жыл бұрын
Gelsenkircken 😂
@lobby55_774 жыл бұрын
Beste Aussprache
@michaelwerner35214 жыл бұрын
Nordkörf
@soundlessbird91814 жыл бұрын
Like 04, they sux
@mrrolandlawrence4 жыл бұрын
the avus was just a temple for speed. hence the 2 long straights. nice to see the track in spain has plans to open again!
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
I heard they are building a horse track inside Sitges-Terramar, as part of the project to preserve the banking.
@somebloke22384 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one genuinely saddened by this
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
You're not the only one. Some people tell me they cried, especially about old Hockenheim.
@geesek57764 жыл бұрын
How sad is to see some tracks rotting away Amazing vid
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yah it's allways mixed feeling when exploring some bygone motorsport history. At one side it are very cool locations to explore. But on the other side it's motorsport history fading away.
@PaulMcElligott4 жыл бұрын
Stiges-Terramar was featured in an episode of _The Grand Tour_ (Season 2, #8), where the boys competed to see who was bravest by seeing who could hit the highest speed in a speed trap.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
I know, but long before I drove the banking. Here the story: www.circuitsofthepast.com/sitges-terramar-track-visit/
@darkfoxly72274 жыл бұрын
I love ovals racing but that Grenzlandring look so strange oval to me
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
A street oval :) That's why it is in this top 10.
@chrissss6964 жыл бұрын
Autodromo di Pergusa?
@verdiguy4 жыл бұрын
Ah, AVUS and it's "Wall of Death". I can't imagine racing on a 43 degree banked slope. Brave, brave men. Have you ever visited Zeltweg air field, the site of the original Austrian Grand Prix on your travels? The whole surface was concrete pads that came up in sections during the race and shattered a few suspensions.Are you excited about Zandvoort returning? Have you been able to get a sense of how the updates to the track will impact the circuit's ability to host Formula 1? I'd be interested in getting your insight as a frequent visitor to the track.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
I visited the old Österreichring, but not the Zeltweg Airfield. Actually, it's a military airfield so filming there could bring me in trouble. About Zandvoort: When I heard about bringing back F1 I was worried about the adjustments. There was a terrible plan from the late 80's to cut off the Gerlach and Hugenholtz Corners to enlarge the paddock. That would destroy the character of the classic track. But fortunately, they cancelled that plan. The FIA accepts the narrow paddock. The changes to the track are mostly to the new section. So the character of the track will not be destroyed. Now I'm happy F1 is back to the Netherlands and I look forward to the Grand Prix.
@verdiguy4 жыл бұрын
I've seen quite a few You Tube videos of the recent work that people have filmed using drones. The banked sections look pretty interesting and from what I can see, they have done a terrific job of maintaining the look and feel of the track. And, best of all they didn't let Tilke Design near it. I have very fond memories of Zandvoort as the first race I really remember watching when I was a boy was the 1973 Dutch Grand Prix. Jackie Stewart won but it was also a dark day as Roger Williamson died in a horrible crash during the race.Thanks for the update, I'm looking forward to Zandvoort and the first weekend of May.
@DavidRSAT4 жыл бұрын
10:45 made me vomit.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, even after 17 years, emotions run high when I publsih about old Hockenheim.
@thomasroth844 жыл бұрын
It is worth noting that the Norisring also used todays layout with longer straights instead of the over/under thing. The Grundigkehre (Turn 1) was a lot further down the road with the length being 3,7km. It was shortened after Pedro Rodriguez fatal accident in 1971. Sachsenring also worth checking out, especially the old street circuit layout. Not only was it part of the MotoGP in the 60's and 70's, but it also held GDR Formula car races as well as a final hooray after the reunification of Germany with IDM Superbike. If you drive from the A4 Autobahn to the circuit, you drive on the final section of the old track. Warning, speed camera!
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
I drove a few laps on the old Sachsenring in 2016 and noticed the speed cameras ;) Especially the old MTS-Kurve was very cool. Here the lap I filmed there: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqa7d3uZfd59g7c Note: This onboard needs an update with voiceover.
@FelipeFreiredeSouza4 жыл бұрын
Old Monza was good for suicidal drivers. Insane track.
@brunodurcek28684 жыл бұрын
For me the weirdest and fun track is porsche test track
@plazasta4 жыл бұрын
Bruno Ďurček Leipzig? Yeah, it's like 10 different race tracks built into one. I love it too!
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for attending me to this track. Maybe I contact them for a visit if I make a circuit tour in Germany again :)
@pauls57454 жыл бұрын
lovely compendium of some racing history. some footage of races on these forgotten tracks still exist. sometimes you can find original 8mm films for sale online
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information!
@ohiopower4 жыл бұрын
Funny. Shumacher retired shortly after. And the Lausitzring never really lived up to expectation. I read Dekra bought it and closed it down for major events and was just gonna use it for testing. So they could have left Hockenhiem the way it was. They would still have a German GP. And the fans around the world would have a unique track to watch motorsport on.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
I agree. Afterwards you can say that everything was for nothing.
@javichaguin15934 жыл бұрын
Great job, thanks!
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@senorsoupe3 жыл бұрын
The old Monza also hosted the fascinating "Race of Two Worlds" in 1958 and 1959 between Formula One cars and Indycars
@DocTommy19724 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember 8:00 from Geoff Crammond's GP games. I nearly cried
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
I remember it from real.
@Comet7014 жыл бұрын
My biggest memory is the Jos Verstappen pitfire there. You can see it every other week during the F1 opening credits, where they decided to put Max's burning dad in the background of young Verstappen's portrait :)
@jeffrielly4 жыл бұрын
5:07 stuck behind farming equipment again lol
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a cool moment. Fortunately I could overtake it immediately (after the Alpine). At the Grenzlandring I had more bad luck, when I stucked behind hay wagons. And at Spa-Francorchamps my laps were hampered by slow driving tourists.
@paulfromperth57134 жыл бұрын
The new Hockenheim track is very boring and dull, just like most of the F1 circuits. I’d love to see more banked corners incorporated into today’s tracks like those of the old Monza.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Well, at Zandvoort they built new banked corners.So maybe it's the beginning of a rebirth of the banking.
@bronzite_2 жыл бұрын
13:43 the lads at The Grand Tour know how easy it is to get these two mixed up
@ddt36194 жыл бұрын
What's the car at 5:15? As you can tell by my comment i'm only at that time into the video, but i'm loving it👍 Update will be added Update: yeah i loved it, those old circuits are just something else, thanks for keeping those memories alive. A shame some of those racetracks are abandoned, but sometimes is their decaying state that gives them such a special feeling. See you below your next video
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
The car at 5:15 is a Renault Alpine. I agree, at one side it's sad to see circuits left abandoned. But on the other side it's also very cool to visit them and enjoy the strange atmosphere :)
@mattmattmatt1313134 жыл бұрын
Dude...pause the video... read... RENAULT _Alpine_ ... write in browser... search images... find the car... find the name.
@ddt36194 жыл бұрын
@@mattmattmatt131313 didn't see it first time
@Team_Nico_Motorsport3 жыл бұрын
@@ddt3619 a610 alpine
@Mistertbones4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Too many tracks these days are similar, so I'm glad that the designers of these tracks had different ideas.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Very good point!
@baktru4 жыл бұрын
Mettet! I've raced there! In regularity racing. We had to go around that roundabout to get to the parking lot of the now "normal" Mettet track to grab a Time Control there. Then we had to get through that weird roundabout again to get to our next Regularity stage coincidentally the best stage of the entire 650km race.
@scouttrooper12154 жыл бұрын
1:40 i actually live like 5 minutes away from the ring my grandpa was at the race in 52 and after that it got integratet into the streets. One of my best friends lives like 200 meters from a part of it so yeah a lot of memories
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
So your grandpa was at the tragic race of 1952? By the way: Here my lap on the Grenzlandring at normal speed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6eQeWmfgMmWaLM
@muhammadrahmanadinoto25324 жыл бұрын
They should've keep the old hockenheim course as a 2nd gp layout or maybe as a track for cart/champ car/indycar while the f1 and dtm use the new layout
@soundlessbird91814 жыл бұрын
I think old Hockenheim should be endurance layout
@brett22bt4 жыл бұрын
lol... "maybe the locals can organize a pedal bike race"... and have a vegan picnic and sit around talking about how they can ruin some more peoples fun.
@HigherPlainGames4 жыл бұрын
That made me genuinely laugh out loud.
@Razz4154 жыл бұрын
Nice thing about the US. I live in a small town, we have a drag strip south of town. Cant hear it as we are about 8 miles away. But I'm a few minutes away for a ton of fun. No worries about racing to close to residences.
@MrRofl1314 жыл бұрын
Best memory from the AVUS ring. Alex Würz in his formula 3 car gets hit from behind by the safety car.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Or Dieter Quester who finished upside down in a DTM race. By the way, it's just AVUS, without ring.
@ianlawrie9194 жыл бұрын
Fascinating content, riveting viewing.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@robin_marriott5 ай бұрын
I know this is a 4 year old upload but I’m in the midst of planning a road trip through Germany and Italy amongst other places and this video has given me the info I was looking for about access at Monza and Hockenheim. I’ll also be passing the Norisring and staying nearby overnight but I’m really not sure I’m comfortable being a tourist who is visiting that… architecture.
@jimpern2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the Norisring will always be remembered as the site of the fatal accident of Pedro Rodriguez during a sports car race in 1971.
@krananlegg58494 жыл бұрын
Was actually at the 01 race @ Hockenheim. Had seats in Jim Clark curve... Makes me furious looking at what the track has become. Mount Fuji, also a strange track. Was there ever f1 racing there?
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Yes, in 1976 (the famous race were Lauda withdrawal because of the heavy rain and Hunt became champion) and 1977. And in 2007 and 2008 F1 was back at Fuji for 2 more years.
@bingbingwow4 жыл бұрын
I love how you make "Gelsenkirchen" sound like a Finnish town!
@mikespearwood39144 жыл бұрын
Is that supposed to be correct German pronunciation?
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Come on, Simon is a native English speaker and Motodrom Gelsenkichten is difficult for him. However, I think he does a great job with the voice-over. I'm Dutch and I speak German, so for me it's not that difficult. In this vlog you here me saying "Motodrom Gelsenkirchen": kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn7Jep6XoZWGhbM
@DatFinnishGuy4 жыл бұрын
Wtf, if u can make Turku sound like DurchschedschdagenChrgchshesenrku, grats.
@tomdrex3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! Really great stuff for a racing-addict like myself. Slightly disturbing is the strange music, when talking about old German tracks like Avus and Norisring ...
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
I always try to add music that is as appropriate as possible. The march at the Norisring is a reference to the original function of the site. The number at the AVUS is called 'Old Berlin'. It couldn't be more appropriate.
@Baltuc_Racing4 жыл бұрын
Roskilde_ringen 💪 Use to live 5min away 😀
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Than you can play golf on the old track ;)
@Baltuc_Racing4 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast yep if watergolf is ur thang 🤣
@Gracievision4 жыл бұрын
Pescara was very typical of its time, just not for a Formula 1 race.
Full Monza would be so sick for stock car racing. Too many Gs to pull for F1 tho, unfortunately
@kavverist4 жыл бұрын
AVUS looks like a cotton bud ngl
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
lol
@frankly882 жыл бұрын
Norisring is a fav of mine. There is a really in depth doco on it called Europa: The Last Battle i highly recommend to watch
@Xs2...5 ай бұрын
Never knew where the name Noris(ring) came from. Now I know. Thanks.
@DerThuringerM4 жыл бұрын
Ich fände es auch interessant, wenn du uns die Strecken auf Satellitenbildern zeigst. Dann kann man das vielleich auch besser vergleichen. Aber ein sehr informatives Video.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Danke! Die Verwendung von Satellitenbildern ist aus urheberrechtlichen Gründen schwierig. Genau wie bei alten Aufnahmen.
@NaNi-rx2cc4 жыл бұрын
Terramar at this moment is being converted into a horse racing complex
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
And what about the banking?
@NaNi-rx2cc4 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast the old track will remain intact, and the complex will be inside, ah, and its not the typical 1 mile horse racing, its just horse jumping
@liam22374 жыл бұрын
Germans build a lot of weird tracks😂 Ja wir haben schon komische Strecken gemacht Leute
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
The Aussies also built a lot of weird race tracks. Buit for me as a dutchman, Germany is much closer :)
@d1want343 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@soundlessbird91814 жыл бұрын
My recommendation: Taiwan Speedway in Lungtan, Taoyuan,Taiwan. It is a track, even only 2.5 km roughly(roval), but with a oval and a road course. And the oval have NO banking!
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information!
@jonhart91764 жыл бұрын
Here's a track we raced at in 2008, in FIA GT1. Argentina. circuit poterro de flume
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
There was also a very cool street circuit in Park Palermo in Buenos Aires.
@jonhart91764 жыл бұрын
I have many of the tracks you mentioned today on my simulator
@caspardejonge59024 жыл бұрын
I know that one from the computer, great track!!
@nachoalvarez71714 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast yea they raced there in Formula e before
@nachoalvarez71714 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast i went there once
@brianferus92925 ай бұрын
I thought you would have done the Targa Florio, I can't imagine practicing on open roads for 40 to 45 miles.
@Circuitsofthepast5 ай бұрын
It's still on my to do list.
@Bastian_Zugnappen334 жыл бұрын
I love all your Video! You are the best, Cheers from Bayern 🏎🏁🇩🇪
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Danke!
@Streetl3gal3 жыл бұрын
Number 2 has been used by Topgear/the Grand Tour a few years ago
@holgerfritz48194 жыл бұрын
Your German translation needs work. Curve = Kurv e and Corner = Ecke. However the English prefer to name race track direction changes as corners and Germans prefer to describe them as curves.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Ich rede selbst fließend Deutsch. Aber der Sprecher ist ein englischer Muttersprachler. Mann kann nicht alles haben, nah? ;) Sehe auch diese Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mn7Jep6XoZWGhbM
@toucheturtle3840 Жыл бұрын
Hockenheim was one my favourite circuits. Utterly ruined.
@Circuitsofthepast Жыл бұрын
I recentely visited the site of old Hockenheim again. Here footage from this year: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2ikpnuumZh-a6c
@titaxlp36773 жыл бұрын
"Ring" stands actually for circle. The german word for race circuit is "Renn strecke"
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
Rennstrecke, nicht Renn strecke ;)
@yudi86624 жыл бұрын
How about use Formula E car for abandoned race track cause noise complaint?
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
That coiuld be a solution those days. But for most circuits it's too late. Maybe they can reopen Morano-Po for electic racing. The circuit closed because of noise complaints in the 1970's. Since then the site is left abandoned but could be refurbished. Check this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXjdn6ekdrFkl5I
@ColeYote4 жыл бұрын
#1 AVUS? I miss old Hockenheimring. Wait, the Norisring has a standing Nazi government building right next to it? That's... why haven't they demolished it? Yep, AVUS. Anyway, here's some other weird ones: * Targa Florio * Carrera Panamericana * The parking lot of Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas * Reims * Juan y Oscar Galvez, specifically the layout with the really long straights that go around the lake * Old Spa-Francorchamps * Macau, which features probably the single worst turn on any racetrack on the planet, I mean it's so bad it's literally considered a permanent yellow flag zone * Symmons Plains, which is weirdly similar to the Norisring for a permanent circuit * Queensland Raceway * Warwick Farm * Calder Park, specifically the road + oval layout
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the list of other weird circuits. But this is my selection of weird circuits I visited. By the way: old Hockenheim is at number 6 at 7:55.
@Dilley_G452 жыл бұрын
Why don't they demolish every building of the soviet union? It's just a building...
@Mercedes-Benz_CLK_LM Жыл бұрын
That footage of Monza banking is impeccable. I`m extremely lucky to find this movie! Appreciate it! The process of circuits history researching inspires me, especially, street circuits(AVUS).
@WuffiePhoenix3 жыл бұрын
I think, the "European Speedway" in Germany is too verry weird
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
You mean the Eurospeedway aka Lausitzring. That's a kind of a weird circuit, but not weird enough for this video. Anyway, I visited in 2016. Here the video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2THg6Cvgct0f5Y
@MrSpanks4 жыл бұрын
Who the fuck is Herman?!
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
I'm Herman, the founder and owner of wbsite and KZbin channel "Circuits of the past".
@MrSpanks4 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast Oh, hi Herman! Really interesting videos - thanks
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
@@MrSpanks You're welcome!
@vinctendo_tv4 жыл бұрын
The way how "Reichsparteitagsgelände" was pronounced sounded like some finnish dish I guess :D Try to seperate the word, so you read "Reichs-partei-tags-gelände" should make it a bit easier for a non-native ;)
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Ich rede ja fließend Deutsch und kann Reichsparteitagsgelände aussprechen. Simon, der das Voice-Over macht, ist ein englischer Muttersprachler. Es ist also schwieriger für ihn. Trotzdem macht er einen perfekten Job für meinen Kanal. Herman
@vinctendo_tv4 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast Euer Kanal ist ja auch supper, ich fands nur ein bisschen witzig, wie's klang, dann dachte ich man könnte ja mal nen nützlichen Tipp geben ;)
@andyjamess4 жыл бұрын
Re: Monza. I am sure they had a makeshift wall between the 2 tracks
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Yes there was a makeshift wall in the middle of the wide Start/Finish straight.
@BagusWidyanto_HappyIn19974 жыл бұрын
Chuck Noris = Chuck Nuremberg? 🤔
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
That's Chuck Norris ;)
@BagusWidyanto_HappyIn19974 жыл бұрын
Ahh I get it Chuck Norris = Chuck Nurremberg
@darvish20124 жыл бұрын
#2 has double the banking at Daytona and Talledaga in the US with 31 and 33 degree respectively.
@martingaleana14934 жыл бұрын
7:48 are you ok
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Yuri was OK after his crash on the Monza banking.
@YuriBruschi3 жыл бұрын
Ciao, i'm fine after my crash
@jochenwagner51702 жыл бұрын
This is in Deutschland? This few places look like Afghanistan! What the f.?
@Circuitsofthepast2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever been in Afghanistan?
@jochenwagner51702 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast in Germany everyday! By tv of the government.🤪
@samomega26162 жыл бұрын
Top gear or grand tour did a episode at the Spanish oval circuit
@Circuitsofthepast2 жыл бұрын
Yeas I know. But I was there already in 2008 ;)
@joestephan11114 жыл бұрын
Pescara continued to have endurance sports car races, including on the championship schedule.
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
And it closed for racing after the 1961 season. However, when I was there in 2007 there was a temporary grandstand at Start/Finsih, and they also painted the S/F line on the road. I have no idea what the reason was. Maybe the Giro d'Italia? Here my article of the history of Pescara: www.circuitsofthepast.com/pescara-circuit/
@samuele642464 жыл бұрын
I'm Italian from Pescara and unfortunately a part some "revocation" no race because now it's a traffic road
@joestephan11114 жыл бұрын
@@samuele64246 Hi Samuele; the last Pescara race I found online reference to says it was held there in 1964. I first have great interest, and admiration for the drivers, of races held over closed off public roads. They were the bravest & best ever. Pescara is special to me because my mother's parents came to America from that area 100 years ago.
@joestephan11113 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast Could all of that be for historical preservation or rememberance? Both Rheims & the Targa Florio have museums and are preserving & restoring their grandstands.
@joestephan11113 жыл бұрын
And, again, thank you for all of the excellent material you search out & provide. Your channel is one of the best racing historical spots on all of You Tube.😎
@russcattell955i3 жыл бұрын
Who else can remember watching F3 races at Avus in the 80's on the excellent "Screensport" channel.
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
I remember the DTM and F3 races from the late 80's on Eurosport. In 1991 we got Screensport here (in the Netherlands) too. A few years later Screensport merged with Eurosport.
@russcattell955i3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast As I remember, Eurosport bought out Screensport & gradually killed the content. Now here in France Eurosport is a pay channel.
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's correct. They bought it and actually eliminated the concurrent. If I remember well, Screensport had the rights for IndyCar, which was since then broadcasted by Eurosport.
@AndreiTupolev4 жыл бұрын
Alpine A610? Nice
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a cool sprint :)
@francoisdvanderwesthuizen4 жыл бұрын
15.55 does that resemble a sugar bean, sure can be
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
It looks like.
@lferreiraalvarenga4 жыл бұрын
Old Hockenheimring 😢
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a weird race track :)
@QemeH4 жыл бұрын
17:25 - A better translation would be "automobile traffic and TESTING road" (as in testing [effects on] automobile traffic like lane closure or waves of a traffic jam, etc.)
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@mp24x3 жыл бұрын
Where i can find the old layout of the pescara circuit in the google Earth, literally i can't found it 😢😢
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
That's difficult because it's a huge circuit. You can look for the last angle point in Montesylvano. Then you follow the long straight. The first corner is near the railroad station.
@mp24x3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast so the first corner is near the mumbo jumbo?
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
@@mp24x Follow Via Michelangelo. On the site of the first corner is now a roundabout around a park. Then you turn right to a tunnel underneath the railway track, near the railway station.
@mp24x3 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast owh ok thank you Herman
@frdml014 жыл бұрын
I've lived in Stuttgart for 5 years, and there used to be the Solitude race track. Also a street circuit, with a length varying from 22km in the beginning to 11km later. The finish tower is still there: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitude_Racetrack#/media/File:Solitude-Rennstrecke_Start-_und_Zielturm.jpg
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
I know about the Solitude Ring. I was there in 2016. Here my videos: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKXdfpKNpM6Br9E
@maj28133 жыл бұрын
Montlery didn't make the top 10? Huh. :)
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
Not the Top 10 weirdest circuits, but it is the Top 10 pre-war GP tracks: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZOUopmGpdxjnaM
@maj28133 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast Montlhery was still in use for Euro Formula 3 in the 1990s. Possibly into the 2000s and French championship stuff.
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
@@maj2813 It is still operational. That it is in my top 10 of pre-war GP tracks doesn't mean it should be closed now.
@draganluzija38233 жыл бұрын
5:07 that is local safety car
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
Than we both overtook the safety car :O
@owenthornley89544 жыл бұрын
The grand tour went to Terramar
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
But I was earlier: www.circuitsofthepast.com/sitges-terramar-track-visit/
@leonardocodirenzi2284 Жыл бұрын
Vecchi ricordi sempre piacevoli
@Circuitsofthepast Жыл бұрын
Grazie
@air8orne7344 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thx!
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@varalobaone43393 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, very interesting and informative - thank you Herman
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@WuffiePhoenix3 жыл бұрын
Wie all diese deutschen Namen und so in Englisch klingen 😂
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
Deshalb nehme ich sie jetzt regelmäßig selbst auf, wie hier: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3aQdJxql7Zlf80
@ElChasco_official4 жыл бұрын
The 50s Monza south banking is not in the exact same space as the old one. Is more on the north the newer one
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
I know. Simon (voiceover) said its's ALMOST on the same site.
@shvalovpavel92434 жыл бұрын
Old Nepliget-park circuit in Budapest is also worth mentioning
@Circuitsofthepast4 жыл бұрын
Yes that was also a weird circuit, with it's twisty layout. However, not weird enough for this top 10 ;) In 2002 and 2010 I visited it. This slide show was photographed in 2010: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmeWoHRjnZVlgsk Next tme I make a real video. By the way: During photographing the lap a drifter scared me by shouting very loudly from the bushes.
@TheNachtschrei1233 жыл бұрын
where ist the panzerplatte in germany? the best loop ever ;)
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
That's a rally stage.
@TheNachtschrei1233 жыл бұрын
@@Circuitsofthepast yeah but there is a round course version. :)
@Circuitsofthepast3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I will do some research. I understood that it is not far from the Nürburging, so I can have a look when I visit te Nürburgring.