CIVIL WAR Ending Explained

[@shamhoshino]

Lee saved Jessie in the beginning, she repaid that kindness by getting both Lee and Sammy dead.

[@xaujumper]

💯. I was pissed.

[@INKonPaper23]

Sammy’s death wasn’t anyone’s fault. when he backed the car up, he accidentally knocked into Jessie, giving her a concussion and causing her to fall into the mass grave. this is what gave rise the extra couple seconds of gunshots that the militia guys shot off. i don’t think it was Jessie’s fault for getting knocked into a mass grave and having a hard time climbing over corpses. nor do i think it was the fault Sammy’s quick thinking, which did objectively save everyone

[@Mittens_Gaming]

The thing is, Why didn't lee just tackle her or push her to the side. Also she's wearing kevlar. Its unclear if its just kevlar, or also has a plate. But the secret service is shooting with a 9mm pistol, and a 9mm MP-9, neither of which can penetrate a kevlar vest. She shouldn't be dead, as it does not appear she is shot in the head or neck, just a few rounds to the back, which would not penetrate her armor. Frustrating part of the film.

[@hashbrown7669]

@@INKonPaper23if she didn’t switch cars like a dumb ass that wouldn’t have happened she did too much

[@deserttoads]

@@INKonPaper23 That young girl reporter, was responsible for at least 4 or 5 people getting killed. I was very disappointed, that she survived the end of the movie.

[@22mph]

This movie is designed to teach us a lesson and that is “nobody wins in war” in the end the president is assassinated the western forces have won the troops are seen in good spirits with happy music in the background they’ve taken over DC but did they really win? The war left the entirety of America torn in pieces, many are left without home struggling to survive. Alot of death is yet to come as Western forces tries to get the rest of America to surrender. The whole country is like a lawless wasteland with no regard for human life. In the end nobody wins all that’s left is a still divided country and a dead president. The lack of information also contributes to the lesson as it’s not mentioned by anybody why they’re fighting it must not be a good reason showing that the war is pointless and nobody wins.

[@t3knoman00]

BINGO.... "War never changes" Also the point is regardless of reasons, an escalating tension, both sides should pause and say "is this worth the inevitable violence"

[@senoJSR]

LOL, the victors win. Besides, it's a fucking movie not reality.

[@JDorsey2451]

@@senoJSRthe point is that it can be reality. They’re already talking about going to war again.

[@fultonjackwaterloo4085]

They are fighting to remove a FASCIST. What don't you get about that?

[@fox1actual]

@@fultonjackwaterloo4085that word has been overused by chicken littles lately that it has lost all meaning.

[@cuzzo3d]

I've never hated a main character so much, I hate Jessie with a passion, got everyone killed

[@JennavieveRose]

Literally I hate this main character so much too. She was AWFUL, giving disrespectful comments and getting comfortable with the adults not showing them respect. I hope our future generations focus more on RESPECT and hard work combined. This character captured hard work but without respect, that little girl is just an asshole.

[@MenaPolicedepartment]

@@JennavieveRose It's a movie.

[@StephenHopkinsVaults]

The girls fault Lee died she stupidly put herself at risk multiple times to get photos . I wanted the film to be longer see more soldier civilian encounters

[@acrabadraca]

yes, and Lee chooses to die too

[@matty6878]

lee was tired. not just of war but the need to always be at the forefront of her taxing career. it took losing her friend/mentor to realize this, so by the end its up to jessie to either continue in lee's path or end it there knowing what she and lee has been through.

[@anonym1anonym243]

Yes, legends are saying that they are still shooting at Lee.

[@johndover7096]

just finished watching the movie, technically Lee is not dead because if you pay attention to what the secret service are using, they are using 9mm MP5 sub machine guns and Lee is wearing your typical level IIIA body armor which is rated for 9mm, 357 mag, 44 mag, and 12 gauge. I also dont understand why she had to just stand there and take the hits when she could of just hit the floor

[@jimjones9239]

If you pay attention all the shells on the floor next to Lee are blanks, the tip of the casing is crimped because there is never a bullet inserted.

[@YouEatFishSticks]

Buzzkill

[@MegaDoomcat]

Technically you are an idiot because technically this is a movie and technically you are supposed to suspend your disbelief. Technically this is a shitty comment from someone who wants to flex their technical knowledge on something unrelated to the film and completely missed the point of the whole thing. Technically it’s an ambiguous ending, but this is technically the least ambiguous aspect of it.

[@saltytaylor1908]

@@MegaDoomcat you feel better …. Was it worth it

[@renardfranse]

@@MegaDoomcat technically speaking LOL

[@ferventtrickster3362]

This movie needs a prequel & sequel

[@okezieonyeanusi9967]

Make it in your mind

[@kyloren1014]

No I like that it is nebulous

[@neofulcrum5013]

Or at the very least a comic on the factions. We didn’t get to see the Florida alliance or the New People’s Army.

[@hengzhou4566]

See them in reality.

[@Akenfelds1]

No prequel needed. That would spoil the original.

[@blank98]

The ending bugged me I just don’t buy that both of them at the end have absolutely no remorse over Kirsten Dunst death after saving her life

[@drn316]

Jessie wanted Kirsten Dunst to die for the money shot

[@fiyahspinnah]

That's what was a mind fuck about it. Did she intend for that to happen or was it a pure mistake from being ambitious and she became numb like her predecessor and kept moving forward avoiding feeling her pain?

[@DroMeetsPhoto]

​@@fiyahspinnahpersonally I feel like it's the latter.

[@fiyahspinnah]

@@DroMeetsPhoto Yeah, me too. I don't think she was conniving, but the way she didn't react was so brutal it felt sinister.

[@camgalloway691]

Probably didn’t want her to die but knowing if she died she’d want to be ready for it. I think that’s something the journalists in this film think about often. Filming the raw reality even the death of their own colleagues to get the message across. It’s so unlikely she did anything on purpose when she died

[@leonardobraynen1524]

​@@camgalloway691deep stuff.

[@stephennadal4103]

Jesse just let Lee die for her and didn't even check on her. What a good friend....I was hoping she would get shot in the end😅😅😅😅

[@Lightner445555555555]

Me too!

[@neofulcrum5013]

Honestly I liked it. The urban combat scenes were decently good. The horrors of war coming to a 1st world country is disturbing to imagine. I just wish it was a bit longer and the ending wasn’t so…abrupt. A post credit scene on what happens to the states now or where the journalists will go from here would have been nice. Otherwise 8.5/10 for me.

[@TL8311-j6x]

Dude it wasn't a marvel film, get out of here with your ticktock brain post credit scenes.

[@firstlast-wm3li]

​@@TL8311-j6xShut your heathen mouth.

[@Cund]

​@@TL8311-j6xPost credits scenes aren't exclusive to Marvel films anymore, and they serve as a simple yet effective way to entice people to watch the credits and give some extra bit of closure. It doesn't even have to be a scene either, just like a photo encapsulating the aftermath of the war or something like that, right after the photo of the soldiers.

[@neofulcrum5013]

@@Cundwell said

[@TheKevinNewsom]

Agree. Great except for the abrupt ending.

[@maxalburg5665]

I always thought the most realistic portrayal of a modern day Civil War was Euel Arden’s novel, Down Here in the Warmth. Great book. How can you go wrong with Militia on the streets of Manhattan.

[@neofulcrum5013]

I definitely gotta look into that

[@ryanthomas6063]

A book from 2020? Have they thoroughly thought about past events and occurrences?

[@ztorrazo1718]

will look into it

[@gravityfallscanada]

I hated Jessie, especially what she became in the end made me extremely angry... 😡

[@matty6878]

she was doing her job. she's no different than lee.

[@gravityfallscanada]

@@matty6878 That's why I'm angry... Look at Sammy he's been longer at the game than both of them and he still has a heart. This has nothing to do with doing their job...

[@rozinaali3785]

@@matty6878Lee and Jessie are not equals. Jessie was reckless and never understood how to listen. Lee was experienced and died trying to protect the thoughtless brain-dead dumbass.

[@Ray__E]

She became obsessed with her job and it cost Lee her life. Jesse was reckless and desperate to get the "perfect" shot

[@jammybot2529]

@@gravityfallscanadawas sammy the old black one? Yeah he was like the only likeable character

[@1619-k8n]

The Florida Alliance, and the Western Forces(Texas, and California), were doing the majority of the fighting against the remaining states of the Union which were mostly southern and east coast states.

[@1619-k8n]

@Nejourney78 There’s a map of the fictitious “civil war” America online.

[@Ray__E]

California and Texas have some of the largest military bases in the country. It makes sense they were doing most of the work in my opinion

[@rosdos100]

I want to know what the New People's Army was about, sounds commie lol

[@ErikPT]

@@rosdos100 a red herring by a 'false' flag by fake 'anarchy' factions

[@brianwhedon8442]

@@rosdos100 I still cannot figure out if the NPA and the "Oregon Maoists" are different names for the same faction or 2 different factions. Based on the map, the NPA controlled the Pacific NW all the way to the Dakotas.

[@jacobekker]

That's a VERY generous interpretation of: young character, ignorant of risk, causes death of own protector

[@BALL_BUZZ]

This movie confused the hell out of me. We don't know why anything is happening. Would have been an epic movie if it had a story.

[@22mph]

Movies don’t need a story to be great. I feel like the lack of story was not important to the lesson being told here.

[@BALL_BUZZ]

@@22mph You might is well watch a fortnite match if you don't want a story then.

[@22mph]

@@BALL_BUZZ it has meaning it is supposed to show the reality of war uncensored I got the point pretty clearly without the story. I don’t know what you were expecting because the movie trailer didn’t show any story at all.

[@theguywhoeditsthings7350]

The whole point is that we’re not supposed to know HOW the war started, it is just trying to send a message that we as a country should never get to this point. If it had a backstory, there would be political statements, which would cause bias and only certain audiences would watch it or listen to its message.

[@HellzDrifter]

@@BALL_BUZZAwh it confused your tiny brain bubba? Oh well. Sucks for you. Haha

[@TheKevinNewsom]

Good movie. Ending was abrupt. Would liked to have seen more from the President.

[@TheKevinNewsom]

@Nejourney78 I think the point was to show the horrors of (civil) war.

[@jamesmmcgill]

Ron Swanson’s first and second term are left unexplored.

[@jayvandusen8867]

Why would the president be hiding in his office and not the emergency bunker in the White House?

[@billandbraden1439]

Yeah not gonna lie he's like half the reason I saw the movie in the first place.

[@a.rpradipta7662]

@@jayvandusen8867because he the stupidest president ever exist , thas why civul war happenned

[@valmid5069]

*“I Remember the Secret Service Being Tougher”* -Red (2010)

[@lanebonnar9101]

President hiding under the oval office desk ? Bro?

[@deserttoads]

That young girl reporter, was responsible for at least 4 or 5 people getting killed. I was very disappointed, that she survived the end of the movie.

[@Arminius420]

I wish Kirsten would have let Jesse just get dropped, she was kind of annoying.

[@JennavieveRose]

absolute facts

[@Tovii2022]

The girl was the worst addition to a career venture they were fully prepared to tackle head on because they were experienced. This girl brought new energy and it caused the men to act differently that clouded their better judgement which lands her in situations she was not mentally prepared for and when she got eager to race to the end she got her mentor killed. Lee was a great character tough, honest, and forward. She deserved a better team and so did the older man.

[@Swecan76]

You say the President had "fascist" beliefs. What makes it 'fascist'. I never heard anything in the movie pointing towards that. More like he was overstaying his two terms and now in a third term. There was literally nothing else as information. He could have been any political side, but he just became dictatorial. I don't even know on what side the red glasses Jesse Plemmons was on. Was he loyalist? US military under the President? Florida alliance. It was never made clear. Those were slightly annoying. I don't need to know the politics, but I kind of just wanted to know what side some of these groups were on. At the end of the movie it also just ends so Western forces winning doesn't mean end of the civil war or that things will be better. But that was Garland's point. That civil war is bad and no one should want it.

[@j.j.3349]

I think they mentioned that he was with the government forces...when they were trying to figure out if any of the dead bodies in the back of the dump truck were wearing uniforms.

[@imreallynoob8311]

I thought they said he wasnt a federal troop tho?

[@InterplanarerPennersoeldner65]

He dissolved the FBI, bombed American citizens and had three, likely illegal terms are the only info were given. Sounds pretty fascist to me tbh

[@InterplanarerPennersoeldner65]

Govt troops were said to gun down journalists. Thats some pretty fashy stuff if you ask me.

[@candyfordinner7216]

I think it's interesting that Jesse Plemons' character and his buddies weren't wearing any kevlar or patches signifying their allegiance. My headcanon is that the red sunglasses character and his comrades were members of the Proud Boys or a different far right group who decided to start racial cleansing while they could

[@fernando9260]

In one scene Jessie asks Lee "If I die, would you take a picture of me?" and she responds "what do you think?" funny thing it was the other way around.

[@Spirosbotos]

To me this movie is just showing the absurdity of war

[@jacobruiz97]

That’s exactly the purpose of the film

[@Spirosbotos]

@@jacobruiz97 I loved it

[@erfan6322]

Dude who will win at the end of this movie exactly?

[@Spirosbotos]

@@erfan6322 we see the collapse of America as a global super power nobody wins

[@balapadmanabhan5705]

​@@erfan6322No one wins. That's the point of the film.

[@Drew-ih6uj]

You made a wholeass video opining on shit that wasn’t even the point of the movie. This is a true masterclass in missing the whole goddam point.

[@saywhat2014]

The idea that California and Texas could agree on anything let alone be on the same side in a civil conflict is even dumber than this movie.

[@imsirlancelot2842]

Ironic Mary Jane had to be a photographer now 💀

[@DJKinney]

The ending doesn't need to be "explained." Nor is the apparently crappy ai voice appreciated. EDIT: I'll even let Sammy explain it right in the movie. "It's the race to Berlin."

[@Patrick-fg7rm]

Am I the only one who thinks they actually could have gone harder in the film? I kept reading how horrifying the movie is but was rather underwhelmed.

[@Imakebootysclap]

Yeah the road was more of a o shit kinda movie that this was. Not once was I left like dam! It was all expected and underwhelming.

[@fiyahspinnah]

That's one of the points the movie was making. The journalists are numb to the horrors. So are you as a viewer. It disconnects us from empathy to not see this as tragic.

[@ANTIStraussian]

​@@Imakebootysclapthat's what a civil war would be. Pockets disconnected from the war. It's a movie about photo journalism not the war itself.

[@ZaMahx]

Congratulations, you're numb to seeing your fellow countrymen die assuming you're American. Yes its fiction, but everything in the movie is trying to show us what will happen if we allow it to get this bad. When the girl photographs the Helicopter at the JCpenny, shes taking a picture directly of the audience. Only a numb and demoralized people can allow this to happen. The politics don't matter while you're running from a killer drone swarm.

[@scniors]

i expected too much for this movie...so much talk about the mass grave scene....a small dot compared to the village scene from platoon....

[@cloracle4420]

In real life the president would be much more insulated. To my knowledge there are tunnels underneath the White House in DC.

[@clydeallen738]

this movie didn’t even tell you enough about the president to label him a fascist

[@lildebbie1674]

They were very vague about it, but what I gathered the president ran for a third term, disbanded the fbi, and used lethal force to put down protesters. For me, that’s enough to label him as a fascist, but I wish they were more clear about it instead of dropping this information in the background.

[@j.j.3349]

@@lildebbie1674 there is a guy sitting over in Moscow right now who has done just about the same as what is depicted by the president in this movie, and that dude in the Kremlin is a socialist.

[@j.haberberger9248]

​@@j.j.3349no. Putin is straight up fascist. Racist towards Ukraine and starting a war to destroy Ukraine and its culture.

[@clydeallen738]

@@lildebbie1674 why did 30 states stay loyal? what did texas and california do …even better what did he claim these rebels did? i assume the president controls the msm just not these journalists.

[@silentrage8961]

​@@lildebbie1674Disbanding a police force is Fascist? What??? So if Hitler disbanded the SS it would have made him more Fascist ? If Stalin disbanded the KGB it would have made him less of a Tyrannical dictator?? Stupid comment. You must be Democrat 🏳️‍🌈

[@Swecan76]

He REALLY keeps the movie vague as the politics go. If you look at it the "loyalist" states would be basically "blue states" in real life. Florida alliance would be mostly Red states and so would Texas. California clearly a blue state. So the President in office doesn't seem likely to actually be conservative given the "loyalist" states supporting him. But that is Garland's point or trick it's all just a jumbled incoherent mess to have any clear cut politics of which party is which etc. He mostly just wanted to show horror of civil war. I mean the actions on all sides are pretty bad and brutal. Of course some worse than others like the Jesse guy. But at the same times, the Western forces just execute everyone in their way, no trials or surrender etc either. I just watched if for the scenes of craziness of seeing a civil war in USA etc.

[@j.j.3349]

Looking at the makeup of the Western forces, it appears as if the majority of the US military has gone over to them. The Chinook helicopter, which was hooking up to a Humvee, had the 1st Air Cavalry patch on its nose. Also, there was a mixture of army, marine, and maybe navy seals involved in the attack on the White House.

[@avioncamper]

What is China, Russia, DPRK and NATO doing during this war?

[@christoferrodriguez7672]

They will try to invade civil war america 😹😹😹😹

[@abcdefghi384]

Popcorn

[@InterplanarerPennersoeldner65]

Playing DnD

[@JR-kx3jr]

If the United States was preoccupied with a domestic conflict, you can bet Russia would be reclaiming more of its former territory, and China would take Taiwan.

[@simo9732]

Putting bets who going to win

[@colettewilliams3575]

Aren’t they forgetting about the Vice President? And who controls the nukes?

[@RoyCyberPunk]

It seems that the president was given absolute power over everything including the nukes. I mean we don't even see an active congress in the movie so basically a nation with most of the bulk of the military throwing allegiance to the main resistance to the dictator president.

[@isaacho8230]

The nukes are manned on site in silos across the country which are controlled by the States.

[@CantonBn]

As far as nukes are concerned, the president doesn't just push a button that lunches them, there are a dozen people in between who can stop it right down to the missile men, sub commanders and bomber crews, not to mention all the people in between. Also those service members and everyone in chain, are from all over the US, they are not going to nuke any part of it killing the families of people in the chain. AS far as Thomas J. Williams, the next in chain is SecDef, not VP, and here is the issue as to whether VP would be recognized or obeyed

[@matty6878]

@Nejourney78 that makes sense. they also shot, what i think, the SotH so its safe to assume they cleared out the next 3-5 next seats for prez and anyone living next in line aren't going to try.

[@Hashtiger]

And what about navy?

[@cameraman655]

The Texas/California alliance would likely have been one of completing a singular goal. Once accomplished much like what happened upon the defeat of the Nazis in 1945 the US/Soviet split, this alliance will probably sever as well, both going back to their pre-war politics and hostilities possibly igniting a new Cold War within the borders of the US.

[@ryanbrooks5482]

I didn’t see the movie but realistically the Florida alliance should be stronger then California or Texas. What we’re the Carolinas doing in the movie?

[@cameraman655]

@@ryanbrooks5482 The film I believe hits the theatres tomorrow, I have yet to see either. That said, most reviews are positive, one thing that seems to be an area of agreement is that the film leaves you with more questions than answers.

[@ryanbrooks5482]

@@cameraman655 yeah idk I live in Florida I was just wondering wtf we doing during this. When I was reading about it they didn’t even mention the Florida alliance or what their whole deal was.

[@jacobruiz97]

Or rather they would descend into further civil war.

[@Red-vm2vu]

The strongest will be the Republic of Texas

[@fleurdelis1227]

Well that didn’t explain shit.

[@Naija2deworld]

The girl with them ruined the fun of the movie. The little brat got everyone killed, including Lee. Her role annoys me. Is the beast really that easy to destroy? Is it possible that the White House doesn't have an underground escape system known only to the president for emergencies like this? And why does it have to be the black soldiers who must kill the president? And what was the rest of the world like China, Russia and expecially NATO allies doing during this war... Overall, I think its a great movie in terms of picture quality, but story line with basic info is completely zero so with your permission, I rate this movie 3/10 and that is me being considerate.

[@thehunterstruck]

I actually enjoyed this film.. the still shots from the press were a nice shot. By looking at how the western forces did things they were all active duty or reserve troops either in the bases in those states or guard units from those states. Lee’s death was as more expected because the foreshadowing was constant throughout. I still can’t stand Jessie tho least favorite character of the movie.

[@jamesnoonan2009]

Texas would never align itself with California, they are too different politically

[@jpablo700]

Texas is aligned with California right now. You're foolish to think otherwise. Both states know what they're doing... but go ahead and take the politician's bite to *think* we're divided while they continue to make deals with each other behind closed doors.

[@FunnieApple]

The only ones who care about political ideals are the naive public, those in power in both states care about one thing and one thing only and that's money. They leave the political squabbles to dolts like you and me.

[@Bigd40589]

You didn't get how this garbage movie was portrayed, western forces are liberals of california and taxes and their armies united, going up again Trump style government

[@Mr1Alex91]

They’re actually pretty similar in a way, only they’re major cities are left leaning all of they’re rural areas are mostly right leaning

[@Red-vm2vu]

The movie is for stupid people, created for the sake of propaganda, that Texas and California are savages and not people, in reality, if Texas and California wanted to become independent from the U.S., they would have forced the president of the U.S. to sign a document on their independence, not kill him) very funny movie.

[@Justoone2]

This movie was better than the initial response when it came out

[@austineschofield]

The Western Forces might have defeated the Union forces but they still have to deal with the Florida Alliance and the New People's Army. Assuming the WF does defeat the FA and NPA and don't tear themselves apart in the process they still have to get to the hard part by dealing with the obvious insurgency all across America. What most likely happens next is another ten to twenty years of War and insurgency ultimately ending with a very fragile peace and a high probability that not all of the territory that made up the former US joins the new union under the Western Forces if they are even still around.

[@SingularityMedia]

Seems people are missing something important. Lee basically said Jessie was putting herself in danger at her own choice, and that Lee may even dpcument her death. By the end though, rather than documenting jessies death, she saves her life, and has her own desth documented.

[@longtang5708]

This would have been a better TV series

[@M3Lucky]

Agreed- a single season series

[@Sam-yf4kt]

No it’s perfect as is. Not everything needs answers. It makes you off guard

[@M3Lucky]

@@Sam-yf4kt who said a series provides answers? I think there's so much more room to explore the themes of this movie via a TV series. That doesn't mean it has to provide context that Garland deliberately omitted

[@christoferrodriguez7672]

Nope this needs a sequel

[@ArtAttack98]

Why does nowadays everything need to be made into an eight episode Netflix crap show? Why can’t we just embrace the magic of films?

[@miajume6089]

Jessie is responsible for tony & bahoi & Sammy & Lee death, all of these death, Sammy and Lee died protecting jessie the same way

[@frederickstuart7495]

The movie felt so surreal, knowing rising division in the country. Although there are many questions left an answered, I felt that the point wasn’t to show how they got there, but rather the consequences, and effects of what could happen when a nation becomes so divided, particularly from the eyes of someone who has no dog in the fight, journalist are called to be impartial.

[@eyevincast5440]

Lesson is don’t risk your life for Jessie

[@joshhickson7551]

I don't like that you used an AI voiceover; it really puts the 'mono' in monologue.

[@rayalvarez7247]

A rough draft provided by your local Government. You're welcome.

[@KrazyJohnny]

Great idea for a movie needed to have 3 parts but the writing was horrible and actor's were boring.

[@D.M.S.]

The ending was forced. They could just have moved out of the fire. It was unnecessary and predictable. Every death was. I think most of the nation already didn't participate, not even whole D.C. was part of the fighting. If the Western Forces reinstate the original USA with a reformed constitution, that would make impeachment easier, the country could heal again. After that the hunt for war criminals begins. The universal pardon after the first civil war is one reason for the current division after all. And was probably the biggest mistake Lincolns. Even though it was an understandable one. But criminals on both sides could just move on and became influential spreaders of hatred and propaganda that poisoned the minds of future generations. I mean, I read history books of several different states. Every single one is political colored and none of them actually portrait real scientific conclusions. For example: there are school texts from the South that are scientifically wrong and ignore historical documents that falsify their claims and they still teach it. That's just morally wrong, no matter how you look at it. No matter what political opinion you have. Fact is the Founding Fathers intended the current system on the premises that future leaders are integer people, with a political well educated population. People like Nixon, Clinton, Bush or Trump (I don't try to be political here) who use every grey are they can find and the current division of the political parties, because of politically biased media (like FOX and CNN) and social media algorithms (pretty much all of them), were never part of that picture they have drawn for their nation. The current political structure is not able to handle that sort of pressure and societal change and needs to be modernised. English is not my native language, so please forgive spelling errors. I'm from Germany and we also have political problems, but our democracy is younger. We had time to learn from failures and created a political structure that is somewhat able to adept to current times. Yes, there is discussion and worse, but it seems to be goal oriented. Sadly, I don't see that in the US anymore. Only, ideological and profit driven infighting. No matter of Republican or Democrats.

[@a.d.3606]

Good points made and you seem to understand the country well! But then again... you're not an American. o__o

[@robertleach230]

So Jessie started the war

[@tylere.8436]

Jessie's actions led to most of the main characters dying, so there's that

[@MRsolidcolor]

its a 3 out of 5... it could have been epic.. there is no body to the story it feels rushed. this could have been a multi season or deal or just a fantastic 2.5 hr movie.. but no... you get a meh k i didnt wast money here....

[@MrEddie-ml6wm]

Best movie I've seen since Endgame

[@SPACE-98]

Since endgame is crazy but respect

[@BALL_BUZZ]

Can we even call it a movie with no story

[@trevorwalton5431]

What about Dune 2 ?

[@pointenone]

Endgame sucked

[@mr2uinitio]

@@pointenone yeah, endgame wasn't the best marvel movie.

[@WendyKroyy]

The most ridiculous movie ever made

[@ericwong4213]

Just watched this movie and I was like.... everyone is black and white, where's asian? Until nearly the end of video I was like.... oh... that's why.

[@bhagyaveer]

This movie can give birth to many other movies which give different perspectives!

[@andymcbenson1426]

I think “and then he kissed me” would’ve been the perfect song to end it on

[@Zodiac3107]

Ending explained: President copped some chrome to the dome.

[@chefbrittan84]

Crazy to have a movie with war in the title, and not show much “war scenes”, explain how it started, who was in charge of the resistance, etc. This movie was trash as far as a war movie goes. It would be like going to watch the Titanic movie and all the whole movie is-is people getting on the boat.

[@lokokrz.gaming]

Why does someone always have to be I'm charge of a group.

[@kylecollins5463]

If a civil war happened. Nobody would really know how it started

[@kylesmith9944]

Civil War was an ok movie, however, the script, specifically the backstory did not explain enough about how the conflict started. The story didn't address any political questions about why the Civil War occurred because the President's character, the main antagonist was not developed. If you have a great actor like Nic Offerman then use him. The Western Forces also needed a character to explain why Texas and California succeeded from the USA. The journalist's screen time should have been cut down drastically in the movie. Civil Movie had too many unanswered questions.

[@joshsny143]

That would be a different movie though. That could be a good movie where the politics take center stage but that would just alienate half the country. This movie is working on a different level.

[@frederickstuart7495]

Yeah, the point wasn’t to show how they got there, but rather the consequences, and effects of what could happen when a nation becomes so divided, particularly from the eyes of someone who has no dog in the fight, journalist are called to be impartial

[@dubkstylex2405]

“A future U.S.”.. Buddy.. We’re more then half way close to a similar situation.. Unfortunately… Just vote red or blue - Just do your due diligence your civic duty as an American Citizen and stand up for what is right even if it’s against your ‘beliefs’ despite what party you’re aligned with.

[@landofthesilverpath5823]

Would have been more realistic if it depicted strategic bombing, in reality, both sides would be bombing their cities to oblivion. D.C would look like Stalingrad by the time the rebels got there.

[@i3kunosensou575]

my reaction was like cat huh "huh?'

[@howardskillington4445]

Can anyone actually need to have this guy explain the perfectly clear ending we have just watched. Why is he doing this?

[@TheTongMan]

The siege on DC was pretty awesome. FJB!!

[@MLI0369]

You notice how they used a President that is “trump like”? There are so many small things to pick up on this film. If this wasn’t a blue favored movie it wouldn’t have made it to theaters

[@j.j.3349]

@@MLI0369 Texas would not be overthrowing a right-wing president.

[@christopherpekel6096]

​@@MLI0369trump like how? Because he's white and male?

[@tylere.8436]

Narratively speaking it was dumb; the president wouldn't be lingering in the Capitol during a direct attack.

[@jasonleetaiwan]

Cool concept but poorly executed narrative.

[@cowetascore8476]

I hated every character in this movie and COULD NOT CARE who lived or died. What a stupid movie.

[@shawnchristopher6993]

The movie doesn't even mention anything about the president at all

[@jeffGordon852]

Good episode of a 5 seasons tv show!! 9/10

[@jenniferknepp5090]

Those that break it down have seen NO horrors.

[@brose2323]

I like how this movie is politically neutral. It doesnt delve into the cause of the war but the effects of the war on the population.

[@hankhill2573]

Nah this movie was great if you know about photography

[@scottishgeekguy]

agreed

[@ihopeyouheal]

Maybe, but the blank shell casings on the floor ruined it for me

[@cowetascore8476]

I know photography and it was idiotic.

[@balapadmanabhan5705]

​@@ihopeyouhealwhat are you smoking?

[@supersasquatch]

i was really impressed by the president's performance

[@JellybeanPink2488]

I feel Lee isn’t dead. I think she let Jessie have the shot. She had a vest. There was no blood she had a vest.

[@kellydiaz]

The AI narration for this video is terrible.

[@commander_cody841]

I kind of don’t get why she didn’t dive with her when she tackled her, like why push and just stand there

[@harryc1971]

It gets slated because it does not choose a (current political) side and simply wants to tell a story, will get around to watching it at some point.

[@RJS-g5c]

t's NOT going to be a Civil War, but A Clean-Up ->>>The Enemy - EPH 6: 12; >>>The Start - Matt.24: 12-14; >>> Step ONE of The Process Matt 24: 21,22: (The Chosen Ones are Rescued) See Rev 7: 9, 13,14) Step TWO of the Process 1 Corinthians: 24,25 see also Daniel 2: 44 >>> THE REAL RESET Revelation 21: 1-4 . WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING HAS TO HAPPEN 1ST BIBLE Prophecy Gen. 3:15 We are coming up on the END of this 7TH DAY se Gen Chapter 2. Peace Brother.

[@Airmanmx1]

Unclear everything to leave room for future movies. Get used to it

[@pryncecharming2133]

This movie echoes our current reality and it left me shaken when I walked out of the theater.

[@scniors]

i expected too much for this movie...so much talk about the mass brave scene....a small dot compared to the village scene from platoon....

[@alejandroaguilar9038]

!!! PRESIDENTS 3RD TERM IS THE REASON !!!

[@pooroflevi]

🎯

[@Zachary77]

Obama's third term using Biden as a puppet sure has gone down hill fast. If things don't change for the better quick fast and in a hurry, this movie won't be a fiction.

[@foggylake]

@@poorofleviexactly. aside from the context being the real life social and economic tensions were facing today it was most likely the presidents 3rd term and the bombings of american civilians that started the war

[@A21_Edits]

Ending? I just watched it. There isn't a ending no resolution to it no explanation to why there was a civil war. I sometimes like movies like this but no storyline I just watched the beginning and skipped to the end.

[@TheLonerr]

I just saw it i found the ending bleak.My pa didnt like that there was a huge hiatus like a road trip. He said it was illogical was the president necessarily bad? I told him that war isnt a battlefield its like come and see what u see everyday as u walk. I found it satisfying although it could have shown more.That scene with todd was bonechilling.

[@VultureXV]

This movie is actually anti media and that's an angle i wasn't expecting.

[@eportillo12]

Please stop using AI narration. Until you do, I won't be coming back.

[@thereportoftheweek787]

How will you know he stopped if you never come back?

[@OWL1177]

This movie does not explain the cause of the coming US Civil War, which should be the reason why Garland made this movie. One must know the conflicts and root causes that led up to the coming civil war. Without an explanation, the movie story flops. It is not realistic, and no one knows the cause of why they are fighting, who the enemy is, and why the US government became so authoritarian. No one knows how biased the US military is toward one side or the other. No one knows what triggered the civil war. California and Texas currently have extremely opposing political views and would never join forces against the US government if they continued to be political foes. No one knows how a new civil war will make the US vulnerable to foreign aggression if China takes over Taiwan or if Russia takes over the former Soviet-block countries while the US is in a civil war. No one knows realistically what states will secede from the union or how they will form a united army to defend themselves against the Federal government. The movie mentions nothing about the Constitution or what happened to the three branches of government. For a very probable and realistic cause of another US Civil War, read "The Coming Tyranny: How Socialism Will Lead to Civil War in the United States."

[@RandySchmidt-bd5nj]

Funny how they made him look like Trump

[@LowTide941]

If they wanted that they would paint him orange

[@kidlatkimat6572]

if you think about it the actor Wagner Moura who also played Pablo Escobar in "Narcos" should've been in the last shot in the ending, its ironic to the ending Narcos where he(pablo escobar) he was the one lying dead and military who captured him were celebrating in that picture 🤣

[@kevinjhonson5925]

The film had so much potential but failed to deliver in any meaningful way.

[@thedarkpototoy3642]

Gas pumpers: conservative rebels First battle scene: conservative rebels vs loyalist democrats. “What kind of American are you?” soldiers: Right Wing extremists President’s negotiator: Karin Jean Pierre 3-term president: Biden This movie is easy to decipher, way too easy.

[@colettewilliams3575]

Biden has never said anything about a 3rd term. You know who has? Trump and his supporters.

[@thedarkpototoy3642]

@@colettewilliams3575 wouldn’t make sense if it was Trump imo. The map 🗺️ of civil war A24 movie suggests a democratic turned fascist dictatorship.

[@chrisrodriguez388]

@@colettewilliams3575Trump and their supporters never said that either. Show us on the doll where the bad orange man hurt you. 😂

[@alejandroaguilar9038]

YOU FORGOT BOOGALOO BOYZ

[@CantonBn]

@@colettewilliams3575 please do tell where Trump said that. Give a date and place.

[@matteocoda6368]

The movie Homer and Mel Gibson never got to make.

[@DamonBlake-lw5gv]

It needs a prequel, a sequel and a sequel sequel. Double sequel. Maybe a double prequel.

[@blackTea8]

I seen this today and I still don’t know who the western forces are? Still don’t know why it’s going on ?

[@imWillJ]

In real life if this happens that's how it's going to feel for some people, some citizens are going to be confused on what's going on

[@Cund]

They straight up said at the beginning that it's an alliance of California and Texas.

[@alejandroaguilar9038]

THE PRESIDENTS 3RD TERM

[@johnwolfenden7599]

That's the point, my friend

[@blackTea8]

@@Cund I heard that , just wasn’t putting it together

[@giftofgab7777]

Why did Lee just push her and stand there and die? Why didn’t she tackle her? She’s a war journalist? You’d think she’d know that. Garbage

[@mr.z3161]

Does the movie explain why the govt failed and when?

[@rosdos100]

No. I dont know if you've read the other comments but the movie is a pov from the journalists. You only know what they know in that sense and only find out what they find out.

[@bicyclethief]

the huge mistake with this movie is that these journalists were front & center of the story when the civil war should've been. the military fighting in DC, straight into the white house was shocking and riveting to watch. that was far more interesting--and what ppl came to see--than this dumb coming-of-age story that took up 3/4th of the film

[@Mikaisafk]

This movie was not what I expected. Pretty trash… writing, acting all of it.

[@texasrightrepair]

Lets look at this movies in another angle.why go through all this would it have been easier to assassinate the dictator instead of going to war? What do yall think about it