Cities After... The Business of Homelessness

[@daviddestin1990]

As a Katrine refugee I have to say _ thank you for addressing this. it is monstrous to deny humans shelter.

[@marianhunt8899]

Our society is regressing not progressing.. Don't be fooled by the fact we have a smartphone! My grandparents had a humble hovel to live in.. Now people are dying on our streets. We have become a savage, malignantly greedy dog eat dog society where the oligarchs use philantrophy to toss down a few gold coins to the working peasants.

[@tinabraxton4906]

I would say our society is breaking down. "Regressing" implies a temporary reversal. I hope that's all it is. But I fear we have come to the end of an era. People still build hovels, tents, and other simple homes. But these get bulldozed or crushed in a garbage truck, by people paid with tax dollars.

[@abc21000]

Dear Friend, Superb Analysis !! Iam from India and in our cities we have the problem of Slums. Living under terrible pathetic living conditions in a Slum is even more worse. Living in a Slum doesnt mean Living in a small home... It is worst than being without home. Request you to also work upon Slum problem that exists in countries like India and other developing countries. Till now no one has bothered about it... Thanks and Keep up the Good Work !!

[@DerekSpeareDSD]

No good society can allow poverty when it allows prosperity. Homelessness is a moral failing: It is a moral failing of the society that allows it. Indeed it is critical to understand that every person has the fundamental right to a habitable dwelling. All basic human needs must be met by any sane society. Not only are many more people than the government estimates unhoused, I would guess that the number of people who live in housing precarity is likely half the American population who lives in a dwelling. If humanity doesn't kill capitalism, capitalism will kill humanity. Remember this forever: Capitalism is so craven that it seeks only to profit from the horrors it creates, not solutions to fixing them.

[@theageofgoddess]

💯

[@Bewefau]

well its not free, someone has to pay for it.

[@Bewefau]

the problem isn't capitalism. It works. Look at George Soros, David Rockefeller, Bill Gates, IBM. Apple, Dell, HP you think they are not successful ? It works the problem is after it worked for all of them, they turn around and try to block it form working for someone else because they don't competition., They want to be corrupt, that isn't a capitalism's fault. That's all on there greedy ass's. We do not have capitalism right now we have crony capitalism "an economic system characterized by close, mutually advantageous relationships between business leaders and government officials"

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Very eloquently said Derek. 👏 👏

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

@@Bewefau yes, and the federal govt can choose to do so. It gives billions and millions to the biggest industries aka "wall Street" every year, plus 1T for the military industrial complex, but comparative pennies for social needs. You should see this as wrong. In a country as well off as ours, there's no reason for everyone not to be able to access methods to meet their basic needs. Also, we can all continue to pay our taxes while demanding they are used in better ways. Finally - what should happen to you if you ever fall on hard times?? If you don't have friends or family to help you? Perhaps some charity will step in. But if there isn't one when you need it to meet your need??? What then?? You just suffer?? Why?? I don't want that. No, you should have another option. OR - we can have, at a minimum, enough public programs and services in place, aka "safety net programs" to help take care of people in need. I mean these things will exist for you too if you ever need them. By raising taxes on big business and the 1%, we can easily provide for everyone.

[@dad102]

Well informed. Well spoken. Impressive presentation. So true.

[@sab_1055]

I often enjoy irony, but the disparity between the few and the many in New York paints a sickening picture. I used to be comfortable with capitalism. The unfettered control of the housing market by wealthy investors with an insatiable appetite for extravagance has changed my mind. Greed and wasted funding are the source of the problem, not laziness and not addiction. I know too many homeless people who work grueling full time jobs to believe otherwise. The disregard for the elderly, the domestic violence victims, the children and the veterans of war who are dying as a result of that greed is not unlike genocide. At best, the victims have a shortened life span. Thank you for speaking about it. I hope you're not only preaching to the choir.

[@tinabraxton4906]

Excellent report. Thanks for posting this. I was homeless for years and saw these same things from the inside. HUD's figure is based on an annual count that is only supposed to determine how funding for homeless services should be apportioned between municipalities. It does not and cannot indicate how many people are homeless, since most are simply not found. But the media reports it as a homeless census. One year, when the count was about 450K, the media reported this as a decrease in homelessness. But Dept. of Education statistics showed 2.5 million homeless schoolchildren. We knew very well there were a lot more, because many parents conceal their children's homelessness, for fear of losing custody. And there are babies, toddlers, and other children not in school, and, of course, homeless adults. The real homeless population in the US is probably between 20 and 30 million. Eradication of homelessness, when it comes, will be eradication of homeless people. They will use machine guns, or gas, or burn us in our tents. We are already being set up as scapegoats. The homeless industrial complex will probably be part of that. Homelessness as a condition would be easy to end. Just build housing. It doesn't have to be fancy. Just cheap. We used to live in old hotels and apartments, till those were torn down. After WW2, the US built lots of housing (also funded jobs and education), because they were afraid of 26 million returning vets, who knew how to use high-tech weaponry and would not want to resume the Great Depression economy that preceded the war. As for Germany, it is well known that after the Wall came down, the West carpetbagged the East. That would account for some, though perhaps not all, of the housing privatisation. Capitalism uber alles! The proportion of homeless people in the German population, as wel as the actual number, is much lower than it is the US.

[@peaceleader7315]

As an Australian especially Queenslander we feel like we are slowly turning and becoming America.. hmmmm.. especially when homeless are on the rise and the gap between the rich and the poor is widening.. hmmmm.. American style of neo_liberalism Oligopoly must be avoided at all costs.. Message to the commonwealth league of nations... hmmmm.. we must.. said Yoda.. hmmmm..

[@sevens3]

This guy knows what's up

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Weird how never having rent control has brought us to now with these insane brazen rents. What a nightmare time we're living in. These monsters in charge are really out to just kill off a whole chunk of us, housed or not.

[@theageofgoddess]

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[@LongDefiant]

A billionaire only sees the need for about 250,000 workers to maintain their lifestyle. Multiply the number of billionaires by that number and the rest become excess people. They see most of us as a waste of space and resources.

[@theageofgoddess]

Thank you for sharing your expertise on this issue. I've bordered on homelessness for years now whether employed or not. And I'm not an addict nor am I insane, it's just the reality for already marginalized people dealing with health issues & disabilities, and I live a very simple life. People get rich exploiting people like me in this country. I stayed at a shelter for two weeks & I felt treated like a prisoner, it was a strange experience. It's run like a prison.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Some shelters are better and more tolerable than others, but some can be quite unpleasant. I've used a few over the years. They were ok but all had their issues.

[@marianhunt8899]

The elite treat humanity like cattle to be make profit from.

[@martinholsinger1932]

One of the best Cities After episodes I have heard--and I have listened to them all! Clear, factual, and passionate. Thank you!

[@kevintewey1157]

Trying to reform a capitalist system will never solve the Homeless Problem

[@jaysphilosophy1951]

I worked full time while sleeping in my car for six months last year before finally finding a place. I left work, showered at the gym, and slept in the parking lot. I was not alone either. There were several other employees who were also sleeping in there cars. This is a lot more common these days

[@guidosillaste4297]

This is why they want to ban petrol car. Taking away the last sleeping place.

[@kevintewey1157]

Too bad you have to protect the name of your scumbag employer

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

It's so disgusting that many cities have Pigs that specifically go out to harass and do harm to people sleeping in their cars, bc they have bylaws against "public sleeping". Humans have no right to life or to survive in the US, housed or not. That's what happens when demons and savages take over. .

[@terriej123]

@@guidosillaste4297 the vehicles don’t need to move for people to sleep in them. And they can sleep in electric cars too. What powers the vehicle has nothing to do with whether it can be used as shelter.

[@larryhatfield7372]

I lived in the Mazda motel until I changed occupation, it sucks but it really made me pull my head out of my azz

[@alphaomega1351]

In America 🇺🇸, homelessness exists literally for no good reason. And I'm not even talking about the usual self destructive types [drug addicts and criminals]. I'm talking the working class! People with jobs that are priced out or those recently unemployed through no fault of their own. 😶

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Yep. I pray for change. Rent for a barely average 2 bdrm has now reached $2500 by me. I'd never thought I'd see this day. Just found that out too. Made me sick. For govt officials who claim they don't like homelessness, they are doing EVERYTHING in their power to cause it. Madness!

[@marianhunt8899]

There is a reason for it. Billionaires make huge profit from this human misery. We are just cattle to them. There to extract profit from. We are a 'resource' for them.

[@yorsan2240]

If elite bankers allow homeless to be sheltered who's going to pay them for housing? a lot more people will definitely stop paying their lifetime mortgage taking almost all their hard worked hours

[@yorsan2240]

Besides many of those who paid off their homes aren't saying as slaves until death. That's the reason why they tied properties with taxes and keep increasing it every year, slaves shouldn't be easily breaking free

[@vivalaleta]

Excellent description of events. Subscribed.

[@bobjary9382]

Working in homelessness myself I was putting a sticking plaster on a preventable wound. Only people jaded by using the system repeatedly or those who had taken time to educate themselves about services would not be upset at the low quality and quantity of provision once they realiaed . I became homeless in 2017 and could not face the prospect of using the system I knew so well so started squatting empty commercial properties instead

[@trinleywangmo]

I hope your situation improves. We all deserve better.

[@bobjary9382]

@trinleywangmo Thank you ! I had four years of squatting, with the right crew it can be really ok .Of course there are plenty of folk who have enduring problems that can be a real challenge to live with too. We tend to think poverty and homelessness means misery and low self worth, it reminds the working poor they are uncomfortably close to the workhouse or the gutter. Fortunately I seem immune to the upside down values of our developed world and feel happy wherever I am, as long as I have the love of friends and family. But thank you for your concern x

[@trinleywangmo]

@@bobjary9382 Friends are the very reason I'm even alive right now... so, I hear you. Not many precarious people like us are that fortunate.

[@bobjary9382]

@trinleywangmo Me too . I survive bc of the good people I know. One Love

[@roberto-ey8ii]

Excellent. Thank you

[@kmnl926]

It works exactly as designed, money before people. We need to change the system before it can get better.

[@KBTadieh]

The problem I've noticed in the west is not the politicians rather the people aren't interested in looking out for each other. Westerners generally aren't interested in communal living which would solve this problem very easily. It's a VERY individualistic society so if you fall, you're on your own!

[@Bewefau]

why look out after a crack head who's just going to steal from you?

[@Bewefau]

but yes the politicians are part of the problem.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

@@Bewefau I mean, ok but are most people "crackheads"? No ofc not.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Yes that's it. "You're on your own" is the mantra here. It's a real shame. I wish we could have an awakening of a general attitude of greater respect for community ties and a sense of community responsibility here.

[@KBTadieh]

@@Bewefau Ironically Jesse James the criminal used to steal from train coaches that belonged to rich people and would give it to the poor. Yet here you are using his name to defend selfishness. Did you even know about Jesse James?? Like y'all are SOOOOOOOO lost it's not even funny. Community is ALWAYS better than individualism!

[@lesliestenta3084]

I never got used to homelessness. I’m from HawAii. Our politicians sold out to luxury developers. Dozens of opulent, grotesque multimillion were built in Kaakako.Right across the street is a huge tent citiy. Tent cities at every single park in Honolulu . This has been happening for around 20 years now. What really bothers me is the attitude of my friends and coworkers, “ They want to be homeless “ the lack of empathy or compassion is infuriating. Many Rich Chinese have bought many of those apartments, they don’t live there, they don’t contribute anything except to raise housing prices and lack of inventory. Sad😅

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

I think you mean 😟😣😓 But yeah. All that extra tax flow.... Nothing to help rehouse these folks. Typical

[@wellnesspathforme6236]

The rusty iron filings "fortified" into the food supply under false pretenses (they make babies less healthy as evidenced by... less healthy babies over time) are damaging mitochondria, which then causes symptoms that result in stories called diseases. This includes mental diseases. Bio-copper plays a role as well. Too much zinc depleted my bio-copper and my energy/will/motivation crashed hard. I'm still doing all I know how to try and get back to where I was, which wasn't particularly fantastic then, either. Look up Dr. Chris Palmer, Morley Robbins and Dr. Thomas Seyfried.

[@wellnesspathforme6236]

Look up Dr. Chris Palmer, Morley Robbins and Dr. Thomas Seyfried. Just in case my other post was ghosted...

[@paulyayala2645]

YOU ARE A WORKER OF THE LIGHT AND I AM ON THAT SAME TEAM MY BROTHER……!!!

[@olgacvetkova114]

Very informative 👍 There is something to think about. Thank you for the time you spent creating this video!

[@terriej123]

We need to DO something about it. Not just think about it. But I suspect that you agree.

[@phyllisjackson4322]

Think about? How about DO something about?

[@olgacvetkova114]

I DO what l CAN at the moment: l support progressive socialist movement, share information, talk to people around me, volunteer. Not too bad for someone who has a family and full time job, right?

[@yorsan2240]

​@olgacvetkova114 we have a bigger problem then the homelessness, elite bankers are about to have full control of everything around the world, including our abilities of funding, their digital money is another level of control, the same greedy few who causes homelessness are taking the world to themselves

[@kerripendragon4888]

Homelessness is way more that 600,000 people in 🇺🇸 USA. They're cooking the data books.

[@borisnegrarosa9113]

Important topic. A problem affecting every city in the world. Every time I travel to Germany things just seem to get worse.

[@boombot934]

❤ Thank you❤🌹🙏, dear D@W team and Miguel Roblez Duran! 😊Humanity shall be free from the parasite oppressors!

[@dmrexter]

Such a brilliant talk

[@djcfair]

Dude was actually spitting fire in the last half

[@user-oz6qe4sx1s]

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[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

The whole thing

[@iart2838]

Very enlightening and quite surreal. Shameful!

[@paulyayala2645]

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WISE EXPOSURE OF THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT OF THE CORPORATE STATE WE MUST COME TOGETHER IN ONE MIND AND ONE ACCORD IN UNITY IF WE ARE GOING TO MAKE ANY CHANGES!!!

[@laurasweeney2546]

Where do homeless people get bank accounts if banks require physical homes for them to get their small paychecks?😢

[@ColinAdventures]

Depends on the state. There are legal ways to get a residential address in a number of states without an apartment or house. Maintaining a professional license can be a little more challenging though. Also, don’t assume that our paychecks are necessarily small.

[@jonno.alexander]

When I was homeless I still had a network. I used a proxy address for tax forms that I got from another family member (they couldn't host me on a couch, but I could use their mailbox for legal needs).

[@Athanael777]

Thanks for sharing your insights in this very important topic.

[@tee5634]

Thanks for your detailed, concise, and educational report. I would also add that homelessness involve social ingenering. It's not a mistake the unemployment and homelessness exist all over the world. The creator God pours down blessings of food, water, ideal environment on us everyday. Man's greed turn these blessings into he'll on earth. We don't need more prayers what's needed is genuine fighters against evil.

[@GoldenVideos073]

P. S. Let's look at an example of a country where socialism was most successful, namely Yugoslavia (we all know how Yugoslavia was destroyed): -Workers owned the factories and controlled the money flows. -Since the workers controlled the money flow in the factory, they also controlled the surplus money, which was invested in summer and winter resorts, where their workers and their families went on FREE summer and winter vacations. - Since the workers controlled the excess money, buildings were built with that money, whose apartments were ALLOCATED FREE OF CHARGE to the workers of that company...

[@esetigere]

Please link these reports in the description, it would be good for those of us in policy spaces to help advance our ideas. Thank you great video

[@stevemora7845]

Yellow vest movement is needed in the US before we are all homeless!

[@kevintewey1157]

Here's a study that's never been done the people on Social Security which are homeless

[@oumsu1162]

Thank you.

[@krone5]

great chat about housing supply not being adequate. NY needs to build more housing on the public sector front across the state.

[@amandaelizabeth7943]

Together we stand! Top notch reporting!

[@blrrich1051]

excellent video

[@DrDonnyTheBookofYou]

Talk more about the racism part of homelessness. Black people didn't have a chance to get into the housing market, and we got screwed in the 2008 fraud. I feel like the homelessness issues is a black lives issue

[@TheZombieButler]

Thank you very informative. Just a thought, in America (can't speak to other places) after the 2008 crash housing starts crashed and really didn't pick up again until 2010.Also the housing stock that was seized due to the bad(predatory) loans was given to black rock who continues to buy additional homes. I agree we need a change.

[@lynner1770]

I saw the short, here for the long

[@gladysodiawa9307]

Who is listening to you brother. How do we start this revolution

[@4.I.S]

back to back episodes where you knock it out of the park Miguel. Would love for you to bring Leilani Farha on the podcast to talk about addressing the homelessness problem moving forward

[@democracyatwrk]

We've had her as a guest on both Cities After and Economic Update! Here are the episodes: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpC5o4WbbdFnqLs; kzbin.info/www/bejne/eISWpaKGZ7CthK8

[@walentystankiewicz8486]

The highest ownership of houses in the world is in Romania, not a rich country 93% population owns a home or apartment. Next would be Singapore Poland most of the EasEuropean countries Russia and China. Working hard and having nothing is deplorable.

[@SofaKingShit]

If someone doesn't own land they essentially own nothing. I will never own any.

[@zwimipo1828]

You dont own land or real estate if you have to pay taxes on it every year, you rent it from the government essentially

[@terysantos2810]

What about the NIMBY?

[@phyllisjackson4322]

Has neocapitalism gone beyond ", fixing" or must we prepare for revolution?

[@bobcornwell403]

"Neo-liberal" capitalism is decadent, predatory capitalism. But the problem is not capitalism. The problem is with democracy, or what passes as such today. Here, in the US atleast, both political parties are owned by the wealthy. Right now, when we vote, we get to choose between an outright Fascist Party and a totally bought one. The crises of our time (atleast here in the US) is that the emptiness of this choice is becoming obvious to more and more people. Some of whom believe that Fascism will cut them a better deal. The non-Fascist party is counting on the majority to support them no matter what, in fear of Fascism.

[@helpanimals-]

capitalism has always been and will the THE problem unless we, the regs, do something like protests

[@terriej123]

Why hasn’t the NYC study/report been widely published? I suspect that people would be rightly outraged.

[@gusmotorsports]

Capitalism on steroids is to blame.

[@bobjary9382]

Housing first gets half done and then accused of being a solution only for the few. If there is no housing only piecemeal provision there can be no housing firat

[@drealexatos3459]

When I was homeless no one asked. No one counted; no one cared

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Sorry about that. It depends where you are. Not all areas have counters. Happy you were able to transition out of that situation. I've been homeless before too.

[@NaderNabilart]

I'm honestly confused. Why wouldn't the government finance housing the unhoused instead of paying a lot more (yearly) to homeless businesses and organizations? What's their logic/excuse/bullsh*t? Does this policy help repel the homeless and kick them outside the city? Does it subsidize a living wage for low-paying but essential jobs in the city? Are they afraid of a rush on the city by 'undesirables' claiming the new housing provided by the government? I can't understand.

[@jamesjerome6942]

It's the last point but...for anyone and everyone, not just (")un- or non- desirables("), at least, 18/21(/27)+ and maybe the second point...maybe. You'll get or have a rush on/in the city's jurisdiction, for the new (homing/)housing(, stationery) provided by the local(e) government/municipal public-sector or municipal public-sector/local(e) government...community authority. Could be seen and heard...thought and felt/viewed and valued, as an in-direct living wage, provided by another (public-sectors owned and organised, owned and invested/re-invested) welfare-based/-related agency(/department/ministry)...for anyone, everyone, but also for people...who are employed in the lowly-paid, but/yet essential city jurisdiction's city local(e) government/municipal public-sector or municipal public-sector/local(e) government, community authority jobs/careers/employments. Or the private-sector business-sector or private-sectors business-sectors jobs/careers/employments -based/-related and private-sector business-sector or private-sectors business-sectors overall institutions counterparts. Discourage/dissuade either of them from continuing onwards with it...depriving the city's jurisdiction city local(e) government/municipal public-sector or municipal public-sector/local(e) government, community authority of the jobs/careers, but also the taxes and local(e) government/municipal public-sector or municipal public-sector/local(e) government...community authority land(s)-related/-based taxes the local(e) government/municipal public-sector or municipal public-sector/local(e) government...community authority demands/requires/collects. Or just discourage, dissuade people from (studying/)working(/laboring), broadly, overall and intra-local(e)/municipal or municipal/local(e)...community jurisdictions.

[@marianhunt8899]

They make profit from it! It's how you create 'markets' in our neoliberal (unrestrained free market) economic model. Our industry and factories went to China so they created different markets to extract profit from. Some markets profit from human misery, real (expensive housing rents) or imagined (plastic surgery).

[@Jon_East]

And as with so many aspects of the capitalist system... The cruelty is the point.

[@Bewefau]

I think it would work if you take the money making part out of it. Or force them to count every fucking penny. And if one is short they pay out of pocket. None of them get paid for that work. Period.

[@user-wp8yx]

Good presentation, if anyone is interested in Solutions, I'm available for consultation.

[@imaniwillis18]

It's kinda weird that the people who actually build all the housing, do the carpentry and build furniture, cabinetry and what not are without decent housing. Meanwhile people who can't build themselves enjoy the finest construction and carpentry. Why, with all the know how, can't we have a nice home?

[@GoldenVideos073]

Social justice: Socialists argue that socialism promotes greater social justice and equality in the distribution of resources, while capitalism often leads to great economic inequality. Provision of basic needs: Socialism is based on the provision of basic needs for all citizens, including health, education and housing, while capitalism can lead to difficulties in accessing these basic services. Fewer economic crises: Socialists argue that socialism can reduce the frequency and severity of economic crises that arise from the capitalist system. Price Control: Socialism can allow the government to have greater control over the prices of basic necessities, which can help fight inflation and protect consumers. Workers' rights: A socialist system usually protects the rights of workers and unions more strongly, providing them with better working conditions and greater bargaining power. Social stability: Socialists argue that socialism can contribute to greater social stability because it reduces economic tensions and inequalities. Environmental sustainability: A socialist system can better regulate and control the exploitation of resources and protect the environment, because it relies less on unlimited growth and profits. Free Education and Health: Socialism often offers free education and health for all citizens, which can improve access to these essential services. Less economic inequality: Socialism tends to reduce differences in wealth and income between individuals, which can contribute to a more stable society. Social security: Socialism can ensure greater social security for citizens through social assistance programs and pension systems

[@Robert_McGarry_Poems]

Title: Salem launches ‘low barrier’ navigation center, supportive housing units to combat homelessness OPB: Oregon Public Broadcasting.

[@Robert_McGarry_Poems]

Is this what you are talking about, or a step in the right direction? Because as I understand where the money came from, it came from education taxes, as opposed to money for road infrastructure. I mean, Portland and some of the larger cities like Eugene have great infrastructure. But that education money could have been better spent on educating rural Oregon. It seems progressive until you actually look at the whole picture. I mean, not funding education for the sake of managing homelessness probably creates a revolving door. We give some of it to drug addicts too, instead of those who don't do drugs. What a place. And the Oregon health plan is similarly a huge joke. Don't have a computer, access to one, or an address... Good luck! Heck, even if you do, good luck.

[@aking9624]

Civilization eh?

[@pavelvodnar3206]

what is wrong on inequality?

[@pfanico]

To put it simple. If an Einstein borns in a slum the probability to him to have his opportunity is going to be lower than an idiot born from a rich family. This means you are not evolving the humanity but regressing.

[@michael511128]

This channel is about socialism, right? In China there are hardly any homeless people, almost nonexistent. Many contributing factors but low rent is a significant one. Home prices in Beijing and Shanghai are the highest. A new 1500 sq ft 3 bedroom apartment costs 2 million dollars to buy and 3000 to rent. These are cities with 25 million population. Millions of low income earners like couriers and waitresses make about 1000 dollars a month. They live in older apartments and share units. Most college fresh grads share apartments too. However rent drop significantly from 1st tier cities to 5th tier cities. Same new apartment in 5th tier cities costs 150,000 dollars and 200 to rent, also comes with 5G and EV charging. One needs some imagination to fathom these prices had been increasing along the economy for 20 years. Before that the housings, infrastructure, and the local economy didn’t exist. There are other factors like economic growth, job availability, education, infrastructure efficiency, planned development, family attachment, social security, health care, social workers, and food availability, food prices are low compared to the West. A KZbin video titled Searching for Homeless People in China by Living in China provides a glimpse of a 5th tier city.

[@MichelleHell]

China's economy resembles FDRs US economy, which was created by socialist parties. China will subsidize socialist constitutions. Before long north Koreans will be traveling the world and laughing at Americans.

[@LongDefiant]

Screaming into the void. I do it a lot, too.

[@eddiekulp1241]

Homeless problem can't be solved because they can never make enough income to afford a home or apt. If provided free housing will trash them out and abandon them in a few years

[@Robert_McGarry_Poems]

Wow! Some great moderation you have there... What a joke.

[@clarestucki5151]

To declare something that you cannot provide yourself to be a "human right" is to simultaneously declare that you have the right to consume the fruits of another person's labor. That is basically reintroducing slavery into society. And the finger wagger fails to mention that there have been many experiments over time where housing has been created for those unable to provide their own, and they have been seriously ineffective, even to the point of disasterous. Americans living in public housing tend to destroy it.

[@keycuz]

I am Spartacus.

[@thepoifessor]

Many people could provide themselves with homes, food, and healthcare from the fruits of their own labor of they weren't being made wage slaves by the rich. The poor don't need the rich to rescue them, they need the rich to stop hurting them.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Yep all human beings have some right to some fruits of another under certain circumstances. it's as if we live in a society NOW CONTINUE FARKING OFF LOLBERTARIAN BETCH THANKS

[@juliahenriques210]

Not consuming the fruits of another person's labour is impossible in societal life. If something is yours by right, it's also by definition something other people are required to give or required not to take from you. The imbalance comes when you control the outcomes and benefits of labour, and thus keep for yourself more than your share of direct contribution to production. That's why salary-work under capitalism has been called waged slavery. Also, affordable housing doesn't work without full employment policies and market controls. Full employment policies ensure most people will have the means to pay for maintenance and repairs, preventing the mentioned "destruction", which is actually just infrastructure decay. And market control prevents gentrification and means people won't just sell their once affordable home whenever housing speculation comes.

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

Ok ok wow that was just so unfriendly of me. Let's try again You're kind of lolbertarianism isn't needed here Yeah it's a right. In a humane society, certain things are protected. I would think a right to survive and a right to proper shelter should be top of that list and there are various good ways to provide this Ok bye