This is why you HAVE TO build on difficult terrain! | MC #35

[@VaingloriousGaming]

City Planner Plays: "I am not a detailer." Also City Planner Plays: proceeds to build one of the best looking beaches I've seen in the game to date.

[@matthewjmcnaughton]

CPP is honestly the Bob Ross of city building, so I'm not surprised.

[@LordKurst]

I'd like to hear what Emily Timmons has been up to. We voted for her to win but have barely heard anything about her or what she has planned

[@arushiiru]

She's just a governor in name! Sheila still holds the power in Magnolia County! Sheila had a lot of megaprojects and barely faced opposition.

[@nathangaytano1431]

@@arushiiru Well I mean isn't Governor Timmons literally Sheila's understudy before?

[@astrognash.]

Great build! For a name: for all that she claims to have moved on and be looking to brighter and better things, Sheila is still a little bitter about the outcome of her last election run and wants to make sure that her legacy as the first Governor of Superior is well-secured for years to come. Accordingly, she asks Russ to name the new development "Governor's Hill" so that its residents will remember Sheila Johnson's legacy of ambitious development instead of that pesky little fire. It remains to be seen if the dense tree canopy and lack of a fire station within the development will come back to bite her-let's hope Sheila is on better terms with Myrtle!

[@LtexprsGaming]

I really love that name. And its right next to Johnson Grove so its kinda funny to me.

[@edgingjogo]

thats really good act

[@moonlight-hm4bh]

I love it!

[@ZeusimusLukey99]

Love it.

[@SuperPieman42]

The locals are definitely going to call this one Fireman's Hill for the amount of times they'll have to climb it 😂

[@davidkehoe8743]

Here was me thinking that the canal would finally be an instance of CPP not smoothing edges

[@KodeeDentares]

Same! 😂 Those canal builders did a good job smoothing!

[@JarPlace]

can't you make one of those invisible parks to make people exercise and stuff on the beach?

[@rileyates]

This was my thought as well!

[@Huskie_BOSG]

I had the exact same thought

[@jameswiebe8956]

Phil - at 45:20 you started by putting trees all along the canal behind the residential houses. They are far too thick. The residents along there would specifically be wanting to see the stream/canal running behind their houses. That would also pump up the property value of all those houses.

[@moonlight-hm4bh]

Maybe they wouldn't because of the boat traffic noise, I guess that was what he was thinking about.

[@mAdCapper]

I came here to say the same thing. If I were buying along the canal or lake or river, I'd want to see it.

[@the-gas-station]

@@moonlight-hm4bh it would really only be suitable for small craft traffic - boat noise is a "feature" of a waterside home. :)

[@arizali_]

Another wonderful Magnolia County Episode. Thank you Suggestion: Maybe add some invisible paths to the beach parallel to the existing one. This way, people don’t need to walk in a single line.

[@tarablack3309]

A real jem of a neighborhood Did you add a dog park?

[@danilooliveira6580]

@@tarablack3309 I think he could also add parks and delete the assets, keeping the zoning, so people would start using it for activities like a park

[@raph485]

This might be more of a Florida beach thing, but we usually have restrooms/outdoor showers along the public beaches. Not sure if the asset exists, but a beach volleyball net/court would be a fun addition as well for the beach if possible. Also, I love all the trees!

[@leghumper83]

Was going to suggest this as well as adding in a couple of lifeguard towers.

[@hooimeijerf]

​@leghumper83 for a Beach this size, not too many though. Wouldn't want to make it look too much like a very busy seafront beach!

[@electric_alex]

we have all those here in greece too, great suggestions!!

[@leghumper83]

@@hooimeijerf Yeah, exactly. Also: a marina, since it was opened for boat traffic in the first place.

[@JackDaloots]

You made a special canal to connect the lakes, but you didn't make a boat launch? There should be a boat launch to get the boats in there!

[@CallMeInfinite0000]

PGH MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥💯 Fun Fact: Pittsburgh hosts the steepest street in the US; Canton Ave with a 37% grade.

[@Thatguyinyourclass]

another fun fact: has North America's longest running funicular

[@Kopa_Malphas]

I remember being in college in PA, and me and my buddy raced our bikes DOWN Arlington ave in Southside.

[@Chinemeremdozie]

I thought it was san francisco or paris

[@gbahhns]

greatest city in the world

[@fluxk7506]

​@@Thatguyinyourclass ITS CALLED THE INCLINE.

[@shailiha83]

Seems like the walking paths through those heavy forests would be dark and scary at night. Probably wouldn’t get much use unless some lights were installed.

[@SparkyTheSKUM]

It would add a lot to the nighttime aesthetic as well!

[@nighten_wt]

As for me, I think trees are a bit too tall (or a bit too dense) and kinda ruins the view from some buildings but other than that it looks really good! Great build!

[@sdkrzychu5374]

People moving in: Wow, what a great view! CPP: Lest's block it!

[@fifthturtle48]

Loved the Sheila Johnson Easter egg during the city tour😂

[@VanadiumBromide]

What's up y'all, it's Sheila Johnson and this is my crib.

[@twylanaythias]

Piedmont Terrace Long ago, when European settlers first came to this region, relations with native peoples was understandably tenuous. Among these settlers was a man named Zachariah Piedmont, who came with his wife and three young children; while the other settlers moved on, escaping to warmer climes before the onset of winter, Piedmont and his family remained. Some versions of the tale claim that their wagon broke down, some say the younger daughter got lost and they stayed to search for her, and others claim they were simply weary of travel and decided to stay put. For whatever reason, they remained and built a cabin near the lakeshore. Whether by necessity or because he was just that sort of man, Zachariah got along fairly well with the local tribes. He and his son were fairly skilled at fishing and would barter their catch in exchange for other things they needed. He would climb the highest point of that hill to watch for passing groups, waving to beckon them to come trade. Sadly, his wife passed in the spring from consumption and he lost his children to pneumonia over the next two winters. "He who watches and waves" remained for many years, continuing to barter what he could despite his declining health - happy just to have the company, however brief it might have been. No one knows what became of old Zachariah but legends claim that his spirit became one with that hill, where he continues to generously share his resources for the sake of companionship.

[@Notre-6]

44:10 you could add some watch towers or shomething looking like lifeguard towers for safety (along the beach)

[@frenchfriar]

Wow, blown away by this episode. Fantastic new neighborhood, but it's a shame that some of that high density housing can't see the lake for the density of the forest behind them. I'm glad you liked the Granny Flats story! Thanks for using it!

[@theorixlux]

Bad news guys, Phil is still allergic to quai walls and retaining walls. 🙃

[@danilooliveira6580]

I liked the rocks more, they look like disguised/decorated retaining walls. but there maybe be still some houses there that will be at a high risk of a landslide.

[@theorixlux]

@@danilooliveira6580 in some places, the rocks are great. The one with the long curved road up the hillside is nice. In most others, it looks wrong. There could've been extra development space and cool concrete walls. Though CPP covered the entire hillside with trees at the end we don't see much. So I guess my point is moot either way

[@daemonwise1]

At around the 45:00 min mark, you decorate the canal with boulders and rocks. That wouldn't happen, especially not with a canal designed to be only as deep as absolutely necessary for boat traffic and not an inch deeper. There's too much chance one of the rocks could dislodge and tear the bottom out of a boat (or otherwise make the canal impassable safely).

[@JBS319]

The hilltop neighborhood also looks like it would be a great area for a microtransit service of sorts, which you might be able to simulate with taxi stands. It might also be worth checking the taxi depots to see if you have enough taxis or if you need to expand.

[@fmartingorb]

I saw some wave decals... that always helps a bit with the beach look

[@RelentlesGamer]

As someone from Pittsburgh, I love you having taken some inspiration from the city. I just have a few recommendations from my own experiences to make it feel more like home to me. All around the Pittsburgh suburban area there are a ton of super steep drop offs. Walls that are 50 feet tall and essentially 90 degrees, even right behind residential homes, most of which come from the blasting that took place to build a lot of the infrastructure in the surrounding areas. So I would honestly increase the number of sheer cliffs in the area, and I’d definitely tone down the number of rocks you placed, areas like what you placed are essentially nonexistent in the city. Also, your comments about the steepness of the roads were funny, since you said that 14% was a lot. There are plenty of residential roads which are closer to 25%, especially in the Dormont area. There’s one road at 34% and it’s considered to be one of the steepest roads in the world. Also: your concerns about trucks getting up to the top aren’t very common. Why would an 18-wheeler drive into a fully residential development? My last suggestion would be to limit the number of ways up to the top of the hill. I know you were talking about not wanting to cul-de-sac the development, but in my experience an area the size of what you developed would likely only have 2-3 entrances up, and the connections would be absolutely horrible to drive on. Pittsburgh manages to have some of the worst street designs I’ve ever experienced, and a few minutes clicking around on street view would show you how horrible it is. Blind 180 degree turns, intersections of 6 roads, etc, are super common around here. I look forward to seeing the development of the town in the next few videos!

[@jackpubbo]

I think you might be able to make the trees a bit less dense without ruining the build. Then it will blend in more with the whole city

[@Harryhighdef]

Beaches aren't just areas that will attract an areas human residents, they are often covered in other life! Any way to get some birds down near the water? A fishing pier for perhaps for what is surely going to become a prime breeding spot for fish? The lake was probably prime wetland as well, so I could see concerned residents or larger goverments stepping it to get portions of it preserved for the nature it holds.

[@sncy5303]

I'd go with Lakeview Terrace. Lakeview to advertise the great views onto the lake and canal, terrace because the build reminds me of Machu Picchu' terrace development. Just missing some hillside farms ;)

[@Papiunruly1]

Think you should put a fence around Shelia’s house

[@epileptix8954]

There is no chance boats would pass under the bridge you made across the canal in the neighborhood. The drop you intentionally made in elevation under it to force the bridge drop as low as possible made it even worse. You gave almost 0 consideration to how boat traffic would move between the canal and I would really really urge you to look into how your average person with lakefront boat property, traverses bridge areas on a lake. I used to go boating a lot at a lake in virginia and even in smaller boats, any kind of roof rack can make bridge crossings an important consideration. I would ask that you reconsider aspects of this build if you can.

[@noahkohn9350]

You put a lot of trees behind the houses that back up onto the new canal. I would think that if I lived there, I would want a view of the waterway, even if I didn’t have direct access to it. Also, the homes on the hill might like to see the view. I mean, isn’t a bit ironic that the low income housing tower has the best views in the whole development?

[@KJP1226]

heya Phil! My main concern with this build is that you said you wanted boats to be able to pass underneath the bridges to other bodies of water, but the bridge closest to the development is very low. I doubt any boat could fit underneath other than maybe a kayaker. Also with all of the landscaping you've blocked the views haha

[@paulwilde7105]

as a sailing dinghy owner... that was my first thought. My mast isn't getting under that bridge. (tbf, a draw bridge or taller bridge would probably be more expensive than the govt would want to do though. Maybe if Sheila has a sailboat, she'd want that done though!)

[@jdzla]

A drawbridge would be quite appropriate. Or a rotating one (but this is kind of narrow)

[@Max_The_Sniff]

Magnolia county is the best CS2 series

[@redberra223]

That Canal just feels like an environmental disaster. Like what was the impact study for local fish populations. Local Wetlands Flora, is there invasve species in Lake michigan that are gonna immediately dominate the lake. Also what is the flood risk, it already feels like there was a flood risk with the lake being below ichigans water line, but now it's worse. It feels like SHeila's Legacy is one Heavy rain or Fast Snow melt after a heavy witer away from having her legacy ruined ;)

[@andrewswanepoel581]

Builds like this make me wish that CS2 had funiculars. They would work so well here

[@EternalGamingNet]

I really enjoyed this addition to the city. Because of all the grading work I'd expect the trees to be younger. Maybe also reduce the amount of trees by 20-25%.

[@vineousvondrake2456]

I think that you went a little heavy on the trees (again) might need to thin them out some plus you should have used hedges or bushes along the canal not trees and that one house would definitely want the trees removed so that they have the view. You also might want to check your road speeds that van in the tour almost tipped over in the roundabout. I think that the default name is perfectly fine no need to change it.

[@zwei_esfi]

51:30 Could you remove the grass on the right side of the road because I don't think it would be good for buses and the grass if the buses drive over it

[@nextel3253]

Where is the boat ramp and marina going to go? Maybe a pier? Maybe a water fountain in the pond by the shopping mall area?

[@psv-7071]

Nice build but maybe a bit to heavy with the trees. People like to have some nice views instead of a tree in there infront and at the back

[@danieljones8658]

can you make beaches into "parks" with no assets so people can go and sit on them or do whatever??

[@Recognice1]

Connecting those two bodies of water will kill all the animals in the lake ^^

[@aaronplace]

>building a lock >lets make this look more natural classic

[@SDGGames]

I think you should call the hill "Null Vista" since the trees block most of the views :D

[@TheTaxxor]

The parking lot roads sadly don't work well for pedestrians, they are all walking outside of the road next to the sidewalk. It seems the game still thinks that there is a part of road there, that also would explain why the zoning is so far apart from the road. You can increase the sidewalks to 3m and pedestrians will still be at the outer edge of the road but once you do 3.5m they shift towards the middle of the sidewalk. They have absolutely no problem with shoulders, but sidewalks don't work well outside of the standard 3.5m

[@judassuperstar1424]

Felt a bit heavy on the trees on first glance because, well, video game. But take a step back and it's by far the best place to live in Magnolia county. Great job Mr Planner.

[@who_is_artis]

53:38 your parking spots are backwards! notice how the solid line is by the road not by the sidewalk 😅 I guess in a way that could be intentional, as a design choice, but I'm just letting you know...

[@StabStabStabStabby]

You can add parks with activity nodes to the beach and delete all the props so you're just left with the activity nodes.

[@thatlooksgoodphotograghy]

the new district should be called “Whiskey Hill” it remind me of a area here i live where during prohibition and before it got populated it was where they used it to run bootleg whiskey out of since it was close to water and hard to get to so cop wouldn’t bother you to much.

[@PoplarPonderosa]

Having spent quite a bit of time working with water in the Editor, i was quite nervous about that canal. Im still wondering if its not going to keep filling up.

[@SparkyTheSKUM]

Same thought, travesty has the problem of being VERY long term... But we shall see!

[@Zanduby]

I would love to see some light posts added to the main walking paths between row home communities on the hill side. I know you don't view the city a lot at night, but I think it would make the area really stand out.

[@josephgibson9716]

You should make some dunes along Lake Superior and turn it into a state or national park.

[@MissMoonm]

Maybe the hill and the area around the lake has a bit of a rocky past? Like a lot of settlements up north, id imagine paradise bay is on land that was acquired through unethical means from the local Ojibwe people. This development could have inflamed old tensions, maybe even sparked a legal battle, ending with the city agreeing to pay the tribe for the land. Part of the deal could have been that Paradise Bay would build a native history museum/cultural center in the area and that the new neighborhood be given a native name- Bikwadinaa Onizhishin, meaning Pretty Hill.

[@shiraschon4217]

Pretty Hill!!!

[@JBS319]

As for neighborhood names, there are many place names in that part of the Midwest that are indigenous in origin, so if you can find anything that would fit with that region, it would be great to see.

[@meisterwilbur4520]

38:21 Who wouldn't like wet water 😁👍

[@Ahjusshi_Brown]

I’ve really been loving your use of the rocks for landscaping and detailing lately. Just really adds something extra to the beauty of the build

[@RedBear345]

Naming the hill top district: Assuming the inlet was historically important, the hill would have made a great spot for monitoring trade or military vessel activity in the protected harbor, as well as visual communication with "Signal Hill". Given the "Voyageur" namesake on the opposite shore, perhaps this is "Fort Voyageur". In the days of fur trade, a wooden palisade used to occupy the site of the new Elementary School, and it now fronts the street named for it's pioneering commander - "Paul-Frédéric Avenue". P.S. Love the use of armor rock for erosion control, throughout. Excellent solution to limiting the terrain smoothing, and I'll be stealing it :)

[@digitalmike330]

As someone who works on cell towers, you're being quite generous by providing paved roads to the cell sites. Typically, they are infrequently used and usually poorly maintained.

[@michaelspock]

I think some of the townhouses on the hills would have wanted better views of the beach. They would be wonderful views people would be likely to pay for! But I have to say this does remind me of the West Hills & Washington/Forest Park neighborhoods of Portland, OR. Forest Park is one of the largest urban forests in the US. Every wildfire season we all worry about it.

[@terrencemoore8739]

Great work! I do think you use too much manicured landscaping. I remember you talking about the difference between manicured and a more natural look but it feels like you only use the manicured look, every cliff must be covered with rocks, changed the grass color in a neighborhood I don't think it makes sense in considering all the unique elevations you decided to respect. You're great at manicured landscaping but it'd be great to see a bit more of a blend to really give neighborhoods their own personality

[@sarwasatsamuccaja1298]

Hello. Could you build an embankment between the lake and Hiddenbrook? That will prevent the water from reaching and flooding Hiddenbrook.

[@oleunis7921]

While I love this new storyline of Sheila and Paradise Bay, I wish we could return to bend and see what's happening to James and Jamila

[@kris6761]

This tickles my brain in the perfect way, love the editing and the story telling keep it up man, I'll have to go back and watch all the episodes.

[@bruhmomentcertifier]

maybe a bit too much trees

[@badandy1985]

Love how dense you made the Forrest, would like that more randomly all over specifically around the lake area

[@vriskaserket8137]

One of my favorite CS2 builds from you. Though I would say decrease trees a tiny bit.

[@Arkaine_]

Put small stalls on the beach. You can also define the entire beach as a park area using that tool beside the shovel icon.

[@SanskarDodya]

This comment was written before anyone could watch this video 😂😂😂🎉❤

[@mikejordan8051]

Oh yeah 🖤💛HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO!💛🖤

[@0Defensor0]

0:13 "World class transportation" you say? Seems more like a roller coaster to me, did Chuckles draw the plans for that rail?

[@Iniciolocke]

lol i saw that too

[@KatyBeaman]

GIVE BEND SOME LOVE!!!

[@Wani_2006]

Can you make a fully custom-made area? Every detailing part custom-made [House+Shops+Parking+Parks] …plzzzz... One of your subscribers is from Bangladesh.

[@chrismorgen8205]

imagine living downhill from one of those boulders

[@ThaJay]

They're all locked in with steel bars, nets and concrete. At least they would be in the Alps, I don't know about Canada.

[@Sereous313]

Why can't she just leave the beach alone and let people enjoy it lol. Not everything has to be overpopulated and developed.

[@timmie-b8d]

i feel like the beach needs the wave decals just to make them feel lively and not static. otherwise i'm absolutely loving the build

[@ThaJay]

Where would the waves come from on such a small lake?

[@timmie-b8d]

@@ThaJay even ponds have waves, the lake would only stay slightly still if it wasnt connected to the open waters

[@JamieAubrey]

Valentino Heights Once a quiet district on the outskirts of the city, Valentino Heights had transformed into a lively hub, thanks to the passionate efforts of its community. At the center of it all was the quaint Valentino Plaza, a cobblestone square adorned with colorful market stalls every Saturday. Local farmers showcased their fresh produce, while artisans displayed their crafts. Families gathered to enjoy the live music that filled the air, creating an atmosphere of joy and connection. Or something to that effect

[@kennethwehrs8924]

Maybe Rosewood Terrace should be Canal Terrace. It could be a nod to the canal that you originally had planned. Redemption for a failed infrastructure project. The triumph of human industriousness!

[@ShaunWilliams]

The very last fix you did and made the with parking custom road, you put the parking in the wrong direction.

[@youngmenaceent]

Name that new area Forest Ridge or Hill top Valley. Then u can put up Forest Ridge or Hill top Valley beach signs an u got names for your schools police an fire stations an more.

[@Phoenix84]

Still waiting for Bend to get an upgrade.

[@baskil]

This is a truly fantastic build. It's very inspiring.

[@flare2000x]

The dense trees are awesome, whole county should look like that! I also really like the riprap on the canal.

[@Fungi733]

53:39 The Parking spaces are facing the wrong way!

[@grassblizzard]

Got Bob ross vibes with that beautiful beach build

[@bradleydideriksen1709]

One of my favorite builds!! And the beach!!! Chef’s kiss 👨‍🍳😚

[@NuggetN]

As this is a Pittsburgh inspired neighborhood, you could name it after a Pittsburgh neighborhood, perhaps "Beechview" for the beach.

[@EAJ97]

Wow I haven’t seen the “too damn high” meme in a LONG time

[@Badger21288]

Name suggestion for the new development - Paradise Hills Straightforward and to the point.

[@timtammmo]

On the new parking road at the end the parking lane is pointed the wrong way

[@imjashingyou3461]

Respect the Topography = $1 billion in grading and earth moving and mountain top removal.

[@eoln_]

Since it was Sheila Jhonson's idea, and she was creative with this, Jhonsons dream, because she dreamed about this place

[@dracula3811]

Locks would be an excellent addition to the game! Think of the possibilities!

[@JimBones1990]

My first thought was to just add Villiage off the back-end of Rosewood Terrece, but then I thought why not just name it Kensington Villiage after a place near to where I spent the first six years of My life in Central CT.

[@Kanthalas]

I think the households on the hill will be calling out "BRING ME A SHRUBBERY!" as they can't see their magnificent view of the lake over the trees.

[@gpcovenant]

Technically wouldn’t the name hiddenbrooke be more appropriate if the city was hidden in the lake?

[@Zeraphimski]

23:54 Hillburgh - Quakers in the 1800s settled the area and it reminded them of home in Pennsylvania.

[@fashionforty]

I love the Landscaping. It's amazing. It's a beautiful jewel jsut hidden enough for the finder upon discovering it finds ever lasting love. It so speaks to having a symbiosis between modern development and respecting nature living alongside it not against it. This is now my favorite build from you Phil.

[@josephraymond4225]

Probably not going to see this comment but I'd love to have something named after my uncle Micheal. My wife and i got married at his property on may 4th of this year, and roughly a month after he passed away. He'll always hold such a special place in my heart and now in my marriage as he'll live in forever on our marriage lisence. I've watched this series from the beginning and have always thought it'd be such a beautiful place to live if it were real. So I'd love to continue to have his memory lived through something as beautiful as this.

[@jonatanargueta7858]

Name change from Rosewood Terrance: To: Vista Hills I think wall to wall mix use buildings along the beach road would look nice and maximize the profits for the developer. Maybe some beach volleyball courts too.

[@nzallround4723]

As a truck driver for well over 10+ years anything under 30% is nothing 13% is a daily cruise 😂😂 i get American drives are unskilled compared to us but this is not a abnormal thing

[@MadsFeierskov]

Adding a tiny Shiela to her house in the city tour is just the kind of thing I've come to expect from these videos 😂

[@Focus_Zero]

Really spectacular what you did with the beach. Really enjoying all of the new tools you can use. Wasnt expecting the new landscaping music, but it works really well.

[@Stryker218]

I had a cool idea for an elementary school area. i know your city is in desperate need of more. What about taking the original one and place 4 in a square. this way you get 4 full schools that would look like a single one. then you can place a park area in the center. Its inspired by my elementary school in Brooklyn which had a playground in the center. Sadly today it's gone and instead they built more classrooms over the existing playground. Im sure you could come up with something awesome.