AWD Conversion Kit: Should I build Them?

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CitizenCycle

CitizenCycle

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@TheTcat1000
@TheTcat1000 7 ай бұрын
I got to say a lot of guys are out there, throwing giant batteries, super high-powered motors, but yours seems to be the most functional, the cleanest in the safest job. Well done.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
thank you for that!
@jasonmanitsas2770
@jasonmanitsas2770 6 ай бұрын
Yes as soon as i get the 2024 wired freedom. Will it come with the correct forks on the stock wired Freedom?
@quantumfx2677
@quantumfx2677 6 ай бұрын
​@@jasonmanitsas2770No, You are getting a better bike and cheaper with the new E cells. I would research before getting the Wired. Especially now they can't provide proof of them being UL certified.
@quantumfx2677
@quantumfx2677 6 ай бұрын
​@@jasonmanitsas2770I would check out the new release of the E-Cells release before getting a Wired. They did so many improvements over wired and it's cheaper, service is excellent. Even there paint job! They even water proofed the controller! Wired is now having problems providing the proof they are UL certified and it's not going to well for them. Honesty has to be number 1 when you are doing business with people! It will make you or break you. Always research a bit so you can make the best decision for yourself.
@quantumfx2677
@quantumfx2677 6 ай бұрын
​​​@@jasonmanitsas2770 I would check out the new E-Cells release before getting a Wired. They did so many improvements over wired and it's cheaper, service is excellent. Even there paint job! They even water proofed the controller! Wired is now having problems providing the proof they are UL certified and it's not going to well for them. Honesty has to be number 1 when you are doing business with people! It will make you or break you. Always research a bit so you can make the best decision for yourself.
@djcharlie163
@djcharlie163 7 ай бұрын
i have been talking about that upgrade for over a year, YES I WANT ONE i would purchase one!!!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
hahaha okay, thank you for responding. if the interest is there, i will put up a site to take pre-orders very soon
@anthonysuarez7416
@anthonysuarez7416 7 ай бұрын
Good video. Awesome build. I rode a friend's Wired Freedom last week and decided if cops start caring about my super fast ebikes in Vegas or San Francisco, I am totally getting one. It's a big time sleeper bike & an AWD kit like yours would be the 2nd upgrade I do (after a tire upgrade).
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
thanks for the comment!
@TonyC-s3g
@TonyC-s3g 7 ай бұрын
Yes I would love one I would buy it right away so please make a kit
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Okay thank you for responding!!
@wendypiluk7210
@wendypiluk7210 7 ай бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 would like his phone number to call him do you know it
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@garybourke468
@garybourke468 7 ай бұрын
Definitely ! Set up a kit & sell them to us. Regular viewer. Thanks.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Okay, thanks for the input. Getting a read on the interest and may set up a site to take pre-orders soon :)
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Hi Gary, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@IMBruceECLECTIC
@IMBruceECLECTIC 7 ай бұрын
That is outstanding! Kit....Great idea...Great concept.....I think you will a lot of people who would do this....
@leeconnerlconner4008
@leeconnerlconner4008 7 ай бұрын
I’m interested too. Especially if you can keep it around $800
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
okay, thank you for your response, will keep it as low as possible.
@frankroach9346
@frankroach9346 7 ай бұрын
I built my first dual monitor in 2019 during the pandemic 1000 watt motor and a 1500 watt motor for the rear but I didn’t have the display I had a Violimart throttle I like your build it looks clean 👍
@billylehoux2743
@billylehoux2743 4 ай бұрын
The only thing I can say is... INCREDIBLE !!!
@leonardomohammed5318
@leonardomohammed5318 7 ай бұрын
I have been screaming "Yes" at my screen for a while now dude yesssssss
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
hahaha okay okay, if the interest is there i will put up a site for pre-orders
@leonardomohammed5318
@leonardomohammed5318 7 ай бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 initially I have been debating between 3 bikes I live and work in rural areas doing medical aid across my country Been looking at the Fabulous Shadow Step, Wired Freedom 2024 and the Wallkie H9 the Wallkie H9 shows the most hill clming ease till this wired freedom mod now I am back to being unsure which bike to go with
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Hey Leonard, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@JoshKey-l8v
@JoshKey-l8v 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely put a kit together like that it’s already in outstanding Bike and now you just made it 10 times better please put that kit together I’ll purchase one guaranteed
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
okay great to hear! thanks!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
HI Josh, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@stevekendall3237
@stevekendall3237 7 ай бұрын
I have a 24 wired cruiser and I would definitely be interested in an all in one box, plug and play kit at the mentioned price point (or less) for sure!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
great to hear thank you!
@blackstoneriverworkshop7167
@blackstoneriverworkshop7167 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, I might well buy a cruiser for this kit if applicable
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@donwilliams815
@donwilliams815 6 ай бұрын
Yes - definitely interested. Will keep an eye on your videos to hear more.
@edwardharpe4975
@edwardharpe4975 7 ай бұрын
Do the KIT!!! With or without battery is a great option! Can’t wait to see happen!! Power to ya!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
thank you for the comment and vote of confidence!
@BKJr1225
@BKJr1225 7 ай бұрын
I'd love to buy a kit from you! Your work is awesome!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
awesome, than you for the feedback. interest has been good, this may just happen!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
HI Bryan, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@stevebickett7614
@stevebickett7614 7 ай бұрын
Sounds like a good solution to range anxiety and for the big hills we have out west, looking to order a wired freedom in the next few months Perfect Timing for the kit!
@AndrewCarpenter-qz1wz
@AndrewCarpenter-qz1wz 4 ай бұрын
My bike will be here in 2 weeks. Already want to add the front motor upgrade. Great job.
@D-LectricRider
@D-LectricRider 7 ай бұрын
You should definitely sell these kits. You can put me down for one. Maybe adding a little black box to cover the controller would be nice.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
thanks for the input, i will have to look into controller boxes..
@Campfussell
@Campfussell 7 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the head to head with the Citizen bike!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
will be a close one!
@alphonsotate2982
@alphonsotate2982 7 ай бұрын
Nice clean build like my all wheel drive Ariel Rider X
@HoosierDeddy_E-biker
@HoosierDeddy_E-biker 5 ай бұрын
I'm TOTALLY down with that! I'd like to upgrade my Aventure.2!!!
@maxpeters6090
@maxpeters6090 2 ай бұрын
Definitely interested in that kit!!
@stevenpierce8401
@stevenpierce8401 7 ай бұрын
I’ve got a 2024 Wired Freedom.I’m in. You build it - I’ll buy it.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
fantastic! thank you for the vote!!
@georgecypher4568
@georgecypher4568 7 ай бұрын
I want the recipe ...I have the bike that would be perfect for this ..... Lemme know how when and where ..... I really hope you do decide on doing this cause for us people who do not have the time to research all the needed goodies for adding a additional motor up front . I am so glad that you went the route of plug and play and make it easier for alot of people who are not too mechanically inclined ...... It is also alot cleaner when it is done right , just the way you did this one .......
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Excellent to hear, thanks for the feedback, seems to be quite a bit of interest in this, probably move forward. :)
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Hi George, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@amaze2708
@amaze2708 6 ай бұрын
I just ordered a wired freedom. It’ll be my first e-bike. I cannot wait. It says late may delivery, hoping that’s just a tell-em-late-surprise-them-early date. Either way I already know I want this upgrade. Awesome build, love the thoughtful design choices.
@andreylim9024
@andreylim9024 7 ай бұрын
I’d buy one and I have 3 friends that would buy this kit!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Wow, okay, thank you. I'm trying to get a read on the potential demand. if the interest is there, i will set up a site to take pre-orders soon.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Hi Andreylim, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@HaydenAlerte
@HaydenAlerte 7 ай бұрын
I’d buy the WIRED Freedom (and sell my other e-bike) if you offered this kit. Wouldn’t even think twice. The Wired Freedom is the ultimate sleeper e-bike… and with your kit, I’ll be grinning under my helmet as I pass up all the mopeds (like I do on my Motorcycle(s). Do it! Give the people what they want. ✌️😎
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@VMH721
@VMH721 7 ай бұрын
Good Morning, I Knew If anyone can accomplish this task It's You, Wow, When I get My Bike, I'm Coming to YOU FROM New York City... Congratulations 🎉👏
@luigiprovencher
@luigiprovencher 19 күн бұрын
I want one but I wish that it matched the power of the rear wheel hub motor so that I could just use one of the two batteries that comes with the 2024 Cruiser.
@IMBruceECLECTIC
@IMBruceECLECTIC 7 ай бұрын
Outstanding build...outstanding video!!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
thank you!
@mickster1780
@mickster1780 7 ай бұрын
awesome! you've built quite the funmobile 😎
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
oh yes, very fun!
@blackstoneriverworkshop7167
@blackstoneriverworkshop7167 7 ай бұрын
I wanted to do something like this with my Vtuvia Antelope- turns out it was possible but it would be about 6 months of learning and execution, good job. Lacing the motor into the rim was where I checked out of my project- It's great you routed around that task
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
exactly, i wanted to make it plug and play easy for folks just like you!! (and me)
@blackstoneriverworkshop7167
@blackstoneriverworkshop7167 7 ай бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 Have you tested the rough range of your kit? Like how many miles can you ride on fairly level ground
@moonshotsilver
@moonshotsilver 7 ай бұрын
Fantastic job. I'm in the UK so unfortunately can't get the Wired Freedom. If i was over your way I definitely would be preording this set up.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
thanks for the response, sorry that things are little more strict across the pond..
@rochekml
@rochekml 7 ай бұрын
​@@CitizenCycle925We are so screwed in Europe 😢
@kenk1959
@kenk1959 7 ай бұрын
Would definately be interested. Please do it👍
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
okay thanks for the feedback!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@kenk1959
@kenk1959 7 ай бұрын
Just ordered an E-Cells five star. Should have it by the end of April. Will definately be ordering a kit over the summer.
@JJ-tf2qs
@JJ-tf2qs 7 ай бұрын
I'm interested in the AWD kit as well. Hopefully we can make this happen 👍
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@ggebhard1
@ggebhard1 7 ай бұрын
I wish I were young again! Great job, Citizen! I’m really impressed!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@EBikeBuilder_
@EBikeBuilder_ 7 ай бұрын
I blew out a steel fork with a geared hub! ⚠️ The RST guide is still working for me 👍
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
interesting... that is surprising
@WyomingRider
@WyomingRider 7 ай бұрын
I think it's a great idea! I think people would buy it!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
thank you for the input! :)
@billporter1137
@billporter1137 6 ай бұрын
Well done brother!!! I love how it is plug and play!! I will definitely be ordering one!💪🏼
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic!
@daveyJ213
@daveyJ213 6 ай бұрын
Wow! Nice job; very interesting. I am going to order my Wired soon. A motor up front would only add to the fun. I can see purchasing your kit to add more power for pulling a camping trailer. That would be awesome. I would definitely consider purchasing one of your kits.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 6 ай бұрын
awesome thanks!
@skylerw9817
@skylerw9817 7 ай бұрын
Definitely would buy one, for sure!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
awesome!! thank you for the feedback, it's looking more and more likely i will do this!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
HI Skyler, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@russworld5
@russworld5 7 ай бұрын
Do it. Some peeps will buy just for the extra range 👍.
@jimmyjames8736
@jimmyjames8736 7 ай бұрын
Yes, I think you should make this available Citizen. I don't personally need one, but it seems like a good niche of the market to fill since you have already researched the component sourcing and wiring harness. Plenty of Kepler riders would probably like this kit also. But I wouldn't do it without first checking with a lawyer and creating a sales agreement that protects you from liability and especially emphasizes that the kit may only be used with an RST Guide fork.
@user-jwpkh1914
@user-jwpkh1914 7 ай бұрын
I'm in! I 'm definitely interested in this Front wheel Kit
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@DanielWhite-c9g
@DanielWhite-c9g 7 ай бұрын
yes please put AWD conversion kit together ill buy one for sure I think it will be great 1000 watt would even be goooder. Thank you for your show I dig it.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
thank you for the input, i am moving it forward :)
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@Dave-dr4yy
@Dave-dr4yy 4 ай бұрын
Interested I just ordered the bike but I like this.
@Aerial-Adventures727
@Aerial-Adventures727 7 ай бұрын
Yes. Very interested! I have a 2023 Freedom. I assume I will need to change out my front fork? I’ve been wanting to do this for a while now.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
yes, you probably have a Mozo fork, would need to change it to RST Guide and those are $200
@Aerial-Adventures727
@Aerial-Adventures727 7 ай бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 thank you! I will definitely do the upgrade for the front motor then. Keep us posted. Great job on everything you do. Much appreciated!!
@stevegriffith7236
@stevegriffith7236 5 ай бұрын
The rst guide forks come stock with the 2024 correct?
@braven112
@braven112 7 ай бұрын
I'd love to buy one of these kits
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
fantastic! thanks for responding, seems to be some good interest in this..
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Hi Braven, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@bradarmstrong1656
@bradarmstrong1656 7 ай бұрын
I will buy your kit. As is. But I would also pay more for higher voltage controller and battery. Smooth quiet street tire mounted on the front wheel would be a bonus that I would be glad to pay for (including more $ for the best puncture protection). Forks are expensive, but a good twenty millimeter through axle strong front fork would be great. Steering damper? I will buy as-is, but I would also purchase your higher end kit.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Okay, thank you for this input!! appreciate you!
@jeremyporter1991
@jeremyporter1991 7 ай бұрын
I really like this set up. Well thought out.👍
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, its not for everyone but i think it works well.
@justbnld
@justbnld 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate all the videos, bike tests and most of all the modifications! I have an Ariel Rider Kepler and would love one of your kits. Let your Citizens know the details on the pricing and timing of availability. I want one
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Okay, will keep you posted!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@donvee2000
@donvee2000 7 ай бұрын
I believe the wired rear motor is 1500w...so it would probably be a difficult endeavor connecting the front 750w and rear 1500w motors to a single throttle. They need different signals to balance out the power. I have an AWD Grizzly.... But the motors are the same power so you can just combine the throttle signals from the controllers to one throttle. But having an AWD bike is definitely good for alot of situations.. and its probably saved my but from wiping out several times. Especially on turns when the rear tire wants to kick out but the front pulls it out of it. I just ordered the new Lyric Graffiti X but im definitely gonna keep my Grizzly for poor weather. Snow and wet roads are much better suited to an AWD bike.
@DanielLopes-jt8yl
@DanielLopes-jt8yl 7 ай бұрын
Definitely a cost saver kit. It’s a pain in the butt going the other way. I bought the Bolton Bikes (Area 13) kit and that saved bucks putting it in my Rad Mini 2018. May add to that with this but putting bucks into a new fork for my Hyper Scorpion.
@Thomas-po3by
@Thomas-po3by 7 ай бұрын
Hail Citizen! Love what you have done. unbelievable! My only question is, would I be able to adapt this kit to my Electric xp2 step thru?? Tc from Nevada
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
if enough folks want a 20x4 version i could potentially build that too. you would also need to switch out your forks to RST guide forks.
@Thomas-po3by
@Thomas-po3by 7 ай бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 Thanks for your response. Do appreciate your attention. My bike totally needs another battery, not getting a lot of distance out of the factory battery. The thought of another motor would be nice!!
@Richgiosh-h7z
@Richgiosh-h7z 7 ай бұрын
Great job on putting this together, just got a 2024 wire freedom, definitely would like to have the kit, please let me know when available , Definitely ready, thanks for all you do, learned a lot from your videos, keep up the good work
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
excellent! hopefully taking orders soon!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@RickCarter-k4v
@RickCarter-k4v 7 ай бұрын
I Would Be Interested In Buying Your Bike Kit! Thanks! I Really Enjoy Your Videos.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@StevenFranklin-v1m
@StevenFranklin-v1m 7 ай бұрын
Yes, I'm interested. Please let me know when they become available. Thanks
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@hanschristeler2392
@hanschristeler2392 7 ай бұрын
Yes absolutely!!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
alrighty!! great to hear!
@lewisedwardson7776
@lewisedwardson7776 7 ай бұрын
You got the manufacturer to work with you on this? Wired might even end up buying the same parts and selling Dual Motor Wired Freedoms or Kits to convert them, too, that would be cool. There's certainly room for them to make a more expensive bike and still be within reasonable price. I've thought about what I'd want in a Dual Motor setup already, and what you did is definitely in that direction. Your rear motor has double the rated continuous power of your front, but they peak at around the same, which is ideal because you're going to be using the rear motor constantly and the front motor for periods of time but it gets breaks to cool down, so a lighter 750W motor makes sense there, but it still needs to be able to contribute enough power to match the other motor to feel useful, and it also gives you that redundancy, which is great, if anything stops working, you had two of those anyway, so you're good, just fix it before something else breaks. No worrying about getting stuck in traffic with a bike that won't go and is difficult to pedal.
@Doc.Holiday
@Doc.Holiday 7 ай бұрын
Go for it!!! I’m not a prospect but lots of hunters are using two wheel drive bikes. What you might consider is selling modified bikes. Look at some of the hunting bikes, they are pricey. That might be a good market segment to cater yourself to. Work a tiered quantity deal with Wired for their green bike, do some camo mods, drive mods and go for it!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Interesting thoughts, thank you for the input!
@Trailtested
@Trailtested 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely your on To a really good kit here and built by a rider
@scurtiszz
@scurtiszz 7 ай бұрын
im in! been thinkin about addind a front motor to thr magicycle cruiser
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
would have to change your forks but otherwise would work!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@johnhecht5565
@johnhecht5565 7 ай бұрын
Yes. When do you hope to have the warp drive available for sale?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@rjattorney3677
@rjattorney3677 7 ай бұрын
Yes, for sure!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
okay, the interest in this kit is looking good!
@robb36kc
@robb36kc 7 ай бұрын
I was going to buy another battery anyway. I'm planning on riding the RAGBRAI, bicycle ride Across Iowa this summer and one of the days is 80 miles. So, I know I can easily do that with 2 Freedom batteries. With your KIT, I think I can get the range I want, plus all the other benefits the kit delivers... for the same price as a second Wired battery. No brainer, I'm SOLD! I'll need the kit no later than the beginning of July.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
finishing up things, taking orders soon, should be ready well before july!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@johnking1233
@johnking1233 7 ай бұрын
I will buy one yesterday . Count me in .
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Awesome!!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@LexyTheEbikeQueen
@LexyTheEbikeQueen 20 күн бұрын
You should do a 3 motor trike and connect both back wheels to one throttle and the front wheel to it’s own throttle
@TNSonglines
@TNSonglines 7 ай бұрын
@CitizenCycle925 Yes, nice upgrade. The only option I would suggest is for a regenerative braking option. It would be a requirement for me as the primary reasoning for my new bike's custom build was for regenerative braking on the front hub's motor to reduce brake pad wear by 95-99%. AWD, quicker acceleration, + the ability to drive the bike home if my mid-drive motor goes out or I break a belt are all additional benefits of the front hub on my mid-drive with IGH build. I especially like how you've kept the 2nd system throttle only. Very nice system as you've designed it, but the regenerative braking option might be of interest to those who ride in alot of hilly areas or for those looking to greatly reduce brake pad wear.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
My goal was to deliver the torque power of a geared hub motor to the front wheel, i dont know of any geared hubs that have a regen feature to them... I think if regen is a main concern then the direct drive motors are probably more appropriate. Thanks for the feedback! what bike did you modify?
@TNSonglines
@TNSonglines 7 ай бұрын
@CitizenCycle925 I actually don't have the bike yet and must first sell my current bike then start the bike build. If your main goal was torque you definitely would succeed with a geared hub with your project. My project revolves around a mid-drive bike whose 2nd front hub motors primary reasoning was to nearly eliminate brake pad replacements while providing the additional benefits I listed above. You can do regenerative braking with geared or direct drive. If using direct drive, the freewheel must be locked or completely eliminated and there are videos on KZbin from a company that's done alot on regenerative braking motors. I was planning on running a geared front hub but have since decided to use a direct drive hub as I'm already going to have the torque multiplication from my bikes gearing to help assist the mid-drive motor. I stayed away from saying the company's name that is very well versed in regenerative braking but if you want me to share the name I will.
@LexyTheEbikeQueen
@LexyTheEbikeQueen 20 күн бұрын
I stay in Haw River North Carolina Is There A Way I Can Get A Kit And Have You Do It Exactly Like This… This Is So Smart
@sgtchitt1
@sgtchitt1 7 ай бұрын
fantastic video and job. i think you are underselling your price , which iam sure people will appreciate it, but you need to add in your knowledge and time spent developing this. right before you said the price i was thinking around 1500 to 1800 for the kit, when you said 800 i almost spit out my drink, my wife in the other room ask me if i was okay, lol. i would be ordering this kit the second you put it on the market, only thing i could think of , and iam sure you already planned on doing, is a video of the installation step by step, to make it easier on the installer, aka ( me ) . thank you for your videos and time spent on developing this amazing addition to the wired freedom. be safe and take care. much respect to you.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for the input!! you make some great points but i also want the price to make it very attainable for folks. And yes of course I would do a step by step install video on various bikes. :)
@kevo60420
@kevo60420 2 ай бұрын
Pretty cool dude. I like it.
@roncorbett6289
@roncorbett6289 7 ай бұрын
Sure I would buy one
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
excellent! thanks for commenting!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Hi Ron, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@8garbage
@8garbage 7 ай бұрын
Yes please, I would like one
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@patricke5662
@patricke5662 5 ай бұрын
absolutely interested
@rufusirvin5279
@rufusirvin5279 7 ай бұрын
You should keep 60 v batteries for both motors. Pain packing 2 different chargers. Of course higher voltage higher speed so your bike will go a little bit faster than what you just did. Always good to have that extra battery in case something goes wrong.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Hopefully with the additional range of a 780watt hour battery you wouldn't need to carry the chargers.... :) also the 60v costs more and i didnt want to overvolt my 52v motor..
@KayWesDM
@KayWesDM 7 ай бұрын
Excellent kit!! Sign me up 👍
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
excellent! thank you for responding!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
HI Kay, Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@JohnnyThrottleTV
@JohnnyThrottleTV 7 ай бұрын
I thought I posted on here yesterday, but let me know if you want the info for a 2000w front hub custom build, 500 buck's, but comes with controller, hub with wheel and display. Easy plug and play.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
is this a direct drive 2000w motor?
@dsolvtec
@dsolvtec 7 ай бұрын
I would LOVE a Smaller Wired freedom! Kudos for the over the top mod, but I just want the bike to feel more comfortable. - (6'1" Wired Freedom owner)
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
yes, it is certainly a large bike, hard to tell until you see it in person.
@JeffJacobsen-d4s
@JeffJacobsen-d4s 7 ай бұрын
Definitely interested!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
awesome! thanks for letting me know, seems to be some good interest in this kit!
@keithkemp9660
@keithkemp9660 7 ай бұрын
Built it we will buy it👍🏻
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
great, thanks for commenting!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Hey Keith, they are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@rustymckinley3398
@rustymckinley3398 7 ай бұрын
I would interested. It would be a few months out before I would be able to purchase it though. I like my bike a lot. AWD would make it awesome.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
alrighty thanks for responding :)
@ringss12
@ringss12 7 ай бұрын
You are the man 😎. I have the August 2023 cruiser, would this work with my bike? I also bought an extra battery ($800.00) . You said that the front forks would need to be changed, do you know what the cost of those are? That would be something I would like to get ( after I have more time on my bike,200+ hours on it ). I'm still a newbie with e-bikes (Wired) . Thank you for a great upgrade. Keep on rocking 👍🏼🚵🏽
@TheTcat1000
@TheTcat1000 7 ай бұрын
Your forks will not work. The FST are about 200 bucks.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Your 2023 probably has Mozo forks, you would need to switch to RST Guide which are about $200. thanks for the comment
@liscrisprod
@liscrisprod 7 ай бұрын
Count me in! But won't Wired be considering doing this themselves aye?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Not sure if they will ever build AWD bikes, but even if they do, that doesnt fill the need of folks who already have a bike they like and want to convert it. :)
@liscrisprod
@liscrisprod 7 ай бұрын
@@CitizenCycle925 Right On! Have you toyed with the 72v 100amp controller idea too?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@bangstik4599
@bangstik4599 7 ай бұрын
Resellable AWD Kit, sure...great job. You can't stop now. It's only 85% complete. It's not done till you merge the displays and front/rear selector switch like the Grizzly. One more month, then Celebrate‼️ Next project dual 45A controllers on your Grizzly ‼️ 🤜🤯🤛
@alphonsotate2982
@alphonsotate2982 7 ай бұрын
My X is better two separate systems are better in case one go down you still have a motor to help you move the bike
@kiki88xo
@kiki88xo 7 ай бұрын
This is super awesome! I’m Actually right now debating on buying a wired or another ebike which has dual motors in it. I’m on the fence bc I’m on the shorter side like your wife. Not sure I’d be able to comfortably ride it. If I do buy it, Id definitely be interested in a kit. I’d like to have a 20 ah battery for it though.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
as long as you put RST Guide forks on whatever bike you have, you would be able to use this kit.
@quantumfx2677
@quantumfx2677 7 ай бұрын
E-Cell at 146nm is the same bike as the wired Freedom at 138nm but much cheaper! Controller KT 60v 40A 146nm controller. Delivers 2400 watts of power while the wired Freedom motor is 2200w peak! Or buy the dual motor monarch!
@kiki88xo
@kiki88xo 7 ай бұрын
I’ve seen the reviews for the ecell five star. A lot of similarities but it’s not supposed to come out until late spring early summer. No one has even test rode it yet. I actually can pick up the wired freedom and don’t have to ship it, So no shipping costs for me 🎉. Just got to pay Uncle Sam 💰. Wish I were taller 😂
@OMDURSECURITYISOURBUSINESS
@OMDURSECURITYISOURBUSINESS 7 ай бұрын
Yeah would love this with 1000amp battery
@matthewsylva8958
@matthewsylva8958 5 ай бұрын
Hell yeah I’m interested
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 5 ай бұрын
Pre sale now at citizenperformance.com 😁
@Carlos18731
@Carlos18731 7 ай бұрын
If this fits last years model then I would be interested
@TheTcat1000
@TheTcat1000 7 ай бұрын
Last year’s model does not have FST fork
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
the 2023 model Wired has Mozo Forks so you would have to switch them out.
@ericberg7364
@ericberg7364 7 ай бұрын
A hundred thumbs up 👍 awesome.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Wow thanks!
@quantumfx2677
@quantumfx2677 7 ай бұрын
E-Cell at 146nm is the same bike as the wired Freedom at 138nm but much cheaper! That extra savings could buy you an upgrade front fork for front motor! Controller KT 60v 40A 146nm controller. Delivers 2400 watts of power while the wired Freedom motor is 2200w peak!
@jimkingselectronics
@jimkingselectronics 2 ай бұрын
I have the 2023 Eahora Juliet 20-inch eBike. It is a little underpowered for my taste with a top speed of 28 mph. It has a 48-volt 1000-watt geared motor with a 60 AH battery. I have been looking into doing exactly what you have done with the Wired so I can raise that top end to at least 35 mph when I need to. I live right off of US Hwy 321 and have to travel it for at least 2 miles before I can get on a secondary road with much less traffic. Today, a large diesel truck pulling a very heavy trailer with a large machine on it moved to the center of the road to avoid me and ran an oncoming vehicle onto the shoulder of the road to avoid a head on collision. The speed limit is 55 and he was probably doing over 60. Everybody is in a hurry. I know the Wired can reach 35 with just the rear motor, so I was wondering what I would need on the front to be able to reach that speed without help from limited rear motor. Any suggestions would be appreciated, and I would be glad to purchase an appropriate kit from you. The extra battery would not be a problem and would be seldom used for my purpose as I'm not in as big a hurry as the driver of that truck. Thanks, Jim
@williamburdick2251
@williamburdick2251 7 ай бұрын
Yes!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
thank you for your input!
@RT-kr4wy
@RT-kr4wy 7 ай бұрын
What are you waiting on!!!!!!! Get this darn thing started! And is there any way the controller can sit in with the battery, or is that a heat/air flow concern?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
working on finalizing and moving forward soon! i usually like to get some airflow to the controller.
@mikebrum9910
@mikebrum9910 7 ай бұрын
I did the same upgrade on my Radrover 5 bike as you did on your Citizen bike. I would also be interested in doing it to my Wired Freedom bike. I like the torque it has. How much additional weight did it add?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
adds 15lbs
@AllAround360media
@AllAround360media 7 ай бұрын
i'm ordering a (green) Freedom tomorrow (~2 month backlog?) This is a perfect solution, count me in, as that'd make it the most badass bike in my KS time zone.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
okay thank you for the response!
@quantumfx2677
@quantumfx2677 7 ай бұрын
E-Cell at 146nm is the same bike as the wired Freedom at 138nm but much cheaper! Controller KT 60v 40A 146nm controller. Delivers 2400 watts of power while the wired Freedom motor is 2200w peak!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@larrybowers64
@larrybowers64 6 ай бұрын
Please Bryan, also make a 20"X4.00" fat tire bike kit. Maybe even a 24"X3.00" as well.
@wigenite
@wigenite 7 ай бұрын
might be interested, how much weight does it add overall? Also, If you are up for it, I'd like to see what a freedom looks like on 24 or 20in wheels, if it's possible to swap the motors?
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kit adds about 15lbs. I dont have any 24in wheels but they may look okay. not sure that 20in would look good.
@robstafford2700
@robstafford2700 7 ай бұрын
I would love to do this on my Juiced Ripcurrent S. Guess I had better start looking at getting new forks.
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
thank you for the comment! :)
@RHAMBO293
@RHAMBO293 7 ай бұрын
Yes, yes, yes! My Radrover is in need of all wheel drive....
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
okay awesome, thank you for commenting!
@CitizenCycle925
@CitizenCycle925 7 ай бұрын
Kits are available for pre-order now at Citizenperformance.com
@joeberginc7415
@joeberginc7415 7 ай бұрын
Good work. I have 4 diy ebike s 3k to 4k power. 3 are awd. I recommend 2k or 3k rear and no more than 1k front, but I do combine into one throttle.
@andrewdiamond2697
@andrewdiamond2697 7 ай бұрын
Wired comes with a 60v 2k in the rear from the factory, and he added 750 to the front...so specs match.
@joeberginc7415
@joeberginc7415 7 ай бұрын
45amp x 52volt =2200watt+ ithink he said 52v front battery an 60v rear thats why he has tfront wheel spin...voltage should match front and back.
@andrewdiamond2697
@andrewdiamond2697 7 ай бұрын
@@joeberginc7415 The wheel spin is because the center of mass is more towards the rear than normal, due to the battery on the back rack. There just isn't enough mass on the front fork to hold the wheel down. I'd be curious what would happen if the 2nd battery were mounted toward the front of the frame or even better, like a front basket to the head tube....it would have to help some.
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