Civil War Spadroon Tested and Reply to Scholagladiatoria!

Thrand and Kati test a Civil War Spadroon or the confederate non-commissioned officers sword from Medieval Shoppe Australia medievalshoppe.... . Thrand does this as a reply to / scholagladiatoria Matt Easton's or Scholagladiatoria's many videos on Spadroons and viewer request by testing on 20% Ballistic gel belly analog covered in double breasted military jacket to see how well it cuts and thrust against clothing of the time.
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Thrand's Note: This is a re-release. Tried to improve sound it was to low overall and cut out 5 mins of black out at end that rendered by mistake. Video is now 13 and half minutes long enjoy!

[@caveymoley]

lol I love hearing about you using "just the tip" and how "after pushing some of the fabric out of the way, you can get about an inch of penetration" ...

[@Thrand11]

caveymoley lol

[@IvorMektin1701]

Soon, legal for carry in Texas!

[@Thrand11]

Rich FiveFiveSix Ja!!!

[@lorenr3276]

Really when are they changing the law?

[@lorenr3276]

Just checked horay! I can carry swords now

[@lindgrenland]

I'm nothing but a filthy sword layman, but I think you could be cutting to smaller limbs like arms or neck for testing the cutting capacity of a sword; especially a sword like this, for a more proper analogy. When cutting a large surface area like the chest or stomach, I believe the energy delivered from the blade to the target is spread out across a larger section of the edge and thus reduce the bite of the blade into material and flesh analogue quite drastically (usually). This would be worse with sword types that are already somewhat lacking in this capacity. That said, I've always fancied spadroons. I like the way they look, I like how nimble they feel in the hand, I like the (intended) idea behind them, I like the eras in which they appear. I just love them, so even though I'm such a critical douche nozzle, I enjoyed this video!

[@SUPERSTUD6000]

havent watched your videos for a while. cool opening montage. i can tell youre putting more effort and money into your production. adding sleeves to your sleeveless tshirts is also a good choice if your planning to move up to the big leagues. soon you'll have your own history channel show. you got the goods kid.

[@Thrand11]

barry soetoro Thanks

[@michaelrunde4262]

Am I the only one here who absolutely loves double breasted coats and trench coats? I honestly think that back in that time they had some of the nicest styles because of how formally they would dress which is pretty cool in my opinion

[@thatchannel195]

Unfortunately criminals have ruined the image of such clothes especially leather trench coats

[@peterjaimez1619]

Very interesting! It is apparent that it would cut skin fairly easy. Keep the good work. Cheers. Peter

[@ohioman4646]

You're back! Congratulations!

[@phaenon4217]

I'm fascinated by these tip shot/cast blow techniques. Seems really effective!

[@jordanwilliams6972]

A couple things - The sword is based on the US M1840 NCO sword, not a pattern from the 1860s, an average US civil war soldier would have had a cotton shirt, maybe a longjohns, and a medium weight wool uniform coat, so a few more layers than one double breasted jacket, And the scabbard used for this pattern of sword in the civil war was always either leather or leather and wood. The steel scabbard comes later. The sword would be dulled by the metal scabbard not because it didn't fit properly, but because when you draw a sword from any scabbard the edge contacts either the throat or body of the scabbard, and with steel it dulls the edge much faster. This reproduction is rather poor as a representative, the original has less flex to the blade and more grip space to use the open handed grip. That's said, thank you for not making reference to the myth of "dull military civil war swords"

[@Gloin79]

So it's basically a smallsword that can cut a little better?

[@ArthurHerbst]

Well, usually yes. In this case the Spadroon is double as heavy as a smallsword.

[@PsylomeAlpha]

My internal spell-check substitutes spadroon to spoon when I read it.

[@28Shadow]

so, was this the edge the sword came with from Medieval Shoppe? I've been tempted by their stuff for a few years now. Your videos and tests with them definitely prove their worth.

[@PsylomeAlpha]

I thought at the beginning of the vid Thrand said he touched it up a bit, which implies a bit of work, but nothing so severe as redoing the grind.

[@elijahoconnell]

Where did you get the jacket/ what’s it’s name

[@kanonierable]

I think keeping a razorsharp edge at the tip and two or three inches below to be the most effective way to greatly enhance penetration capacity, It will also make your strikes from maximum distance become terribly effective, remember force greatly increses with spead and the tip of your sword travels the fastest. In a close combat situation on a civil war battlefiield your goal will definitely be to stab an opponent as a strike will not stop your opponent, except from a clean beheading, but one of those tip shots to his throat will also very likely do the trick. But you need to hit that target precisely, which is diffult as it is moving, but you will wound him almost certainly fatally if you stab him anywhere in the upper body and that is much harder to miss. If he is coming at you, his own forward impulse helps with the stabbing. There's a good reason why cavalry ended up with making the stab their main attacking technique with the "arme blanche" and they even kept the lance as a cavalry weapon untill WW I and beyond (Russian Polish war at the beginning of the 1920's which was fought in great parts as a war between horsemen, the Polish Ulans and hussars against the Russian cossacks, watch this video and you will see pictures that give you an idea of that little episode with much real drama and colour, it's near the end kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZPGZnWJqth9gK8 War sure is awful but it also gives some fantastic pictures that are hard to resist for the boy inside every man) PS: You sure know how to handle a sword, but the most impressive thing among the countless other highlights I remember seeing on this great channel, was when you tried out that Shillelagh. That was, like just, Wow!!! speachless!!!

[@joshuaspector8182]

cool video. I think i've seen spadroons before that i havent seen tested, but it had actually a pretty bendable blade. that particular one i think would thrust worse than this one here.

[@ArthurHerbst]

Hmm, with 1 kilo of weight its heavier than most sabres. The Problem with a lot of Spadroons was that they tried to make a cut and thrust weapon in the weight range of a Smallsword (~500 gram).

[@devongarrison5319]

how is this a response video if matt was talking about antiques

[@Thrand11]

Devon Garrison It is a response video about the cutting ability of Spadroons and I would say he is correct

[@nicg1883]

Great video.

[@Thrand11]

nicg1883 Thanks

[@tomsmyth5138]

A Viking with an American accent seem legit

[@Thrand11]

Why not we found America first :D

[@caveymoley]

wow, I cant figure out if that lady's accent is "southern belle" or austRAAAALian ;)

[@flashgordon3860]

caveymoley Steve Irwin

[@Thrand11]

caveymoley Kiwi Texan lol

[@proudtitanicdenier4300]

9:55 During the Crimean war there were accounts of spadroons bending and not piercing when thrusting against Russian coats.

[@badpossum440]

You cannot do that with my ..76 spadroon it is too light and i can flex it 7 inches out of straight.

[@TheSteelEcho666]

How do you think it would handle versus a sabre or heavier sword?

[@Thrand11]

Quit well do not think it would break if you parried.

[@proudtitanicdenier4300]

If you really wanted to know what a spadroon would have been like, use an antique.

[@augustuswayne9676]

Better than your bare hands !!!

[@FrogmortonHotchkiss]

Against armour, it looks like: centre of percussion for chopping, tip for slicing. This is a light blade that's never going to chop so well.

[@marianiurea6217]

What you have there to review is a poorly made replica. Originals that Matt is talking about have very different blade disign. Can not compare. What you got is a steel bar. No distal taper therefore blade is heavier and stiffer.

[@lorenr3276]

You really need a heavier sword for slashing a cavalry sabre or katana would go right through that but you can still slash at someone's face or neck or legs or thrust

[@lafiesta4257]

will have the brigandine armor test?