CItizenCon Teased Ships Explained

[@SubliminaLstv]

For everyone who is in disagreement with me on the Starlancer. FIrst I'm not saying it CAN'T be the BLD. My official take is that we are getting more than just the MAX. My opinion for why none of us can be 100% sure on this being the BLD is based on two objective facts. TMK, the light bar is shown on every image and video clip we have on the MAX, and is NEVER shown on the TAC or BLD. There is nothing shown in the teaser that suggests its the BLD or the TAC. We only know for sure that it is a Starlancer. At the end of the day it would be illogical for them to hold off on the TAC because making a combat variant at the same time or just after the MAX would save development time & cost. Holding off on the BLD due to base building being 12-18mo away seems logical. The max releasing during IAE is irrelevant. The Anvil Terrapin Med-Evac was clearly shown on the showroom floor of IAE and it is teased. The date has been officially set for MAX, the year is officially set for TAC, and the BLD is TBD. LLAP!

[@soeveth]

I think everyone is wrong. When they introduced the Starlancer they said they are going to introduce the first 3 of the family(max,Tac and Build). I believe this one to be a fourth they havnt talked about.

[@CyberneticArgumentCreator]

I see an indentation where the lights are on the TAC in the picture you showed from the site. It's the same color paint as the rest of the nose, but has an outline. To me, it could be any of them.

[@jesseschworm8153]

Thought the MAX was coming out during IAE so it's got to be Either the TAC or the BLD. They technically already showed off the TAC and are selling it. so not sure why they would include it in this sort of sneek view. I kinda think that only leaves the BLD. (Unless it is another variant) You dismissed the BLD mentioning that base building ships would be to early but it's clear the Pioneer is also one these sneek peek ships.

[@yikes3049]

I think its both variants, just like how they only showed the Ironclad but will almost certainly release the Ironclad Assault alongside it. These variants are very easy for them to produce so the only time they wont make one is if the tech for it isn't already in like with the Spirit E1 for instance.

[@SubliminaLstv]

@@CyberneticArgumentCreator This is classic automobile design, save manufacturing cost by having the front bumper be identical on all models but some get the indentation filled in with a feature. Parking sensor, fog lights, paint, etc.. It is 100% plausible that they didn't add the led lights to the BLD or TAC yet. But since that light is on nothing but the max, the teased ship is either the MAX or we don't know. You cannot say with certainty its the BLD or TAC because there is no proof of that. Evidence points to MAX, but its plausible they will add the lightbar to the rest later.

[@QuarthDoesThings]

"Terrapin torture chair" is something I've never heard but is painfully accurate

[@The_Fallen_1]

I think the reason they have SCU boxes next to basically every ship is so we have an accurate sense of scale. Last year we just had a person that was an ok but imperfect measuring tool. EDIT: for the suspected Guardian, it's very likely the variant that was datamined rather then the base version we know about.

[@the5starx]

*Cries in Galaxy*. They said last year it would be before the Perseus.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Remember these are only SOME of what they are working on.

[@arenomusic]

Legionnaire :(

[@Tangled_Web_We_Weave]

I was gonna melt my Galaxy but then I thought that perhaps the total silence was because they might release it at IAE. The hopium is strong with this one though. Lol😂

[@Cplblue]

​@@Tangled_Web_We_Weave my guy, the Polaris has been teased since Invictus and is slated for an IAE release. There's no way in hell the Galaxy is a surprise release at IAE. That's not even copium.

[@TheEddieguy82]

@@Cplblue one can dream tho

[@CheckSix]

Does anyone else feel disappointed but also not at all disappointed by Citcon, it was so confusing. CR and the team answered so many questions. The answers weren't necessarily what some people wanted to hear but everyone seemed happy to just have answers.

[@HereticusS42]

@@CheckSix No. It just you.

[@fishfighter2]

Yes

[@lekochi]

I was disappointed, I left the con early.

[@koolerpure]

im always disappointed, we forget that marketing controls everything CIG does. i mean hell we just got the hauling update and half the ships we own cannot even function as a cargo ship as its suppose to, why cant we lower the carrack pods in the cargo update? citcon just showed us stuff we could have but we probably wont

[@stormfire962imastarcitizen5]

Disappointment? Absolutely not and I found the entire event very informative as well as excited for what is about to come to SC. If anything I believe you are the one who doesn't understand and you need to stop looking at the game through a two dimensional viewpoint and open your mind up to the three dimensions and the capability with this game will and is becoming.

[@drakedge2000]

4:53 I think that the fuel vehicle makes a lot of sense for refueling the power plants.

[@M0T4]

PowerPlant need to refuel? It makes more sense to supply hydrogen to the ships.

[@drakedge2000]

Yeah in base building there’s power plants that require fuel

[@rooster1012]

@@M0T4 Yes power plants need fuel as shown in base building demo and I am sure it could supply ships and vehicles to.

[@coolgyownsyou]

So instead of just building a fuel tank, we're gonna park a vehicle there instead

[@mhmm4840]

​@coolgyownsyou both ships and vehicles use fuel. And if you are producing it it makes sense if you only need to move it a little bit, to haul it with a truck. Plus the power plant has a fuel tank you can probably fill it with a ship too i don't see why you wouldn't be able to

[@o0neill]

thats the over analyzation i was locking for 🙂

[@fmartingorb]

The drake is like the Corsair and the Cutter had a child lol. The Starlancer is the BLD. The lower gun in the Perseus retracts in landed position :)

[@ValosarX]

It is way larger than the Corsair. It is the size of a 600i or Carrack. My guess is a mobile miner that can land and harvest deposits straight from the ground.

[@fmartingorb]

@@ValosarX It is definitely going earn style points

[@angerskarin9222]

ohhh I always wondered where the lower gun went, i could swear I seen it with 2 of those big guns lol.

[@Kydelz]

12:37 Regarding your doubts that this ship is the Mirai Gurdian: it is important to note that the old teaser shows the Guardian hovering above the ground without its landing gear deployed. The ship in the new leak, however, has its gear down, which could possibly indicate that the differences in the shape of the "wings" towards the front of the ship are simply due to the fact they rotate/rearticulate when the gear is down to accommodate for landing similar to the wings of the Corsair/Scorpius. This would mean that the thinner cross section is visible from the side during flight, while the thicker side rotates down when the gear is deployed. Just a theory. Also, about the scale of the man next to the ship: it is probably just a discrepancy due to the perspective & angle of the camera shots.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Your thoughts on the perspective are 100% true. I myself noticed the different stance. But even if you take that into account it's still larger than this teaser. And I don't understand why they would add humans to give you the sense of scale and then adjust the camera to throw it off. If you are correct then the first teaser the human is farther away than the ship, and In the new teaser it is closer than the ship. Why add humans for perspective and not place them as close to the ship as you can? Furthermore they had just told us we are getting the Polaris, Intrepid, and Guardian this year. Why don't we have new teasers for the Polaris and intrepid?

[@ValosarX]

I agree with on this one. This silhouette has a certain biological element to it that the guardian we know about does not have like the wings can articulate like claws. I think this is either a smaller Guardian type ship or a Banu fighter ​@@SubliminaLstv

[@bigbuna]

it’s just a Gardian variant

[@MCC1776]

Great takes, glad you're a natural and respectful sceptic who uses logical reason to deduct conclusions. Really enjoyed the video, thanks for taking the time for quality and not just quantity content.

[@honeyspringshomestead1411]

All I can hope from CIG is they get a handle on things and progress quicker on things. It will help immensely if things are stable. Here is hoping they revisit old designs and update as needed like they did for the Polaris... looking at ships like Perseus etc etc.

[@Frank-costanza]

I honestly would love it if servers were just stable. I don't like playing if I'm going to lose everything to a weird server issue.

[@Mr-R.R.]

Ships revisiting is the LEAST important thing for CIG right now. How about them focus on actual gameplay instead

[@sarthakdixit4834]

Ship 10- 27:41 seems to be an alien ship (xian) its got that bulbous things as the cockpit like the one in the santokyia

[@IHiggs]

15:17 to further your argument that this ISNT the Mirai Guardian. During the CitizenCon presentation where they bring out the Ship Director/Ship Design Director--- They revealed in a previous slide before that the Polaris, Guardian, Intrepid were planned to be released before the end of 2024. Then they proceeded to show this part of the teased ships slated for 2025 of their silhouettes!

[@eziiii3536]

thats what i thought too but ppl in the Pipline discord were basically screaming at me saying i'm an idiot for saying that lol

[@Tenjac]

No, they said these are some of the ships they are releasing IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. That includes IAE this year. The intrepid is in here, as is the medical terrapin and those are releasing next month. "Before the end of the year" and "in the next 12 months" overlaps for more than 2 months.

[@protoni6996]

i think i see that shape in sq42 video what they show there and enemies has ship what has that shape. so i think it's gonna be alien ship.but who build it. i donno...

[@IHiggs]

@@eziiii3536 they do look strikingly similar on the other hand couldve just gotten beef'ed but due to initial design flaws like the MSR. Not sure they would do another quad-wing design right after the Guardian but who knows its all speculation rn anyways

[@PolBlanesCebrian]

@@IHiggs It looks beefed up but much smaller?

[@billhille6715]

really interesting point on the gaurdian look a like in the blue ship line up, can't wait to see what that is now. Great video!

[@Illfury]

That first hornet gives me bounty Hunter energy. That 2scu crate could be the cart to transport them.

[@SubliminaLstv]

OHHHHH 💦💦💦

[@MisterFoxton]

Poor, irrelevant Hawk.

[@Tenjac]

28:19 Absolutely correct. Apollo. Been shocked at how many didn't get this one.

[@SubliminaLstv]

100%

[@randomuserame]

As a former Apollo Waiter, I saw it immediately. Too bad medical never got fleshed out before I moved on from wanting to main as a medic. If they get those space-capable hover gurneys in (like the pictures), I might rethink it.

[@Winterx69]

Loving the fact that the Intrepid comes with its gun built into the wing - that's a first. Would have made a lot of sense in the case of the Reliant line-up. Well, one can dream.

[@SergeiMosin]

Armed, ground based fuel tanker is a sensible concept... Especially after they mentioned something about it not being always a good idea to take off with your ships. It would be a lot safer to fuel on the ground during those storms.

[@Hank_808]

OMG, Terrapin Medivac got me feelin feelings. Can't wait, I love my terrapin.

[@SharpEdgeSoda]

Hornet Ghost: The Stealth Device should be a specific item on the Power Bar menu that needs a lot of power and cooling. You'd have to turn off guns and maybe shields to use it, just like the Quantum Drive.

[@santobell]

The Anvil ground vehicle is a troop transport, it was mentioned years ago. Drake Tug, Can tow ships and or haul cargo boxes behind it like a space truck (best guess).

[@PCPAyLOAD]

I think you're misunderstanding the reason for cargo boxes and NPCs in those teaser pics. They are just putting them next to the ships to demonstrate scale.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Could be but why do we need scu and humans for scale? Why does every cargo ship have scu boxes? And not every other ship as well?

[@randomuserame]

Yes, but also no. The Medical Terrapin literally has a medical gurney sat right there. But for the most part, yes, I think the people and boxes are there to show scale, and I think the NPCs having weapons shows it's a ship geared for military/combat use

[@wun1gee]

That's definitely the MISC Fortune/Fortuna/salvage starter. The leaks talked about a "cargo elevator" and that definitely has one.

[@cyanetica4802]

I'm really happy about the Terrapin Medi-.. Gamera! But a rather small Crusader ship is also nice to have for sure.

[@LarsArt]

The "mirai guardian" is the butt of the constellation rework. Let me cope.

[@wun1gee]

A tracked rover/APC would be pretty freaking cool.

[@citizeninja]

Based on its landing gear and assuming it's a port-side rear quarter-view of the ship (45 degree angle between the side and back views), ship #9 is probably the Intrepid, imo. Also you can spot its 2 doors (cockpit and side door) by the door panels and floor hazard stripes in the IAE showroom preview. The Drake ship is maybe a garbage recycler, which is as close to crafting as you'd want a Drake ship to get.

[@51ghardy]

Always appreciate your videos. Highly accurate and informative. The Drake Command Pod - What if it is an Origin science or explorer? They do have a series with flippy wings.

[@tyranavalon]

I think #2 might be a construction vehicle based on the Ursa Rover frame. Similar to the Med-evac and the Lynx. Similarly, I think that #3 is also a construction vehicle built on the Atlas Platform. Many point out the turret on top, claiming that construction equipment doesn't need a turret, but I would remind them that the UEE still needs to build forward bases and that the easiest land to claim will undoubtedly be in lawless systems. Having a bit of anti-air or anti-personel defense will be useful. Don't know why, but #7 gives me crucible vibes. Maybe a small repair ship? I like the idea that #12 might be the Starlancer BLD. There is a lot of construction equipment making its way into the game over the next year. I hope that the Galaxy ends up being one of the surprise ships we get between now and then.

[@friendlyspacedragon7250]

For the mystery vehicle 9 I can think of two potential matches with some parts that don't fit. Primarily for their flat profile. Of course these could be completely wrong. -Liberator, the cylindrical engines in the back are missing. But it would be useful for Pyro if we need to haul ships and ground vehicles for the sandworm fight. -Arrasta, doesn't have the dual turret on the front side. But it does have the little fins in the back nacelle and otherwise might fit the silhouette from the perspective given.

[@ElijahNMitchell]

I could see the Ghost having shielded cargo for black ops missions

[@chrisandrews3979]

I think that small Drake looking ship is going to be that shuttle they talked about that takes you to your lost ship, and then returns.

[@christophermontoya5995]

was an interesting perspective. keep up the great content.

[@Heshinsi]

One thing I want to point out is that this year they never actually said these were ships they were hoping to release in the next 12 months like they said the year before. The words John Crewe used were, "let's have quick a look at some, emphasis on some, of the vehicles that we're working on in the next 12 months". So hopefully people aren't setting themselves up for disappoint and think they were promised something the team at CIG never made.

[@ShadzDash]

That stubby ship with the folded wings could be a mineral extraction ship. (the one you have listed as the Drake command module/shuttle)

[@Power5]

The teasers of next ships are ships that will be released in the next 12-18 months. Next month is within that 12-18 months. They could have included the ships that are going to be shown at IAE just so the people tracking the number of deliverables have a higher % completed at this time next year. Crew said no alien ships were being worked on, so I doubt the intrepid could be an alien ship.

[@Volf1916]

Spartan platform vehicle, possibly a larger base building drone carrier? As CIG likes having competition between manufacturers, such as the reclaimer and vulture for salvaging? For medical Terrapin, rescue, leatherback. As far as the "make sense" Max first over tac and same time, I refer you too CIG releasing the A1 spirit bomber before the C1 Spirit cargo. They were released separately as the A1 was the loaner for those like me who pledged the C1.

[@vikingserpent4991]

Excited for the intrepid! Hope it's a starter pack. Eyeballing the TAC, Mirai Guardian and med Terrapin, looks like this years ship releases wil be better than last year by a mile! They need to get the servers out of degraded and working (5 days now) by IAE if the goal is attracting new players and selling ships though.😮‍💨

[@cygnus6623]

I hope you are correct about the Appolo. Many have been waiting years for that one. I think the FL is a size 4 or 5 on the Crusader starter. I saw some screenshot of a medical Terrapin. That would be cool as well.

[@MottDaHoople]

I thought the MISC Starlancer shown was the Build... I was kinda hoping it was anyway... I'm glad you followed your Opinion with an explanation...

[@DarkFader2000]

For #10 it could be the shuttle that they referenced that you would use to fly to your ship rather than place an insurance claim.

[@Hogjet10]

The Architecture of the Vehicle #7 (The Mirai Guardian) Screams Gatac/Syulen to me. We know what the concept/architecture for the Railen looks like, and I think CIG had a lot of successful feedback on the unique design of the Syulen, both interior and exterior. I think this ship in question could be a new Gatac design??? I mean look at the landings legs of the Syulen, look at the concept of the Railens legs and then you look at the design of this things wing/legs and I think it's a plausible theory?!?

[@ChrisOakes83]

Is be inclined to agree with you if the Railen wasn't left out of the 1.0 presentation

[@metalrain300]

that isn't the Starlancer max, it's the Starlancer BLD. they made 3 but barely talked about the third. it's for fabrication.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Why would it just be the BLD? Base building is 12 - 18 MO away, they are saying these ships are going to arrive within 12. We know the Max is coming during IAE. So how could it not be the Max?

[@metalrain300]

@@SubliminaLstv same reason why they would show the csv-fm. Both fill the same roll. You did say it was the csv-fm and not the csv-sm. They have already shown us both the max and tac. So since they showed both of those it only makes sense the one shown as a silhouette would be the BLD. Just like they wouldn’t show the CSV-SM on there cuz they already showed it.

[@The_Fallen_1]

​@@SubliminaLstvThey showed 2 other base builders. Also, the projected date for base building changed a few times during the presentation, so we can't take any of them as accurate.

[@izraphailzero5610]

@@SubliminaLstv are you saerious? 1. There is a PIONEER! Why do they want to release it next year if building in. next 18 month? huh? Same for Argo car. 2. List is for the sips to release during NEXT year, not next month

[@PolBlanesCebrian]

It doesn't necessarily have to represent a single variant of the ship. The Zeus had just 1 picture and was both ES and CL variants. Why even argue about such a thing.

[@-JustHuman-]

Must say I agree with your guesses on the ships.

[@johnweems4586]

That Drake command shuttle thing might be a shuttle for boarding actions. The weird base would be for locking on to an airlock and then hacking/overriding it.

[@Kestrelkil]

Number 8 looks like a mining head attached, leaks talked about a medium misc ship with salvage, so possibly a mining salvage combo ship

[@flockofwildcactus]

A single S4 on the Intrepid would be pretty limiting, giving it about the same firepower as a Cutter (just a tad more). So I'm hoping it'll be a single S5 to set it apart from the other ships around it's class just below those that have a S4 + 2x S3 (Avengers, 325a) but above those with 3x S3 (300i,, Syulen) without the ability to mix loadout. Pros and cons, etc. The asymmetrical design calls to the MSR / Ares and the single large gun for it's class to the latter for sure...very Crusader. That FL canon may be a placeholder but I'd love to see them expanding that series up to S5. Either way I think I'm most excited for this ship at IAE!

[@markcritic2409]

16:00 maybe they're bowing to my screaming and making my Propsector MAX! Holy sheet - just like I asked! Pilot gets size2, copilot beside you gets a size1 support laser and can do other things onboard, including a SMALL refinery (not like the dedicated refinery ship.)

[@furiousfelicia5751]

I think whoever is working on the Itrepid got a lot of inspiration from Andor. The internal layout reminds me a lot of the Hallcraft from Andor.

[@wertacus]

I was surprised to see the ironclad on the list of short term deliverables. Feeling much better about that ccu. Thanks for this in depth look at each ship. Im hoping the salvage prospector will be good but ill stick with the vulture probably

[@angerskarin9222]

im happy as hell that my ironclad wont take years to make and i will get it before i die of old age.

[@ericwollaston5654]

The Starlancer model is likely the BLD, since the MAX is coming this year and that panel is for NEXT year. Otherwise I'd think TAC if you could see the guns, but maybe save for INVICTUS?

[@redsamurai6586]

Good video, thanks for your thoughts on the vehicles/ships.

[@SubliminaLstv]

thanks!

[@liamseven1604]

they would delay the ironclad assault cause it has a fabricator for building/repairs and crafting in general. if you own the assault you'll likely get the base ironclad as a loaner when that comes out tho.

[@Tenjac]

I think you were for the most part right. I think the second one MIGHT be the Argo MCV crafting vehicle, but the headlight thing might be right. Could well be Greycat like you said so I'll defer to you on that one. The Guardian... we're at a different angle than last time to complicate matters... it might a Guardian variant though. I think it is the Guardian though. So just those two that I think you missed... Guardian and Intrepid. You got the Apollo and a lot of people are missing it. Great job, great video!

[@SubliminaLstv]

I know the angle is different but the human for scale is off. If the humans are for scale why use them to deceive us? Guardian variant sure, but since when are variants significantly smaller? One thing I just saw is this ship people are saying is the intrepid seems to have a bottom turret using the crusader style like the MSR. They show the intrepid on the IAE showroom floor and there is no bottom turret. Why would a starter ship have a turret? I just see too many things that dont match lol.

[@theCabsAreHere1]

To clarify the clear confusion many of you somehow still have - The ships teased for IAE are separate from the look ahead at the next 12 months. They made this abundantly clear. Go re-watch citcon for reference, it’s really not that confusing.

[@yikes3049]

Vehicle 7 is not the Mirai Guardian (or at least the base version) as these are vehicles that will be worked on next year, but they already said that all the ships shown last year will be released by the end of the year except for the Legionnaire. I believe that it is a variant of the Guardian, maybe more torp/missile focused like the Fury MX or a QED variant as leaks have suggested.

[@mikecroper8422]

Some good guessing going on here, lol. I think I agree with most of what you said. Spotting the headlights on the potential Greycat vehicle was a good call. I also agree about the Apollo. However, I think your wrong re Starlancer MAX which, I reckon, is actually the Starlancer builder. Also, I think IAE will give us the Intrepid so it's not part of these teases... might be the Galaxy builder though.

[@Tenjac]

18:00 You can see the gun on the other side of the Intrepid. This thing is at an angle remember. The ship is asymmetrical but the cockpit is not! You're seeing one of the dorsals and the other is obscured. I'm completely the other direction. This is 100% the Intrepid and we'll see it in less than a month.

[@Tenjac]

24:05 Yep it matches the silhouette too. This drawing is at a higher angle and rotated so the gun would be hidden so the rotation doesn't match. Gonna have to disagree on this one.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Whatever that is on its starboard side I can say it is not an FL-Series cannon. And the headlights don't match anything. this ship is shaped like the liberator with a bridge the width of the ship.

[@SubliminaLstv]

We will see lol.

[@fmartingorb]

I think you are right about the Guardian. So we get heavy and Mid size... and 2026 with the Misc lineup we get the light fighter. The Fury for me is to be used in atmo from a base. Its range is small, no quantum... it is a short rage fighter. We are going to get a light fighter at some point

[@ashleyfraser2650]

I really like the idea of a fueling vehicle on the atlas platform. I really want a cargo vehicle on the atlas platform. Think how awesome military convoys could be?! I put it on Spectrum when the Spartan was announced. It wasn't a popular opinion haha

[@koolerpure]

i hope those ground vehicles they teased also means updating the driving physics. we need places we cant just fly to so bad lol

[@SubliminaLstv]

Agreed. But that team is tweaking master modes so I am not holding my breath.

[@robopenguin5501]

I'm really looking forward to this aspect of the game with dense forests shown in the new genesis planet tech.

[@angerskarin9222]

I think ground vehicles will be more usefull when we have base, because they said base would be shielded so people cant just drop bomb on them.

[@acrosome99]

They obviously changed the base-building hover platform and MULE since those whitebox images, so it is quite reasonable for the Atlas to be a base builder too.

[@seamus_o_ra]

Vehicle #2 could be another base building drone carrier. Perhaps large drones. And perhaps two versions like the Argo CSV

[@bloodstoneoperator5372]

If it’s the Drake command module maybe that right wing folds to a 90 degree and goes flush into the hull of the receiving vessel.

[@breadbeard6722]

I think they shortened the "crafting truck" because they can't make vehicles with a swivel function without developing stuff to allow for that first, so they just made it short so they can release it easily with base building

[@secondimpact7836]

That is the same reason the Cutty black can't swivel it's engines. They couldn't make it work.

[@randomuserame]

They made it shorter specifically so it can fit into more ships' cargo bays; which is also probably also why you can't stack boxes 2SCU high even though it should be capable of it

[@randomuserame]

@@secondimpact7836 WYM? cutty has vtol engines... Spirit has VTOL, Cutter has VTOL...they have rotation axis mechanics in the game already. Frankly, we just don't have a need for it since we do not have a use for "dumping" since this is mostly used to deposit granular objects (sand, dirt, snow, etc) which is not possible to have in a game of this scope/scale/quality (hardware limit).

[@xxxxxx7469]

The image is the Starlancer Max as you say, but the Starlancer TAC is stated to release in 2025 on the sales page so we know they will release that as well. The only one we know it is not is the BLD as they stated it will be released alongside basebuilding (and if you think basebuilding is coming in 2025 i got a bridge to sell ya).

[@hirofortis]

I really enjoyed citcon this year. IAE is gonna be interesting.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Yeah, this year's CitizenCon was pretty hype!

[@discorei8292]

It could be the starlancer max, but I think it is the starlancer bld since they implied that they want to get the base building in the game by the end of next year.

[@BuzZzKiller]

The Atlas in grey box you showed at 4:09 looks like a 5th wheel style trailer. Maybe in the silhouette its turned slightly right and the trailer is trailing behind so we only see the front of it? Vehicle trailers might be pretty interesting, but knowing SC, its going to be buggy as hell.

[@Maxxmentum]

The SM is supposed to hold "supply" material for the FM. Not sure if that is supposed to be how the vulture does it or cargo in the back.

[@StatikXero]

Ship 8 (misc salvager) looks very Argo to me. My brain is reconciling that the cockpit is masked by the shoulder of the ship on the left side of the picture (right side of the ship). The rear looks like almost everything Argo.

[@maxwellagrunewald]

I theorize the 2nd vehicle is a MLRS platform (Multiple launch rocket system) as its form factor is eerily similar to the american M270 which would explain the tracks. I bet CIG are looking into artillery platforms to siege new player bases with

[@maxwellagrunewald]

you can also JUST see the “cabin” is seperate from the back judging how the line at the top abruptly stops which could insinuate a turret or module in the back… similar to the M270

[@Hexley_Vexley]

The Mirai ships thus far have been modelled on TIE-Fighters so I would bet money on that being a TIE-Interceptor or maybe TIE-Bomber equivalent.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Those sound dope!

[@johnboyd9713]

Hot take. The Drake command shuttle is a boarding ship, and there is a docking collar built into the mono-landing-gear. It has four really weird design elements: A weirdly flat butt, a single, chonky landing gear, the folding wings, and the shiny cajones on the front. The folding wings only serve to indicate that it is Drake. The flat butt is mystery. But you don't design a ship with one landing gear unless that is tied to its function. But with the shiny balls, maybe it is a refueling ship. Landing gear area and flat butt would make sense as refueling surfaces. Could also be an actual exploration ship designed to be able to land on weird terrain, but with one gear and the weird shape, it would be even more front heavy than the connie. But that flat butt its got has to be a hint to its purpose because it is almost endearingly ugly. Very Drake. I stand with others that this is a hacking/boarding ship by drake that backs up to a ship's hull to attach, or there is a docking collar built into that chonky mono-landing gear, but then the balls confuse me They will market it as a rescue ship from derelicts of course.

[@nickchandran1798]

Think the Drake ship is a boarding ship like the Legionnaire. Those circle things at the front could be where it attaches and makes airlock

[@anthonyperson1179]

honestly hyped for the ground vehicles rn ngl

[@xSHADEx117]

The CSV-FM has a way different silhouette compared to the one they showed in the teaser. Look closer at the transition from the cab to the bed

[@modusponen1447]

I agree with others that the Starlancer is likely the BLD. This seems to be the year of base-building and I suspect that they want to release ships for it in as many sizes as they can, so maybe the Spartan variant is a base builder (I hope it's not a fuel tanker, but that makes the most sense). Oh and the med Terrapin with the Apollos says they're focusing on medical gameplay as well.

[@fmartingorb]

I have a theory about the military versions of the Ironclad and Starlancer TAC. These ships are base raid vehicles. Fire the ground, open a safe perimeter, drop supplies and personnel and in the case of the Ironclad deliver the Tonk Payload. I think they will come with base building

[@rooster1012]

Tac will most likely be sold at Invictus.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Agreed!

[@Mr1FTW]

I really hope that they have made a FL-44 - it´s my favorite design among the cannons, but have missed a size 4 (or 5) version of it.

[@Gh0stHack3r.]

Most new ships are base building related, since next big thing they are actively working on right now...

[@angerskarin9222]

I was gonna say the ironclad isn't for base, but it kinda is.. need lots of stuff to make a base.

[@MinionKain]

17:50 i'd like to take a stab in the dark and say that the unfamiliar design characteristics might be due to us seeing a new Small-Medium Consolidated Outland ship. The active production of the Pioneer means that there will be assets and adjacent ideas forming, and can fill a void in that lineup with a ship nobody really expects. And it have a strange flat pancake shape resembles the Pioneer design a bit.

[@TheRealMinotaur667]

If you go to the actual details page on the RSI website for the Starlancer Max, you will see that it becomes Flight Ready after 3.24.3. Which is the patch that we're getting right before IAE. The Tac and Bld are both slated for later than that. My money is on the Bld, since we know we're getting homesteads and base building within the next year.

[@SubliminaLstv]

These ships are just what they are "working on in the next 12 months" the MAX isn't complete they are getting it ready for IAE. The BLD does not have a light bar in the front neither does the TAC. We do not know we are getting homesteads and base building with in the next year because CR said at the end of this Citcon that we would get base building in 12-18mo. So by that logic we can almost guarantee no base building in LIVE when next years citcon kicks off. I am not saying we arent getting the BLD. I am just saying that siluette is the MAX. We could get all three. Or just two. The terrapin was on the IAE showroom floor and teased. So the max being at IAE means nothing.

[@rooster1012]

@@SubliminaLstv The MISC Tac clearly has a light bar as shown in the concept art so I am sure the Build will too as it would be a waste of dev time to have to go through and change art assets for the build just for lights.

[@SpawnItems]

"u guys can formulate your own opinion" my friend, my dear friend! you are the specialist, you are the meta-star citizen-player. i think most here watch your content because of YOUR opinion :D lov u

[@scienz0220]

Settle down

[@marinesusmc]

I am pretty sure that the Starlancer silhouette will be the BLD since base building is coming next year.

[@wilhelmwick2038]

33:35 yeah the second big turret is here. Love your vids

[@SubliminaLstv]

NICE! If it weren't I would have a problem with that lol.

[@keevajazz6286]

16:30 idk how that's not just a variant of the prospector. It's almost same silhouette, personally im very exited if it is one! And I may just be memory holing this but I swear it has a useless cargo bay on the back im happy they will be making use of it

[@captainvlad]

The Atlas platform is what I'd hoped to see a flatbed cargo truck of

[@larry84903]

I personally think vehicle 9 is the 3rd zeus variant. The bridge has a very similar silhouette to the zeus

[@Nyzrael]

The one people think is the Intrepid, i think is actually the passenger ship backers have wanted forever!

[@Thee__Don]

If we are not calling this the Med-Pin then we are missing out on something epic!

[@eldrinlanister]

I don't think any of the ships shown on this year tease are ships we will see this year. So that means that the Crudader Intrepid, the Mirai Guardian, the Polaris, and the Starlancer can't be on the list. These will be completely new ships that we will see during 2025 at some point.

[@marty2129]

A Mirai exploration ship would be nice... something that would be a competition to 315p, or a step up from that... The flat "Crusader" thing also looks a bit like a flattened Zeus and while as a C1 owner I am currently very vary of anything RSI, I wouldn't discount the possibility of that being a small-ish RSI ship (but I would definitely prefer a Crusader... provided they don't fuck us over with it like they did with Zeus and C1)... And about the Drake, a drake interdictor could be something...

[@SubliminaLstv]

Mirai explorer would be nice.

[@Dolhedew]

To me, it looks like the "Drake shuttle" is the only ship facing to the right instead of to the left. Looking at it from that perspective, it looks symmetrical and the circular portions are now at the back and could represent some kind of grav-tech? And if THAT'S the case, maybe it's CNOU or straight up alien

[@wildcard328]

Hi subliminal. when i joined the SC world about the 3.15 patch, you were my go-to person for info, ships, fitting, then you stopped putting out SC content. i was ecstatic to see new content from you again. are you back or have you move your focus to another game and come back when big changes come. i miss your weekly Insite. what are your plans for covering SC?

[@SubliminaLstv]

Thanks for watching and being a channel member for so long. Making content on ship info and fittings is my passion. But since 3.14 they baselined ships, weapons and components. And it made those build guides not worth the time and effort to create. I just have a website I update each patch with my loadouts. In addition I have had minor mental health issues (Learning I have ADHD and how to live with it) and family obligations. The good news is 3.22 added weapon variation back, as well as ships to a degree with interceptor, fighter, etc. roles being chiseled out. Now with 3.24.2 we have component variation even stealth values added to components. And true ship balancing being more likely with physical armor so close. So I plan on resuming those guides by IAE. But the format will change for the better. I want to do a tour for the people who just want to see the ship. A buyers guide to inform the player and give my opinions. And a loadout guide for owners to have ideas on how to equip a ship for a couple of use cases. I will always need to make content like this where I inform or give opinions on the new thing. This video will see more views in just a few days than some of my heavily edited and scripted videos will ever get. I also like making spacesim hardware videos. But the ship guides will always be the cornerstone. Just needed CIG to add variety to ships components and weapons. Glad its here and more coming soon!

[@jacktyler58]

13:10 only reason I think it's the Guardian is the dev, right before showing this, actually said we are getting the Mirai Guardian. But maybe he said it to throw us off. Edit: and if memory serves, he said specifically for IAE? I could be mistaken.

[@PreybirdMKII]

Happy the Perseus is getting underway. Little sad there is no Galaxy, but oh well. Still very sad there is no Railen.

[@auburn8833]

From the little I can see, the greycat tracked vehicle has some sort of device on a flatbed, it almost looks like an MLRS launcher, but doubtful as to what the device on the back is

[@terencespragg5708]

The number 8 ship that you think on the left of it is a lift I think it is like what is built into the pioneer legs a resource tapping connection.

[@fmartingorb]

Just my two cents on the Greycat... could be a towing vehicle. As well as the Anvil Atlas Chasis. Shielded transports for cargo, machines, drones... those two are for base building. The Anvil Atlas you see in the concept art and the shadow is the same, but the cabin is turned to the right, so you do not see the trailer. Just like the F7C, the new hornets will carry cargo in the same location.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Certainly plausible.