Dual Motor Himiway Zebra: Front Motor Kit Installation

[@jwillwork3683]

Best bike channel rn.

[@jimbosadventures184]

Ordered mine can’t wait!

[@TheTcat1000]

Bryan you make it so easy that anybody can do it. You don’t use any special tools. You’re very thorough and precise in your videos.

[@CitizenCycle925]

appreciate that! Thanks!

[@DrRevKing]

👍 Excellent job with full and clear explanation, Brian. We already ordered 2 kits for our Wired Freedoms. NEXT Challenge for you: 26x4.5" tire Himingway Cobra "Pro" model!!! (Consider 2 already sold!) 🤗

[@DanielLopes-kv4sp]

Thought swapping out forks would be more complicated. Probably is once I get involved with it. Looks doable with persistence, patience. Excellent instructions. I have double crown fork and mag wheel (hyper scorpion). I mentioned this before. I’m looking to upgrade the fork. Will extrapolate the info for my purpose. Would like duel motor set up but as said got mag wheels. It’s crazy how you just go into it and it’s done!

[@DanielLopes-kv4sp]

The best benefit is having a backup motor should one go out.

[@jasonkrantz8946]

😮yeah good thought didn't think of that nice

[@SMG-lz1zq]

This is really cool. I like these how to videos. I'm not going to buy this because I have another bike with 1000 watts and it's fast enough and climbs hills with ease. Plus you make it look so easy but I know I'd run into trouble trying to hook it up. I hope you're selling a lot of them and making some money but you're probably doing it more for the enjoyment of it.

[@WyomingRider]

Looks great on that bike!

[@alanflatau1685]

I ordered the kit, but no dimensions of the 20ah and the controller?please let folks know if you have time THANK YOU BROTHER GOD BLESS

[@CitizenCycle925]

Controller 17cm x 8cm x 4cm. 20ah battery 18cm x 17cm x 7.5cm and 10lbs

[@davidcrowson4745]

Well done sir

[@Willrocs]

Real question is where do I put the heat shields for the turbines

[@6431harry]

Do you have a brake adjustment video? I appreciate all the detail on this video!

[@anthonysuarez7416]

Good video! Just wondering.... Do you have an affiliate link for those RST Guide forks?

[@CitizenCycle925]

just added links to the video description for you!

[@kdscrapping4452]

Nice!!

[@jasonkrantz8946]

Like the idea of more go off line when it is needed

[@groovr22]

Can you share a link for the gloves you are wearing..?

[@CitizenCycle925]

M1Moto gloves, mine are the Sedona 508's, it was a limited edition but you can get them in black or ox blood right now..

[@jasonkrantz8946]

Just a heads up forks on keplar have the easy going nonché for the bearing 🎉

[@RAZORWlND]

The issue I've had with RST Guide forks is they are very soft and have the least amount of travel of almost any suspension fork, all sizes. Cruising on the road is no problem but any serious bumps or any off road I bottom out badly. I think you just had a bad set of Himalo forks. I love the RST Guide quality I just wish they were not so soft and limited travel.

[@RAZORWlND]

Should of mentioned I switched back to my Himalo air forks with a front mounted motor and it works great! Love the travel and adjustability of the Himalo forks. Much better ride not being so spungy!

[@jvctnt]

Badass!!

[@darrylphillips6301]

I'm pretty sure u can use the himalo double crown forks will work on here as well. Or just find another manufacturer like mine (Freesky) who already makes a double motor 1000watt bike and buy the Freesky forks used on that bike for this build...

[@jwillwork3683]

I’m between doing this to my Aventure or selling it and buying A new bike to do this too. Also considered A 500w front motor as the 750 in the back is pretty good already. Just wanna climb hills on throttle only sometimes.

[@CitizenCycle925]

this kit goes on to the Aventure bike very easily. but buying a dual motor ebike is a great option too if you have the cash.

[@luigiprovencher]

Should've put the controller where the water bottle screws are and used the screws to hold it on. I don't think it would've looked bad and you could probably make the controller look like a water bottle somehow. Take the guts of the controller out of it's shell/housing and place it in an aluminum water bottle. Do they make cylinder shaped controllers?

[@bunit8]

Will you review the ecells five star Ebike in the near future?

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Would be cool if you could get an app for Android or iPhone to use for control of the front display.. You could put all the stuff in one bag and not need any display out of the bag once it is turned on. Another thing I have never seen on my bike is the motor still running after I release the throttle. I probably won't use a cut off for brake levers.

[@daveyJ213]

Mr. CitizenCycle Sir. Do you think you could do a special order of this kit with a 26" wheel, say 26 x 2.15? I'd love to put this on the rear wheel of my recumbent trike. I might need extension cables for the brake levers, but I could order those myself. Thanks.

[@dmitriykovtunovich8635]

Would it work the same way on the cruiser ?

[@sotheamam1244]

Nice. Do they have 1400watts motor

[@dr.arnoldbenitez5642]

Bryan, will the fork that the Lectric XPeak has, will that fork be strong enough to hold the front motor?

[@CitizenCycle925]

@@dr.arnoldbenitez5642 front motor kit would not fit on the xpeak fork since it is a through axle Style

[@willr3823]

What if you want to use a single battery? My current ebike has a , 60ah battery. Do I really need to add another battery?

[@ishgumi44]

Excellent work and video sir! I noticed that the display is the same as the one that Wired use one their bikes. What are you thoughts about adding this kit to (the already insanely powerful) Wired Freedom?

[@CitizenCycle925]

already had this kit on my wired freedom, check my recent videos :) it was Awesome power and looked better on that bike since screens matched.

[@ishgumi44]

@@CitizenCycle925 I just watched it. Can't believe I missed it. Here's food for thought: Is it possible to install the SAME Hetnach motor Wired uses on the front? Mated with a similar battery and controller (but hooked up separately, just like you did. I like this idea a lot) . This would create a superbike the likes no one has ever seen. Off course, the settings on the front motor could be tamed down as needed to prevent accidents. Your thoughts?

[@CitizenCycle925]

@@ishgumi44 my thoughts... I think you have a very good chance of seeing that 😉

[@robertahart4009]

Cn it be installed onto a rev1 Drt ebike

[@Mr.Flipster]

R U GOING 2 MAKE A KIT 4 DIFFERENT TIRE SIZE????? LUV UR VIDS KEEP IT UP.

[@ELPANAJOVI]

Hi, excellent work you are doing. I have not decided yet about getting the Zebra or the Cobra, would you happen to know the wheelbase of them ? The reason I asked is because I live in a Bldg and I am not sure if it fits (The Cobra) bike, looks like the Zebra will fit. Thanks.

[@wise11978]

Will it be available in a 20x4 wheel kit?

[@angel198717]

try doing a vid with the replacement key-disp kd-718 display for himiway bikes it unlocks the full power of the motor

[@CitizenCycle925]

already did that a while back :)

[@goldbearbunny4787]

Since all my fabulous ebikes all have mag wheels even the bikes with the front motor hub I never worry about lose or broken spokes. Is there alot of issues or maintenance with bikes with spokes. Because that is what I worry about if I was to get different style bike .

[@keithpegg7825]

Thank you, I did find a battery on Amazon that is a triangle pack and looks like it will work. ?

[@CitizenCycle925]

to work with the kit it should be 52v and have a XT60 connector

[@psuedonymalias]

Hi C.C. Whats the top speed with both throttles at full power?

[@CitizenCycle925]

Approx 31mph

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Does the crown race for an RST Guide fork set cost much? Maybe just buy an extra one

[@CitizenCycle925]

the crown race matches specifically to the headset bearings, you either have to remover original crown race or buy all new headset bearings, i didnt want to try to figure out all the measurements..

[@ThatMFTurtle]

So instead of 25mph as the top speed, what would be the top speed with both motors being used at the same time? (I have a Key display so my himiway zebra has the unlocked top speed and doesn’t cut off at 25) so how fast would you go with both motors?

[@reginaldbowers161]

I have a Hemingway cruiser will this work for me?

[@CitizenCycle925]

As long as you switch out the front forks to RST GUIDE forks, yes, it will.

[@Ebikepowerlevel5]

I have the himmway cruiser I am putting this kit on its 48v do you think I can use a balancer to combine both the 52v with my 48v as one battery also when do you think the kits will ship out😊

[@CitizenCycle925]

Should be shipping out to customers middle to end of May. Combining with a balancer should work. You'll just have to try and see. I have not tried that set up though so I can't be certain.

[@Ebikepowerlevel5]

@CitizenCycle925 ok I will let you know if it works

[@davecook81]

Can I order the kit for a 20in wheel?

[@CitizenCycle925]

Only have it for 26x4 right now

[@jasonkrantz8946]

I want this for a keplar ebike

[@CitizenCycle925]

you would have to swap keplar forks but it should work just fine on that bike. :)

[@jasonkrantz8946]

Yeah I have been looking it to it 4 year now

[@desrataz1]

Will this be available for 20" wheels?

[@CitizenCycle925]

only 26x4 currently, but maybe 20in in the future.

[@Goesriding]

You should have kept the original himiway cruiser you had before that went almost 40mph and added this to it.

[@CitizenCycle925]

i regret letting that bike go..

[@Goesriding]

Definitely should have gotten rid of the step thru instead of the cruiser. I put a front motor on the cruiser set up and shunt modded the controllers. I can go 42mph throttle only top speed, 35mph uphill. One thing i would say about the 2 seperate throttles, I first agreed it should be seperate throttles but after using awhile, i realized 1 throttle is the way to go as long as you can change power settings like PAS on the front motor and even turning it off on the seperate display. That way you choose when to turn on the front and how much power while one throttle controlls exactly how much twist you want. This also allows you to find and set the throttle power to be almost exactly same fir both motors. Downfall of 2 throttle is that you wont have atleast 1 hand holding tight on the bike, you have to manually twist both throttles that have different controll points on the throttle causing different power outputs and sometimes jolty power caused by rider shifting by terrain. This tedious controll can cause both hands fatigue. @CitizenCycle925

[@Goesriding]

I also realized that using 2 throttles for somereason makes me forget to pedal, too many controll actions to be comfortably pedaling I guess? I am now gonna add 52t front and 11t-34t rear to add top speed hopefully now I can add pedaling. @@CitizenCycle925

[@fsociety.dat101]

Might have been better to find a way of fitting the controller next to the existing controller inside the frame. Perhaps machine the holes where the cables exit the bike frame. Especially for countries with awkward regulations. Looking at you UK 😐

[@normanwray1341]

Hello dear friend what's that power 😅😊

[@AhSonnyBoikf]

Nice. 2 wheel drive is always fun but my shengmilo dual motor hub is probably better cause it came that way 😂.

[@CitizenCycle925]

yes, if you want dual motors just buy it from the start, but this is for folks who have a bike they like and just want to add the 2nd motor :)

[@AhSonnyBoikf]

@@CitizenCycle925 yeah ik I might wanna put another 3000w on my stealth bomber clone so I can have dual motor but I don’t wanna dual throttle.

[@chuckwolf9869]

45 amp controller at 52 volts nominal so a 2300 watt peak motor.... guessing the "750" watts is for legal reasons. because I doubt the continuous current of that controller is only 15 amps. And i thought the 27+/- 2 amp 48 volts for 1400 watts my bike sends to it's front (and rear, each) was powerful.

[@CitizenCycle925]

i was trying to replicate the power of my citizen bike which has overvolted 48v motors. i had to go to 45a controller on this 52v motor to match the torque. :)

[@jasonkrantz8946]

I must have messed up fork swap lol

[@jimraike3889]

Come on May

[@CitizenCycle925]

Haha it will go quick 😁

[@supercharged2414]

I can't see how this is worth doing for what it cost. With the fork this is about a $1100 plus mod. My Shengmilo S600 is only a few hundred more for a dual suspension dual motor bike.

[@normanwray1341]

Hello dear Bryan so I will try to change my fork for one like that 😅😊ok

[@Tempest4Teapot]

Citizen, I’m a 55 year old big man (6’2” 385lbs) who’s ready to buy his first e-bike, I’m very interested in purchasing one of your kit(s). (Hopefully still available) 🙏 Q: Will your kit work with either of the two bikes (below) if I replace the existing front forks with RST Guide forks? 1. The Mokwheel Obsidian Or 2. The Veltronic Discovery2 I chose these e-bikes because they both have a total weight capacity of 400 lbs or more. If applicable and/or still available… …your kit could provide me the extra boost I (may) need to climb up inclines that I couldn’t otherwise climb. I also really appreciate the idea that I can rely on a second (independent) drive to get me home should the other drive fail. I see you did a conversion with the Himiway so I figured maybe you’d do a kit for the Mokwheel Obsidian. I’m holding my breath… …that you’ll do a kit for the new Velotric Discovery2 b/c it’s just under a 3” tire bike, but maybe you’ll surprise me. I’ve studied the design and engineering of both bikes. I’m confident both style of bikes could easily handle a second drive…but maybe I’m wrong. I considered both the Wired Freedom and the 5 Star E-Cells bikes, unfortunately neither bike will support my body weight. I’m absolutely determined to lose the weight, a solid e-bike with the right modifications will help me reach that goal. The key to youth and longevity is to stay active ⚡️🚴 just do it sensibly and safe… Thanks for reading my comment and for doing what you do. I hope to hear back from you soon. Coolwater ⚡️ 🚴💨

[@CitizenCycle925]

@coolwater1628 hi coolwater, I will be putting my kit back up for pre-orders very soon, I just placed an order with the manufacturer to get more. It will fit the mokwheel obsidian but not the Velotric Discovery 2

[@Tempest4Teapot]

@@CitizenCycle925 That’s really great news, thanks for responding so quickly. I watched so many reviews of e-bikes on KZbin that my head is spinning 😵‍💫… I’m lucky that I found your channel when I did, I was having a hard time deciding which e-bike to buy. To know that I can modify the Obsidian with your kit is all that I needed to know…this has helped me to decide which e-bike to purchase. The Mokwheel and the Velotric both appear to be well designed and well engineered bikes. Because of my weight I need a bike with a front & rear suspension and I much prefer the fat tire…the Mokwheel is definitely the way to go! Q: Have you installed your kit on a Mokwheel Obsidian before, if so Is there a video on KZbin? Forgive me if these are stupid questions… Q: Will the specs of the second battery match with the primary (manufacturers) battery? Q: Has Mokwheel finally designed and released (for sale) a rear cargo bracket for the Obsidian? Q: Do you have any suggestions as to where I can find a rear mount bracket to hold the second battery? Q: Can you send me a link or tell me where to go to purchase the RST Forks. Q: Do you require a deposit before ordering the kit? I have no problem with providing you a deposit 💵…just let me know. Q: Do you know if Mokwheel will sell me any additional parts…such as a second (matching) display and a second battery? One last question…lol ⚡️🚴 Q: I plan to buy an aftermarket (high lumens) headlight for night riding 🌙 …is there a way to attach (via usb or otherwise) the headlight and brake light directly to the primary battery? Thanks again for responding to my comments and questions…. I truly appreciate your support. This means a great deal to me. Last week I rode 4 different e-bike(s) it was a wonderful experience… …until I asked the salesman how much…OMG these guys are ripping people off. … all the bikes I rode were overpriced…way overpriced, they were priced between $5k and $10k! That’s frikkin nuts! With your custom kit I can dial in and upgrade my e-bike exactly where it matters (to me) most! 🔋⚡️🚴💨 ✅

[@Tempest4Teapot]

Citizen… I just watched your video in which you specifically address my previous question(s) pertaining to the battery. Incredibly I somehow missed watching this video…it’s easy to do b/c there’s so so many e-bike reviews on KZbin. I’m sure somebody out there is selling an aftermarket (universal) rear cargo bracket that will fit the Mokwheel Obsidian. On a side note… I looked at the Himiway e-bikes to see how they compared to the Mokwheel. The Himiway D7 Pro has a 400lb weight capacity as does the Himiway D7 Cobra 🐍… …but the frickin Cobra today is priced (on Sale 😂) at just $3,599.00 Holy Cow 🐮 at these prices I may need to consider looking back at E-Cells production. The website keeps changing (a good thing) that’s capitalism! Competition is always best for the consumer. I noticed the latest version of the Triple Crown now supports a 400lb weight capacity. No doubt I need to spend more time comparing e-bikes… If you don’t see exactly what you’re looking for just spend some time letting these manufacturers know… Trust in knowing somebody out there from corporate is reading your comments… I’m still down with your upgrade kit…just please let me know when it’s available. ⚡️🚴💨 Happy Trails…

[@michaelbedard7859]

Stupid question for you? This can be used with a plain bike upgrade as long as the fork is safe.

[@CitizenCycle925]

Absolutely!

[@normanwray1341]

Hi would live in a one of them they house thank 😅😊

[@RidinRetired]

First!