CIVIL WAR MOVIE REVIEW 2024 | Double Toasted

CIVIL WAR MOVIE REVIEW 2024 | Double Toasted - Today at Double Toasted we have our Civil War movie review. In this funny video, we look at the Civil War trailer before going in-depth into our Civil War review. We discuss the direction, the political aspects, the performances and more! What did you think of Civil War? Let us know in the comment section below.
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[@badman3000]

Korey is over here dressed like he's living la vida loca. And Martin is dressed like he's getting ready for a run DMC tour.

[@tyronegreen1961]

Yeah he dressed like he's muling cocaine for Escobar 😂

[@liizzset]

🤣🤣😂😂

[@shettywap]

Woke up in new york cittaaaaay

[@_michaelfaith]

😭😭😭

[@Rebecca-GLaines]

😂😂 w his press badge 😂 Grabs his badge while being shot at! So stupid lmao

[@thedumbguncollector5546]

“I really think Pedro pascal and James Earl jones were great in this movie.” Literally laughed out loud.

[@IJAMSOWHAT]

you got jokes

[@rmarkley79]

**SPOILER ALERT** Just kidding, that was great, haha!

[@PoyTroy]

Ima tell my grandkids this was Pablo Escobar and James Earl Jones

[@replicacity92]

Lmao

[@KingGreqo]

RIP James Earl Jones

[@stanpoess]

I work at a theater and an older couple came (in their late 70s) to see the move and left because they thought it was about the civil war

[@sidney1234usc]

Literally I seen three people that came in together that were at least in their '70s probably older that came into the movie thinking it was about civil war lol boy were they mistaken

[@CLDJ227]

Easy mistake to make lol.

[@VYBEKAT]

🤔easy mistake??? How senile does one have to be to do this?

[@Jhayzer021]

Asking or checking the trailer of the movie will make a diff., how naive can they be. smh

[@mhawang8204]

@@Jhayzer021 Lots of people actively avoid trailers and go into a movie cold

[@thedumbguncollector5546]

Movie was great and very unsettling. I think the lack of current politics was smart. If they just made this movie about Trump being Hitler or Biden being a commie it would have distracted the core message which is war is insane. I hear so many people talking about civil war now like it is cool. The snipers said it best “he is shooting at us and we are shooting at him.”

[@DeezNuts-wg2vj]

America wouldn’t survive a civil war as a country because we have to many outside enemies that’ll take advantage of our disunity like Russia, China, Isis, Al queada etc.

[@Cajek2]

We would NEVER team up with Texas - at least not until they get rid of Cruz

[@daallahw0lf130]

​@@Cajek2 Bro wat? 😂💀

[@thedumbguncollector5546]

@@Cajek2 it’s fiction

[@lurkingposter]

Nah, that comes across as spineless to me. It's obvious which groups want to do a civil war and end democracy. This both sides BS is why the US is so fucked in the first place.

[@JurassicJoey17]

The thumbnail says you guys thought this was tense, but then in the actual video, you kind of just talked about how it was mostly boring 😂

[@EchoJ]

Allow me to introduce you to Mr. Clickbait Title

[@zainmudassir2964]

Intensely boring and apolitical to it's detriment

[@ricardotejeda6530]

Also, something to note is that California and Texas are far more politically representative of each other than they let on through the surface. California has a ton of red districts and has historically been at the forefront of political unrest, with movements even turning violent. It just so happens that the major population zones of California are liberal, which tilts its scales in elections. Something else to remember is that during the peak of western settlements, a lot of racists and bigots made their way out west and into California. In the 1920s, places like Oregon were hotbeds for Klan activity and they spread like wildfire there. So, all that to give a little context as to why Texas and California might form an alliance.

[@shamonrp]

"I was captivated by the scene where the gentleman questioned, 'What type of American are you?' The weariness of the Black gentleman accompanying them to help their friends resonated deeply. It speaks to the instinct many Black individuals possess in a country where others, ignorant of its history, may choose to overlook certain truths. Well portrayed and an insightful nod to the complexities of racial dynamics."

[@replicacity92]

lol you know all races have had problems on this earth. Do you know how long our history has been going?

[@jongon0848]

Personally speaking as a photojournalist, I loved the film. I felt like the war itself wasn't really a glimpse of the future, but more of a reflection of how we behave in the world right now. Especially with all the war that's going on, how most people pretend it doesn't exist because it doesn't inconvenience them. The film was pretty much saying war photographers elevate themselves on the corpses of those they take pictures of. But also acknowledging the importance it is to capture these horrific moments, since they exist to remind us of the inhumanity that exists in the world. The movie itself isn't just about the images, or the Wikipedia pages, but what's left off the pages.

[@hendrsb33]

I haven't seen this movie yet, but I figure it's a "be careful what you wish for" cautionary tale for those who openly call for civil war in America. What violence media shows us from other countries are sanitized versions of what could happen here.

[@Dave0G]

Bang on the nose (which the film is too).

[@lizzardwizard2000]

Don’t bother unless you would like a Donald Trump snuff film. Spoiler alert!

[@Ugarte966]

@@lizzardwizard2000you obviously didn’t see it if you think it’s a depiction of Trump

[@cflash2785]

The movie isn't what people think it's about. It's not about civil war. It's about Kirsten Dunst's character and her PTSD of coming to the realization of why she does what she does and how she has "lost herself". The civil war is just there. The mirror of her and the younger photographer and her path is the key. The marketing is off.

[@kerry-j4m]

You're correct about sanitized versions the media shows of war/conflict from other countries,trust me you don't want to see the gruesome stuff.I did 4 deployments to Iraq with the Texas Guard ( I was in Infantry units ) I saw all the -CARNAGE-up close and personal and it wasn't pretty. It was horrific.

[@FrontlinersEntertainmentNYC]

I think everyone in America needs to watch this movie, if only just to show WHY we should NEVER have an internal war amongst ourselves. Yes there are all these rumors of civil war, but this is a prime example of why this should never happen. #cotterhateseverything

[@Browneye475]

If you need a Hollywood production to bring that point home, the damage is already done

[@Philbert-s2c]

@@Browneye475 Yeah one would think we're all familiar with the last time we had a civil war in this country.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

Oh, found the guiy who wishes he still had slaves. We fight these wars for a reason, doofus.

[@poposterous236]

Actually, knowing how society seems to not heed the warnings of science fiction, I'd say a civil war is more likely after the release of this film. It's doing the work of making the idea mainstream.

[@tyronegreen1961]

​​@@Browneye475And yet we are still going through division

[@wukong1066]

Korey dressed like the Rock at WrestleMania this year

[@DarrenMoore-le6pg]

Captain Lou Albano

[@SkyelarEagle]

I’m here for Korey’s shirt

[@tmmartinesq.6216]

Miami Vice

[@BookMaven9]

Idont think it matters which side or who but illustrate what a civil war would look like. Showing how awful it would be it we allowed ourselves to devolve into chaos and war with each other,

[@bigpictureguys8415]

Not making this movie about some sort of culture war or left vs right was such a brilliant decision. The studio probably wasn’t psyched when they heard that but the most interesting story isn’t that sensationalist bullshit. There’s a way deeper message at the core here for every American to ponder.

[@thenomad9230]

having a movie that's right vs left doesn't make it lacking in depth. There are tons of good movies out there that are social commentaries. In fact, that message war is bad is itself a political message. Now movies don't have to be controversial and talk about current events, but if you're making a movie about a modern day American civil war at this time in American history I think you're missing the potential of your premise.

[@bigpictureguys8415]

@@thenomad9230 any idea can be good if the writing is good so to your point I’m not saying it’s impossible to make a movie featuring the ugly potential of a binary political system. I guess what I’m mostly trying to say is that the social commentary at play in civil war got more to the crux of the fundamental issue facing American politics which is would we unite against fascism or let our differences blind us to the ultimate threat? What would that look like? How many unforeseen twists would that horrific rabbit hole take?

[@thenomad9230]

@@bigpictureguys8415 but who is fascist and what is fascism? If we can't define these terms then uniting against it doesn't really make much sense. It's all kind of nebulous when you're not specific. And if you're too vague then you're not really saying anything. I just don't think it should have been called civil war and taken place in america. If you want to create something like Star wars that's fine or Indiana Jones were the bad guys are obviously bad and it's not really described with their motives are you can make an entertaining film just not a poignant one.

[@bigpictureguys8415]

@@thenomad9230 I mean was the president serving three terms and drone striking American people not clear enough for you?

[@thenomad9230]

@@bigpictureguys8415 I think parts of it were pretty analogous to what's going on now and I think those parts are good and live up to the premise. However the California Texas alliance just doesn't make sense with what we know about America is there something different about this America than our own in which case I think that does need to in some way be explained. Just as the civil war itself is explained by a president trying to obtain power if we just had a dictator president in America but that wasn't explained I think the audience would be justifiably confused don't you? If there's something radically different about the United States as you're presenting you shouldn't ignore it.

[@ricardotejeda6530]

I think the fact that it doesn't take sides is more effective for the viewer. It's stating and showing that reasons or sides do not matter because the horrors of war reach everyone all the same, no matter your beliefs. Brother killing brother. And as viewers, we're almost the everyday citizens caught in the middle as we're entering this situation much like some state or city who simply found themselves caught in the crossfire because of some strategic advantage their location offers. Also, thinking about how Kirsten Dunst's Lee seems like an analog for the typical voyeuristic American who's cold and apathetic towards war until it hits home and gets personal then she's thrown fully into it in a way she's unprepared for. Her and her friends are threatened then her mentor dies and she loses her composure and can't even carry on with what feels routine. Then you have young Jesse who gradually loses empathy as she's inundated with the imagery of death so much that it just becomes normal. Old dude Sammie as the older generation who tries to impart knowledge and give warnings, and is ultimately right but ignored. He's lived through it in many different ways. He even has a line when they're in that town with the shop that almost seemed like he called out Lee's shock at the people watching on top of the building as her whiteness protecting her and how he thinks this has always been the norm, like he's had to deal with it in many ways.

[@Solrac81]

Saw the movie today. I can’t believe the White House does not have any secure bunkers or secret escape tunnels.

[@treacherousjslither6920]

It does. Google it.

[@djestouff]

yeah, all the simple takes about Texas & California when in actuality this was the most unbelievable part to me. why was the prez just chilling in the oval office lol

[@undrtakr900]

The White House does have secret tunnels, passageways and secure bunkers, where the president will be safe, even in the case of a nuclear bomb attack. I don't understand why he wasn't immediately taken there, when the Western Front invaded Washington DC? 🤷🏽

[@replicacity92]

@@djestoufflmao, I thought the same

[@kerry-j4m]

I'm pretty sure they do,but,that type of info is not for the public to know.

[@mjtdacoolest96]

*spoilers* the cinematography was tremendous. My biggest gripe was with Jessie’s character. She’s literally the reason why all the familiar characters die. Her character arch is never explained. She goes from throwing up in the back of the car to taking pictures of people who are literally dying trying to save her and getting in the way in a matter of 10 minutes of screen time. Other than that this is an interesting watch. I wish they explained more of the war and the effects. Someone mentions how much more valuable the Canadian dollar is than USD because of the war and stuff like that would’ve been interesting to delve into.

[@TheEnigmaticBM39]

Jesse's whole character revolves around a "fresh face" going into the line of the work they want to do and not realizing the things that come with it. You get a character that's niave and innocent that ends up becoming what their idol was at the end.

[@williamclarke3026]

The characters I think are well done. And get that the movie is being politically neutral. But Martin has a point that it’s hard to get into it because I’m scratching my head thinking: how did this happen, what was the war fought over, if the wf is in the south near Texas and California while the US is further north. Then why are all are these towns in US territory so abandoned. Where did the people go. The movie is when you’re watching it in the moment, but if you start to think about it more and more it starts to come apart.

[@rogerr472]

I work at a movie theater and I could hear this movie from the back parking lot

[@mundaneamazing]

Funny. I could hear Challengers' pulsing disco beats while watching this.

[@thevegetableaddict4625]

I felt that the choreography, sound design and the set design for this film were the shine star of this film. All avengers jokes aside, this movie isn’t for everyone. This is not science fiction, this is not comic book based fantasy. This is close to a horror film. And some just aren’t ready for that. I’m desensitized to this type of stuff 😅. But I throughly enjoyed it. THAT scene with Jesse Plemons made EVERYONE in the theater sit there in shock. But apart from that, I really enjoyed seeing the social commentary on ageism between Lee and Jessie and Sammy. These Older journalists got pretty rigid and have a hard time really supporting these younger people trying to develop their career. And I really like Joel’s character too when it comes to journalists and having to be in the eye of this storm. And how people process grief. I felt this movie wasn’t as good as Dune but it’s up there. Low full price, high matinee from me. And yes I saw it in imax. Absolutely groundbreaking sound

[@stephensmith7327]

It's Cannon Film Group Bullshit dolled up to look Prestigious. You want to avoid Polotics, set it in a fictional country. You want to set it in America but still avoid Federal Polotics? Make up parties like The Founding Fathers from The Purge. You want to also ignore Regional politics too, FUCK OFF!

[@bigpictureguys8415]

25:00 I thought they gave more than enough context to make it clear the civil war was a revolt against fascism. With that it’s not hard to fill in the blanks of literally any question one might have. Trivial right vs left petty grievances fall by the wayside in the face of real fascism. Texas & California teaming up makes complete sense in that context. They both have huge independent GDP’s, populations, military & geographical capabilities built in, and populations with state pride.

[@ajiththomas2465]

Texas and California teaming up wouldn't make sense, because if it's a revolt against fascism, wouldn't Texas obviously side with the fascist?

[@karimbennett5651]

I don’t know about the “military capabilities” of either state. They don’t have armies, air forces, or navies to speak of.

[@bigpictureguys8415]

@@karimbennett5651 there are tons of military bases in Texas & California. The states have massive GDP’s.

[@royals080]

facism typically comes from the right anyway lol and american politics in real life are so poor because it isn't a left vs right thing as far as dems vs republicans. It's center-right vs right thing

[@ladyhotep5189]

It was described as a movie about a group of photographers and their journey through war. A veteran photographer and a novice. This description was from another KZbin channel. It sounds like people were expecting one thing but got another. 🤷‍♀️

[@lundc6397]

Don't waste your time

[@djestouff]

that’s an accurate description so if that sounds appealing it’s definitely not a waste of time

[@PoyTroy]

I definitely thought it was. Movie was trash and boring. A24 truly dropped the ball adding their name to this project. I love all of A24s movies and how different and unique they are. This movie was not it. It just follows a photographer around taking shots of a rural America. Was not interesting at all

[@jetstorm39]

Watched this film last night and screamed at the theater when the big guy used his truck to hit the 2 dude. I screamed out " YEEEEAAAAH GET THAT MOTHERFUCKER!!!"

[@tonym994]

that was more gratifying than anything! to see the bad guy get it!! it was also chilling to watch a rogue soldier who stopped caring a long time ago. they shoot cameras, but they can also drive a 3 ton car up yer ass. he met a very violent end, but had it coming.

[@stevekasan3105]

I cannot in good concious say that the trailers did a better job in exploring what this film presents than the actual film. The trailers did all the work in teaching us more of this situation than the movie as this is where exposition scenes matter to give more context

[@PoyTroy]

They did. I got all hyped up from the trailer , then saw the movie and I couldn’t do it 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@RedEyesRobotics]

The funniest part about this movie to me was that the most unbelievable aspect of this movie is just Texas and California teaming up in the first place! 😂😂

[@altonyoung3734]

Difficult to see. The future is always in motion.

[@cflash2785]

"stuff" happens man lol. Eventually all that goes out the window when crap really hits the fan.

[@marvinbetts8113]

I thought the same thing, the most liberal state and the most conservative state joining forces

[@ShellsGhost1]

The national guard for two states somehow take out the entirety of the US military?

[@cflash2785]

@@ShellsGhost1 No. It was a banded rebel fighting force from multiple states against the gov't lead force. Not only just cali and tex. There are many many veterans, and random ppl with guns are in the US with skills. People are just hung up on real life politics or red vs blue in the US like baseball teams smh. In actuality multiple people could want to fight on certain side of a war for multiple reasons.

[@yahmicah4294]

I really appreciated Stephen Henderson’s (Thurfir the Mentat) role here. He was still the risk calculator but had a more active role. The elder Man went out like a legend.

[@DarrenMoore-le6pg]

I hope we get a directors cut of Dune. I heard Thufir Hawat had a more scenes/active role but they cut a lot of the parts that Stephen Henderson was in. . Yeah, he saved their asses and went out like a hero.

[@ButterCookie1984]

There is NO WAY that the end battle scene was compared to the beginning ICONIC scene of Saving Private Ryan. NO WAY.

[@undrtakr900]

The Civil War battle scene was kool, but it in no way measures up to Saving Private Ryan opening scene.

[@optimascrime5235]

There was some genuinely shocking and great scene's and despite it not being perfect it's definitely a film that's going to stick with me for awhile

[@replicacity92]

Same here

[@ActuallyDoubleGuitars]

So fucked up at my theatre some parents brought a kid to that film who was no older than six.

[@gigatears2574]

that’s crazy. by the hour and thirty minute mark, I had a thought.. I hope no children are in here. lol

[@tonym994]

I saw 'BONNIE & CLYDE' at 10 or 11,in '67, just before ratings came along to prevent us seeing extreme violence (and believe be, I know 'extreme' after seeing blood everywhere, when the norm was barely a spec of blood, usually in B&W, w/ guns blazing, 'til that point). that film &' the WILD BUNCH' caused people to walk out of theatres. Penn and Peckinpah were true revolutionaries. today's kids I don't imagine being traumatized. media today has prepared them .'CIVIL WAR' has great battle scenes. loud, and gripping.

[@Stoni41]

the end fight was amazing but the movie has a serious lack of world building

[@luchamiomaridekakio6429]

It was cool but couldve been better. Yall mentioned Saving Private Ryan, I wish it couldve been more like that- a great mix of Drama and Action.

[@rajnikanth1776]

Im so glad i didnt watch any of the trailers and only knew the logline going in. Ever since I walked out of the theater Ive heard so many reviewers and found whatever criticisms interesting to hear but i do feel everything is on purpose. Considering how easy it would be to pick a side narratively in order to flesh out the conflict more, I feel its specifically designed to be in the periphery, distant enough to keep you focusing on the effects of a civil war rather than why it came to be. It allows the viewer to attach whatever political narrative they want, personal or otherwise, to what's happening around the characters. By doing that, It reinforces the ultimate cautionary tale and message on a different level that it doesnt matter whose side your on, that we should all aim to work together peacefully, cuz even if you think you want this, you dont.

[@lizzardwizard2000]

That’s something a teenager would say. Someone with limited critical thinking skills.

[@LegoWarFims]

@@lizzardwizard2000 not reply he has a point.

[@shettywap]

​@@lizzardwizard2000funnily, youre the one who comes off sounding like a teenager here. 😆

[@BePatient888]

In the movie, President Ron Swanson has closed the FBI and opted to stay on for a 3rd Term. Though he is not a copy of any current SINGLE President... he's a future version of a Trumpist politician. Let's not ki ourselves. The movie does a great job of mixing up the factions, so it it doesn't directly parallel the way that our current political climate would look like if it fractured into open hostility. The movie, with its focus on the journalists, rather the political background, was made carefully and deliberately, and is very character focused. It is ultimately a great choice and makes the movie much more powerful. You almost feel like the journalists are in a foreign country, until it can't be ignored that this is the United States.

[@terrealexander4442]

18:15 He does look like Pedro Pascal😅

[@shawnthorington7723]

He was trying to get with that young girl.

[@KThangFastLife]

I saw it in 4DX RPX. During the shootouts fog and smoke would arise and fill the theater. The seats would shake from left and right up and down while they were running or in a car chase.

[@FaceFamous]

Korey with his Vice City shirt on😂

[@KingGreqo]

I think they mentioned the unlikely team up between Cali & Texas to make it even more apolitical.

[@stephensmith7327]

I think the Writer/Director took the easy A Political way out of writing about the Civil War because he's British and didn't want the people giving him money to be mad at him. This is basically Capitalizing on Civil Unrest while hedging bets on who's gonna win.

[@Desmond-Dark]

I agree LOL

[@Crunch_Buttsteak]

Fuck picking a side and alienating people

[@stephensmith7327]

@@Crunch_Buttsteak or make a country up, it's already fiction so why not.

[@captaincrunch416]

RE: what Korey is saying at 17:20 The first half of this movie reminded me of Matt Stone and Trey Parker's story structure comments. It was very much a story where the words "and then" go between a lot of the story beats, as opposed to a story where "therefore" or "but" would go between the various interludes that occur during the driving section of the movie.

[@jamescaruso6564]

Loved the movie, but it would have been better as a 2 or 3 season show. Would have loved small pastiches photographing and learning about people caught in the war and how it has affected them. That would have given it a grounding, character driven context that would have gone a long way.

[@terryf3282]

making it a Texas/Florida alliance would have made more sense. But i think Florida joins them anyway.

[@SamuelBenson-si8mp]

You know when they were driving in the vehicle, the old man mentioned that the president was in his third term and he would shoot journalist on site. Potus was the bad guy in this movie, and that reminds me of if Trump ever became president again because he wanted to be a dictator too.

[@DarrenMoore-le6pg]

Yep, Potus in this movie was a totalitarian dictator. He also green lit air strikes on civilians.

[@hidden-treasures]

Not to turn away some audience members, they used bread crumbs to tie it to real events today. References to "MAGA", "Antifa", "China", "Enemy of the People" (the press), are scattered throughout. Attacks on civilian cities (as threatened), nice things about Hitler (mass graves), are all bread crumbs. They did this to make the ties intentionally vague, and to keep the focus on the journalists. Great movie. Classic.

[@andres18ism]

Pedro pascal 🤣🤣🤣

[@hongquiao]

15:55 I would also add "Children of Men"

[@genadymitov6176]

I haven't watch the movie but from trailers I'm getting "Children of men" vibes 🤔

[@LoveFactorySweatShop]

I can’t believe that Boogaloo Boys reference flew over Korey’s head.

[@leoburton77]

Movie was good, but didn’t go far enough. Needed more ‘Purge’ level of anarchy.

[@Gmthekiller]

My favorite review channel by far. You guys should have millions of subs by now

[@kerry-j4m]

AGREED.

[@warhammerguy]

So let me get this straight. - The movie is called "Civil War". - The movie was marketed on the civil war. - The Civil war part is what most people come to see the movie for. - The parts with the civil war is the best parts. Yet they barely show, focus on, explain or dedicate time to the civil war aspect and instead mostly focus on a small group of characters no one came to see? What is this? Godzilla 2014? If they truly believed that their story could stand on its own without misleading audiences then they would have just called it "War Reporter", but right now it feels like they are cashing in on the political divide in the country by marketing the movie like this even if the movie itself is ok. I am glad the movie didn't make the civil war a result of the current political climate since it makes the movie more timeless, but they could still have explored the civil war a bit more and have it be a cautionary tale for future generations.

[@drakashrakenburgproduction5369]

Oh shut up

[@stephensmith7327]

They could have made it as simple as Robots. One side likes em, other side hates them. Otherwise the only take away is "War is bad, M'Kay. Except for the Revolutinary War.... and the first Civil War.... and World War 2."

[@shettywap]

Have you seen it yet? Lol

[@brianng8350]

The civil war is shown throughout the movie. It’s just you don’t get the details or whose side you are encamped with. Go watch the movie.

[@Revealingstorm.]

Funny though the 2014 Godzilla is probably the best American Godzilla movie by a good bit

[@Erichwanh]

"In the movie Civil War..." "Which one?" "No cap." "What movie was capping?" "I hate you and your language's timeline"

[@eliek2014]

Korey is dressed like he sells cocaine

[@bigpictureguys8415]

This movie was less about making a philosophical point than it was invoking feelings for me. I felt a variety of very complex sticky emotions that went beyond anything the movie itself spelled out in its plot or dialogue. For that I have to give it a VERY high full price. There were about 2 things that happened plot wise that held it back from being a better than sex for me but with time I could see myself getting over those and going even higher in my book.

[@thevegetableaddict4625]

The movie definitely avoided these modern political issues that we see today on purpose. I don’t Alex garland wanted it to be social commentary that turned out to be this liberal or conservative agenda but to invoke the feelings these journalists were feeling along this “suicide mission” Sammy was talking about

[@edwardfischer3944]

Movie trivia game: The Jesse Plemons character in the movie, The guy wearing the red glasses identify his character affiliation, A. KKK B. proud boys C. oath keepers D. christian nationalists E. american nazi party F. american communist party G. local freelance militia H. white supremacist I. cornbread mafia J. the posse K. project 2025 L. christofascist agenda M. seven mountain mandate

[@Uthardar]

how can you do a a modern civil war premise and not be political!?

[@colinsilver1041]

War is politics by other means - Carl von Clausewits.

[@PiratesRock]

Hollywood movie writers be like:

[@lurkingposter]

Yeah, it's spineless AF. It's obvious which group is calling for a civil war and an end to democracy.

[@Dave0G]

They were trying to hammer home the "war is bad" message so giving the audiences sides they could use to justify the carnage would be counter to getting that across.

[@EJD339]

Because a lot of times in civil wars, peoples have these ideologies what they think will be a better world for their country and eventually they just become as crappy as the people they were taking down.

[@Tmack034]

The movie wasn't that great. I'd give it a rental. The "civil war" aspect of it feels like just a hook to get the movie made. The movie was about the war photographers. You could make up a country and tell the same story. But the the characters are so bland and uninteresting. You have to do one or the other, give me good world building or give me good characters. The movie does neither well. The ending battle is very good but everything else was mid. Also the only photographer that has any common sense is Lee. Without going into spoilers, the other photographers would have been gone with their bone headed decisions.

[@TealWolf26]

I feel the same.

[@aikisteven0616]

If you're on the right, you're probably going to take the wrong message, and this movie is going to piss you off. If you're on the left, you're probably going to take the wrong message and this movie is going to piss you off. If you think that is movie is going to validate your point of view, or if you think this movie is going to be antithetical to your point of view, it's going to piss you off. That being said, I think it's a movie that every American NEEDS to see. There are still WAY too many people that are literally hoping for this sort of thing to come to pass ( mostly because they are certain that once the dust settles, they will be the ones in power), and I think that the movie is a visceral look at what it would really mean to have people slaughtering other people. The Gravy Seals love to talk tough but want to forget the humanity of other people, while the Ivy League wrings their hands over the state of things but can't be bothered to act outside of updating their Facebook status. BOTH sides, and everybody in between needs to be reminded of what is really at stake. (And the idea of a California/Texas coalition really isn't that fanciful - there are more anti-goverment types outside of L.A. than you might think, and if a president illegally declared themselves in power for a 3rd term, I really think you'd see MORE states want to secede than we had in the film, red or blue)

[@royals080]

takes like this glosses over the real issues in this country. You're probably not even part of a group being opressed

[@biguy617]

This movie was a disappointment. I hated the young Journalist wannabe character. There is a bunker in the White House p. It hakes no sense that the President wasn’t in there. This movie is Some Ole Bullshit.

[@biguy617]

Korey half of California is conservative. There is much of California that votes democrat. Even then there are independents and that is why California goes blue.

[@rt20111]

Everytime they didn't listen to the bkack guy, I just shook my head.....

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

30:39 Mark! 1K Thumbs Up + Mine! 👍 You're welcome, and thanks! 😊 Notes: I missed you guys! 😢😮 Martin is wearing some of my very favorite colors! 🎉

[@frankalmanzar3492]

Yeah that actor really does look like Pedro Pascal. I thought that same thing when I watched the trailer lol.

[@AllInTheGame01]

Given the subject matter, the intention to stay as 'apolitical' as possible & well utilised $50m production budget & $20m marketing budget, I thought all its audience score metrics esp CinemaScore would be interesting to track especially as Alex Garland's movies typically don't have high audience scores with Ex Machina being the only one of the 4 movies he's both written & directed that both critics & audiences have loved! Currently has a B- CinemaScore, 77% RT (3.9/5), 76% PostTrak, 6.2/10 Metacritic & 7.6/10 IMDB audience ratings, so looks ok but not great overall in terms of its box office legs.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

he has smoke for men but too pussy to go after the GOP

[@OdesseyAchilles-ih5qb]

Martin’s hat is fantastic 🎩 🇺🇸 🌟

[@ffejgib]

The Hawaiian shirts are the symbol of the Boogaloo Bois.

[@randomanton]

Is that an 80s breakdance crew?

[@lurkingposter]

​@randomanton Boogalo boys is a reference to Breaking 2: Electric Boogaloo. In their context, the Boogaloo boys want Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo.

[@ffejgib]

@@randomanton It's now two toyally different groups nowadays. Breaking 2 Electric Boogaloo was the main inspiration.

[@ffejgib]

@@lurkingposter "In the business, we call this foreshadowing." -Count Dankula

[@tmmartinesq.6216]

​@@lurkingposter Don't confuse Boogaloo Boys with Jugalos

[@TimeisReel]

It's a Movie about 'War Journalist ". If you look at it from that Prospective it's enjoyable...

[@GO-GO_SO-SO]

I heard that they made it more neutral on purpose. I can understand why they did it, but I think it would have been more impactful if they didn't. It would have made it more realistic/believable. We already know who would be more likely to do it. I don't need to remind anyone about the Capitol situation that happened on January 6 years ago that was started by a certain corrupt president that was salty that he lost.

[@ajiththomas2465]

I agree. Neutrality is not the same as objectivity. The problem with neutrality is that in some cases, neutrality favors the oppressor. Like, what exactly is the neutral perspective of the Holocaust or slavery? That's the problem with the fallacious golden mean "enlightened centrism" BS ideology that is infused with this film, acting like it's above it all when in reality, it's just dishonest to the truth and reality and tries to create a middle ground between two sides that are not equally bad. All it does is give false credence to the obviously worse side.

[@GO-GO_SO-SO]

@@shettywap I hear you, but since there are literally people on the right today that call themselves Neo Nazis and are more likely to support Trump, it is more likely that Hitler would be on the right and like Trump.

[@brianng8350]

I don’t agree. The impact is still there when you see the deaths. And the movie president is a Trump like figure if you read between the lines - wants 3rd term, lies to the public - it is the “greatest”… and he is winning, uses army on the citizens…

[@ItsJustCartier]

Pretty wild how many people are praising the neutral stance as if it said a lot…

[@8ballsix27]

dudes in the Hawaiian shirts were probably a reference to the boogaloo boys

[@TheJaker5]

I’m very glad I saw it in the theater cuz MAN that 3rd act in DC had me on the edge of my seat. And also the tense moments prior to that were on another level. I disagree with basically every criticism I’ve heard so far. This movie would not work if it included the stuff these folks are saying.

[@evertonb105]

This movie reminded of Apocolypse Now. (AN)..as Colonel Kutz was to the final mission, the white house was the final stop at the end of the river. The press SUV was equvilant to the boat piloted by the chief petty officer in the AN....and we the audience were like Charlie Sheen;s character. in AN..as the film progressed, it became darker and more dangerous like AN...Civil War was brillant.. 5 out of 5 stars...

[@alphacause]

The insistence, by Alex Garland, of not making the national conflict in his film mirror the political leanings of the states as they exist in reality is smart. If he did do that, he would risk pandering to one side of the political spectrum while alienating the other. It is funny to see many critics on other channels dislike this film precisely because it refused to be a mouthpiece for rightwing or leftwing ideology. It reveals a lot about them and their lack of objectivity as film critics.

[@ajiththomas2465]

I disagree. Neutrality is not the same as objectivity. The problem with neutrality is that in some cases, neutrality favors the oppressor. Like, what exactly is the neutral perspective of the Holocaust or slavery? That's the problem with the fallacious golden mean "enlightened centrism" BS ideology that is infused with this film, acting like it's above it all when in reality, it's just dishonest to the truth and reality and tries to create a middle ground between two sides that are not equally bad. All it does is give false credence to the obviously worse side. Because it forces this unrealistic neutrality, none of the stakes of the films or the motivations make sense. Civil wars happen for reasons but we're not given any for the civil war that the film takes it's name from.

[@HangarFry]

I think the problem with this movie and in effect Alex Garland who directed it is that it is trying to be neutral and ends up not having a cohesive, thoughtful point. Alex Garland made some comments bout the movie when it premiered at SXSW earlier this year, saying that “left and right, just to be clear about it, are ideological arguments about how to run a state. That’s all they are. They are not a right or wrong, in terms of good and bad.” But that's simply not true, if it ever was. You could have maybe have done a both side take on things around the early to late 2000s but the political climate has clearly changed. There is only one side calling for a “civil war.” There is only one side stoking hatred by spreading conspiracy theories about the Great Replacement. There is only one side boosting baseless and widely debunked theories that elections are rigged. There is only one side whose presidential candidate is promising a “bloodbath” if he loses the election. Even Alex Garland using video from someone like Andy Ngo for this film, whos documented as not only lying about left leaning people but has ties to Nazi and White supremacist groups and has even given a list of real journalists to said groups, leaves a lot of ignorance on Garlands part and a very outdated and narrow view of what RIght and Left is now in America

[@ajiththomas2465]

I agree. Neutrality is not the same as objectivity. The problem with neutrality is that in some cases, neutrality favors the oppressor. Like, what exactly is the neutral perspective of the Holocaust or slavery? That's the problem with the fallacious golden mean "enlightened centrism" BS ideology that is infused with this film, acting like it's above it all when in reality, it's just dishonest to the truth and reality and tries to create a middle ground between two sides that are not equally bad. All it does is give false credence to the obviously worse side. Because it forces this unrealistic neutrality, none of the stakes of the films or the motivations make sense. Civil wars happen for reasons but we're not given any for the civil war that the film takes it's name from.

[@VYBEKAT]

Agreed

[@alexp.4270]

The fact of the matter is, a democratic president is responsible for funding a genocide. I agree there is a worse side, but things are not black & white. And if your goal is to address the issue of the polarization of current politics, attacking a side is not how you go about it. Also, the entire point of the film is about the nature of war, not the specifics of our current day.

[@nickyb3800]

You need to get out of your bubble. How many people have your "good side" k1 Iled over the past few years compared to the previous 4 years? Even if we're talking about C V, more people have d1 ed while your "good side" was in power. Garland was correct.

[@ItsJustCartier]

@@alexp.4270A genocide???😂😂😂

[@rmeddy]

I really wanted to love it but I just couldn't, mostly because of the decision making by some of the characters and how the story flowed and how some scenes were staged and blocked doesn't work given the supposed realistic "premise" and I don't mind the deliberate incoherence of the worldbuilding that's mostly fine, it reminded a bit of an old german film called Circle of Deceit I had a similar feeling to when I first saw Man of Steel, where action and visuals are great but everything else is a bit iffy and It being something I thought I always wanted , then I realized nah I kinda don't Same with this,ever since playing that Mass Effect 2 DLC and one level in Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 I always wanted to how a second American Civil War would play out but now not so much Ultimately the good outweighs the bad but it's a shame it was held back by some what really felt like unforced errors in the writing. Matinee

[@explodingrubberducky797]

People are horrible. The one thing stopping hell from breaking loose and people showing how evil they are is the civil authroity. Once that breaks down, people are free to show what's deep within themselves

[@lorantmena6373]

The shots were heavily influenced by "Come And See" from what I've read.

[@mattylite7]

The hawaian shirts are actually a touch of accuracy. Look up the Boog Boys

[@dominicscreativefilms]

Been anticipating this review so much and honestly just the reception for this movie in general (almost more than the movie itself). Especially given it’s tackling a touchy subject and during election season.

[@michaelpaladin9873]

The movie starts out in episode (2) which means you came to that conclusion without having seen the prequel . The prequel of the full script clearly explains what lead up to the civil war. 1. It begins with Mr. T. loosing his court trial and being sent to prison. 2. The maga movement will see this as rigging another election. 3. Within Mr. B's first year in office during his second term, the immigration crisis goes out of control. 4. The maga movement in California & Texas unite to close the borders by forming the Western Forces patriot militia.. 5. The script explains that after 2024 the two party system is broken and from that split become the (nationalist) & (loyalist) parties. 6. By Mr. B's 2nd year in office Alaska will succeed from the union. 7. Once Alaska succeeds the loyalist party will form their own militia to try and prevent other states from succeeding. 8. By Mr. B's 3rd term in office, Mr. RD will allied with other nationalist to form the Florida Alliance to help the Western forces fight against the Loyalist movement. 9. By Mr. B's 4th year in office the entire country will be in such turmoil, that the country will not be able to hold another presidential election and Mr. B's cabinet will stay in place for a (3rd) term. 10. Within Mr. B's 3rd term he will BAN the Free Press and and only allow what the nationalist party calls the fake news medias to broadcast his messages. 11. By the ending Mr. B's first year in office of his 3rd term (civil war) will spread across America. THIS is where we see this MOVIE begin. The first part of the script was deem to controversial so it was discontinued.

[@jennaywilliams1024]

Ummm, So let me entertain your interest in this fiction? If they succeed and America is in turmoil due to their takeover against the loyalists, then what? Like what is their goal for this revamped Civil War?

[@grindcoremaniac]

I'm probably not gonna see it. Alex Garland's last couple movies have had a really strong start then failed at the end. Leaves me really dissatisfied.

[@TealWolf26]

That's more or less what happened for me personally. Interesting premise poorly executed.

[@ssgsorrels]

This movie perfectly depicts the cold blooded, selfish nature of journalists a bit at least

[@NizAli-i3h]

Malcom X said, "The chickens coming Home to roost" I believe most Americans understand the murder, death, kill...their government has spread across the world for decades.... the fact that any American can say this movie doesn't feel real, is literally because the fact they never were a victim of the Murder Death Kill American War Machine. There is a very specific reason why this movie is apolitical.....because both parties in America has been complicate in committing Murder Death Kill throughout the world. That being said I liked the movie. I understand why Americans wouldn't like it, because if it happened in their backyard, it feels different. Peace ✌🏾 ❤

[@treacherousjslither6920]

Complicit*

[@TheFBoner]

​@@treacherousjslither6920Complecated*

[@EternalPhoenix2183]

Can’t agree with these other comments. Have not had a movie piss me off this much since Prometheus. It felt like it was made by cowards who couldn’t commit to going all the way to remain “neutral”. Fuck that. If you’re going to make an absurd premise at least have the courage to go all out and name names, and political parties

[@LegoWarFims]

And then you’ll have people bitching that it was either too Left or too far right.

[@DarrenMoore-le6pg]

@@LegoWarFims Exactly.

[@Heroasaurus]

I agree with Martin. Lots of potential and excitement that unfortunately fell flat. Not terrible just a bit empty. 7/10

[@SharkWithFreakinLaserBeam]

There's so much to talk about, but overall, there was really only one complaint I had. ** Spoiler Alert ** It was pretty stupid how Lee died. Not the fact that she died, or why she did it, but that over-exaggerated pause. Other than that, the movie was heavy af and the sound was amazing. I already saw it twice, and I'll probably go at least a third time.

[@acerock013]

i went into this film with low expectations because i thought the trailers were cringe and exploitive. this film pretends to be apolitical but you can't reference things like Charlotesville, AntiFa or make reference to a bunch of things that are potential spoilers or use characters dressed up as Boogaloo Boys and then act like you don't have an opinion. Something another reviewer said that made sense with me, these are all print media and photo journalists. No citizen journalists or mention of social media. There are some deep red rose tinted glasses viewing the role of journalists in this film and pretending like the media is unbiased is ridiculous and offensive in itself. I don't think this film is at all controversial. You will find much better commentary and insight about the American condition in a show like Fallout which is a satire. Civil War is just self serious liberal equivalent to an edge lord trying to be edgy and provacotive but in the end has nothing ot say other than "war is bad." it's pretty and sounds amazing and some good performances...but it is paper thin and the only thoughts it provokes are...nothing. this film has literally nothing to say. It's just lame.

[@joshjacks2837]

When I saw the guys in Hawaiian shirts I immediately thought Boogaloo Boys.

[@TheEnigmaticBM39]

Bingo

[@pegacorn13]

Thin, weak characters, no context, no emotion. I'm so disappointed in Alex garland.

[@ShellsGhost1]

This movie was so bland. NPR and the Pentagon teamed up to write the most sanitary and safe depiction of war ever put to screen. Those set pieces were terrible. Just watch Children of Men or the Fablemans if you want to see better action. Why even make the movie if you're not even going to try and do anything with it. The reporters were dip shits too. Kirsten Dunst was great. But there is nothing redeeming about this. Garland's worst work for me.

[@TealWolf26]

I felt emotional flatline for almost the entire movie. There was no human or emotional tether for me. I felt like a tourist watching a band of tourists instead of immersed in this world. I'm disappointed that I felt nothing but confusion. I wasn't angry or feeling a call to arms against injustice and I didn't get the warm, content, feel good fuzzies. Just literally nothing but confusion and mild distaste or disgust at some of the characters. Missed opportunity and failed execution on something that could have been memorable and impactful. Something to get you thinking and imagine our country devolving into that. It failed completely to immerse me in the premise.

[@nunaya4163]

I saw this movie a couple of days ago. I can't get it out of my head!

[@sirpercival4731]

LOVED THE SCENE WHERE : In the middle of a shooting War ........ The Girls take time out to try on a dress and do some shopping ! EVERY CHAUVINIST IN THE THEATER WAS LAUGHING THEIR AZZ OFF !!!

[@thecunninlynguist]

I enjoyed it overall. I had to chuckle how they threw Florida under the bus immediately in the intro. I was annoyed by the young photographer....but I think that was the point....that ending....🤐

[@MrBlueBot5]

That was the point

[@danieltobin4498]

It was intentional

[@TheRetroGamerGuy]

They were like "Yeah Florida Man needs to go." 😂

[@brianng8350]

That ending was the only unsatisfying part of the movie…. The young photographer! But I guess that is the point to be a photographer in war zone.

[@EpicFurious]

Wagner Moura's character had a notepad and pen in a couple of scenes.

[@jimmiegiboney2473]

11:22 Mark! Guys, howdy! 🤠 This is the first video of yours that I've decided to view since getting this current new smartphone! 🎉 That two star flag! I guess that it represents the alliance of California and Texas, right? Are they the rebellious states? But anyway, seeing it reminded me of something that may be the answer to your questions about such an alliance. What they have in common is that before Statehood, California was "The Bear Republic" at one point, as indicated by their current flag, and Texas was "The Republic of Texas" and to a writer who didn't research more, that would seem to be enough cause there, I suppose. 🤔 As for this movie, I was unaware that it existed until after listening to the local movie theater's answering machine. I had to ask "Google" about it. So your video here is my first time to see the previews, too!

[@JR-gh8lp]

Korey you look so relaxed in your threads

[@JuanDiaz-zo2ys]

That's the actor that played Pablo Escobar in NARCOS

[@404GameAndMusicProducer]

that dude with the shades stole the show for me i was like dude chill one moment turn psycho the next

[@TealWolf26]

Yeah I like that actor. He plays the banal psychopath super well. Great showcase of casual brutality and cruelty.

[@frankright4454]

Just finished watching this movie, complete gibberish. You never escape the fact that you're watching a movie and never get into the story. Nothing makes sense. We're voting tomorrow in South Africa and I felt like watching this movie, but yeah, it's not good.

[@MagicEye117]

I saw this movie in 4d( my first 4d movie). Really good movie. I know this isn't a "war" movie, but i wish they would have explained how the war got started. More importantly i wish they would have explained how the hell Texas and California joined forces. You know stuff has to be bad for those two to get along.

[@2004dale]

Being able to connect to a character: good or bad- is what keeps you invested in any story otherwise why the heck do I care to watch or read the story? You can be disturbed by characters that are written well enough for you to connect to their struggle, their journey, their desires. Example: The Joker! This Civil War was shit writing at every level. People seriously praise this film and it blows my mind.