Revealing the Silhouettes - Pt. 1

[@Vaffi]

Quality over quantity is something this community really needs atm. And from all the silhouette videos out there, this is by far the most interesting. Great work !

[@ace_tristPWN]

Wow thanks, it took me 2 weeks so I really appreciate that!

[@Yzen85]

I 100% agree on this comment regarding quality over quantity.

[@mouseclick92]

@@ace_tristPWN Just the arrows when you compared the medical Terrapin, one arrow on each pic, so helpful. It's too often that the creator assumes the viewer recognizes what they're talking about.

[@ace_tristPWN]

@@mouseclick92 Even that takes more times than it looks like, so I appreciate that it's... appreciated! :)

[@Tefflar]

Well done! Seems you put a lot of work in this and it shows!

[@Deceaser]

yea

[@Bleinz6360]

At last someone that actually compares the silhouettes instead of just speculating! Great job!

[@Avenger__One]

what a brilliant breakdown

[@dianeweaver8379]

Very professionally done! Especially the sketch work for the Guardian. I look forward to Part 2!

[@protoni6996]

i was so wrong. i see that sq42 video and one of vanduul ships has similar "claw" and i was so sure it's going to be some alien ship. but now after i see guardian and see that silhouette again. i realize how wrong i was. 😅 but for my defense im pretty new player and didn't even know guardian is in progress 😅

[@theCabsAreHere1]

Always a massive privilege to see SC from your perspective Trist, your talents are truly unmatched my friend. Thank you for all of your hard work, masterful as always!

[@ace_tristPWN]

Thank you so much :)

[@Amrin-05]

I don’t know why youtube recommended this to me, but I am very happy that it did. The quality of the video is amazing and out of all the videos talking about these silhouettes this was the only one I was actually interested in. Great video, I will definitely watch your future content. (Your art skills are very good btw, I wish I had these skills to realize the concepts floating in my head)

[@Feokian]

One of the best SC videos I have seen in a while. Well done!

[@casius00]

Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Great Video.

[@SirFeatherfoot]

Thank you for your quality service Sir. Haven't seen this much thought and effort put into ship speculation before. Very happy to see this video come across my feed.

[@Citizen_of_the_Verse]

The second one is a Treaded support vehicle of some kind, absolutely love your work and dedication to your content 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@JohnVanderbeck]

That's what I've been saying. It very much looks like it has tracks, not wheels.

[@Regorlan]

fantastic run up, thank you for the overlays, so far the best provided video to date! Keep up the amazing work!

[@BenHannaNZ]

This is so cool so see the silhouettes come to life with a more detailed model! Thank you for this!

[@ekorrladerbollar8247]

Yes, indeed this was a really hq video. I really enjoyed!

[@foozoi1379]

This is amazing dude you have a real talent drawing out those ship pictures!

Very impressive and quality work. I enjoyed watching this and listening to your nicely balanced commentary. Thanks.

[@Phoenixstorm36]

Well done Sir, thank you for all the effort and thoughts that went into this giving us new ideas and clarification on others.

[@seeriktus]

Hands down the best analysis I've seen of this

[@padawan70000]

Nice job. I'm already eager for watching part 2.

[@Antares-A]

A skillfull analysis, theres always more room for this kind of perspective, especially vs all the wild theory crafting in SC, keep going.

[@Exambient]

Amazing work! Look forward to your future vids!

[@Bubblegum_Ronin]

Great work on this content, love the investigatory work you put into some of the speculation. Will be back for more when it comes 👍🏻

[@shoutingstone]

Only just stumbled across your channel but you put so much more effort in than the countless others that just ramble over some B-roll and call it a day. Have another sub

[@dtroit2]

Your models are sick. nice work.

[@-NateTheGreat]

Thanks for all the hard work and detail you put into this. A breath of fresh air verses other channels that just want to be the first to rush out low effort speculation videos!

[@Bronwyn031]

I just felt a thousand voices cry out all at once! Genesis, Crucible, Merchantman, Nautilus, Galaxy, and many more. Y'all are getting done dirty!

[@haynkokanut]

o7! This is the best silhouette video I've seen! Great job!

[@SolarWindsRider]

A really great video, not just talking, but actually showing the models.

[@BrenGunning]

Really well done video! Looks like lots of good work has gone into it!

[@TheRealTarz]

Great Work, it shows! I liked the analysis along with the Renders.

[@Knives_Ciao]

Your sketch and model for the guardian are awesome!

[@sumiral6438]

great work. i appreciate the effort you take to aligne the ships properly ^^

[@fillianplays]

Dude! Seriously well done! First review of these I’ve been genuinely impressed with.

[@aithemed]

First video I watched from you, you have talent. I will be checking out from now on.

[@jwonyoutube]

Now THIS is hi quality material I would follow, great job sharing your insights and reasoning, and avoiding typical drama/ragebaiting. Sub earned!

[@doge5401]

In regards to the Guardian: Iirc, citcon specifically mentioned the Guardian as locked in to be arriving at IAE. That and the Intrepid, with the Legionairre being the "odd man out" that won't make it for citcon. Also worth mentioning, the original Guardian concept had two humans outside the ship. The new one just has one. CIG sometimes uses the crew count, or what's around the crew, to signify use case and crew count, IE the medipin having a dude with a gourney outside. My theory is that the original pitch for the Guardian, assuming that the theory that it's a Vanguard competitor is true, is that the original concept had a pilot and a second crewmember (possibly a gunner, possibly an engineer), but they couldn't figure out how to get a turret to fit cleanly on the ship, and didn't want to risk an "Antares" incident for the second person again, making it a boring ship to multi-crew. So, reconcepting began. Imo, the new Guardian silhouette looks distinctly smaller than the old one, but that might just be my poor depth perception. The leaked metrics actually put it pretty close to the F8 instead of the VG in size, but also confirm it will have an interior of some type. The second crew member idea got dropped, making it a dedicated solo ship. And then the standard CIG concept manipulation came in, changing the smoothness of it (which I'm actually glad they did lol, love that more angular look) into what we saw now. I think it's extremely likely that silhouette is indeed the Guardian, if only just because of them confirming we're getting the Guardian at IAE.

[@TheApokolypze]

they said "before end of year" for Intrepid, Polaris, and Guardian. Intrepid and Polaris at IAE, Guardian could be at a later patch before EOY

[@Bleinz6360]

I think you might be right. The only thing that still makes me doubt is that if this is true, they put the guardian silhouette twice without ever revealing it and that would be very weird. The Intrepid has slightly changed too and neither it nor the Polaris are featured in the new silhouettes but are all set to release before the end of the year just like the guardian. In my opinion, it would be the wrong choice to be inconsistent and show 2 silhouettes of the Guardian just because it's changed in the background. And if they did show it twice, I would have at least done the exact same camera angle as the first picture to showcase the differences and draw a parallel. But I guess the only way to know for sure is to wait until the release of the Guardian.

[@ace_tristPWN]

@@doge5401 thank you for the detailed breakdown, that's what I think is most likely, too

[@imactuallyHimtho]

It can’t possibly be the guardian, as they confirmed it for IAE this year. Would make 0 sense to tease it again just 1 month before release

[@Bleinz6360]

@@imactuallyHimtho The only reason would be if they consider it necessary due to it having a redesign behind the scenes. But it would be very strange regardless.

[@S1L3NTSNA1L]

really surprised youtube recommended me this vid, awesome vid man

[@FoxReaper]

Woaw great work! Thanks a lot for this video man.

[@kaputzzTV]

Wow so many skills in one video.. this is great man!

[@jet_flyer]

I bet the Drake thing is a add-on to the command module to make it into a full stand alone ship. They said you'd be able to fly it around but it will be very short range and probably won't have a quantum drive

[@Crycane]

The Drake command module has a quantum drive (S1), it is specified in the ironclad data sheets. But i like the idea of a "module" to make the command module its own ship, kinda like the hyperdrive docking ring for the starfighters in star wars.

[@narosushi]

Ur channel is perfection mate! Well done! Really nice content

[@the_steamtrain1642]

Your skill with both 3d programs and drawing with your hands is commendable

[@alltimenative]

holy crap man yout art is insane, defo subscribing

[@atomicpsycho1589]

Great video! Your modeling skill is exceptional!

[@chilledteddy7819]

I really liked the effort you put into this!

[@d3v-x64]

wow. you amazed me with ur production quality

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

Very nice. I appreciate reasonable impressions. So many like to engage in fantastical speculation because they got too excited.

[@brudyhie5004]

can tell you put a lot of work into this thank you :)

[@e.walker]

Excellent work and brilliant breakdown!

[@addermoth]

What an amazing amount of work and thought, Gained a sub for your effort. Keep it up. Great video

[@obersttito3968]

CIG please hire this guy. He knows what he is doing :)

[@blue283privat3]

I came across this video and this channel by chance. I have rarely found a channel that puts so much effort into its theses. Great work. Keep it up. Btw, you could sell those drawings by hand. They look amazing!

[@donnytheflow]

2:00 the track wheels suggest military capability or at least some kind of rugged, all terrain approach. The shape language has me excited. Great video! Love the intention and execution

[@ZykaDeter]

Great video and nice job on putting those models to scale with the ones on the citcon video !

[@geekedstoner4209]

Love the content. My only thing we differ is about the Starlancer BLD and that not being the variant in the silhouette with ur reason being basebuilding not being to that level. That's all contradicted by the Poineer being up there. There would be no reason to build the Poineer if basebuilding wasn't coming or at least planned for that time frame. So it would make sense that the build would be that Starlancer BLD could be a possibility! Either way, I'm here for the ride! Love ur content bro, keep up the work man! It's impressive stuff

[@Billy-bc8pk]

They mentioned tier 0 basebuilding and monster hunting would be coming within the first few months of 2025 -- or whatever the late Q1/early Q2 patch is. Monster hunting tier 0 already works right now in the internal builds according to Zac, so they just need to get it tuned up some more for a first pass live release. No idea what's going to be required for tier 0 basebuilding, but basically it just needs a decent UI for RaStar, and some of the crafting mechanics. All of that is basic logistical meta data, attaching entities to blueprints (and since blueprints aren't physicalised, it makes it way easier to build out). But I'm curious how much of crafting will come with tier 0 basebuilding?

[@randlebrowne2048]

One argument for it not being the Max version is that it looks like front dorsal turret may be set higher than it is on the Max, giving it a more 360 degree field of fire. Of course, this could be due to perspective throwing things off.

[@ace_tristPWN]

@@geekedstoner4209 well they already said that the Pioneer won't come with Tier 0, just that stey start working on it this year. But still, only the Max has those headlights, not the BLD. As I said, I think this is a saveguard, they WANT to do the BLD next, but I case they don't finish in time, they can just say they delivered this one.

[@geekedstoner4209]

@ace_tristPWN not saying that couldn't be the case, jus didn't think it was because of the Pioneer! Def can go either way. either way I'm here for it. Not 1 that's gets too strict on these things but I do love to guess about what's coming when they put out teasers like this! Keep up the work bro!💪🏾

[@ace_tristPWN]

@geekedstoner4209 right! Thanks a lot!

[@Mullins23]

High quality content indeed. You and theangriestgamer are the only two I have seen 2d modeling and rendering ships on your own to improve video quality and he isn't making SC content atm.

[@TAW4SHI]

i was getting so upset at people just sucking the meatless bone, or proper say beating dead horse like in GTA community about all whats been shown, but this is actually the best anyone has ever done about this silhouettes reveal, tbh i wanted to do this but i never learned how to so this is amazing i f luv it m8, hope to see more quality content from you

[@Asaelus]

This was indeed insightful. Thank you!

[@lukescrapwalker]

I promisse this one has no information? xD Amazing video. Thank you.

[@ace_tristPWN]

New :D

[@MUCHouseherr]

for the second one: the form of it headlights lines up with all the Greycat models, from UTV to reworked PTV the SQ42 Hornet is the F7X (you can see the markings on the side in a couple of Frames) the flat one appears to be CNOU, if in doubt check the Pioneer reconcept landing legs. also the same diamond symbol is pretty much everywhere in CNOU

[@spider0804]

Hey for the one that you said might be a Intrepid stealth variant, I think people are looking at the shape completely wrong. The vehicle is pointed twords us and the two lights are the headlights. The cockpit window is inbetween the lights and the ship is roughly a rectangular shape with 4 sets of landing gear, the shadow to the right of the visible gear is the other landing pad. With the flat rear it either carries containers or is designed to fit some containers perfectly to the rear of the ship.

[@CitizenScott]

Fascinating. Really well done.

[@aguspuig6615]

You know the video is gonna be fire when you hear the german accent

[@ace_tristPWN]

Lol

[@geordietyne]

Really good quality video! Thank you!

[@dashbolt101s]

7:55 For some reason I get Consolidated Outlands vibes from this mystery silhouette. Reminds me of both the Nomad as well as the Pioneer in some ways. Maybe a medium-large sized CNOU ships somewhere along the lines of the C1 or the Zeus ?

[@ozramblue117]

Very talented stuff. Thank you!

[@Fellowsarragon]

N‘ice work, tolle Arbeit und coole Oberlegungen Thx

[@errgoth]

Don't mind me saying. Great work. Nice presentation.

[@caseysimpson525]

Very cool. Haven't seen anyone go to this much work to figure these out. Just a quick note on the "gaurdian" the old silhouette shows it hovering without landing gear and the newer silhouette it has landing gear. I think it's a completly different ship.

[@ripl0x]

The second vehicle is the Greycat CAV like you suspect. It's a tracked vehicle with, I believe, a missile rack with size 5 missiles and turret with 2 s1 laser repeaters. You can tell it's a Greycat by the lights. And yes, the salvage variant of the Prospector is the Fortune, as revealed by datamining. Great work on all of this and I love the overlays.

[@ace_tristPWN]

@@ripl0x I read that, too, but I could not find actuall leaks, just guesses. Is there more?

[@CathrineMacNiel]

why would Greycat build combat vehicles? It looks more like a Tumbril or even an Anvil.

[@DedLeader]

VERY interesting points here, great video!

[@gravy9280]

Thank you for the hard work.

[@showlight2429]

I’m so freaking excited for the Perseus 🤩

[@VercJames]

Bro! Awesome reference work

[@alexanderdooley5833]

Beautiful work.

[@tequila6955]

This was outstanding!

[@santtupiip]

7:26 I might be grasping at straws, but those little circular nubs (like the one circled at 7:38 in red) look similar to the maneuvering thrusters of the Gladius/Sabre and the rear main thrusters(?) has some similarity to Sabre/Harbringer engines. So my wildest guess is an Aegis ship medium fighter, as they already have a light fighter in the Gladius, heavy fighter in the Vanguards and a stealth fighter in the Sabre so they are only lacking a medium fighter.

[@Ruutzy]

I think the Atlas silhouette is the base builder parked at an angle such that the back end is angled directly away from us and thus blocked behind the front of the chassis

[@ace_tristPWN]

I should have thought of that after looking at it for literally hours, thank you!

[@sjoer]

@1:42 you can actually see this vehicle in the IAE flythrough on the left of the big RSI ship in the middle! To the right you can also glimpse the ship (@8:25) with the wings folded up...

[@sjoer]

And honestly, it might even be a Crusader ship that second one? At least the colors in the flythrough seem to indicate so!

[@knavishroot1238]

7:47 Their angle of models are consistent with placement, headlights are on the front 2x, one on each side. I think it might be almost flat in the front, but which manifacturer would make an almost rectangular ship?

[@ace_tristPWN]

I might have an idea

[@Jean-Janus-Papouin]

CNOU for the rectangular ship, but Anvil for the headlights

[@619eoghan]

2nd one could be an Ursa AA with its rocket pod retracted?

[@IronsideGER]

Danke für deine super Arbeit 👍

[@ace_tristPWN]

Sehr gerne o7

[@oliverquarmby1901]

"quickly made a model" ... goes on to make full 3D asset! Well done!

[@furyiv]

Great job with this mate, 8:16 reminds me so much of No Man's Sky, makes me think it's a science ship

[@lurakin88]

03:52 also on the panel that's folding down you can see text that is mirrored the wrong way

[@sierra_6276]

Awesome work, well done ! On the « Guardian » looking one, I think it looks more like another version, because of the guardian having no landing gear (c.f. The citcon 2023, all the other ships have landing gear except this one, and the fury don’t have any landing gear too) And also the arms on the guardian looks very straight with not a lot shapes as the one they showed looked more free form with those crab like claws. For the Misc fortune, I think it is the one that looks like the intrepid. I do not remember where I ve seen it but I saw a leak of it that was blurred and it was the shape of this one. Plus, it is rumored that the fortune is a between the vulture and reclaimer and from the side of it it could fit in that category compared to the prospector looking one. Also, it may just be back ground, but close to the nose of the intrepid looking, there seems to be a salvage arm. On the prospector looking one, I have no idea, but Argo seems quite odd, because their design is verse squary, and it’s quite strange that the front is such a bubble but the rear looks like an Argo. On a side note, I don’t see why they would re tease ships from last year, otherwise they would have also put the legionnaire has it has taken a bit more time to complete. So in the end, I don’t think it is either the guardian or intrepid or any of the last year teaser (not talking about years long concepts - pionneer, Perseus Apollo)

[@JohnVanderbeck]

On the terrapin the text is also mirrored on that panel below the screws. It looked like someone just mirrored a whole section and didn't clean it up. But this was just for a teaser, not the final model obviously.

[@ace_tristPWN]

Oh right! Yeah I hope that did not come over as too much criticism, this stuff happens and they usually deliver it incredibly clean, it's just fun to find these small overseights!

[@MichaelDBruce]

Amazing video. Of the three mystery silhouettes. 1. My friends have this as the intrepid 2. The misc fortune. It's a prospector sized salvage ship. Leaks have some details on features there. 3. The Drake ship is one of the concept designs for the Drake cutter. If you look at the jump point publication for that time period, this design is featured there

[@ace_tristPWN]

@@MichaelDBruce 3. Uhhh that is great information, thank you!

[@MichaelDBruce]

@@ace_tristPWN jump point Dec 2023

[@ace_tristPWN]

Oh wow, that is a gold mine, thank you so much!

[@Rantandreason]

The Fatterpillar and Angry Fatterpillar both cannot be flown without the command module, but it can still detach. You can use them like personal storage or command bases, especially in the case of the Angry Fatterpillar. You park it somewhere, and it's essentially an armoured and fully gunned command post. You can leave it there to do repairs on ground vehicles while using the command module to go do stuff if you need to.

[@starburger2099]

Excellent job done !

[@mickahpapp2208]

High quality is the way to go. I love in dept video's more then 10 minutes of algorithm pleasing garbage.

[@williamchen5249]

Great work, awesome details! May I ask where (or how) you get the 3D models?

[@tim-jim760]

Starjump Grim did a recent live on the starlancer on his YT where he shows how to extract the holoviewer models from the RSI ship matrix website

[@ace_tristPWN]

@@williamchen5249 Most are the holoviewer models you can find on the RSI Page, there are easy guides on how to save them. Some I built and some are ingame models.

[@_ATCH-ct8cp]

veryyyy informed its good to see someone get it right!!! :)

[@GuilhermeLPC]

1. New CSV is the FM from the basebuilding panels. 2. Greycat CAV's silhouette looks like a HEMTT truck. 3. New Atlas platform truck can be seen in the background of some of the new art from CitCon

[@ace_tristPWN]

@@GuilhermeLPC 3. Did not see that, thanks!

[@stannistargaryen]

The second vehicle (GreyCat Ursa looking vehicle) looks like it could have tracks instead of wheels especially with what looks to be a mud flap on the back. I also think (Atlas X) could be a refueling variant since I noticed they have added a refueling nozzle to the CSM which will be eventually added to all ground vehicles.

[@ericwollaston5654]

Starjump said so in his video

[@kaiberuss]

idk what that intrepid thing will be but i love how flat it looks reminds me of a manta ray or something

[@vanvino4074]

Awesome work!

[@SideQuestStories]

The chunky ground vehicle is definitely Greycat, with the outline-type headlamps. It has tracks but no track guards implying that its role is all-terrain but not combat-focused. However it has dual Bulldogs on top so can still pack a punch. Ursa-like is definitely a good call. The windshield bars kinda remind me of anti-riot vehicles. The angled panel at the back is human-sized so could be a suit locker or even a detainment pod.

[@thaeule602]

For the Atlas X variant thingy vehicle. Have you thought about an Medical version? we got a troop transport, Missle and aa turret version. The atlas could resemble the GTK Boxer from Germany with its Ambulance module on top of it.

[@ace_tristPWN]

Interesting thought!

[@Caennuck]

I think that is the BLD. They said this year that these are ships in or entering production over this year - not necessarily coming out in 12 months.

[@MisterFoxton]

Yesterday's monthly report stated that the vehicle art team is currently working on the Starlancer MAX. Its still in production.