Cities: Skylines | Franklin, Episode 8: TRAINS!

[@xalrath]

this video being slotted into KZbin 4 Kidz by the algorithm is absolutely fantastic, and i have no idea why when does spider man marry and kill elsa

[@donoteat01]

did it really that's fucking hilarious

[@donoteat01]

"hey kids, today we're gonna learn about the new york connecting railroad and the hudson tubes"

[@ibbles7766]

It's educational!

[@donoteat01]

i would like to point out that he is a tank engine, not a "train engine"

[@Tishlin12345]

Comrade Thomas is a proletarian, actually

[@FloridatedH2O]

No Gods! No Kings! ONLY TRAINS!!

[@joriandrake]

Every man a king, every man a train

[@vandelayofficial492]

You can't stop him, he's the Conductor!

[@georgespellvin6859]

I wonder if Justin gets the IG/Funhaus reference.

[@kealiiballao]

This is the kind of urban design that I like... evolution over time. From sitting in poop to pumping it to your neighbors.

[@postoctobrist]

I'd totally buy a RENT CONTROL shirt.

[@postoctobrist]

Then again I'm also the kind of nerd who would buy like a Franklin [insert municipal department] shirt too.

[@warmachine5835]

Hey yeah, just gonna sneak right past ya and signal boost this.

[@omnabrain2668]

I would prefer an ABOLISH RENT shirt personally.

[@warmachine5835]

Omna Brain I mean, I'd also buy "DECOMMODIFY HOUSING"

[@TheSeptet]

Holy shit, it's Alice!

[@safe-keeper1042]

10:24 "Passengers go in passenger cars" sometimes throughout history they too go in box cars, unfortunately.

[@QemeH]

Well, that really depends on your definition of "passenger"...

[@brodywilson7892]

Too soon

[@SpoopySquid]

Oof

[@Stroporez]

The soldier who captured Berlin rode in box cars.

[@Lenovo15477]

early passenger cars were just open hoppers with seats added in

[@bsquiklehausen]

This is the content I crave.

[@Jessie-vm6kq]

Same here, same here

[@Gunbladefire]

But are not allowed to eat. ;-;

[@aarav3890]

"This video is going to be light on leftist poltics, but heavy on trains" me: okay no biggie. "The next video is going to be about organized labor tho" me: *creams instantly*

[@QemeH]

My reaction to the first sentence was more like "There were leftist politics before?" :D It's really funny to hear US americans self-classify in political terms, because what the states call "far left" is just considered the sensible choice in many european countries. Especially when it comes to things that are "just straight up communism" for the more right-winged american, like... say... an affordable and mandatory healthcare system :D

[@parkerc9816]

@@QemeH I know and it's horrible. Please just invade us and manually install those policies already.

[@QemeH]

I can't tell if you're joking. Irony doesn't translate well in written media...

[@parkerc9816]

Sry it's a joke but I do fully support a lot of European social policies.

[@wolfgang7850]

@@parkerc9816 late as hell, but fuck it. As someone who's family hails from a former colony (the African kind, not the Australia/Canada variety). Trust me, you don't want it. They'll just suck up your resources so THEY can have the good shit. You're just harvesting rubber.

[@baronjutter]

"Light on leftist politics but heavy on trains" this is the worst faustian bargain I've ever experienced in my life. I need both, to the max. CO- -AL

[@donoteat01]

wait until the PP&P episode on amtrak

[@NeighborSenpai]

donoteat01 oh wow Amtrak is soo messed up.......can't wait for you to make an episode about that

[@charonsferryold]

@@donoteat01 Hey what are your thoughts on Conrail?

[@donoteat01]

Autistic Foamer may do a combined episode on penn central and conrail at some point, will be a few months off at least though

[@charonsferryold]

@@donoteat01 So basically, you're deleting the trains

[@Firefox_42]

ＲＥＮＴ ＣＯＮＴＲＯＬ

[@wildfox184]

I have one small request. Make the entire series just trains. All of it. Only trains.

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

Why do we have othet stuff than trains? We should just live in them and all. No need for anything else

[@donoteat01]

this guy gets it

[@Matty2Tone]

I'm all in for this guy's train-topia.

[@1234q-q8x]

@@Matty2Tone yes, amazing pun.

[@TheSeptet]

Then we'd just end up living in that shitty Snowpiercer movie, and who wants that?

[@Bustermachine]

@@TheSeptet Worse. We'd be living in . . . ATLAS SHRUGGED.

[@charonsferryold]

12:59 Is this one of those freak accidents of the early days? EDIT: A great place to see how ridiculous early railroad construction was is Point of Rocks. A massive cut (and later a tunnel) into the side of the mountain was made for the railway using packages of gunpowder with spikes so they could drive into the rocks. Some unexploded bombs are still wedged in the rocks!

[@Ida6Leter]

In my city, a few decades ago, they demolished a railway and turned it into a trail. You can walk for miles, through pretty much half the city, with crossing only a handful of roads. Pretty neat, though, an old inaccessible bridge over a river is the only thing that remains of it, other than that they used the old wooden planks to make steps over the steep hills.

[@concrete_dog]

I remember when the ending cinematics were just calm sequences depicting a bunch of trees with a couple wooden shelters and boats at the shoreline, and now they've devolved into these terrifying machinations of trains barreling down narrow streets, narrowly avoiding horses and people, built upon the backs and literal corpses of hundreds of thousands of labourers.

[@interstellarbruce6429]

Even though this video didn't appear to be going for a thorough overview of american railroad history. i was just a little bit disappointed to not see the mention of African american labor presence in the industry. but this was however caused by you not mentioning the Early southern railroads overall, and how many southern railroads would use slave, freed, or even later on goverment imprisoned chain gang labor. working as section hands /gandy dancers (Which is a lesser more colloquial term for Navvy) , and also serving as break men, porters, and firemen. however since you where just going for an extremely general overview of the labor at the very end. I'm not here to fault you for anything. as this history is quite forgotten. However another forgotten history i think you should go into if you start to make a turn of the century city would be the destruction of american mass transit. aka The death of the Electric Streetcar, and their bigger brothers the interurban commuters trains. just another casualty of the paradigm shift that lead to the birth of the Interstate highways, suburbia, consumeristic car culture, and the sprawl that our society suffers from today, and the almost ironic emerging return of the streetcars, and interurban's now named light rail.

[@donoteat01]

oof, y'all have a point there. i haven't really talked about race much at all at this point -- i was saving a bunch for the organized labor episode but maybe i should have addressed it earlier....

[@MattBaran]

(it's trains)

[@BlargMuffins]

You missed a huge opportunity to rail on about the evils of capitalism that let Henry get shut up in a tunnel for not being useful to the capitalist.

[@LordMangudai]

"rail on"

[@OmegaEnvych]

"Oh-oh - Here comes that Trainsexual guy!" "I like trains" *Sounds of train running nearby*

[@rafagd]

"A nice even 4ft 8½inches."

[@zanni8883]

i adore the lil floating train at 13:00 with all my heart

[@humanbeing7504]

I came to watch cities skylines. I am now a communist. oops

[@FreakAboutSims3]

These videos don't even encourage communism so how did that happen?

[@JustinArriaga]

@@FreakAboutSims3 It is the only logical end

[@FreakAboutSims3]

Denny For a post-scarcity society.

[@Calpsotoma]

Turtles need communism too.

[@LexieAssassin]

The only question that remains is, what kind of communist did you become? *stares intensely in AnComm*

[@Blakbox92]

I find this series fascinating not just because of the political views or the use of a game I enjoy to teach, but it's really giving me an idea of how different everyday things worked in the 18th and 19th centuries - I never thought about how water was supplied before indoor plumbing was common place, that gardens were made to "help" the mentally ill, or that factories would be built along railway lines.

[@SolarMechanic]

You didn't cover trains made entirely of wood which are connected to their carts by massive magnets. The ones they based the toys on.

[@Triphos]

I, uh, I might buy a RENT CONTROL shirt

[@benfoster1018]

Hell. I'd buy two

[@Hail_The_Fish]

I like trains

[@xalrath]

strongly agree

[@donoteat01]

ditto

[@SpoopySquid]

Wait, no don't - *gets run over by train*

[@c.finley9660]

Actually, private rail vehicles exist on a few German islands and formerly in Alaska, where a railway that was disused was allowed public use; the Chitina-McCarthy Tramroad. Probably wasn't in charters tho.

[@donoteat01]

i've seen that german one and it's cool as hell

[@GrijzePilion]

Can someone shoot me a link?

[@sertaki]

German here - we have a growing number of private companies renting the rights from the German federal rail company to let their own trains run on the tracks. Not sure if this fall sunder the "private rail vehicles" umbrella.

[@simondoes]

"private" in this instance is not referring to non-state-owned companies, but actually privately owned rail-cars like... uh... well, like a car in your driveway that you may take anytime you want, anywhere you want.

[@RB-nt6zx]

@@@GrijzePilion: I'm a bit late, but I guess it's this here: www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-lorenbahn-nordstrand-germany a video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/emHdqXuhh75kmrs or search for "Lorenbahn".

[@driverx241]

12:57 you weren’t kidding about these trains being dangerous

[@robk7266]

"Passengers go in the passenger car. That's easy." Hobos: "I'm about to end this man's whole career."

[@jadebullet3884]

My favorite bit of railroad history is the PRR Schuylkill Branch, or the Spite Line as I call it. The PRR was upset that the Philadelphia and Reading was working with the New York Central so they tried to put it out of business by making a railroad parallel to the Reading's mainline. It failed utterly, and all of the legal battles during construction were quite costly. (The Reading would do things like construct sidings in narrow cuts like in Conshohocken that would block the PRR, forcing them to go to court to get it removed)

[@bsawicki99]

I don't care if you put one episode a month this is great content and I cherish each episode!! Thank you!

[@ashleyfurrow4414]

One episode a decade; I still love it.

[@mikuhatsunegoshujin]

17:02 It's kind of unsettling how close that hit home for me. I cross that bridge and see that power plant that powers my house all the time.

[@evilspoons]

I love how Cities: Skylines, out of the box, is basically a really complicated train set that yells at you if you don't set it up correctly. (It's a complicated relationship.)

[@EvelynnEleonore]

NUMTOT CONFIRMED (the german offshoot for numtots is what lead me to your wonderful channel. This is rapidly becoming one of my all-time favourites.

[@johnreed4970]

Permeant fan of DNE and the little engine that could.

[@dbzfanexwarbrady]

a fear of 20 mph , omg, they would have a heart attack on Concorde

[@dbzfanexwarbrady]

also for people curious about how bad having different gauges is look up how Astro-Hungary performed in WW1

[@KoRMaK1]

Hardest i laughed all day was at the "sound familiiaaaar?" pitch shift and imagery

[@jonahhillman6491]

Can you zoom out and show the whole map?

[@Asurnasurpal]

Good lord I fukkin wish I werent dirt broke. Your stuff is honestly legit some of the best content on youtube imho and I wish I had somethin to toss ya. Also I wanna toss this out there: Would you ever consider doing a video on what you would personally do if you were in a position to plan a city? Just like... full ham fantasy realm do whatever you want. I'd love to see what you'd position as something approaching an ideal situation.

[@Asurnasurpal]

Also that opening is legit the best thing Ive ever fucking heard in my entire life and is a fucking mood for this commie bitch

[@donoteat01]

oof, i mean the thing is there are about 400 other cities:skylines series which already do full-on fantasy ideal construction -- in short i think planning an ideal city from scratch is pointless, and greenfield development is completely contemptible like if i were planning a city from scratch i'd do what i'm already doing, lol

[@blujitsu2180]

These videos are always amazing, and they offer some good insight into Philly history too. Keep up the great work (at whatever pace is best).

[@stun3282]

Oh my god I never realized how dangerous the railroads were

[@JMMCCCP]

This opening monologue is absolute GOLD.

[@WR3ND]

Seeing this on your playlist and didn't read the title ahead of time. Trains! Yes, I was pleasantly surprised indeed.

[@Minipipy]

Was introduced to your channel from bsquiklehausen's recent video today, just binged this series. I've been waiting so long for someone to make a series about a city which starts off from it's roots and grows over time, and I finally found it! Thanks for making these.

[@AnzeigenameHere]

That intro made my roommate concerned for my mental health .

[@flameoguy]

this is one of those trainposts that trumps all others

[@fckuyo3918]

One trainpost to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them...

[@biturboism]

I shed a tear at the minecraft music. Overwhelmed by comforting memories.

[@rbfishcs123]

I know im late to the party on this one but, I used to work on the railroad and some of the guys i worked with hired out as breakmen from the 60s and 70s. A few of them were missing fingers or parts of their fingers, this was supposedly one way people would know how long a breakman had been around for. Based on the number of fingers he was missing.

[@jamma246]

4:36 _"A series of tubes"_ It is not a big truck [it's a steam engine].

[@TalenGryphon]

Speaking as a "reformed" model railroader, this intro is accurate 14:29 An interesting side effect of said land grants was Yellowstone National Park, initially created in 1872 as a way for The Great Northern line to drum up revenue by showing people nature's steam engines. This ultimately lead to the national park service in 1916. So, it's not all bad news. Trevithick's earlier experiments involved traction engines which were banned from roads in part because his 'Puffing Devil' violently detonated when the crew (In very British fashion) left it unattended to go to the pub. Following the ban from normal roads Trevitick decided to make his own, and discovered he could dispense with steering by using iron rails. Australia had a major railroad gauge problem as well. But they didn't decide to solve it until the 1970's :-/. Lastly, watertube boilers did see greater market penetration on steamships. The chief advantage of them is that if that if a water tube fails, you just have an unhappy boiler. It doesn't instantly turn into a giant steam-powered frag grenade

[@chrismiller691]

a fantastic series with fantastic commentary. I am suffering through the mouth noises with hopes they eventually go away.

[@spconway11]

This is smut

[@TheAgamidaex]

I only noticed the flying train at 13:00 after reading the comments :D Mesmerizing episode

[@kommo1]

Just the "unclassifiable bullshit" part is already enough to make me watch this episode over and over again.

[@ibbles7766]

Trains are a hell of a drug.

[@fckuyo3918]

Drugs are for people who can't handle their trains.

[@1234q-q8x]

"And it's unclassifiable b*****" oh God I love that part, but what is the name of that train?

[@donoteat01]

type 3 of the belgian railways www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/belgian/smashsys.htm

[@mrpieceofwork]

I want to thank you for starting the locomotive identification lesson with Thomas... it made my day.

[@knockshinnoch1950]

Another absorbing episode. It would appear that the rapid railway expansion in the UK was more controlled and less of a chaotic free for all than in the US. They coming of the railways certainly transformed society in so many ways- like an early internet- standardization of time, speedier connections and not without massive social problems- increased risk, danger to life and of course massive contribution to pollution. Great to see your subs rising!

[@AsalhaPuja]

After all these episodes I'm still not sure if this is a cities skylines play trough with added history lessons or history lessons with some added cities skylines gameplay.. Either way it's awesome man, keep it up! (y)

[@kireclebnul]

more trains

[@LordMangudai]

6:35 "although he's stuck in a tunnel so it doesn't matter" *I can't stop laughing* Serious Plinkett vibes on the delivery of that line btw

[@arigadatred5395]

"The metallic fingers of the railroads intimately touched countless phases of American life." - actual passage from my AP US history textbook, thanks for reminding me of that you monster

[@ExGavalonnj]

I wish I found this series sooner

[@jbran7817]

I come back to this just for how incredible the intro is

[@gameworkerty]

y'know I never really thought about how cow catchers obviously kill the cows and the 5 year old inside of me is upset

[@Biverix]

I like this but I also need both more marxism and more trains please.

[@ZanraiKid]

Ah, yes, all of your favorite Thomas the Tank Engine characters: Thomas Henry Gordon Norfolk and Western A-Class East African Railways Class 59 Unclassifiable Bullshit

[@jordancanning3502]

This series is so brilliant and I'm really glad it's getting views. Donoteat I don't know who you are, but damn these are good.

[@tyblazitar]

you getting angry about locomotive taxonomy inconsistencies is exactly my shit

[@crystallastname9675]

Yknow dude (are you a dude?) I'm really enjoying your videos. I marathoned both your series all the way through the other day and it was a blast. I'm already an anarchist myself but you've somehow managed to push me a bit further left. If I had a dollar I'd throw it your way. Maybe soon. Hope to see much more in the future! Thanks neighbor. :)

[@umangmalik]

Loving the Minecraft soundtrack in the background!

[@secularist1]

This episode is off the rails.

[@TheDutchMitchell]

I love the occasional horse and carriage going through the streets

[@KhasAdun1990]

When you had that first person shot of the train going through the city, I was hoping we'd hit a cow.

[@joachimmacdonald2702]

thank you for validating my childhood

[@eric5012]

Me: "haha what a funny intro. He's ironically suggesting trains are addictive since they're really just boring and old" *sees East African Railways Class 59* "oh no I want to fuck this train"

[@joachimmacdonald2702]

loud, uncomfortable and no ventilation - welcome to the central line!

[@juanjuri6127]

i wish Leftist Internet wasn't a bubble where creatives deliver amazing content based on the pledge of their audience to financially support them, right up until the point where we all realize none of us has any fucking money because we're all caught in the transitional period from Late Capitalism™ to Nature Slowly Reclaiming A Hollowed Depopulated Husk Of a Barren Planet™ by that i mean i think i can buy you a beer this month, keep up the good work

[@Angel-yo8pg]

Great episode As usual

[@estanbeedell6741]

Have you read "Nature's Metropolis"? Great book on the growth of Chicago, especially relating to the expansion of rail to the midwest.

[@BattleshipOrion]

I need to write that opening down give me one hour.

[@StormCrownSr]

I love this series.

[@joachimmacdonald2702]

what you want for single-drive locos is a proper British 8-footer, which has its two 8-foot drive wheels in the correct place - in the middle. it was pretty successful for the time.

[@uusername7454]

Your vids always make me chuckle

[@heartbreaktimemachine]

This series is amazing.

[@bcase5328]

One detail about the railroads that you didn't state, the lack of standardized time keeping. We got nationalized standard time because of the affect of railroads and their need for one clock's time.

[@LexieAssassin]

You never mentioned how early air brakes used air to apply the brakes, meaning if there was a loss of air pressure, there was no longer any brakes. This eventually changed to using air pressure to hold the brakes off, and thus if there was a loss of air pressure, the brakes would automatically go into emergency.

[@manictiger]

Video: Do you know that of which I speak? Me: Sex? Video: IT'S TRAINS! Me: So, sex. Squeeze the steamy phallic object into the tunnel with vigor.

[@TheSchmuck2]

Binging this series as I am watching it for the first time! Did I miss what happened to the indigenous tribes? I hope we hear more about them. No spoilers please.

[@Khemri7]

Ah yes, my autistic desire for trains and my love of leftist politics can finally be brought together at last!!!!

[@NavidIsANoob]

Never has a comment connected with me so much.

[@gusmartin1246]

A match made in heaven. Or on rails.

[@cznzmusic]

literally me

[@obliviousotterI]

Hello buddies

[@gfv74]

Best intro ever. 👏🏻

[@herkles1]

yay Trains. I hope this isn't the last we see of trains in the series :)

[@JohnMiller-mmuldoor]

Can you do a separate series on “Hamden” it would be a great way to explore like build up of small satellite cities like Camden (East St.Louis, North New Jersey suburbs of New York, others?) and their later urban decay

[@lvmpenprxle7135]

i love you, Maoist Joe Pera.

[@LarsBlitzer]

One side effect of using immigrant labour were the settling along the route of the railway. It's one of the reasons that even little podunk towns in the middle of nowhere has a better then even chance of having a Chinese restaurant. Restaurants being one of the few businesses Asians were allowed to own and run.

[@jaytownhd3534]

Good video! Keep up the good work👍

[@dankoscianski7765]

Bowie, MD is pronounced boo-eee, like the knife!

[@h3lblad3]

What the hell is a booee knife? The only thing I know of is the (David) Bowie knife.

[@zacharyl1905]

Someone beat me to it!

[@concrete_dog]

What a wild world it must've been when they opted to invent a Cow Catcher instead of just building railroads a couple hundred meters more to the east where they would be outside of city borders...

[@Jessie-vm6kq]

I have been waiting for this episode, should have done the PRR GG1 as one the white system examples

[@donoteat01]

the GG1 isn't a steam locomotive

[@Jessie-vm6kq]

Ohh, the white system is only applied to steam locomotives?

[@donoteat01]

yes the GG1 would use AAR and be a 2-C+C-2

[@c.finley9660]

isn't whyte also for siderod diesels and electrics?

[@donoteat01]

i guess you could use it for that, but AAR is the standard AFAIK

[@zuthalsoraniz6764]

Donoteat says trains rights

[@mikemcateer3531]

My dad loves trains, he's fairly conservative but I feel like he'd still like this video