"CityBug" Peugeot 107 Fitting Apex Lowering Springs Sports Suspension

[@Venom1985UK]

Just a quick helpful tip, Jack up both sides at the front. Work on the car while both front wheels are up in the air, that will give you more drop as the antiroll bar won’t be under tension

[@aaanton11]

Good tip! Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@Pes60]

I have jacked up all the 107’s I have worked on in the middle of the rear axle and have never had an issue,it is very solid.

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@fuma87]

Just use a small spreader tool to push the steering knuckle apart that holds the shock absorber in place. No need to hammer on the knuckle when using that useful tool :) Also very common on VW or BMW cars to hold the shock in place

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@fuma87]

@@aaanton11 it looks like this in the following link: www.xxl-automotive.de/spezialwerkzeug/fahrwerk-achse/stossdaempfer-federn/5156/radlagergehaeuse-spreizer-hazet-4912-1 Very handy!

[@JustMyFish]

I’m impressed just over £100 for the complete sit at the beginning of the video. I thought you meant each side. It’s well affordable. And makes a massive improvement on the look and performance. I’ve got to do it myself. I have the Toyota Yago.

[@aaanton11]

Great Springs and a nice ride, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@joshuahearn2388]

Great video Anton. Looking to do this on my 108 in a few weeks time. Nice bit of guidance mate.

[@aaanton11]

Glad it helped Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@mikhaillindan9091]

Amazing work Anton. I am still of the opnion that drive shaft needs to come out and ball joint needs to be separated first. I also like to take off the caliper, carrier and discs and pads to make the knuckle lighter to wrestle with.

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@gort1959]

Useful video, as I'm about to put AP Coil Overs on my 107. I'm also running ATS Cups but they are wider, more dish. I've done suspension work on a few VW's in my time. Interesting to see you're also in Leicester (accent was bit of a giveaway) and I noticed you drove down the Blaby bypass and turned towards Whetsone, where i used to live! Informative stuff! Cheers!

[@aaanton11]

Glad it helped spot on with the location Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@GrandadPunchy]

Hi Ant.... Any excuse to get that Milwaukee Fuel M18 gun out ☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️ Great bit of kit tho. To be fair, the DINKY TOY looks good on those springs. Should lower a bit more once they settle. Stay safe. Stay healthy to you & the family. Alan L200

[@aaanton11]

I was Happy with the drop, Not too drastic kamen was worried about the speed bumps bashing the underside, but no issues at all, its like a little go kart now, Thanks Alan for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@TB-mizzog]

Just a hint from a past mistake doing this job myself when hammering the strut do yourself a favour and remove the abs sensor and tie it up out the way as the percussive shock can wreck them, 9 times out of ten you'll get away with it but why risk it.

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@harveyfisher23]

Thanks for the video, really helpful! I've currently got 195/45/R15 wheels on my Bug, and with 2 people in the back every slight bump in the road causes the body to rub the back wheels. Do you think these would stop that (along with the improved handling of course)? 🙂

[@aaanton11]

You need smaller tyres like in this video, kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5vHdpurlJedadk Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@curtis8516]

Thanks Ant, you're terrific - whereabout at the front do axle stands go?

[@aaanton11]

anywhere on the front subframe, best near mounting points, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@mikenefkens6626]

One of the worst things on the 107 is the boat like suspension, I assume this goes a great way towards fixing that. Problem is my daughter has her first insurance policy, and I bet any declared mod would literally double the premium, so no go :(

[@aaanton11]

The difference is not enough to notify the insurance in my opinion, its not like fitting coil overs they are just replacement parts, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@roconnor01]

Serious question, can adding off the shelf springs improve the handling, scientifically calculated during the design stage of any vehicle,or do they just improve the esthetics of it?

[@aaanton11]

Both. factory springs are designed for comfort with a lot of compromise, if you want better handling but don't mind the stiffer ride this is the way to go, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@dinsycycling1016]

Hi there, I found your channel the other night and have learnt a lot so far, my daughter has just bought a little 107 and just loves driving it as do myself. I have a question about the fuel cap, is there ment to be 2 keys one for the fuel and the other for the car?

[@aaanton11]

Normally the key is the same, but the cap may have been replaced at some point, you should have two keys for the ignition, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@jambo_t4299]

Cracking video pal. What wheels are they ?

[@aaanton11]

ATS Cup juniors, video is here kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5vHdpurlJedadk Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@thebearcouncil8810]

I learn a lot watching your videos, thank you. I've encountered a problem with my C1 after trying to remove the bolts of the rear shock absorbers in order to readjust the rubber mounting that had gone out of place. There was a lot of rust on it, and especially the left side was causing trouble but it finally started moving properly only for the bolt to literally snap in half a while later. We would be able to pull out the smoot part of it as it was moving freely, but the ridged part on the outside was still attached to the nut that can hardly be seen. When watching this video and similar ones as well, I can never see the actual nut on the outside be taken out. Is it wielded on or is there another reason it never comes off? Do you have any recommendation on how to get out the broken off bolt bit? It's a bit fiddly to get in there with any powerful tools in order to try and losen it, and I am still not sure whether it is wielded on or not. If possible, I'd like to try things on my own before sending it into the workshop because I'm having fun learning either way. Trying several different stores, all I can find are full shock absorbers and springs, but it seems more difficult to find the smaller parts that need to be replaced such as the bolts, nuts and rubber mountings. Thank you again.

[@aaanton11]

the nut is welded to the frame, but you could grind it off and just use a new nut and bolt, I would drill out the old one and tap the thread clean and refit, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@thebearcouncil8810]

@@aaanton11 Thank you for the advice and the quick reply. Sorry to bother again, but would you happen to know what type of bolt and nut I need to purchase to replace it? Is there an OEM-number? I've tried Autodoc and similar stores, but they do not seem to have it. I also don't know the measurements for these things. If you know where to buy new rubber mounts, that would be great too. Thank you.

[@graemecatty9921]

You didn't think to upgrade the shock absorbers while you were doing the springs?

[@aaanton11]

No need, they are all ok, but when they fail another video will appear😂 Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@mikenefkens6626]

Oh also to say I have APEX springs on my T32 transporter, so if they can take that, I assume quality will be more than enough for a 107

[@aaanton11]

They improved the ride, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@ssfikas745]

Nice job.I have Peugeot 107 with "apex".

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@AndrewPattullo]

Missed taking top bolt off strut ! How .. tried everything rusted on .......

[@aaanton11]

its in the video I struggled, and had to heat it up to remove, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@roop298]

My spring fit was a nightmare. I managed to round the hex insert at the top of the leg then split it hammering a torx bit in. I ended up cutting the bolts off as I didnt want to melt anything. I also dropped the lower ball joint and droplinks off.

[@aaanton11]

ouch! sounds like you had a right job on, I have done fiestas which are always getting water on the top mount corroding the threads and leg top, what a pain, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@albertsmith1048]

Having just acquired my second, would not pull the skin off a rice pudding C1 the first been an Aygo, what is gained by lowering the suspension on a car that is almost on the ground from new. A great video by the way, but why.

[@aaanton11]

Because it improves everything😂 Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@markholyoak9790]

great video again thanks for doing it

[@aaanton11]

No worries, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@cheekychops5906]

hi mate my 107 the blower has stopped working when i turn the dial, but i am getting a clicking sound behind the speedo,i have took the cover off, and looked at all the fuses but all good, but when i try to turn the blower on i can her a click sound like a relay, but i cannot see any, any ideas bud, thanks

[@aaanton11]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIXGd2Owg9yqfs0 Check out this video, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@paulstanford4735]

Fantastic videos always really helpful! First class bruv 😎🙏👌

[@aaanton11]

Glad you think so! Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@lilpinns4062]

To finish it off you can get a spoiler on eBay, I’ve ordered mine

[@aaanton11]

one is on its way, video coming soon, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@meantube5920]

Hello mate love the channel very informative. What was this ride height like when going over bumps and with people in the back? I have springs ready to install but hesitant atm.

[@aaanton11]

about the same as normal springs, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@jamesowen418]

Is it possible to undo the front strut top nut without having to remove the whole scuttle panel? Seems like a lot of work just to get to the 2 top nuts... there must be a tool somewhere that would make the job easier 🤔

[@aaanton11]

It doesn’t take long to get the scuttle off without removing that you can’t get access to the bolts Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@btf1]

Finally managed to get all thr springs on my c1 rears went on easy but fronts were a bit tricky as we didnt have much space to work with managed to fo one side no problem but had an issue trying to get the strut of the other side and out spring compressors were to long to fit in to compress the spring so had to get a mechanic in to undo the ball joint after all that i think we might have dameged the wheel bearing as the left wheel makes a metal rubbing sound when turning right and accelerating so expencive fix that if it is the bearing😢

[@aaanton11]

you wont have damaged the bearing, check the brake disc back plate is not too close to the disc just bebd it away a bit, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@btf1]

​@aaanton11 thank you for your reply ,didn't think you would after Three years 😅, I will have a look at it and will get back to you if I can fix it

[@damienjohnson6469]

Hi were the lowering spring easy to fit thanks

[@aaanton11]

yes not too difficult as per video, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@natalieyoung8014]

Hi Ant love your videos . I have a wee question for you . I have a citreon C1 and the steering is notchy. Any ideas what the problem is ? Regards Natalie

[@aaanton11]

Sounds like a possible steering rack issue, very unusual unless its been bashed, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@natalieyoung8014]

@@aaanton11 thanks for the tip

[@luke4455]

How much would a garage charge for labour on a job like this? Loving the citybug videos keep them coming :)

[@aaanton11]

anything from £350-£700 Depending on who you use!! Thanks Luke for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@luke4455]

@@aaanton11 a bit steep for me😂 cheers Anton👍

[@aaanton11]

get your spanners out😂😂👍🏻🛠

[@ryanmochrie1]

@@aaanton11 not a chance garage fitted mine for £70

[@ryanmochrie1]

@@aaanton11 £350 is like 7 hours labour 🙈

[@avpinstarter]

After changing the springs would the insurance co need to be told as its a modification thanks

[@aaanton11]

The insurance wouldn't normally pick up on these springs, if they were coil overs then definitely a mod, these are just replacement springs, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@davenaylor8076]

Instead of hammering the hub upwards to re engage the strut, could you have put a jack under and pushed it on?

[@aaanton11]

too right, I don't know why I didn't help it in with the jack, must have had a brain freeze moment, although it didn't take too long to slip back in. Great spot Dave Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@sionyip8997]

Have you had any problems with more passengers in the car? Wheel rubbing arches ect because it’s been lowered

[@aaanton11]

No These work like a charm, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@tomthompson7400]

couple of months down the line ,, how are you finding the springs and wheel combination , any issues at all ?

[@aaanton11]

Love it no issues, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@sayanpal9491]

Does it have issues with rear passengers? I noticed the car lowers visibly with two rear passengers. Just wondering if I lower the spring by 35 mm, will the tyres touch the wheel fender arch with rear passengers?

[@aaanton11]

No issues with passengers, in fact its better as the springs stiffen the more they are compressed, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@sayanpal9491]

@@aaanton11 : I recently fitted these inspired by your videos, Wondering if you still have the car in this video? how do they hold up after three years? Still going good? Any issues?

[@damienjohnson6469]

Hi there can you just use performance Springs, we're are you from if I got stuck please

[@aaanton11]

You can use any springs as long as they are for the right model, I am in Leicester but have loads on at the moment, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@damienjohnson6469]

@@aaanton11 thankyou thou

[@mattchadders9776]

would one of these be a good first car? I know it's completely different but how would this compare to a Nissan Almera n16?

[@aaanton11]

city bug all day long, fantastic cars, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@mattchadders9776]

@@aaanton11 thank you for replying so quick 👍 I'm 16 and I've been looking to get my first car early to do it up and slightly mod it, etc. I had my heart set on an almera but my dad recently bought a Peugeot 107 to tow when he goes away and after seeing it I've been stuck between the two for weeks 😂 is there any mods you would recommend that wouldn't make my insurance go sky high? Currently I've been quoted 1200 a year with alloy wheels and a better sound system

[@Mini-cu6mk]

My first car is a 107 They’re great cars. Very cheap to run, reliable, but still fun to drive

[@EsoxLVCIVS6776]

I'm 61 and I have owned many cars over the years including hooligans like the Sierra Cosworth and Nissan ZX turbo, but recently acquired a Peugeot 107 and every day I'm looking for an excuse to drive it. It's not a fast car but so much fun to drive and it corners like it's on rails. Will be getting the spring kit as shown soon and that will make it even better on corners.

[@adameightyeight718]

Whats the general ride like? I think the standard suspension can seem alittle crashy at times, can you see any negative effect in the quality. Obviously as the apex spring rates are higher its bound to feel stiffer. I've put lowering springs on cars in the past, and literally worst thing I could have done to the ride quality. Considering they were eibach springs, a premium brand. I've been on the fence with doing this to my c1.

[@aaanton11]

Such a good mod, and really impressed with the Apex springs, not too harsh on the ride, not too low still clears the speed humps, and looks nice and stumpy, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@david55clark]

Hi fella any chance you could tell me what model ratchet that is thanks

[@aaanton11]

Milwaukee ratchet, amzn.to/36Ydogr Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@paulstanford4735]

Hi bruv now you have lowered it 35mm is it wearing the inner edge of the front tyres if so do you think 30mm would be a safer drop! 😎👍

[@aaanton11]

The tyre wear doesn't seem to be an issue, love these springs, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@ey6008]

Where do you get that magnetic torch

[@aaanton11]

Right here Amazon link amzn.to/3az1QFT Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@MrGrtx]

Hi Anton is it absolutely necessary to take the front bulkhead thing off can you not get at the bolts I'm a novice so don't laugh 👍

[@aaanton11]

If I could have done it without taking it off it would be great, but you just cant get at the bolts out. the bulk head is not too difficult to remove, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@graemefisher7014]

What alloy wheels do you have fitted? Have you had to use spacers?

[@aaanton11]

This video is all about the wheels kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5vHdpurlJedadk Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@onlyme972]

Instead of hammering the hub to remove the suspension leg, you can use a thin chisel to open the slot as per official Toyota info. Easy.

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@abulzuze]

Are they 35mm and 40mm back and front sequentially!?

[@aaanton11]

40mm front and rear, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@rhysswildlifeanimalsandmor9903]

U put the personal number plate on a bmw 1 series I noticed I did a dvla check to see if it was still alive is it alive or dead

[@aaanton11]

I still have the 107, its off the road at the moment😂 needs another gearbox, another video at some point, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@rhysswildlifeanimalsandmor9903]

@@aaanton11 so glad you still have it your welcome

[@micheals1992]

Would something like this reduce the wear on the outer shoulders of the tyres? (Negative camber) My tyres always wear more on the outside edge and in the manual it says it's a sign of hard cornering, I don't go that mad but drive allot of twisty bendy A roads

[@aaanton11]

defiantly Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@dillonlee3229]

do this fit the 107/aygo or the C1 cus Euro car parts says they don't fit?

[@aaanton11]

Yes they fit all, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@pal555]

The speed Ramps are massive near me maybe you would smash your sump in I am interested in buying a Citroen c1 I'm on the look out nice little town car

[@aaanton11]

it is fine with speed humps, that's the benefit of using springs over coilovers Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@pal555]

@@aaanton11 I enjoy watching your videos I do my own repairs but not clutches in the street I'm getting on a bit for that I'm very interested in the Citroen c1 basic engineering look a great car

[@ey6008]

Any modification needs to be declared to any insurance company and could invalidate your policy, even non-original alloy wheels could void it,these will be declared if the vehicle is inspected for a claim

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@mackyV01]

Do you still have your eibach spring? And are you selling it. UK base here. Starting to mod my 107

[@aaanton11]

only have these fitted to the 107, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@GoryLL_UnCut]

Honestly, looking at the final result, i'd drop it -35 on the rear and -25 on the front. On the conclusion shot it looks pretty uneven to me. Still, good video from the mechanical point. Cheers ;)

[@aaanton11]

The car handles like a dream, so the rake front to rear is pretty good, and don't forget if you have some friends in the back you don't want it to be on the deck Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@GeorgeAusters]

That's only because there's no weight in the rear

[@RAMANOFFICIAL1]

Are these the one on eurocarpart?

[@aaanton11]

Yes Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@tiadoycheva7166]

What were the mm on the spring used in the video?

[@aaanton11]

35MM drop from and rear Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@cloudyclayton-youvebeengam7614]

What make are the alloys?

[@aaanton11]

This video is all about them kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5vHdpurlJedadk Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@frasermcinnes7390]

Can I use these springs for my Toyota Aygo

[@aaanton11]

Yes they are the same, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@frasermcinnes7390]

@@aaanton11 thanks just wanted to ask 👍

[@reecevince2166]

I honestly think the 107 needs the spoiler I think it looks weird without it I know it looks like a gigantic pram with it but I like it🤣🤣

[@aaanton11]

I have one, will hopefully be fitting it soon, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@reecevince2166]

@@aaanton11 will you ever do a video on changing the front bumper I have the exact same one that you do and I really wanna change it for 2009 facelift front bumper i’ve done the research And think it will fit but I just don’t wanna spend the money and have a not fit

[@tomthompson7400]

why not put the wheel youve just taken of the car under the sill , at least then if it slips off the jack when your feet are under the car you swill still have them , just a thought .

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@TB-mizzog]

Brilliant d.i.y video well described and executed .

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@dank9510]

What alloys are they bud

[@aaanton11]

ATS cup juniors, you can also fit the full A/T/S cup they look amazing Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@dank9510]

What size tyres you running

[@GeorgeAusters]

Are you doing youtube fulltime now mate?

[@aaanton11]

I am always making videos if that is what you mean 😂😂, Thanks George for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@GeorgeAusters]

@@aaanton11 I mean is it your fulltime job now? Haha

[@aaanton11]

I have just had a peak at your channel, some great content on there you are doing really well, Great work👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@777djdeep]

You a star m8

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@paul-ds1wr]

That looked like a right pain to get that front strut off, if you had disconnected the anti roll bar links both side s popped the ball joint off then removed the pinch bolt on the hub holding the shock in the hub knock a drift in the clamp on the hub it would have slid of easy 😁😁 trust me I look after a citroen c1 race car quick easy way to get them of good job mind improves handling no end

[@aaanton11]

I will try it that way next time thanks for the great advise 👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@ДимычДонской]

Доброго времени суток Вам з Украини! А з якого авто у Вас стоять колесні ліски? Дякую

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@ДимычДонской]

@@aaanton11 Have a good day! Please tell me from which car you have installed wheels? They look very bright!

[@Alex-qm6ig]

Rear springs: 1/10 difficulty. Front springs: 100/10 difficulty

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@rollthetape88]

chock the front wheels man!

[@aaanton11]

Why?? All good 👍🏻 Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@sfeath520]

Nice 👍

[@aaanton11]

Thanks Steven for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@sfeath520]

@@aaanton11 just a quick question. I have recently serviced my C1 and was wondering if you know Where the fuel filter is located 🤔

[@jackthomas2461]

@@sfeath520 there is a mesh filter in the fuel pump which needs the pump to be removed to clean and that is all

[@kevinbouchet3570]

😱 Il ne faut jamais serrer avec une clé à chocs , ça casse le filetage , il faut serrer au couple .

[@aaanton11]

Tighten what? the impact is a great tool, Thanks for the great information👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@h4rv3y_gaming_33]

Blaby bypass

[@aaanton11]

yep, Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@h4rv3y_gaming_33]

Love ur vids

[@h4rv3y_gaming_33]

When r u uploading next

[@aaanton11]

live tonight at 7.00 live giveaway Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@h4rv3y_gaming_33]

I missed it 😢

[@ОлексійЛяшок]

🇺🇦👍👏

[@aaanton11]

Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@marcogarofalo6343]

Imagine an axle stand taking the weight off of the other side of the anti roll bar you'd of been done for lunch 😂

[@aaanton11]

I have limited brain power sometimes, 😂 Thanks for the great comments👍🏻👍🏻🛠

[@marcogarofalo6343]

@SomeRandomName ideally for an easier job. I've made this same mistake myself, when I didn't know any better. The weighted side of the arb pulls the wishbone up, on the lifted side of the vehicle. Another option is to detach the arb link but it's a terrible idea lol