CItizenCon Teased Ships Explained

[@SubliminaLstv]

For everyone who is in disagreement with me on the Starlancer. FIrst I'm not saying it CAN'T be the BLD. My official take is that we are getting more than just the MAX. My opinion for why none of us can be 100% sure on this being the BLD is based on two objective facts. TMK, the light bar is shown on every image and video clip we have on the MAX, and is NEVER shown on the TAC or BLD. There is nothing shown in the teaser that suggests its the BLD or the TAC. We only know for sure that it is a Starlancer. At the end of the day it would be illogical for them to hold off on the TAC because making a combat variant at the same time or just after the MAX would save development time & cost. Holding off on the BLD due to base building being 12-18mo away seems logical. The max releasing during IAE is irrelevant. The Anvil Terrapin Med-Evac was clearly shown on the showroom floor of IAE and it is teased. The date has been officially set for MAX, the year is officially set for TAC, and the BLD is TBD. LLAP!

[@soeveth]

I think everyone is wrong. When they introduced the Starlancer they said they are going to introduce the first 3 of the family(max,Tac and Build). I believe this one to be a fourth they havnt talked about.

[@CyberneticArgumentCreator]

I see an indentation where the lights are on the TAC in the picture you showed from the site. It's the same color paint as the rest of the nose, but has an outline. To me, it could be any of them.

[@jesseschworm8153]

Thought the MAX was coming out during IAE so it's got to be Either the TAC or the BLD. They technically already showed off the TAC and are selling it. so not sure why they would include it in this sort of sneek view. I kinda think that only leaves the BLD. (Unless it is another variant) You dismissed the BLD mentioning that base building ships would be to early but it's clear the Pioneer is also one these sneek peek ships.

[@yikes3049]

I think its both variants, just like how they only showed the Ironclad but will almost certainly release the Ironclad Assault alongside it. These variants are very easy for them to produce so the only time they wont make one is if the tech for it isn't already in like with the Spirit E1 for instance.

[@SubliminaLstv]

@@CyberneticArgumentCreator This is classic automobile design, save manufacturing cost by having the front bumper be identical on all models but some get the indentation filled in with a feature. Parking sensor, fog lights, paint, etc.. It is 100% plausible that they didn't add the led lights to the BLD or TAC yet. But since that light is on nothing but the max, the teased ship is either the MAX or we don't know. You cannot say with certainty its the BLD or TAC because there is no proof of that. Evidence points to MAX, but its plausible they will add the lightbar to the rest later.

[@The_Fallen_1]

I think the reason they have SCU boxes next to basically every ship is so we have an accurate sense of scale. Last year we just had a person that was an ok but imperfect measuring tool. EDIT: for the suspected Guardian, it's very likely the variant that was datamined rather then the base version we know about.

[@QuarthDoesThings]

"Terrapin torture chair" is something I've never heard but is painfully accurate

[@randlebrowne2048]

A mobile dentistry office?

[@MCC1776]

Great takes, glad you're a natural and respectful sceptic who uses logical reason to deduct conclusions. Really enjoyed the video, thanks for taking the time for quality and not just quantity content.

[@CheckSix]

Does anyone else feel disappointed but also not at all disappointed by Citcon, it was so confusing. CR and the team answered so many questions. The answers weren't necessarily what some people wanted to hear but everyone seemed happy to just have answers.

[@HereticusS42]

@@CheckSix No. It just you.

[@fishfighter2]

Yes

[@lekochi]

I was disappointed, I left the con early.

[@koolerpure]

im always disappointed, we forget that marketing controls everything CIG does. i mean hell we just got the hauling update and half the ships we own cannot even function as a cargo ship as its suppose to, why cant we lower the carrack pods in the cargo update? citcon just showed us stuff we could have but we probably wont

[@stormfire962imastarcitizen5]

Disappointment? Absolutely not and I found the entire event very informative as well as excited for what is about to come to SC. If anything I believe you are the one who doesn't understand and you need to stop looking at the game through a two dimensional viewpoint and open your mind up to the three dimensions and the capability with this game will and is becoming.

[@drakedge2000]

4:53 I think that the fuel vehicle makes a lot of sense for refueling the power plants.

[@M0T4]

PowerPlant need to refuel? It makes more sense to supply hydrogen to the ships.

[@drakedge2000]

Yeah in base building there’s power plants that require fuel

[@rooster1012]

@@M0T4 Yes power plants need fuel as shown in base building demo and I am sure it could supply ships and vehicles to.

[@coolgyownsyou]

So instead of just building a fuel tank, we're gonna park a vehicle there instead

[@mhmm4840]

​@coolgyownsyou both ships and vehicles use fuel. And if you are producing it it makes sense if you only need to move it a little bit, to haul it with a truck. Plus the power plant has a fuel tank you can probably fill it with a ship too i don't see why you wouldn't be able to

[@the5starx]

*Cries in Galaxy*. They said last year it would be before the Perseus.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Remember these are only SOME of what they are working on.

[@arenomusic]

Legionnaire :(

[@Pilgrim_HEX]

I was gonna melt my Galaxy but then I thought that perhaps the total silence was because they might release it at IAE. The hopium is strong with this one though. Lol😂

[@Cplblue]

​@@Pilgrim_HEX my guy, the Polaris has been teased since Invictus and is slated for an IAE release. There's no way in hell the Galaxy is a surprise release at IAE. That's not even copium.

[@TheEddieguy82]

@@Cplblue one can dream tho

[@o0neill]

thats the over analyzation i was locking for 🙂

[@honeyspringshomestead1411]

All I can hope from CIG is they get a handle on things and progress quicker on things. It will help immensely if things are stable. Here is hoping they revisit old designs and update as needed like they did for the Polaris... looking at ships like Perseus etc etc.

[@Frank-costanza]

I honestly would love it if servers were just stable. I don't like playing if I'm going to lose everything to a weird server issue.

[@Mr-R.R.]

Ships revisiting is the LEAST important thing for CIG right now. How about them focus on actual gameplay instead

[@DABOYDJEM1]

#9 is the Anvil Liberator, a CIG member already leaked it

[@stryker1624]

Oh Subliminal. The unmistakable silhouette of a Perseus is all I needed to see after all these years of waiting for it

[@randlebrowne2048]

I just hope that they change the location of the bottom/rear remote turret. That thing had a horrible placement; only being able to shoot straight back or down. Maybe they'll give it some of those single point-defense guns that they just added to the Polaris?

[@PCPAyLOAD]

I think you're misunderstanding the reason for cargo boxes and NPCs in those teaser pics. They are just putting them next to the ships to demonstrate scale.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Could be but why do we need scu and humans for scale? Why does every cargo ship have scu boxes? And not every other ship as well?

[@randomuserame]

Yes, but also no. The Medical Terrapin literally has a medical gurney sat right there. But for the most part, yes, I think the people and boxes are there to show scale, and I think the NPCs having weapons shows it's a ship geared for military/combat use

[@Kydelz]

12:37 Regarding your doubts that this ship is the Mirai Gurdian: it is important to note that the old teaser shows the Guardian hovering above the ground without its landing gear deployed. The ship in the new leak, however, has its gear down, which could possibly indicate that the differences in the shape of the "wings" towards the front of the ship are simply due to the fact they rotate/rearticulate when the gear is down to accommodate for landing similar to the wings of the Corsair/Scorpius. This would mean that the thinner cross section is visible from the side during flight, while the thicker side rotates down when the gear is deployed. Just a theory. Also, about the scale of the man next to the ship: it is probably just a discrepancy due to the perspective & angle of the camera shots.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Your thoughts on the perspective are 100% true. I myself noticed the different stance. But even if you take that into account it's still larger than this teaser. And I don't understand why they would add humans to give you the sense of scale and then adjust the camera to throw it off. If you are correct then the first teaser the human is farther away than the ship, and In the new teaser it is closer than the ship. Why add humans for perspective and not place them as close to the ship as you can? Furthermore they had just told us we are getting the Polaris, Intrepid, and Guardian this year. Why don't we have new teasers for the Polaris and intrepid?

[@ValosarX]

I agree with on this one. This silhouette has a certain biological element to it that the guardian we know about does not have like the wings can articulate like claws. I think this is either a smaller Guardian type ship or a Banu fighter ​@@SubliminaLstv

[@bigbuna]

it’s just a Gardian variant

[@randlebrowne2048]

@@SubliminaLstv To me, the blue image looks a lot like some variation of the Constellation (seen from the rear). It could be an upcoming rework or even a smaller ship to compete in the medium freighter market.

[@sarthakdixit4834]

Ship 10- 27:41 seems to be an alien ship (xian) its got that bulbous things as the cockpit like the one in the santokyia

[@furiousfelicia5751]

I think whoever is working on the Itrepid got a lot of inspiration from Andor. The internal layout reminds me a lot of the Hallcraft from Andor.

[@_Addi_]

My guess for the Anvil ground vehicle, is its a hacking truck. And I think the greycat is fuel transport. Maybe both are fuel.

[@billhille6715]

really interesting point on the gaurdian look a like in the blue ship line up, can't wait to see what that is now. Great video!

[@dernamenlose13]

Awesome video @SubliminaL! Which Programm are you using/ we are seeing in the background?

[@Illfury]

That first hornet gives me bounty Hunter energy. That 2scu crate could be the cart to transport them.

[@SubliminaLstv]

OHHHHH 💦💦💦

[@MisterFoxton]

Poor, irrelevant Hawk.

[@Heshinsi]

One thing I want to point out is that this year they never actually said these were ships they were hoping to release in the next 12 months like they said the year before. The words John Crewe used were, "let's have quick a look at some, emphasis on some, of the vehicles that we're working on in the next 12 months". So hopefully people aren't setting themselves up for disappoint and think they were promised something the team at CIG never made.

[@Jokolism]

The unknow ship starting at around 18:00, my first guess was anvil, because of the cockpit. Using the cockpit of the carrack and scale that down you get something like that. Also anvil is lacking a decent sized medium ship that is interesting in my opinion so.

[@IrisCorven]

Yeah, it has an Anvil feel to it. It looks like a sloped, wide cockpit. Maybe some sort of Anvil hauler?

[@Kurashinno]

Hey man, I used your code to buy a set of Predator Mounts for my sticks. He's MIA, the discord is read only and people haven't gotten their stuff for like a year. Would be cool to hear you address this, maybe take down affiliate links etc. Thanks man

[@ThinkFreely2012]

@Kurashinno he has addressed it in the discord before it went read-only, and on his stream. I'm one of the ones waiting since Nov 2023. You're best bet is to try to get a charge back from your bank if it hasn't been too long.

[@trullin9326]

Appreciate the explanations of your thinking for these. So many creators just say what they think without giving reasons. I agree with you on the Intrepid and Guardian, there's not reason to include those in the new lineup.

[@zakyrath]

Just wanted to mention about the tracker mk2 the person kneeling next to the ship is probably checking data cores. I can see how having external data access like the herald would be extremely useful on a scout ship.

[@kalrex6615]

Totally agree with you on the Guardian. When I saw everyone saying that new picture was the Guardian, I'm looking at the pictures like... these are definitely two different ships. They have different shapes entirely.

[@wun1gee]

That's definitely the MISC Fortune/Fortuna/salvage starter. The leaks talked about a "cargo elevator" and that definitely has one.

[@randlebrowne2048]

I'm just hoping that it has several times the cargo capacity as the Vulture.

[@christophermontoya5995]

was an interesting perspective. keep up the great content.

[@BlueForSureRight]

omg you've been back for two weeks now!! I can't believe I missed it!!

[@friendlyspacedragon7250]

For the mystery vehicle 9 I can think of two potential matches with some parts that don't fit. Primarily for their flat profile. Of course these could be completely wrong. -Liberator, the cylindrical engines in the back are missing. But it would be useful for Pyro if we need to haul ships and ground vehicles for the sandworm fight. -Arrasta, doesn't have the dual turret on the front side. But it does have the little fins in the back nacelle and otherwise might fit the silhouette from the perspective given.

[@maRomar0]

Really excited for the Greycat one, hopefully its a ursa competitor with scu space inside. If it is it's also likely modular because of the shaping around the back

[@soaphelps]

15:50. ive have been saying since the vulture came out "man i hope they take the prospector platform and just make it a salvage ship using the bags." and with cargo elevators and being able to buy the bags now its making even more sense in my head that it will use the bags.

[@MultiFishslayer]

thanks for the info! this time next year the ships will be out by the end of the following year! You know how it works!

[@wun1gee]

A tracked rover/APC would be pretty freaking cool.

[@srgfubar]

My friend had an interesting theory about the atlas platform one. Since they talked about how you'd NEED to assault shielded bases from the ground, his guess was that it was some kind of mobile operation command center.

[@SergeiMosin]

Armed, ground based fuel tanker is a sensible concept... Especially after they mentioned something about it not being always a good idea to take off with your ships. It would be a lot safer to fuel on the ground during those storms.

[@sjoervanderploeg4340]

@3:08 you can see this ground vehicle and the Drake vehicle in the IAE fly through they showed during CitizenCon, the ground vehicle is on the left and the Drake ship on the right of the RSI ship in the middle!

[@sjoervanderploeg4340]

And vehicle four is also shown and named in a video where they said Bault flies it or likes it, if I stumble over it I'll come back here!

[@Tenjac]

28:19 Absolutely correct. Apollo. Been shocked at how many didn't get this one.

[@SubliminaLstv]

100%

[@randomuserame]

As a former Apollo Waiter, I saw it immediately. Too bad medical never got fleshed out before I moved on from wanting to main as a medic. If they get those space-capable hover gurneys in (like the pictures), I might rethink it.

[@festersmith8352]

@@randomuserame With the two med ships planned like this, we may see some good changes coming to med gameplay we don't know about. Otherwise they're just larger Red's.

[@festersmith8352]

I didn't catch it. But glad to see it now.

[@SergeantRAD]

I agree... ...I did not consider a racing Hornet variant.... super cool and must have for my ANVIL collection.

[@TonicCantaloupe]

What I want to know is when will the Freelancers get nice aesthetic updates to match the newer style of MISC ships????

[@tovirus9818]

The nose on vehicle 10 also reminds me of the anvil design of older ships with sensors or cooling intakes inside a boxy stub and a straight cockpit frame similar to the Hawk. But more likely it‘s an angular Drake Cockpit frame like anyone suspects 😅 Just wanted to throw it out there 😉

[@MatsushitaShige]

Intrepid and Perseus making me more excited. Two ships I have been wanting/asking for.

[@veizour]

Investigator SubliminaL :D Nice analysis. Thanks for another great video!

[@redsamurai6586]

Good video, thanks for your thoughts on the vehicles/ships.

[@SubliminaLstv]

thanks!

[@Winterx69]

Loving the fact that the Intrepid comes with its gun built into the wing - that's a first. Would have made a lot of sense in the case of the Reliant line-up. Well, one can dream.

[@cyanetica4802]

I'm really happy about the Terrapin Medi-.. Gamera! But a rather small Crusader ship is also nice to have for sure.

[@SharpEdgeSoda]

Hornet Ghost: The Stealth Device should be a specific item on the Power Bar menu that needs a lot of power and cooling. You'd have to turn off guns and maybe shields to use it, just like the Quantum Drive.

[@DarkFader2000]

For #10 it could be the shuttle that they referenced that you would use to fly to your ship rather than place an insurance claim.

[@wolf_oce5424]

I think what 7 th8 k is the Apollo might be the aegis Vulcan. It makes more sense toothan having multiple healing vehicles at once. Plus with pyro, rearm and refuel going to be more prevalent.

[@tyranavalon]

I think #2 might be a construction vehicle based on the Ursa Rover frame. Similar to the Med-evac and the Lynx. Similarly, I think that #3 is also a construction vehicle built on the Atlas Platform. Many point out the turret on top, claiming that construction equipment doesn't need a turret, but I would remind them that the UEE still needs to build forward bases and that the easiest land to claim will undoubtedly be in lawless systems. Having a bit of anti-air or anti-personel defense will be useful. Don't know why, but #7 gives me crucible vibes. Maybe a small repair ship? I like the idea that #12 might be the Starlancer BLD. There is a lot of construction equipment making its way into the game over the next year. I hope that the Galaxy ends up being one of the surprise ships we get between now and then.

[@gokkiyoutube]

The greycat is probably an armored tracked infantry transport, similar to an M2 Bradley in scope. Or, instead of infantry, ir carries cargo in that boxy back

[@IHiggs]

15:17 to further your argument that this ISNT the Mirai Guardian. During the CitizenCon presentation where they bring out the Ship Director/Ship Design Director--- They revealed in a previous slide before that the Polaris, Guardian, Intrepid were planned to be released before the end of 2024. Then they proceeded to show this part of the teased ships slated for 2025 of their silhouettes!

[@eziiii3536]

thats what i thought too but ppl in the Pipline discord were basically screaming at me saying i'm an idiot for saying that lol

[@Tenjac]

No, they said these are some of the ships they are releasing IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS. That includes IAE this year. The intrepid is in here, as is the medical terrapin and those are releasing next month. "Before the end of the year" and "in the next 12 months" overlaps for more than 2 months.

[@protoni6996]

i think i see that shape in sq42 video what they show there and enemies has ship what has that shape. so i think it's gonna be alien ship.but who build it. i donno...

[@IHiggs]

@@eziiii3536 they do look strikingly similar on the other hand couldve just gotten beef'ed but due to initial design flaws like the MSR. Not sure they would do another quad-wing design right after the Guardian but who knows its all speculation rn anyways

[@PolBlanesCebrian]

@@IHiggs It looks beefed up but much smaller?

[@Maxxmentum]

The SM is supposed to hold "supply" material for the FM. Not sure if that is supposed to be how the vulture does it or cargo in the back.

[@citizeninja]

Based on its landing gear and assuming it's a port-side rear quarter-view of the ship (45 degree angle between the side and back views), ship #9 is probably the Intrepid, imo. Also you can spot its 2 doors (cockpit and side door) by the door panels and floor hazard stripes in the IAE showroom preview. The Drake ship is maybe a garbage recycler, which is as close to crafting as you'd want a Drake ship to get.

[@-JustHuman-]

Must say I agree with your guesses on the ships.

[@awsm253]

As an owner of a Redeemer, I've been looking forwards to the perceus. Especially since the Redeemer was downgraded from a Gunship into a Multi-crew 'Heavy Fighter'. I don't think I'll be able to stop myself from buying one the moment it comes up for sale.

[@SubliminaLstv]

I am a Perseus fan as well, Also Ares ION owner. I try to tell everyone CIG has a track record of not balancing these large weapons correctly. I anticipate when it first drops it will be OP and have to get nerfed. Hopefully before it goes to live it is in a good spot. It may even get nerfed again months or a year later if it becomes "too popular". Most games use popularity to determine what ships need nerfing. I guess its a good practice, nerf what everyone is using and buff what no one is using.

[@Volf1916]

Spartan platform vehicle, possibly a larger base building drone carrier? As CIG likes having competition between manufacturers, such as the reclaimer and vulture for salvaging? For medical Terrapin, rescue, leatherback. As far as the "make sense" Max first over tac and same time, I refer you too CIG releasing the A1 spirit bomber before the C1 Spirit cargo. They were released separately as the A1 was the loaner for those like me who pledged the C1.

[@fmartingorb]

I think you are right about the Guardian. So we get heavy and Mid size... and 2026 with the Misc lineup we get the light fighter. The Fury for me is to be used in atmo from a base. Its range is small, no quantum... it is a short rage fighter. We are going to get a light fighter at some point

[@MottDaHoople]

I thought the MISC Starlancer shown was the Build... I was kinda hoping it was anyway... I'm glad you followed your Opinion with an explanation...

[@liamseven1604]

they would delay the ironclad assault cause it has a fabricator for building/repairs and crafting in general. if you own the assault you'll likely get the base ironclad as a loaner when that comes out tho.

[@ericwollaston5654]

The Starlancer model is likely the BLD, since the MAX is coming this year and that panel is for NEXT year. Otherwise I'd think TAC if you could see the guns, but maybe save for INVICTUS?

[@Fijib0y]

For that second hornet, both the hornets and the F8 lightnings from the citizen-con SQ42 gameplay cut scenes looked as if they had extra “wings“ or fins. The silhouette of the second hornet kind of looks like the squadron 42 hornet from the cut scenes.

[@breadbeard6722]

I think they shortened the "crafting truck" because they can't make vehicles with a swivel function without developing stuff to allow for that first, so they just made it short so they can release it easily with base building

[@secondimpact7836]

That is the same reason the Cutty black can't swivel it's engines. They couldn't make it work.

[@randomuserame]

They made it shorter specifically so it can fit into more ships' cargo bays; which is also probably also why you can't stack boxes 2SCU high even though it should be capable of it

[@randomuserame]

@@secondimpact7836 WYM? cutty has vtol engines... Spirit has VTOL, Cutter has VTOL...they have rotation axis mechanics in the game already. Frankly, we just don't have a need for it since we do not have a use for "dumping" since this is mostly used to deposit granular objects (sand, dirt, snow, etc) which is not possible to have in a game of this scope/scale/quality (hardware limit).

[@Hank_808]

OMG, Terrapin Medivac got me feelin feelings. Can't wait, I love my terrapin.

[@ElijahNMitchell]

I could see the Ghost having shielded cargo for black ops missions

[@Crycane]

My guess for the Drake ship: Cutlass MK II. CIG loves MK II stuff in recent times.

[@Thee__Don]

If we are not calling this the Med-Pin then we are missing out on something epic!

[@Power5]

The teasers of next ships are ships that will be released in the next 12-18 months. Next month is within that 12-18 months. They could have included the ships that are going to be shown at IAE just so the people tracking the number of deliverables have a higher % completed at this time next year. Crew said no alien ships were being worked on, so I doubt the intrepid could be an alien ship.

[@PabloMotte]

I think there is more to the starlancer tac than the max. The little hangar, drop bay and those large turrets will take longer to add in, so only the max will be available at IAE.

[@cygnus6623]

I hope you are correct about the Appolo. Many have been waiting years for that one. I think the FL is a size 4 or 5 on the Crusader starter. I saw some screenshot of a medical Terrapin. That would be cool as well.

[@santobell]

The Anvil ground vehicle is a troop transport, it was mentioned years ago. Drake Tug, Can tow ships and or haul cargo boxes behind it like a space truck (best guess).

[@festersmith8352]

The troop transport is already in game. The Spartan. Has been for a long time. I'm leaning on what he said. But maybe a medical.

[@daxx0r]

Maybe this is just wishful thinking, but the shape of the "Mirai Guardian" at 12:35 looks very similar to the Constellation to me. I think the size looks right, and if we're looking at it from the back, the placement of the nacelles would be roughly correct. On the right side of the silhouette, we can even glimpse what could be a very angular RSI-esque bridge. That being said, the actual shape of the nacelles is a lot more smooth and solid than what's on the connie now, so it'd have to have undergone some pretty major rework.

[@dmitrit.4862]

As for the Mirai, I think that's a "forced perspective". Means, they put the Mirai further away so it looks smaller and the NPC closer so that the NPC looks bigger. I can imagine that it was done on purpose to confuse people. But then again, they mentioned that the Guardian is being worked on and didn't mention any further Mirai ships as far as I can recall.

[@AlexODriscoll-zu9nf]

the tracked vehicle is an armored personnel carrier, definitely gonna be useful for assaulting bases

[@flockofwildcactus]

A single S4 on the Intrepid would be pretty limiting, giving it about the same firepower as a Cutter (just a tad more). So I'm hoping it'll be a single S5 to set it apart from the other ships around it's class just below those that have a S4 + 2x S3 (Avengers, 325a) but above those with 3x S3 (300i,, Syulen) without the ability to mix loadout. Pros and cons, etc. The asymmetrical design calls to the MSR / Ares and the single large gun for it's class to the latter for sure...very Crusader. That FL canon may be a placeholder but I'd love to see them expanding that series up to S5. Either way I think I'm most excited for this ship at IAE!

[@michaelanderson6627]

great breakdown... but I think that is the intrepid... will be fun to find out next year :)

[@yikes3049]

Vehicle 7 is not the Mirai Guardian (or at least the base version) as these are vehicles that will be worked on next year, but they already said that all the ships shown last year will be released by the end of the year except for the Legionnaire. I believe that it is a variant of the Guardian, maybe more torp/missile focused like the Fury MX or a QED variant as leaks have suggested.

[@ShadzDash]

That stubby ship with the folded wings could be a mineral extraction ship. (the one you have listed as the Drake command module/shuttle)

[@BuzZzKiller]

The Atlas in grey box you showed at 4:09 looks like a 5th wheel style trailer. Maybe in the silhouette its turned slightly right and the trailer is trailing behind so we only see the front of it? Vehicle trailers might be pretty interesting, but knowing SC, its going to be buggy as hell.

[@Tenjac]

I think you were for the most part right. I think the second one MIGHT be the Argo MCV crafting vehicle, but the headlight thing might be right. Could well be Greycat like you said so I'll defer to you on that one. The Guardian... we're at a different angle than last time to complicate matters... it might a Guardian variant though. I think it is the Guardian though. So just those two that I think you missed... Guardian and Intrepid. You got the Apollo and a lot of people are missing it. Great job, great video!

[@SubliminaLstv]

I know the angle is different but the human for scale is off. If the humans are for scale why use them to deceive us? Guardian variant sure, but since when are variants significantly smaller? One thing I just saw is this ship people are saying is the intrepid seems to have a bottom turret using the crusader style like the MSR. They show the intrepid on the IAE showroom floor and there is no bottom turret. Why would a starter ship have a turret? I just see too many things that dont match lol.

[@dennisthehazarddb1095]

sounds very good!

[@51ghardy]

Always appreciate your videos. Highly accurate and informative. The Drake Command Pod - What if it is an Origin science or explorer? They do have a series with flippy wings.

[@vikingserpent4991]

Excited for the intrepid! Hope it's a starter pack. Eyeballing the TAC, Mirai Guardian and med Terrapin, looks like this years ship releases wil be better than last year by a mile! They need to get the servers out of degraded and working (5 days now) by IAE if the goal is attracting new players and selling ships though.😮‍💨

[@ridley_skorps]

Awesome! I really agree with your speculations. i do not think they repeat ships on the slide which i've been seeing a lot. The blue slides are ships they will start working on 2025 so if we are lucky we get them by IAE'25 or start of '26

[@Tenjac]

18:00 You can see the gun on the other side of the Intrepid. This thing is at an angle remember. The ship is asymmetrical but the cockpit is not! You're seeing one of the dorsals and the other is obscured. I'm completely the other direction. This is 100% the Intrepid and we'll see it in less than a month.

[@Tenjac]

24:05 Yep it matches the silhouette too. This drawing is at a higher angle and rotated so the gun would be hidden so the rotation doesn't match. Gonna have to disagree on this one.

[@SubliminaLstv]

Whatever that is on its starboard side I can say it is not an FL-Series cannon. And the headlights don't match anything. this ship is shaped like the liberator with a bridge the width of the ship.

[@SubliminaLstv]

We will see lol.

[@DABOYDJEM1]

Anvil liberator lets go !​@SubliminaLstv

[@Gh0stHack3r.]

Most new ships are base building related, since next big thing they are actively working on right now...

[@angerskarin9222]

I was gonna say the ironclad isn't for base, but it kinda is.. need lots of stuff to make a base.

[@RainOfFodderco]

We'll be lucky to get half that includes the ships that were supposed to make it in this year.

[@MinionKain]

17:50 i'd like to take a stab in the dark and say that the unfamiliar design characteristics might be due to us seeing a new Small-Medium Consolidated Outland ship. The active production of the Pioneer means that there will be assets and adjacent ideas forming, and can fill a void in that lineup with a ship nobody really expects. And it have a strange flat pancake shape resembles the Pioneer design a bit.

[@stevenwilson7255]

Keep up the good work!

[@SubliminaLstv]

Appreciate it!

[@nickchandran1798]

Think the Drake ship is a boarding ship like the Legionnaire. Those circle things at the front could be where it attaches and makes airlock

[@acrosome99]

They obviously changed the base-building hover platform and MULE since those whitebox images, so it is quite reasonable for the Atlas to be a base builder too.

[@Kestrelkil]

Number 8 looks like a mining head attached, leaks talked about a medium misc ship with salvage, so possibly a mining salvage combo ship

[@discorei8292]

It could be the starlancer max, but I think it is the starlancer bld since they implied that they want to get the base building in the game by the end of next year.

[@bloodstoneoperator5372]

If it’s the Drake command module maybe that right wing folds to a 90 degree and goes flush into the hull of the receiving vessel.

[@xSHADEx117]

The CSV-FM has a way different silhouette compared to the one they showed in the teaser. Look closer at the transition from the cab to the bed

[@xxxxxx7469]

The image is the Starlancer Max as you say, but the Starlancer TAC is stated to release in 2025 on the sales page so we know they will release that as well. The only one we know it is not is the BLD as they stated it will be released alongside basebuilding (and if you think basebuilding is coming in 2025 i got a bridge to sell ya).

[@auburn8833]

From the little I can see, the greycat tracked vehicle has some sort of device on a flatbed, it almost looks like an MLRS launcher, but doubtful as to what the device on the back is

[@mikecroper8422]

Some good guessing going on here, lol. I think I agree with most of what you said. Spotting the headlights on the potential Greycat vehicle was a good call. I also agree about the Apollo. However, I think your wrong re Starlancer MAX which, I reckon, is actually the Starlancer builder. Also, I think IAE will give us the Intrepid so it's not part of these teases... might be the Galaxy builder though.

[@archangelari3420]

Brand new here, love the informative content!

[@apophatos824]

Good sleuthing. Though I have to say, I am a bit sad that the Ironclad was brought online before the Liberator.

[@drunit8122]

Also notice the "mirai guardian" in the top image has landing gear and the bottom image doesnt. I thought they used hover tech and not feet, the bottom image doesnt look like it has landing gear. Another reason it could be something else entirely.