Fabulous Havoc X2 Dual Motor eBike

To learn more about the Fabulous Havoc X2 please visit www.fab-usa.com (USA Customers)
The Havoc X2 is a Folding frame ebike with 20x4in fat tires. Additional features include: Hydraulic Brakes, Dual Air Shock Suspension, Mag Wheels, 60v 20ah Battery Pack, Dual 750w Geared Hub Motors, Headlight, Tail Light, Brake Light, & Turn Signals, and Rear Rack & Fenders included. If you are looking for some serious acceleration and hill climbing power then look no further than Havoc.
Thank you to Fabulous Ebikes for providing the Havoc X2 for testing. To see their complete line up of ebikes check out www.fabulousebikes.com.
Ride Safe
~Citizen
Timecodes:
0:00 - Intro
0:25 - Frames & Options
1:06 - 60second Specs
2:00 - Front motor Torque
2:30 - Wheels, Forks & Brakes
4:00 - Folding Frame
4:32 - Ride positioning & Seat Height
6:05 - Battery Pack, Rear Rack, Lighting
7:52 - Handlebar Controls
9:24 - AWD function
11:09 - Hill Climb Test
12:53 - AWD on the fly
14:17 - 0 to 20mph
14:57 - Rear Wheel Power
15:41 - Suspension test
16:12 - Step Hill Climb
18:38 - Wrap up

[@khanrides]

This bike doesn’t look like a 30mph + 100nm torque beast to the avg joe. It’s good for cities where e-bikes have too many restrictions, this is one of the most unassuming emopeds I’ve ever seen!

[@middleburyastrology]

Dual suspension with a 60volt 20ah battery...and foldable...add a crate in the back and your set :) Really great features in a deepening ebike market.

[@larrybowers64]

I really love all the features of this bike, nothing is missing. I currently own a 2021 FABulous EMX Xtreme dual 750's. A great bike from a great business. I live on the west coast a long way from Montreal, but Lampro, the owner of FABulous Ebikes makes me feel like the customer next door! I always receive prompt expert service and parts delivery and answers to any inquiries. Besides a great selection of ebikes, FABulous offers the only other main feature any ebike business has to offer, great customer service, that really sets them apart from the competition.

[@buffalomind6838]

Fabulous taking the award for the only ebike to do what others couldn’t. The 60V may very well be the reason, and or it’s pushing 1500+ watts with each motor. I can only imagine what a 1000 watt motor pushing 2000+ would do along with 72+V.

[@buffalomind6838]

Dual 1000 watt motors mind you as I know there is the Wicked. Why aren’t there 90V’s readily available? That would be awesome if a company out there can take the lead, and provide true competition for ICE bikes.

[@Busdathead]

As always love every one of your reviews they are very thorough !!!

[@CitizenCycle925]

I appreciate that!

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

You did well on the video 😎 That's some tough, steep, grassy hill test area. Nice.

[@JCIIIBULLET]

Patiently waiting for a drag race between the citizen bike and this fabulous havoc bike 🙂

[@danimayb]

Absolutely! It'll be no contest though, The citizen bike has dual 40 amp controllers and I think he even had one shunt modded lol

[@CitizenCycle925]

I'm sure that will eventually happen but I'm 99.9% sure citizen bike would crush it easily.

[@RidingDirtyAdventures]

wow very sharp looking power house of an ebike... love the new look

[@EbikeReviews]

That bike is crazy fast. Like it.

[@Dlo_BestLife]

My fav EBike KZbinr

[@CitizenCycle925]

Thank you!

[@jh338117]

Citizen,your causing Havoc down in NC. Awesome review 👍👍

[@tohterence6455]

Any bike with 2 motors will be a beast

[@KF1]

It's cool you get to test so many ebikes. The Kenda Krusades are nice tires. I have them in 26"x4" and they're a nice all-rounder for both paved and gravel trails.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes, they're one of the better tires. Good grip, and they're not super loud on pavement.

[@fabulousebikes1110]

60v Havoc X2 has on/off indicator button for dual motors. We caught it late but we did change it on the 60v. 34mph top speed...for now.

[@E-BikingAdventures]

BTW, I'm loving my Trail Step Elite. Perfect bike for food delivery. I'll be writing a review soon.

[@jimmyjames8736]

Your bike handled a lot of shipping abuse and everything still functions so congratulations on durability. The part that surprises me the most though is the performance you have achieved with mag wheels. They usually don't seem to perform as well as the spoked motors but you guys have lots of torque available even just using the rear motor.

[@rossmacintosh5652]

@@E-BikingAdventures I love my EMX Xtreme with dual 500w motors and 48v 30Ah (1,440Wh) battery. I also appreciate that Fabulous eBikes have been great to deal with, and appreciate that they price their bikes fairly. They really do put the effort in to having the various components work well together and not just be features on a sales brochure.

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

I'm thinking of getting this bike to compliment my others.. I need a folding bike to not have to use a big rack and go to bike club meet ups farther from our area. I wish you could work with a lending company so we could make monthly payments like I see other companies have. Affirm I think is one lender for E Bike purchases. Good stuff guys !

[@VegasMadMikey]

Do you sell accessories? I can only find a “Coming Soon” button.

[@jahbrake9791]

Pretty cool bike

[@danielbossis2939]

very very good review !!! PRO !!! thankssss

[@goldbearbunny4787]

Yes they need a light up button for sure lol it's easy to lose track of in and out but I listen for the noise of motor as well

[@goldbearbunny4787]

Just got mine yesterday well the 48 volt version still trying it out

[@SMG-lz1zq]

This thing is a little beast! Grrrr...

[@mickster1780]

lot of things to like about this bike. really quick off the line and a hill climbing beast. but... i really don't care for the frame design with that curve in it. looks a little weird. and while it's nice to be able to pull out the battery easily, it's not aesthetically pleasing. and yeah i agree with you on the folding feature. kind of pointless with a 92 lb bike. good review!

[@wctyre49]

Great review,I'm not a fan of the 20 in.bikes but that was an impressive performance

[@Seafariireland]

Fabulous “Fabulous” !!!

[@joelresto.juuntitledgtuu4i435]

One battery isn't enough for a dual motor ebike. It needs to have a 2nd battery. It's cool to see 60v batteries on 750w motors. I wanted to do a 60v conversion on my grizzly.

[@jonradliff2103]

Dear "President" Citizen! Ha Ha! AWESOME REVIEW! Exactly what I was looking for. I emailed you earlier and asked a few specific questions that I had hoped you would address on this particular bike. I never heard back ( which I totally understand. You're busy. ), but you addressed all the questions I had. THANK YOU! THANK YOU! Your reviews are so in depth and your explanations are so clear. I was one that wondered about shifting the turbo button "on the fly". WONDERFUL EXAMPLE! Perhaps a suggestion to know if the "turbo" button is "On or Off"........ Have a little green or red light show up on the digital display. Sounds simple... I am probably going to buy this one when they open them to the United States thanks to you. I had never heard of this manufacturer, but thanks to you I've found something that seems like it will fit me. ( Old Motorcycle rider that wants "speed" if I want it and to be able to climb a hill if I need it. ). Thank you again!

[@CitizenCycle925]

Hi Jon, So sorry yes I am extremely behind on my email, Glad I covered most of your questions though.🙂 Fabulous makes some pretty nice and powerful bikes!

[@boostercontrol100]

Awesome they getting it rite knows what people want!! 👍👍

[@darylogle6696]

That white wall zigzag would look nice on it

[@michaelbedard7859]

Love the joy🎉😂🎉

[@leeolson9103]

I would LOVE to see a comparsion between the Wired Freedom and new Havoc X2 (the two bikes I'm considering buying this fall). Thanks. : )

[@MikeBoire]

Love your reviews. Im thinking of getting the eahora juliet 60 ah 1000 watt bike for my wife and I. Would love to see you do a full review on these. There doesnt seem to be any good reviews available to watch on you tube. Just delivery guys showing range tests.

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

They did a great job with this bike. I wonder why it looks exactly like the Amp Rides Volt bike? 😁

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

I didn't know this came in 60V.. Dual suspension.. This has to be one of the best all around bikes made today. More torque than Bafangs big mid drive.

[@johngarcia8266]

HOW TO BUY ONE WHERE?

[@johngarcia8266]

WHERE to buy the 60 volt dual motors?

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

@@johngarcia8266 fabulous USA website

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

I hope you get one of these bikes soon and get to test the speed Vs the Road Warrior and Wired bikes.. Also a hill test vs the Wired Freedom..👍😎

[@CitizenCycle925]

Havoc is way faster off the line than Wired and Road Warrior, have a video out on this called "ebike acceleration challenge"

[@TheTcat1000]

Drag race your citizen bike!

[@josephboscolovich6554]

Well citizen looks like you found the bike to match the citizen cycle

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Hopefully you get a production dual suspension like this. instead of the step through.

[@robl1821]

Hi, nice bike, if you put panniers or saddle bags on the back will you heel hit the bag?

[@ActivityPhoto]

Brian, how does the torque sensor work? Any idea what the controller specs are?

[@a.a.alexander6030]

It's quick and capable climbing hills due to the smaller wheel diameter..

[@LectricGo]

Seems like it would be more useful if you could set the front motor to a lower power mode to reduce wheel slip.

[@Trillville43]

Or maybe you could slightly twist the throttle so it won't do that. It seems like the Ariel Rider grizzly where people either want to burnout or just want the quickest acceleration but I've never seen anyone not full turn the throttle.

[@mrpeegeepee2682]

Your hill climb is achieved because of the smaller diameter wheels....it adds torque to a hub motor....Have you ever tried any other small wheel, 750 hub motored bikes?

[@CitizenCycle925]

Yes I've tried a ton of 20in wheel bikes and yes the smaller wheels seem to have slightly better torque. The hill climb power on this bike was due to the dual motors, 2 motors pulling you up the hill makes a huge difference!

[@bfelder2751]

Thank you for the review and all of the info. Do you know if I can use a steady rack on the HavocX2 with the way the front fender is set up?

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Question is.. Are there any faster or more powerful folding E Bikes made with dual motors and dual suspension ?

[@pascalj4331]

Front spinout is a problem. Dual ebikes should set up lower torque, higher RPM front motor. Still high total torque. Faster top speed.

[@nynut518]

i have a dumb ? you can use a plug kit on motorcycles with solid rims tubeless ... does this concept work for ebikes / do they make tubeless tires you can plug with a car plug kit ?

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

I'm wondering how high a cloud 9 on a good suspension post is going to get that seat up to? 39 plus?

[@sbukosky]

I like it. I'm not a fan of the look of mopeds, as much as I'd like a Grizzly. But that headlight. Same as on the Lectric which can't take the rough pavement?

[@mikeg6162]

Hey Citizen, i’ve been trying to message you about the wired freedom bike and ask how is the pedaling on that bike because the company tells me that you can pedal that bike up to 25 to 30 mph without ghost pedaling is this true before I spend 2K on this bike?

[@ufanisoneetze]

I wonder which is faster and which has more range, this one or the 1500w amp rides! Both are my dream bikes!! Also, comparing them to the ariel grizzly would be epic

[@blacsheep19]

Wow I remember when you had 1k followers I haven't been here since you finished your custom radrover...that was Soo dope to watch...what's happened to that bike?

[@williamliu8440]

Hi, this bike is really awesome!! What's the top speed of using both motor and using rear motor only? Any difference? I am considering a AWD after seeing this.

[@DanielLopes-jt8yl]

Way of the future with choices and variations; single motors, duel motors and sizes with color choices etc. Government will be offering tax incentive to buy ebikes. All this is good for those of us who enjoy getting around on them.

[@paulcoinc]

Oh golly gee, if you actually turn the front motor on after you are rolling, you don't get spin. You make some really entertaining videos. You were one of if not the first ebike channels I subscribed to, but I do wish you did a few things differently. That being said, it's your channel, so you do you. On the bike itself, the bike seems great. I'd say the lights are the weak point, both the front and back. My opinion is that if you can't see the headlight during the day at all, I don't think it would be great at night. The taillight I think is way too small. Seems they want to rely on the reflector to be seen. This isn't a production bike, so that could be fixed. Something that I haven't seen in any major brand that my bike has and I think is a good idea is an audible alert for both the turn signals and breaks. It gives cars a bit extra notice of what you are doing. That's not a knock on anyone, as I know many riders would turn it off anyway.

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

100 Nm of torque didn't hurt in rear wheel on the hill. 60V helps

[@welchfairiii2834]

Good video as usual brother! I didn't hear you mention the controller. Does it have 2 controllers for both motors? How many amps is the controller? Thanks!

[@CitizenCycle925]

Just one controller and I believe it's 22 amps.

[@fabulousebikes1110]

@@CitizenCycle925 2 controllers 22amp each. but slightly tweaked.

[@conradricchard8469]

You ahould try to get the aehora juliet,if it can be posible

[@SH-di8im]

Wow

[@timothypope5300]

When is the road warrior x2 review? Would like to see this havoc x2 vs your citizen?

[@stevewalters8809]

I need a,Monster to pull the pass with cart in tow

[@stevewalters8809]

Will it take the wired

[@pixel-ink]

What's the slope on the first long hill? And what is the slope rating on this e-bike. Their website doesn't specify it from what I can see.

[@diverm2371]

Great video thanks. How does this work if USA and Canada have the 500W limit?

[@sambryant2150]

It is illegal

[@ROWCO147]

Whats the range maxed out throttle only?

[@josett7759]

Top speed

[@VegasMadMikey]

Why can’t I find any videos on the Havoc 2 unboxing and setup? Do they come fully assembled? I also never see anyone showing how they fold?

[@CitizenCycle925]

They're pretty much fully assembled when you receive them you just have to unfold them.

[@VegasMadMikey]

@@CitizenCycle925 Nice! I’m really interested in this bike! Thanks! Also I can never find accessories for them. You have a link? Thanks!!!

[@Busdathead]

Love all the accessories and power but just hate the look , it's just ugly to me that's why I bought the Wired Cruiser .

[@ManchurianCounterweight]

hey - web site says 48 volts for this bike....maybe they just changed it and haven't updated the site yet? They do have some 60 volt fat tires.

[@CitizenCycle925]

The 60v are on preorder and you'll have to go to the fab-usa website.

[@ManchurianCounterweight]

@@CitizenCycle925 thanks

[@andyjame5150]

We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. kzbin.infoUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!

[@Greg-me8le]

the reason folding bikes make no sense for you is because you have a pick up truck. They are handy for people with SUV or smaller.

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

I don't want to ever use a rack or buy a truck or van for just a bike.

[@PaulGhenis]

Please show bike-folding. APARTMENT dwellers need folding bikes! Minimize footprint at home, in elevator, at your destination cubicle or friend's place. Loading into a vehicle is a nice option too.

[@78sound]

I have 2 fold up bikes, a heybike mars and a lectric both fit in my Volvo S70 trunk but only one bike per trunk fit, but each fit... they are kinda awkward folding up. What makes sense for me is when the old Volvo needs service, I take a bike , and drop off the car... and then pick it up the same way.

[@CloverMind]

​@@PaulGhenisIt's not just about folding, I think these ebikes need to be able to pushed/pulled on wheels (once folded), and I would like to see that as well. I would like to see these ebikes folded and pulled/pushed up a ramp to go to public transit platform or elevator level.

[@josephboscolovich6554]

Are you getting a lot of your test bikes from what's his name Bolton

[@user-cq1lz7qr3e]

What is the price for this ebike

[@raypabs5374]

I think k that I would still go with the AR Grizzly awd. This Havoc Xe does not look as durable.

[@stevewalters8809]

Looked like the wired has more performance Bet it beats the price

[@E-BikingAdventures]

That's a little overkill for me, but I guess if you're a wild and crazy guy, you might want it.

[@LexyTheEbikeQueen]

Hey i live inn Kernersville North Carolina Is There A Way I Can Pay U To Put Me A Front Hub System On My Ebike Like U Got Ur Citizens Bike

[@darylogle6696]

56t chainring 11to 36 cassette 7 speed

[@Juice421fs]

Did I miss it? What is unlocked top speed?

[@CitizenCycle925]

This prototype had the controller locked down at 26mph. But fabulous tells me the production models go 34mph

[@bassw1758]

Not sold on dual motors, front dropouts were never designed to pull the entire weight of the bike plus the rider. If you really need to go that fast just get a 3000 or 5000 watt direct drive with a 72 volt system.

[@rossmacintosh5652]

I have the same forks on my dual motor e-bike from Fabulous E-Bikes. They are designed for use with a front motor so its quite different from when someone adds a second motor to a regular rear-motor e-bike equipped with forks not designed for the torque a front motor adds. For me the second motor isn't about speed so much. I do enjoy the acceleration boost but also the improved hill climbing.

[@bassw1758]

@@rossmacintosh5652 that's a nice bike, who makes the forks? I've heard RST forks can handle a motor. I've seen some on Amazon for 130ish but I don't know if those are the ones.

[@rossmacintosh5652]

@@bassw1758 I'm thinking RST is the manufacturer of the forks & model is "Guide" but it's hard to be sure. I know RST market some forks as "e-bike ready" which suggests those have the heaver lugs. They don't use a torque arm but use heavy washers with tabs that fix the axle in the lugs, resisting torque forces from turning the axle. They can't be used with quick-release axles. The torque-resisting washers with tabs is very similar to what most e-bike manufacturers use on rear motor axles. (I think the washers on a Fabulous E-bike are the same front and rear). They seem to work fine for the 500w and 750w motors but I'd be less confident if used with much bigger motors. With a bigger motor a torque arm might be necessary.

[@kathrynleaser5093]

What kind of price range for the 3k to 5k bikes. Thanks

[@Bobster986]

It’s 90 lbs without the battery installed? 😮 p.s.: It technical didn’t make it up that hill, it literally made it up that hill. 😀

[@mad151maxx4]

Hey citizen, another great video. How come you never do a review on the ecells 1500awd super monarch. I had a chance to finally ride one, it will beat ALL 750WATT AWD BIKES AND MOST 1000WATT. IMIGINE IF THEY HAD 60VOLT. Ecells will beat the citizen bike.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Unfortunately I don't know anyone close by with an ecells bike and it's far too expensive for me to buy one Especially when I have what I think is a better version in my garage already with the citizen bike.

[@mad151maxx4]

@@CitizenCycle925 well said.

[@LexyTheEbikeQueen]

Do this company let u keep the bike ⁉️

[@ABSama]

I dont like how it dosent say the speed on their website

[@johnhigh2348]

Should I put Front wheel motor on the back rear wheel I am serious

[@CitizenCycle925]

I guess i'm not sure what you mean exactly

[@johnhigh2348]

@@CitizenCycle925 i got front wheel motor can I put this on the back of bicycle wheel. Switch it

[@CitizenCycle925]

​@John High if the dropout spacing is the same then yes

[@johnhigh2348]

@@CitizenCycle925 okay thank you

[@davidcrowson4745]

The blemishes don't really show up on the video

[@joshpointoh]

This or the Wired Freedom?

[@CitizenCycle925]

i guess it depends what you are looking for. Fabulous is probably stronger on hills and definitely faster off the line. Wired has way more top end speed, is lighter weight, lower seat height, and is way cheaper..

[@garangeradventures6255]

So are these bikes made in China and sold in Canada or are they actually made in Canada ?

[@logitech12345678910]

Everything is always made in China.

[@larrybowers64]

Made in China

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Lol.. Speed racer button turbo booster..😂

[@ilogicg]

cant wait til you get your hands on a 72 volt🤣

[@RugersLastResort]

I ride a VSETT 10+ scooter. Looking for an ebike; but find 95% of the market offerings underwhelming at best. The world needs faster ebikes, this looks promising....Hint: UNLOCK RUGER

[@johntorre1213]

That battery is an eye sore.

[@josephboscolovich6554]

You're not getting a full stretch of your legs on that bike

[@soxcoco7860]

Um u should stop recommending a brand the attaches it’s social media links to other companies. That’s very suspicious

[@ryanreeves70]

Another free ebike for paid advertising

[@JCIIIBULLET]

Somebody's jealous 🐸 jajajajajaaa

[@CitizenCycle925]

Actually it gets shipped back 🙂

[@rays3995]

I just bought a 2000w dual electric bike 26 inch